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Rams vs Seahawks DFS Showdown | Week 16 TNF | NFL Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go clear the lift thumb. What's up everyone,
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo back for another
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  Speaker 1: edition of the Thursday Night Football Showdown show here on
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna break down all things for the Thursday Night
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  Speaker 1: football rams at the Seahawks. Maybe a little Pookah versus JSN.
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  Speaker 1: This should be a fun one though. We're gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: about captain's roster, construction, ownership, Pookah sang, the refs are
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  Speaker 1: ringing the NFL, the weather is a big factor as well.
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  Speaker 1: And then of course we've got the ship It Games winners.
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  Speaker 1: This will be the final automatic entries to Round one
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  Speaker 1: of the first ever ship It Games Finals. We'll have
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  Speaker 1: those at the end of the show. And then if
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  Speaker 1: you guys haven't checked this out, go on x at
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  Speaker 1: ship at Nation, Day six of the twelve days of
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  Speaker 1: ship miss As that rolls on a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: Today's is the single emoji in the discord trying to
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  Speaker 1: tell me you can't put a rocket ship that could
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  Speaker 1: be any day, any holiday, any anything. That is my
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  Speaker 1: holiday emoji. So Hoosta, bring you in? Man, got titled
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  Speaker 1: with me as always with you? What's going on, hoop,
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  Speaker 1: I'll bring you in first.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it's great opening, but you forgot to mention something
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  Speaker 2: very important. Tonight starts the super Bowl for my season
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  Speaker 2: long league in which I have Pooka and JSN who
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  Speaker 2: have carried me all the way to the end. So
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  Speaker 2: made it to the super Bowl that starts tonight. So
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  Speaker 2: that is very important in Hoopster's household. The Pukah JSN
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  Speaker 2: combo pack tonight to kick off championship weekend, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: pumped for that. Can't wait.
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  Speaker 1: As well, Bro to season Bro, Like, this guy is
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  Speaker 1: into everything. You know. How's the bank account? You must
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  Speaker 1: have missus who must be spending a lot on Christmas?
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  Speaker 1: Who's going broke over here? We can't play anymore?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm trying to trying to refurbish some funds here,
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  Speaker 2: see if I can recoup some of these funds. But yeah, No,
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  Speaker 2: it's a good game, A very important game obviously for
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  Speaker 2: playoff seeding too. I mean, whoever wins this game is
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  Speaker 2: kind of in the driver's seat, I think for the
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  Speaker 2: one seed in the first round. By close spread, No
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  Speaker 2: DeVante Adams is pretty big. I think the spread kind
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  Speaker 2: of shifted in favor of the Rams to slightly in
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  Speaker 2: favor of the Seahawks now or favored by one one
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  Speaker 2: and a half depending on where you look. And a
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  Speaker 2: good game for DFUS, I'd say there is one. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how big the factor is. We can talk
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  Speaker 2: about it, but it sounds like the weather is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be a lot of wind. It's gonna be very very windy.
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  Speaker 2: But we can kind of discuss that too, because I
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  Speaker 2: think it is important, and you know, maybe when we
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  Speaker 2: get to the Kicker conversation it's even more important. But
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  Speaker 2: total really and we always talk about it on these
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  Speaker 2: on these shows on the Sunday Morning Show, like when
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  Speaker 2: we get these weather situations, like how much has the
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  Speaker 2: total shifted when we get the weather And I think
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  Speaker 2: when you guys mentioned before the show, it's only like
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  Speaker 2: one point, so it really hasn't factored in all that much.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll see a good good game, good start too.
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  Speaker 2: Week what is it sixteen? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Week sixteen. We've got Kevin's younger brother, Zach Roth
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  Speaker 1: or here right to bust down. The news Forore has
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  Speaker 1: titled What's happening, man, how you doing good?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what a Thursday Yeah, what a Thursday night
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  Speaker 3: game we have? Real life wise, I don't know. It
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  Speaker 3: could be like you said, looking at the total, looking
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  Speaker 3: at the weather forty two and a half, it could
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  Speaker 3: be pretty ugly, pretty defensive. But what I love for
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  Speaker 3: a showdown is both teams have two running backs that
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  Speaker 3: are very much in play, and just that alone makes
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  Speaker 3: like ownership spread out in just the fact that it
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  Speaker 3: could easily be solo shifted or a lot less dupes
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  Speaker 3: because it's hard.
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  Speaker 4: To pinpoint with running backs. It's gonna be not.
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  Speaker 3: Devonte Adams adds a little interesting wide receiver stuff for
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  Speaker 3: the Rams.
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  Speaker 4: Sad for my bast ball though.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah Week sixteen bast Balls there had a sick Devane team.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully can get it by. But good luck if you're
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  Speaker 3: still a live Good luck if you're still live in Survivor,
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  Speaker 3: and hey, if you're not alive and anything, you got
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  Speaker 3: DFS and a lot of money up top today.
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  Speaker 1: How live am I in the revival? If I tell
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  Speaker 1: you what I got title, I got Houston this week,
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  Speaker 1: then I got New England versus the Jets next week,
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  Speaker 1: and then I got Buffalo versus the Jets in the
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  Speaker 1: final weeks, but there's still ninety teams is the problem.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably gonna be chopped, but still probably by ninety
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  Speaker 1: teams because I gotta you'll take chops that left, but
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  Speaker 1: still like five it's five or six grand, we'll take it.
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  Speaker 1: I just thought if I could get like one upset,
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  Speaker 1: I thought we could get some last week, but we
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  Speaker 1: didn't get it. So you said one key important thing there.
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  Speaker 1: I know that there's gonna be a ton of talk
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  Speaker 1: about Pooka and JSN and people who want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about Pooka's brother in the news and all this stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but just in general, it is crazy Williams versus Corum
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  Speaker 1: and Walker the Third versus Charbonnay, Like there's a ton
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  Speaker 1: of angles. Then you got the tight ends. There's like
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  Speaker 1: they're running three tight end sets with the rams. I mean, hoop,
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  Speaker 1: I'll go to you and you can kick off sort
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  Speaker 1: of the grand scheme overview, but you talk all the time.
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  Speaker 1: We literally just had the conversation on the last slate
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  Speaker 1: of who's actually the wide receiver too? And when Devon
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  Speaker 1: ta Adams is out, I know there's two two at
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  Speaker 1: well coming back and he's even got a two in
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  Speaker 1: his name, a couple of them, but we don't know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because Parkinson, they were trying to hit Ferguson.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they had Davis Allen, he's a blocker, but
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  Speaker 1: he was still out there. They got a lot of
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  Speaker 1: stuff going on with their pass catchers. So give us
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  Speaker 1: the grand scheme overview. I know you hit on the
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  Speaker 1: weather a little bit earlier, but just how you sort
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  Speaker 1: of see this playing game out, like title said, huge
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  Speaker 1: implications from a real life football standpoint as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll talk about Obviously we get to the
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  Speaker 2: pass catchers. But the wide receiver too, for the RAMS
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  Speaker 2: is not a wide receiver, I can guarantee you that much.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know who it is, but it's definitely not
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  Speaker 2: an actual wide receiver. We can we will talk through
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  Speaker 2: it when we get there. But grand scheme overview, I
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  Speaker 2: think you know, people, probably in terms of fantasy wise,
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  Speaker 2: view these quarterbacks pretty similarly. In terms of what they
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  Speaker 2: expect tonight. Their projections are pretty close. Obviously, I think
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  Speaker 2: if this is on a neutral field without any weather,
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  Speaker 2: it would definitely favor Matthew Stafford. But it's in Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: It is you know, some weather potentially here, so kind
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  Speaker 2: of neutralizes those quarterbacks a little bit. Running Backs are
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  Speaker 2: very interesting where you have both teams have two guys
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  Speaker 2: that they're willing to use quite a bit and even
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  Speaker 2: come close to like splitting the carries. Like at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day. For me, like when I look
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  Speaker 2: at these running backs, I wouldn't be shocked at any
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  Speaker 2: four being the top scoring running back on this slate.
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  Speaker 2: There's not one of these guys where I'd be like, well,
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  Speaker 2: if he's the highest scored running back, I'd be surprised.
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  Speaker 2: Like I can't say that about any of these guys.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's wide open and kind of adding on
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  Speaker 2: to what title said, it makes it interesting for dfs
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  Speaker 2: because you have a lot of different ways to go
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  Speaker 2: and it's an important position the running backs. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: who's getting those one yard carries from the goal line?
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  Speaker 2: Like who's the guy that gets that? Very important uh
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  Speaker 2: to figure out tonight. But you have four options and
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  Speaker 2: that's interesting. No, Devanta Adams is the big talk with
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  Speaker 2: the wide receiver position. You know, much clearer on the
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  Speaker 2: seatle side, JSM Shaheed Cooper Cup and you really don't
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  Speaker 2: need to worry about anyone else. Arners the main guy,
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  Speaker 2: uh in terms of the tight end. So it's like
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  Speaker 2: those four and it's very clear. But the Rams stuff
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  Speaker 2: pretty wide open after Poka in terms of the wide receivers,
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  Speaker 2: like it's Pooka and then they're going to mix in,
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  Speaker 2: you know. I think at Well's good Boom Busts sort
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  Speaker 2: of play. Got this Momfield guy, Xavier Smith winning him.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're all going to get some reps. And
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  Speaker 2: we always kind of talk about with those guys, and
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  Speaker 2: we'll go deeper into it, but like Matthew Stafford, captain
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  Speaker 2: teams are probably a little more appealing with all these
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  Speaker 2: pass catchers, so we'll talk about that and then the
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  Speaker 2: tight end stuff. You know, Kobe Parkinson is in the
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  Speaker 2: conversation to be wide receiver too for the Rams, and
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  Speaker 2: Stafford likes him. He's used them a lot. But I
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  Speaker 2: watched that entire game. I watched that entire game Rams
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  Speaker 2: Lions obviously last week, and when DeVante Adams went out,
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  Speaker 2: the guy that was out there almost every snap was
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  Speaker 2: this Terrence Ferguson guy, and they're using him in very
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  Speaker 2: high leverage situations. I think Ferguson is and he does
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  Speaker 2: have a good projection. He's gonna have ownership. I think
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  Speaker 2: he is elite tonight. I think he is a very
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  Speaker 2: very good play at sixteen hundred, which we'll get into.
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  Speaker 2: Watch that game. He was in there, and he wasn't
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  Speaker 2: just in the game. He's in there in high leverage situations.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't show up much in the box score, game blog
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  Speaker 2: sort of thing, but man, I think he could have
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  Speaker 2: a big game tonight and then with the wind, you know,
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  Speaker 2: what you do at kickers important. So we'll talk through
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  Speaker 2: it all. But that's kind of the overview.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. And the Ferguson. I was only
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  Speaker 1: watching that game too. That was part of the Millie sweat,
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  Speaker 1: was with Pooka and having the guys on the Detroit
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  Speaker 1: side and the Ferguson could have a touchdown. He just
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  Speaker 1: didn't get there with it, and then you ended up
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  Speaker 1: seeing it go to somebody else. So it's like he
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  Speaker 1: actually could have done a lot more. I will say title.
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  Speaker 1: I think when we get there, we could see his
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  Speaker 1: ownership come up by the time lockheits too, just because
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  Speaker 1: he's actually cheaper than Davis Allen on this slate on DraftKings.
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  Speaker 1: They flip on FanDuel, but just noting it like right now.
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  Speaker 1: And Davis Allen as a bigger prop than I expected
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  Speaker 1: to see too, almost seventeen yards receiving and typically a blocker.
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  Speaker 1: But what's happened is with all these other randoms, with
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  Speaker 1: at Well just coming back last week and then Mumpfield
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  Speaker 1: and these other ones, it's like they kind of just
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  Speaker 1: went to a ton of personnel where they're getting multiple
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  Speaker 1: tight ends out there, and so that's the common theme
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  Speaker 1: at least, and obviously Parkinson has a big boy number
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  Speaker 1: as well, only fifty four hundred in the flex on
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  Speaker 1: DraftKings will give us your thoughts on the game, and
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  Speaker 1: then you can sort of take us right into your
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  Speaker 1: captain thoughts as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like you guys are saying, I mean the Rams
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  Speaker 3: have played thirteen personnel, three tight ends, more than like anything.
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  Speaker 3: Davis Allen played seventy five percent of snaps, Ferguson seventy eight,
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  Speaker 3: Parkinson eighty five. Like you're gonna see these guys on
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  Speaker 3: the field a ton together, which makes it a little tricky.
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  Speaker 4: The thing that's also interesting you mentioned at the end
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  Speaker 4: was two two at Well. That was his first game
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  Speaker 4: back after Week seven.
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  Speaker 3: I believe it was, so they're working them back in
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  Speaker 3: now no DeVante.
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  Speaker 4: That's kind of hard to project, like is it gonna
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  Speaker 4: be him? Is it gonna be Whittington, Is it gonna
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  Speaker 4: be Momfield. There's a lot of unknowns, but unknowns is
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  Speaker 4: good and showdown when we're talking that we know too
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  Speaker 4: to a speedster. Big play upside there, They're gonna play
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  Speaker 4: a lot of tight ends. Totally agree with you on
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  Speaker 4: the Ferguson ownership and stuff coming up coming up. I
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  Speaker 4: think we nailed it on the show with the Gainwell
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  Speaker 4: Warren game. What was fifty five percent? Eleven percent Captain?
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  Speaker 4: I mean with the reporting and stuff. Obviously he got there.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely expect Ferguson's ownership to come up. Also, last thing
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  Speaker 4: for the rushing attempts prop I don't like. Coop said
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  Speaker 4: he wouldn't be surprised if any of the four were
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  Speaker 4: the highest thirteen and a half Kyne again, rushing attempts.
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  Speaker 4: This is thirteen and a half Kyroen twelve and a half,
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  Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker nine and a half, Sharbonay nine and a
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  Speaker 4: half quorum. That is pretty wild to see that all
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  Speaker 4: of them are that close, and again it makes us late,
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  Speaker 4: really good sharpon N. I actually out snap Kenneth Walker
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  Speaker 4: last week, so it's very tricky heading into the captain thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: I'll also say last thing, No one's favorite to score
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  Speaker 4: a touchdown in this game again, forty two and a
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  Speaker 4: half total. The weather's a little concerned orange yellow.
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  Speaker 3: He could see a little lower scoring game, So like
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  Speaker 3: to go to my captain's Obviously, I'm playing JSN and Pooka.
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  Speaker 3: There's no ifans butts, they're by far the best. They
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  Speaker 3: will be the highest owned. Nothing bad to say about Pooka.
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  Speaker 3: They're both just the man. I would say Pooka if
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  Speaker 3: I had to pick.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: DeVante helps a little bit. Yeah, Pooka is the man.
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  Speaker 3: But after that, Kobe Parkinson I think is my next favorite.
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  Speaker 3: They're using him a ton. I think he is the
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  Speaker 3: number two pass catcher and his price tag fifty four
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  Speaker 3: hundred flex eighty one hundred Captain is just way too
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  Speaker 3: cheap at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 4: So I like Kobe Parkinson quite a bit.
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  Speaker 3: There After those three, though I am I'm struggling Donald.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess I'll probably play a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: I do like Darnald more than Stafford. I think today,
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  Speaker 3: for the sense of it, like I'm expecting if it's Stafford,
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  Speaker 3: it's going to be either Parkinson or Puoka mainly. Sure,
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  Speaker 3: he can throw one to Davis, Allen, one to this,
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  Speaker 3: one to that, but I think Donald's actually more likely
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  Speaker 3: to spread it out today. And then I think the
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  Speaker 3: other captain that I'm gonna play a little.
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  Speaker 4: Bit is Shaheed. They've been using them a lot more
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  Speaker 4: as of late.
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  Speaker 3: Big play upside, he's fast, the classic double dip. Someone
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  Speaker 3: asked about it last week on the main slate. You
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  Speaker 3: can do it on Showdown if you want Shaheed and
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  Speaker 3: Seahawks defense. But yeah, he's on the field a ton,
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  Speaker 3: he has big play upside. He's the number two weapon
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  Speaker 3: for Donald. Yeah, I wish I had stronger conviction though
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  Speaker 3: at captain's it's really Yeah, like the chalk in JSN
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  Speaker 3: and Pooka, I think Parkinson, Shaheed, maybe Donald.
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  Speaker 4: I'm struggling with these running backs.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously I'll mix them in a lot of teams, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's you can't be comfortable with any of them, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think when you put them up there.
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the the what the revenge game stuff people are
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  Speaker 1: talking about and things like that too. But I think
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  Speaker 1: the Shaheed call because we'll top a Cooper Cup, but
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  Speaker 1: the Rashid Shaheed stuff because you can play him up
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  Speaker 1: top and he actually has a real ceiling. He's not
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  Speaker 1: gonna show up as much on the paper, like if
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  Speaker 1: you see him, it's like a thirty six and a
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  Speaker 1: half prop for him, But it's it's more of what
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  Speaker 1: that big play upside would be for someone like him.
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  Speaker 1: And you mentioned him being out there a bunch. I
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  Speaker 1: definitely think that's something you see guys like Barner and
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  Speaker 1: Cup and those guys could just be a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more cap They get you like fifteen points. Is that enough?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, And that's what you got to think about.
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  Speaker 1: Of course they can help flip the build with the
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  Speaker 1: cheaper price tags, but hoop, I'll kick it over to you.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the stuff that was mentioned a couple other
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  Speaker 1: things is like two to out well as seen as
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  Speaker 1: the guy, but you know, Mumpfield has a way better
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  Speaker 1: touchdown prop. He's got better a higher yardage prop. It's
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  Speaker 1: like just random stuff like that. He's fourteen hundred dollars
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  Speaker 1: cheap and in the Captain he's three k. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying to captain, just noting when you see it. And
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: then of course with Korum versus Williams, to me, that
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  Speaker 1: just tells again it's not who you play, it's how
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  Speaker 1: you play them. But you can leave five grand on
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: this slate because you could build your best Williams lineup
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  Speaker 1: and just plug in Koram who can beat him, and
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you'd have money to upgrade else where.
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  Speaker 1: You can make your lineup better, but not always how
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  Speaker 1: it works the showdown sites. That's a huge edge if
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  Speaker 1: you can bind certain things like that. So I'll kick
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  Speaker 1: it to you who give us your thoughts at the
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  Speaker 1: captain as a whole.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I am gonna be definitely pretty condensed consolidated at
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  Speaker 2: the captain spot. And it's mostly the guys the title
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  Speaker 2: already talked about, like I have like five five guys
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  Speaker 2: tagged kind of right now, Puka, JSN, obviously Parkinson, and
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  Speaker 2: I did have Shahed in there as well. I think
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  Speaker 2: Shaheed is like my fifth and then Matthew staff For me,
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  Speaker 2: it's Stafford over Sam Donald. I mean, when Donald has
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: these big games, it's usually just through JSN and really
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  Speaker 2: nobody else the majority of them. I guess. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it could happen where he gets there without JSN getting there,
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  Speaker 2: but I think if he has a big game, it's
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  Speaker 2: likely it's JSN or Shaheed. I could see Stafford potentially
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  Speaker 2: spreading it out a little bit, like if they put
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: in the effort to kind of slow down Puka, which
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  Speaker 2: probably doesn't matter. He probably can't slow him down. He
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  Speaker 2: just has so many different guys you can throw the
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  Speaker 2: damn football to today. I could see him having three
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  Speaker 2: or four touchdowns and they all go to somebody different.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: So I do like Stafford for that reason. You can
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: get pretty unique with the Stafford captain teams too, a
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: lot of different things to do. You know, I'm not
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: really interested in those running backs up top. I like
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: them individually. I like them actually all a lot in
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: the flex, but in order, like to me, for one
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: of those guys to be the captain, I think they
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: probably need two touchdowns just because of the workloads. So
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: like any of those guys you're looking at at running back,
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: like if they're gonna get up top, I think they
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: need They needed to double dong on the slate, and
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: that's kind of hard to predict. So don't love them
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: up top. It's really the five. It's Puka, JSN, Stafford,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Parkinson and Shaheed, And I don't think I really want
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: to do anything else. I mean, maybe there's something you
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: can talk me into, but for me, really it's like
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: those five. And then you know, kind of looking to
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: get different within you know, lineup builds, I mean, and
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: some of the stuff you don't even really need to
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: get different with. I mean, Partson is going to be
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: very popular in the Flex, but not a lot of
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: people are going to play them up top. I mean
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: we're showing saber heads it at seven, like if you
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: play them at ten, your way over the field. And
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: then Shaheed is like, you know, two to three percent
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: up top sort of play. So you are getting a
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: little bit. I mean, the majority of this ownership for
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: sure at Captain is going to you guys, Puka and JSN.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: You're doing anything different than that, If you're doing anything
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: outside of that, you have a chance to kind of
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: be a little bit different tonight. So you really don't
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: need to worry about it too much. In my eyes,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: I think this, you know, Slate is definitely gonna be
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: one in the Flex and not not up top.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so one thing you said that that was key
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: for me is like the double dump perspective. I know
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: we usuld talk about that in the baseball streets, but
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: from the running backs here, that's what can really restrict
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: them from being up top, right, That's what we're talking
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: about right here as the captain and building down from there.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Playing any of them in your lineup as possible tonight,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: there's a ton of different ways. Every JSN is five
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: thousand more than Shaheed, is five thousand more than Blake Korum.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: So that's just a two v two flip in your
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: line in talking in the flex now up top, you
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: got to make that conversation be had. And I think
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: for me, I have a little if I was going
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: to any of those, and it's only because the classic
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: hoop line, if you've been playing them, just keep playing them.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I have more faith in Kenneth Walker of any of them.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: And it's not like high faith. I'm just saying, if
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of them, I do think that
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: would be the way that would take away from it.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: But it's Puka JSN, it's the tight ends Parkinson and Barner,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: it's Shaheed, and then for me it's more both quarterbacks,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: because we've actually seen Sam Darnold this season already be
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: the winning captain up top when the game that he
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: threw it to like Arroyo who's no longer there, and
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Tory Horten, who's not Like he can spread it around
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: for sure. The thing about that, though, is more of
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: how the game plays out. If it could be where
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: it's lower scoring. If I mean, even if JSN has
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: five or let's say a seven for one hundred and
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: ten and one, there's a way that Donald still beats
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: him up there because he gets that plus whatever else
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: he throws to the others. It's not as likely, but
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: that's shown in the ownership. That's that's where it's already
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: built into this. So I'm gonna spread it out a
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: little bit more. I'll probably be underweight on Puoka and
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: or JSN slightly, just if they're actually gonna be like
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: twenty five percent each. That's fifty percent of the lineups.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I want the situation Hoop just mentioned. I want the
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: ten percent Parkinson if he's five, I want the eight
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: percent Barner if he's four. Like I, I'd rather get
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: some of those and then I'll still have, you know,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: whatever it ends up eighteen to twenty percent of those
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: other guys and built differently, built accordingly, trying to win
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: all the money with those guys up top, but they
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: they're the best captains for a reason. Makes a ton
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: of sense title any thing else at the captains from
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: anything mentioned there, I think like both quarterbacks to Meek
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: is spread around the running backs. You know at Walker,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: just because I've been playing him, I prefer those guys
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: mixing them around in I love the Shaheed call you
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: ad Jas and Pooka, and then it's more Parkinson than Bartner,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: but maybe maybe a little Barner. That's kind of where
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I stand as of right now, at least.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if I'm getting outside of like the
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: main guys that I talked about, I'd probably just sprinkling
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: the running back and hoping Charbonnet falls in the box
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: twice or Kyron or Kenneth Walker again.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: When we play a lot of teams most.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: People probably play twenty teams or less, we try and
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: condense it, but I think after I get by with
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: the or after Parkinson Puka JSN that I don't even
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: know if I prefer running backs or quarterbacks. Probably quarterbacks,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: but I mean I'm thinking this is gonna be a
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: low scoring division battle. I mean, it's a big time
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: game for both in bad weather at the twelfth Man, Like,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a little lower scoring. No
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: DeVante Adams also a thing to note now that I'm
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: thinking about it and talking out loud, Maybe I like
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Kyron the most up top for the sense of you
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: don't have that DeVante Adams one yard five yard line
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: touchdown or he can just get robbed on the touchdown
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: with how much they've been going to DeVante, So maybe
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I mean that price is big for Kyron too, which
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: is going to keep the ownership down. But I'm yeah,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm struggling that Captain is one of the games
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: I feel least good about. Like I like PUK, I
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: like JSN, but I have the same thoughts as the field.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: So but I think we get different in the Flex
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: because of how many different options there are where you
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: can still eat chocolate Captain if you want to do so, that's.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: What you're gonna have to do tonight. Like again, people,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: if you're building one lineup, I know everyone's going to
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: just be picking between Pooka and Jass and nobody has
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: the answer for you. They can tell you what they prefer,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: what they think, but nobody knows until it actually plays out.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I don't hate that thought on Williams up top. I
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: guess like I didn't consider obviously could be.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: That's a good point too. I was going to say that,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I do think that is a pretty important point. I mean,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: you look at kyn Williams and the expectations coming into
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: the season, and a lot of it has been held
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: in check because of all these one and two yard
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: passes DeVante Adams. Nobody that's filling in for DeVante Adams
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: tonight can replace that sort of role at the goal line.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: So that is that those plays are not going to
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: be in the playbook tonight. Like there's no doubt about that.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: So I do think that is a good point in
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Kiren and something we should consider.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Also, another piece I would just add on to that
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: is Adam's not on the slate. If Adams was on
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the slate, he would basically be the same prices as
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: what Williams is at. So it's like you play your
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: substituting what he would take from him for workload, and
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: if it feels like an overpay, just say that it's
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: already baked into it because you would have played Adams.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Tons of people would have been trying to leverage Pooka
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: and playing the goal line two touchdown guy potential with
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Adams for those exact same prices, with the rest of
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the board being the exact same way. Well, if he's
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: out and one Williams can already be that guy. Anyway,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: it does make a ton of sense that you just
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: sub him in because he's actually not playing, as people know.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I like that call quite a bit. I
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: just don't care about any of this stuff ever, Like
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: it's legit one game tonight. All these places trying to
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: tell you that they tell you snow Game's gonna have
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: no points, then it's like the Snowmageddon with seventy five points.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: They tell you all these different things. It's fifty to fifty.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: No one knows. I'm just gonna play. And if it
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: deters you from other stuff, I guarantee you you've You've
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: been talked off stuff way more than you've been talked
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: into stuff. And I know that because I've been playing
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: dfs for ten plus years now. I'm sure hooping title
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: are much of the same. It's like, oh, Hawkinson's gonna
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: only play the high value snaps tonight. Well it turns
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: out there was ten high value snaps in the first
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: half alone, and he's got ten catches at the half
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and you're like, whoa, well I missed that one. So
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I just I can't I think.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, it goes back to kind of we kind
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: of touched on a little bit, but they're like, this
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: isn't like twenty years ago. These teams are doing things
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: to negate the impact of these weather situations, heated fields,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: you know, shoveling the fields in between, down building these
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: stadiums to make the wind less impactful. Like all this
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: stuff has been going on for the last like, you know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: twenty years. I'd say, I don't know, I'm just going
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: a random number out there. But like years ago, there
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: is no stopping these sort of weather situations. You were
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: just getting the full bront of it, and there's no
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: stopping like a lot of teams playing domes now so
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: they don't have to deal with the weather stuff and
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: there's just a lot of different things. And it was
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: like what three weeks ago where there are those five
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: games that were going to be like really bad weather situations.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: And you know, we use the same weather report every week.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: We're not shy about who we use and and you
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: know we always cite it. But that that breakdown had
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: those five games is really bad weather, yellow, orange, orange, yellow, whatever.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: You want to say.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: And I think they averaged what was it, like fifty
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: five points a game? Yeah, lots of the game. Yeah,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: one of the game touch one of the games touched seventy.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I think total points scored. It was the Cleveland Toennessee
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: week where you know that was like a thirty three total.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: They scored a shit ton. So I think we definitely
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: need to be careful, like if we're talking kickers, like
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: maybe it's a little bit of a different conversation like
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: kickers in DFS tight when we get there, maybe it's
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a different conversation. But I don't know, man,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Like I'm a little wary. I'm making big wholesale changes,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: you know, based on this weather stuff.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, too, shut out the needs here said, you know,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: we'll get them on Sunday with the ticker, but this
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: one's the second half looks good, and he was, actually,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: we'll get them later. We got cheap of games winners
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: coming up the second half looks good anyway, how many
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: times we see these guys smashing look set can get
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: there every game in one quarter. The fourth can catch
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: up mode. So it's like, if you gotta give these
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: guys four quarters, there's adjustments that are made. There's all
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: these different factors. I already know what's gonna happen. The
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: first half is gonna be slow, the disc I guess
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: the weather did matter, Like coming back to try and dunk.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: We've seen this happen, so oh, I guess justin Herbert
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: was a horrible call. And then he breaks the slate
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: on a Sunday one week this year, earlier in the
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: week in the year. It's like you got to just
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: give them time sometimes. But it's in general, we can
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: only build with the information we have. If you think
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: the weather affects the quarterbacks, probably shouldn't put quarterbacks in
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: your life much.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: And the other thing, it's like a different style in
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: the NFL too. I mean think back to like I
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: don't know, Brandy Moss days, Like you're throwing Brandy Moss
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: like thirty forty yard bombs down the field like these
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: top high volume players. It's not really that anymore? Like
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: is a eight yard slant to Puka? Is the wind
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: gonna affect that? Like if they miss at tackling he
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: goes for fifty yards, Like is that it can the
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: wind affect that sort of play? Like, No, I don't
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: think so. I think you factor everything in together and
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: negated more than it was in the past. But like
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: you said, you know this is a three nothing at
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: at halftime in one, like you know, twenty six yard
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: field goal and that's it. Like people are right coming.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Oh you guys said that they're going to score. Spink
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Like McVeigh. McVeigh gets to the stadium title and he's like,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: you know what, guys, we should definitely throw Pook at
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: the ball today. We know he's good, but man, that
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: wind out there. Think hey, Matt, Matt, come over here,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the Stafford quarterback. Yeah, let's not throw Pook at the
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: ball today. It's a little too windy out there. Let's
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: just run that thing. Man, forget the game plan. We'll
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: just go to this instead. So I'll kick it to
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: you and take us into the next positions. Any other
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: thoughts you have, But I mean, for me, building, I'm
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: playing the field and what they're doing and playing against it.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to continue to do for the
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: least amount of dupes to win the most amount of money.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: That's the game. That's what's different about our shows versus
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: others trying to take all these hot takes and stands
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: and all that shit. No one knows it. We just
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: know how to play the game, and that's what you
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: gotta play. Play the game.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean I was literally just gonna there's
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: so much randomness in one game, and someone can be like,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: all right, then why are you doing a show up it? Well,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, everyone has the same
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: deck of cards, everyone's playing the same You see what
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: the field's doing. You try and leverage off of it
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: and their mistakes, and yeah, that's the game we're playing.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: So some of my portfolio will have the passing attacks,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: some will have the running. But in your lineups, little
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: tweaks here and there, a pivot a one v one
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: at two v two, one hundred and fifty dukes down
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: a seven. When you win, how much do you win?
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: The little stuff like that. I think we do a
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: good job. You always talk about salary two v two
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Switcheroos all that. So yeah, I mean we don't do
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be someone throwing for three hundred
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: yards today. No, the props are saying no as well,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: but if they do, guess what, you have a four
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: percent owned quarterback at captain. You get different that way
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: and it leverages stuff.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: So hey, just two seconds, great point you just made.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Because that's the other factor, just like yo, we always
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: talk about with like the game total is not always
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: matt Like a team could put up seventeen points, but
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: if one guy gets two touchdowns, that's still valuable in
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: a seventeen point team total that they finished with. To
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: your point, Stafford could throw for one to seventy today,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: which is way under, but he could have three touchdowns
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: because whatever the wind made for some pass interference got
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: into the goal line and then he throws to Alan
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Parkinson and Ferguson Ferguson and the actual lineup you need
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: is Stafford Puka, the three tight ends or whatever it
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: lands on the other side. Like just making it up.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying like that's the other thing people aren't
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: factoring in enough, is like the wind could blow the
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: ball down and it doesn't mean he gets the three
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: hundred dard bonus. It could get passer interference or things
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: that set him up to throw these short touchdowns. So
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: it's again, that's the game, the fantasy sports side of
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: it versus and the point side of it versus the
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: actual numbers in the yardage and all this stuff exact
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: like that's how it'll play out in the end.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: So go ahead and give me a quick cliff notes
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: of what Puka said, just because I guess he issued
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: an apology.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Well it wasn't what he said. He went on a
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: stream with Aiden Ross and I think his name is
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Neon or something with the three in it. But anyway,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: he went on and they were telling him to do
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: a touchdown celebration, which was actually like anti semanic, like
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: it's you can't be doing that basically, And he apologized
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: to the entire Jewish community because of it, but he
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: was saying, I'm gonna do it. He was practicing it
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: on stream and then people called his ass out and
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: he realized that he was getting set up. So, I mean,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: these guys are rich and athletes and can do whatever
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: they want, but like going out and being on these
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: streams and shit when you're playing this week for number
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: one seed, Like, I don't. I don't think the best
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: of the best are doing that. He is one of
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the best receivers, but you can't be doing that.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Just yeah, okay, I didn't. I didn't. No, I see it. Okay,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: very good, thank you.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah for the for the running back room.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: The thing that sends up most is so Kyron like
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: nine point a k Donald nine four fourner cheaper Stafford
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: six hundred more than JSN Pooka. But Kyroen's projection is
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: by far the worst out of them, like almost three
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: points worse than the next lowest and like the Stafford
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Donald stuff, so he has to be squeezed up top
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: and or like in the flex and up top pretty much.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: And when you play him, you can leverage Chalk Puoka,
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: you can leverage some Stafford that's gonna get ownership.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: So I think I'm gonna embrace that.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't be shocked we have twenty six percent Kyron,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: forty eight or eighteen percent quorum.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if it was.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Like twenty to a piece or twenty three apiece just
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: because the owners or the price ninety eight hundred versus
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: forty eight hundred, and people have been seeing what Korum's doing,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: So I think Kiren is a good way to get
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: different up top or in the flex or up top,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: and then Kenneth Walker and Sharboney. Kenneth Walker, I know
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: he's burned a lot of people, there's no doubt about that,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: but it's only a one k difference from them, and
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: at least our projection we're showing like a three point
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: five projection difference on with Walker ahead.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: So maybe charbon Ay.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Comes in a little lower owned that way as well,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: and I think I'm just gonna embrace that. If I
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: think Hirn's moon walks back a little bit and it's
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: pretty close with him in Korum, and I think Charbone
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: is a decent bit lower on than Kenneth, I'll just
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: say right now, I.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Prefer Kyroen and Charboney. And again it's really I don't
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: have a strong lean.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: The rushing attempts are similar, the rushing props are pretty similar.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the coaches are doing. But if
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: I think right now that the projected ownership across the
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: industry is a little off, I'm gonna embrace that and
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: just go the other way. But i'd be if it's
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: this guy's the day to day.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: I have no clue.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: What I will say is I do like all four
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: of them a good bit in the flex though, and
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I definitely do prefer them in the flex. Then Captain,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I can play two of them. I'll let you guys discuss, like,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: are you willing to play three of these guys?
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Hoop, I'll let you take that thought over to you.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Are you willing to play three of these guys together?
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: And then any thoughts just around how you might be
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: utilizing them, Like I like the thought that title had earlier.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I know it's for captain, but even in the flex, like, okay,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: if I'm going with Williams, it's probably because he's taking
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the lunch of somebody else, or maybe it's Walker or
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Charbonay Moore in like a blowout type lineup. Is there
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: any thoughts you have on using three or more together
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and how you're handling it, and then anything else with
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: these running backs?
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think I would be fine with three, just because,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: like you, you look at it and they're all pray.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, outside of Kyrium Williams, he's probably got to
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: do more than one touchdown, but the other three guys,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: it's like one touchdown probably is enough for them to
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: be on the optimalst So I do think it is
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: a little trickier if it includes Kyron, just because he's
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: gonna have to outscore the quarterbacks. He's gonna have to
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: outscore you know, everyone else probably in that top they're
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: not outscore, but be in the range of those guys.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: So I wouldn't rule it out. But the one thing
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: that definitely stands out to me now, and that's why
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I love doing these shows, is now I got that,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: like DeVante Adams, things stuck in my head him at
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: the one into two yard line getting those plays, and
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I definitely I'm gonna boost up Kyun Williams and Blake Korum.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I already like Korum quite a bit just because he
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: has a legit. I mean, you're talking about a guy
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: that can get you know, ten to fifteen touches and
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: he gets entire drives. So I already like Korum. I
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: was not as high on Williams because of the price tag,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: but definitely think there's something there. I mean, there are
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: certain plays that they are no longer gonna call at
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: the one two three yard line without DeVante Adams, and
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: that probably leads them to run it a little more
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: at the goal line. So you know, if I'm gonna
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: rank these again, like I said though at the beginning,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked if any of these guys were
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: on optimal at the end of the slate, Like there's
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: there's not one of them. If I'm gonna rank them,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be Korum, then kyra In, then kind of
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker, then Charbonay, and I guess the Kenneth Walker
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: thing is yeah, it's like I've just kind of always
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: played him over Sharbonay, so I'm gonna continue to do
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: so tonight. But I think the main point here is
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: my initial point where wouldn't be surprised if any of
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: these guys got the job done tonight. And it's usually
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: it goes opposite of what I usually do with these
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: teams with multiple running backs. Don't really like the backup
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: running backs. But these guys have legitimate roles, all four
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: of them, So I'm in And the range outcomes here,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: though I think is very very wide amongst these four guys.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I definitely would not be ruling out playing three of
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: them together. So if you're doing that, I think it's
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: a huge mistake. Whether it happens or not, I don't know.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: The reason I think it's a huge mistake is because
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: they whoever I mean, especially because in that case, it's
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: more than likely one of them is that captain. So
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: let me give you just a quick example. You put
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: our Williams, who we just talked about and title brought
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: up as all those points we put together. You put
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: him at captain. That hurts Puka, that hurts Stafford. It's
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: what if he's the touchdown and then Korum gets one
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: later on well the other If Stafford's already hurt and
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Puka's already hurt, it's not likely that Koram beats them out.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: But it's very possible that now Korum is beating out
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: a Parkinson or somebody else down low, And then what
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: if Walker or Charbonay is one of the guys from
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: the other side that's needed that's scoring the touchdown, even
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: in a five to one build, that could be the
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: case of somehow they failed. I also think it's really
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: interesting we're talking about running back as a whole, but
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: just to go back to the captain conversation is if
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: if Williams is actually breaking it like that had, it's
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: gotta hurt Pooka somehow, it doesn't know it's And so
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying to rule that out either. I'm just saying,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: if he's getting two touchdowns the double dong, it's hurting
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: the ceiling of Puka. Pooka can definitely still grab you
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: eight balls for one hundred and ten and be needed
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: in the flex. But looking at some of those builds
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: with like Williams up top, maybe subbing JSN in to
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: that build and say, if he's got to hurt Pooka
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: in this one, maybe I go to jazz N or
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: vice versa with Walker up top. If Walker's actually doing
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: something for once, that could be stealing away from JSN,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: and maybe they don't need to pass as much on
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: their running more so, maybe it is like a Kenneth
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Walker with Williams doing the only scoring for the Rams
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: on their side, and then Sharbona comes in late and
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: does his thing. So you can get to three running
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: backs pretty easily in that setup. So I definitely wouldn't
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: rule that out. Not too much else to add. That's
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: kind of how I'm thinking of playing them as well,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: just in even in the flex and stuff. It's kind
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: of like built into the lineup of what what would
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: make the most sense from a game script perspective. So
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: you know, like I said, Walker's crushing it, then maybe
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: that's hurting JSN some or likewise with Williams, but price
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: matters if going back to the captain conversation for two seconds,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: it's ten eight or ninety three hundred up top for
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Walker or sharbon A versus fourteen to seven for Williams,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: and then going up to the big boy price tags
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: of seventeen four and eighteen for those receivers we're about
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: to get to. So yeah, it's pretty tricky from that perspective,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: but I think there's definite reason to say there could
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: be three running backs in a lineup tonight. So title,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I'll go back to you. Anything else you want to
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: add there, man? If not, you could take us into
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: the battle of the number ones. Man, it seems personal
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: between these two JSN versus Puka. We got to see
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: how it goes, but both teams like it's clear far
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: and away, and then obviously Adam's getting out of the
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: way tonight to make it realistic that it actually is
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: just one v one Puka versus JSN.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Yeah, I mean ninety one and a half
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: receiving prop for Puka eighty nine and a half, JSN
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: the next highest Kobe Parkinson thirty nine and a half.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: It says it all ownership shows that, prices show it
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: what outstanding years for both. I to pick one, I mean,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely going Puka. The dude's a grown ass man.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: After the catch, he's phenomenal. But you can't go wrong
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: with either after that though. Yeah, we kind of mentioned
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: it at the top, like the guys down below, like
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: people rather go the tight ends Ferguson, maybe even Davis Allen.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Of course we talked about Parkinson. It's not quite as
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: bad as that Steelers Dolphins wide receiver game that we
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: just talked about, where, I mean we were right there
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: wasn't one wide receiver I believe that was found on
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: the optimal lineup after JSN and Puka. I mentioned Shiheed.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely playing Sheet. I know Drea disagree. She likes
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Scooper Cup more. He'd be the next favorite after that
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: if I had to go there. I mean, he just
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: looks so Dusty like he has no juice left in him.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I think he has to fall in the box to
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: get there. Shaheed can actually make plays. They do design
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: runs sometime for him, get the ball in space. And
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: then after that it's two two and Mumpfield and I
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: don't really know. I think maybe I prefer two to
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: a little more because he's fourteen hundred more. So I
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: do think that Momthfield might be a little higher own.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: But again, it was two two's first game back. He
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: only played a couple snaps. Since like week seven, who
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: knows what role it's going to be, And they have
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: used Whittington, they've used Xavier Smith. I don't know how
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: much I'm really going to get to them. Again, if
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: you're playing one hundred and fifty, you'd be a fool
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: probably to exit out. If you're only playing ten teams,
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: I doubt i'd really get any I want to you
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: guys take them on two to two monthfield Again. Last week,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: if you look at snap counts, it was clearly Mumfield ahead.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Two two only played four snaps, Whittington force snaps. But yeah,
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: that was and they run so many thirteen personnel. They'll
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: have Alan Parkinson on the field a ton with h ferguson, like,
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: and these guys won't even see the field much. But
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: when two two's on the field, and when Mumfield's on
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: the field, I think two two has a better chance
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: to actually do something because he can stretch the field more.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: So.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what's your guys take on the Mumpfield versus two two?
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: And are you guys playing any of these exaber smiths
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: and stuff?
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the big one for me and all
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: that hoop take it. But just is the point you made,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Like what everyone's seeing right now is props and the
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: snapcount from last week a month and they're saying, well,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: that's he's got to be the guy, but it's not
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: necessarily the case is we've talked about a ton of
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: versions of this of these slates on the show where
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: it's like there was reasoning to act. Well, there's potential
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: reasoning at least as to why he wasn't out there
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: as much last week. But again, it all just blends together.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: But even when people say, like the prop stuff, when
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: we look at it a ton probably more than most,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: And that's that's fine, But I'm just saying, like you
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: could take an under on mump and an over on
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: at Well if you think it's slipping around or in
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: DFS you could say I'm gonna pay the fourteen hundred dollars.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: And in this case it looks like at Well actually
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: might be lower owned than Mumpfield because of that price savings,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: and you don't have that conversation around because Mumpfield is
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: a similar price tag to Ferguson as well. So when
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: we get to the tight end in a minute, so
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: there's lots of thoughts to be had, but you can
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: play both together. There's tons of different ways to go
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: about it, but I think they need a lot to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: get there that way, so probably a Stafford captain, So
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I'll have both. I think it is
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: interesting on at Well because we've seen him be like
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: a potential big play, but it's not gonna be very often,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: so you need you need to have it sort of
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: hit perfect for you with a guy like him. But
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: no better spot for that than showdown versus a main
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: slate where it's like somebody still outdoes him easily. Here
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: it's not necessarily the case who put you out with
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: the wide receivers?
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Both before who what are the props you. I don't
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: see a two to two prop receiving ours on DK.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: I only see Mumpfield. What do you have on both
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: of them at your book?
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got at Well is twelve and a half receiving, okay,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: and MOMP is fourteen and a half just to the over,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: So it's going to be.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: Fourteen and a half DK.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I saw from Monthfield nothing onto too. The thing is
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: that also I DK might not want to put two
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: two up is a the unknowns with the snapcount and
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: be like one catch could be like thirty five yards, which, yeah,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: so there's more. I don't know if they really want
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: to put that out there and take the risk.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: That's probably what it is.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Yet it's all just it's all a guess and a gamble.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, like nobody knows for sure. Even if you
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: think you have the right rate on who's going to
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: be on the field more often than the other guy,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: they still need to get the ball thrown to him
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: as well. So it's like you're you're you're guessing on
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: who gets on the field and then you're guessing on
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: who gets potential targets as well. So it's like a
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: you know, a two two way parlay just for your
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: guy to get some attention on the field. It's it's
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: a guess, it's a gamble. These guys are obviously better
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: suited for you know, one fifty stuff, and I think
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: better suited for Stafford captain teams like Tampball kind of
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: touchdown and I touched on earlier as well. But it's
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: like you can put them all all into a hack.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Mumford at Well I think are maybe a little better
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: than Smith and Whittington, but they've used this Whittington guy
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: a lot in the past, So who the hell knows.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's a guest and they're all
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: better suited for one fifty for sure. I just don't
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: know how you would say it's this guy over that
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: guy and so on. The ones we do know though,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: are obviously on the Seattle side. JSN, Shaheed Cooper Cup.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: We already kind of talked about it. You know, there's
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: nothing to really be said about Pook and JSN. I mean,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: they've been the two best wide receivers in the league
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: this year, and that's why they're both on my season
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: long team. I saw it coming, you know, returned to
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Season long and straight to the top and this team
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: is strawn too. So I advanced last week, so I
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: don't want to keep bringing this up, but people might
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: appreciate it. I advanced last week, and I had Kyle
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Pitts on my bench. Kyle Pitts, I'm last week. That
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: goes to show you how strong the squat is. Brought
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Bowers is my primary tight end, had Pits on the bench.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: So what are you doing this week?
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I think I actually so I got the flex. I
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: think I'm gonna play Bowers and Pits. So here's all right,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: here's the season long question. Now you brought it up.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Title all right here for for the flex, I think
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I probably I have to play Bowers as the tight end.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: So for the flex, you're the options right, full point
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: or half point, full point, PPR full point, it's Pits,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: DeVonta Smith or Ted McMillan.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: I feel like it's gotta be Smith, Smith or Tet.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't know if I can go because
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Drake London is.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Drake Sidon's coming back. Yeah there, thank you. I appreciate that.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Tim calling in from the sidelines, like, got is.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: He coming back? If not bad?
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: If London's out, if London's out, I'm playing Pitts just
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: because all the all this stuff. But if he's in,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: I'm probably leaning gets probably Smith that's banged up to Yeah,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: people are saying Smith, I'll listen to the chat. I'll
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: definitely taken into consideration. Sorry, sorry for the sidetrack, but
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: I think I think people appreciate these conversations.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, they're really good decisions. You winning hundreds
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: of dollars on I.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Hope I don't know what the paud is. I hope
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: it's I hope it's at least four figures. It was
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: two hundred to get it in the league.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's four figures for sure.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we might we might get like a you know,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: twelve hundred or something.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Here eleven or twelve hundred. I was gonna say, yeah,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: there you go, all right now.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: But another thing. They pay out weekly highest score, and
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I think I've hit that like seven.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: These guys like guy Little next, and you should try
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: to win by leaving the flex really flex on them,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: legit flex leave.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: It worked last week. The final score last week was
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: one forty two to eighty six, so I won by
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: fifty I won by fifty six last week. So yeah,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: so yeah, Puka, Yeah, great play, JSN, great player. I
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: like Shahid fine with some Cooper Cup and then those
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: RAMS guys. It's just you know who the hell knows. Like,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: if someone tells you they know it's this guy, don't
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: believe them because nobody knows.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's what I would say, Like that's the
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: whole point. So these guys that we're talking with, these
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: guys Momfield, Xavier Smith winning, I mean, do you even
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: have a prop on Wittington or Xavier Smith over there title? No, no, right, So.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: They think they're behind books, think that he's there behind
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Momfield and too too right.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: So these guys are built to make your JSN and
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Pooka Lieum's more unique. And I mean, you're already in
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: trouble if you if you get those guys wrong. Not
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: likely that they're gonna be wrong. They're the most optimal
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: to be captain by a mile, and that's why their
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: ownership is almost fifty percent, if not more, on this
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: slate at captain. But I'm just saying that that's what
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: these guys are built for, depending on the risk you
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: want to assume. I've done a ton of research on
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: this and back testing and showing people. I mean, I
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: know you guys play the same type of way we're
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: usually up there. It's gonna be in a smaller chop.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: We're seeing it week after week and slay it after slate.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: It's like we're at least there's opportunities, but the setup
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: is around like the concept of just taking on the risk.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I'd rather not win when the top prize is thirteen grand.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: It's not because I don't want thirteen grand. It's if
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna build every slate to try and win fifty
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: k or more, then I'm gonna have to play in
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: a certain way. And that's just what these guys are
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: there for. They're there to be differentiators and separators in
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: your lineup to give you, what you know, much more
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: risk that you're taking on. But with great risk comes
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: great reward, and that just means if you do get
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: to the top because of that, that's what I'm taking on.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: So you won't really see me up top in a
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: chop very often. If it's gonna be like thirteen k
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: or eight k or something, you just don't have that team.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: But a lot of handbuilds and things will because people say, hey,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: this is the best team. I'm just gonna run it.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: So it's depending on what you're trying to do. But
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: that's really what these guys are used for. So not
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: a ton to add here, hoop, But I'll let you
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: go into tight end. You already talked about Parkinson. We
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: talked a little bit. You talked about Ferguson for sure,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: how much you like him, and then Barner on the
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: other side. Anybody else or anything else you want to
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: mention here at tight end.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: So I mean another group of you know, cheap potential plays.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: You know, we already talked about the main guys. I
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: think Parkinson is a phenomenal play. I'm going to play
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: him up top. I think Barner is really good play.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I guess you could maybe make the argument for him
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: up top if you're looking to extand expand your Captain poole.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I think I prefer to keep it a little tighter
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: up top. But I think Barner is a really good play.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Talked about Ferguson, and again you know he's going to
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: get some ownership, and like you guys said, maybe it
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: does get steamed up a little bit because he has
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: the good projection. But I think there's enough cheap guys
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: on the slate where it won't get to a point
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: where you have to be concerned. And like you said,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: watching that entire game, and I know Tamba you said
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: you watched it too, Like it looked like he was
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: the number one beneficiary of DeVante Adams get getting hurt
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: in that game, Like he was immediately out there. They
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: were targeting him in high leverage situations. I think he's
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: a phenomenal play on the slate and he's had good
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: connection with Stafford throughout the season. He's had some he's
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: had some i think, pretty big games. So I think
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Ferguson is a phenomenal play And you know, I'm not
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: worried if it ticks up a little bit in terms
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: of in terms of ownership, we're showing, oh where's that
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: at Ferguson. We're showing so we're only showing twelve. Sabersim
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: has it at eighteen. It is probably closer to the eighteen,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: I would say, and maybe it does come up a
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: little bit more, but I'm not worried. I think he's
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: a very very good play on the slate. And then
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Davis Allen is the other one that has a pretty
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: solid projection. But I don't, I don't know. I'm fine
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: with it, I don't. I don't love it. I just
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I just really really like Ferguson. Here we're showing Davis
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Allen at five percent, Saber has it at like eleven,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: so maybe it is closer to the you know, eight nine,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: ten eleven range on Alan and they'll be in the
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: pool for sure, and another guy like prefer him Stafford
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Captain sort of teams. But yeah, I think it's a
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: strong position, like you have Parkinson Barnard both under price,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: and then I think Ferguson is the best value on
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: the slate.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I want to ask title this for a second and
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: let him take tight end. But if you were he says,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: if Jordan Newan's our guy says it going all in
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: on one of these plays like Momp all these other dustballs,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: what's your max all these other idiots as who would say,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: what's your max exposure on them? Ten to fifteen percent?
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: What's the most you're looking to get if keying in
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: on one or two of them?
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Let's see.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you do like him ten percent, we
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: have projected Mumfield twenty five ish, I think two point
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: five x the field, that'd be good, say two to
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: seven percent nineteen eighteen. And again I'm so random when
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: it comes this. I use min max. I know we've
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: talked about a little bit. There's projection, there's that, it's
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: a lot of feel for me, there's no there's no
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: rhyme or reason something's ten percent. I don't want forty.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: I don't want thirty six unless I really like it.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: So I think if I get twenty five, that's good enough.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: But like Ferguson, who we talked about, we haven't projected
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: at twelve. If I think that's eighteen, then maybe I'm
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: fine getting like thirty seven. And that's a bit that's
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: a difference because I'm manually thinking that is ownership's higher.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: So it's really random when it comes to my thoughts there.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: But I always try and build a portfolio. We talk
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: about it all the time, and when what I think
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: a good portfolio is is most times I don't think
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: three x the field are three point five x the
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: field is really the optimal route unless I just really
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: really like the play, and I think it's a mistake,
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: which the more years DFS has gone on, the more
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: projections ownership all that the more efficient has got, so
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: then I don't try and make those stands as much.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: I just try and build good lineups with a portfolio
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: and do it that way.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just add on, I love that call out,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: But I think that's the most important part of what
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: you said is if you have a portfolio in playing
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: a large field GPP, it is like the stock market,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: like you're not betting a blue chain. You're not in
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: cash games where you would be all in and all
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: one fifty would have the same guy. So I would
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: not be all in on any of those guys. I
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: would be getting a percentage and treating it as a
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: portfolio of stocks where I'm covering some different stuff. It's
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: all in my portfolio that can equal to growth, but
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I'm taking on some risk in some of those spots.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: And if you're going all in, that's like a blue
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: chip a large field GPP tonight is not a blue
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: chip stock that you should betting it all in on
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: one guy. You have one hundred and fifty lineups for
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: a reason. If you're all in on the one guy
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: and he's not the guy but you were, you'll look
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: at yourself after be like, damn, I got all these
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: one v ones. If I had to just plug him,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: any of those became this guy, and you don't know
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: if they would have, but you you have no chance
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: that they would have if you're all in on one guy.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: So definitely do it what title said. You know, for me,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: I definitely look at the ownership and make my decision
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: based off of that. But if I have eight percent
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: of a ten percent guy and it's one that I
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: don't love as much, but it's because I'm getting eighteen
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: percent on a guy that it says ten that might
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: be fifteen, Like That's how I'm looking at it, And
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I want the spread of the opportunities or options because
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: that's how I'm looking at my full portfolio. And again
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: it gets shipped on like hoop and eye joke about
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: it all the time. Oh, you guys just play everybody
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: like we're honest about what we do when we try
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: and give you guys like three buddies hanging out on
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: the table talking through the slate for tonight of angles
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: of attack, ways to approach it and hopefully give you
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: some good ideas. It has worked out for many people
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: that are members at ship a nation and many that
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: are not, which is fine. We love that you come
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: in and watch the shows and go put together your
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: lineups based on our thoughts. But for me, I'm definitely
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: treating it like a portfolio title. So I love your
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: call out there and this is a few points to
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: add on, but you can carry on with tight End.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and at the end of the day, like I've
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: the best players in the world that I'm looking at
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: are playing all these people too, and a lot of teams.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: The smaller you play, you always say it, the more
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: you should tighten your player pool, but you're doing a
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: disservice to yourself taking on way too much risk, especially
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: in a showdown at like MMA, we talked when the
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: player pools condense second place. Sometimes it's pennies you can
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: lose money in a one to fifty max or if
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: the first way chop is really big. So tight Ends
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: I got really nothing more, Dad. I think it's a
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: strong position. Parkinson, Barner, Davis, Allen Ferguson. I like them
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: all at ownership, Parkinson, Alan Ferguson will be on the
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: field of Ton together. And yeah, it's been really good
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: for AJ Barner. You could argue AJ Barner is actually
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Darnold's second favorite target props are really close sh thirty
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: six and a half, Cooper Cup thirty two and a half,
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Barner thirty in a half, So he's right there with
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: the receivers. Yet his touch on prop is a good
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: bit better than the rest because he gets more looks
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: in the red zone. So yeah, I think I could
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: play three tight ends on my team and be good
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: with it. Running back tight ends I love in the flex.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: I don't like the receivers there as much.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: All right. I don't have too much else to add,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: to be honest with reading some of the comments in
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: the chat, but I think, like Coop said with the
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Ferguson stuff watching that game last week, I actually think
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: his ownership will be updated for us and many others
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: once we get close. I don't think he's gonna go crazy.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think the difference in the spread
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: right now is a lot, especially if people are gonna
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: want to get to Pooka and JSN, it's just gonna
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: lead to needing someone down there. And I don't know
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: if it's gonna be mump for everyone. So I kind
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: of think, like as we have it right now, I
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: think Mump is the guy at ten like we have him.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: I think we do see the steam come in a
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: little bit on Ferguson. Not sure how people handle Davis Allen.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: It is interesting. The only thing about him that's interesting
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: why I know he'll fall into the pool sum It's
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: just based on the projection and the set up there
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: is it's like you're paying up for probability, but you're not.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Are you really paying up from sixteen hundred to twenty
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: six hundred from your Ferguson love for Alan? Technically yes,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: but I mean in reality, it's not like it's gonna
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: hurt your lineup at all, especially when we've got these
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: backup running back situations for a thousand less on the Seahawks,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: five thousand less on the Rams, et cetera, et cetera.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: So it can still get you to the Pooka jass
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Ends and those guys in the world. So not too
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: much else for me there, Kickers and D's title. I'll
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: stay with you on this one. Then we'll kick it
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: over to Hoop to round it out. But any kickers
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: in Hoop, if you want to look ahead at the
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: FanDuel stuff, you can as well get titled to do this,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: and then we've got the ship of games announcements and
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: go for there but kickers in D's title.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we have like all four pretty much
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: the same ownership. And I'm really wondering if this was
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: finally the slate that the defenses get more. Not only
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: are they cheaper fifty twos five k mevs and then
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: the Rams four K Seahawks thirty six. You get a
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: price decrease, but the weather that people are talking about
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm curious.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if both defenses are higher than
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: the kickers. I really am not sure what to think
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: about it. I think I like all of them, Like
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: I know, I like the defenses. And if I think
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: the kickers can stay on check or moon walk back
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: a bit, it's a forty two and.
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: A half total.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: The two solid defenses. These teams can stall and these
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: guys get as long as it's not young way Ku
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: kicking the ball. These guys are professional kickers, Like I know,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: I mean nine weeks two or a couple of years
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: too late, but yeah, like he stubbed his toe on
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: a kick. I mean I'll never I'll never play that
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: guy again. But what do you guys think on the defenses?
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: Do you think both are higher than the kickers due
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: to their price decrease in the weather concerns or do
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: just think people love kickers and they keep going.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say quickly, the interesting part of it
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: all or the dynamic to me is that Myers and
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: MeVis are like Parkinson money right, or Cooper cup or
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: like just under Shaheed versus for the defenses. I know
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: it's four and thirty six. It's not like it's crazy,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: but I'm saying it's also you know, no one's like
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: really like oh too two at well over the defense,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: so it's like that may just stay in check. But
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: what I would wonder is do people play less kicker
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: than normal to your original point of like the possibility
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: because of the aj Barners and the Parkinson's of the
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: world that they can get to and feel a little
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: bit better about. I don't know who, what's your thoughts?
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, people will factor in the
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: weather stuff too with the Kickers, like I think people can.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: You just have no choice to play it, like you
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: have to play the offenses, right, you have to play
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: some pieces even if you think this weather is just
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: beyond terrible and it's going to impact the game, you
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: still have to play some offensive pieces, so you have
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: to get over it. The way people can really take
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: their stand on the weather situation is to get off
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: the kickers a little bit. And you know, honestly, there's
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: probably more in my eyes, more impactful to the kickers
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: than like the offense and moving the ball. So yeah,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: I think this probably holds up pretty true where it's
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: all you know, probably sixteen to like twenty two on
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: all these guys. They are both kickers and both defenses,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: and that's pretty It's lower than we've seen on kickers.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: But I do think the weather will bring it down
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the chat is talked about like the name value too.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: It's not an Aubrey, right, like when you get an
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Aubrey on the slated.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's mevisk guy's legit though, And that's the thing, Like,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: I'll definitely be over on the kickers, but I see
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: the argument for getting off, Like if you are afraid
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: of this weather like that is to me, the one
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: spot where it kind of fucked things the kick. But
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: what if the winds behind the kickers back and he's
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: got a you know, sixty yard or at half and
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: he makes it by fifteen yards. I mean just never never,
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: really know.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: That is a great point.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: I mean yeah, because it's the really strong wins if
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: you're if they're going the right way with the win, Yeah,
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: they're more likely.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: To throw out a fifty plus yarder.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: That's a good man. And these guys are already making
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: them with these So now we're.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: Obviously a big cat.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: He's got Alloyd Dude, that dude's a tank.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Days. Loves this guy, Man Myers, he said. Jetta Bowers
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: O Dunes. By the way, we got the news. Odonsay
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: and Luther Burden the third both out on Saturday. Already
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: got that news. We've got a Saturday slate this week.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: We will have you covered were that as well, a
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: little two gamer out there, big Packers slate, So we
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: you have that chat too.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that'll be a big time game.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. T Higgins, lad the Donkey and then many more
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: have less than the Myers fantasy points on the season.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Chat's being in there justin Jim Man and I can't
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: even Yeah, it's been off a quarterback I played but
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: you can't even blame last game. He's dropping wide open touchdowns, Like,
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: come on, he looked terrible.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: He's gonna crush it. Did you see his price this week?
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: He's he's the lowest he's been since twenty twenty on
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: drafteds Wow at six thousand dollars. Yeah, I Arthy like
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: you guys, there could be a spot this week. Man,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: get it. Get it rolling a little back and forth
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Minnesota Giants game.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he dropped a wide open touch on
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: McCarthy played well, Jets didn't last game?
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: What was it? What was your thoughts? Because you definitely
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: saw it in his face? Did he think that it
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: was a bad throw and then realized it was a
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: good one? Was like shit? Or did he's like did
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: he finally throw me a ball that was catchable?
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Holy shit?
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: Like I think it was.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: I think it's like that. There's no excuses. It could
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: have been any it was any worse job. You have
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: one almost surprised on the balls on him now and
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: you can't you can't play receiver like that.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: That's what it felt like to me. It was almost
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: like holy shit, this guy ken singing in there, and
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: it's like I just didn't do my job, and he
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: wanted to look like he wanted to say something, but
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: he knew he couldn't because of that, So pretty wild,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Kamet said, he will play so well. We'll have an
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: interesting Saturday slate with the Chicago injuries and stuff. But
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: for now, hoope, anything else you want to add? If not,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: let's look at some of the fandual differences, because there
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: definitely is some here tonight again.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just looking at the differences on FanDuel, like JSN
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: and puuk A substantially more expensive than the quarterbacks Donald
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: and Stafford, Caldarin Williams ten four, Kenneth Walker nine to six.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Like the nine to six for Walker, that's tough to absorb,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: like he's got he's got to do something pretty big.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: The Aj Barner at five p is very appealing on FanDuel.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Cooper Cup at fifty six hundred, I think is a
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: very appealing price tag. The one thing that stands out
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: there definitely have priced up these running backs like kind
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: of Kyra Williams ten to four, Walker nine to six,
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Blake Korum seven to two, charbon A eight to two.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Those are big price tags for those guys. Go down
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: to the value range are ferguson guys thirty six hundred,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: and then Davis Allen is substantially cheaper on FanDuel at
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: sixteen hundred, so he's like the cheapest of all the
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: cheap guys, and you know, like titles that he played
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: a lot last week. So yeah, it's kind of a
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: few thoughts there on FanDuel.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I gotta just bet this tonight title. I'm
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: just looking at the Williams play. He's more expensive even
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: on FanDuel too. It's like, like, I love it. So
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: this is the way my brain works. But you said earlier,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: it's like it's not often you get a slate with
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: this many options and things that we're talking about, and
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: nobody's a favorite to score a touchdown. It's just so wild,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: which means all the opportunity, all the double odds are
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: are even bigger. So it's like plus seven fifty on
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Williams to score two could would Adams. I don't know
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: what Adams would be. Maybe it would be that, but
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: it's that's my point of this week.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: I think it was like plus five hundred or something.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: He was minus one eighty five to score last week Adams,
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: which is crazy, right, environment of course all that, but.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Can he take the Adams stuff? Maybe they punish Pooka
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: a little bit too. They don't want to see what
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: that celebration looks like for the backup, Like.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: No, never give it to him down there anyway, Like
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: it's he's always between the twenties and it's rarely him
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: down there, which today could definitely change.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I think they found the football.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: I think the touchdown props and it being that why too,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Just it's a lower total, like I maybe they don't
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: move the ball as efficiently as the rams usually have
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: So yeah, a lot of stuff goes into.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: That plus seven to fifty plus four thousand for three Williams.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: But I mean, just get one put it like ladder
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: it up or something. I don't however, you want to
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: do as your money. I just saying, like I do
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: think it's at least somewhat interesting because the more we
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: talked about it, the more it made a little bit
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: of sense. And like now I'm even thinking about it
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: further from like the captain perspective, like thinking about what
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: those builds can look like and on paper, I don't
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: know how they build out beyond my first two to
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: three options that I'm thinking of, how it would look
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: like that if I was handbuilding one. But from just
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: the perspective of the Adams factor mentioned, there's a certain
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: there's certainly an opportunity for that. He could do nothing,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: he could be coarm it could be what all these
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: different things can happen. I'm just saying this, This thought
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: process is good. So love going through this stuff for
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: that reason. Anything else there, whop you wanted to run with?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: No good?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Your boy just got an update here, So this tells
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: you TET officially fully practices.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, now we got some options. We got a legit.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: We got a legit three three options here that we've
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: got to figure out's game log is it is that legit?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: No, there's no way.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know last week he had Yeah, he
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: wanted solely himself pretty much.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Holy wow, that is legit. Twenty four fourteen, nineteen thirteen, fifteen,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: fifteen wow. Nine before that, ten, ten, ten, five, fourteen,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: he hasn't had less than he had one five Fantasy
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: point game. Nothing less than eight eight side of that.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: That is crazy. Dang, all right, maybe we are on something.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, are we though, like, that's still pretty nuts, man,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: that is that's crazy. Those are big boy scores. Apologies
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: for not being up on the Kicker game logs like Wop,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: you should.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Have that's me, I dropped the ball that.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that changes I think for me.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: I'm just before during these shows, I always try to
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: check it out. I've never seen that sort of game
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: log from a kicker. That's a six game stretch, nothing
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: under thirteen. So that's like three to four field goals
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: per game.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: No one else.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: Why's these guys?
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Five and the eight were two of their three losses
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: on the season. It's like every other victory.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Now are onto something? Myers is the key to victory
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: for the Seahawks.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, right, even more Kicker points over here.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, cool. We got yeah, final final
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: announcements of the season when it comes to ship a game.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: So we will have this for you guys in just
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: a second. But this is the Golden Ship at number
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: forty eight winner the head to head against Hoop, and
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: I think Hoop, we can you know it's been a wrap,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: but what is It's thirteen and two?
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the over smash, so you can go go collect,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: go collect your your your your winnings at the cage
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Where's our man, go collect.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: Go collect. Yeah, a little shout out to go collect.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: Boom, go collect. You're thirteen and two, Yeah, on pace
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: for fourteen and two. So yeah, it's it's been a
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: rough season. Almost everyone loses to hoop and head to heads.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: I mean n Aid's week one, you know how the
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: season started. But now we're on sixteen and it's been
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun. We will say you definitely appreciate
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: everybody that came over and joined the games. We know
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of people came from other sites that they
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: were with before to come over and join our community
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: and check it out. I think they've enjoyed themselves. We
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: will have It's not games related necessarily, but we definitely
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: have some big PGA DFS news just around the corner
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: that we're gonna save. We're gonna savor the holidays, enjoy
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: it a little bit. But we got some fun stuff
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: upcoming for the PGA DFSC and anybody that's with us
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: should know we always take care of our own. So
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: if you're planning on being around, stick around and we'll
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: hit you up with the offers. And that heading into
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: the new year. But there's definitely gonna be some fun
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: stuff leading into the PGA DFS season. All right. The
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: winner of Golden Ship at number forty eight, and we
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: got full Discord governments today, No not real names on
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: the top, but we got the Discord government. So the
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: winner is Jeff D. And I know the Discord name.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know that there's probably a lot of Jeff
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: D's out there, but why guy to twenty three, So
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: awesome job. Congrats to you, Jeff D. Going up against
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Hoop for thirteen and two record, try and take it down,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: but we will. We will get a hold of you
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: via email after this and tag you in the discord.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: That's been the you know, the main thing. The last
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: couple weeks we haven't had people winning it with discords,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: but this week we got it. So why Guy two
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: twenty three, congrats to you. You are into the Shivic Games, which,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: for those that don't know, eighty five thousand dollars plus
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: plus cash and prizes, starts next week round one of
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: the finals. The fifty that get in the next win.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: I'm about to announce with the final Golden Shipper win
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: it from this week will make up the fifty. They
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: will play down next week. They already have some guaranteed
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: prizes that go with that, three hundred bucks cash on
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: top of the fact a one month ultimate membership which
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: is three hundred and twenty one dollars for shiping Nation
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: plus Sabersim. But uh, you know the main thing. Next week,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: the fifty will play down to top ten scores, and
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: then those ten will play two weeks later in week
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: one of the playoffs. Go ahead, you're smiling over there.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: What you got?
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying we can just go ahead and
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: put him on the shelf because Jeff is going to
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: the d.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: L Oh, okay, this guy got the one liners again.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: I think they might have got worse as the season
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: went on. Title get better, but they might have went downhill.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: Hey the efforts there wheels.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're spending a little bit. It wasn't too bad,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: was it? Put them on the Reford for sure?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: What do they say? Is that the.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: One the worst like I've had? I think I've had
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: worse throughout the season.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Chad and imediately jump.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: All right, baby, all right, yeah, yeah that's true. That's true.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Your kids shake their heads that you when you speak, don't.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: They hoop some of the yeah, some of the stuff.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah they're there, they don't. They don't appreciate it, that's
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, spot awful. Look everyone up right. There's
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: always like a few second delays. So it's not like
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: they waited. It's it's some of them sought live and
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: then waited to feel comfortable. If the crowd saying I'm
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: telling the truth to others are like, damn, this is
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: just bad, I gotta chime in.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: So yeah, one of these dads will circle back and
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: all right, you know that was that was decent. You know,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: be B for effort, not an A for effort will
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: give you a B or C or something.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: There's always like one out of every hundred that agree
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: with you. On the steak table.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: The food stuff like strength and numbers, people wait to sell.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Everyone's everyone's talking. I'm gonna pile on and say it
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: was terrible, but then you see it starts reverting back
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: and people have my back. So someone's gonna come in
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: and say, you know, there is something there. Little new knows.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: It's family here. We always speak out.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: We will talk about it. All right, I appreciate it.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Second last winner of a Golden Ship. And like I say,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: it's been a season long thing. We've done it week
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: one through sixteen, so this has been an awesome time,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun with you guys. I know different
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: pieces of feedback will take it and move forward with it,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: but I thought it was a lot of fun. And
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: like Hoop said from the very beginning, it's a free roll.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: You were already coming over. You're already getting the stone,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: You're getting sabers in whatever your planing packages, You're already
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: getting everything for the most affordable, most valuable price out there.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: But this was just an add on bonus on top. Again,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know too many sites, actually I know zero
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: giving away eighty five thousand dollars in cash and prizes
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: from their side of things. But we love to give back.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: We have a ton of fun doing it. So go
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: on x at ship a Nation, check out the twelve
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Days of Shipments for even more giveaways. But the winner
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: of Golden Ship at number forty nine, and I should
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: note the suspense will leave it for a second. It
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: is a five point fifty five MILLI to wrap up
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: the season, so you got one more shot at the
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: big Boy said it, So I would love for it
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: to be something big. We've only hit like three or
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: four men caches on the season that kind of just
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: paid for some of the buyings and stuff. But this
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: is the winner. The winner of Golden Ship at number
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: forty nine is Michael j m Jacob sixty four to
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: eighty is the discord government.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: I got with Michael j Michael Jordan, Like, that's the
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: first thing that popped in my head. So I'm thinking,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: like winning, success, getting to the top. So I like it,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: all right. I do like good first name, good first name,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: you know I mean, And.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: He doesn't even have to play against you. He just
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: gets to go straight to the share ships. So awesome job. Yeah,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: congrats you spell your first name?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: Who?
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Huh? I don't have to. I don't know any other
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: way to spell Michael. I don't know.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: Well I didn't know if I assumed it was Michael
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: and not Mike.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: But okay, got you got you?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe I should have just said, is that your
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: name first name?
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah? How do you say that? You spell it?
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: Mike Michel to Michel?
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, beatle bang got Everyone wants to be like Mike.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: You get that seat number forty nine you punched the
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: last available auto ticket. Now remember everybody, check your emails.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: Make sure you're checking it out for the other Golden Shipper.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: It's only got about I think seventy eight or eighty
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: nine somewhere in that range right now of the potential
• 1:09:21
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• 1:09:23
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• 1:09:26
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• 1:09:29
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• 1:09:31
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• 1:09:35
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• 1:09:42
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• 1:09:45
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• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: We're talking movies, like Mike, either of you guys seem
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: like Mike bow wow right.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: That might have went over my head, but you.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Don't know about No. No, man, I'm pretty sure he's
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: the guy in the movie man that that was.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: The actor, that was the that was the guy that
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: played the kid.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't know actors any of that, don't nobody.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: But I know a movie I know, like Mike, I
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: watched that was making baby, We're making progress.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: That was a great movie.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: Like whatress?
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Little Romeo is masterpiece. Son. I was trying
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: to look it up and they had beef before him
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: a little bao. This sounds back in the day for title.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: He doesn't he doesn't know these guys. It's really old school.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's an interesting every.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: Time, little neck. I literally don't know any actors.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: I just know you, Yeah, exactly, But hey, I knew
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: a movie, so we're going in the right direction.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. I do not know the
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: actors at all. Like I know the main people, like
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: the big name people, but like outside of that, I'm
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: drawn dead.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: Who doesn't even know the other sites in the industry
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: barely today, you know, we talked with other people that
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: we're working with, working against all the sud oh who's that? Like,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: he's no idea. So it's good we stay focused over here.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: That's the key, right, we're dialed in. That's why title
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: is grinding ev left and right. He was on the
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: did we had a team meeting yesterday and Titles at
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: the poker table love to see it. Just never the
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: grind never stops. Title any any other final thoughts for you,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: my friend before we get out of here.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: A good game tonight, Yeah, great real life game and
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: a great DFS game.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: There's so many options in the flex, Like if you
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: think it's a pooker a JSNDA, Yes, they'll be popular
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: up top, you can play them. There's so many ways
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: to get different, so many options of guys that will
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: be on the field.
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  Speaker 2: We have some value.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's a great slate.
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited to watch a good real life football game,
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  Speaker 3: even if it's ten to seven and it's one of
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: the Hey, we got two teams that are going to
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  Speaker 3: be fighting some of the favorites to win it all,
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  Speaker 3: so yeah, we don't get that very often on Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be a good one. I'm certainly excited
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  Speaker 1: for it. Hoop. Any final thoughts from you, my man
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  Speaker 1: before we get out of here.
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, good, good game. Do you kick off Week sixteen?
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: You know, big prize pools obviously, and then we got
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: my season long championship kicking off. So excited for that.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll give you guys an update on Sunday late.
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  Speaker 2: You know how things start there I.
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  Speaker 1: Got a season long thing quick before we go. I
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: got Williams, and I was gonna I was thinking about
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: putting him on the bench. But now that you guys
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: got me all hyped up, I got CMC and somebody
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: else I forget. But it was like, you know, he
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: was kind of like right in that mix. But then
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: I was like, is he really gonna get these points tonight?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: But you got me all hyped up? Title, So I'm
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: all into.
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  Speaker 4: That's who your other one is. I mean, there's definitely
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: some risk we're playing.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking DFS wise, like he's salaries high, he's gonna
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: get squeezed all that.
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  Speaker 1: But I got I got CMC, which I'm not taking out.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: I got Trebon Henderson versus buying him playing him, and
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: then I've got the choice of Judkins against Buffalo, Aaron Jones,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: Aaron Jones against the Giants, and then Williams tonight.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's probably Williams. I mean it's hard to
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: it's definitely hard to play Buckkins right now. But Aaron
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  Speaker 3: Jones is a full point or half point.
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  Speaker 1: It's a half point silly stuff. Oh no, actually play
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: full point, full point.
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  Speaker 4: Full point. I don't know I think i'd probably go
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  Speaker 4: Aaron Jones.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, leave Judkins on the bench.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: That's an easy decision. Titled boy remains on the bench
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  Speaker 2: for sure?
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  Speaker 1: What about like these explosive backs against Buffalo that just
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden just get open. But he's not
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: that explosive because he doesn't have an O line, So
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: I tell you.
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  Speaker 3: I can't really catch they don't really throw to him. Yeah,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: that's I mean, it's definitely a decision. I don't know it,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: Aaron Jones. I also like on stuff like that. It's
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: you can get so tilted just looking at Friday, Saturday,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: Sunday at Kyron four or whatever it is.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: What about this? You guys are the best at this
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: type of stuff. He the opponent has Puoka, So do
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: I steal his lunch with with Williams and hope that
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: that's how it goes? Or do I say, if Pooka
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: actually does his job, it kills me because he gets
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: the Pooka, I lose on Williams and I could have
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: had a different option in there. What's the game theory?
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: What's the I would play Puka for sure? All right,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I play for sure.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know it's tough. I'd go Aaron Jones
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: probably and wait, but well.
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  Speaker 1: I I'm still playing him too. I got four running backs.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, you gotta play CMC. Well, I got two
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: flex and my rather receip. So I'm thinking about I
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: was it was really I have to pick two of
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Judkins and Aaron Jones. But I think I'll go Jones
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: and Kiren and just call it on the bench. All right,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: We'll do bettest props on the weekend if I get crushed.
• 1:14:30
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