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- 0:00Speaker 1: Great Crooks.
- 0:00Speaker 2: Good morning everyone, Good morning, it's some time. Good morning
- 0:04Speaker 2: class ladies and gentlemen.
- 0:07Speaker 3: Hold introducing six one guard from Brighton, Illinois and former
- 0:14Speaker 3: high school basketball stand What the hell does that mean?
- 0:18Speaker 2: Jumped any conclusions? Not a god, You've got to lower
- 0:22Speaker 2: lower your expectations.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Hard to believe.
- 0:24Speaker 3: We could once send a fastball to Pluto getting some
- 0:27Speaker 3: Bucky Jacobson vibes and former.
- 0:30Speaker 4: I'll just openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped
- 0:33Speaker 4: X athlete.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
- 0:36Speaker 3: Five seven guard and a former college water polo national champions.
- 0:41Speaker 2: A lot of useless crap up here.
- 0:42Speaker 3: Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
- 0:47Speaker 3: Ashley Ryan Buck to you buy to Latok Casino Resort
- 0:51Speaker 3: and quill see the Creek Draftking sportsbook where the action
- 0:54Speaker 3: never stopped.
- 0:56Speaker 5: There you go, Hey, good morning and welcome into the
- 1:14Speaker 5: radio show. It is Chucking them back in the Morning
- 1:16Speaker 5: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Here on this Wednesday.
- 1:21Speaker 6: Home day, which is normally magical in its own right. Yes,
- 1:26Speaker 6: it is the time where we typically start the preview
- 1:30Speaker 6: of the next Sea Hawk game.
- 1:33Speaker 2: But today when man we're two three days into this already.
- 1:37Speaker 6: Hell, I was into it right as I was watching
- 1:39Speaker 6: Philip Rivers walk onto the field Sunday, I was already
- 1:42Speaker 6: into it. So we are way into our Rams Seahawks
- 1:47Speaker 6: preview and now here we find ourselves on the eve
- 1:49Speaker 6: of the game of the Year, and so we will
- 1:52Speaker 6: be discussing it quite a bit here on the radio program.
- 1:55Speaker 6: As you might expect, Greg Bell will be with us
- 1:58Speaker 6: a couple of other surprises that we'll out for you
- 2:00Speaker 6: with what's on tap, and so certainly that'll be the
- 2:03Speaker 6: driving force behind this hump day edition of Chuck and
- 2:06Speaker 6: Buck in the Mornings.
- 2:07Speaker 2: But we have to.
- 2:08Speaker 6: Start just quickly before we dive into some of this
- 2:11Speaker 6: Seahawks analysis of this game. We've got a champion in
- 2:15Speaker 6: our midst She's won another crown, So hang another banner
- 2:19Speaker 6: at the five Iron household.
- 2:21Speaker 7: How's that?
- 2:22Speaker 6: Well, she's water polo champion, as I know that, Yepen mentions.
- 2:27Speaker 6: And now she's also a cart champion.
- 2:32Speaker 7: A decorated carving cart.
- 2:34Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so congratulations.
- 2:36Speaker 8: Thank you.
- 2:36Speaker 2: This one might mean more.
- 2:38Speaker 9: I mean, we've been doing this for years and we
- 2:41Speaker 9: go all out and decorate our cart and.
- 2:43Speaker 2: And when you say years, how long like four years? Okay,
- 2:47Speaker 2: part five years. We do it, and you know, everybody
- 2:49Speaker 2: goes up.
- 2:49Speaker 9: They have a big open house and then there's a
- 2:51Speaker 9: parade and everyone judges the cards.
- 2:53Speaker 10: Then we go around the neighborhoods. So it's a blast.
- 2:55Speaker 7: Okay.
- 2:56Speaker 9: And yesterday I just had a feeling it felt different.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Uh huh, it felt different. It felt different, and uh,
- 3:04Speaker 2: you woke up feeling dangerous.
- 3:06Speaker 9: We did Mayfield were Russell Wilson with a subway sandwich.
- 3:11Speaker 10: Okay, yeah, and uh and and I it felt different
- 3:15Speaker 10: for a reason because.
- 3:16Speaker 2: When we walked up there, I knew we were going
- 3:18Speaker 2: to dominate. I knew it.
- 3:20Speaker 9: We got out of our cart, we walked in and
- 3:21Speaker 9: I was like, this is our year, this is our year.
- 3:26Speaker 9: We did the parade, we got the the prizes were
- 3:30Speaker 9: handed out or laid out, and they said, and our winners,
- 3:33Speaker 9: we have a first place tie.
- 3:35Speaker 7: Oh oh.
- 3:38Speaker 10: And it was us and our dear friend Sharon.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Oh wow, you both won first place.
- 3:43Speaker 10: One first place tie.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Must have been phenomenal.
- 3:46Speaker 9: Decorating it was phenomenal. Not one of our best efforts,
- 3:50Speaker 9: but clearly the crowd loved it.
- 3:52Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, went over the crowd. Gladiator told us that, yep,
- 3:55Speaker 6: are you not entertained?
- 3:56Speaker 2: And they were, and that's it.
- 3:58Speaker 9: You know, sometimes it might not have be your best
- 3:59Speaker 9: decoring effort, but you got to put forth with the effort.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Uh huh. And we gave it all all. You won
- 4:05Speaker 2: the crowd, you won your freedom.
- 4:07Speaker 7: So tied for first. Yeah, and second. How do you
- 4:10Speaker 7: how many carts get decorated in this type of thing?
- 4:14Speaker 9: Usually, I mean twenty to thirty. This ye was a
- 4:18Speaker 9: little different, different, like for there were two.
- 4:22Speaker 4: Oh man, yeah, oh man.
- 4:27Speaker 9: See, so when I walked up and saw the other
- 4:30Speaker 9: cart decorated, I was like, there's this year is different
- 4:35Speaker 9: and there's two. We're getting a prize this year.
- 4:38Speaker 2: Boy, it really sucked if you finished second this year.
- 4:41Speaker 9: I thought we were honestly going to finish second because
- 4:43Speaker 9: I when I say it was not our best effort.
- 4:45Speaker 9: We put some tinsel on the outside because it was
- 4:47Speaker 9: pouring and we didn't want it to blow away.
- 4:51Speaker 2: But then we had Palmer and a Christmas tree outfit.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Baba the Great and the.
- 4:54Speaker 9: Christmas tree outfit put you over the top. She walked
- 4:57Speaker 9: right in front of the cart. She was in addition
- 4:59Speaker 9: to the cart actually.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Probably put you to the top since you didn't finish
- 5:02Speaker 2: over the time, just.
- 5:03Speaker 9: Put us at the top alongside the other person that
- 5:07Speaker 9: made an effort to show up with a decorated cart.
- 5:09Speaker 2: It didn't put you below the top, correct, yes, correct, Yeah,
- 5:13Speaker 2: so it played a role. So there you go, guys.
- 5:15Speaker 7: Yeah, that's impressive.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what, I'm impressed. It might be
- 5:19Speaker 2: a strong word.
- 5:20Speaker 4: In fifty years when they're talking about the champions and
- 5:23Speaker 4: even co champions, they're not.
- 5:24Speaker 7: Gonna they're not going to say out of how many cars?
- 5:27Speaker 9: Oh no, they definitely will, because everybody was laughing, like
- 5:30Speaker 9: the fact that because there were a lot of people
- 5:32Speaker 9: at the open house, nobody just decorated carts because the
- 5:35Speaker 9: club will provide carts and people can decorate those.
- 5:37Speaker 10: But it's pouring and they don't have doors, so they're
- 5:39Speaker 10: gonna get soaked.
- 5:40Speaker 6: You know what, when they talk about Bill Russell's eleven champions,
- 5:43Speaker 6: uh huh, chips. You know, the Celtics themselves don't point
- 5:47Speaker 6: out there were only like ten teams in.
- 5:48Speaker 2: The league, right, you know, right, you know the Yankees.
- 5:52Speaker 6: So when they you know, in the Babe Ruth days,
- 5:54Speaker 6: nobody goes out of their way to say that there
- 5:56Speaker 6: were only fourteen teams in the league.
- 5:58Speaker 2: I mean, think about it, think about it.
- 5:59Speaker 6: That I will think about it basically the Celtics dynasty.
- 6:03Speaker 10: And I like that thought process.
- 6:05Speaker 9: The problem here again, though, is that everybody laughed a
- 6:08Speaker 9: lot because there were only two carts. So it will
- 6:11Speaker 9: be talked about for years to come. How two people
- 6:14Speaker 9: braved the elements to show up for the cart parade
- 6:16Speaker 9: and one of them made her child walk in the ring.
- 6:18Speaker 1: You know what.
- 6:19Speaker 6: That's another part of this that has to be etched
- 6:21Speaker 6: in history, is how much you braved the elements.
- 6:24Speaker 2: See, And that's all I'm saying. I mean there were
- 6:27Speaker 2: gale force winds.
- 6:29Speaker 6: Going on and a lot of water and a lot Well, congratulations,
- 6:33Speaker 6: thank you.
- 6:33Speaker 2: We're going to celebrate this moment. We got a champion
- 6:36Speaker 2: on it. That's right, that's right when we started this show.
- 6:42Speaker 2: Oh okay, how many were in it? I don't even
- 6:44Speaker 2: care you were at the top.
- 6:46Speaker 10: I don't remember how many were in it. All I
- 6:48Speaker 10: remember is the moment.
- 6:49Speaker 2: It was.
- 6:51Speaker 6: Yeah, I was the champion of my meal I had
- 6:53Speaker 6: last night. I was the only person that ate it
- 6:56Speaker 6: and I won it.
- 6:57Speaker 10: Congratulations, I defeated the meal and how did it feel.
- 7:00Speaker 7: Uh like a winner?
- 7:02Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 7:02Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt like a winner. Well, there you go,
- 7:05Speaker 2: and that's the way the Winsday edition. I me.
- 7:07Speaker 6: You know, it's great to win a championship before even
- 7:10Speaker 6: play your biggest game of the year. So look at
- 7:13Speaker 6: the look at the leg up Ashley's got on. All
- 7:15Speaker 6: RAMS fans just.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Wanted to get us, you know, off on the winning FLA.
- 7:19Speaker 6: It's not like a RAM fan one, No RAM fan
- 7:23Speaker 6: one last night the other people weren't.
- 7:24Speaker 2: Rammed, I would have taken the prize and run.
- 7:26Speaker 6: Okay, well Ram Seahawks. It is tomorrow night. And of
- 7:32Speaker 6: course I don't know if there's anybody in the National
- 7:35Speaker 6: Football League in analyst that's questioning whether or not the
- 7:38Speaker 6: Seahawks defense is ready for this matchup against Matt Stafford.
- 7:42Speaker 6: They've already faced the Rams, uh and did well. Matt
- 7:47Speaker 6: Stafford has had an MVP season. The only time he
- 7:49Speaker 6: didn't look like an MVP was against the Seahawks when
- 7:52Speaker 6: they faced him. He actually looked confused at times. He
- 7:55Speaker 6: certainly didn't put up the numbers that have made him
- 7:58Speaker 6: an MVP candidate. And so I don't know if anybody's
- 8:02Speaker 6: questioning whether or not the Seahawks defense is going to
- 8:04Speaker 6: be ready for this matchup tomorrow night. But it feels
- 8:07Speaker 6: like everybody's questioning whether the offense is where it needs
- 8:10Speaker 6: to be heading into this game. Yet they posted some
- 8:15Speaker 6: big numbers eventually against the Atlanta Falcons and ended up
- 8:19Speaker 6: with a blowout eventually against the Minnesota Vikings.
- 8:22Speaker 2: But there's some red flags going on around here.
- 8:25Speaker 6: As Hugh Millen helped us point out on Monday morning,
- 8:29Speaker 6: you played the Indianapolis Colts with Philip Rivers quarterbacking on
- 8:33Speaker 6: the other side, and yet you didn't score a touchdown
- 8:36Speaker 6: four quarters. You didn't score a touchdown at home against
- 8:39Speaker 6: the Indianapolis Colts, And so there are a couple of things.
- 8:42Speaker 6: Number one, why are you settling for so many.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Field goals these days?
- 8:46Speaker 6: We also have the Sam Darnold turnover issue that Greg
- 8:50Speaker 6: brings up a lot that is undeniable. It's factual information.
- 8:54Speaker 6: He's one of the league leaders in number of turnovers
- 8:58Speaker 6: individually as a quarterback this year. And certainly there is
- 9:03Speaker 6: a big concern over a lack of a running game.
- 9:07Speaker 6: No matter how hard they try, no matter how much
- 9:10Speaker 6: effort they give toward this project, they don't seem to
- 9:14Speaker 6: be getting better at it. And so as we get
- 9:17Speaker 6: ready for the biggest game of the year, you do wonder.
- 9:20Speaker 6: You have to wonder whether or not this offense is
- 9:23Speaker 6: in a good place to pull off its biggest win.
- 9:25Speaker 7: Of the season.
- 9:26Speaker 4: They're gonna have to show up and play one of
- 9:29Speaker 4: their better games, you would think, and or you know
- 9:32Speaker 4: that combined with some mistakes for that the defense forces
- 9:36Speaker 4: some mistakes, or you know, some short fields for them
- 9:39Speaker 4: and whatnot. But yeah, I think that you can come
- 9:41Speaker 4: off of a win against a team that is heading
- 9:44Speaker 4: in the opposite direction of where you're wanting to go
- 9:47Speaker 4: in the Colts, I mean, and who they were playing
- 9:49Speaker 4: at quarterback, all that kind of stuff, you could you
- 9:51Speaker 4: can come off of a win and still not feel
- 9:54Speaker 4: better about yourself going into the bigger, biggest game. And
- 9:56Speaker 4: I think the offensive side of the ball should Now
- 9:59Speaker 4: is that a different ball game if you're playing against
- 10:01Speaker 4: the Rams. Is there times that they go for it
- 10:03Speaker 4: on fourth down when they when they decided to kick
- 10:06Speaker 4: field goals? I think quite possibly, because typically the Rams
- 10:10Speaker 4: are a team that isn't going to have as much
- 10:13Speaker 4: of a difficulty of putting up points as well no
- 10:15Speaker 4: matter how good your defense is, they're still going to
- 10:18Speaker 4: they're still going to get down and they're going to
- 10:20Speaker 4: move the ball from time to time.
- 10:21Speaker 7: It's it's against their offense.
- 10:23Speaker 4: You're thinking, we got to contain this situation, you know,
- 10:25Speaker 4: when we think our defense can, it's not. You're not
- 10:27Speaker 4: probably going out there thinking a shutout as likely, And
- 10:31Speaker 4: so I think the offense has to do a little
- 10:33Speaker 4: bit more than just hopefully kind of stay in it
- 10:36Speaker 4: that type of a thing, because they're just there's some
- 10:38Speaker 4: danger on that rams side of things, and it's not
- 10:40Speaker 4: like their defense is some slouch either. They can take
- 10:43Speaker 4: the ball away from you, they can get after the pass,
- 10:45Speaker 4: so they can they can fortune mistakes too. So it's
- 10:48Speaker 4: there's a lot going on into this thing, and I
- 10:49Speaker 4: think the offensive masterminds over there definitely have their hands full.
- 10:53Speaker 6: As much as I like going forward on fourth down,
- 10:55Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not Greg Olsen, but I'm more in
- 10:58Speaker 6: the Olsen category. I do like going forward on fourth down.
- 11:02Speaker 6: I don't like settling for field goals. I really didn't
- 11:04Speaker 6: have a problem with those decisions. I mean, there were
- 11:07Speaker 6: six of them to be made on Sunday, and each
- 11:11Speaker 6: time Mike McDonald took the points and it turned out
- 11:15Speaker 6: to be just enough. I don't really want to. I
- 11:17Speaker 6: don't really like playing football that way. I think Pete
- 11:19Speaker 6: Carroll did this. Sometimes. I just want to be there
- 11:21Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter. I'd rather be up ten in
- 11:23Speaker 6: the fourth quarter. Frankly, Yeah, I don't want to sit
- 11:26Speaker 6: there and let it hinge on whether or not I
- 11:27Speaker 6: can stop a team from getting into field goal range
- 11:30Speaker 6: or if we can get into field goal range. Because
- 11:32Speaker 6: we're playing a one score game. I'd much prefer having
- 11:36Speaker 6: a big lead heading into the fourth quarter. So I
- 11:38Speaker 6: don't necessarily, I mean as a whole, I don't like
- 11:43Speaker 6: putting our putting my team in that position. That said,
- 11:46Speaker 6: the six decisions that he made, I don't know if
- 11:49Speaker 6: I had a problem with any of them. Where I
- 11:51Speaker 6: do have a problem is the way that Clint Kubiak
- 11:54Speaker 6: seems to be approaching, you know, getting into the red zone,
- 11:59Speaker 6: or as Hugh and Coach talked about on Monday, the
- 12:02Speaker 6: fringe zone, which now you only have to get in
- 12:05Speaker 6: the fringe zone twenty to forty yard line, because that
- 12:08Speaker 6: puts you in field goal range in today's game, especially
- 12:10Speaker 6: when you're boasting the hottest kicker in the National Football League.
- 12:13Speaker 6: But it's very clear that this team's not really running
- 12:16Speaker 6: the football effectively, and we have now had fourteen games
- 12:20Speaker 6: to try to figure out how to do that well.
- 12:23Speaker 6: We're getting ready for the biggest three games of the
- 12:25Speaker 6: year against three potential playoff teams. Two of them are
- 12:29Speaker 6: going to be on the road, and so I don't
- 12:32Speaker 6: want to sit here and just spend my entire game
- 12:35Speaker 6: trying to establish that we can run the football.
- 12:38Speaker 2: And I'll give you two great examples of this.
- 12:41Speaker 6: I mean, you try to establish the run in the
- 12:43Speaker 6: first quarter, you can't get anything going against the Indianapolis Colts.
- 12:47Speaker 6: At the end of the first quarter, you finally start
- 12:49Speaker 6: clicking Donald hits cup for sixteen yards, then Donald to
- 12:53Speaker 6: Shiheed for thirteen yards, and you go from the thirty
- 12:56Speaker 6: eight yard line to their thirty three yard line, and
- 12:59Speaker 6: no time, you're at their thirty three yard line and
- 13:02Speaker 6: you started going up tempo. Even the announcers pointed that out.
- 13:05Speaker 6: Look at how they're just racing to So it's like, okay,
- 13:08Speaker 6: all right, we tried to establish the run. You're not
- 13:11Speaker 6: going to abandon the run late in the first quarter.
- 13:14Speaker 6: But you got to get the offense going and it
- 13:16Speaker 6: looks like you have and what did they do on
- 13:18Speaker 6: the next three plays? Walker run left, pitch left, walker left, draw,
- 13:23Speaker 6: walker field goal. By everything that you got going, you
- 13:29Speaker 6: then just gave away. And I realized that the art
- 13:32Speaker 6: of football is to do something that they're not expecting,
- 13:36Speaker 6: but not at the risk of doing something that you're
- 13:39Speaker 6: good at. Right right, I mean, because we've seen throughout
- 13:44Speaker 6: history that I mean, Mike Holmgren didn't not throw the
- 13:48Speaker 6: football because he knew the defense knew that they could
- 13:52Speaker 6: throw the football, and to me, that is happening way
- 13:56Speaker 6: too frequently. There are other examples in it as well,
- 14:00Speaker 6: like there were a couple of drives that bogged down,
- 14:03Speaker 6: a Brady Russell drop, a missed PI.
- 14:06Speaker 2: At one point, you had two at the end of
- 14:08Speaker 2: the first half.
- 14:09Speaker 6: You're trying to just get a field goal out of it,
- 14:11Speaker 6: and so you're trying to get into field goal range.
- 14:13Speaker 6: You're not trying to put together a long touchdown drive
- 14:15Speaker 6: at that point, and so that's how you finished with
- 14:17Speaker 6: three points at one point. And then later in the game,
- 14:20Speaker 6: kind of the same thing happened. They were rolling, they
- 14:24Speaker 6: were clicking, and then they decided once we're in scoring range,
- 14:28Speaker 6: let's run the football, and the thing bogged down again.
- 14:31Speaker 6: And so I'm not saying that he has to change dramatically, Ashley.
- 14:36Speaker 6: I'm not saying you abandoned the run. But man, this
- 14:40Speaker 6: is not in the must win category, because I think
- 14:43Speaker 6: you're making the playoffs no matter what. But if you
- 14:46Speaker 6: want to win the division, this is a must win.
- 14:49Speaker 6: And I don't want to sit here spending the entire day,
- 14:51Speaker 6: spending every drive trying to make sure the Rams know
- 14:54Speaker 6: that we can run the football. We might not be
- 14:57Speaker 6: able to run the football, and we definitely damn sure
- 15:00Speaker 6: can throw the football, and we certainly have a wide
- 15:02Speaker 6: receiver that dominates football games. We've watched it time and
- 15:05Speaker 6: time again, no matter how many people that they put
- 15:07Speaker 6: on him. And so I don't want to sacrifice what
- 15:10Speaker 6: we do best just to show the Rams that what
- 15:13Speaker 6: we do worst.
- 15:15Speaker 2: Is something we can do. It's something we can do.
- 15:17Speaker 2: And I think that that's been happening way too frequently.
- 15:20Speaker 9: Yeah, it's very frustrating that I don't think that that
- 15:23Speaker 9: you need to prove to anyone you can run the football,
- 15:26Speaker 9: And it does seem like at times they want to
- 15:27Speaker 9: prove to people that they can do it, and I
- 15:29Speaker 9: don't understand it. I noticed on Sunday that when they
- 15:32Speaker 9: started speeding things up, like you were just talking about
- 15:34Speaker 9: the tempo of the offense, that's when they were their
- 15:36Speaker 9: most successful.
- 15:36Speaker 2: And then it would just and.
- 15:38Speaker 9: You had a lot of energy in the building and
- 15:40Speaker 9: then all of a sudden, it would just fizzle because
- 15:42Speaker 9: the offense just fizzled. And I don't know why you
- 15:45Speaker 9: would all of a sudden change that I understand. You
- 15:47Speaker 9: have to have, you know, different plays in different you know,
- 15:50Speaker 9: a different game plan once you're inside the red zone,
- 15:52Speaker 9: but it shouldn't be a completely different game plan that
- 15:55Speaker 9: takes away your best weapon.
- 15:57Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 15:58Speaker 2: The other example was at the end of the third core.
- 16:00Speaker 6: I mean, you have the ball at the twenty at
- 16:02Speaker 6: the time, you're trailing by a touchdown, Donald that beauty
- 16:06Speaker 6: to Shaheed twenty seven yards, Donald to Cup for six yards.
- 16:10Speaker 6: Then you mixed in a run, got one yard for
- 16:12Speaker 6: your effort. Then on the very next play twenty nine
- 16:15Speaker 6: yards to JSN and you've gone from the twenty to
- 16:18Speaker 6: their seventeen throwing the football and then what happens you
- 16:23Speaker 6: get into the fourth quarter, you have a break, you
- 16:25Speaker 6: come out of the fourth quarter, you're in their red zone.
- 16:27Speaker 6: You are in a position, and.
- 16:28Speaker 2: What do we do? Run?
- 16:30Speaker 6: Run, third and long pass. So that to me just
- 16:34Speaker 6: I'm not saying overhauled, Bucky. I'm not saying you a
- 16:37Speaker 6: band in the run. I'm just saying I'm not going
- 16:41Speaker 6: to spend the biggest game of the year trying to
- 16:44Speaker 6: prove to the National Football League that you have to
- 16:47Speaker 6: respect our running game. Let's do what we do best
- 16:50Speaker 6: when it matters most.
- 16:52Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I mean I get what you're saying.
- 16:53Speaker 4: They're not a drastic overhaul, not abandoning the run, but
- 16:56Speaker 4: not necessarily being so you know, clutching onto it so
- 17:00Speaker 4: that you feel like, man, what are we going to do?
- 17:02Speaker 4: I mean, I think that there's it's a you know,
- 17:05Speaker 4: I talk a lot of times when we're talking about
- 17:06Speaker 4: baseball about like the approach right, like be ready to
- 17:09Speaker 4: ambush first pitch, fast past. So that doesn't mean I
- 17:11Speaker 4: want everybody going up there and swinging at the first.
- 17:13Speaker 7: Pitch, right, you know what I mean.
- 17:15Speaker 4: So that's like you don't want everybody, you don't want
- 17:17Speaker 4: Sam Donald to drop back and pass first down every
- 17:20Speaker 4: time just because it seems to be the way they
- 17:22Speaker 4: move the ball the best, obviously, but there's a part
- 17:26Speaker 4: where I mean that first example that you said where
- 17:29Speaker 4: their first scoring drive they go three and out their
- 17:31Speaker 4: first their first possession, the second possession is that bang bang,
- 17:34Speaker 4: couple passes and then run, run, run. It's like somewhere
- 17:38Speaker 4: in those three, right, I mean, you could just keep
- 17:40Speaker 4: rolling with this thing.
- 17:41Speaker 7: Right and then and then you get it. Yeah, why not?
- 17:44Speaker 4: I mean the first run they run and he ends
- 17:46Speaker 4: up getting four yards. Okay, so now you're second and six.
- 17:50Speaker 4: Somewhere here you got to go. You got to just
- 17:52Speaker 4: stick with what got you here. Take you know, dance
- 17:54Speaker 4: with the girl that got you to the thirty yard
- 17:57Speaker 4: line or whatever, twenty nine yard line at that point
- 17:59Speaker 4: instead of two more runs because you're I mean, when
- 18:02Speaker 4: you get to third and four, it's like you're just
- 18:04Speaker 4: trying to trick him.
- 18:04Speaker 1: Now.
- 18:05Speaker 4: I would be curious to find out from you or
- 18:08Speaker 4: Sam Donald if the opponents are showing them pass defenses
- 18:14Speaker 4: pre snap and then if they're adjusting to their run right,
- 18:17Speaker 4: like if it's if they maybe Clint Kubak is calling
- 18:20Speaker 4: a pass there, you would think third and four after
- 18:22Speaker 4: he goes pass pass to get down there, two runs
- 18:25Speaker 4: and now you're at third and four. You would think
- 18:27Speaker 4: that's a pass play, right, That typically is a pass
- 18:29Speaker 4: play in the NFL. Nope, draw and then instead they
- 18:31Speaker 4: and so that might be one of those where he's
- 18:33Speaker 4: like the defense is messing with Sam Donald and he's
- 18:36Speaker 4: checking out of the play. I don't know for sure,
- 18:38Speaker 4: but I mean it's just a food for thought as
- 18:41Speaker 4: to why they do it, because I would have to
- 18:44Speaker 4: think that if you're if I'm an offensive coordinator, yes,
- 18:46Speaker 4: I want to be able to run, but I would
- 18:48Speaker 4: also like to just move the ball in chunks. How
- 18:50Speaker 4: much easier is it when you're getting twenty yard plays,
- 18:52Speaker 4: fifteen yard plays, thirty yard plays. It's a whole heck
- 18:55Speaker 4: of a lot easier to move the ball down the
- 18:56Speaker 4: field versus thinking you're gonna get twelve runs that are
- 18:59Speaker 4: going to quit the yards and seven points.
- 19:01Speaker 6: Anybody that has been an adult and has socialized at
- 19:04Speaker 6: some point in their life, at one point at a
- 19:07Speaker 6: party was in charge of the music. And if the
- 19:10Speaker 6: party's jumping, you don't just suddenly choose that.
- 19:13Speaker 2: Moment to play the carpenters. No, right, I mean yeah
- 19:17Speaker 2: at the junior high party.
- 19:19Speaker 6: Yeah, you've got to strategize when you're gonna play the
- 19:21Speaker 6: slow song, because it's the only time the boys will
- 19:24Speaker 6: actually dance.
- 19:26Speaker 2: You know, at least in my high school, a lot
- 19:28Speaker 2: of white people.
- 19:30Speaker 6: But when you're in charge of your own party and
- 19:34Speaker 6: you've got you've got to read the energy of the party, right.
- 19:37Speaker 6: You don't just to suddenly go from everybody's dancing and
- 19:41Speaker 6: having a good time and then you just slip in
- 19:43Speaker 6: some Anne Murray Morose number that just kills the entire
- 19:48Speaker 6: mood of the party. And it's the same thing with
- 19:50Speaker 6: Colin plays. I don't want to just play slow songs
- 19:53Speaker 6: just because we think we need to just feed.
- 19:56Speaker 2: The feel, the feel, the beat of the rhythm of
- 20:00Speaker 2: the night.
- 20:00Speaker 6: That's right, Yeah, all right, let's find out what's on
- 20:02Speaker 6: tap for today's show.
- 20:06Speaker 3: What's on TEP, what's on tech?
- 20:09Speaker 2: All right, Greg bel joins us this morning at seven
- 20:11Speaker 2: o five.
- 20:12Speaker 6: His buddy Omar Ruiz from the NFL Network, who's been
- 20:16Speaker 6: doing a lot of stuff in la will be joining
- 20:18Speaker 6: us today at eight o'clock this morning, So that's coming
- 20:22Speaker 6: up on the show. Injury updates, still a question mark
- 20:25Speaker 6: about DeVante Adams with the Rams. Also, Charles Cross for
- 20:28Speaker 6: the Seahawks. Will get those updates from Greg at seven five.
- 20:32Speaker 6: College football playoff week, Oklahoma takes on Alabama Friday to
- 20:36Speaker 6: get it started the three games on Saturday. We'll talk
- 20:39Speaker 6: a little college football playoff later in the show. Crack
- 20:42Speaker 6: and lost again last night. To Everett Fitzhugh's point, it's
- 20:45Speaker 6: not like they've been playing bad hockey, just not good
- 20:48Speaker 6: enough to win games for goodness sake, and that was
- 20:51Speaker 6: a perfect example of that last night. They actually led
- 20:55Speaker 6: three to two against Colorado, but end up losing the
- 20:58Speaker 6: game against the best team in the NHL right now
- 21:01Speaker 6: by a final score of five to three. The NBA
- 21:04Speaker 6: It's Cup champion this year is the New York Knicks.
- 21:07Speaker 6: We got to find some time to talk about this
- 21:09Speaker 6: later on. The Knicks one over the San Antonio Spurs
- 21:12Speaker 6: to take a trophy that apparently NBA players don't want,
- 21:15Speaker 6: so we'll talk about that also, though the bigger news.
- 21:18Speaker 6: Adam Silvery yesterday discussed expansion and said that we will
- 21:23Speaker 6: address this once and for all in twenty twenty six.
- 21:26Speaker 6: We won't put Seattle in Vegas through this any longer.
- 21:28Speaker 6: We will make an announcement this year, and he mentioned
- 21:31Speaker 6: no other city specifically beyond Seattle and Las Vegas. And finally,
- 21:37Speaker 6: Terrence Crawford forty two to ohero in his boxing career.
- 21:40Speaker 6: I know we don't make as big a deal out
- 21:42Speaker 6: of boxing anymore, but this was this guy's in the
- 21:45Speaker 6: conversation for one of the greatest pound for pound fighters
- 21:48Speaker 6: of all time, and he just decided, I've won like
- 21:51Speaker 6: six different belts at six different weight levels, and I
- 21:53Speaker 6: don't really like the politics. I'm retiring. I got nothing
- 21:57Speaker 6: left to prove. So a pretty big story there from
- 21:59Speaker 6: the boxing world yesterday. Coming up next Major League Baseball.
- 22:03Speaker 6: The Mariners made a signing yesterday. We'll tell you how
- 22:06Speaker 6: that impacts the roster going forward. It's Chucking buck on
- 22:09Speaker 6: a Wednesday, Sports Radio ninety three point three k a
- 22:11Speaker 6: r FM. Belly tovin it, Steve, It's at bar Circle,
- 22:16Speaker 6: Stevens at looks in.
- 22:18Speaker 2: The middle six.
- 22:26Speaker 6: Stevie Wonder through traffic from the right side, and by
- 22:31Speaker 6: Blackwood the Seammo Crocket on the power play regain the.
- 22:36Speaker 2: Lead three two.
- 22:42Speaker 6: But great evert pits you voice of your Seattle cracking
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- 22:47Speaker 6: three kJ r FM. He was Mick delivering last night.
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- 23:08Speaker 6: for details. The Kraken couldn't get it done again last night.
- 23:13Speaker 6: That's now what nine out of ten games that they
- 23:15Speaker 6: have lost. Yes, they were taking on the best team
- 23:19Speaker 6: in the NHL right now, the Colorado Avalanche, and yes
- 23:22Speaker 6: they led at one point in the second period in
- 23:25Speaker 6: that contest, but they end up coughing up the lead losing,
- 23:29Speaker 6: got an empty net goal late. Wasn't as bad as
- 23:31Speaker 6: what it looked like. It was about a one goal
- 23:33Speaker 6: difference in that game, but it ends up being five
- 23:35Speaker 6: to three is your final score. So the Krakens losing
- 23:38Speaker 6: ways continue. They can't seem to get out of this
- 23:41Speaker 6: slump right now. Nine losses in their last ten games.
- 23:45Speaker 6: They'll try to end the skid in Calgary against the Flames,
- 23:48Speaker 6: and that game will be tomorrow night.
- 23:50Speaker 2: At six o'clock, let's.
- 23:53Speaker 6: Take a look at the rest of your frost brewed
- 23:54Speaker 6: Corps light choose chill headlines from the NBA. Theba A
- 24:00Speaker 6: Cup was determined last night. This end season tournament that
- 24:03Speaker 6: the NBA is trying to convince us is really cool,
- 24:06Speaker 6: and yet it really feels like players are embarrassed to
- 24:09Speaker 6: win it.
- 24:09Speaker 2: That's probably not a good thing for Adam Silver.
- 24:12Speaker 6: But based on Adam Silver's other report yesterday that he
- 24:17Speaker 6: is going to announce in twenty twenty six the expansion
- 24:20Speaker 6: plans for the National Basketball Association, we should probably be
- 24:24Speaker 6: kissing up to the commissioner right now. So I'll say, man,
- 24:27Speaker 6: I love that NBA Cup. What theater you've created, Adam Silver.
- 24:31Speaker 6: You are a genius.
- 24:32Speaker 9: The way you paint those floors to give everyone a
- 24:34Speaker 9: headache amazing.
- 24:36Speaker 2: Ah man.
- 24:36Speaker 6: And it is NonStop, breathtaking action. I think it's nearly
- 24:40Speaker 6: as good as the NBA.
- 24:41Speaker 4: Finals, probably better, but just halfway through the season it's
- 24:46Speaker 4: like two of.
- 24:47Speaker 2: Them, two championships.
- 24:49Speaker 6: Silver said that yes, he's put Seattle in Vegas through
- 24:53Speaker 6: too much waiting for this announcement, and he really didn't
- 24:56Speaker 6: mention anybody else.
- 24:58Speaker 8: He kind of.
- 24:58Speaker 6: Lumped in the rest of the world with other possibilities
- 25:01Speaker 6: for expansion. He named Seattle and Las Vegas individually collectively.
- 25:07Speaker 6: He said, we will make an announcement in twenty twenty six.
- 25:10Speaker 6: Enough of this, so yes, that is a bit of
- 25:13Speaker 6: news that we certainly will discuss a little bit later
- 25:17Speaker 6: on in the show.
- 25:18Speaker 2: It's college football playoff week.
- 25:19Speaker 6: Oklahoma and Alabama will get it started on Friday night
- 25:22Speaker 6: at five o'clock.
- 25:23Speaker 2: There'll be three games on Saturday.
- 25:26Speaker 6: Also from college football, Jeremiah Love announced his intentions to
- 25:30Speaker 6: enter the NFL Draft. Very likely he'll be a top
- 25:32Speaker 6: ten pick, maybe even a top five pick, even though
- 25:36Speaker 6: he plays the running back position.
- 25:37Speaker 2: Mariners made a signing yesterday.
- 25:39Speaker 6: They signed a true backup catcher yesterday, Andrew Kisner, to
- 25:43Speaker 6: a one year deal.
- 25:45Speaker 2: So Kisner is just to give you a scouting report.
- 25:49Speaker 6: My dad used to make He made me a pitchback
- 25:51Speaker 6: when I was a kid because he couldn't always be
- 25:53Speaker 6: home to catch and throw it back to me. So
- 25:57Speaker 6: he made it like this pitchback thing. It was like
- 25:59Speaker 6: this wear thing with a net and it would just
- 26:01Speaker 6: launch the ball right back to me. That's pretty much
- 26:04Speaker 6: Andrew Kissner he's a pitchback with feet.
- 26:06Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's the role that he will play.
- 26:10Speaker 6: And of course in the National Football League, Thursday Night
- 26:13Speaker 6: football gets it started and we are at the heart
- 26:16Speaker 6: of the football world. Seattle will host the Los Angeles
- 26:19Speaker 6: Rams tomorrow, the biggest game of the regular season. Time
- 26:23Speaker 6: to talk more about it with our Seahawks insider Greg
- 26:26Speaker 6: Bell with.
- 26:27Speaker 11: The Bell tolls.
- 26:28Speaker 3: It must be seven o'clock and time for twelfth Man
- 26:31Speaker 3: News with Greg Bell, brought to you by Coppola Diamond
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- 26:44Speaker 3: Now with twelk Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
- 26:48Speaker 3: and Bud.
- 26:49Speaker 6: Good morning, Greg. All right, well here we are just
- 26:54Speaker 6: a day away. I mean, we're already days into this
- 26:57Speaker 6: conversation about this game, but that's how big it is.
- 27:01Speaker 6: And of course so we highlight injury reports more so
- 27:04Speaker 6: than ever we have. Do we have any updated information
- 27:08Speaker 6: on our left tackle and their number two wide receiver.
- 27:11Speaker 8: Today, Well, they both were estimated not practicing again. The
- 27:15Speaker 8: Seahawks had a T shirt.
- 27:16Speaker 12: Practice or walked through and they said if had they
- 27:20Speaker 12: had a fuller practice that they estimate that Charles Cross
- 27:25Speaker 12: was not a practice with the hamstring issue to Vante Adams,
- 27:28Speaker 12: same thing for Los Angeles.
- 27:30Speaker 1: Look, hamstring issues are probably.
- 27:32Speaker 8: The wrong injury to try to go three days rest
- 27:35Speaker 8: and play two games on and especially with two teams
- 27:39Speaker 8: that are going to be playing in January. So I
- 27:43Speaker 8: would be surprised at this point if either one of
- 27:45Speaker 8: them play. The word I'm getting from friends of mine
- 27:49Speaker 8: that around the Rams in LA say that Adams is
- 27:51Speaker 8: probably not going to play. But the McVeigh is kind
- 27:54Speaker 8: of doing a little bit of gamesmanship by saying we'll
- 27:56Speaker 8: take it up to game time. I'm pretty sure that's
- 27:59Speaker 8: what McDonald's going to say the same thing about.
- 28:01Speaker 1: Charles Cross today. But I would be surprised if either
- 28:05Speaker 1: one plays.
- 28:06Speaker 8: That means Josh Jones at left tackle, and it means
- 28:10Speaker 8: probably more of three tight ends for the Rams. They
- 28:13Speaker 8: played twenty four and a half percent, almost twenty five percent,
- 28:17Speaker 8: one out of every four plays in three tight ends,
- 28:20Speaker 8: by far the most of the league. The league averages
- 28:23Speaker 8: five percent. Colby Parkinson has been very good for them
- 28:26Speaker 8: in the former Seahawks of course that they drafted first
- 28:29Speaker 8: four years in the league with Seattle, He's been the
- 28:31Speaker 8: primary thrust of that. But they have a Terrence Ferguson,
- 28:34Speaker 8: a rookie that also sixty six, two hundred and fifty pounds.
- 28:38Speaker 8: Becomes a matchup nightmare when you have to cover Parkinson
- 28:43Speaker 8: and Ferguson and a third tight.
- 28:45Speaker 1: End who has three touchdowns.
- 28:47Speaker 8: But I wrote for the News Tribune yesterday, I think
- 28:49Speaker 8: the Seahawks and the Seahawks think the Seahawks are uniquely
- 28:53Speaker 8: prepared for this because of Nicky un Worry in particular,
- 28:56Speaker 8: they have an asset that not of anybody else has.
- 28:59Speaker 8: They can mix and match Witherspoon and Emon Warrey on
- 29:02Speaker 8: if they go three tight ends, they could put Witherspoon
- 29:06Speaker 8: on Cook the CooA. They can even put nick demon
- 29:08Speaker 8: Warrey on Poopoo Nacoa because we've seen even Worrie even
- 29:12Speaker 8: covering Justin Jefferson. So, like I said yesterday, I think
- 29:16Speaker 8: Mike McDonald's got unlike any other defense of MINDA league.
- 29:21Speaker 8: I think he's got Sean McVay. I think we may
- 29:23Speaker 8: see that again the morrow night.
- 29:25Speaker 4: So if it is just Jones and I'm with you,
- 29:27Speaker 4: I think that the hamstrings. Those are touchy ones. I
- 29:30Speaker 4: remember in college polling one and then I came back
- 29:33Speaker 4: too soon and next thing you know, is a lingering
- 29:35Speaker 4: thing for the rest of the season. So I think
- 29:36Speaker 4: they do take those really seriously. That just Jones, is
- 29:39Speaker 4: there a drop off because I mean, looking at some
- 29:41Speaker 4: of the stats and his limited amount of time, he
- 29:44Speaker 4: actually looked pretty good out there.
- 29:46Speaker 1: He isn't good and.
- 29:47Speaker 8: That's why they signed m to be a swing tackle.
- 29:49Speaker 8: He came in the other day at right tackle when
- 29:51Speaker 8: Abe Lucas was getting checked for a few plays that
- 29:53Speaker 8: Lucas was signed to finish the game. But sure there's
- 29:56Speaker 8: a drop off. Otherwise Joshines will be starting. They have
- 30:01Speaker 8: the strength of their offensive line coming in the season
- 30:03Speaker 8: was their two starting tackles, so if one was not
- 30:05Speaker 8: gonna play in the biggest game of the year, yeah, absolutely,
- 30:08Speaker 8: that's a drop off. But again, this is why they
- 30:11Speaker 8: signed Josh Jones, a veteran who's played both sides of
- 30:13Speaker 8: the line and tackle both sides of the line of guard,
- 30:17Speaker 8: most recently for the Ravens, but for Houston and other teams.
- 30:21Speaker 8: This is why he's here. So go do what you've
- 30:23Speaker 8: been signed to do.
- 30:24Speaker 6: Greg Bellis with us our Seahawks Insider. It's interesting you
- 30:28Speaker 6: brought up the name Robbie Ootz yesterday. Maybe we'll see
- 30:30Speaker 6: more of him. I'm also thinking back to me too. Yeah,
- 30:33Speaker 6: I think I'm also thinking back to training camp when
- 30:36Speaker 6: Jalen Milroe was supposed to have a package all season long,
- 30:40Speaker 6: and we haven't heard the name Jalen Milroe in weeks.
- 30:44Speaker 2: Maybe it's pointless to ask about.
- 30:46Speaker 6: Him with such a big game tomorrow, But is there
- 30:49Speaker 6: a chance that there's a couple of little wrinkles involving
- 30:54Speaker 6: him since we've forgotten about him, and maybe the Rams
- 30:56Speaker 6: have as well.
- 30:59Speaker 8: There's a chance, but they've time. They decided that roster
- 31:03Speaker 8: spots are more important than a gimmicky third quarterback package plays.
- 31:08Speaker 8: My read on this, I've talked to Andrew Johnico, the
- 31:11Speaker 8: quarterbacks coach. I've talked to King Kubac about him. They've
- 31:15Speaker 8: decided this is basically a rich shirt year for him,
- 31:18Speaker 8: and because they're not getting consistent push and blocking in
- 31:22Speaker 8: the run game, they decided to scrap this whole experiment
- 31:26Speaker 8: for the time being. Okay, I think that's what I
- 31:29Speaker 8: think that I mean, basically, it's been If we can't
- 31:33Speaker 8: block for Kenneth Walker, why are we going to put
- 31:34Speaker 8: Jana Miller out there and try and get him beat up?
- 31:37Speaker 8: So I think that's where it's at right now, and
- 31:40Speaker 8: this is a red shirt season for him.
- 31:41Speaker 7: All right.
- 31:42Speaker 4: Well, I mean there's some concern with some of the
- 31:46Speaker 4: weather that's rolling in, obviously. I'm just the Seahawks like
- 31:50Speaker 4: to run. They like to make sure that they let
- 31:52Speaker 4: everybody know we're not afraid to run, even if it's
- 31:54Speaker 4: not being super effective, if it's really super windy. Do
- 31:58Speaker 4: you see them even double out on that more?
- 32:00Speaker 13: Unfortunately, Well unfortunately in a way yes, because unfortunately, you'd say,
- 32:07Speaker 13: because of their results forty nine yards on twenty two
- 32:10Speaker 13: carries against the Colts.
- 32:12Speaker 1: But they still lead the league in most run plays.
- 32:15Speaker 8: Forty eight percent of the time they're running, yet they're
- 32:18Speaker 8: fifth to last, and how much they're getting three point
- 32:21Speaker 8: nine yards per carry, And that's the problem. I think
- 32:25Speaker 8: they're going to I don't know to answer your question.
- 32:27Speaker 8: They're not just going to throw up their hands and
- 32:29Speaker 8: say we're not running it anymore. And the conditions tomorrow
- 32:32Speaker 8: will be such that they may even do it even more.
- 32:36Speaker 8: I think the Rams the same way. This is not
- 32:40Speaker 8: a knight. If the win the rain, they can deal
- 32:42Speaker 8: with and we've talked about that. But if this is
- 32:45Speaker 8: as windy as they're predicting, then I don't see this
- 32:48Speaker 8: as a game that Stafford throws it around forty times.
- 32:50Speaker 8: And they Seahawks have been in the run either, keep
- 32:54Speaker 8: saying it. They ain't going anywhere until they.
- 32:56Speaker 1: Run the ball.
- 32:58Speaker 8: Not winning the West, I'll have an home playff games,
- 33:00Speaker 8: not win the super Bowl if they don't win tomorrow. Guys,
- 33:04Speaker 8: the Seahawks are strong. I mean it would take a
- 33:06Speaker 8: catastrophic failure or the Rams to lose the division if
- 33:09Speaker 8: they don't win tomorrow. The Rams don't win tomorrow. But
- 33:11Speaker 8: if the Seahawks don't win tomorrow, we're looking at at Tampa,
- 33:15Speaker 8: at Chicago or Green Bay to start the playoffs. Now,
- 33:19Speaker 8: nobody is so running away with this that you can
- 33:21Speaker 8: look at any team and say, well, the Seahawks have
- 33:23Speaker 8: no chance against them.
- 33:25Speaker 1: But that's not exactly a recipe to go win the
- 33:27Speaker 1: Super Bowl.
- 33:28Speaker 8: Go to Tampa Bay, go to Chicago, and go to
- 33:30Speaker 8: whoever's left after you've won those two games. That's a
- 33:33Speaker 8: tough gauntlet to go the Seahawks can do it because
- 33:37Speaker 8: of the defense they have, but the pass is going
- 33:40Speaker 8: to get a lot harder than to win tomorrow. I
- 33:43Speaker 8: think they're going to keep running it. We'll see they
- 33:46Speaker 8: have any effectiveness at all. K Charles Cross not in
- 33:49Speaker 8: there doesn't help.
- 33:50Speaker 6: It's been so long since we've evaluated Josh Jones, and
- 33:53Speaker 6: I thought he looked terrific in the preseason, particularly, But
- 33:57Speaker 6: what I mean, if you do have to run, they
- 34:00Speaker 6: run the ball more because of weather or because of effectiveness,
- 34:04Speaker 6: whatever the case may be. Does Josh Jones? What's his profile?
- 34:08Speaker 6: Is he a better pass blocker run blocker? How would
- 34:12Speaker 6: we describe Josh Jones at this stage if he is
- 34:14Speaker 6: in fact replacing Charles Cross.
- 34:17Speaker 1: Well, it's been in the league because it was pass blocking.
- 34:19Speaker 1: It's a past league.
- 34:21Speaker 8: But the teams he's played for, Houston and Baltimore before
- 34:24Speaker 8: this particular, run the ball more than most teams do,
- 34:27Speaker 8: especially Baltimore and the Baltimore profile, even though it was
- 34:30Speaker 8: only a year or so that he was there, is
- 34:31Speaker 8: why he's with Seattle. So the answers both and again,
- 34:37Speaker 8: this is why you do this, This is why you
- 34:39Speaker 8: sign a veteran swing guy. I think called the veteran
- 34:43Speaker 8: swing guys and tackles they've had the last few years
- 34:46Speaker 8: instead of just relying on an undrafted rookie year some
- 34:50Speaker 8: roster filler guy. This is the break glass in case
- 34:54Speaker 8: of emergency guy. And that's exactly what they're going to
- 34:57Speaker 8: be looking at tomorrow. Again, they haven't ruled out Charles.
- 35:00Speaker 1: I wouldn't make that cleayer.
- 35:01Speaker 8: But with the hamsterring issue, who've seen that way?
- 35:04Speaker 7: Yeah?
- 35:04Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't think they will, probably right
- 35:07Speaker 4: up until the end. Same with Devonte Adams. But I
- 35:09Speaker 4: have a hard time thing neither of them are going
- 35:11Speaker 4: to play in this game. We're seeing how And I've
- 35:15Speaker 4: seen something you wrote about the thirteen personnel that Sean
- 35:18Speaker 4: McVay runs. Does that play into the hands of the
- 35:22Speaker 4: Seahawks defense or is that something they're not necessarily used to.
- 35:26Speaker 1: Well, they're used.
- 35:27Speaker 8: To it now playing the Rams for a second time,
- 35:30Speaker 8: But this is the first year that McDonald or that.
- 35:33Speaker 1: McVeigh has done it. He's run according to.
- 35:36Speaker 8: Some metrics out there that measure this stuff, he's run
- 35:39Speaker 8: at two hundred and thirteen times in thirteen personnel this year.
- 35:44Speaker 8: In the eight seasons before this, he ran one hundred
- 35:47Speaker 8: and thirty times, so he's done it almost twice as
- 35:50Speaker 8: much in thirteen games as he did in eight years.
- 35:53Speaker 8: He's completely zigg well. The rest of the league zactly.
- 35:56Speaker 8: The rest of the league has been chasing mcvay's schemes
- 36:00Speaker 8: where okay, small guys, horizontal running, Pukunakua, Cooper cup running,
- 36:06Speaker 8: horizontal routes, defensive stretch from sideline to sideline. That was
- 36:12Speaker 8: what the league has been catching up to for better
- 36:14Speaker 8: part of the decade since McVeigh took over that job.
- 36:17Speaker 8: And now he's flipping and going big. And Juliane Love
- 36:20Speaker 8: mentioned this to me the other day that probably next
- 36:23Speaker 8: year two everyone else will catch up to him again
- 36:25Speaker 8: and everyone will be running thirteen personnel and he'll have
- 36:28Speaker 8: another answer for that. I do think it plays into
- 36:31Speaker 8: the Seahawks strength. I do think it puts Nick emon
- 36:34Speaker 8: Worriy on the spot. And what better guy on the
- 36:36Speaker 8: team that'd be on the spot than Nick even worry
- 36:39Speaker 8: he guy does everything and everything really well. Nicky.
- 36:44Speaker 1: He won't get it because he.
- 36:45Speaker 8: Just got in the league and he missed three games.
- 36:46Speaker 8: He should be an All Pro this year, and there
- 36:49Speaker 8: aren't many All Pro rookies that play five positions and
- 36:52Speaker 8: he does. And I knowing McDonald the way I do,
- 36:56Speaker 8: and the fact that he didn't even line up a
- 36:58Speaker 8: defensive end against the I think looking back to McDonald
- 37:03Speaker 8: put even Worry.
- 37:03Speaker 1: At defensive end against the Vikings.
- 37:05Speaker 8: To make McVeigh spend time having to scout that and
- 37:08Speaker 8: come up with an answer for that. This week, he
- 37:12Speaker 8: even worry has been better than we I McDonald anyone
- 37:16Speaker 8: thought he was going to be because of his adaptability
- 37:19Speaker 8: and how quickly he's grasped every single thing McDonald has
- 37:23Speaker 8: given him.
- 37:24Speaker 1: He's gonna give him something new tomorrow. I mean, hell,
- 37:26Speaker 1: he might be.
- 37:26Speaker 8: Playing nose tackle tomorrow, but they will bring up something
- 37:29Speaker 8: tomorrow that he hasn't seen. McVeigh has not seen from
- 37:32Speaker 8: his defense and Nick Emon Worry's gonna be involved in it.
- 37:35Speaker 6: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that to
- 37:36Speaker 6: close out our conversation today. You've hinted about how Mike
- 37:40Speaker 6: McDonald might have a couple of tricks up this leeve
- 37:42Speaker 6: that he's been saving all season long for you know,
- 37:45Speaker 6: this moment in the year. I know if you mentioned
- 37:48Speaker 6: specifics you'll probably get in trouble.
- 37:50Speaker 2: So in general, though, what.
- 37:51Speaker 6: Do you what what should we expect that we haven't
- 37:55Speaker 6: seen before?
- 37:56Speaker 8: Nick even worry all over, maybe in the middle of
- 37:59Speaker 8: the defense more than he's been. He's mainly been on
- 38:01Speaker 8: the edge, including in his defensive end cameo, but he's
- 38:05Speaker 8: mostly been on the edge. Think about his blitzing from
- 38:07Speaker 8: outside slot corner. He may be more of an inside lineback.
- 38:14Speaker 8: He's done inside linebacker with Ernest Jones is the only two.
- 38:17Speaker 1: Off the ball.
- 38:17Speaker 8: Guys, I think you're gonna see Devin Witherspoon blitz more.
- 38:21Speaker 8: He hasn't blitzed a lot this year, but because some
- 38:24Speaker 8: of that's because of even Waror's presence. But you may
- 38:27Speaker 8: see them switch and have the Witherspoon blitz and even
- 38:30Speaker 8: Worriy come off the line and play a little more
- 38:32Speaker 8: coverage than he's been doing. And they still have this
- 38:36Speaker 8: wild card as they keep mixing a match. And now
- 38:38Speaker 8: the new wildcard is three cornerbacks rotating them. Rieke Woad
- 38:42Speaker 8: will come in at times and be the outside corner
- 38:44Speaker 8: with Witherspoon. Other drives it'll be job in Witherspoon. Other
- 38:48Speaker 8: drives it'll be Woolen and job. I think you might
- 38:52Speaker 8: see more dying tomorrow night, and if they go dine,
- 38:56Speaker 8: Kyrien Williams might have thirty carries. That's how McVeigh answers
- 39:01Speaker 8: sub packages, nickel and dime. He runs and he tries
- 39:05Speaker 8: to take you out of nickel and dimes so he
- 39:07Speaker 8: can throw again. And he's got to back Hian Williams
- 39:10Speaker 8: and an offensive line that can get guys out of
- 39:12Speaker 8: sub packages. The problem is Seahwks never get out of
- 39:14Speaker 8: sub packages. They play him ninety percent of the time.
- 39:17Speaker 8: So because they have Emon Worry as basically a linebacker
- 39:21Speaker 8: sometimes even a defensive end, McDonald's not going to get
- 39:25Speaker 8: out of nickel and dime because of Eemon Worry. And
- 39:28Speaker 8: that's gonna So there's this chess game within the chess
- 39:31Speaker 8: game that mcvay' is not used to. He's not used
- 39:34Speaker 8: to running team, not being able to run teams out
- 39:36Speaker 8: of nickel and dime, but Seattle's not getting.
- 39:39Speaker 1: Out of it.
- 39:40Speaker 8: That's the fascinating stuff I'm looking for tomorrow is how
- 39:44Speaker 8: much Eman Warrior's on the field, how much Woolen and
- 39:47Speaker 8: even Warrior on the field, and how much that gives
- 39:50Speaker 8: Mike McDonald all kinds of options between coverages and blitzes.
- 39:54Speaker 6: Greg Bell are Seahawks Insider roundtable tomorrow. I mean it's
- 39:57Speaker 6: pretty big game. I mean the invitation is open to
- 40:00Speaker 6: come down here and be in studio with us tomorrow.
- 40:02Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 40:02Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just letting you know I might have to.
- 40:05Speaker 8: Do that if I don't need an arc to get downtown.
- 40:09Speaker 1: It's by the way, I feel.
- 40:11Speaker 8: Really, I hope some of you listening aren't in the
- 40:13Speaker 8: way of the waters and the levees breaking and the
- 40:16Speaker 8: pictures from down south in the Auburn Ken area and
- 40:20Speaker 8: hearts out to those people. That's it's been wild stuff.
- 40:24Speaker 1: Yeah, looking forward tomorrow.
- 40:25Speaker 8: And you know you always tease me that I always
- 40:28Speaker 8: say that these aren't big game.
- 40:30Speaker 1: This is a big game. Yeah, that's a regular season game.
- 40:32Speaker 7: Go, this is a big this is huge.
- 40:34Speaker 2: All right, man, Well we'll talk to you tomorrow.
- 40:37Speaker 1: All right, Happy Wednesday? Thanks all right.
- 40:38Speaker 6: Greg Bell our Seahawks Insider Again the Newstribune dot com
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- 41:15Speaker 6: Some NFL news and notes on the other side, some
- 41:18Speaker 6: really interesting stuff happening around the league. Sports Radio ninety
- 41:21Speaker 6: three point three KJRFM. Biggest game of the year, Bason,
- 41:24Speaker 6: doesn't mean it's going to be the biggest game of
- 41:26Speaker 6: the regular season. That forty nine Ers game still looms,
- 41:30Speaker 6: and so that might end up being the biggest game
- 41:32Speaker 6: of the year to close out the regular season. But
- 41:35Speaker 6: for right now, what's in front of us, this thing
- 41:38Speaker 6: is huge. And I've been saying now for several weeks
- 41:42Speaker 6: that I thought the Seahawks outplayed the Los Angeles Rams
- 41:46Speaker 6: the last time that they met, and the only difference
- 41:49Speaker 6: was that the Rams won the game twenty one to nineteen.
- 41:53Speaker 6: I mean, that's what it's about, is winning the game.
- 41:55Speaker 6: So I gave them credit for winning the game, but
- 41:59Speaker 6: I went back to my oats from that contest, and
- 42:01Speaker 6: I have all sorts of notes, and the very last
- 42:04Speaker 6: thing that I wrote on the page Rams twenty one
- 42:08Speaker 6: Seahawks nineteen great game underlined and then I.
- 42:12Speaker 2: Wrote, We're better. That's what I wrote right there.
- 42:15Speaker 6: And I do believe that, and I look at the
- 42:19Speaker 6: numbers and that game, the Seahawks had twenty six first
- 42:23Speaker 6: downs to the Rams twelve more than twice. We had
- 42:28Speaker 6: seventy nine total plays to their fifty. We kept the
- 42:31Speaker 6: ball for thirty eight minutes to their twenty two. Matt Stafford,
- 42:36Speaker 6: who's been the MVP of the season to this point
- 42:39Speaker 6: in the year, you gonna have your Drake May to me,
- 42:41Speaker 6: Matt Stafford's been the MVP of the National Football League.
- 42:44Speaker 6: Mike McDonald's defense held him to one hundred and thirty
- 42:47Speaker 6: passing yards. Sam Darnold had two hundred and seventy nine
- 42:52Speaker 6: that day. I mean, that is just that's just working
- 42:55Speaker 6: them four hundred and fourteen yards to two hundred and
- 42:58Speaker 6: forty nine. We were seven for sixteen on third down,
- 43:02Speaker 6: they were two for eleven. I mean, those statistics said
- 43:05Speaker 6: that we should Those statistics say that we should have
- 43:08Speaker 6: won the game by fourteen to fifteen points, yeah, against
- 43:11Speaker 6: the Los Angeles Rams, and yet we lost by two.
- 43:14Speaker 2: That was the Sam Donald interception game. That was for interceptions.
- 43:19Speaker 6: That's the cliche that we're not allowed to use on
- 43:21Speaker 6: Fridays when we preview a game that, no matter how
- 43:25Speaker 6: well it might go, if you lose a turnover battle
- 43:28Speaker 6: four to one against a good team that is well coached,
- 43:31Speaker 6: you're probably going to lose that football game, no matter
- 43:34Speaker 6: how much better that you play than them. But the
- 43:37Speaker 6: numbers all suggest that on the road, the Seahawks were
- 43:40Speaker 6: the better team that day. The difference is that the
- 43:43Speaker 6: Rams came away with the victory. And so you know,
- 43:46Speaker 6: here we sat with a chance for a little bit
- 43:48Speaker 6: of revenge. I realized that weather is going to play
- 43:50Speaker 6: a factor and that that could, you know, certainly alter
- 43:53Speaker 6: the game, may lead to even more turnovers from Sam Darnald.
- 43:56Speaker 6: But I'm just gonna say it, this is reckless at breakfast, right,
- 43:59Speaker 6: we lose the turnover battle, we are winning this game
- 44:02Speaker 6: tomorrow and we are winning.
- 44:03Speaker 7: The NFC West. Well, there's a good chance.
- 44:07Speaker 4: I mean, obviously you can't do it the way that
- 44:08Speaker 4: you did last game, and I wouldn't expect that to
- 44:11Speaker 4: be the case, I wouldn't expect Sam Darnold to turn it.
- 44:14Speaker 7: Over four times. And yeah, I think that you're right there.
- 44:17Speaker 4: I mean I think on any given day, I think
- 44:19Speaker 4: either one of these teams, this is one of those
- 44:21Speaker 4: coin flips to me of which team's gonna win. Now,
- 44:23Speaker 4: you got to go out ex execute game plan. You
- 44:26Speaker 4: obviously can't be giving them, you know, I think what
- 44:28Speaker 4: it was the first interception ended up where they ran
- 44:31Speaker 4: it back to the three yard line. I mean, so
- 44:33Speaker 4: that was an immediate advantage rams right there. And like
- 44:37Speaker 4: you said, when you come out on the end and
- 44:38Speaker 4: you're just lost by two, you can find one or
- 44:41Speaker 4: two plays, just two of those interceptions, and you're probably
- 44:45Speaker 4: going to end up winning that ball game because two
- 44:47Speaker 4: of them gave them a short field that they ended
- 44:49Speaker 4: up scoring touchdowns on. So I think that, yeah, you
- 44:53Speaker 4: go out there and play the game. If everything was
- 44:54Speaker 4: the same, right, like, you play the same game you
- 44:57Speaker 4: played last time, they played the same game they played.
- 45:00Speaker 7: You just don't turn it over four times.
- 45:02Speaker 4: You can still cough it up once possibly or twice
- 45:05Speaker 4: you end up winning that ball game. That said is
- 45:07Speaker 4: both teams are going to make the adjustments. This is
- 45:09Speaker 4: The beauty of it to me is that they hired
- 45:12Speaker 4: Mike McDonald to figure out the Sean McVay thing and
- 45:15Speaker 4: the Shanahan thing. He seems like he did it last game,
- 45:19Speaker 4: just didn't come out on the winning edge of it.
- 45:20Speaker 7: Now you got to figure out a way to come
- 45:21Speaker 7: out on the win too.
- 45:22Speaker 9: And that's the one thing that we heard so many
- 45:24Speaker 9: times after that loss, right, is oh, if only they
- 45:27Speaker 9: would have turned it over only three times, like they
- 45:30Speaker 9: really would have had a they probably would have won
- 45:32Speaker 9: the game if they would have only had three turnovers.
- 45:34Speaker 9: And so I do agree, it'll be interesting to see
- 45:38Speaker 9: just how well Sam can perform and how much weather
- 45:42Speaker 9: is a factor.
- 45:42Speaker 6: And all, I'm perfectly willing to lose a turnover battle
- 45:47Speaker 6: every single week by one turnover if it means that
- 45:51Speaker 6: my quarterback is playing confidently and is dropping back and
- 45:56Speaker 6: zipping the.
- 45:56Speaker 10: Ball, and it sure seemed like he was in that
- 45:58Speaker 10: first game.
- 45:59Speaker 6: And look, as many turnovers as Sam Donald has committed
- 46:02Speaker 6: this year, I don't want to trade the way that
- 46:04Speaker 6: he's played to get those turnovers back.
- 46:08Speaker 2: I just don't.
- 46:08Speaker 6: I think that it's been a far We've benefited far
- 46:12Speaker 6: more in Seattle from Sam Donald's aggressive play than what
- 46:16Speaker 6: we've been hurt by it. On that particular day, there
- 46:19Speaker 6: was no getting around it. Sam Donald cost the Seahawks
- 46:22Speaker 6: the game against the Los Angeles Rams because it was
- 46:25Speaker 6: minus three. Yeah, I mean, there wasn't a time where
- 46:29Speaker 6: I mean, certainly Mike Holmgren tried to rein in Brett Favre.
- 46:33Speaker 6: We don't want to lose the turnover battle by two
- 46:37Speaker 6: turnovers or more every game because you've decided to go
- 46:40Speaker 6: out here and think you can throw passes through brick
- 46:43Speaker 6: walls and have them come out on the other side
- 46:45Speaker 6: in Sterling Sharp's hands.
- 46:47Speaker 2: He had to rein that in, but he never reined
- 46:50Speaker 2: it into the point that he wanted.
- 46:52Speaker 6: To take the fire out of the stallion. And that,
- 46:55Speaker 6: to me is what we're dealing with with Sam Donald.
- 46:58Speaker 6: You can't lose the turnover battle by minus three. You
- 47:02Speaker 6: can't turn the ball over four times against quality teams.
- 47:05Speaker 6: You can't even turn the ball over four times against
- 47:08Speaker 6: bad teams.
- 47:08Speaker 2: In this league.
- 47:10Speaker 6: And yet I don't want you to change the thing
- 47:12Speaker 6: you play the way that you've been playing, because I
- 47:15Speaker 6: think we're gonna benefit a lot more from aggressive Sam Darnold,
- 47:19Speaker 6: Even living with a turnover or two tomorrow night, than
- 47:24Speaker 6: we are if he comes out and we just try
- 47:26Speaker 6: to establish the run all day and Sam plays a
- 47:28Speaker 6: game where he's trying to avoid.
- 47:30Speaker 7: Interceptions, I mean, yeah, you don't want him play and scared.
- 47:32Speaker 7: I agree with you on that.
- 47:33Speaker 4: I think not all turnovers are created the same, right,
- 47:36Speaker 4: You can't. Don't be going down there and doing what
- 47:39Speaker 4: we watched Gino do the last couple of years, which
- 47:40Speaker 4: is when you got points on the board, throwing erratic
- 47:45Speaker 4: passes or unadvised passes, and don't do it when you're
- 47:48Speaker 4: backed up against your own goal line where all of
- 47:50Speaker 4: a sudden they have a three yards to score a
- 47:52Speaker 4: touchdown or they get the ball to twenty five.
- 47:53Speaker 7: That's going to equate to trouble too.
- 47:55Speaker 4: But you still want to be that gunslinger and then
- 47:57Speaker 4: understand when is the time that you just can't the gunslinger?
- 48:00Speaker 7: All right?
- 48:01Speaker 2: Coming up next?
- 48:03Speaker 6: If this is a win tomorrow, I was asked this
- 48:06Speaker 6: question yesterday on our airwaves. Does that mean it's a
- 48:08Speaker 6: super Bowl or bust season for the Seahawks. We'll discuss
- 48:12Speaker 6: it on Chucking Buck Sports Radio ninety three point three
- 48:14Speaker 6: kJ RFM, Frida eight o'clock our here on this humpday.
- 48:32Speaker 6: We still will green Jacket draft, will preview the college
- 48:35Speaker 6: football playoff coming up in a little bit. Also, we
- 48:38Speaker 6: talked some NBA expansion that news coming out to yesterday
- 48:42Speaker 6: from Adam Silver as he was there present for the
- 48:47Speaker 6: NBA Cup, which is an awesome event.
- 48:52Speaker 9: It's maybe one of the better events any sports league's
- 48:54Speaker 9: ever come up with in the way they do that
- 48:57Speaker 9: in season chairman, I love it other games and then
- 49:01Speaker 9: they get so into it that they paint those immaculate floors.
- 49:05Speaker 2: Right that aren't gaudy at all.
- 49:08Speaker 10: Don't make me want to close my eyes.
- 49:10Speaker 6: Yeah, don't give us a headache when we watch. It's
- 49:14Speaker 6: an awesome event. Keep doing it, Adam Silver. Everything you
- 49:18Speaker 6: touch turns to gold.
- 49:22Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 49:22Speaker 10: Yeah, you're not even remotely alien.
- 49:24Speaker 2: Like, right right.
- 49:27Speaker 6: The NBA Cup was a brilliant idea from a brilliant man.
- 49:32Speaker 2: Bravoser, brav you are on a roll. Keep the good
- 49:36Speaker 2: ideas coming. This statement was not red.
- 49:42Speaker 6: So yes, we did get some news on that front
- 49:45Speaker 6: that a decision will be made in the year twenty
- 49:48Speaker 6: twenty six in regards to expansion. He's not going to
- 49:51Speaker 6: put Vegas and Seattle through that any longer. So we'll
- 49:55Speaker 6: talk about that a little bit later on in the hour,
- 49:57Speaker 6: start to get into it. But of course, we have
- 49:59Speaker 6: a monstrous football game that's going to take place tomorrow.
- 50:03Speaker 6: I was asked on our very airwaves yesterday that if
- 50:08Speaker 6: this turns out to be a victory tomorrow, does it
- 50:12Speaker 6: turn into a super Bowl or bust.
- 50:16Speaker 2: Season for the Seattle Seahawks.
- 50:19Speaker 6: I hadn't even given that any thought, just kind of
- 50:22Speaker 6: had to come up with an answer on the spot.
- 50:24Speaker 6: But my immediate reaction was no. And I do think
- 50:28Speaker 6: that there are teams that do face that. I think
- 50:31Speaker 6: that there are teams out there that super Bowl or busts.
- 50:33Speaker 6: I think the Kansas City Chiefs have won so much.
- 50:37Speaker 6: I don't think that finishing runner up or making it
- 50:40Speaker 6: to the semifinals of the AFC is satisfying for them.
- 50:44Speaker 6: It probably is good if the Chiefs are on decline
- 50:48Speaker 6: that they're busting out right now. I think it's given
- 50:51Speaker 6: them a clear indication that, you know, we just can't
- 50:55Speaker 6: just adjust a few things. We probably do need to
- 50:58Speaker 6: make some serious change roster wise, maybe even coaching staff
- 51:03Speaker 6: wise going forward. I think that has forced them into
- 51:06Speaker 6: a situation where hey, we win super Bowls around here,
- 51:10Speaker 6: and if we're not even close, we gotta reconvene. We
- 51:14Speaker 6: got to gather up, and we got to try to
- 51:16Speaker 6: see what it takes to get back on that path.
- 51:19Speaker 6: I think the Buffalo Bills are a super Bowl or
- 51:21Speaker 6: bust kind of team. I think that the Buffalo Bills
- 51:25Speaker 6: don't win the Super Bowl this year, especially with the
- 51:27Speaker 6: Chiefs not in their path and potentially Lamar Jackson not
- 51:33Speaker 6: in their path and Joe Burrow not in their path.
- 51:36Speaker 6: If Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills don't win the
- 51:39Speaker 6: championship this year, then that mountain toward the championship looks
- 51:44Speaker 6: even larger.
- 51:45Speaker 2: Next season.
- 51:46Speaker 6: The climb looks even steeper, the challenge looks even more daunting,
- 51:51Speaker 6: the pressure gets even greater on them, the weight and
- 51:54Speaker 6: their backpacks as they climb that ill gets even heavier,
- 51:58Speaker 6: and so for them, I think, I think it's boom
- 52:00Speaker 6: or bust. I think that anything short of a Super
- 52:04Speaker 6: Bowl championship for Buffalo this year is a disaster. It's
- 52:08Speaker 6: a failure, and I don't like saying that. You know,
- 52:10Speaker 6: I think that a lot of fan bases get into
- 52:12Speaker 6: this habit of if we don't win a championship, anything
- 52:14Speaker 6: about a championship's a failure. I don't see that being
- 52:17Speaker 6: the case, and I don't see that being the case
- 52:19Speaker 6: with the Seahawks either. I think that they're ahead of
- 52:21Speaker 6: schedule and the Mike McDonald era. I think that they
- 52:26Speaker 6: win this they get home field advantage, they got a
- 52:28Speaker 6: good chance to get into the super Bowl. But no
- 52:31Speaker 6: matter how this thing ends this year, sure it can
- 52:35Speaker 6: have the taste of disappointment, but I think that you
- 52:39Speaker 6: start next season feeling like, man, we might be the
- 52:42Speaker 6: team to beat.
- 52:43Speaker 2: I think it's a growth period for them.
- 52:45Speaker 6: Even if you lose your last game of the year
- 52:48Speaker 6: this year, I think this has been a highly successful
- 52:51Speaker 6: year and it points in such a positive direction for
- 52:54Speaker 6: this team that No, I don't think this is a
- 52:56Speaker 6: super Bowl or bust season for this football team.
- 53:00Speaker 4: I don't think it's a super Bowl or bus team either.
- 53:02Speaker 4: I mean a season for this team. I think the
- 53:04Speaker 4: team very likely could go all the way. To me,
- 53:08Speaker 4: I think there's you know, when you're just talking about
- 53:10Speaker 4: some of the teams Kansas City, I think theirs is
- 53:13Speaker 4: legitimately win the Super Bowl, or it's not what we
- 53:16Speaker 4: think we're capable of.
- 53:17Speaker 7: I think they're the only team that probably has a
- 53:19Speaker 7: win Super Bowl.
- 53:19Speaker 4: I think Buffalo Bills would be like a they need
- 53:22Speaker 4: to get there, especially now that they don't have Mahomes
- 53:25Speaker 4: in the way, which has been the bugaboo and then
- 53:27Speaker 4: the occasional burrow or one time burrow and that them
- 53:30Speaker 4: jumping up there and sniper and knocking.
- 53:33Speaker 7: The Chiefs off that pedestal.
- 53:35Speaker 4: I think this is the best opportunity for them, and
- 53:38Speaker 4: yet I don't see. I think maybe the Rams might
- 53:41Speaker 4: be the next closest thing, but that's because they have
- 53:43Speaker 4: won one recently, and they have a veteran quarterback and
- 53:47Speaker 4: aging quarterback. They kind of that's not a new coach.
- 53:50Speaker 4: They know who they are, they know what they bring
- 53:52Speaker 4: to the table. They feel probably coming into the season, hey,
- 53:56Speaker 4: let's do what we got to do and see how
- 53:58Speaker 4: maybe some of the bounces go here and there, and
- 54:01Speaker 4: if we find ourselves, you know, up there in the
- 54:03Speaker 4: top of the NFC. You know, we feel like we
- 54:06Speaker 4: have a good as good of a chance as anybody
- 54:08Speaker 4: else in the NFC to get to the Super Bowl.
- 54:10Speaker 4: But I don't know for sure if they're even in
- 54:12Speaker 4: that category that I would put the Chiefs prior to
- 54:15Speaker 4: the season starting of it's win it all or not.
- 54:17Speaker 7: I think this.
- 54:18Speaker 4: I think the Seahawks, it could a lot could weigh
- 54:20Speaker 4: in how the next three games go of whether or
- 54:24Speaker 4: not this is a I think this team, no matter
- 54:26Speaker 4: how the next three games go, is going to be
- 54:28Speaker 4: in the playoffs, and they're they're going to be a
- 54:31Speaker 4: dangerous team because of how good that defense is, even
- 54:33Speaker 4: if they have to go on the road. We've seen
- 54:34Speaker 4: under Mike McDonald the going on the road doesn't seem
- 54:37Speaker 4: to be a giant issue now.
- 54:38Speaker 7: Going on the.
- 54:39Speaker 4: Road in whether during in January against playoff caliber teams
- 54:45Speaker 4: is a different thing than going to New Orleans, you know,
- 54:48Speaker 4: for a game or something along those lines. So to me,
- 54:51Speaker 4: I think that the Seattle I think the Seahawks have
- 54:53Speaker 4: played themselves with three weeks left to the end of
- 54:55Speaker 4: the season into I could legitimately see how in the
- 54:59Speaker 4: next two weeks we're talking about this is the best
- 55:02Speaker 4: team in the NFL possibly and so getting to the
- 55:04Speaker 4: super Bowl. Anything less than that could be disappointing, but
- 55:07Speaker 4: not necessarily bust.
- 55:08Speaker 7: And winning the super Bowl is a whole different ball game.
- 55:10Speaker 4: I don't think there's anybody that's left in the equation
- 55:13Speaker 4: that should be thinking, if we don't win the super.
- 55:15Speaker 7: Bowl, it's a failed season.
- 55:17Speaker 4: I just I think there's really one team and that's
- 55:19Speaker 4: Kansasy Chiefs that maybe should have even Buffalo in that.
- 55:23Speaker 6: Yeah, I put Buffalo in that because if Buffalo doesn't
- 55:26Speaker 6: win it this year, like I said, everything looks more
- 55:28Speaker 6: difficult for them, and I think Sean McDermott does get fired.
- 55:31Speaker 6: I think that they would get to the end of
- 55:33Speaker 6: the season and say where can't win it With Sean McDermott.
- 55:36Speaker 4: If they got to no super Bowls and lost the
- 55:38Speaker 4: super Bowl, you think they'd fire him. Maybe not, that's
- 55:42Speaker 4: still a step, that's still a step in the direction.
- 55:44Speaker 4: That's why I mean, I don't think there's is win
- 55:46Speaker 4: the super Bowl. Let's get to the super Bowl.
- 55:48Speaker 6: Or I would bet you that Buffalo is really rethinking
- 55:51Speaker 6: how they built the roster.
- 55:52Speaker 2: I guarantee you.
- 55:54Speaker 6: I won't guarantee it if they made it to the
- 55:55Speaker 6: super Bowl, but even if they lost to the super Bowl,
- 55:59Speaker 6: I think Sean McDermott's jobs and I think this might
- 56:01Speaker 6: be his last chance to try to pull the show
- 56:04Speaker 6: that he's the guy he's facing a lot of criticism
- 56:07Speaker 6: this year and he for wasting Josh Allen's prime. And
- 56:13Speaker 6: I think for sure the general manager is on blast, like,
- 56:16Speaker 6: get the guy some damn weapons, you.
- 56:18Speaker 2: Know what I mean? Weapons? Ye, so James Cooks a weapon.
- 56:21Speaker 6: But I do believe that they would do some serious
- 56:24Speaker 6: soul searching and make serious changes where comparing that to
- 56:28Speaker 6: the Seahawks, they could lose their last three games. Mike
- 56:33Speaker 6: McDonald's our head coach next year, John Schneider is our
- 56:35Speaker 6: general manager. Sam Donald's our quarterback. Jsn's our number one receiver,
- 56:41Speaker 6: and everybody in the organization feels like they are ahead
- 56:44Speaker 6: of schedule.
- 56:45Speaker 2: And are Yeah.
- 56:46Speaker 6: I mean, if you lost all three, that would be
- 56:48Speaker 6: a crutching way in this season, not even making the playoffs.
- 56:52Speaker 2: I'm not really even entertaining that scenario.
- 56:55Speaker 6: But even if you lost your last game, no matter
- 56:58Speaker 6: when it occurs, I think the Seahawks feel like, man, we.
- 57:02Speaker 2: Are on a great path right now versus Buffalo.
- 57:06Speaker 6: I think they could win, lose the Super Bowl and
- 57:09Speaker 6: still consider getting rid of their coach, making some major
- 57:13Speaker 6: changes to the roster and so forth.
- 57:15Speaker 9: Well, and I think a lot of it has to
- 57:16Speaker 9: do with the expectations going into the season, Right, Buffalo
- 57:19Speaker 9: was expected to win twelve thirteen something games. Right, they
- 57:23Speaker 9: were expected to do really well. And so as now
- 57:27Speaker 9: you have no, you don't have the Chiefs to deal
- 57:29Speaker 9: with your super Bowl or bust plans kind of got
- 57:33Speaker 9: bust here, really right, Your.
- 57:36Speaker 2: It's definitely changed the equation.
- 57:37Speaker 9: Yeah, your expectations are higher and if you don't at
- 57:40Speaker 9: least make it to the super Bowl because now you
- 57:41Speaker 9: don't have the Chiefs to knock you out, I mean
- 57:44Speaker 9: that's what their fans are thinking.
- 57:46Speaker 10: I'm sure.
- 57:46Speaker 9: Whereas the Seahawks, I think you've now put yourself into
- 57:49Speaker 9: the playoffs or bust. If you don't make the playoffs
- 57:52Speaker 9: at this point, people are going to be really mad.
- 57:54Speaker 2: I give you that.
- 57:55Speaker 9: But as far as super Bowl or bust, now, now
- 57:58Speaker 9: coming through this season and surprise kind of that we've
- 58:01Speaker 9: had of how well this team has done, I think
- 58:04Speaker 9: you go into next year and you're you're now going
- 58:07Speaker 9: to be really looking at that, is it a possible
- 58:09Speaker 9: super Bowl or bust ahead of going into next season
- 58:13Speaker 9: just because you've had this success And now this is
- 58:15Speaker 9: Mike McDonald. That would be Mike McDonald's third year now
- 58:18Speaker 9: your expectations are a whole lot higher.
- 58:19Speaker 6: But I think right now I having having this season
- 58:22Speaker 6: and then you start next year, Yeah, it is I
- 58:24Speaker 6: don't know if it's Super Bowl or bust, but.
- 58:26Speaker 9: It's an expectation of at least to the NFC Championship.
- 58:30Speaker 6: Where yeah, this is you're you're you're getting the team together,
- 58:33Speaker 6: and it is we're winning.
- 58:34Speaker 7: The Super Bowl.
- 58:35Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, that's that's going to be your start to
- 58:38Speaker 6: next season.
- 58:39Speaker 2: You're right.
- 58:39Speaker 6: If you collapse completely and somehow statistically marvelously don't make
- 58:44Speaker 6: the playoffs, uh that that would be crushing. Yeah, considering
- 58:48Speaker 6: where you are at this point, and then maybe there
- 58:50Speaker 6: is a little bit of of soul searching. But assuming
- 58:53Speaker 6: you make the playoffs, which means you've got to win
- 58:55Speaker 6: one of your next three games.
- 58:57Speaker 2: After that point you lose, I still.
- 59:00Speaker 6: Think that you're feeling awesome going into the offseason about
- 59:04Speaker 6: the direction that you're in. But you're right, the expectations
- 59:07Speaker 6: at the beginning of next year, they're ratcheted up, and
- 59:10Speaker 6: that's what you want. You want the expectations, and I
- 59:14Speaker 6: think that they're like, bring them all on. I think
- 59:16Speaker 6: that that's where the organization is right now.
- 59:19Speaker 2: But I do think.
- 59:20Speaker 6: I mean, Baltimore Ravens, they're a team that if they
- 59:24Speaker 6: don't somehow get into the playoffs.
- 59:26Speaker 2: This year, a massive disappointment.
- 59:27Speaker 6: Massive disappointment, and I think they entertain some changes organizationally
- 59:34Speaker 6: this offseason. I don't think they would take that lightly
- 59:36Speaker 6: in Baltimore. Pittsburgh right now is obviously going through something
- 59:41Speaker 6: where I don't know if it's Super Bowl or bust,
- 59:44Speaker 6: but they're I mean, they are booing one of the
- 59:47Speaker 6: most successful destined for the Hall of Fame head coaches.
- 59:50Speaker 6: They're chanting fire Tomlin every single home game for three
- 59:54Speaker 6: quarters at a time. So obviously Pittsburgh's going through a
- 59:58Speaker 6: little bit of do we have to kind of shake
- 1:00:01Speaker 6: things up? Do we have to change things up this offseason?
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: Where I don't.
- 1:00:05Speaker 6: See the Seahawks being a part of that conversation whatsoever,
- 1:00:09Speaker 6: barring we go zero to three and somehow don't miss
- 1:00:12Speaker 6: don't make the playoffs.
- 1:00:14Speaker 4: Yeah, which is I mean, there have to be some
- 1:00:16Speaker 4: crazy opposite of a miracle that would have to happen.
- 1:00:19Speaker 7: So I mean, I'm with you on that.
- 1:00:20Speaker 4: I mean, I just think that right now, you're sitting
- 1:00:22Speaker 4: in year two of Mike McDonald and you're feeling good
- 1:00:25Speaker 4: about it. You're feeling great about it, okay, and then
- 1:00:27Speaker 4: you have a giant game coming tomorrow, another big game,
- 1:00:31Speaker 4: another important game against a team that's shooting for a
- 1:00:34Speaker 4: playoff spot in the Carolina Panthers. And then you're the
- 1:00:37Speaker 4: final one where you book in the season against the Niners,
- 1:00:40Speaker 4: who you know, one of your division rivals and they're
- 1:00:43Speaker 4: fighting for a spot in the playoffs as well. I mean,
- 1:00:45Speaker 4: I think that right now, it's like playoff football starting.
- 1:00:47Speaker 4: It starts tomorrow for the Seahawks, and it's one of
- 1:00:49Speaker 4: those you've got to go out and play your style
- 1:00:51Speaker 4: of football, right and we know.
- 1:00:53Speaker 7: What it is.
- 1:00:53Speaker 4: This isn't we're getting towards the end of the season.
- 1:00:56Speaker 4: This defense is going to keep team in the game.
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: You're going to keep your team in the game. The
- 1:01:02Speaker 4: offense can be absolutely potent. I mean they're you look
- 1:01:06Speaker 4: at all their different numbers and they're tops in the
- 1:01:09Speaker 4: leagues and like points per play, so basically they can
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: strike and they can strike quick. And then sometimes what
- 1:01:14Speaker 4: we basically talked about multiple times throughout the show today,
- 1:01:17Speaker 4: they revert back to. But we got to make sure
- 1:01:19Speaker 4: they know we'll still just grind it out on them.
- 1:01:22Speaker 4: Well yeah, or you could just keep hitting JSN who's
- 1:01:24Speaker 4: uncoverable apparently, and just keep You know, now you're finally
- 1:01:28Speaker 4: getting a rapport with Rashi Jied. Those two and Cooper
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: Cup can be a nice little blanket that, you know,
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: for a third down conversion here and there. I think
- 1:01:36Speaker 4: that the team needs to just figure out, this is
- 1:01:38Speaker 4: what our identity is, and regardless of how they do that,
- 1:01:42Speaker 4: we know that this team now is heading in the
- 1:01:44Speaker 4: right direction, that you've got the coach you want. If
- 1:01:47Speaker 4: people want to doubt Sam Darnold whether or not he's
- 1:01:49Speaker 4: your franchise guy, well he's your franchise guy this year.
- 1:01:52Speaker 4: You're riding or dying with him right now. I don't
- 1:01:54Speaker 4: think he's going anywhere next year unless for some reason
- 1:01:57Speaker 4: you got in on a borough sweepstakes. Be the only
- 1:02:00Speaker 4: thing you think you're upgrade, and otherwise you're not drafting
- 1:02:03Speaker 4: the quarterback and replacing Sam Darnolds. I think you could
- 1:02:06Speaker 4: have some roster shakeup, you know, some places on the line.
- 1:02:10Speaker 4: Possibly who knows what they're thinking with Ken Walker. I mean,
- 1:02:13Speaker 4: maybe he just isn't Maybe he isn't the guy that's
- 1:02:15Speaker 4: supposed to be toting.
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: The Rockets anyway.
- 1:02:17Speaker 4: Ken Walker's back here next Yeah, well he's on the
- 1:02:19Speaker 4: end last year of his contract, so you're going to
- 1:02:21Speaker 4: have some roster movement.
- 1:02:22Speaker 7: But everybody has roster movement.
- 1:02:23Speaker 4: I think in general, though, the point of they know
- 1:02:26Speaker 4: who they are, they know what they got, and they
- 1:02:28Speaker 4: are happy with where they're at. That doesn't change in
- 1:02:31Speaker 4: the slightest if they don't get to and or win
- 1:02:34Speaker 4: the Super Bowl.
- 1:02:34Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 1:02:35Speaker 6: I think the Chargers are a similar team to the Seahawks.
- 1:02:38Speaker 6: Second year of a new coaching regime. Showed progress in
- 1:02:41Speaker 6: the first year, showed even more progress in the second year.
- 1:02:45Speaker 6: Looks like they are destined for the playoffs. If they
- 1:02:48Speaker 6: crash and burn somehow before the end of the season, sure,
- 1:02:51Speaker 6: that's going to be crushingly disappointing. But I think that
- 1:02:54Speaker 6: the Los Angeles Chargers would get to the end of
- 1:02:56Speaker 6: the year and say to themselves, love our head coach,
- 1:03:00Speaker 6: love our quarterback. He's still young and maybe in and
- 1:03:06Speaker 6: is in his prime right now. Man, if we would
- 1:03:09Speaker 6: add just healthier offensive lineman this this this season, who
- 1:03:14Speaker 6: knows what we could have accomplished this year. But I
- 1:03:16Speaker 6: think that that's a similar story to what the Seahawks
- 1:03:20Speaker 6: are operating the Chargers. No matter how they lost in
- 1:03:23Speaker 6: the playoffs, I still think that they're celebrating their season
- 1:03:28Speaker 6: and feeling like, man, we are just scratching the surface.
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: Fellas. Let you know, next year we went it off.
- 1:03:34Speaker 6: Just as Ashley said, I think that that's the start
- 1:03:36Speaker 6: of the Chargers season next year.
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: Yeah, you always put on the bulletin bore.
- 1:03:40Speaker 6: We're not going to eliminate any kind of goal like
- 1:03:43Speaker 6: the super Bowl.
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: We're here to win the Super Bowl.
- 1:03:45Speaker 6: Right, But I don't know if you really believed that
- 1:03:49Speaker 6: when the season started, if you're the se if you're
- 1:03:51Speaker 6: a Seahawks fan or a Charger fan, or even somebody that's.
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: Inside the building.
- 1:03:55Speaker 6: Next year, though, that's what you're saying, and you are
- 1:03:58Speaker 6: meaning it, and it is on the chalk board for
- 1:04:00Speaker 6: a reason. You believe the progress you've made in two
- 1:04:03Speaker 6: years in this new regime, the quarterback that you have,
- 1:04:07Speaker 6: the things that you've learned, the roster adjustments that undoubtedly
- 1:04:11Speaker 6: every team will make to fine tune the product. You're
- 1:04:15Speaker 6: heading into next year feeling like we are a super
- 1:04:18Speaker 6: Bowl team and we will accept nothing else.
- 1:04:20Speaker 9: Yeah, we did those tiers at the beginning of the
- 1:04:21Speaker 9: season where we put every team in it, and the
- 1:04:23Speaker 9: Seahawks were I think that we decided, most of us
- 1:04:27Speaker 9: decided they were underestimated. We thought they were going to
- 1:04:30Speaker 9: be We know we're better than other people think we are.
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: Something along those lines.
- 1:04:33Speaker 9: Yeah, and I agree they are better than most people
- 1:04:37Speaker 9: I think thought they were at the beginning of the season.
- 1:04:39Speaker 9: And I think it would have been unrealistic for anyone
- 1:04:41Speaker 9: to have Super Bowl expectations going into Mike McDonald's second year.
- 1:04:45Speaker 9: Now it's been an awesome, wonderful, pleasant surprise to see
- 1:04:48Speaker 9: how well they've been doing. But yeah, there's no way
- 1:04:50Speaker 9: in hell you go into next season not having super
- 1:04:53Speaker 9: Bowl expectations.
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: In the meantime, why not win the Super Bowl?
- 1:04:56Speaker 10: Yeah, do it when nobody expected you to.
- 1:04:59Speaker 6: I was, I mean, I think I picked the Seahawks
- 1:05:01Speaker 6: to go twelve and five, which was pretty aggressive.
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe I said eleven and six with a chance
- 1:05:07Speaker 2: to go twelve and five.
- 1:05:08Speaker 6: Remember, given myself a win margin ones. Yeah, so I
- 1:05:13Speaker 6: had I had really high expectations, but even I did
- 1:05:17Speaker 6: not think at any moment the nation would be having.
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: The suggestion, is this the best team in the NFL.
- 1:05:25Speaker 6: Now, usually what they say in these national broadcasts, this
- 1:05:28Speaker 6: might be the best team in the NFC. You don't
- 1:05:31Speaker 6: hear them say a lot that this might be the
- 1:05:32Speaker 6: best team in the entire league.
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: But you've heard it all.
- 1:05:36Speaker 6: You've heard it every week, and man, during Sunday's broadcast,
- 1:05:39Speaker 6: you must have heard it fifteen times from the broadcast team,
- 1:05:43Speaker 6: that this might They're just throwing it in just casually.
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: Yeah, when we're on your face and what might be
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: the best team in the NFC.
- 1:05:49Speaker 6: I didn't think we were going to hear the nation
- 1:05:53Speaker 6: have that conversation about this year's version of the Seahawks.
- 1:05:57Speaker 6: But yeah, I think we are in that converse. And
- 1:06:00Speaker 6: part of it is that Philadelphia is not as good
- 1:06:03Speaker 6: as they were a year ago. And part of that
- 1:06:04Speaker 6: is Kansas City is not as good as they were
- 1:06:07Speaker 6: a year obviously, not as good as what they were
- 1:06:09Speaker 6: a year ago. Part of it is Baltimore's not the
- 1:06:11Speaker 6: team that we thought they were going to be. Part
- 1:06:13Speaker 6: of it is that the Broncos and Patriots have the
- 1:06:17Speaker 6: two best records in the National Football League. And I
- 1:06:19Speaker 6: don't think that I expected them to be in that
- 1:06:22Speaker 6: conversation either. But here we sit in year number two
- 1:06:27Speaker 6: of the Mike McDonald era, and we have had a
- 1:06:31Speaker 6: chunk of this season where not just local bias, but national.
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: Guys who are always.
- 1:06:38Speaker 6: Shy of giving Seattle the credit that they deserve have
- 1:06:43Speaker 6: entered them into the conversation as is this really the
- 1:06:46Speaker 6: best team in the league. I think that's an accomplishment
- 1:06:49Speaker 6: in its own right.
- 1:06:51Speaker 4: Oh, it's definitely an accomplishment in its own right. I think
- 1:06:53Speaker 4: this season in general, though, like you were, just kind
- 1:06:55Speaker 4: of outlying, is part of the reason why there's been
- 1:06:59Speaker 4: a lot of teams that have been kind of thrust
- 1:07:01Speaker 4: into that conversation.
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:07:02Speaker 4: The Rams were for a minute and it seemed like
- 1:07:04Speaker 4: they're for about four or five weeks. Whoever got that
- 1:07:07Speaker 4: Moniker bestowed upon them for the week leading up to it,
- 1:07:10Speaker 4: because how dominant their performance was and they're leading their division,
- 1:07:14Speaker 4: they would fall on their face. They would have a
- 1:07:17Speaker 4: backsliding moment to some degree. And I think it's in
- 1:07:19Speaker 4: large part because a lot of people don't believe that
- 1:07:22Speaker 4: Denver's for real, or that New England is for real,
- 1:07:25Speaker 4: and the second year of Drake Mayn's first year with
- 1:07:28Speaker 4: Brabel there, and because the Chiefs most certainly the Chiefs
- 1:07:31Speaker 4: and the Eagles, the two teams that were fighting it
- 1:07:33Speaker 4: out last year, they've fallen back. One's fallen out at
- 1:07:37Speaker 4: this point, the other one's fallen back. It allows to
- 1:07:40Speaker 4: where like Waitte sold these other teams, and I think
- 1:07:42Speaker 4: the Rams are basically the consensus right now, the favorite.
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: They're been the most consistent of all the teams.
- 1:07:48Speaker 7: And it's because they're good and because they're proven.
- 1:07:53Speaker 4: Bo It's like now Buffalo coming back and beating New
- 1:07:56Speaker 4: England all of a sudden thrust them back into the conversation.
- 1:07:59Speaker 7: A little bit more.
- 1:08:00Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so now all of a sudden, you're
- 1:08:02Speaker 4: getting back into if the it's just say, I don't
- 1:08:04Speaker 4: know how the whole thing's shake out across the board,
- 1:08:06Speaker 4: but if it just shakes out the way it is
- 1:08:08Speaker 4: kind of right now, or Buffalo ends up tight or
- 1:08:10Speaker 4: winning the the uh their division, if you end up
- 1:08:15Speaker 4: seeing that, I think most people.
- 1:08:16Speaker 7: Are gonna be like I can see it being the
- 1:08:17Speaker 7: Rams and the.
- 1:08:19Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills in the Super Bowl because of the provenness
- 1:08:21Speaker 4: and who they have at the quarterback position.
- 1:08:23Speaker 7: It's something that more people believe in.
- 1:08:25Speaker 6: To me, it's all signs point to Seattle versus the
- 1:08:28Speaker 6: Jaguars for the Super Bowl.
- 1:08:30Speaker 7: Wow, I don't know what signs you're right?
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: A bold statement there, all right? Coming up next NBA
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: News yesterday.
- 1:08:38Speaker 6: Yeah, Adam Silver, it's about time to you know, expand
- 1:08:43Speaker 6: or get off the pot.
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: We'll discuss it.
- 1:08:45Speaker 6: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM, Good Wednesday morning,
- 1:09:01Speaker 6: nine o'clock hour here on the eve of Seahawks Rams.
- 1:09:04Speaker 6: We'll certainly be talking about it more before the show
- 1:09:07Speaker 6: comes to a close. And tomorrow we're all about it
- 1:09:10Speaker 6: right here on Chucking Back in the morning, Ashley, Bucky
- 1:09:13Speaker 6: Chuck with you here on this Wednesday. But we have
- 1:09:16Speaker 6: another major sporting event that gets started on Friday. The
- 1:09:20Speaker 6: College Football Playoff is nearly here, second ever season for
- 1:09:24Speaker 6: a true playoff.
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: Tournament for college football.
- 1:09:28Speaker 7: I love it.
- 1:09:29Speaker 6: And it'll start with Oklahoma and Alabama on Friday night
- 1:09:34Speaker 6: at five o'clock. And so today we will muster up
- 1:09:37Speaker 6: the strength to preview for you the entire tournament field.
- 1:09:42Speaker 6: It's our bracket jacket, which we started just a year ago,
- 1:09:45Speaker 6: so we're going to get to that in a moment.
- 1:09:47Speaker 6: But we also have some hardware to hand out. It's
- 1:09:49Speaker 6: been a long time since we've done this. We haven't green.
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: Jacketed in a while. It's been a minute.
- 1:09:52Speaker 6: Yeah, no kidding, I mean no, we don't even we
- 1:09:56Speaker 6: don't even keep in touch anymore.
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: I've missed it so much.
- 1:09:59Speaker 6: Well, yeah, you and I aren't performing so well these days,
- 1:10:02Speaker 6: but we do have to hand the green jacket to
- 1:10:06Speaker 6: our own Christopher Kid.
- 1:10:08Speaker 2: Thanks Bud for the winter. Huh's going to happen? Maybe
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: you certainly earned it. I'll say this.
- 1:10:14Speaker 6: I mean, I think in our college Big ten college
- 1:10:17Speaker 6: football fantasy league this year, I think you caught a
- 1:10:21Speaker 6: lot of breaks. You had the healthiest team, but you
- 1:10:23Speaker 6: also drafted the best. I mean, there's no getting around it.
- 1:10:27Speaker 6: Your first round pick was the only bad pick you made,
- 1:10:29Speaker 6: Nick Singleton from Pennstanva.
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: He wasn't a bad pick.
- 1:10:32Speaker 6: But then you had Mackay Lemon in the second round,
- 1:10:34Speaker 6: who was fantastic this year, Denzel Boston in the third round,
- 1:10:38Speaker 6: he was fantastic. And then the pick they won it
- 1:10:40Speaker 6: for you, the pick from Heaven. At the fourth round,
- 1:10:43Speaker 6: Christopher Kid picks the Heisman Trophy winner Fernando Mendoza and
- 1:10:48Speaker 6: had him all season long.
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: That's some good picking right there. I'll give it to you.
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 1:10:53Speaker 14: I didn't even know who he was, well I did.
- 1:10:56Speaker 14: He had a solid season last year. I didn't think
- 1:10:58Speaker 14: he would become a Heisman winner. Just thought he would
- 1:11:00Speaker 14: have a decent season.
- 1:11:02Speaker 2: And boy did he blow that out the water. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: he really did.
- 1:11:05Speaker 6: So you had nine hundred and ninety the nine and
- 1:11:08Speaker 6: eighty points. It ended up being very close. This is
- 1:11:11Speaker 6: the closest from the top to bottom that we've ever
- 1:11:13Speaker 6: had in our Big Ten Fantasy league. Bucky ended up
- 1:11:17Speaker 6: finishing second with ninety nine. I finished third with nine
- 1:11:22Speaker 6: to twenty two, and then Ashley with nine to nineteen.
- 1:11:24Speaker 6: So all very close. This year was a it was
- 1:11:27Speaker 6: a fun season. Now we had a lot of injury aggravations.
- 1:11:31Speaker 6: Thank you, j Yeah, exactly, Thank you, Darius Taylor. I
- 1:11:35Speaker 6: hope you fail at life.
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: Seahawks with the third round pick select.
- 1:11:41Speaker 6: I hope, I hope you don't make it to the
- 1:11:43Speaker 6: National Football League. You get a desk job and get
- 1:11:46Speaker 6: fired within two weeks. Wow, that's what I hope.
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: He was not listening to any sports radio.
- 1:11:52Speaker 7: The West of third in our little draft.
- 1:11:54Speaker 6: I hope you get injured by a stapler incident sitting
- 1:11:58Speaker 6: at your desk, at your job.
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: At the hest.
- 1:12:01Speaker 10: He didn't say paper cut because that would be just
- 1:12:03Speaker 10: straight violence.
- 1:12:04Speaker 6: Well, I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Yeah, not my
- 1:12:07Speaker 6: worst enemy. So Chris Kid, Yes, we'll see if you
- 1:12:11Speaker 6: can wear that all winter long. Actually, you might want
- 1:12:14Speaker 6: to take that off your shoulder.
- 1:12:17Speaker 2: Yeah, it really will.
- 1:12:18Speaker 6: Our college football preview draft was where we picked the
- 1:12:22Speaker 6: Heisman Trophy winner and the national champion, the Big Ten champion,
- 1:12:27Speaker 6: and then how many wins that you Dub would get.
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: Now, I would say three.
- 1:12:32Speaker 6: Of us were terrible, Yeah, terrible at this Bucky was okay,
- 1:12:37Speaker 6: but okay compared to how terrible we were.
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: He ran away with it.
- 1:12:41Speaker 6: So Bucky won the Green Jacket. He nailed you Dub's
- 1:12:45Speaker 6: win total with eight and he took in the first round,
- 1:12:48Speaker 6: so you got to give him credit for that. It's
- 1:12:49Speaker 6: not like he just backed his way into it. He
- 1:12:51Speaker 6: was like, I want that number eight, and I'm gonna
- 1:12:53Speaker 6: take it with my first pick. So he did that.
- 1:12:56Speaker 6: He also has Ohio State actually pretty good, Ohio State
- 1:12:59Speaker 6: winning the national champion ship and right now they're the favorite.
- 1:13:02Speaker 6: He had Oregon winning the Big Ten. They came close,
- 1:13:05Speaker 6: and he had arch Manning winning the Heisman Trophy and
- 1:13:08Speaker 6: that didn't come close. But then again, he was the
- 1:13:10Speaker 6: favorite at the time we were drafting, so Bucky ran
- 1:13:13Speaker 6: away with this one.
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: So Bucky, congratulations, thank you.
- 1:13:16Speaker 7: It feels good. It feels good.
- 1:13:18Speaker 4: You didn't take Fernando Mendoza in the in the Heisman.
- 1:13:21Speaker 2: Yeah, you son of a gun. You you got jokes,
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: You're funny.
- 1:13:25Speaker 7: I should have.
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure he was like plus ten thousand. I
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: don't know.
- 1:13:29Speaker 9: Congratulations, Bucky. I am very happy for you.
- 1:13:33Speaker 4: Sound about as happy as you are about the NBA
- 1:13:35Speaker 4: mid season Cups.
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: I am glad that came across correctly. Yeah, Ashley and
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: I got.
- 1:13:40Speaker 6: To pick it up because Bucky's now got five Green
- 1:13:43Speaker 6: jackets for the new season. He's leading kid with his
- 1:13:47Speaker 6: third moves out of a tie for last place with me.
- 1:13:51Speaker 6: But Ashley started this season like gang bust. I think
- 1:13:53Speaker 6: he won like the first three.
- 1:13:55Speaker 8: Uh.
- 1:13:55Speaker 6: And so you you're in a you're in a drought,
- 1:14:00Speaker 6: last place, which.
- 1:14:01Speaker 2: Is where I'm at.
- 1:14:02Speaker 6: So it's the outstanding Green Jacket drafts that we've had
- 1:14:06Speaker 6: the Hockey Crack and Fantasy League.
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: I'm leading that right now with seventy one points.
- 1:14:12Speaker 6: Ashley has sixty eight, Kid with sixty two and Bucky
- 1:14:15Speaker 6: with forty eight, and I've got Jayden Schwartz out, So Ashley,
- 1:14:19Speaker 6: there's your chance to get here, right come yeah, to
- 1:14:23Speaker 6: overtake me midway through the season. Guess who's winning our
- 1:14:27Speaker 6: NBA one round the Horn, Ashley?
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: Guess who?
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: Me?
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: Bucky?
- 1:14:32Speaker 7: Probably me?
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: Kid?
- 1:14:33Speaker 2: Who do you think, Chuck? I'll go ahead, Chuck Fashley.
- 1:14:38Speaker 6: Ashley I predicted with the Nuggets, the Rockets, Hawks, and
- 1:14:43Speaker 6: Lakers is at sixty eight and thirty two, six games
- 1:14:46Speaker 6: better than Kid right now, nine and a half games
- 1:14:48Speaker 6: better than Bucky right now, and twelve and a half
- 1:14:50Speaker 6: better than me because I took the Mavericks and not
- 1:14:53Speaker 6: the Pistons like an idiot. That's eleven and a half points.
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: That's oh, that's horrible.
- 1:15:01Speaker 6: And then our NFL over unders that we did at
- 1:15:04Speaker 6: the beginning of the year, it's all but salted away.
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: Bucky's all but won this thing.
- 1:15:08Speaker 6: He took Seahawks over eight and a half, Broncos over
- 1:15:12Speaker 6: nine and a half, and even though he took the
- 1:15:15Speaker 6: Falcons over seven and a half, he's still probably gonna
- 1:15:19Speaker 6: run away. You're almost cinched it I mean, I think
- 1:15:21Speaker 6: I'm gonna punch three tickets, but the margin is just
- 1:15:24Speaker 6: not going to be significant where you already have margins
- 1:15:27Speaker 6: with the Broncos and Seahawks of two and a half
- 1:15:30Speaker 6: games each.
- 1:15:31Speaker 2: How are my Jets doing not good?
- 1:15:33Speaker 6: You did not have a good draft, and kid, you've
- 1:15:38Speaker 6: got a chance to punch some tickets, but you've got
- 1:15:40Speaker 6: to have some things happen.
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: Yeah, Miami wins some games here, Bud, help me out
- 1:15:43Speaker 2: or lose or lose. I would like for them to lose.
- 1:15:47Speaker 2: All right. That gets you up to speed with what
- 1:15:49Speaker 2: we've been doing.
- 1:15:49Speaker 6: It's our Green Jacket draft do We do this every
- 1:15:51Speaker 6: once in a while to preview a major sporting event
- 1:15:54Speaker 6: and then we have a little bit of fun with it.
- 1:15:56Speaker 6: And so today we preview the college football Playoff.
- 1:15:59Speaker 2: There won't be a draft day.
- 1:16:00Speaker 6: Last year we introduced the green Jacket bracket, and so
- 1:16:05Speaker 6: we did this with the college basketball and then last
- 1:16:08Speaker 6: year the first ever college football tournament. And so today
- 1:16:11Speaker 6: we just reveal our green jacket brackets. Uh, and so
- 1:16:15Speaker 6: we've got them all filled out and we're ready to reveal.
- 1:16:18Speaker 6: So this is no draft, just a discussion, and we'll
- 1:16:21Speaker 6: start with Bucky, Bucky, let's talk about your bracket.
- 1:16:26Speaker 2: What do you got going over there?
- 1:16:27Speaker 4: Well, I do have Oregon squeaking by jam You Settler. Yep,
- 1:16:33Speaker 4: that's a that's what I don't feel super confident in
- 1:16:36Speaker 4: that one, but I'm gonna go ahead and go with
- 1:16:38Speaker 4: the Ducks. They don't have to lay points on this,
- 1:16:42Speaker 4: just straight up, straight up.
- 1:16:44Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:16:44Speaker 4: And then I actually have Alabama beating Oklahoma.
- 1:16:49Speaker 7: That might be a different one. I don't know.
- 1:16:50Speaker 6: If you guys it's eight nine, then you can go
- 1:16:52Speaker 6: that's a coin cost right now. Oklahoma beat him earlier. Yeah,
- 1:16:55Speaker 6: but the Alabama out kind of outplayed them.
- 1:16:59Speaker 4: I mean they as far as total yards, I think
- 1:17:01Speaker 4: it was like four oh six to two twelve. There
- 1:17:03Speaker 4: was a Oklahoma had picked six in that game, and
- 1:17:05Speaker 4: it still was tight at the end. I think Alabama
- 1:17:08Speaker 4: rights the ship and beats them. I'm taking Old Miss
- 1:17:11Speaker 4: against Tulane. I think that they will have a little
- 1:17:14Speaker 4: bit of a galvanizing thing from the Lane Kiffin experience,
- 1:17:17Speaker 4: at least in round one. And then I don't really
- 1:17:20Speaker 4: know about the Miami Texas A and m I don't
- 1:17:23Speaker 4: I really haven't watched either of those teams, but I'm
- 1:17:25Speaker 4: cheering hard for Texas A and M for one reason
- 1:17:28Speaker 4: and one reason only.
- 1:17:30Speaker 7: You're a huge Aggies Yep.
- 1:17:31Speaker 4: Nope, nope, because I just don't like Miami now at all.
- 1:17:35Speaker 4: Going back on that one, I think Ohio State beats
- 1:17:38Speaker 4: whoever comes out of that matchup with Texas A and
- 1:17:42Speaker 4: M and Miami. I think Ohio State is the favorite,
- 1:17:44Speaker 4: and understandably so, whether or not they hold up.
- 1:17:47Speaker 7: I think their defense is better than it was last year.
- 1:17:49Speaker 4: I think the offense they have crazy weapons which show
- 1:17:52Speaker 4: up usually in big moments, so I have them advancing
- 1:17:56Speaker 4: to the semi finals. I think Georgia beats Old Miss.
- 1:18:00Speaker 4: They beat them just not too long ago, right towards
- 1:18:02Speaker 4: the end of the Rego season. I think they kind
- 1:18:04Speaker 4: of hold serve in that one. I think Indiana beats Alabama,
- 1:18:08Speaker 4: and then I'm taking Oregon beating Texas Town because I
- 1:18:10Speaker 4: can't yep, that's straight home. Well wait till you hear
- 1:18:13Speaker 4: the rest of it, because then I have Oregon beating
- 1:18:14Speaker 4: Indiana in the semifinals. Yep, because this is the year.
- 1:18:19Speaker 4: I think the Ducks are getting healthy at the right time.
- 1:18:21Speaker 4: They basically the second half of the season definitely the
- 1:18:23Speaker 4: last two months have been without their top two or
- 1:18:26Speaker 4: three wide receivers and still figured out a way. They
- 1:18:29Speaker 4: got tons of running backs. Dante Moore has to play
- 1:18:31Speaker 4: the way that he can, not the way that he has.
- 1:18:34Speaker 4: At times, I think that they can get past Indiana.
- 1:18:36Speaker 4: They deserve to lose. Come on, India, you're not that good.
- 1:18:39Speaker 4: And then I have Ohio State beating Georgia in their
- 1:18:43Speaker 4: side of the bracket. So it's Ducks versus Ohio State.
- 1:18:45Speaker 4: And at this point I'm not going back on it.
- 1:18:47Speaker 4: Give me the Ducks being the national championship.
- 1:18:49Speaker 2: Man, I'm so glad I don't have to worry about
- 1:18:50Speaker 2: bucket winning this. Yeah, well we'll see.
- 1:18:54Speaker 7: We'll see about that.
- 1:18:56Speaker 2: Quack that is. I guess you ride your team?
- 1:19:01Speaker 6: Yeah, ride your team. I guess yes, you don't bail
- 1:19:04Speaker 6: on your team.
- 1:19:06Speaker 4: Extra cheer for It's just nice to have my team
- 1:19:09Speaker 4: in it, you know. Yeah in the argument, there you go,
- 1:19:12Speaker 4: Joe Coo.
- 1:19:12Speaker 7: I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about.
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 1:19:16Speaker 10: Because Washington has not been in the Jim used.
- 1:19:18Speaker 7: Purple and gold. You could take them all the way.
- 1:19:20Speaker 6: I mean, if they win, all cheer hard, all right,
- 1:19:23Speaker 6: Ashley where do you differ on your board from BUCkies?
- 1:19:27Speaker 9: You got a difference, so none in the first round.
- 1:19:29Speaker 9: I've got Oregon, Bama, Ole, Miss and Texas A and
- 1:19:32Speaker 9: M in the first round. Okay, second round, I got
- 1:19:35Speaker 9: Ohio State, Georgia, Indiana and Oregon.
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: All right, so you're identical to this point, yeah, okay?
- 1:19:43Speaker 10: And then I picked Indiana of course you did.
- 1:19:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:19:47Speaker 4: Chalk, Yeah, chalky beat once already, I am choking twice
- 1:19:51Speaker 4: in the same season.
- 1:19:52Speaker 2: That's what it's carved on the tree outside their house.
- 1:19:55Speaker 2: Five five iron loves chalking, straight chalk.
- 1:19:58Speaker 9: And then I got yeah, I got Indie, Banna and
- 1:20:00Speaker 9: Ohio State meeting up in the semi finals in Indiana
- 1:20:02Speaker 9: getting them again.
- 1:20:03Speaker 6: Oh look at that.
- 1:20:06Speaker 2: Okay, that's straight chalk? Yep. Did you take one upset?
- 1:20:12Speaker 2: The entire time I did not know, Well you ever
- 1:20:16Speaker 2: heard chalking?
- 1:20:16Speaker 9: Yeah I did, because technically Alabama is an upset over.
- 1:20:19Speaker 4: Oklahoma as an upset over Texas tech ranking wise.
- 1:20:23Speaker 6: Okay, seed, all right, all right, all right, I take
- 1:20:26Speaker 6: that back. You're just chalk, like, yeah, you're not chalky
- 1:20:29Speaker 6: or Trump.
- 1:20:30Speaker 9: I'm very's in my mouth five iron less chalk like, yeah,
- 1:20:34Speaker 9: who doesn't yep.
- 1:20:36Speaker 6: All right, all right, kid, lay it out for me,
- 1:20:39Speaker 6: play it out before us.
- 1:20:40Speaker 2: What do you got?
- 1:20:41Speaker 14: I have one upset, and that would be Miami over
- 1:20:44Speaker 14: Texas and m oh boy, sorry, you'll be okay though, Bucky.
- 1:20:48Speaker 14: Do anything else though? Oregon, Oklahoma, Ole miss and then
- 1:20:51Speaker 14: the So.
- 1:20:51Speaker 2: You do have Oklahoma that's different than theirs. Actually, you're right,
- 1:20:55Speaker 2: it is different than theirs, but it's the favorite.
- 1:20:58Speaker 14: So I go with the eighty to Leastklahoma, and then
- 1:21:00Speaker 14: I got Texas Tech beating Oregan.
- 1:21:02Speaker 2: Sorry Buck, oh new heisily.
- 1:21:06Speaker 14: Fake Mahomes is going to do something special or right?
- 1:21:08Speaker 14: Should maybe the one of be Mahomes? How do you
- 1:21:10Speaker 14: want to phrase it? I'll probably play okay, hopefully doesn't
- 1:21:12Speaker 14: get hurt though, right my goodness, Well the fake Mahomes
- 1:21:15Speaker 14: isn't there yet.
- 1:21:16Speaker 2: He'll be there next year, that's true. Yeah, give me.
- 1:21:20Speaker 2: This was tough, but I'm going with Indiana.
- 1:21:22Speaker 6: Hey, I actually think that is going to be a
- 1:21:24Speaker 6: tough game. I think Oklahoma place, if Oklahoma gets there,
- 1:21:27Speaker 6: even if Alabama gets there, I think Indiana all three.
- 1:21:31Speaker 6: If they're gonna win the national championship, they're gonna earn it.
- 1:21:34Speaker 6: They don't have an easy game.
- 1:21:35Speaker 14: True that I did pick Georgia and Ohio State to
- 1:21:39Speaker 14: meet up in the semi which Ohio State will win.
- 1:21:42Speaker 14: And I got Indiana, and then I got Ohio State,
- 1:21:45Speaker 14: saying we want revenge, and they get the revenge.
- 1:21:48Speaker 2: You got them. We went back to back, so you
- 1:21:49Speaker 2: got the Ohio State buck guys. All right, it's a
- 1:21:52Speaker 2: little different.
- 1:21:52Speaker 6: It's not like the sixty eighteen field in college basketball.
- 1:21:55Speaker 6: I mean, there's a danger that you know, two of
- 1:21:58Speaker 6: us we're going to pick the exact same jacket when
- 1:22:00Speaker 6: you only have twelve teams and you've got such clear
- 1:22:03Speaker 6: cut favorites in a few of those games. But I'm
- 1:22:06Speaker 6: glad there's at least some variants, so we will have
- 1:22:08Speaker 6: a green jacket winner.
- 1:22:10Speaker 2: All right.
- 1:22:10Speaker 6: I do have a couple of upsets, if you want
- 1:22:12Speaker 6: to call them that, in the first round, I do have.
- 1:22:15Speaker 6: I'm taking Miami over Texas A and M Nick Saban
- 1:22:18Speaker 6: has been hot on Miami all season long, just a
- 1:22:22Speaker 6: couple of weeks ago, says if they get in the tournament,
- 1:22:25Speaker 6: they're as dangerous as anybody.
- 1:22:26Speaker 2: Those are the words of Nick Saban.
- 1:22:28Speaker 6: They got incredible speed on defense, best pass rusher in
- 1:22:32Speaker 6: college football, best left tackle in college football. If Beck
- 1:22:35Speaker 6: doesn't turn the ball over, which has been an issue
- 1:22:38Speaker 6: in their losses but not in their wins. If he
- 1:22:40Speaker 6: doesn't turn the ball over, I think Miami is very dangerous.
- 1:22:44Speaker 6: So that I have them winning, I do have Old
- 1:22:46Speaker 6: Miss advancing, and I'm kind of rooting a little bit
- 1:22:48Speaker 6: for Old Miss. I'd like to see them win the
- 1:22:49Speaker 6: national championship. Frankly, Okayan Kevin can show.
- 1:22:53Speaker 10: I would like that too, Although doesn't he get a
- 1:22:54Speaker 10: bonus or something from you?
- 1:22:56Speaker 2: I don't care.
- 1:22:57Speaker 6: I just want to see them celebrate without him. I
- 1:22:59Speaker 6: like it.
- 1:23:00Speaker 7: I want to see Yeah, I wouldn't mind that, but
- 1:23:02Speaker 7: I don't want it.
- 1:23:03Speaker 6: I'm taking Oklahoma over Alabama. I'm not sure Alabama is
- 1:23:07Speaker 6: playing great football right now. And Kaylin de Bor's calling
- 1:23:10Speaker 6: up plays for Bryce Underwood already, oh, drawing those on
- 1:23:15Speaker 6: the plane.
- 1:23:16Speaker 2: Like, hey, what are you doing there, coach? Nothing nothing
- 1:23:19Speaker 2: going at my work?
- 1:23:20Speaker 10: Yeah, coach? Why is everything in blue and yellow?
- 1:23:22Speaker 2: Why do you have I love Jordan Marshall on your notebook?
- 1:23:25Speaker 7: Coach?
- 1:23:25Speaker 2: Why did you tattoo Ann Arbor on your butt?
- 1:23:28Speaker 6: So I think the distracted Crimson tide loves to Oklahoma,
- 1:23:33Speaker 6: who's a very physical defensive team. I do have Oregon
- 1:23:37Speaker 6: over James Madison, but I do have Oregon losing to
- 1:23:39Speaker 6: Texas Tech. I liked Rick new Isel saying that yesterday
- 1:23:43Speaker 6: because I was already leaning that way.
- 1:23:45Speaker 2: I think text Tech's the real deal. They might be
- 1:23:47Speaker 2: the best defensive team in the country. I mean, they're
- 1:23:49Speaker 2: outstanding on that side of the ball.
- 1:23:52Speaker 6: Indiana, I have winning a squeaker over Oklahoma, Georgia taking
- 1:23:56Speaker 6: care of Ole Miss, and Ohio State moving past Miami,
- 1:24:00Speaker 6: and I got Ohio State and Texas Tech in the
- 1:24:03Speaker 6: national championship game, with the Buckeyes.
- 1:24:05Speaker 2: Winning at all for the second year. I'll see you. Yeah,
- 1:24:08Speaker 2: it's all said and done down.
- 1:24:10Speaker 6: I mean, they're just the narrow differences, xept for Bucky's
- 1:24:12Speaker 6: Bucki's got Oregon going all the way. That's noticeably different
- 1:24:15Speaker 6: than the rest of us. But it's going to come
- 1:24:17Speaker 6: down to, you know, one or two games. That's basically
- 1:24:19Speaker 6: what's going to come down to. So there you those
- 1:24:21Speaker 6: are Those are our predictions for the College Football Playoff.
- 1:24:25Speaker 6: Made the best team win. Somebody needs to steal that
- 1:24:28Speaker 6: green jacket off of Bucky Shoulders.
- 1:24:31Speaker 7: Good luck with that.
- 1:24:32Speaker 2: Yeah, it's missing shoulders already whould have thought.
- 1:24:35Speaker 6: And as long as Oregon doesn't win the national championship,
- 1:24:38Speaker 6: it will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.
- 1:24:41Speaker 2: Give us this day our daily bread.
- 1:24:43Speaker 4: God doesn't like any of you, right, he loves us,
- 1:24:47Speaker 4: he doesn't like He doesn't don't even care for stadium,
- 1:24:50Speaker 4: that's for sure.
- 1:24:55Speaker 2: Remember we were having drinks and he just wouldn't stop
- 1:24:57Speaker 2: talking about it. I do remember. It was almost the punt. Yeah,
- 1:25:00Speaker 2: we were like, I'm just had to.
- 1:25:01Speaker 9: Take the drink away from him because I thought he
- 1:25:03Speaker 9: was just spouting.
- 1:25:04Speaker 2: Off a little too much about his Dislike.
- 1:25:05Speaker 10: I'm like, you're supposed to love everybody even more.
- 1:25:08Speaker 2: God, we don't even like Orgon, but this is making
- 1:25:10Speaker 2: us uncomfortable.
- 1:25:11Speaker 10: Yeah, you're making us look good and making it look
- 1:25:13Speaker 10: like we love Orgon.
- 1:25:14Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:25:15Speaker 6: I realized that Dan Lanning is that. But you don't
- 1:25:18Speaker 6: have to call him that. Yeah, I mean, not out loud.
- 1:25:20Speaker 2: We can all think it with our eyes. I mean
- 1:25:22Speaker 2: the sea really?
- 1:25:24Speaker 8: Uh?
- 1:25:24Speaker 6: Anyway, Coming up on the radio program here today, Al
- 1:25:30Speaker 6: Kaniski will join us to talk some krack and Hockey
- 1:25:33Speaker 6: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R f M. HI,
- 1:25:45Speaker 6: Good morning, Chuck buck Ashley with you every week at
- 1:25:48Speaker 6: this time we chat with the Crack and color analyst
- 1:25:51Speaker 6: right here on the flagship Sports Radio ninety three point
- 1:25:54Speaker 6: three kJ R f M.
- 1:25:55Speaker 2: It is Al Kanisky. That is well with us, goomoning
- 1:25:58Speaker 2: out morning now were you? We're doing good. We're doing good.
- 1:26:02Speaker 2: Happy holidays to you by the way.
- 1:26:05Speaker 6: And yeah, and I would imagine at this point there's
- 1:26:09Speaker 6: not a Cracking fan that's not wishing for a win
- 1:26:11Speaker 6: under the tree at this point nine losses out of ten.
- 1:26:16Speaker 6: Everett told us yesterday we had the conversation. He doesn't
- 1:26:19Speaker 6: think the team's playing poorly, they're just not winning games.
- 1:26:21Speaker 6: And I think that's exactly what happened again last night.
- 1:26:24Speaker 6: You face the best team in the NHL on paper,
- 1:26:26Speaker 6: you hang with them, and yet you can't pull out
- 1:26:29Speaker 6: a win. What's it going to take to get this
- 1:26:31Speaker 6: thing over the top?
- 1:26:32Speaker 11: Al, Yeah, it's frustrating because because what you start doing
- 1:26:36Speaker 11: is you analyze, you know, what went wrong, whether it's
- 1:26:40Speaker 11: you know, whether it's a nine to nothing loss or
- 1:26:43Speaker 11: a five three loss, what went wrong? And the Cracking
- 1:26:46Speaker 11: going into that third period up by a goal three
- 1:26:49Speaker 11: to two, you felt pretty good about that. If I
- 1:26:51Speaker 11: have said, hey, you know, in the next game against Colorado,
- 1:26:54Speaker 11: I'll spot your three goals, it'll be three two going
- 1:26:56Speaker 11: to the third. You'd take that every single time. And
- 1:26:59Speaker 11: when you look at the the final score and you
- 1:27:01Speaker 11: say what went wrong, it just comes down to a
- 1:27:03Speaker 11: couple of mistakes. And that's the way it is with
- 1:27:06Speaker 11: this team right now. That's the way it is in playoffs.
- 1:27:08Speaker 11: So the senior they figure it out. The senior they'll
- 1:27:10Speaker 11: get moving back up the standings, and they're gonna have
- 1:27:12Speaker 11: to play that way if they do make the playoffs.
- 1:27:14Speaker 11: So how they get it turned around. They've got to
- 1:27:18Speaker 11: look at those mistakes and they've got to clean them up.
- 1:27:20Speaker 11: It's it's a it's a bad clear there, it's a
- 1:27:23Speaker 11: it's a bad penalty here.
- 1:27:25Speaker 7: It's it's you know.
- 1:27:26Speaker 11: Uh, not backchecking correctly when you're trying to pick up
- 1:27:30Speaker 11: the you know the right guy, you take the wrong guy.
- 1:27:32Speaker 11: These things all come out and film, and they happen
- 1:27:34Speaker 11: every single time for both teams. But unfortunately, the Kraken
- 1:27:38Speaker 11: are are getting punished by them a little more frequently
- 1:27:41Speaker 11: than they're able to punish. The teams are playing and
- 1:27:43Speaker 11: let's let's face it. You know, last night it was Colorado,
- 1:27:46Speaker 11: the best team in the league, and they took advantage
- 1:27:48Speaker 11: of those mistakes.
- 1:27:49Speaker 4: Yeah, even though they hung with them, I mean towards
- 1:27:52Speaker 4: the end there there was that little scuffle where they
- 1:27:55Speaker 4: end up handing out what like four miners or double
- 1:27:58Speaker 4: miners or something, and they didn't show on TV. I
- 1:28:02Speaker 4: kind of saw on TV that Montour was kind of
- 1:28:04Speaker 4: slow to get up after he got involved in the
- 1:28:07Speaker 4: whole thing, and then he didn't return. Did you see
- 1:28:10Speaker 4: anything that they didn't show on TV that would lead
- 1:28:12Speaker 4: us into any information at all on him?
- 1:28:15Speaker 11: You know, in those skirmishes like that, obviously there's sticks
- 1:28:19Speaker 11: and there's you know, punches, and guys fall into the
- 1:28:22Speaker 11: ground and you just can't tell what happens to Monteur
- 1:28:26Speaker 11: and the replays that I've seen, other than maybe he
- 1:28:29Speaker 11: went down awkwardly and hit his head, which could be
- 1:28:32Speaker 11: the reason why he didn't return. Again, I'm speculating. We
- 1:28:37Speaker 11: initially thought he went for stitches, which you know, for
- 1:28:40Speaker 11: a guy like Brandon Montour or any hockey player for
- 1:28:42Speaker 11: that man, that's not going to stop them from coming
- 1:28:44Speaker 11: back to the game. So I too, am a little
- 1:28:47Speaker 11: bit curious as to what the longer term outlook is
- 1:28:50Speaker 11: for Brandon Montour, but I'm guessing it had something to
- 1:28:54Speaker 11: do with, you know, not necessarily a punch, because that
- 1:28:58Speaker 11: usually ends up either nothing or stitches at the worst,
- 1:29:01Speaker 11: but maybe going down to the ice, which is why
- 1:29:04Speaker 11: he didn't return.
- 1:29:05Speaker 6: Al Kiniski is with US color Analyst for your Seattle
- 1:29:08Speaker 6: crack and losers for the ninth time and ten games
- 1:29:11Speaker 6: last night, five to three of the final score against
- 1:29:14Speaker 6: the Colorado Avalanche, who have lost only two games all
- 1:29:17Speaker 6: season long to this point.
- 1:29:20Speaker 2: Your reaction to Lane Lambert.
- 1:29:23Speaker 6: I know the team is scuffling right now, but he
- 1:29:26Speaker 6: held a press conference in which he didn't allow the
- 1:29:29Speaker 6: press to ask him any questions that looked for members
- 1:29:34Speaker 6: of the media.
- 1:29:35Speaker 2: I find that a bit unacceptable.
- 1:29:38Speaker 6: I don't think that we've got some hard hitting Seattle
- 1:29:40Speaker 6: media corps here that has.
- 1:29:42Speaker 2: Worn you know, Lane Lambert out after every loss.
- 1:29:46Speaker 6: I think that's pretty cheap to kind of back away
- 1:29:49Speaker 6: from the questions that should be asked when you've lost
- 1:29:52Speaker 6: nine games out of ten.
- 1:29:53Speaker 2: What was your reaction to that?
- 1:29:55Speaker 11: Yeah, I wasn't in the room for it, but I
- 1:29:57Speaker 11: did watch start watching listen to it, and from I
- 1:30:00Speaker 11: can tell, there's a lot of frustration in his answers.
- 1:30:03Speaker 11: And it's not frustration at the Seattle media. It's frustration
- 1:30:06Speaker 11: on where the team is at right now. Like you said,
- 1:30:08Speaker 11: they're in all these games, they're just you know, they
- 1:30:11Speaker 11: can't get over the top. And I think that frustration
- 1:30:14Speaker 11: probably came out in that postgame media veil and that
- 1:30:18Speaker 11: that's what you saw and heard there. I don't think
- 1:30:21Speaker 11: that'll happen again.
- 1:30:22Speaker 4: Yeah, I am concerned just a little bit about how
- 1:30:26Speaker 4: long it's taken them to kind of reverse the trend here.
- 1:30:29Speaker 4: Yesterday was a moral victory as far as how well
- 1:30:32Speaker 4: they played, taking you know, ended up having the lead
- 1:30:35Speaker 4: against the team that's, you know, arguably the best team
- 1:30:38Speaker 4: in the NHL right now. But moral victories don't pay
- 1:30:40Speaker 4: the bills. Moral victories are not going to be enough.
- 1:30:43Speaker 4: And so I mean, is there is there something besides
- 1:30:47Speaker 4: just they're just not finding that little thing at the
- 1:30:49Speaker 4: end that the other team does. Is there something in
- 1:30:52Speaker 4: general where it's like yesterday, I know, I was listening
- 1:30:55Speaker 4: to you and Fitz and you guys are talking about
- 1:30:57Speaker 4: how many block shots there was, and that to me
- 1:31:00Speaker 4: is just a toughness thing. I would imagine where you
- 1:31:03Speaker 4: just got to sit there and be like, yeah, go ahead, slapshot,
- 1:31:05Speaker 4: I'll put my body in front of it. That doesn't
- 1:31:07Speaker 4: sound all that fun, and yet it was working and
- 1:31:10Speaker 4: it kept them in the game and even had the
- 1:31:11Speaker 4: lead into the third period. So is there a toughness
- 1:31:16Speaker 4: thing that you're seeing that they did yesterday even though
- 1:31:18Speaker 4: it didn't turn into a victory.
- 1:31:20Speaker 1: Oh?
- 1:31:20Speaker 11: Absolutely, I mean, Bucky, the block shots were two to one,
- 1:31:24Speaker 11: I think at the end of the second period, twenty
- 1:31:26Speaker 11: to ten for the cracking. And you know, on the
- 1:31:28Speaker 11: one hand, you might say, well, you wouldn't have to
- 1:31:30Speaker 11: block so many shots if you didn't give this team
- 1:31:31Speaker 11: so many shots on goal. But they knew they were
- 1:31:34Speaker 11: facing this high octane Colorado Avalanche team, and you knew
- 1:31:37Speaker 11: that guys like Nathan mckinn and kill mccarr were going
- 1:31:40Speaker 11: to be firing the fucks. So your choice is, you know,
- 1:31:43Speaker 11: accept the fact that they're going to put pucks on
- 1:31:45Speaker 11: it and let those tucks get through, or sacrifice your
- 1:31:47Speaker 11: body to get in front of them as often as possible.
- 1:31:50Speaker 11: And that's what they were doing. So absolutely there's a
- 1:31:52Speaker 11: toughness factor.
- 1:31:52Speaker 7: There.
- 1:31:53Speaker 11: They knew they had to sign up for that to
- 1:31:55Speaker 11: be in the game, and that's a big reason for
- 1:31:58Speaker 11: why they were in the game. I think, you know,
- 1:32:01Speaker 11: as far as moral victories go, I would put it
- 1:32:04Speaker 11: more as a forward looking victory, meaning that the last
- 1:32:10Speaker 11: four games here before Christmas, they're going to face Calgary,
- 1:32:12Speaker 11: San Jose, Anaheim, and LA and they're going to face
- 1:32:16Speaker 11: those teams are all in the Pacific Division, All but
- 1:32:19Speaker 11: Calgary are above them in the standings. You have to
- 1:32:22Speaker 11: go out and win those games. And I think that
- 1:32:24Speaker 11: if you play the way you did last night, not
- 1:32:26Speaker 11: only will you put yourself in a position to win,
- 1:32:28Speaker 11: but you could have some statement wins in there.
- 1:32:30Speaker 7: Now.
- 1:32:31Speaker 11: Playing that way every single night, eighty two games a
- 1:32:33Speaker 11: year is not easy, but that I think they showed
- 1:32:36Speaker 11: themselves last night that they could play with this Colorado
- 1:32:38Speaker 11: Colorado Avalanche team. If they can play with them, they
- 1:32:41Speaker 11: can play with anybody.
- 1:32:42Speaker 2: All can eski with us a segment. It brought to
- 1:32:44Speaker 2: you every week by the Queen and Beer Hall. What
- 1:32:47Speaker 2: a fun place that is. I got to ask about
- 1:32:49Speaker 2: Shane Wright.
- 1:32:52Speaker 6: Going into last night, he had not had a point
- 1:32:55Speaker 6: since the fourth of December. He had not had a
- 1:32:57Speaker 6: goal since November twentieth, and I think even what's most alarming,
- 1:33:02Speaker 6: seventeenth on the team in ice time. This was supposed
- 1:33:07Speaker 6: to be I thought, potentially our best offensive player this year.
- 1:33:12Speaker 2: What he did finally score a goal last night.
- 1:33:15Speaker 6: So what has been the problem that Lane Lambert has
- 1:33:18Speaker 6: had with giving Shane Wright Moore ice time? And do
- 1:33:21Speaker 6: you think that last night's goal may unlock him for
- 1:33:24Speaker 6: the year.
- 1:33:25Speaker 11: Well, I think it's gonna help for sure. And I
- 1:33:27Speaker 11: think that each game that goes by where the Kraken
- 1:33:30Speaker 11: don't end up on the winning side, Lane Lambert says, Okay, well,
- 1:33:33Speaker 11: who were my best players from last game, Let's reward
- 1:33:35Speaker 11: them for some more ice time. I think that's what
- 1:33:37Speaker 11: you saw with Freddie Gudreau, who has moved up the
- 1:33:40Speaker 11: lineup from the fourth line. He was in the top
- 1:33:42Speaker 11: line wing last night. So Maddy Benier's, Mason marshmurt and
- 1:33:46Speaker 11: Jordan Eberley. That line that was kind of riding the
- 1:33:48Speaker 11: number one spot for at least half a dozen games,
- 1:33:52Speaker 11: if not most of the season, dropped into that second
- 1:33:54Speaker 11: line position. And so I think, you know, Lane Lambert
- 1:33:57Speaker 11: will continue to reward the guys that are are playing hard,
- 1:34:01Speaker 11: having success, and that line of Right, Newman and Coco
- 1:34:04Speaker 11: last night was one of your best, if not your
- 1:34:07Speaker 11: best line out there. I think the Stevenson line played
- 1:34:09Speaker 11: very well also, but uh, Yanni Newman was was was
- 1:34:14Speaker 11: was close on a couple of opportunities. He was involved
- 1:34:16Speaker 11: in that Shane Wright goal. He was he had he
- 1:34:19Speaker 11: had the last touch before Right put the puck in
- 1:34:21Speaker 11: the net. I think Coppo Coco is another guy that
- 1:34:25Speaker 11: you know, Lane Lambert is trying to unlock him as well.
- 1:34:29Speaker 11: I don't think he's having as productive of a season
- 1:34:31Speaker 11: as he had last season, and he knows it, and
- 1:34:34Speaker 11: so he's trying to figure that out as well. So
- 1:34:36Speaker 11: you get those three guys going and gosh, by the
- 1:34:39Speaker 11: end of the season, they could be your second or
- 1:34:40Speaker 11: first line. And and so I think it's small steps.
- 1:34:43Speaker 11: I think that that you know, we're all waiting for
- 1:34:47Speaker 11: a breakout, you know, six twelve games for Shane right,
- 1:34:50Speaker 11: but it hasn't come yet. And I think that last
- 1:34:53Speaker 11: night getting that goal gives him a little more confidence
- 1:34:55Speaker 11: going into this last four game set before Christmas, and
- 1:34:59Speaker 11: and that that could be a difference maker.
- 1:35:01Speaker 6: All right, So finally at Calgary, I call it Kyle
- 1:35:04Speaker 6: Gary tomorrow night as they take on the Flames.
- 1:35:08Speaker 2: Not a very good team, I mean the way we're going.
- 1:35:10Speaker 6: I know that there's a lot of season left, but
- 1:35:12Speaker 6: are we getting into must win territory against a sub
- 1:35:16Speaker 6: five hundred team here tomorrow night.
- 1:35:19Speaker 11: Well, for a long time there we were looking at
- 1:35:21Speaker 11: Calgary going well, this is probably the team that's having
- 1:35:25Speaker 11: the hardest start to the season in the Western Conference
- 1:35:28Speaker 11: and certainly the Pacific Division. It's now Vancouver at twenty
- 1:35:31Speaker 11: nine points, and meanwhile Calgary at thirty is tied with
- 1:35:34Speaker 11: Seattle at thirty points. So Seattle has to look at
- 1:35:37Speaker 11: themselves now and say, we don't want to drop below Calgary.
- 1:35:40Speaker 11: We want to be the better team and we want
- 1:35:41Speaker 11: to start chasing these teams above the San Jose, La Evanton, etc.
- 1:35:46Speaker 11: So to do that, you've got to beat the teams
- 1:35:49Speaker 11: that are sitting below you in the standings, and that
- 1:35:51Speaker 11: starts tomorrow night with this Calgary team.
- 1:35:53Speaker 2: Didn't Vancouver win the division last year?
- 1:35:56Speaker 1: Yeah, Vancouver a tough run. As of late.
- 1:36:00Speaker 11: They just traded away with Quinn Hughes and you know,
- 1:36:03Speaker 11: lots to talk about that trade. They got three first
- 1:36:06Speaker 11: round our three first round players that were chosen in
- 1:36:09Speaker 11: the first round, plus a first round pick for next
- 1:36:12Speaker 11: year's draft that could pay off depending on where that
- 1:36:14Speaker 11: pick lands. But you know, a couple of years ago
- 1:36:18Speaker 11: they were in the Stanley Cup contention hunt. So they've
- 1:36:21Speaker 11: taken a big step backwards. They're definitely in a retooling
- 1:36:24Speaker 11: position right now.
- 1:36:25Speaker 6: All Right, I was wrong about that, but yeah, they
- 1:36:28Speaker 6: certainly have. They it was the year before. It was
- 1:36:30Speaker 6: two years ago that they won the Divice. All right,
- 1:36:33Speaker 6: al awesome stuff. Hopefully we get it going here starting
- 1:36:37Speaker 6: tomorrow night.
- 1:36:37Speaker 2: We'll be listening.
- 1:36:39Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it. Boys.
- 1:36:41Speaker 11: You have a good holiday and I'll talk to you soon.
- 1:36:43Speaker 6: All right, sounds great, Happy holidays. Al Koniski has segment
- 1:36:46Speaker 6: brought to you by Queen Anne beer Hall, home of
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