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My husband fed our VEGAN daughter with meat, and it made me furious! | Reddit Stories | EP3064 · ok storytime

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Keon.
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  Speaker 3: My husband fed our vegan daughter meat and it made
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  Speaker 3: me furious.
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  Speaker 2: How furious?
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  Speaker 3: My ex and I were vegan. I became vegan when
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  Speaker 3: we moved in together because he was vegan and he
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  Speaker 3: didn't like there being animal products in the house. I
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  Speaker 3: learned more about the way food was made and I agreed.
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  Speaker 3: I was vegan while I was pregnant and we've raised
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  Speaker 3: our daughter just turned eight, vegan for the past eight-ish years.
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  Speaker 3: We divorced 15 months ago. He was not faithful, but
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  Speaker 3: he was a terrible partner to me. He loves his
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  Speaker 3: daughter and during this time I've tried to be a
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  Speaker 3: good co-parent. Yesterday, I picked up my daughter from her
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  Speaker 3: dad's house. He wanted to keep her late because he
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  Speaker 3: and his partner were going to take the kids, she
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  Speaker 3: has three, to a matinee of Frozen. How old is
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  Speaker 3: this movie? How old is this post? And is it 2013?
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  Speaker 1: I'll look at that. But you know who this is?
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  Speaker 2: Who?
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  Speaker 3: Vegan police. So it's dinner time when I'm getting her.
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  Speaker 3: As we're driving home, she says she's hungry. I offered
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  Speaker 3: her my purse apple. I offered her my purse apple.
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  Speaker 2: Very normal. Purse apple.
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  Speaker 3: I should have packed better car snacks for the ride.
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  Speaker 3: But she spies the golden arches out the window. She
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  Speaker 3: has a full blown meltdown demanding chicken nuggets.
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  Speaker 4: Who told you that?
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  Speaker 3: I turn around. I go, who gave you those?
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  Speaker 2: Told you about the forbidden magic.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from Veggie Co-Parent, and if
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  Speaker 4: I'm Sophia.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Dakota.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Keon.
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  Speaker 3: And we're here to give good advice, Goofly, but we
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  Speaker 3: don't have all the answers. We only know what we'd do.
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  Speaker 3: So let us know what you would do in the
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  Speaker 3: comments and OP says.
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  Speaker 1: Also froze. Because I thought it was 2014 because it
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  Speaker 1: released at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 3: I remember Vividly was released because I did academic decathlon
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  Speaker 3: when I was in seventh grade. And there was a
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  Speaker 3: week where we just got to study in the library.
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  Speaker 3: But because I was an alternate, I didn't have to study.
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  Speaker 3: And I just watched Frozen and made pillow forts for
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  Speaker 3: a week. OP says, we get home and she's like
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  Speaker 3: blowing snot bubbles. She's so enraged.
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  Speaker 1: I hate when I do that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like.
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  Speaker 2: When a kid ever does this, don't give them what
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  Speaker 2: they want.
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  Speaker 1: No, sir. It's that scene from Blair Witch Project.
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  Speaker 4: Also, you can recreate.
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  Speaker 3: Very tasty. Well, they do have, well, okay, this is 2014.
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  Speaker 3: So it really doesn't matter what advice I give you
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  Speaker 3: because it's been a while. She howls her way through
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  Speaker 3: a bowl of leftover soup. Honestly, I think I was
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  Speaker 3: just being an ale at this point because we have
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  Speaker 3: chicken nuggets in the freezer I could have made. But
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  Speaker 3: rewarding that kind of tantrum seemed like bad parenting. Wait,
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  Speaker 3: are they like fake chicken?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Chicken, chicken, chicken.
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  Speaker 4: She hates me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a terrible mom. Dad would have let her eat
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  Speaker 3: chicken nuggets. She wore herself out crying.
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  Speaker 1: Dang.
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  Speaker 3: She was upset when she woke up this morning asking if.
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  Speaker 4: I hated her because she ate meat.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, obviously not. I spent the entire drive to school
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  Speaker 3: reassuring her that I'm not angry with her. but that
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  Speaker 3: I was surprised that she wanted them. I also reiterated
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't happy with her behavior of screaming and hollering
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  Speaker 3: when she didn't get what she wanted. I understand that
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  Speaker 3: sometimes our emotions feel big, but we have to try
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  Speaker 3: and be in control of them and not the other
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  Speaker 3: way around. Good parenting moment. But I am effing pissed
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  Speaker 3: because I wasn't aware our hitherto vegan daughter was now
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  Speaker 3: eating meat. And I feel like that's a decision that
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  Speaker 3: I should have been informed about. I called him after
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  Speaker 3: she went to bed and he told me I was
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  Speaker 3: being uptight. And he didn't tell me because he knew
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  Speaker 3: I'd overreact.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't he like the whole reason you were even vegan
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  Speaker 2: in the first place? Indeed he was.
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  Speaker 4: Indeed he was, Dakota.
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  Speaker 1: Once you were a vegan. Now you will be gone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, someone get the vegan police on this guy because
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  Speaker 3: your ex stinks.
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  Speaker 1: Got you.
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  Speaker 4: Freeze, vegan police.
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  Speaker 3: I'm controlling and I don't need to be privy to
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  Speaker 3: every single thing he does when our daughter is with him.
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  Speaker 3: I'm effing mad. There are vegan options at McDonald's. He
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  Speaker 3: didn't have to feed her chicken, but since he did,
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  Speaker 3: I would have appreciated a heads up.
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  Speaker 2: What are the vegan options at McDonald's? Apple slices?
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  Speaker 3: There's not really, especially in 2013.
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  Speaker 2: Dumbest thing I ever heard.
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  Speaker 1: That's not even vegan.
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  Speaker 3: Quick side thing. Recently, my boyfriend and some friends and
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  Speaker 3: I were looking up whether or not the Mickey D's
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  Speaker 3: fries were, because I always assumed they weren't vegetarian because
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  Speaker 3: I was told that they weren't. It is incredibly unclear.
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  Speaker 3: There is not one clear answer because they say that
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  Speaker 3: they use a beef flavoring, which is not meat. But
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  Speaker 3: then we did some more research and apparently they don't
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  Speaker 3: need to disclose if it's meat. And so there are
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  Speaker 3: only like two places in the world that are definitely vegetarian.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was like I think we talked about,
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  Speaker 3: I told you guys this about on stream, but like
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  Speaker 3: we could not find out whether or not they were vegetarian.
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  Speaker 3: So you know what, OP? I can't tell you what
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  Speaker 3: is vegetarian there. Also for a dude who gave me
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  Speaker 3: a hard time for craving Oreos, which are effing vegan
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  Speaker 3: while pregnant with her. Kind of annoyed that he's shoveling
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  Speaker 3: crap in her mouth, hand over fist, taking her to
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  Speaker 3: McDonald's every week. I'd always felt like when she became
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  Speaker 3: old enough to choose her diet, I'd let her make
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  Speaker 3: her own decisions. If she wanted to eat chicken nuggets,
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  Speaker 3: give her. But like, I feel wildly, wildly frustrated that
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  Speaker 3: he unilaterally made this choice. I feel like I should
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  Speaker 3: have been made aware. I try to keep him updated
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  Speaker 3: on her stuff when she's with me. Am I the a-hole?
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  Speaker 3: And we do have comments. But what do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Chicken isn't vegan.
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  Speaker 4: Chicken isn't vegan.
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  Speaker 3: That's, that's, yes. This is her daughter.
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  Speaker 4: She's like, wait, chicken isn't vegan? I made yours a
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  Speaker 4: little bit.
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  Speaker 3: The fact that he didn't tell you is pretty messed up.
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  Speaker 2: Yum.
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  Speaker 4: Especially when he was the one.
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  Speaker 3: He was the one who made you vegan.
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  Speaker 2: Just needed to be like, hey, just so you know,
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  Speaker 2: she's been eating meat.
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  Speaker 3: Also, I think it is important to tell, like, it
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  Speaker 3: seems as though OP is maybe leaning towards the healthier side.
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  Speaker 3: Because you can be necessarily, you know, you don't have
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  Speaker 3: to be necessarily healthy to be vegan. And it seems
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  Speaker 3: like she is leaning on the healthier side. So it's
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  Speaker 3: also a good parenting question to be like, hey, are
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  Speaker 3: we good with her going to these fast food places?
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  Speaker 3: You know, is that something we're fine with?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's less of a question really about should she
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  Speaker 2: still be vegan? It's just like, can she maybe not
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  Speaker 2: eat just McDonald's?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like how often are you taking her there? Common
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  Speaker 3: One says not the a-hole. Everyone seems very focused on
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  Speaker 3: the vegan thing, but I don't think that's what this
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  Speaker 3: is actually about. It seems like he encouraged you to
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  Speaker 3: participate in a certain lifestyle when you were together, vegan
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  Speaker 3: but also Oreo-less, so presumably he was very health-conscious, and
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  Speaker 3: then changed his mind. Which is fine, except the understanding
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  Speaker 3: was that you had both decided to raise your child
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  Speaker 3: the previous way, and he didn't inform you when that changed.
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  Speaker 3: It's about communicating with your co-parent. OP says he was
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  Speaker 3: super health-conscious. I get reamed out for buying non-organic bananas.
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  Speaker 3: It was awful while I was pregnant because he monitored
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  Speaker 3: literally everything I ate for the baby.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. It feels like this change is to spite you,
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  Speaker 3: which is so weird.
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  Speaker 1: I controlled her. I got her to do all of that.
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  Speaker 1: And now I can live the way I want to
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  Speaker 1: without her. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And this is why you don't trust vegans. No one
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  Speaker 2: with that amount of self-control can be trusted.
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  Speaker 4: Never trust them.
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  Speaker 3: I'm upset that he chose not to communicate this with me.
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  Speaker 3: I try to communicate openly with him about things she
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  Speaker 3: does with me during my days and tend to give
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  Speaker 3: him a brief two to three point summary when we
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  Speaker 3: do our exchanges.
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  Speaker 2: I.e.
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  Speaker 3: She had an upset tummy on Tuesday. She did well
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  Speaker 3: on her math test.
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  Speaker 4: She likes her new.
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  Speaker 3: Dance teacher, even if it's dumb stuff and he's out
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  Speaker 3: here in the streets giving her McNuggets and keeping it
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  Speaker 3: a secret.
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  Speaker 2: He's out here in the streets?
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  Speaker 3: He's out here on the streets.
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  Speaker 2: Slang and nuggets?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just got a whole bag of nuggets.
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  Speaker 4: He goes, nuggets.
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  Speaker 1: I got the illegal sauces. I got the old sauces
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  Speaker 1: that are expired.
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  Speaker 2: He's got the Moulin Szechuan sauce in his trench coat.
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  Speaker 3: He rolls up his sleeve. They're all taped to his arm.
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  Speaker 1: What are like some OG McDonald's items that they discontinued?
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to be honest. I can probably count on
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  Speaker 3: my fingers how many times I've been to McDonald's.
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  Speaker 2: The Treasure Planet Happy Meal toys.
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  Speaker 1: Fire.
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  Speaker 3: The Treasure Planet Happy Meal toys?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Pull that up.
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  Speaker 4: Pull that up. Oh, the little guy.
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  Speaker 1: The little guy shot water.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He like, you can squeeze it and it like squirt water.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I remember that. Like to this day.
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  Speaker 2: I had that.
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  Speaker 3: Common Two says, I'm confused. He was vegan first and
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  Speaker 3: you became vegan because he didn't like animal products in
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  Speaker 3: the house. Basically made you become vegan, at least in
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  Speaker 3: the home.
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't your daughter technically be an animal product?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you're not eating her.
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  Speaker 2: Came out of an animal.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you can't have her in the house.
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  Speaker 2: What about the breast milk?
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  Speaker 1: Are you calling Opie an animal?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're calling Opie an animal.
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  Speaker 2: We are. We're all animals.
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  Speaker 4: In many ways, yes.
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  Speaker 3: But yet, when you call and told him you would
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  Speaker 3: have liked to have been informed when your child started
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  Speaker 3: eating meat, he called you controlling? By the way, how
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  Speaker 3: old is your daughter that she had a snot bubble
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  Speaker 3: temper tantrum?
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  Speaker 1: Eight.
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  Speaker 3: OP says, honestly, we've been having some behavioral issues this fall.
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  Speaker 3: More creaky, more stubborn. I think it's a combination of
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  Speaker 3: a few factors. Her having tantrums is unusual, but they're
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  Speaker 3: usually triggered by being.
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  Speaker 4: Overtired or over sugared.
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  Speaker 3: Since his new partner moved in with her of three kids,
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  Speaker 3: she no longer has a bed to herself. and has
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  Speaker 3: to share with two other littles. That is not good.
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  Speaker 2: It's against the rules.
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  Speaker 3: I think that is against the rules. Or at least
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  Speaker 3: that's what she told me. I don't think she sleeps well.
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  Speaker 3: I would hope that you could go back to court
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  Speaker 3: and say, hey, my kid doesn't have her own bed.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: There is an update two years later. We are in 2015, people.
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  Speaker 3: It's time is flying by.
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  Speaker 2: They've switched to an all carnivore diet.
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  Speaker 3: We only eat meat now.
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  Speaker 1: We only eat liver.
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  Speaker 3: And we feel great. Besides all of my teeth falling out.
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  Speaker 2: Breakfast steak. Lunch steak. Dinner steak.
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  Speaker 3: Steak in the shape of an orange.
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  Speaker 1: Miss steak.
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  Speaker 3: But we got an update. So the kiddo experimented with
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  Speaker 3: meat some. We were actually kind of fortunate this happened
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  Speaker 3: before quarantine and lockdown. So this wasn't 2015. This was
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  Speaker 3: seemingly closer to 2020. What do you mean you saw
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  Speaker 3: a frozen matinee?
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  Speaker 1: Give it a re-release.
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  Speaker 3: Frozen 2. Why didn't you say Frozen 2? My whole
• 9:38
  Speaker 3: temporal idea is gone. Anyway, we were actually kind of
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  Speaker 3: fortunate this happened before quarantine and lockdowns because we could
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  Speaker 3: still visit my parents who are meat eaters and do
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  Speaker 3: cook that kind of food and give her some better
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  Speaker 3: options to choose from. She likes beef, but also really
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  Speaker 3: likes cows, favorite animal after cats at the moment, so
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  Speaker 3: decided she didn't want.
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  Speaker 2: To eat that.
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  Speaker 3: She didn't like fish, which didn't take me as a
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  Speaker 3: huge surprise because nine-year can be picky like that. But
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  Speaker 3: we got a little bit left to the story.
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  Speaker 4: Any final thoughts?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: I actually don't really know what you did. It seems
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  Speaker 3: like you just started introducing meat into her diet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Seems like there was no resolution that we know of
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  Speaker 3: yet about her sleeping stuff. My whole temper idea is gone.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to lightly batter and fry you in
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  Speaker 2: panko breadcrumbs.
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  Speaker 4: All gone.
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  Speaker 2: Can't do that anymore. It's 2018.
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  Speaker 3: The thing she likes the most is breakfast sausage. On Saturdays,
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  Speaker 3: we often go to a local cafe and pick up breakfast.
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: A new tradition we picked up last spring as a
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  Speaker 3: mental pick-me-up for during quarantine. If she's feeling like it,
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  Speaker 3: she'll occasionally order something with sausages. I tried cooking breakfast
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  Speaker 3: for her during our last lockdown, but it was not
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  Speaker 3: a success. And eggs, which makes huge sense because like
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  Speaker 3: vegan egg substitutes are crap. And grandma makes really good
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: scrambled eggs. Probably the food I miss the most. We
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: cook those together maybe once a week and she says
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: she's getting pretty good at it. We still eat primarily
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: plant-based because that's how I cook. And it's what's cheapest.
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  Speaker 3: Letting us have some nice luxuries like eating out on Saturdays.
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  Speaker 3: So that was the resolution of the meat thing. While
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: she's in my custody, we're happy.
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  Speaker 4: With the solution.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, we don't know how she is sleeping still. How
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  Speaker 3: is she sleeping?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe she outfed the other kids. She took the bed.
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  Speaker 2: They have the floor.
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  Speaker 3: She punted them out of the bed.
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  Speaker 2: Being vegan just makes you better than most people. It's true.
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  Speaker 1: Vegan powers.
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  Speaker 3: But folks, that's the end of that story. And we
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  Speaker 3: got another one coming right up.
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  Speaker 2: I went vegan with an ex-girlfriend of mine and all
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: her hair started falling out. Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Was that because you went vegan or?
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  Speaker 2: We did not share the vegan.
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  Speaker 4: Was anemic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. We weren't getting the nutrients.
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you do go vegan, you have to be
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  Speaker 3: pretty on top of it. You can't just not eat protein.
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  Speaker 3: But there's so many, especially today, there's so many options
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  Speaker 3: for vegan substitutes.
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, there are vegan substitute teachers. I gotta go to
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: the bathroom.
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: He's gotta go to the bathroom. I am pescatarian, actually.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: Mrs.
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  Speaker 3: Squatchy Ruin. But I eat a lot of, you know,
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: vegetarian meals. I've always cared a lot about the environment.
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: And I had a friend who, one of my close
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: friends still, who went vegetarian and then she later went
• 12:06
  Speaker 3: vegan and she was doing it for environmental reasons. And
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: so I was like, okay, I could try that. And
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: I went to a Catholic school. So I, for Lent,
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  Speaker 3: gave up meat on the weekdays and then I would
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  Speaker 3: eat like, I remember when I did that, I craved
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: meat so much on the weekends that I, like one
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  Speaker 3: time I made bacon and then I wrapped it in
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: an avocado and it was like this, it was really good.
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: I got this recipe somewhere, but it was like a
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: bacon wrapped avocado or something with like an egg. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. Point is, I just was really craving it.
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  Speaker 3: And then the next year for Lent, I gave it
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  Speaker 3: up entirely and then it was fine. Like I didn't
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: crave it at all. So if anyone ever wants to
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: drop meat from their diets, I suggest doing it slowly.
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  Speaker 3: And kind of building up to it because it was
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: really easy once I did that.
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  Speaker 1: I do eat meat, but if it ever comes to
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  Speaker 1: a protein, I would say 80% of the time it
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  Speaker 1: would be fish. The other 20% obviously like cool chicken
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: or beef. But if there's a fish option, I normally
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  Speaker 1: go with fish. Yeah, I like meat. I don't love
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  Speaker 1: meat kind of thing. But there's some people out there
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  Speaker 1: that are like love meat.
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  Speaker 3: People really love meat. I've just met so many people
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: who are like, I could never give that up.
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: Like, I need meat in every meal. I'm like, do you?
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: Or like, I'll make a vegetarian meal. They're like, oh,
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: where's the meat?
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: I'm like, right there.
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: Try it.
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: Try it. Don't knock it before you try it.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: I love veggies. I love fruits. I love all greens.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: I can definitely do that like a couple days, but
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: I like fish.
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I couldn't give up fish.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: I love fish.
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: I love fish.
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: My cousin's wedding exposed the lie we told for years
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: and my family blocked me.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: No! What do you guys think it was?
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: Santa Claus.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't care for the live action remake of Moana.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: He's not out of pocket and he's kind of correct.
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: I did not care for the Godfather.
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: What?
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't care. I, 20, female, started a huge misunderstanding
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: in my family over something that happened years ago. It
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: all started five years ago when I was 15 and
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: was staying in the countryside with my aunt and her
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: son for summer break. Your aunt and your cousin. Yes.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: For context, my aunt hates J with a G people.
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: Ah, for context, my aunt sucks.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: Not just that it's a sin in our religion, but
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: being anti-queer was also her entire personality.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: What?
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: Some people just are boring. They need something to fill
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: the void in their life.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: What's your personality? I hate.
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: Hatred.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: Who?
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: Insert here.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: Insert difference here.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: But they're not doing anything to affect you. They don't
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: bother you. I hate them. What you're telling me is
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: you're projecting something. Nope.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: I hate that too. I hate you.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: I feel like aunt might be J with a G.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: It wasn't just her. Everyone in that place despised J
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: with a G people.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: Crazy.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Now, at that time, I had a girlfriend. Let's call
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: her April. April was around my age and also came
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: from a very anti-queer parent background. And surprise, surprise, my cousin,
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: who was 18, Sam, also had a boyfriend. Sam and
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: I never told anyone about our relationships. However, as teenagers,
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: we wanted to spend time with our partners, but we
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: couldn't due to the anti-queer energy, so we decided to
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: troll everyone. I pretended Sam's boyfriend was my boyfriend, and
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: he pretended April was his girlfriend.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: Nice little swap route.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: It's like when you go to the psychics. You two
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: haven't been a couple for five years.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: I've never had this experience, but sure.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: People do it all the time.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: Never experience this, but I will take your word for it.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: You've never done it?
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Nope. Everyone believed this. So whenever I was out with April,
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, yo, that's my cousin's girl. By the way,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: this comes from a deleted user. If you want to
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: submit your own stories, go to the r slash OK
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Storytime subreddit. It's good OPS to say. The best part
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: was that when one of our partners stayed over, they
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: ended up sharing rooms with the person they were actually dating.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: For example, if I brought my boyfriend home and he
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: stayed the night, my aunt would make him share a
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: room with Sam.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: You've fallen right into my trap. My J-trap.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: My Jap.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: Ooh.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Trap. There it is.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: Fallen right into my gap.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Let's not call it that.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: It's better than the other one.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Likewise.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: J with a G.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Whenever Sam brought April home, she would be in my room.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: It's genius. I know. And nobody figured it out until
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: two days ago when my aunt called me and unleashed
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: a barrage of insults. She slurred me up and down.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Turns out Sam invited her to his wedding. He was
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: marrying that same guy from five years ago.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Why would you... Sam, why would you do that?
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: Like, give me a heads up.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Why are you inviting her to your wedding?
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like... Like, anti is her personality. Why invite her?
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Why would you let the cats out of the bag?
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: She accused me, turning her God-loving Christian son into a
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: sinful man. This couldn't be my fault, because Sam and
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: his boyfriend were already together before I arrived. Anyway, she
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: thinks I'm the one who turned her son cool, and
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: that it is because of me that Sam and his
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: boyfriend slept together, and then they became Jay with a G?
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's how that works. You got her.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, we already knew your aunt was dumb with
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: how she sees people.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Maybe we cut her off completely.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: So what does she think? It's like cooties?
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: It's cooties and it's catching season.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Remember, children, you're not J with a G until you
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: kiss the boy.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Wash your hands and make sure not to kiss any
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: people of the same gender, because that's how you prevent J.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: With a G.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I don't understand it. I'm sorry. After she hung up,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I started getting calls from my relatives, and all of
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: them insulted me. They blocked me on everything. Then after that,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: they called my mom and insulted her as well. My
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: mom was confused as to what was going on, so
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: she asked me what happened. I ended up telling her everything.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: I've never told her how I spent that summer before this.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: The thing that she focused on was that back when
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I was pretending Sam's boyfriend was my boyfriend, he was
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: 19 and I was 15.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: And everyone thought that was cool.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone's cool with that.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Everyone was cool with that?
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Everyone's cool with that, but.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Precarious age gaps?
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Cool with me.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Enter my gap.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Fell right into the gap. It's a big one. My
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: mom lost it when she found out my aunt was
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: actually okay with me dating someone who was way older
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: than me when I was 15, and that my aunt
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: didn't even bother to call and tell her about it.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: My mom started calling my relatives, screaming at them. Some
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: of them took my aunt's side, some of them took
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: my mom's side, and they're now arguing with each other
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: over the phone as I'm writing this down. Sam called
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: and apologized for the way his mom acted. He said
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: she's crazy, and that he had cut her off after
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: what happened. So am I the a-hole.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: In what way possible? Like, there's no realm where.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: You are not.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I'm just living my life. I'm loving who I love.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: My aunt's a super huge bigot. Hates people that like
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: the same gender. But am I the a-hole?
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you are. How dare you challenge your relatives backwards,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Cro-Magnum values.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: And also, OP, it seems like your mom is very
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: much on your side, which is awesome. So, you know,
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: take that as a good thing. because while a lot
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: of your family seems to be terrible, at least your
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: mom is on your side.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, the cool mom award goes to OP's mom.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Who's the coolest?
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Cooler than being cool, OP's mom.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Well, Katie Palin says, honestly, a four-year age gap is
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: a lot less mind-blowing than a 20-year age gap. Again,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: it's a minor and a 19-year-old.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: When it's 15 and 19, it might as well be
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: 10 years. It's just illegal. um actually the age of
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: consent laws and blah blah blah.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: It's usually 16 unless.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: We're unless you live in an extra cool place where
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: it's like 12 update a lot is going on my
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: aunt and two of my uncles showed up at our
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: house last night i have no idea how it happened
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: but she ended up reading this post and she asked
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: me to delete it immediately because people were being mean
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: to her in the comments.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: That's why the aunt asked yeah i hope they're mean
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: to you. You were mean to me.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Call her every slur she called you. Yeah. She didn't
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: like the way y'all were making fun of her.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Boo hoo.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: She said I was only telling my side of the
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: story and not the full picture.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: What's the full picture?
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Here it is, in her words. Oh boy. Me implanting
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: woke ideologies into her son's head whenever we were alone.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Isn't her son older than you?
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: You were 15 at the time.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: J with a G.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Hey. Me being a bad influence on him because I
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: didn't grow up religiously like the rest of them. And
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: me making him miss church services. He didn't go to
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: church one Sunday because I was sick and somebody had
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: to stay home with me.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you were sick with J with a G
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: and he caught it.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: He was sick with the devil's poison. And so on
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: and so forth. She said all that was what made
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: him like boys. She said that the comments were villainizing
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: her for no reason. And also that the comments saying
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: you can't turn somebody J with a G were all
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: wrong because Sam and I and everyone else did in
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: fact become J with a G because we were exposed
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: to the evils of the new world.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: And there it is, folks.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Delete the post. But, you know, here's more content for it.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: She went, yes, they can become J with a G
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: if you're exposed to it because I am.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: This is the kind of brainiac woman that like yearns
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: to like live in a time where they had no rights.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, she's just been so deeply brainwashed to hate
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: herself that she can only fathom one possible way forward.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: And that's to make everyone who is like her and
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: who is living proudly hate themselves, too.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I am a good woman. I'm a godly woman. I
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: don't vote.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: And I don't want to vote.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Why would I? I leave that to the men.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I'm going to vote. I'm going to use my right
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: to vote to take away everyone else's right to vote.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I like how she's pinning it on OP when, what
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: has she said to Sam, her son?
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: We're going to cure you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: to cure you. Watch this music video of Dua Lipa
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: for seven days.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: And then he's like, I've already seen that.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: He's just like, I know, Andy, she slays.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: She slays.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: She then started crying, and one of my uncles started
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: yelling at me for breaking the family apart. Mom ended
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: up threatening them that she was going to call the
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: cops if they didn't leave, and 30 minutes later, they
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: were gone. What made the situation worse is the fact
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: that my grandmother is on my side when she was
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: supposed to be on my aunt's side. Grandma even ended
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: up buying me a Lady Gaga album because she heard
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: that people in the LGBTQ community like Lady Gaga. I mean,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: she's not wrong. No, sir. I always think of that
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: video of that guy in Brazil just going, GAGA! Gaga! Gaga!
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Maybe you were born this way.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Like, for the love of, somebody give that guy a goo-goo, please.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: She also said it was fine if I can't have
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: kids because she had seven children and look how they
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: all turned out.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Damn, Grandma!
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Grandma's sassy.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Grandma is eating and leaving no crumbs.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Grandma kissed a girl and she liked it. Bet that
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: chapstick was cherry.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: And that's why all of her children are J with
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: a G.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Skips a generation. I know I shouldn't need anyone's opinion,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: but I have always loved my grandmother and her approval
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: means the world to me. Sam's fiance filed for a
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: restraining order against my uncle and my aunt, so it
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: looks like he's having it worse than me. And Sam's dad,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: my aunt's ex-husband, decided to involve himself in this chaos
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: by offering to pay for half of the wedding expenses.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, I'm gonna, I want to dive right
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: into this mess. I'll show my.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Support for the little J boys.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: It's a boy band.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: They play instruments.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: They're like a quartet from the 50s.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: They use their hands.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: We're the little J-Boys from Company Street.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I have a feeling that he probably just wants to
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: piss off my aunt even more since he has had
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: a very bad relationship with the family for a long
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: time and has taken every opportunity possible to get on
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: everyone's nerves. But it could just be me. So there
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: you have it. My mom, Sam, grandma, and another kind
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: aunt of mine are the only people from my family
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: who are on my side right now. That is the
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: end of that story. Yeah, throw all the bigots in
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: the river, dude.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Throw them in the river.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Throw all the bigots in the river of molasses.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: And they're stuck there.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Throw them in that Charlie and the Chocolate Factory river.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I'd like to see you eat your way out of this.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: River, you- Gustus Gloop.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Thick-skulled bigot.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they sound like they're all the worst, but it
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: sounds like you've got a lot of people on your side,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: which is awesome.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I see Auntie again. It's a- Right in the mouth.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: And now I'm like, now you're gay.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: And she goes, no, I can already feel it. I
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: can already feel it.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: No, all my memories of Princess Diana are changing.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: She was so cute.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: I'm actually realizing they're all the same.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: But that's the end of the story.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: That would be great. That's why she's so anti-LGBT is
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: because she had a crush on Princess Diana and when
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: she died, she couldn't handle it. So she like put
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: it in a box and put it away.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: No more, never again.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: It hurts too much to love.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: I refuse to fund my daughter's wedding because she's been
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: divorced three times already.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: The fourth time's the charm, guy.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: My male 57 daughter, 32, has already been divorced thrice.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: She got married at 25 to.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: The love of her life.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay. Seven year window getting divorced three times.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I guess it's better to do it in a smaller window, right?
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Like you don't want to get divorced three times over
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: like 30 years.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: No, that's kind of devastating. I gave her $ 15, 000 as
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: help for the wedding. Marriage lasted three years. She married
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: the love of her life when she was 30. I
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: gave her $ 5, 000 for a much smaller, more intimate wedding.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Marriage lasted one year.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing a pattern.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I am also seeing a pattern.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I think you needed to give your daughter $ 100, 000 and
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: then she would have been married for 12 years.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the problem here is you're just not
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: giving enough money.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: You're cheap.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: She married the guy that got her pregnant while she
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: was married to number two.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: They divorced before my grandson was one. You really made
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: a keeper. She's met the love of her life and
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: needs money for the wedding. I said I would help
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: her with the next one. Now she's crying to her mother,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: calling me.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: An a-hole for not believing in her future.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: I have managed to stay married for 33 years. It's
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: not that difficult. My wife wants me to make peace
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: by giving her some money, but I think it's a waste.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Here's $ 20.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Your call. Am I the a-hole for my bad attitude
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: towards my daughter's relationship? By the way, this comes from ComprehensiveNet1149.
• 26:25
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• 26:27
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• 26:29
  Speaker 3: have an edit. I have an idea, but what do
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: you guys think?
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you need to give her any money.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: It's a waste.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Here's 200 bucks.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Perfect idea. This is what you do. You look at her,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: you say, I will not be giving you any money
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: right now. If you can be married to this man
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: for X amount.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Forever.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Let's say, well, but like, let's give her a specific amount.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Let's say like five years, 10 years, X, you know,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: like she's only made it to three. Let's give her
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: an amount, whatever you think is fair. If you can
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: stay married to this man for that amount of years,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: I will make a contract.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I will give you a hundred dollars per year.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll give you a hundred. I'll give you like
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: X amount of money per year or even just like
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: this lump sum of money at the end of five years.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: But and then and then you say, yeah, and you
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: will get that money if you stay married to him.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: And there's stipulations in the contract. This is just an
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: MLB contract. Yeah, this is like, okay, this is how
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: baseball players do it. Once you reach this amount and
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: you do these, you know, milestones to the degree that
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: we agree on, you get the money.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think $ 1, 000 every year that you're married.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: No arguments, no threatening of divorce, none of that.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I can't see that going wrong.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Edit. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind here. I
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: feel that I insulted people when I said, it's not
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: that difficult. So I feel like I should explain what
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: I meant. Who was insulted?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: People who have difficult marriages.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: People who are in bad marriages and should leave them.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: I met my wife when she was married to a
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: guy I worked with. He passed away in an industrial accident.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: I saw it happen.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: After the funeral, we became friends. Three years later, we
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: realized we cared for each other. So we started dating.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: What does the industrial accident have to do with that?
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Just that that's how they.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: That you can find love in a hopeless accident?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I think you could have just been like, we met
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: at a funeral.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: We met at a funeral.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: For a work colleague.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: We have had our ups and downs and we've gone
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: for counseling when we went through a really rough patch.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: We work hard at being there for each other. My
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: wife is beautiful and probably had many opportunities to be unfaithful,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: but chose to stay with me and work on our marriage.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I saw all the young guys my age having fun
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: and partying when I was using my wages to pay
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: for my son's medical bills and such. I also chose
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: to stay and work on my marriage. I don't remember
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: who said it, but it applies in marriage as well.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: In war, everything is simple, but even the simplest things
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: are difficult. And the verdict is not the a-hole.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: And we do have an update.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Staying married for 33 years, not that hard. And then
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: also directly comparing marriage to war is an interesting vibe.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: I guess OP more meant, I don't know, because that
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: does sound hard. It does sound hard, but maybe OP
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: means it is hard and yet together it is possible.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I think at this point, he's probably pointing out the
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: fact that his daughter cheated on her husband and got
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: pregnant with another man who she also married. And then
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: that didn't work. Divorce.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, probably that.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: It's not that hard to stay loyal to your partner.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: But we got more.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: My daughter has been married three times. I love her,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: but she has just terrible taste in men.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: She's a smart girl.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: University educated. Good career. Then she turned 25 and decided
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: that crappy relationships were the way to go. I was
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: rude the last time she asked me for help with
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: her wedding. I was maybe a little salty because my
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: wife and I are supposed to be retired and enjoying life. Instead,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: we are raising my grandson while my daughter looks for
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: her soulmate. Oh, wait, so we're already on to.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: The next one.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: So we had a fourth guy didn't work.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: And another guy who was going to be number five
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: didn't happen.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Honey, you can't be finding the love of your life
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: multiple times like this.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe every day she wakes up, it's a brand
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: new life, you know?
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: It's a brand new day. It's a brand new love. Yeah.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I said it didn't count because she never married the
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: last guy. She's not furious with me for tricking her
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: into thinking she could have a nice wedding again. I'm
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: just done. I want her to meet a good man
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: and settle down. She does not need to marry everyone
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: she falls in love with, in my opinion. Actually, what
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: she should do is forget guys and come be a
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: good mother to my grandson.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Dang.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: And that's the end of the story.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Dang.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Maybe you should be a mom.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we shouldn't be raising your child.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: It sounds like she's pretty like out of control. I
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: don't know, just is self, I don't know, sabotaging in
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: her relationships.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe she should just be a nun.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Ames in space says she needs some therapy to figure
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: it out.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Can't she just like reuse her wedding dress and like... Yeah,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: you would think. Why do I need to pay for
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: your weddings to have a good time?
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: I just don't know.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Permanent pastor I have on call just in case, you know,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: anything happens.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: You do?
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Just in case I find the love of my life again.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: She's ready to marry at any time.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Did you really think for one second I have a
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: pastor on call?
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: No, I was really confused.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: I was like, what?
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: I have a pastor on call. It's Chad GPT. I
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: have a.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Pastor on call just in case I'm feeling religious in
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: that moment.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: You are a Southern Baptist reverend and I need your
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: advice on how to stay in the Lord's light. Okay, go.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Get as serious with it as possible. Go. Hey, it's Dakota,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: your favorite rat brain host here. And we're going to
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: get back to the stories soon. But here's three minutes
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• 31:34
  Speaker 2: so I compared her to her bullies.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: You're a freaking bully.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: In high school, my 28th female sister, Madeline, spelled very frustratingly,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: now 33, was severely bullied. This popular girl, Stacy, accused
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Madeline of trying to steal her boyfriend. Stacy started rumors
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: about Madeline, and Madeline's former friends turned on her. Stacy
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: and the other bullies made her life an absolute nightmare,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: and the bullying became so widespread that Madeline had to
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: transfer schools. Madeline is doing well now. She has a
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: loving husband and two beautiful daughters, but those bullies had
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: destroyed her self-esteem for a long time. Even with therapy,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: she was only able to start recovering a few years
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: into college, and the things those kids said and did
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: to her still impact her. Madeline and I have a sister-in-law, Betty,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: who is 32. She and my brother Elliot had two
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: children together, Adrienne, 5, and Elijah, 3. Sadly, Elliot passed
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: away two years ago. Betty works full-time, but she spends
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: just about all of her free time with her children.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: And if she ever splurges, it's for them. Last time
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: she treated herself was several months ago when I booked
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: her a spa appointment for her birthday. Betty is a
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: wonderful mother. However, Madeline has become very critical of Betty
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: for working full time and not remarrying.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: She doesn't have time. You think that you just get
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: to remarry? Like it's a roll of the dice and
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: then you're married? This isn't the game of life.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: It's true.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: You have to date someone for a while. Sometimes they
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: don't want to date you back.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: By the way, this story comes from backgroundtell2243. If you
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: want to submit your own stories, go to the r
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: slash OKStoryTime subreddit and OP says, She has made increasingly
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: worse comments, but it came to a head a few
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: days ago. Betty and I were talking about how Adrienne
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: and Elijah loved their daycare center, and Madeline started to
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: push Betty about when she was planning to remarry so
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: she could start staying home. Madeline raised her voice and
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: called Betty selfish for not being ready to remarry and
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: for not wanting to be a stay-at-home mom. Madeline said
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: she needs to get the kids a father figure because
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: otherwise Adrienne will end up dating a guy who treats
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: her terribly and Elijah may become one of those bad men.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: And she said that a mother's first priority should be
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: her children and not some job.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: So she's stupid?
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Did the rocks in your brain fall out of your ears?
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I think you gotta like five-year-old explain that. I think
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: you gotta be like, hi, so why do you think
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: she has the job? And she goes, well, she's making money.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: What did she use the money for? You go, well,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I think she used the money to support her kids.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: She's not a husband.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: How?
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: How? Why? Huh?
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: It's, uh, is it Joey learning French?
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: From friends? Yeah.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Betty and I kept trying to de-escalate, but then Madeline
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: attacked Betty's outfit and her weight gain. Betty gained a
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: small amount of weight after Elliot's passing, but she's still
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: absolutely beautiful. Madeline called Betty selfish for not maintaining her
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: appearance so she could find a new husband.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Oh, she sounds like a real delight.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I'm slashing your tires.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: She mad, Aline. I snapped at Madeline that her attitude
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: is ugly and that right now she's being just like
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Stacy and the other bullies who made her life terrible
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: in high school. Madeline screamed at us and I saw
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: tears in her eyes before she left.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: That's all it took for her to break down? Like
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: she can dish it out like that?
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Well, she sucks.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: But the fact that you just like you're acting like
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: the bullies that bullied you and she went.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: I hope I hope she takes a minute and actually
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: thinks about that. I hope she goes home and she
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: cries and she goes, no, no.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: And then she goes, really?
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: No, really?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I already know she's like, you're just jealous of me.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Maybe she's just like really misinformed. And some for some
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: reason she thinks she thinks Betty just like left. Her husband?
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Maybe she just hasn't been around for years. She missed
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: that whole saga.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: My mother told me that I messed up majorly with
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: what I told Madeline. Mom said that while Madeline phrased
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: it in a bad way, and she would talk to
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: her about it later, Madeline's statements were out of love
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: and genuine concern for her niece and nephew.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Shut up.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: She said I was beyond cruel and had no right
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: to compare Madeline to her high school bullies, especially when
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: I remembered how Madeline would come home sobbing because of
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: the bullying and how her self-esteem was destroyed for years after.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Now I'm worried that I went too far with what
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I said. Was I? Am I the a-hole? There's an update.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: No, you are not. But I do think that we
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: can go to Madeline and say, hey, I'm sorry if
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: you felt hurt by what I said, but I needed
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: you to realize what you were doing to this girl,
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: what you were doing to Betty.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: And you just be like, hey, why don't you set
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: me up with a hot date, Mads? I need a man.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Where do I buy one?
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Changing your name from Madeline with Mandolin.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Mandolin. Yeah, I'm just I'm like, maybe you could come
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: in with a little understanding. Not because she is not
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: in the wrong because she is fully in the wrong.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: But I'm like, maybe so she tells you why she's
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: acting like this. But you're not in the wrong. You're
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: not the a-hole at all for what you said. And
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: she deserved to hear that. Wipe that from your face.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Wipe that mandolin from your face.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: There's an update. A lot of you have been suggesting
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: that Madeline was secretly the high school bully. Madeline.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Sam.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: You set me up, dude. Oh, my God.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Samwise.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: It's Sam.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Samwise.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: I just came back.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: Well, not really.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, really.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess, yeah, this morning.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: He had just come back.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then I slept for like a couple hours
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: and I was doing work. He slept until he's back
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: on American time.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Well, I think I'm worse now. Yeah, probably. Because of
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: having slept.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not a good move. It's one of our first
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: merch items ever, says Cancel Karen. Sick. Cancel Karen.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: The first merch item.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the first Merce items ever. But I'll
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: let you guys get back to it. I love you.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Nice hat.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: A lot of you have been suggesting that Madeline was
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: secretly the high school bully and that she only pretended
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: to be a victim. Everyone's real smart in this Reddit
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: thread today. I want to clarify that while bullies pretending
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: to be victims has happened in many other situations, it's
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: absolutely not true for Madeline. Madeline was always a nice,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: friendly kid, especially with her friends. If anything, her friends
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: were the ones who came off as the shallow, drama-loving
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: types to me. Stacey and the other kids undoubtedly bullied Madeline,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: and they did things like destroy Madeline's backpack and pour
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: garbage water all over her hair.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: What high school did you go to? The one from Carrie, apparently.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: You pour garbage water on my hair in high school?
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I hope you're ready for an inevitable RKO out of nowhere.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Slashing tires and RKO.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: The head blows up.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I'm elbow dropping you through the lunch table.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Watch out, watch out, don't watch out.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: It's when I get all the powers and everyone starts
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: being unlived.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: They slipped notes into her locker, calling her ugly and
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: stupid and worthless.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: What did this girl do?
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: Nah, apparently people would be terrible.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I remember they followed Madeline home once and insulted her
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: until our neighbors stepped in and scared them away.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: There's no, there's, she had to do something. Nah. Just
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: living your day-to-day life.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: I know people who were really bullied just because they
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: were a little different.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: She was probably just a.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Little like weird or a little bit like awkward and
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: they were terrible.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: That is crazy.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I'm glad I didn't get bullied like that in high
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: school because I would have gone to jail. I think
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: what is most likely going on is that because Madeline
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: had so many awful experiences with the bullies and was
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: their victim for so long, she can't see herself as
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: being like them. Betty talked about how when she was
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: on maternity leave, she felt bad about not working and
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: making Elliot, in her words, earn everything. I think Madeline
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: probably feels something similar and is subconsciously projecting it onto Betty.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Madeline is still upset and is not talking to me
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: at the moment. I'm going to wait until Madeline has
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: had time to reflect and is ready to talk again.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Then I will try to talk to her about these
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: feelings and about the possibility of her returning to therapy.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: I wanted to thank everyone for their thoughtful words and advice.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: And dash to end of dash story.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: I think Madeline needed to hear that. But I also
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: think it would be good for you.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: To have a conversation with her. Yeah, I think Madeline
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: played herself.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: I think you're gonna love this one, Sophia.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Played herself like a mandolin.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's not up yet. Okay, I literally put a
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: note in this episode that said, I have to be
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: here for this story.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: So I'm glad that I'm here for this story.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: She's here for this story. Not only is she here
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: for this story, she's going to read it.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I'm going to read the story.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: And we're all wearing blue.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: We're all wearing blue.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: The best day ever, guys. This is my favorite day.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: I expose my daughter's biggest secret and she may never
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: trust me again.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how that works, genius.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: My daughter is 13 and very introverted. I love her
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: and she's the funniest, smartest person I know, but she
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: doesn't doesn't have very good social skills. She has severe
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: anxiety and has struggled with clinical depression since she was nine.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: She's my only child. Our family is moving between states
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: at the moment, and we're currently staying at a friend's
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: house for a month. This whole summer, she's been very
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: distracted by her phone. She's always been an avid reader,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: and when we asked what she was doing all the time,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: she said she was just reading stories online. We assumed
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: it was ebooks or something.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Oh no.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: We noticed she went over the data limit for the month.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: So her father asked her for the phone and the password,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: and she said no to giving us the password, but
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: agreed to turn the phone off for the rest of
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: the month to avoid going over more.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Called Wi-Fi.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: I don't understand how she's going over the data limit.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Or saving the stories before.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: She might be saving the stories. Good, good guess.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, oh, you mean to.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Before you like, yeah, use the data or anything like that.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: It's no more than unless she's not on Wi-Fi. It's
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: no more than just looking up something on Google.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: We were understandably concerned. She's normally very complacent, respectful, and
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: not at all defensive about her phone. So we threatened
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: to take it away entirely until she told us.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: She did.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: After a screaming, sobbing fit, the likes of which I
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: haven't seen since she was a toddler. When we opened it,
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: we found tons of very adult fan fiction. She's never
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: shown any interest in that sort of thing before. And
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: all of it was about two male characters from a
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: TV show we knew she loved, though we didn't know
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: how much. There was fan art too. Not all of
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: it was explicit, and some of it just seemed like
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: plain old creative writing, but I went through all of
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: it in front of her. My nightmare.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Ooh, and then the depression.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from throwaway4356993232, and if you
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: want to submit your own stories, go to the r
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: slash okay story time subreddit.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: What was I being exposed to at 13?
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: So she's 13 right now.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: So let's say she's 5th, 6th grade.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: She's 13 right now.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: The year is 2008. What are we seeing on the internet, dude?
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I'm... Let's just put this in perspective.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Like the Philosoraptor memes, like all the OG, like bad
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: luck Brian memes, and then also like beheading videos.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: And the hangovers in theaters.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: I will say, so this is probably, she's probably in
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: sixth grade.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: That is not the right math for 13. Probably in seventh.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: She could be in seventh or eighth, probably.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Maybe sixth.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: She could be in sixth or seventh.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: You were so strong about that.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: She could be an older or young. She could be
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: an older or young one.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: She could be in ninth grade.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: She could have been held back.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: She could be.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: She might be in third grade.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: We don't know. I was 14.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I was 15.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: You were 15 in third grade?
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, because you were.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I got held back.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Because he's Filipino.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's just say she's seventh grade. Let's just like
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: split the difference. Seventh grade.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Let's say she's 13.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: I was already reading fan fiction in seventh grade. I
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: probably had read some inappropriate fan fiction.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: And you liked it.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: I didn't. I will say I self-censored. So I wasn't
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: really like if I did read it, I would be like, no,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: I can't read this. I'm not allowed.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Liar.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: You're like, let me go over page.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: I was like, no, this is like inappropriate. I was very,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: I was very strict to myself for some reason. But
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: all of my friends were reading like after, which is
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: the Harry Styles one. It's like very explicit. And I
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: remember my friend, I was like, oh, should I read that?
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: And she's like, no, it's inappropriate for you.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: Like we're the same age.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: So my point is, this is pretty normal. She said
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: she wasn't using it that way, that she was just
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: curious and found it interesting. I said I was going
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: to start getting into that community too. So I could
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: understand it and she could talk about with me. That's
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: actually terrible and also really nice.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, read the next sentence.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: But she seemed very opposed to that idea.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Of course she did.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: If any of my parents were like, what are you
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: into these days? Or like, what's going on? And let's
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: just see what's going on in the brain of a teenager.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I'd go, don't do that. Don't do that.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: She begged me not to talk about it more with
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: her father since they have a weird, cold relationship. Unfortunately,
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: and I didn't in front of her. But we find
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: this very concerning given what I know about her lack
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: of social skills. I couldn't help but feel this wasn't helping.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: So I deleted all of what she had saved as
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: well as the pictures. I don't care that it was
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: J with a G in nature. I've been pretty sure
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: since she was six that she's into girls. But this
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: can't be normal and healthy. I'm going to tell you
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: right now, it is normal and healthy. Maybe not healthy,
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: but it's normal. It's so normal. On the spectrum of
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: terrible things that you can be exposed to, this is
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: probably on the better end.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: The impulse to immediately just delete it all.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: You can't delete it.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: It's like, what do you think that's just going to
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: make her go? Okay, I won't like that. It's like,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: what if she started like dressing in a way you
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: didn't like? Would you just burn all of the clothes
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: you didn't like her wearing?
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: She saved it for a reason or she's interested in it.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: It's in here.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: It's in the brain.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: She's 13 years old. She's interested. She's probably trying to
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: learn more about her body, about other things. She might
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: not go to a school where they talk a lot
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: about that. Maybe you need to talk to her a
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: little bit more about that stuff.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Tell her about how much she should be ashamed
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: of her body.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: I took her phone for a week, removed the password,
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: and when we see her reading things now, we always
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: ask her specifically to tell us what it is.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know what? She's gonna love that.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I remember being a child and being
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: asked what I was reading and then I had to
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: make up a title. And I wasn't even reading the
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: inappropriate stuff. I just was ashamed to read fanfiction. She
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: seems to have stopped. No, she didn't. She stopped in
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: front of you.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: The thing is, like, you don't need an app. You
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: just need a website. So there is almost like, unless
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: you are tracking the searches.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: You need a website and an imagination... Put.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Her in that hole in the basement. Yeah. There's no
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: reception down there.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: I told some of my girlfriends about it and they
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: said I was being controlling and insensitive and that telling
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: them about it was humiliating for her.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: They kind of really.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: They kind of cooked with that.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: They put you on the grill with that one.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: She doesn't know I told them, so it can't be humiliating.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just like if your husband cheats on you and
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: never tells you, it can't ruin your marriage.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, wait.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, does that logic not make sense anymore, genius?
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: And I just want what's best for her. Am I
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: the a-hole?
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: The edit immediately saying, after reading.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: The comments, I'm assuming everyone.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Hey, Keon here.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: We're going to get back to the stories, but here's
• 45:59
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• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, but you came to Reddit and Reddit users are absolutely- Cutthroat.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: The Reddit user, like the Venn diagram of Reddit users
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: who also read fan fiction is like this much. Like
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: a tiny little crossover that isn't fan fiction users.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Teeny tiny.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: OP, you're coming from a place of love and care
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: and fear. But it's okay.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: All I want OP to do is just think a
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: little bit.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what did you get up to when you were 13?
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and did you want to do every little thing
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: that you were doing with your friends or what you
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: were doing in your personal life and you wanted to
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: converse that with your parents?
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Were your friends talking about inappropriate things or like bodily
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: things when you were 13?
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Probably. Probably.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: It does more than just pee.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Having gone to a Catholic school, fan fiction was the
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: only way that I learned any spicy ed.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, going to a Catholic school.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: They don't teach you anything.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: It was intense.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't even think it's out of pocket to
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: say based on, like, OP's actions in this story. Like,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: I think the reason your daughter had clinical depression at
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: age nine might kind of be entirely on you.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: A little bit.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: I think you might be the one responsible actually entirely
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: for you and your husband with his weird cold shouldering
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: of his daughter might just be entirely responsible for her
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: social inadequacies and clinical diagnoses.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: I am wondering if every time something like this happened,
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Opie put her on blast.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Probably told other friends and then also made a reddit
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: post about hey ming ming is like all caps you
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: told the whole internet op what is wrong with.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: You edit after reading the comments it's clear that i've
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: messed this up horrendously i'm not gonna blame anyone else
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: but me for this i have always tried to make
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: an environment for my daughter where she's aware of things
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: and comfortable talking to me. But I've just shot myself
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: in the foot. I never meant for her to run
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: in the other direction, and that's what I've done. I
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: should have respected her right to privacy more than I did.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Some of you pointed out that this is similar to
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: the romance novel sold in every supermarket, which I hadn't considered,
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: and which makes this much clearer to me. To clarify,
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: if she came out to me, I would of course
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: be supportive. If she ends up being straight, I'll obviously
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: respect that.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Ha!
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: In my head, my brain finished that as, I'll obviously
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: be disappointed.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: I'll obviously be disappointed. I also didn't realize there's a
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: community there that she may have become attached to. I mean,
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: huge communities surrounding these IPs and these shows and stuff
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: that she's watching, I'm sure. And I don't want to
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: ruin whatever social interactions she has. I'll talk to her
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: tomorrow face to face and try to repair what I can.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: I never should have told her father. I just thought
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: he should know as her other parent. I definitely never
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: should have told my friends. She's like, and I also
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: shouldn't have told my boss. And also I shouldn't have
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: told her teachers. And I really shouldn't have told her friends.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: And I also shouldn't have told my dentist. And I
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: own that.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Not the dentist.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: Edit part two. Just to clarify, no screaming or over
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: the head scolding was involved. I didn't tell her she
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: was gross or strange, just that she's been spending too
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: much time on it and that I was concerned she
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: wasn't focusing on other things like the upcoming school year
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: and talking to our hosts. I expressed concern that it
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: was stopping her from trying to make friends in real
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: life and that some of the things she was reading
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: might not be the healthiest in terms of relationship dynamics.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: She's like, I really don't like the way the vampire
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: treats the rest, the characters in this fictional tale. Seems
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: a little problematic.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: And the best way that you can tell her what
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: is healthy is to make her comfortable enough to come
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: tell you what she's reading. Because if you make her
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: comfortable and you say, hey, like, oh, what are you
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: reading now? Oh, that sounds so interesting. Oh, that's a
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: really cool thing. And then she goes, oh, my God,
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: I'm reading this one where like an old vampire is
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: in love with a young girl. And you're like, OK, well,
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: let me explain something about that.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Would you like to watch Nosferatu 2024?
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: I absolutely concede that I was in the wrong and
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: that my deletions and helicoptering would make her feel ashamed.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: But for context, that's what happened there. If I could
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: go back and not mention my suspicions about her identity,
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: I would. My sister was outed by my ultra religious
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: parents when we were teenagers and it left her with
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: lifelong scars. I never want that to be the case here.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter to me how she identifies. She's my
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: daughter and I love her more than anything. Also, I
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: meant fandom things, not the adult side of it when
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: I offer to get involved. like expos and conventions. I
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: think I honestly thought that was really sweet for OP
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: to be like, hey, I would love to take you
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: to like Comic-Con.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, God, that's got to be like the last thing
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: you want to hear. Like, no, God, it's my fun
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: thing that I like. That's cool. You can't do it.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: You can't like it too.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna like it too. I'm gonna start reading fan fiction.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: I did not phrase that at all well.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: Update.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Today I sat her down and we talked this over.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: I explained why I reacted the way I did, my
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: concerns about safety and isolation, why that was wrong, and
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: why nothing she'd done was wrong. I apologize profusely and
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: her father will do the same later. And I promise
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: to respect her privacy more going forward. We've got a
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: little bit left. What have we learned? What do you think?
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: I still don't know if OP's really learned that you
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: can't do things that will make your sensitive daughter feel
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: deep shame about the things that she likes.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, we don't know. We can only know, you know,
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: like year by year updates.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: You're like, oh, well, I did it just because I
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: was worried for your safety and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: And it's like, yeah, but also where's the you're allowed
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: to like that stuff. Where is the there's nothing wrong
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: with that.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Well, she said that nothing she'd done was wrong. She
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: was very emotional and explained part of why she had
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: been so into that community. She's like seeing more representation
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: of LGBTQ relationships and talking to other LGBTQ youth. She
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: came out to me.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: Well, OP clock that.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: She asked me to not tell her father until she's ready,
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: and of course, I won't.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: Keep that promise.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Lesson learned. Though some trust has been lost, I think
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: we're going to be okay with some hard work on
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: my part. She's going to join our local support group
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: for queer youth, and I'm fully on board. We've discussed
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: implementing some of the suggestions commenters have given, and we're
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: excited about them. Thank you to everyone who commented and
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: called me on my nonsense, because I desperately needed it.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: And that's the end of the story.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: You're welcome.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: You're welcome.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: Yay!
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: What can I say except you're welcome.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: She's going to tell all her friends that her daughter
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: likes girls.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: She's going to say, guess what, Autumn, everyone, my daughter's
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: J with a G.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: She said, all you said was not to tell your dad.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: What, are you showing up?
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: I done told everybody from here to Saskatoon. Except your daddy.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: That wasn't part of the agreement. If I don't tell
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: your dad, I have to tell everyone from here to Saskatoon.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: And we've got comments from the video My Husband Wants
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: to Name Our Son After a Serial Killer. And we've
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: got a TLDR from Story 1. Opie and her husband
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: are expecting their first child after a decade of struggling
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: with infertility. So this baby means everything to them. Her
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: husband's beloved grandfather passed away last week, and grieving hard,
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: he suggested honoring him by naming the baby after him.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: Theodore for a boy, Theodora for a girl, with the
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: nickname Teddy. Sweet idea, except for one huge problem. Their
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: last name is Bundy.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Opie tried to gently explain that naming their kid Teddy
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Bundy would set them up for a lifetime of ridicule,
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: but her husband refused to see it and became convinced
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: she just hated his grandmother. If you're curious to know
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: the full story, you can go watch the full video.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: I think he was just like, well, we can change
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: that to be better.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: The stigma around it can be changed.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Once our child becomes president, President Bundy will set the
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: record straight.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: But we have some comments. Gosh, that is ridiculous.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe make it the middle name.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know. He's got name recognition. He could go
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: for the oval, dude.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Chris Through Glass says he wants to make his kid's
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: life very hard just to honor a passed away grandpa
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: who doesn't know about this honor.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: And also didn't like his own name.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: That's just very selfish. He's not doing it for the grandpa.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: He's doing it for himself. I'm glad he came around.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, Gramps is gone. It's
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: not really going to change anything for him, you know?
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: The only person who has to deal with the name.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: Is the kid.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Another commenter here, NattyAR4638 says, This will be years of
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  Speaker 1: therapy for the kid. All the bullying, plus trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure out why his parents hated him so much that
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: they named him after a serial unaliver. And it's not
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  Speaker 1: that he can change it. That would upset his father.
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  Speaker 1: Everything official of his will be addressed with T. Bundy
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  Speaker 1: every time he has an appointment. He will hear the
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  Speaker 1: same jokes. For a second, I thought you were here
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: to unalive me. If he became a scientist and published papers,
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  Speaker 1: everyone would first think of his name and only after
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  Speaker 1: what he accomplished. Which, that's only if.
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  Speaker 3: It's true.
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  Speaker 2: I think that would be pretty funny.
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  Speaker 3: It would be funny, but it would be traumatic for him.
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  Speaker 2: Would it?
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: But it would be funny.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm only saying that as a fully formed adult
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  Speaker 2: and not as an 11-year-old.
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  Speaker 1: Well, here we go. Comment three, which is two commenters.
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  Speaker 1: The first comment is from The Consumer Final Boss.
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  Speaker 2: Scary.
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  Speaker 1: Saying,' Eh, that dude passed away nearly 40 years ago,
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  Speaker 1: and by the time the kid gets of an age,
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  Speaker 1: he'll even be longer. It's not all that serious.
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  Speaker 3: I got to disagree with you there, but that's all right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of people don't even know who
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Ted Bundy is.
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  Speaker 1: The commenter replies to that. Uwu Sioki, 41, 23, says,
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  Speaker 1: Ted Bundy has become a case study. It will be
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: a name that will always stick around in education and entertainment.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the psychologist Sigmund Freud.
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  Speaker 3: True.
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  Speaker 1: He died in 1945, and we all hear his name
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  Speaker 1: going around. It's a lot like other names. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: There's one that comes to mind.
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  Speaker 2: Who's that guy in Germany?
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  Speaker 3: That guy in Germany.
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  Speaker 1: What would that guy in Germany do?
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  Speaker 2: Some guy in Germany. I think he built the Autobahn.
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  Speaker 3: It's been years.
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  Speaker 2: He built the Autobahn and anything else.
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  Speaker 3: That's the end of those comments and the end of
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  Speaker 3: this episode. So if you love us, make sure to subscribe.
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