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The DSA Want To Abolish Everything · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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  Speaker 1: tuning in this week as we do a one week
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  Speaker 1: fill in the middle of summer. This, however, is Break
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  Speaker 1: the Glass and Pull the Alarm Day. Last night in Florida,
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  Speaker 1: a radical Democrat from the Democrats Socialists won the tenant nomination.
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  Speaker 1: Her name is Angie Nixon. She raised less than a
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  Speaker 1: million dollars. She won on the strength of the DSAS
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  Speaker 1: take over the Democratic Party, and she is a revolutionary one.
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  Speaker 1: Just one small part of her agenda. Cutt number for
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  Speaker 1: Angie Nixon on Morning Joe with Willie GUIs And what
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  Speaker 1: about another national position, which is the free movement of people,
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  Speaker 1: which the DSA means open borders.
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  Speaker 2: They say, that's what that means. Do you support open
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  Speaker 2: borders into the United States?
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  Speaker 3: I support a comprehensive and clear pathway to citizenship for folks.
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  Speaker 3: I believe that border patrol should make sure that they
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  Speaker 3: are securing the border.
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  Speaker 2: I believe, though, that there needs to be a.
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  Speaker 3: Clear, comprehensive and compassionate pathway to citizenship, especially for folks
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  Speaker 3: like Haitians and Venezuelans and Seerians.
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  Speaker 1: That's her most rational statement. The DSA hates the constant
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  Speaker 1: I played that for you yesterday. Their Central Committee member,
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  Speaker 1: playing Robespear, said we hate the Constitution. It is an
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  Speaker 1: obstacle in our way to centralize democratic control. Now, I
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  Speaker 1: want to run down for you briefly my other life.
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  Speaker 1: In my other life, I'm a law professor and my
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  Speaker 1: first class after taking role in getting to know the
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  Speaker 1: students is the revolutions they need to know, and we
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  Speaker 1: start with revolutions in civil wars. Right, That's what defines
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  Speaker 1: big movements. The DSA wants a French Revolution or its derivative,
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  Speaker 1: the Russian Revolution of nineteen seventeen, of the Chinese Communist
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  Speaker 1: Revolution of post World War II they went, However, they're
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  Speaker 1: truly French revolutionists. That was not the first revolution. The
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  Speaker 1: first revolution was the English Civil War that was from
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  Speaker 1: sixteen forty two to sixteen forty nine, ended up with
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  Speaker 1: Charles the First losing his head and a dictator, Oliver Cromwell.
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  Speaker 1: The second revolution was the Glorious Revolution of sixteen eighty eight.
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  Speaker 1: The king had been restored after the protectorate fell apart
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  Speaker 1: because the Englishman did not like having a dictator. James
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  Speaker 1: the Second of England was exiled in the Whig Revolution
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  Speaker 1: Bloodless Revolution coup run by about ten to fifteen people.
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  Speaker 1: William of Orange and Queen Mary came over from the
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  Speaker 1: Lowlands and they became the new monarchy to fight Louis
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  Speaker 1: the Fourteenth. After the Glorious Revolution came our Revolution, the
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  Speaker 1: American Revolution that begins really in seventeen sixty three. And
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  Speaker 1: runs all the way to seventeen eighty one. But seventeen
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  Speaker 1: seventy six is the declaration of independence. It's the big break.
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  Speaker 1: Chaos followed the end of the war, and we eventually
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  Speaker 1: had to restore order via the Constitution Convention in seventeen
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  Speaker 1: eighty seven and its ratification in seventeen eighty nine. It
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  Speaker 1: has provided ordered liberty and a pathway forward from that
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  Speaker 1: time forward. It had the original sin of slavery in it.
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  Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln ran for president in eighteen sixty saying, we
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  Speaker 1: have to end slavery. We have to do it a
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  Speaker 1: constitutional way. We will not take any one rights away
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  Speaker 1: from them, but will find a way to end slavery.
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  Speaker 1: The next revolution was the Confederacy's revolution, but I'll come
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  Speaker 1: to that in a moment. After the American Revolution gathered
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  Speaker 1: steam and succeeded in seventeen eighty nine, we have a constitution.
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  Speaker 1: The French through a revolution seventeen eighty nine to seventeen
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  Speaker 1: ninety nine. Ten years of hell, ten years of mobocracy,
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  Speaker 1: ten years of Robespierre and the guillotine everybody under there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they killed Louis the sixteenth Yeah, they killed Marie Antoinette.
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  Speaker 1: They killed everyone. They killed every aristocrat around. Finally Napoleon
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  Speaker 1: rolls in. What happens after you have a French revolution,
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  Speaker 1: you have a dictatorship. The next revolution I mentioned is
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  Speaker 1: the American Confederacy revolts against the United States Constitution. It's
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  Speaker 1: a long and bloody civil war eighteen sixty one to
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  Speaker 1: eighteen sixty five. It is suppressed. The restoration after that
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  Speaker 1: revolution goes on into nineteen sixty four in the Civil
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  Speaker 1: Rights Act because of bad decisions by the United States
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  Speaker 1: Supreme Court. But we continue to perfect our union. Ours
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  Speaker 1: is a divided government. Ours is a liberty loving land.
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  Speaker 1: The DSA hates our constitution because they want a French
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  Speaker 1: revolution where they are the power, where they have the
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  Speaker 1: central authority, where they get to decide everything. There is
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  Speaker 1: no Senate, there is no checks and balances, there is
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  Speaker 1: no individual liberty. There is the mass, the community, the dialectic.
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  Speaker 1: It became from the French Revolution. Lenin picked up Marx
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  Speaker 1: translated marks for Russian, imposed it on the poor Russian
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  Speaker 1: people in nineteen seventeen, murdered the Czar and his family
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen eighteen. The Russian Revolution lasted from nineteen seventeen
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  Speaker 1: till nineteen ninety one. It was hell on Earth for Russia,
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  Speaker 1: for the Soviet Union, for the Soviet Republics, for Eastern Europe,
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  Speaker 1: ended up in tyranny and despotism. It spread to China.
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  Speaker 1: Mao took it a step further. A lot of the
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  Speaker 1: DSA people are Maoists again, one person mau, one person,
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  Speaker 1: changing people and exiling them, Struggle sessions everywhere, crazy stuff.
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  Speaker 1: There are a couple other revolutions you gotta know about.
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  Speaker 1: We've got a couple in the Islamist world. They've been
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  Speaker 1: going on with the Muslim Brotherhood in Sunni Islam and
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  Speaker 1: with Hominiasm in Shia Islam for the last one hundred years.
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  Speaker 1: For variety of reasons. They are not what the DSA wants.
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  Speaker 1: So the DSA makes common cause in the Red Green Revolution.
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  Speaker 1: But last night, when Angie Nixon won, the Democratic Party
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  Speaker 1: reacted two ways, with fear and trembling. Because they do
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  Speaker 1: not control their party anymore. They ran Eugene Bidman. He's
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  Speaker 1: anti Trump completely. TDS made his bones, betraying Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 1: riding him out from the National Security Council, starting impeachment I.
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  Speaker 1: He carpetbagged into Florida, raised more than I think fifteen
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  Speaker 1: million dollars and expected to walk in over Angie Nixon.
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  Speaker 1: Angie Nixon beat him like a drum, and she did
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  Speaker 1: it being a leftist. Let's go back to a couple
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  Speaker 1: of Angie Nixon and cuts. Here she is on the
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  Speaker 1: Florida State House. She's a Florida State Rep. She's a
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  Speaker 1: lefty crazy dsay or cut number one, screaming with a bullhorn. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that'll work on the that'll work on the United States
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  Speaker 1: Senate floora Here she is on Rolling Mark and Martin's
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  Speaker 1: Unfiltered podcast, cut number two.
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  Speaker 3: And what that looks like is passing common sense legislation.
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  Speaker 2: Like medicare for all. Healthcare is a right.
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  Speaker 3: We should not be allowing people to deny life saving
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  Speaker 3: medical procedures or medicine because it's hurting someone's bottom line.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we need some.
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  Speaker 1: Make that's idiocy, but Medicare for all is a slogan
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  Speaker 1: they like. Here she is on with Morning Joe, cut
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  Speaker 1: number five.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to ask you where you stand on defunding
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  Speaker 4: the police, abolishing prisons, and opening up the border again,
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  Speaker 4: do you support any of those propositions?
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  Speaker 3: So what I support is making sure that we have
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  Speaker 3: law and order in this country, and that starts with
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  Speaker 3: making sure there's a full release of the Epstein files
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  Speaker 3: and that we hold people.
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  Speaker 1: Accountable Epstein files. Got that police law and order means
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  Speaker 1: Epstein file. Here she is with Jen Saki cut number six.
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  Speaker 5: Who remember the Democratic Socialists. There are a lot of
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  Speaker 5: candidates who have won in primaries who are members of
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  Speaker 5: the Democratic Socialists as well.
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  Speaker 6: You are also running.
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  Speaker 5: Though in a state Florida has as you well know,
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  Speaker 5: and a lot of people are watching though, a large
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  Speaker 5: population of people who fled countries like Cuba and Venezuela
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  Speaker 5: who may have a very unfavorable view of the term socialists,
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  Speaker 5: and they may not know you yet. So how what
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  Speaker 5: is your message to them? And how are you going
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  Speaker 5: to appeal to them because you need to win them over.
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  Speaker 3: To Yeah, so I'm going to continue to work hard
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  Speaker 3: and go and knock on every door and have conversations
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  Speaker 3: with people, even if they may not agree with me ideologically.
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  Speaker 3: I want to be clear, I just recently joined the
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  Speaker 3: Democratic Socialists of America, but I'm also a union organizer.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a mother, i am a wife, i am a
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  Speaker 3: community organizer, a small business owner, and I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Going to have actually since she joined the DSA, the
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  Speaker 1: DSA hates the American Constitution. She should know that. Last
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  Speaker 1: night her victory whoop cut number eight.
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  Speaker 3: And so I look forward, Ashley Moody, so taking you
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  Speaker 3: on into whooping you in November, and you will be
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  Speaker 3: calling me your senator.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to happen, Ashley Moody. Senator.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Moody was elected twice as Attorney General in Florida.
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  Speaker 1: She was appointed to fill the ark vacancy created by
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  Speaker 1: the appointment in Marco Rubio to the United States Secretary
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  Speaker 1: of State. Ashley Moody, I'll play her clip a little
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  Speaker 1: bit later, going right after the fact that this is
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  Speaker 1: the radicalization of the Democratic Party. You cannot vote for
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  Speaker 1: one Democrat cycle anywhere up or down the ticket, whether
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  Speaker 1: it's Angie Nixon in Florida, abdu Elsayed in Michigan, Troy
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  Speaker 1: Jackson in Maine, James tall Rico in Texas, I'm forgetting
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  Speaker 1: one of them, Peggy Flannagan in Minnesota. Their Senate candidates
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  Speaker 1: have all gone, like their House candidates, to the squad.
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  Speaker 1: They are crazy revolutionary, French revolutionary. It is not in
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  Speaker 1: the American political tradition. We do not believe in violence,
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  Speaker 1: We do not believe in destroying the Constitution, at least
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  Speaker 1: we never have before. And now the Democrats have been
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  Speaker 1: taken over by a clique that no longer wants to
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  Speaker 1: abide by the Constitution, wants to destroy the Constitution. And
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  Speaker 1: they are open and upfront about it. They are candid,
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  Speaker 1: and I give them credit for that. We'll talk with
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  Speaker 1: Mike Collins about how John Ossa fits into that in
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  Speaker 1: Georgia next on The Hugh Hewitt Show. Welcome back to America.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt, please to welcome Congressman Michael Collins. He
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  Speaker 1: is the Republican nominee for Senate in Georgia. And all
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  Speaker 1: eyes went to Georgia this week when John Osoff stopped
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  Speaker 1: being beige. He's the beige thundator from nowhere who says nothing.
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  Speaker 1: And this week he took a shot at a friend
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  Speaker 1: of mine, Natalie Art, and the world came down on
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  Speaker 1: his head because it was such a jerk thing to do, mean, spirit, slanderous,
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  Speaker 1: and he has not yet apologized, he's backed away from it.
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  Speaker 1: Congressman Mike Collins, what did you make about that? What
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  Speaker 1: was he trying to do and do Georgian's cotton to
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  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 7: Well, first of all, this I think this is even
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  Speaker 7: beneath politics, and you know politics has a real low
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  Speaker 7: bar anyway. But all he's doing is just political theater.
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  Speaker 7: He's just playing to this far left fringe that has
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  Speaker 7: taken over the Democrat Party and the pattern is very clear.
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  Speaker 7: You can see it out there. This will be the
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  Speaker 7: DSA candidate for president if they can keep him in
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  Speaker 7: this uiss And that's why we're out there ringing the
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  Speaker 7: bell as loud as we can to make sure that
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  Speaker 7: people across this country see just exactly.
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  Speaker 8: Who this guy is.
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  Speaker 7: And when you see what he said about Natalie and
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  Speaker 7: she has nothing to do with this campaign, but yeah,
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  Speaker 7: it just goes to show how he do moralizes and
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  Speaker 7: demeans and dehumanizes women.
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  Speaker 1: Now let's talk a little bit about us off overall,
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  Speaker 1: he's always had like a lucky life until he came
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  Speaker 1: up against you, Mike Collins. He always took on week
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  Speaker 1: week candidate. You're strong candidate, you got a good war chest.
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  Speaker 1: What's your website? By the way, where can people help
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  Speaker 1: you out? Volunteer in Georgia because we're on all over Georgia.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know who. They could go to, Mike COLLINSGA
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  Speaker 7: dot com. Look us up, join the convoy. Now, I'm
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  Speaker 7: in the trucking business, and that's why we call it
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  Speaker 7: a convoy. Get out there. Help us midterm elections. They
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  Speaker 7: are all about turnout, and we need help making sure
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  Speaker 7: that the voters turn out. We do that, we're gonna
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  Speaker 7: beat this rascal.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Mike. Last week yesterday, actually, Patrick Raffini, one of
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  Speaker 1: the great posters in America, did a thirty year look
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  Speaker 1: back at Senate polling and found that in three quarters
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  Speaker 1: of those polls they are biased towards Democrats, a specially
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  Speaker 1: in August. So I don't pay any attention to them.
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  Speaker 1: How does it feel to you? Are the polls capturing
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  Speaker 1: your momentum and the closeness of this race? Because John
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  Speaker 1: asofs never had a walkover ever.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, and he's never had a glove put
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  Speaker 7: on him. He's never had anybody to go up against him,
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  Speaker 7: because he didn't have anybody in a primary. We came
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  Speaker 7: out of a very tough primary, a very tough runoff,
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  Speaker 7: and then to be down. We were down twelve thirteen
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  Speaker 7: points during the first poll and now we're only down seven,
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  Speaker 7: so you know, he's spent ten million dollars on TV
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  Speaker 7: ads already. And for us to be gaining like we
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  Speaker 7: are doing, I mean, I think it just shows that
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  Speaker 7: the people of the state of Georgia are really paying attention.
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  Speaker 7: Even though it's August. They usually say Septembers when it
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  Speaker 7: cranks up. But for us to be gaining momentum like
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  Speaker 7: we are right now, and the national help out there
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  Speaker 7: is coming in, they're already here, Senate Leadership funds and
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  Speaker 7: all that they are motivated and ready to get in
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  Speaker 7: and help us win this thing.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I think that last night Angie Nixon winning in
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  Speaker 1: Florida opened a lot of people's eyes to the fact
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  Speaker 1: the Democrat prays, gone nuts. Do you run into Georgia voters,
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  Speaker 1: especially in communities of color, that say, this is not
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  Speaker 1: what we want a business, we want a chance, we
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  Speaker 1: want safe streets, we want a normal America.
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  Speaker 7: Sure we do. We run into it. It doesn't matter who
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  Speaker 7: it is. And in our minority coalitions, all of our
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  Speaker 7: coalitions out there have been going strong, whether it's moms
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  Speaker 7: from Mike, veterans from Mike, it doesn't matter. Asians, for Mike,
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  Speaker 7: We just we have a number of coalitions, but everybody,
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  Speaker 7: you hit the nail on the head, they want the
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  Speaker 7: same thing. They want. They want a safe environment for
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  Speaker 7: them and their kids. They want to be able to
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  Speaker 7: have the opportunities to chase their version of the American dream.
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  Speaker 7: You know, they want things to be affordable. And when
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  Speaker 7: you look at the two people that are running in
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  Speaker 7: this race between me and John Isof, I mean, this
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  Speaker 7: is probably the most crystal clear race in the country.
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  Speaker 7: It is the number one race in the country to flip.
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  Speaker 7: But when you look at us, you don't have to
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  Speaker 7: take either one of us work for where we stand
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  Speaker 7: on any issue. Just look at our voting record. You
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  Speaker 7: can look at our voting record and tell the John
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  Speaker 7: Osof is responsible for these high prices, for your healthcare
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  Speaker 7: going sky high, you know, for the borders being wide
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  Speaker 7: open that allowed these criminals to flood into our country.
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  Speaker 7: You know, people like Jose Ilbera that murdered Lake and
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  Speaker 7: Riley right here in my district. He's responsible for that.
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  Speaker 7: Then when he had the opportunities to change path and
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  Speaker 7: go with the rest of us to get this taxes
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  Speaker 7: under control and to put more money back in people's pockets. No,
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  Speaker 7: he was willing to double down and put high taxes
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  Speaker 7: on top of high prices. And it's because this guy
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  Speaker 7: is a trust fund kid. He's never had a real job.
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  Speaker 1: And you just mentioned Lincoln Riley. I got to tell
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  Speaker 1: the audience at a trail had that I had walked
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  Speaker 1: with at Fetching missus Hewett a few times. In McLean, Virginia,
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  Speaker 1: near Great Falls, a forty two year old mom was
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  Speaker 1: stabbed to death yesterday by the man that's been suspecting
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  Speaker 1: the illegal El Salvadorian immigrant who would in custody in
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  Speaker 1: the Biden administration at the border and was released into
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  Speaker 1: the interior of America. Killed a forty two year old
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  Speaker 1: mom with a daughter. I don't know anyone trusts a
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  Speaker 1: Democrat ever again after the collapse at the border for
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  Speaker 1: the last four years of Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 7: You know you And if you take a look at
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  Speaker 7: John Ossoff and the and and the way he is
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  Speaker 7: disparaged women over the course of his career, you can
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  Speaker 7: go back all the way to lacoln Riley. Now, he
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  Speaker 7: never helped lift a finger to get that piece of
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  Speaker 7: legislation moved. Wouldn't wouldn't even say her name. And then
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  Speaker 7: then when President Trump had Lincoln's mother at the State
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  Speaker 7: of the Union address and we stood up to give
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  Speaker 7: her respect, he just sat there. So there is a
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  Speaker 7: strong pattern of this guy and and just how he
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  Speaker 7: demoralizes and demeans women in this country. And it's just
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  Speaker 7: one of a pattern that that that falls in line
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  Speaker 7: with this DSA movement that is out there. I mean
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  Speaker 7: not only what he sees, but but how he votes
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  Speaker 7: is just so in line with this Democrat Socialist of
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  Speaker 7: American movement. When a guy votes ninety two percent of
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  Speaker 7: the time with Bernie Sanders, we have a problem here people.
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  Speaker 7: When DSA opens an office in Atlanta, Georgia, and they
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  Speaker 7: don't have but one candidate down here that they'll push,
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  Speaker 7: that is John Asoff. When John ASoft goes to Michigan
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  Speaker 7: and puts his support in wait behind this Abdul Lsied,
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  Speaker 7: the DSA candidate up there, he is not only promoting
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  Speaker 7: and recruiting those DSA people, He's one of them.
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  Speaker 1: And I believe is what this race is coming down to.
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  Speaker 1: I think all the Senate races have become one Senate race,
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  Speaker 1: which is, if you vote for the Democrat, you're voting
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  Speaker 1: for a radical French revolution kind of burnt all down
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  Speaker 1: Democratic Party that I'm seventy years old. I've never seen
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  Speaker 1: this in my lifetime. Mike Rogers, have.
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  Speaker 7: You no, you know, you're exactly right, and you take
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  Speaker 7: you look at there's probably only ten, maybe twelve percent
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  Speaker 7: of the country that right now that looks at this
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: from that standpoint. And that's a huge amount because there
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: have been come You can go back and look in
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: history at how many countries have been overthrown by less
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: than twenty percent of the population.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a revolutionary moment. One more time on
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: the website, Congressman soon to be Senator Mike Collins, where
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: do people go to find out about you?
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: There can go to Mike COLLINSGA dot com and look
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: us up and join in with us. We'd love to
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: have you, Hugh. I'm going to be your next US
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: Senator from George. I'm going to win this race.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to talking to you as Senator Collins
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: and having you on a Senator Collins, thank you, Senator.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Stay tuned to the Hugh Hewitt Show. Welcome back to America.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I'm Hugh HEWITTT. I'm joined now by one of our
• 18:38
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• 18:43
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• 18:46
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• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Channel and c SPAN. But Jonathan is a very good
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: looking man, even though he's from Michigan. And next week
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: you can see him live here. There's his pictures. A
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: very good looking man. He's got very good news for
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: us because I have been fretting over the Arizona Best
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: in the Nation's school choice which the teachers unions were
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: trying to kill. Tell us what happened, Jonathan.
• 19:09
  Speaker 9: Well, the good guys won one this week, Hugh in
• 19:12
  Speaker 9: Arizona where really you and I had talked about this
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  Speaker 9: a lot. I was out in Arizona this year talking
• 19:19
  Speaker 9: with all of our great ALEC members. Arizona's a powerhouse
• 19:22
  Speaker 9: ALEC delegation, and the teachers unions have come up short,
• 19:26
  Speaker 9: as ruled on by the Arizona Supreme Court confirming that
• 19:29
  Speaker 9: the number of signatures did fall short, and significantly so
• 19:33
  Speaker 9: of the total needed that they were going to take
• 19:36
  Speaker 9: to the fall ballot and make a huge effort to
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: try to repeal one of the nation's longest standing and
• 19:41
  Speaker 9: most effective education freedom programs, and it would have been
• 19:46
  Speaker 9: a travesty to the one hundred thousand plus students that
• 19:49
  Speaker 9: have now been able to participate in that program, really
• 19:52
  Speaker 9: just being a game changer for so many of those
• 19:54
  Speaker 9: students and their families. And so this is something as
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: you are very familiar with, ALEC launched and leads the
• 20:00
  Speaker 9: Education Freedom Alliance, and back before this was certified for
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: the ballot, we released an ad talking about the benefits
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: of school choice for Arizona. And I'll tell you what.
• 20:10
  Speaker 9: It would have been a massive problem across the country
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: if Arizona's program would have gone down this fall. And
• 20:16
  Speaker 9: so this is a major victory for Arizona and major
• 20:20
  Speaker 9: victory for school choice in our movement across the country.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Now, Alex sent me some details that I want to
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: share with the audience, Jonathan. To get an initiative, even
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: a bad initiative, under the ballot, you need two hundred
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and fifty forty nine signatures. The anti school choice gang
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: in Arizona submitted what they said were four hundred and
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: twenty one, four hundred fifty four hundred and twenty four
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty one signature. Turns out more than two
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand of those were bad. They were ineligible, they
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: were duplicates, they'd been collected by illegal signature collectors, and
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: they fell at least ten thousand short. And the Arizona
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Supame Court for how can you be that bad at cheating?
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  Speaker 9: John, Well, that's a great question, and it really does, though,
• 21:07
  Speaker 9: make you think that is all the progressive left Hue.
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: Their playbook, as you know, is to go across the states,
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: try to subvert the democratic process and try to put
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: all of these big progressive policies straight on the ballot
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: that sound great and yet being horrible policy outcomes. They
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: did it through supposed independent, nonpartisan redistricting in Michigan that
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: turned out to be one of the most aggressive gerrymanders
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: in the country for the progressive left. They do it
• 21:31
  Speaker 9: on minimum wage, they do it on Medicaid expansion, and
• 21:34
  Speaker 9: so I think this teaches all of us an important
• 21:36
  Speaker 9: lesson is conservatives across the country is check those signatures
• 21:40
  Speaker 9: and make sure that there's not a whole lot of
• 21:42
  Speaker 9: funny business going on, and there clearly was in this
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: case in Arizona.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: So John then a radical leftist won last night in
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Florida won the Democratic primary. She is a DSA or
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I bring her up because the national debt got the
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: forty trillion faster than anyone and all she's talking about
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: is Medicare for all. That would be another four to
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: five trillion dollars a year and it would ruin healthcare.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Do they think we're crazy?
• 22:07
  Speaker 9: Well, I think they know. Being in Michigan last week,
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: I saw the signs for mister Elsaad there, the radical
• 22:14
  Speaker 9: leftist that we've talked about on the show before, and
• 22:17
  Speaker 9: on his sign was Medicare for all. That was the
• 22:19
  Speaker 9: simple message. They think it works politically, They think that
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: people don't see through that. I think they're wrong. I
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: think Americans are seeing through it. The's so called Affordable
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: Care Act under Obama has clearly shown not to be
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: the case, and this would take it even to a
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: radical new dangerous degree. And to your point view here,
• 22:37
  Speaker 9: we are now going to hit forty trillion dollars of
• 22:39
  Speaker 9: debt probably this week. This is not something that could
• 22:43
  Speaker 9: be sustainable. The problem for Congress, of course, is so
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: much of this is done on autopilot, and so the
• 22:50
  Speaker 9: efforts from the Trump administration of getting to waste fraud
• 22:54
  Speaker 9: abuse through the Task Force on Fraud doctor Oz's efforts.
• 22:57
  Speaker 9: He came to speak, as you know, at the ALEC
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: Annual media. The work being done by russ Vote and
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: the OMB is all very, very important, but we've got
• 23:05
  Speaker 9: to tackle some of these big drivers, and this, of course,
• 23:08
  Speaker 9: the Medicare for All proposal would take that in the
• 23:11
  Speaker 9: absolute wrong direction in terms of costs.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: To get there, ALEC is not part of some but
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I'm a Republican. To get there, we need sixty two
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: sixty three Republican seats. Every Democrat you vote for is
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: a DSA or this year, and John knows. In Michigan
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: that's a DSA versus a normy Republican race, and in
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Florida it's a radical dsay or versus a Normie. Ashley Moody,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I think a former ALEC member as well, Jonathan Williams,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: always good to talk. Welcome back to America. I'm Hugh Hewett,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: joined up by Sarah Bedford of The Washington Examiner. She's
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: political investigations that are there, Sarah. I want to run
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: through the midterms with you, but a quick local story
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: for Beltway people like you and me My wife and
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I have hid the Great Falls McLain trail Head a
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: lot of times. And this morning when I read a
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: forty two year old mother, Carmen potch Puch was murdered
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: by an eighteen year old illegal alien, Alexis Antonios the
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Dios Campos with a blade knot. They worked at the
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: same restaurant in cold blood. Doesn't that make your blood
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: run cold?
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  Speaker 10: It's really terrible. And in this area, I mean, I
• 24:21
  Speaker 10: live in Fairfax County, which is Steve Descano's jurisdiction.
• 24:25
  Speaker 11: He's the Soros backs DA.
• 24:26
  Speaker 10: Around here, you just hear story after story of people
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: let out of jail who had violent pass who had
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: no business being on the streets, and also of illegal
• 24:36
  Speaker 10: immigrants who had no business being in the country committing
• 24:39
  Speaker 10: crimes around here. I mean, it's really tragic, and the
• 24:43
  Speaker 10: most angering part is easily preventable types of crimes.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I think this may end up being one of the
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: issues that merges into the DSA summer. And now we
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: go to the DSA summer. Last night, Angie Nixon defeated
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Eugene Benman despite having raised less than a million dollars.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Vinman had fifteen million dollar She is a DSA or
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: through and through. She's the first statewide DSA. L Saeed
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: was Hassan Piker in a different body suit. So DSA
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: adjacent the else I had Piker tickets now below forty percent,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: but Peggy Flying and James Tallerrico, Troy Jackson. I'm skipping somebody.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I suppose it's Chris Pappus in New Hampshire. Democrats have
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: lost control of their party. The DSA is running their party.
• 25:29
  Speaker 10: Yeah, they have people all over. You had some who
• 25:32
  Speaker 10: won in Colorado, some in New York congressional races. And
• 25:36
  Speaker 10: the problem for establishment Democrats is that they don't seem
• 25:39
  Speaker 10: to have any answer for what it is that the
• 25:42
  Speaker 10: DSA candidates are selling, right, I mean, the DSA candidates
• 25:44
  Speaker 10: are catching on because they're focusing primarily on economic issues,
• 25:49
  Speaker 10: and even though they do have these crazy leftist social views,
• 25:53
  Speaker 10: they're not focused as much on them as as past
• 25:56
  Speaker 10: progressives have been, like during Peak Woke, and so establishment
• 26:00
  Speaker 10: Democrats haven't really come up with a way to talk
• 26:03
  Speaker 10: about those same economic issues or offering any kind of
• 26:07
  Speaker 10: competing vision. And that's the challenge for Republicans is to
• 26:10
  Speaker 10: one expose why those economic proprosals from the DSA candidates
• 26:14
  Speaker 10: will never work and have never worked anywhere they've been tried,
• 26:17
  Speaker 10: but also have that compelling answer to the economic concerns.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Do you think that they're all got one thing in common?
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: They chant Medicare for all. That means single payer, single
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: player is driving one hundred thousand Canadians out of the
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: country on a permanent basis every year. Single payer is
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: broken in Great Britain. Obamacare didn't work. It made everything
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: worse twenty years ago. Do you think Medicare for all
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: is a winning pitch to people, especially those who know
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: someone on Medicare and tells them it ain't really great.
• 26:49
  Speaker 11: Well, the problem is that health care affordability is top
• 26:52
  Speaker 11: of mind for a lot of voters.
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: I mean DSA candidates who are really harping on Medicare
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: for All, which I would argue is probably like one
• 26:59
  Speaker 10: of their more sane proposals. They want to dismantle the
• 27:02
  Speaker 10: Senate and the Supreme Court in all kinds of other
• 27:04
  Speaker 10: US institutions, but health.
• 27:06
  Speaker 11: Care affordability is a really big problem.
• 27:08
  Speaker 10: So that goes to the DSA candidates who are able
• 27:11
  Speaker 10: to identify what is driving voters and come up with
• 27:14
  Speaker 10: these specific answers to the voters. Republicans have to come
• 27:19
  Speaker 10: up with something right. And that's the problem with the
• 27:22
  Speaker 10: Iran War in the eyes of a lot of Republicans
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: is that it kind of distracts them from being able
• 27:26
  Speaker 10: to coalesce around some sort of coherent, unifying answer to
• 27:31
  Speaker 10: these concerns about healthcare affordability and other issues like that.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I think Mike Johnson has made the issue a choice
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: election between the Democrats and the Craig left wing Craige
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: left wing Democrats and the moderate center right Republicans. That's
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: what he's trying to do. I think the framing is right.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: President Trump's leaning into Iran. But I want to go
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: back to the hatred of the United States Constitution. I
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: played a clip a few times this week of the
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: DSA National Committee. I'm not sure if the guy was
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the chair or just one of the five. So we
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: hate the Constitution. We got to get rid of the Constitution.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: That means they're French revolutionary. They believe in centralized national power.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: That's an anathema to America. Do you think that's changed
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 28:18
  Speaker 10: I think every time that you see these DSA leaders
• 28:23
  Speaker 10: get national exposure on any kind of even friendly podcast.
• 28:26
  Speaker 10: It's really embarrassing for them because their ideas are so
• 28:30
  Speaker 10: far outside the mainstream and it just sounds like what
• 28:34
  Speaker 10: like high college students would be talking about in a
• 28:36
  Speaker 10: dormitory late at night. It's just shocking that it's a
• 28:39
  Speaker 10: potent political party in today's America. But the more exposure
• 28:43
  Speaker 10: their ideas get, I think, the more that normal swing
• 28:46
  Speaker 10: voters will reject them. The challenge is not letting the
• 28:50
  Speaker 10: DSA members stay focused on the topics that might be
• 28:53
  Speaker 10: kind of popular, like Medicare for All that.
• 28:56
  Speaker 11: Is obviously catching on.
• 28:57
  Speaker 10: It's a reason why these DSA candidates are winning, and
• 28:59
  Speaker 10: that mass the far more radical ideology behind it, which
• 29:03
  Speaker 10: is dismantling the entire American project.
• 29:06
  Speaker 11: And that's what opponents of the DSA, even.
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: Other fellow Democrats who are more mainstream, can't lose sight of.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Will l saeed effect make it radioactive for Flanning in Minnesota,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Troy Jackson and Maine, John Ossoff in Georgia, Pappas in
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: New Hampshire, because he's below forty percent now in the
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: most recent poll today. That takes some work for a
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Democrat to get below forty percent in Michigan because he's
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: against taxic masculinity in football, he's against the fourth of July.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: It don't the like mackinaw Island and yesterday attracted the
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Woodward Boulevard Dreamer Cruise, dream Cruiser. It's the craziest anti
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Michigan Michigan campaign I've ever seen.
• 29:49
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Democrats have to be secretly fuming about this guy,
• 29:52
  Speaker 10: right because they already had an uphill battle to retake
• 29:55
  Speaker 10: the Senate. They needed to hold every seat that they had,
• 29:58
  Speaker 10: which includes Michigan, and then they had to pick off
• 30:02
  Speaker 10: what four Republicans, and so to be vulnerable in Michigan
• 30:07
  Speaker 10: where they.
• 30:07
  Speaker 11: Hold the seat right now really complicates the math.
• 30:10
  Speaker 10: It might even wipe out their chances of retaking the
• 30:13
  Speaker 10: Senate altogether.
• 30:14
  Speaker 11: And I mean, for what I'll say, I doesn't really
• 30:17
  Speaker 11: seem to.
• 30:18
  Speaker 10: Represent any constituency of the Democratic Party that's going to
• 30:22
  Speaker 10: help them in twenty twenty eight and beyond to repair
• 30:24
  Speaker 10: its brand with normal voters in places like Michigan.
• 30:27
  Speaker 11: So it seems like kind of a worst case scenario
• 30:30
  Speaker 11: for Democraty.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: It represents Hassan Piker Twitch subscribers, and there aren't enough
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: of them to get to one percent in Michigan. Sarah
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Bedford from the Washington Examiner. Follower on Exit, Sarah C. Bedford,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: reader in the Washington Examiner. Follow me to the next segment,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: and this week we welcome our Sea Span viewers, se
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Span two. I believe I go heavy on candidates. I
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: like to talk to candidates. And the next one is
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: a real keeper for this year. Michael Wattley. Michael is
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: a Republican nominee in North Carolina. He's on with me
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: monthly because I think he can win. Not a lot
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: of Democrats feel worried about this, but they should. Michael,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: You're running against the only quote normal Democrat. Last night,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Angie Nixon won in Florida and the Democratic Party has
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: fallen to the DSA. What does Roy Cooper say about
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: his party, which had been taken over by French Revolution radicals.
• 31:20
  Speaker 12: He's glad to see it. Roy Cooper is a card
• 31:22
  Speaker 12: carrying member of the radical extreme Democrats. He is going
• 31:26
  Speaker 12: to have the exact same voting record if he were
• 31:29
  Speaker 12: to get into the Senate as James tall Rico, as
• 31:31
  Speaker 12: Abdula l said, and miss Dixon down in Florida. So no,
• 31:36
  Speaker 12: this is a guy who has always run on the
• 31:38
  Speaker 12: radical side of the Democratic Party, and he's going to
• 31:42
  Speaker 12: be very comfortable there if he gets into the Senate. Fortunately,
• 31:45
  Speaker 12: North Carolina is not going to vote for the worst
• 31:47
  Speaker 12: governor in the history of North Carolina. They're going to
• 31:50
  Speaker 12: send a conservative champion up there to Washington, d C.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: So, Michael Whiteley, we've got a new audience. Introduce yourself please,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: and tell people where they can find out about you.
• 32:00
  Speaker 12: Sure so I am. I'm out of North Carolina. Grew
• 32:04
  Speaker 12: up in a little tiny town called Blowing Rock, North Carolina,
• 32:07
  Speaker 12: five hundred and thirty four people, and you know, went
• 32:10
  Speaker 12: to church, I went to school, and I worked and
• 32:13
  Speaker 12: worked all the way through college, worked all the way
• 32:15
  Speaker 12: through law school and graduate school. Been married for twenty
• 32:18
  Speaker 12: six years, three great kids. Had a chance to work
• 32:21
  Speaker 12: for President Bush. Worked as Elizabeth Doles chief of staff.
• 32:24
  Speaker 12: And I'm really excited about being a conservative champion for
• 32:28
  Speaker 12: North Carolina.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: You also were the chairman of the Republican National Committee.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: You know that parties have to be big tents. The
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Democratic Party blew out the flaps, Michael Wattley. They really
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: have gone over the left edge. Are voters aware of that?
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: In North Carolina.
• 32:44
  Speaker 12: Yeah, they're learning it right now. I think you know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 12: President Trump carried this state three straight times in twenty sixteen,
• 32:50
  Speaker 12: twenty twenty, and twenty twenty four. We've won the Senate
• 32:54
  Speaker 12: races here. North Carolina does not want crazy left. They
• 32:58
  Speaker 12: don't want crazy extremists like Roy Cooper. You know, this
• 33:02
  Speaker 12: is a guy who fought harder for criminals, illegal aliens,
• 33:06
  Speaker 12: and men who want to play in girls sports than
• 33:08
  Speaker 12: he has the people of North Carolina. He's always wanted
• 33:11
  Speaker 12: to raise taxes and send that money to Raleigh. Now
• 33:14
  Speaker 12: he wants to spend it, send it up to Washington,
• 33:18
  Speaker 12: d C. So you know, we've got a very clear
• 33:21
  Speaker 12: contrast in this election. I'm going to fight for North Carolina.
• 33:25
  Speaker 12: I'm going to fight for common sense values, and Roy
• 33:27
  Speaker 12: Cooper is going to fight for radical, extreme liberal ideology.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Roy Cooper and Charlotte have made the news more often
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: than any other state for terrible, horrific crimes. But Virginia's
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: catching up this very morning, and a trailhad in McLain
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: at the edge of Great Falls, a trail I've walked
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: with my wife forty four years. Many times. An illegal
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: alien murdered a forty two year old mother in cold
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: blood in McClain. And you know, Michael Wiley, that's a stunner.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: It happens on your metro system in Charlotte. Do you
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: think the people have forgotten two years ago or where
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: all these criminals came from? Not at all.
• 34:07
  Speaker 12: You know, the fact is that Roy Cooper had two
• 34:10
  Speaker 12: policies that kind of came together horrifically in North Carolina
• 34:14
  Speaker 12: exactly one year ago this week. His revolving door that
• 34:18
  Speaker 12: he put in place with cashless baled pre try release
• 34:21
  Speaker 12: put criminals back on the streets again and again and again.
• 34:24
  Speaker 12: As soon as the paperwork was done, violent criminals were
• 34:27
  Speaker 12: put back onto the streets twenty thirty, forty to fifty
• 34:30
  Speaker 12: times or more. And then he released over forty two
• 34:33
  Speaker 12: hundred criminals, hardened criminals out of North Carolina's prisons because
• 34:38
  Speaker 12: he didn't want them to get COVID. And among those
• 34:41
  Speaker 12: criminals was a guy named de Carlos Brown Junior, who
• 34:44
  Speaker 12: was then rearrested and re released thirteen more times before
• 34:48
  Speaker 12: he got on a light rail car last year, almost
• 34:52
  Speaker 12: one year ago this week, and brutally murdered Arena Zerotska,
• 34:56
  Speaker 12: a beautiful Ukrainian refugee. It was on cam. It is
• 35:00
  Speaker 12: a horrific video, and he murdered her in cold blood,
• 35:04
  Speaker 12: and her blood is on Roy Cooper's hands. I wish
• 35:08
  Speaker 12: that that was the end of the story. But there's
• 35:09
  Speaker 12: twenty four other families right now who have empty seats
• 35:13
  Speaker 12: at the table every Thanksgiving, every Christmas and every Easter
• 35:17
  Speaker 12: going forward because Roy Cooper put those criminals back on
• 35:20
  Speaker 12: the streets to commit their crimes.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Now. I don't get to Charlotte often, and I haven't
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: been in a number of years. It used to be
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: a fairly relatively safe and sleepy banking center of the South.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: What's happened to it?
• 35:34
  Speaker 12: Well, Roy Cooper let forty two hundred hardened criminals out.
• 35:37
  Speaker 12: Now twenty two hundred of them have since been re arrested.
• 35:41
  Speaker 12: And fortunately, as soon as Arena was murdered, I called
• 35:45
  Speaker 12: on the state legislature to pass legislation to roll back
• 35:49
  Speaker 12: Roy Cooper's soft on crime policies.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: They did.
• 35:52
  Speaker 12: They they voted in Arena's law, and Roy Cooper's protege,
• 35:56
  Speaker 12: Governor Josh Stein, who is a Democrat, actually find that
• 36:00
  Speaker 12: important legislation to roll back Roy cooper soft on crime policies,
• 36:04
  Speaker 12: so we're getting it back under control. But Cooper really
• 36:08
  Speaker 12: did put criminals in charge, whether it's in Charlotte, Raleigh,
• 36:12
  Speaker 12: or anywhere else across the state.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: And I want to remind, especially our national audience or
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I see SPAN audience that don't normally see that. I
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: want to remind them what happened in western North Carolina
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: with the hurricane, because boy did Roy Cooper drop the
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: ball with Joe Biden. Two balls dropped North Carolina still
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: paying the price out in the western part of the state.
• 36:30
  Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, Roy Cooper wasn't even in North Carolina
• 36:33
  Speaker 12: when Hurricane Helene hit us on September twenty seventh of
• 36:36
  Speaker 12: twenty twenty four. He was up in New York City
• 36:38
  Speaker 12: at a climate change gala ball. He showed up a
• 36:41
  Speaker 12: week later, held a press conference, and then completely turned
• 36:45
  Speaker 12: his back on the people of North Carolina. He vetoed
• 36:48
  Speaker 12: hurricane recovery legislation, and what we saw from Joe Biden
• 36:52
  Speaker 12: and FEMA was an absolute disaster. President Trump has asked
• 36:55
  Speaker 12: me to help make sure we get federal recovery going
• 36:59
  Speaker 12: down here in North caarea. Since he came into office,
• 37:02
  Speaker 12: ten point seventy five billion dollars in hurricane relief that
• 37:05
  Speaker 12: we've brought into western North Carolina. Ninety nine percent of
• 37:09
  Speaker 12: the roads, ninety nine percent of the bridges have been rebuilt.
• 37:12
  Speaker 12: We've got the water systems. The wastewater drinking systems are
• 37:14
  Speaker 12: up and running. Towns like Chimney Rock and Lake Lure
• 37:18
  Speaker 12: are back open for the summer season.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: It's a miracle.
• 37:21
  Speaker 12: Now, we're not ready to declare mission accomplished by any
• 37:24
  Speaker 12: stretch of the imagination, but there's a lot of work
• 37:26
  Speaker 12: that has gone into this very strong and very resilient
• 37:30
  Speaker 12: part of the state since Roy Cooper and Joe Biden
• 37:33
  Speaker 12: exited stage left.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: So last question Michael Watley Yesterday, the very respected pulling
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: data gate. Patrick Raffini, he's a PhD, put out a
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: study of thirty years of Senate pulling. It found in
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: more than three quarters of the races there are biased
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: polls for Democrats, and they are at their most biased
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: in the August of off year election. Meaning whatever poll
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: is about Roy Cooper and Michael Wattley right now is
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: the worst polls that you'll deal with. Do they in
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: any way cause you to lose hope or energy because
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: they're all fake?
• 38:09
  Speaker 12: No, not at all. I mean we saw in every
• 38:11
  Speaker 12: single poll in Tom Tillis's two Senate races, he trailed,
• 38:15
  Speaker 12: and yet he won those races. Ted bud Led was
• 38:18
  Speaker 12: losing in every single poll and he won his race.
• 38:21
  Speaker 12: Richard Burr was losing in every single poll and won
• 38:24
  Speaker 12: every race. I mean, heck, go all the way back
• 38:26
  Speaker 12: to Jesse Helms never let a pole, never lost a race.
• 38:29
  Speaker 12: Right now, the polls show us about four points down.
• 38:32
  Speaker 12: Historically you will see about a five to six point
• 38:35
  Speaker 12: shift in those poles, as Patrick Graffini talks about. So
• 38:38
  Speaker 12: we feel very good. And I've been to all one
• 38:40
  Speaker 12: hundred counties across this state and I have talked to
• 38:43
  Speaker 12: people in the mountains, people at the coast, people in
• 38:45
  Speaker 12: the cities, people in rural areas, and the one thing
• 38:48
  Speaker 12: that I consistently hear from everybody, they want a champion.
• 38:51
  Speaker 12: They want somebody who's going to fight for them. They
• 38:53
  Speaker 12: know that Roy Cooper's going to fight for criminals, He's
• 38:56
  Speaker 12: going to fight for illegal aliens. He's going to fight
• 38:58
  Speaker 12: for men who want to play in women's sports. I'm
• 39:00
  Speaker 12: gonna fight for law enforcement. I'm gonna fight for our families.
• 39:03
  Speaker 12: I'm going to fight for our faith. I'm gonna fight
• 39:05
  Speaker 12: for every community in North Carolina. That's what the people want,
• 39:08
  Speaker 12: That's what they're going to vote for in November.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: And what is the website? Michael Wattley Michael Wadley dot com.
• 39:15
  Speaker 12: They can follow me on x at WATTLEYNC, but Michael
• 39:19
  Speaker 12: Wiley dot com. They can sign up, they can support us,
• 39:22
  Speaker 12: and they can also volunteer there.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Michael, Thank you, I should say, mister chairman,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: good to see you again. Tach you next month as
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: we get a race update every month from Michael Wattley.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Welcome back to America. I'm Hugh Hewett.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: United States Senator Jim Tallan, now retired from the Senate,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Senior Fellow at the Reagan Institute Center for Peace through Strength,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: knows his way around campaigns. He's been listening to the
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: rhetoric Angie Nixon dsa hardliner Medicare for all. Jim, I'm
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: not sure what they think they're doing, but they're going
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: to drive a dagger through the beating heart of the
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: center left Democratic Party by making it the French Revolution Party.
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I imagine Ashley Moody's pretty happy today. But you know,
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: you we got to run strong campaigns, and I think
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: it means, among other things, taking on this whole affordability issue.
• 40:13
  Speaker 8: Because you want to talk affordability. You remember what inflation
• 40:18
  Speaker 8: was in twenty twenty one, which was Biden's first year.
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: You officially it was seven percent. It was actually higher
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: than that. They were fudging the numbers. It was six
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: and a half percent in twenty twenty three. It never
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: got as low in any year under Biden as it
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: was in Trump's first year. So if you want to
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: solve the affordability question, and we got problems with it,
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: you don't want to elect the people who made everything
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: unaffordable in the first place. And I just you know,
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: it's drug.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Down the campaign GYM. Medicare for All is the only
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: slogan that El said in Michigan, Nixon and Florida, Troy
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Jackson in Maine, Plan again in Minnesota, tall Ico in Texas,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Pappas in New Hampshire. That's the only thing they say
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: is Medicare for all. It doesn't mean anything other than
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: ruining medicare.
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll tell you why they're saying it. You you
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: have to understand how politicians think. So they have to
• 41:19
  Speaker 8: say something that appeals to this DSA wing now than
• 41:23
  Speaker 8: the ones who are dsay, yeah, they want to do that.
• 41:26
  Speaker 8: The others like pampas. They've got to do that. And
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: this is the only it's only a slogan, This is
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: the only one that polls reasonably well well. The reason
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: it polls reasonably well is because it hasn't become visible
• 41:38
  Speaker 8: enough for senior citizens to understand what it means. What
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: it means. It's a dagger at the heart of Medicare.
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: They're going to defund Medicare, which they've been trying to do.
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: Go back and look at Obamacare, how they were going
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: to pay for the original versions of it. They want
• 41:52
  Speaker 8: to defund Medicare and build this new government program they
• 41:55
  Speaker 8: may call it Medicare or not, and dump everybody in it,
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: and it'll be a out as affordable. It will be
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: less affordable than the Affordable Care Act. So, I mean
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: this is I'm on Medicare now you I really don't
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: want them to destroy Medicare. I mean, you know it's
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: Medicare has its problems, but you know it's it's provided
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: pretty good healthcare for tens and tens and tens of
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: millions of people for a long time, and we don't
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: want to mess with it. I mean, the basic problem
• 42:23
  Speaker 8: they've got you is, if you're going to have a nationalized,
• 42:26
  Speaker 8: a socialized healthcare system, and even the serious proponents of
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: this will admit it, you have to have everybody in
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: the system. I mean, it doesn't work otherwise. And that
• 42:37
  Speaker 8: means Medicare has got to go. It means private health insurance,
• 42:40
  Speaker 8: big company insurance that people like it's got to go.
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: It means state and federal employee health.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Care, right care has got to go. Union play you
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: have been negotiated around decades have to go. So, Jim,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: you were talking to miss the story on drug prices.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: What happened to drug prices?
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: Well, they went down three percent, which is the biggest
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: drop in drug prices in sixty years. And when I
• 43:06
  Speaker 8: saw it, I couldn't believe it. I didn't recall a
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: single year when I was in office when drug prices
• 43:12
  Speaker 8: went down at all. And this is the result of
• 43:14
  Speaker 8: a very focused effort by the administration. Is a number
• 43:17
  Speaker 8: of things they're doing. I'm not an expert on it.
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: You can get people on it who are experts, but
• 43:23
  Speaker 8: part of it is We're no longer going to subsidize
• 43:26
  Speaker 8: all the lower drug prices around the country so that
• 43:30
  Speaker 8: our consumers end up paying higher prices pardon me, around
• 43:34
  Speaker 8: the world, so that the Canadians and the others can
• 43:37
  Speaker 8: get drugs at lower prices. They're doing a series of things,
• 43:40
  Speaker 8: and you this manufacturing boom we've talked about, this is coming.
• 43:44
  Speaker 8: Productivity is up, investment is up. Real income for families
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: is already up by about three thousand dollars. And when
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: you start what is what?
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: So I just want to say, interrupting ran I would
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: run the campaign, and I think Mike Johnson is doing.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: It's a choice between center right Republicans doing free market
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: solutions and deregulation and left wing radicals who are who
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: actually have said they hate the Constitution. And you know,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I think most Americans like the Constitution, Jim Tellan, I
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: think they like liberty.
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: And what do you think A big, a big feature
• 44:23
  Speaker 8: of the average Republican stump speech needs to be that,
• 44:26
  Speaker 8: And whether you're running explicitly against one of these people
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: or not, because as I said before, I mean those
• 44:34
  Speaker 8: who are not in the DSA now have to energize
• 44:37
  Speaker 8: that wing in order to win whether they're not going
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: to I mean, you're not going to have Papus in
• 44:41
  Speaker 8: New Hampshire talking explicitly about abolishing all the prisons or
• 44:45
  Speaker 8: abolishing the police, or getting rid of the constitution. So
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: they'll pick and choose among in the DSA platform amongst
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: try and pull out some things they can sanitize, and
• 44:57
  Speaker 8: they'll talk about that. And so this is where the
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: quality of the candidates comes into play. This is where
• 45:02
  Speaker 8: you have to have a powerful, credible message that focuses
• 45:06
  Speaker 8: people on exactly the differences that Mike Johnson was talking about.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Did you see Patrick Graffini study yesterday one of the
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: academic posters the average bias in more than three quarters
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: of the races in the Senate is five and a
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: half percent, and it's worse in August than any other time.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Did you always run into that where your Senate numbers
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: always giggly and august and ridiculous.
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: Well, you I paid attention generally speaking to my own numbers,
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: and other was what we were doing internally. And one
• 45:39
  Speaker 8: of the reasons for that is you could see trends
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: over time. And of course I trusted my polster, but
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: I mean it was a different time you. I mean,
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: it's been twenty years since I ran, and I think
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: the polls were better now. Part of this we have
• 45:51
  Speaker 8: to be fair. It's just harder to get a hold
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: of the kind of samples you need. I think it's
• 45:56
  Speaker 8: probably also harder to turn out models. But I'm I'd
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: be surprised if there wasn't a lot of bias built
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: into that as well. So it is a I saw
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: your tweet on it. I didn't actually read the story,
• 46:07
  Speaker 8: but I wasn't surprised by it.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Now would you penal If you're a university Saint Anselom
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: or Marquette, and you do a poll and it's wrong
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: by more than the margin of error? Would you continue polling?
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's bad for your university.
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: I think I'd hold my pollsters accountable, and you know,
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: i'd make them tell me why what went wrong and
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: why do they think it won't go wrong again? And
• 46:34
  Speaker 8: they're good polling, you know, Henry Olsen is good. There's
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: a lot of good ones out there, but they're and
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: of course what you're reading are typically averages, so you're
• 46:42
  Speaker 8: getting the good ones, but it's also averaged against the
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: ones that aren't so good.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm I thought Raffini's piece ought to go far
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• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Have you read The Looming Easy?
• 50:08
  Speaker 15: Oh boy, you know what this is? Embarrassing you. I
• 50:11
  Speaker 15: read portions of it about when I was in high school.
• 50:13
  Speaker 15: But it's been a long time, so I got.
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  Speaker 1: To get on that. It's the keystone tech for our time. Now.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about it a way.
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  Speaker 15: I'm sorry that misled you in this way.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: You're a serience scholar, You're an Oxford guy. Tell us
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: about your education.
• 50:29
  Speaker 15: Sure well, I am a classicist through and through for
• 50:33
  Speaker 15: my sins as penitents. I grew up in a house
• 50:37
  Speaker 15: filled with books.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 50:38
  Speaker 15: My dad as a literary man as well, and I
• 50:41
  Speaker 15: was very blessed to be surrounded by just a beautiful
• 50:47
  Speaker 15: home library. And we had this rule at home that
• 50:51
  Speaker 15: you couldn't organize the books because that way, when you
• 50:53
  Speaker 15: went looking for one book, another one would fall off
• 50:56
  Speaker 15: the shelf and you'd get missed, you waylaid, and you'd
• 50:59
  Speaker 15: find something else you were excited about. So for me,
• 51:02
  Speaker 15: from a very young age, you know, I learned that
• 51:05
  Speaker 15: being surrounded by books meant being surrounded by friends, and
• 51:08
  Speaker 15: especially the Greek and Latin classics. I was twelve years
• 51:12
  Speaker 15: old lying on my grandparents' floor flipping through the Richmond
• 51:16
  Speaker 15: Lattimore translation of the Odyssey, and so I never saw
• 51:20
  Speaker 15: a chance, really, and you know, it was plus of course,
• 51:23
  Speaker 15: it's such a lucrative career to go Greek and Latin,
• 51:28
  Speaker 15: so I figured I'd make a pile. And you know,
• 51:31
  Speaker 15: I went to Oxford, as you mentioned in my PhD
• 51:35
  Speaker 15: in classics there, and I think because I had that
• 51:38
  Speaker 15: background of it, I just described, you know, I was
• 51:41
  Speaker 15: kind of inoculated against the idea that, it turned out
• 51:44
  Speaker 15: was very current and trendy that actually old books are evil,
• 51:48
  Speaker 15: They're the kind of oppressive and backward, and there they
• 51:52
  Speaker 15: come from the time when you know, everybody was racist
• 51:55
  Speaker 15: and sexist, and I just am in it for the
• 51:58
  Speaker 15: love of the game. So, you know, I am one
• 52:00
  Speaker 15: of those academics you're always hearing about. But I hope
• 52:04
  Speaker 15: that I've kind of retained a sense that really, what
• 52:06
  Speaker 15: this stuff is that I'm interested in is kind of
• 52:10
  Speaker 15: a secret society across time and space of great minds
• 52:14
  Speaker 15: that we get to be a part of.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: What is your ambition for a life as a public
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: intellectual what do you want to achieve?
• 52:23
  Speaker 15: I hope that if at my time on this earth
• 52:28
  Speaker 15: does anything, I hope it will reconnect the average person
• 52:36
  Speaker 15: with the liberal arts, and that is to say, the
• 52:40
  Speaker 15: highest pursuits of the human soul. When you have taken
• 52:44
  Speaker 15: care of your material needs, when your family is safe
• 52:47
  Speaker 15: and comfortable, when your email chain is optimized, when you've
• 52:51
  Speaker 15: got your supplement stack, or whatever it is that you
• 52:54
  Speaker 15: feel like you need to kind of get in line.
• 52:57
  Speaker 15: What are you going to do with your free time?
• 52:58
  Speaker 15: What are you going to do when you're sitting at
• 53:00
  Speaker 15: home alone? You're going to scroll through cat videos? Are
• 53:03
  Speaker 15: you going to flip on a gambling website? Or are
• 53:07
  Speaker 15: you going to enrich your soul with the best that
• 53:11
  Speaker 15: has been thought and said? And I think making that
• 53:13
  Speaker 15: alive for people again, clearing past a lot of the
• 53:16
  Speaker 15: detritus that's kind of accumulated around that and some of
• 53:20
  Speaker 15: the misuse. I think that the modern academy has made
• 53:24
  Speaker 15: of its position in the world. If I can help
• 53:27
  Speaker 15: people to reconnect with their tradition and with their inheritance,
• 53:31
  Speaker 15: are cultural inheritance as citizens not just of America but
• 53:35
  Speaker 15: of the West, then I think all have done my job.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, you all have done a great job, and I
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: think you're doing it all right. We're going to skim
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: along at seventy five miles an hour because I want
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: to cover two more things at least. First, what's in
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: the Young Heretics? What will people get if they like
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: and subscribe to the Young Heretics.
• 53:51
  Speaker 15: Young Heretics is the classical education. You didn't know you
• 53:55
  Speaker 15: were missing a lot of us, I think myself, to
• 53:58
  Speaker 15: some extent included, grew up without fully realizing just what
• 54:05
  Speaker 15: riches are available to us in the tradition that we
• 54:08
  Speaker 15: think of as the West. And when I talk about
• 54:09
  Speaker 15: the West, I mean Athens, that is to say, the
• 54:13
  Speaker 15: philosophy and the drama and literature of the Greco Roman world,
• 54:19
  Speaker 15: and then Jerusalem, which is shorthand for the wisdom traditions
• 54:23
  Speaker 15: of the great monotheistic Jewish and Christian practices. And so
• 54:28
  Speaker 15: when you come onto Young Heretics every episode, every week,
• 54:32
  Speaker 15: I spend an hour just cracking open one of those books.
• 54:35
  Speaker 15: Right now, we're going through Dante's Divine Comedy, reading through
• 54:38
  Speaker 15: the Inferno at the moment, and hopefully you know it's
• 54:42
  Speaker 15: a high brow without being too stuffy, and we just
• 54:46
  Speaker 15: we're called young heretics because we just dispensed with the
• 54:49
  Speaker 15: current academic dogma that in order to understand this stuff
• 54:52
  Speaker 15: you first have to perform acts of contrition and self
• 54:55
  Speaker 15: flagellation for existing in the world American or a person.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: That is very attractive. Now, I want to turn to
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Away with Words, and the Lunch law from Frank Lunch
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: is you've got to say the title of a book
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: seven times, away with words, Away with words, a way
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: with words, or otherwise someone listening is intrigued by the
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: premise you're going to put out in three or four
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: minutes here about what the books about it intended to do.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: They won't remember the title. So I've covered the seven
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Away with Words by Spencer Claven. What's it about, Spencer?
• 55:28
  Speaker 15: The problem with saying this title seven times is it
• 55:30
  Speaker 15: sounds like you might be saying away with words in
• 55:32
  Speaker 15: spense with language, and that's the opposite of what I
• 55:35
  Speaker 15: mean to say. I'm saying here's something that is very
• 55:38
  Speaker 15: ancient but very urgent for the modern era with the
• 55:42
  Speaker 15: advent of day I, and that is mankind is alone
• 55:46
  Speaker 15: among the animals in his ability to use language. That's
• 55:49
  Speaker 15: something Aristotle said but it's also something you find across
• 55:53
  Speaker 15: many different wisdom traditions and civilizations throughout time.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: The idea that.
• 55:59
  Speaker 15: Our ability not just to speak words, but to understand
• 56:02
  Speaker 15: the order of the universe and express it in language
• 56:05
  Speaker 15: makes us unique, makes us irreplaceable, As the subtitle of
• 56:08
  Speaker 15: the book says, obviously, that's something that people are now
• 56:11
  Speaker 15: calling into the question now that our boss seem to
• 56:14
  Speaker 15: be able to spit out poetry and sonnets and other
• 56:17
  Speaker 15: things that we thought only humans could do. But the
• 56:20
  Speaker 15: book makes an extended argument that that's actually not the
• 56:24
  Speaker 15: same thing as what humans are doing when we understand
• 56:27
  Speaker 15: the word and when we connect with the order of
• 56:29
  Speaker 15: the universe that we alone are able to discern, understand,
• 56:33
  Speaker 15: and enrich ourselves with.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: So that's the book.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to read this and in fact, if
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: your publisher will send me a copy, we'll talk. We'll
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: do a book interview on a serious book interview. Brian
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Lamb taught me how to do book interviews and don't
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: do a book interview unless you've read the book. And
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I really want to talk to you about that book,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: but I also want to talk to you about last week.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Matt Continetti triggered me. Ask me if i'd read Russell
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Kirks The Roots of American Order. I can't remember. I did,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I couldn't get it. So I
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: got the conservative mind, and I just finished the chapter
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: on Adams last night and not I had forgotten all
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: this because it's been forty years. Do you have a
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: favorite conservative philosopher from modernity?
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: Oh?
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  Speaker 15: Boy, I'm not sure if C. S. Lewis counts beIN.
• 57:20
  Speaker 15: Oh yeah, he's British.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay. It was one of the most important books
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: anyone can read.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad you said that.
• 57:29
  Speaker 15: Some people think that's kind of a deep cut out,
• 57:31
  Speaker 15: but I completely agree. It's one of the great novels
• 57:33
  Speaker 15: of the twentieth century. And I would say that Lewis
• 57:36
  Speaker 15: is not just my favorite conservative intellectual. He is, in
• 57:39
  Speaker 15: fact the greatest public intellectual of the twentieth century. And
• 57:44
  Speaker 15: he sometimes slept on because he's so eloquent and intelligible,
• 57:48
  Speaker 15: because normal people can read him with pleasure. But you
• 57:51
  Speaker 15: mentioned that hideous strength, which I really think of as
• 57:53
  Speaker 15: the fictional version of the abolition of man, which is
• 57:56
  Speaker 15: his lectures he gave on fiction, and the two of
• 57:59
  Speaker 15: them together could have been written about five minutes ago.
• 58:03
  Speaker 15: I think the understanding and there what people do, how
• 58:07
  Speaker 15: people destroy themselves when they give their their lives over
• 58:09
  Speaker 15: to technology and materialism is just exquisite.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: So that would be how on the nose it is.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: It's absolutely creepy. So Spencer, are you a Catholic? Are
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: you an Evangelical? What are you?
• 58:23
  Speaker 15: Well, I'm not a Catholic, No, although I call myself
• 58:26
  Speaker 15: kind of we'll work on that. I like to culturally
• 58:28
  Speaker 15: appropriate catholic Yeah, well, I like to culturally appropriate.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Catholicism a lot.
• 58:31
  Speaker 15: You know Perry the Rosary, and I think it's, you know,
• 58:34
  Speaker 15: one of the great intellectual tradictions. But no, I'm kind
• 58:37
  Speaker 15: of a high Church Anglican. I was baptized when I
• 58:39
  Speaker 15: was eighteen.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: We got to get you across the Tiber. Yeah, last question?
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Which college at Oxford?
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 58:47
  Speaker 15: I'm modeling for my doctors college impact of course.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: And so you've been at Clermont for how long?
• 58:53
  Speaker 9: Now?
• 58:55
  Speaker 15: This would be my seventh year. I think time time fly.
• 58:59
  Speaker 15: So I'm the associate editor of the CRB and the director.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: You got to get the Hillsdale somehow. We got to talk.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: We got to work on that. Larry arn does what
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: you do, but he's been doing it with me in
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: the Hillsdale Dialogue weekly for the last thirteen years. And Spencer,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: we're going to have you back Away with Words by
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Spencer Claven follows Spencer on x at Surprisingly Spencer Claven
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: and go look up the Young Heretics podcast and go
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: order Away with Words. Spencer. A joy to meet you,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Ben was right. I look forward to talking to you
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. Got to get you on
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: the regular rotation here on the Hugh Hewitt Show. Welcome
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Back in America. I'm Hugh Hewett, please to welcome back.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: A Meet. Segal a Meet is the anchor of the
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Channel twelve Meet Depress in Israel. He's also their chief
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: political correspondent, author of a fabulous book, The Call at
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: four Am, that dives into the Israeli political system, and
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I hope to talk to him a couple of times
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: in the last two months before the Israeli election. A Meet.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Let's start with the Channel twelve Paul last Night, twenty
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  Speaker 1: four seats and coude to the Eisencott Party twenty two,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: who's like could fifteen two together? And then two headlines,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Lieberman won't serve with the minority government led by Oisen
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Kott and the joint list at three Era party he
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: still doesn't have or Ahman at the Islamist Party. Put
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: it all together, what's it mean, Who's going to run
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: our most important ally for American.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 6: So it's very very interesting and not as confusing as
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 6: it might look in the first look. In order to win,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: one needs sixty one seats at the Connects out of
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: As we speak, no one has this number.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: NATHANIELO, according to most of the mainstream media polls, is
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: legging way behind the Eisenkoten decenter left with something like
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: fifty to fifty fifty two seats, which is going to
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: be his worst defeat since since two thousand and six. However,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 6: according to Challenges fourteen polls, Child fourteen is like I
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: don't know Foxies or news Max or seven. So NATANIAO
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  Speaker 6: is going to have his best victory in his entire
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  Speaker 6: political career. So it's quite confusing and it cannot be
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: explained by merely the margins, etc. So I would like
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: to stick to my Channel twelve poll which still shows
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  Speaker 6: that Eisencott will have hard times to form a coalition.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Why because in order to be sworrying as.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: Prime minister, it will have to rely heavily on the
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: non Zionist and anti Zionist Arab parties in Israel, and
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: I don't think it's quite efficient in the long run.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: So mister Liberman declared today, at least I saw in
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: the Times the visual he will not serve in a
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: minority government. Does that mean a government that aigen Kott
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: would put together with the Arab parties and the anti
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Zionist parties? He broughing out any coalition with the Arab
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: parties and the Anti Zionist party.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, if we are to take Liberman's election pledges in
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: its face value, so it necessarily means that Eisenhott's chances
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: to form a coalition are closed to zero. However, Liberan
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 6: has a record of breaking his election pledges, including the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: very election pledge to actually not.
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  Speaker 2: Sit with the our parties.
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  Speaker 6: It happened in twenty twenty one, and Liberman became the
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: Treasury minister back then. So I would take with a
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: grain of salt any election pledge, and especially Liberman's. On
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 6: the other hand, in Israel. One must remember that you
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: do not have to be the most popular party in
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: order to become the next prime minister, because the game
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: in Israel is not in the public but in the Knesset.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 6: As long as you have sixty one votes of Knessal members,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: you become the prime minie. Still, so if Bennett became
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: a prime minister with nearly five percent of the popular
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: vote in twenty twenty one, it necessarily means that Libean
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: can become the next prime Ministeal with seven to eight
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: percent of the popular vote. So had I bet on
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: pony market, I would have invested in Liberman way more
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: than the prospects he is currently holding there now.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, since I'm not only on Salem Today on
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: the Salem Media Radio Network the Salem News Channel, I'm
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: also on six SPAN Today a little experiment we're running
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: during the summer for a week of broadcasting.
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  Speaker 2: So you're talking to a really so you're going to
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: be famous few.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'd love you to explain what happens when
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: no one gets sixty one. Because we were there for
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: three or four years. It's sort of like musical chairs,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: except that, yeah, who doesn't get up? Well, how do
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  Speaker 1: you explain it the vision.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the thing.
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  Speaker 6: Israel October seventh was and a tectonic with an earthquake. Now,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: earthquake usually happens when two tectonic plates collide. Now what
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 6: are the tectonic plates colliding in Israel as we speak?
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 6: One tectonic plate is many many Israelis moving rapidly to
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: the right wing because they cease to believe in two
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 6: state solutions after they saw what the Palestinian state.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Of Gaza did to them on October seventh.
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  Speaker 6: And on the other hand, there is a huge movement
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 6: or a huge shift of voters from the right wings leadership.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: That failed on October seventh.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: So while people adopt are adapted more and more the
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 6: right wing opinions, they are disillusioned and disappointed by the
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: right wing's leadership, which means that there are many people
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: who are up in the air, undecided swing voters who
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: haven't made their mind yet.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: And that's the outcome.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 6: The outcome is that you do not have enough votes
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 6: for Nathaniao's block because he failed on October seventh. And
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 6: on the other hand, his opponents do not enjoy a
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 6: majority because people do not like their opinions because they
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: belong to the center left. So that's the reason why
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 6: no one gets sixty one. As far as I know,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 6: what happens if they are earning sixty one seats. One
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 6: option is to go to yet another round of election cycle.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 6: It happened in Israel, as you have just mentioned, five
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 6: times in three and a half years, and it's a
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: nightmare for the country and for the electoral system. The
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 6: other option is to have a government a minority, governments
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 6: worn in so the agressive members, for instance, will be abstained,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: thus allowing Eisenkode to become the next prime minister.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: But it's way too early to call.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: So I mean, in the next segment, I'm going to
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: ask you of the Israeli version of the meat the
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: press host, what you're going to be asking the leading
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: party candidates in the last few weeks of the election,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: the pointed questions that they expect from you from that.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: But right now, I just want you to opine's decide
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: the selection and do we even know yet because there
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: might be another flow up with the Iran war.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely, so first and foremost this it's you know, to
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: quote the ninety ninety two slogan with an Israeli a twist.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: It's the security, stupid.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 6: The main thing for Israelis is the security and their existence.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: So if the Iran war is going to erupt again,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 6: it's going to dramatically affect the election. The second thing
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 6: is that people do not like Nataniel's alliance was the
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 6: ultra authodox community in Israel that do not serve in
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: the army and enjoys enjoy heavy subsidies, heavy government subsidies.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 6: On the other hand, people do not want to base
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 6: the coalition on anti Zionist Arab parties. So I would
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 6: say three things, One Iran and the second and third
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 6: is who do you like the list, the Arabs or
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: the ultra Orthodox. This is the question which is going
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 6: to actually decide the election.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Is ten seven the failure to have a commission a
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: major issue in your mind, in many voters' minds.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, while it's crucial for Israelis to understand what
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 6: really happened and who is to be blamed for the huge,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 6: devastating failure, I'm not sure this is going to be
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 6: the question according to which the election to be decided.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: And I'll explain something really crucial about Israel. In the
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: United States, people vote with you know, they have two ballots,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: maybe even three for president, for Senate, for Congress.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: In Israel you have one.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 16: And since Israelis have only one ballots to cast, it
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 16: necessarily means that they are going to have only one consideration,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 16: one issue to actually consider while voting.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: And this issue is the security any.
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  Speaker 6: Other consideration topic, et cetera, economy, pollution is going to
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: be inferior.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: I'm covered right back with a Meet Sagall to ask
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: him what is Tim Russer at social security? Question is?
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: For years, when Tim Russert hosted Meet the Press, he
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: went after every presidential candidate by beginning, what about social Security?
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: And he would drill down on that. We're going to
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: find out what a Meet Sagall's got lined up for
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: the Israeli candidates coming up. Stay tuned, Welcome back to America.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: I'm Hugh hewittt a meet Segaal is with me. He's
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: the Channel twelve political correspondent, the host of Israel's Meet
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: the Press. A meet in America. We've grown used to
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Sunday hosts kind of gigging Republicans and throwing softballs to Democrats.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: Tim Russer used to throw hard balls at the head
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: of everyone, no matter what their party. What will you
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: be asking people who would be prime minister in the
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: next two months?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's not going to identical question.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: I would have asked the Prime Minister Nathaniel if when
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: sleeping at night he dreams about the Medaled babies from
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: the Kibutzim near Gaza, because Lieutenant never really answered questions
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 6: about October seventh massacre and his responsibility. And I would
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 6: ask Gardy, Eisenkotte and Liberman and Bennett if they really
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 6: feel that their positions regarding the conflict in the Middle
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: East actually fits the situation of Israel, because I'm under
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 6: the impression that some of them do not really have
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: do not really reveal what they really think about the
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 6: pernicidian question, for instance.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: So I would drill down on this on these questions.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Would you be asking them about how long in Lebanon
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: and how long in Gaza?
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 6: No, because to be honest, I don't think. I mean,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: I think history will actually mock us for asking the
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 6: until one question, because wars actually are long and we
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 6: got used to, you know, in Israel the sixth Day.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: Were the young Kipuwo, which lasted eighteen days.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 6: But wars are basically processes, and I don't want to
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 6: be remembered in history as the you know, as the
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 6: British corresponding asking Churchill after D Day, how long is going?
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Is it going to take a guitar is defeated, So.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: You're right, okay, Two more questions. One, when you sit
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: down with the candidate, are you going to ask them
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: about the reserves? Because I sometimes think the Howard Dean
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: question is really the reservests are spent and is there
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: any other way to do this? Because I spent five hundred,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: three hundred, five hundred days on duty? How do you
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: find that question?
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  Speaker 6: I think that the question in Israel is not about
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  Speaker 6: recruiting to the army, because I can talk someone who
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  Speaker 6: doesn't believe in Zionism and the state of Israel to
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  Speaker 6: actually serve in the army. It's like trying to recruit
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  Speaker 6: a you know, Scandinavian to the is Ready army. What
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  Speaker 6: I would do is to cut the subsidies to the
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  Speaker 6: autrotodox community, because here's the thing. The Altrododos community as
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  Speaker 6: a general rule, does not go to the army, therefore
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  Speaker 6: does not go to the market, to the label market,
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  Speaker 6: and hence is heavily subsidized by the governments.
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  Speaker 2: So the tax payers actually pay twice.
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  Speaker 6: They go to the army and they pay taxes, and
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  Speaker 6: those taxes are funding those who do not go to
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  Speaker 6: the army.
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  Speaker 2: So all I would do is to cut the subsidies.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you an example.
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  Speaker 6: I live in Jerusalem and I pay I think the
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  Speaker 6: highest amount of municipal taxes in Israel.
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  Speaker 2: Why because we have a very large proportion of an
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  Speaker 2: ultrotrodot community.
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  Speaker 6: That's why I think that if I want to subsidize someone,
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  Speaker 6: I prefer to subsidize my cousin who goes to the
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  Speaker 6: army and who serve who is sell so far four
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  Speaker 6: hundred days in reserves in levels of Syria and Gaza.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, I think it's about the money.
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  Speaker 6: In this in this case, and once you change the incentives,
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  Speaker 6: you'll see a change in the army too in a
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  Speaker 6: few years.
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  Speaker 1: A very last question, and maybe we got two minutes
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  Speaker 1: when Israeli go up and they pull that labor today,
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  Speaker 1: actually think about the Prime minister communicating with the world. Now,
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  Speaker 1: you know, how is a star like half of America
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  Speaker 1: hates him? Half of America loves him. But around the
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  Speaker 1: world at least you understand him. Do you have to
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  Speaker 1: be good at that in your view as part of
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  Speaker 1: the job.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: I'll give you an example, okay, In Israel, I know
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  Speaker 6: it sounds ridiculous, the level of.
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  Speaker 2: English, of English speaking is crucial for voters.
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  Speaker 6: I can tell you about many, many candidates who actually
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  Speaker 6: collapsed and crushed in the polls after you know, having
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  Speaker 6: their very lame English public appearances Airdom television. So this
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  Speaker 6: is very crucial for Israelis. And then always, you know,
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  Speaker 6: masters English even better than his zerbrow. Second thing is
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  Speaker 6: he is mister diplomacy. But then again, this is the
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  Speaker 6: twelfth round of Nathania running for office since ninety ninety six.
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  Speaker 6: And that's why it's always in Israel referendum about Nathaniel
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  Speaker 6: he is. You know, the entire question is always supporting
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  Speaker 6: and I will oppose him. And if you oppose Nathanieo,
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  Speaker 6: and he's quite a controversial figure, of course, you don't
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  Speaker 6: really care about who you vote for. I once, five
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  Speaker 6: years ago I said that even a toaster would run
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  Speaker 6: for office, it would have gotten something like forty five
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  Speaker 6: to fifty percent of the Publio vote in Israel because
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  Speaker 6: it's not about the toaster or about the Eisenholt or
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  Speaker 6: about Liberman.
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  Speaker 2: It's always about Bibby.
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  Speaker 1: That's remarkable. I sort of a la Kwan. You accept
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  Speaker 1: much more democratic than Lakwan you for Singapore, A mate Segal.
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  Speaker 1: You should get his newsletter it's noon in Israel. I
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  Speaker 1: read it every day. You should read his book if
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: you want to understand this crazy Israeli system. A call
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  Speaker 1: at four am because a mets hobby is actually an
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  Speaker 1: electoral system. Second, I know, but I got a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of that too. I make goodness, say you, thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much. He's also on Dan Seniors Arc Media
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  Speaker 1: Catherine's here, Mary Katherine, I was just about to bore
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  Speaker 1: my audience with a revolutionary histories lesson on why the
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  Speaker 1: DSA is so scary. Well, the French Revolution is a
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  Speaker 1: scary thing. I don't think a lot of people know
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  Speaker 1: how scary they are, do you?
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  Speaker 11: Uh, it is very scary.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I agree that they don't want the Senate they
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  Speaker 1: don't want the Constitution. Let's go away from scary. Let's
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  Speaker 1: Getting Hammered. And I think today's episode is an absolutely
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  Speaker 1: wonderful episode. The drop about dropping your kids off at college,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I think we got to tell Vic's
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  Speaker 1: wife it's going to be okay. The empty nest is
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  Speaker 1: an illusion, number one. You agree with me on that,
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  Speaker 1: the emptiness's illusion.
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  Speaker 17: Well, I think you can see it in the people's
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  Speaker 17: lives around me, including Vic, that he still has an
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  Speaker 17: extremely close relationship with his dad and sees him frequently.
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  Speaker 17: So yeah, the family unit, although it will not be
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  Speaker 17: what it was, will continue for sure, and it will expand.
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  Speaker 1: I've just got rid. Didn't get rid. We just waved
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: a fond goodbye to the last six grandkids who came
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  Speaker 1: through on this wave of grandkids. I want you know,
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  Speaker 1: by the time you drop your third kid off at college,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they look back. I think they just
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: put my trunk on the sidewalk and wave goodbye and
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  Speaker 1: they were gone. I am a little bit different from
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: you on the dressing up of dorm rooms. One of
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  Speaker 1: my buddies from college, my college roommate, Mark Darren, president
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  Speaker 1: of Hobart William Smith College. Yeah, dorm rooms are a
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  Speaker 1: big deal. Now, that's how you get kids to come
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  Speaker 1: to your college. We got crappy stuff. Did you have
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  Speaker 1: good dorm rooms?
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  Speaker 11: Oh no, we did not at all.
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  Speaker 17: I actually went back to my dorm a couple of
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  Speaker 17: years ago and was dismayed at how nice it had
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  Speaker 17: become in my absence.
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  Speaker 11: We were just sender block walls.
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  Speaker 17: And you know, indif furniture and just you know, hang
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  Speaker 17: a couple posters and you were done that. That was
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  Speaker 17: how we did it. I don't know why the super
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  Speaker 17: fancy dorm rooms make me so cranky? Is it because
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  Speaker 17: I didn't have that.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not usually an envious person, but.
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  Speaker 11: I just feel like kits should slum it for.
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  Speaker 1: A little while. It's just social media. You didn't mention
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  Speaker 1: the worst part about moving, though, which is the refrigerator.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Getting a refrigerator from part A of campus de party.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have to go up steps like you did
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  Speaker 1: at University of Georgia. But did you ever have to
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  Speaker 1: move a refrigerator with your dad?
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  Speaker 17: We did have to move refrigerator and it was, like
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  Speaker 17: I said, it was up steep hills every single time
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  Speaker 17: because it's Athens, Georgia.
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  Speaker 1: So good luck. Now I want the audience and c
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: Span and note the only There are only two crossover
• 1:16:52
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• 1:16:55
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• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: The other is the Acquired Podcast, which, for some reason
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: my wonderful wife loves to listen to stories of businesses. You, however,
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  Speaker 1: hit the sweet spot. You're the morning show for any
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: time of the morning. How would you describe it to
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: the c SPAN audience? What is your objective with Getting Hammered?
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  Speaker 17: Our objective is to be two friends talking about the news.
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  Speaker 17: It is our job to be buried in it all
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  Speaker 17: the time.
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  Speaker 11: We hope it's not yours.
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  Speaker 17: And in the absence of it not being your job,
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  Speaker 17: we want to bring you some important news without bumming
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  Speaker 17: you out and without stressing you out for about an hour.
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  Speaker 11: That's the idea.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you stressed me out big time today. Betsy and
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  Speaker 1: I have walked on the McClain trail where the young
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  Speaker 1: mother was murdered. I don't know a half dozen times.
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  Speaker 1: It's not really a remote. It's kind of crazy what happened.
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  Speaker 1: I heard about it on getting hammered. Is Northern Virginia becoming,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Chicago.
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  Speaker 17: It's a problem. Steve Ascano, who is and this is
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  Speaker 17: not a red meat phrase, it's just real. Is a
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  Speaker 17: Soros funded prosecutor has these insane idea is about what
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  Speaker 17: to do with criminals in our area, including letting them
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  Speaker 17: free frequently. And I braced, as it is Spanburger, our
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  Speaker 17: governor's policy not to work with ice. I braced for
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  Speaker 17: the idea that whoever was murdered on this trail in
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  Speaker 17: this very nice part of town, a very popular area,
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  Speaker 17: at a trailhead for Great Falls, that it was going
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  Speaker 17: to be someone who had been let free, who was
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  Speaker 17: a violent offender in the past, or an illegal immigrant.
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  Speaker 17: And indeed it was an illegal immigrant at least the
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 17: suspect that they have in custody right now. And it's
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 17: because they are absolutely crazy policies in this area that
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  Speaker 17: allow people to reoffend and reoffend and reoffend. And now
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  Speaker 17: it's sort of broken containment from areas that the affluent
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  Speaker 17: people in the liberals in this area can They can't
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  Speaker 17: ignore it as much anymore if it's on the Great
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  Speaker 17: Falls trailhead, which is a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: He's a DSA adjacent prosecutor, so I want people to
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  Speaker 1: understand that's what the DSA stands for. Last thing, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know that you were not an organized person until
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  Speaker 1: this morning. I thought you'd have to be organized with
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  Speaker 1: your media schedule. Are you kidding, Hugh?
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  Speaker 17: That's how I got into this job is because I mean,
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  Speaker 17: can anyone do it who's not scatterbrained? And like, my
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  Speaker 17: superpower is that once I'm in front of a camera,
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  Speaker 17: everything makes sense to me.
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  Speaker 1: But before the superpower, the good superpower, the Getting Hammered podcast.
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