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"We Must Do SOME Thing! But why THIS Thing?" (Thursday September 18, 2025, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: We've got to protect our phony. Beloni job Jonnerman.
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  Speaker 2: We must do something about this immediately, immediately, immediately.
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  Speaker 3: The first thing today on the talk media network by
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  Joe Thomas, the second most famous Thomas and Charlottesville jeord said,
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  steal me stem.
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  Speaker 1: You have a day at least for work.
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  Speaker 4: When the sun comes up, drops appear at the school.
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  Speaker 5: Joe has everything, agenda.
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  Speaker 2: All the Josue needs no one that Joe zellis smile,
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  he on the eggs.
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  Speaker 1: Let it be Joe. You're letting us be of service
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  to you.
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  Speaker 6: I want to be Joe.
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  Speaker 1: Four three four eighty two four two one seven. That
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  is our phone number. Emails come into JT in the
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  morning radio at gmail dot com and uh so we
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  uh by all means any of the things that we've
• 1:02
  been into already, if you're joining us in progress. A
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  lot of it has to do with the mailstrom of reaction,
• 1:08
  mostly negative to Pam Bondi, Attorney General of the United States,
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  suggesting that they were going to quote go after hate speech,
• 1:18
  and of course a lot of people saying, hold on
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  a second, here, we've heard this before, and we played
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  the Horace Cooper, perhaps one of the great judicial minds
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  out there. Project twenty one at the National Center was
• 1:33
  on this program talking about his concern about norm busting events,
• 1:37
  and he brought up COVID, and Mary writes, and she's like,
• 1:40
  Horace thinks we've returned to normal since COVID. Has he
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  not seen all the people walking the streets still wearing
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  their woke masks, all by themselves, without being within fifty feet,
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  never mind six feet of somebody they might infect. And
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  of course you realize they're mostly wearing those woe masks
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  A to appear woke and concerning for others, and B
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  to protect themselves from all those people they want to
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  think they're caring about. We haven't recovered from COVID, Joe.
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  We just haven't changed as many of the laws as
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  we did after September eleventh. Hashtag elections and your point
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  about the election law, that's some of the most important stuff.
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  And I think COVID, though you know, Horace is an
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  esteemed jurist, and I'm very clear about his role on
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  when he visits with us. I'm listening, but I do
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  disagree that COVID has gone away. But I think COVID,
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  along with September eleventh, along with Charlie Kirk can lead
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  us into a very very bad place where we just
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  like the Romans did when Caesar came along. Sure, yeah,
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  protect us and we lose all our liberty and we
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  do exactly what Benjamin Franklin warned us against. And funny,
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  you know I mentioned Benjamin Franklin and people pooh pooh oh.
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  Well he wasn't really anyone. Usually you would think that
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  the Left would fall all over themselves to love ben
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  Franklin lived in an apartment his whole life, not a
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  big landowner, not a wealthy guy. Well I guess at
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  the end he was wealthy, estranged from his kids. I mean,
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  this guy was the avatar for the modern American democrat.
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  Yet they seem to not want to pay much heed
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  to what Benjamin Franklin warned about regarding safety and liberty
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  and security and liberty and whether you should have both
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  at the same time or deserve neither of them. But
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  we'll get into that more reactions to stuff, including our
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  discussion of the Bill of Rights yesterday, which I was
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  surprised after the program how many folks were emailing the program.
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  But we must lay out the first things so that
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  we can discuss Hey, this one's notable Kremlin spokesperson lost
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  in the shuffle of all the other news stories, Dmitri
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  Peskoff said, after answering press questions on whether or not
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  the additional sanctions against Russian oil sales was having an impact,
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  said that the Kremlin is open to resolving the conflict
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  in Ukraine through diplomatic means. One wonders. The American Broadcasting
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  Corporation of Private American Industry has suspended one of their
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  employees for comments they made that brought them into disrepute,
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  alleging on Tuesday Night Jimmy Kimmel on his Late Night
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  show that the he used assailant of Charlie Kirk was
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  a conservative MAGA gang member and that the right wing
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  was doing anything they could to score political points from it.
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  Brendan Carr, FCC Commissioner, urged local broadcasters to stop airing
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  the program, but ABC beat them to it. A week
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  after the fact. Fellow Chicago wan Barack Obama weighed in
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  on the assassination of Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk,
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  calling it a horrific tragedy and asking for a clear
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  and forthright condemnation of violence from both sides. President Trump
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  says he has designated the group antifa, which is an
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  acronymic phrase for anti fascist, as a major terrorist organization,
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  which moves them onto a list of groups that can
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  be monitored more carefully. Federal Appeals Court on Wednesday refused
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  for now to allow the President's administration to continue with
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  an overhaul of the Department of Health and Human Services,
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  and the Federal Reserve cut its key interest rate by
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  a quarter point projecting it might do it twice more
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  Speaker 9: I think you all know that I've always felt the
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  nine most terrifying words in the English language are.
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  Speaker 3: Amaze your friends. Here a first thing today by Joe Thomas.
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  Speaker 5: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for adding the end. I didn't. I
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  didn't like what you're going with that. There. There's a
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  little salty about that. But then again, I'm thin skinned
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  and shallow. That's why I'm in broadcasting four three, four
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  eight eight two four two one seven and with apologies
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  to red buttons, never got whistled blow of protection. I mean,
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  how many times do we have to call out my
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  brethren and sister and yet they still hang out with me.
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  That's the part that's amazing to me. So finish up
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  on the on the dangers this norm busting that Horace
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  Cooper was warning us about on Monday Mornings program that
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  we now are you know hearing in abstract when Pam
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  Bondi says on Tuesday, you know, we're going to go
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  after a hate speech, and everyone says, WHOA, we would?
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  And here's the problem. The people were saying, WHOA are
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  still the ones who don't go out and say anything
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  about the Patriot Act and how the Patriot Act was
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  all well and good until Barack Obama got in charge
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  of it. When Eric Holder, the Attorney General, got in
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  charge of the Patriot Act and said, oh, hey, you
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  know what we could do with this. We could have
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  some fun. We we could actually do something, you know,
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  against our political opponents. We don't have to hire plumbers.
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  We own the we have the FBI. We can send
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  them in there all we have to do is make
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  it out like there's some sort of, uh a national
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  security problem. I got an email of two of them
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  about yesterday's discussion about the original draft of the Bill
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  of Rights, uh and why I get so fixated on
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  these things, and I want to address that. But let
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  me get to you at four three, four, eight eight,
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  two four to two one seven this morning, first thing today?
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  Good morning? Who's this.
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  Speaker 17: Is sunke Hi?
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Susan. How are you.
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  Speaker 17: I'm pretty good? How about you?
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm talking with you, which always makes me happy,
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  even though this is the first time we've met. I
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  just like conversation with people. I geek out on meeting
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  new people.
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  Speaker 17: I know that I'm a little slow. But you made
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  the comment about the hate crime and I wondered if
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  you had ever looked up in statistics on those.
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  Speaker 1: It's stuff to pin down specific statistics on hate crime
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  because they are generally put together by people with an
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  already corrupted agenda regarding you know, what statistics they want
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  to get. That makes you know, statistic gathering on that
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  very difficult. And you're not slow. That's a very important
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  thing to look at.
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  Speaker 17: Yeah, well, I was curious years ago I looked it up.
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  And that's why I asked you that, because when I
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  looked it up, I found out that any of those
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  reported hate crimes, they stay on the statistics even though
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  almost all of them are proven to be false.
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  Speaker 1: You mean, like if somebody calls, like when the boy
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  who cries wolf, it becomes statistically, well, we've had six
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  reports of wolves week, rather than oh, there were no
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  reports of actual wolves being there. And and that's that's
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  also an important part, uh to it. And and yesterday
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  we were talking a little bit, Susan about tort reform
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  and you know, ways to fix sort of the judicial
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  system run amok, where the especially the government can use
• 17:22
  the judicial system against citizens. But also there's frivolous lawsuits
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  and things like that that go about. And how do
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  you get to decide what a frivolous lawsuit is? And
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  you make it a bottom up thing. So if if
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  somebody reports a crime and one of the things in
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  you you may be new to the program, Susan, And
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  I appreciate what part of Colorado are you calling from,
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  by the way, Cortez, Okay, well it's a I honeymooned
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  in Colorado and it's beautiful there the the the issue
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  with putting the modifiers on these things is you're now
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  creating different tiers of crime. So is it okay to
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  commit something if it's not a hate crime? Is that
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  an excusable crime? And you see how it opens the
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  door to those George Sorows prosecutors to then use their
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  discretion to say, ah, he stole all your merchandise from
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  your clothing store, but he needed you know, he was poor,
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  and it wasn't a hate crime. He was doing it
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  as a crime of convenience, a crime of survival. And
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  you start to create these adjective corruptions in it that
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  I always push back against even discussing something as a
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  hate crime or not, because I think if you threaten
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  to hurt somebody, it doesn't matter whether you hate them
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  or are being paid to hurt them. It's still the
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  same aspect of you're threatening somebody's safety and security. And
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  so I worry about these special government labels. But if
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  you accuse somebody of this, what is the what is
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  the blowback? As you mentioned, it's the statistic stays on
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  the record, but does the accuser ever face any charges?
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  So if I go into your Sheriff's office in Cortes
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  and say, Susan threatened me and I want you to
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  arrest her because I feel in danger of my life
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  or even a red flag law. I don't think you
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  have red flag laws where you are. And they're trying
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  to get to me or yeah, and they'll be back
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  to try and kind I'm sure, And you have all
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  your firearms taken away from you and it turns out
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  you weren't a threat to me at all. What's the
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  punishment for you for making that false police report? And
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  I know that most municipalities have laws on the books
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  for filing false police reports, but do they ever get
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  followed up on? That's a bigger statistic is all the
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  false hate crime reports? Did anyone ever face charges for
• 20:05
  the false report? I mentioned Tawana Brawley before. Now I
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  know that Tauana Brawley is currently living in Virginia working
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  as a nurse in nursing homes in not too far
• 20:18
  from where our flagship station is, and she is still
• 20:22
  trying to pay off the compensation the millions of dollars
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  she owes the two state troopers families for filing that
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  false police report, and a lot of people are mad
• 20:34
  at Al Sharpton because he's made millions of dollars and
• 20:37
  he's never helped her out, even though he kind of
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  climbed over the steaming remains of this story to make
• 20:44
  himself popular. So that's what has to happen in order
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  to fix these hate crime reports, is there has to
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  be some recompense for those who you file a false
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  police report. You see what I'm saying, Susan.
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  Speaker 17: It's called justice, funny our nature used to have. But
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  the thing with that is that even if they do
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  get have to pay like money, that doesn't restore that
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  person's reputation.
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  Speaker 1: That is true that as a matter of fact.
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  Speaker 17: Yeah, I always thought, I'm sorry that in cases like
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  that that the person should be have to get up
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  in public and just like all the newspapers that report lies,
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  they should have to get up in public and say
• 21:44
  that they lied, and do it just as many times
• 21:49
  as they did.
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  I'm doctor Mitch. Since most chronic diseases have inflammation, our
• 24:18
  optimized curcumin seems to be a perfect addition to any
• 24:22
  nutritional program. It makes sense to me that preventing or
• 24:26
  reducing inflammation is a key component to our overall health.
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  The Mayo Clinic found that kurcumin can decrease swelling and inflammation,
• 24:36
  has antioxidant properties, and research suggests that kurcumin can prevent
• 24:42
  cancer or at least slow the spread of cancer, and
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  in many instances, make chemotherapy more effective. It protects our
• 24:50
  healthy cells even from radiation. Total Wellness dot com where
• 24:56
  we help you to look good, feel good, and enjoy
• 24:59
  total wealth.
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  Speaker 9: I'm Andrew Saul, Commission of Self Security. I'm here to
• 25:06
  warn you about telephone scammers pretending to be government employees.
• 25:10
  Some of these scammers may say threatening things like you
• 25:13
  will be arrested if you don't make payments or provide
• 25:17
  personal information. Do not fall for these tricks. These calls
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  Speaker 1: That's what we're doing, you know, hang on till the
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  bell rings, and that the message that your parents taught
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  you at some point in your life. Maybe it was
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  just mine. Uh there and a reminder and yeah, it's
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  a grand or abstract on this, but people ask me
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  all the time why. I was asked this at a
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  vigil for Charlie Kirk, and they were asked, why do
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  you do what you do? You're living in one of
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  the most and you were tied to one of the
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  most blue areas in America. Yeah, but it's the home
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  of the founders of both the Declaration of Independence and
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  the US Constitution. How could you not how could you
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  not stand up for the reputation of a place like Charlottesville, Virginia,
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  even if they don't want it, even if they want
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  to insist on immolating themselves on the public squares. And
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  here we go again with this debate in Augusta County
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  about whether or not it's settled science or not, as
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  if such a thing could exist. And I love listening
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  to the scientific community talk about settled science like the
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  flat Earth. As a matter of fact, I know where
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  to find some Flat Earth Society people if you want.
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  I have a pin that somebody sent me from Apparently
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  they were visiting Houston or something. They got a pin
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  and it's the NASA logo, but instead of NASA it
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  says not flat But you know there are current living
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  members of the Flat Earth Society if you want to
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  tell me the science is settled. But why do we
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  do this? Why do we call out? Because humanity has
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  gone through this cycle time and time again of liberty
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  followed by prosperity, followed by apathy, followed by disparity, followed
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  by debauchery followed by tyranny again, and we go through
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  this cycle. I think it's three four times societally, and
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  it always ends in bloodshed, the blood of patriots is
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  spilled to win liberty for those around them. And each time,
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  I think we get better at it. And this time
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  we actually have a toolkit that says God gave us
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  our rights, not some king. Because you know, each of
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  the previous times we were tying our wagons to the
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  The government will do it. And by the time Jefferson
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  But when they wrote out and said God gives you
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  about no, I don't believe that that's what Iranians believe.
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  So it's but I believe wholeheartedly that because of technology,
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  not in spy of technology, because of technology, we have
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  an opportunity to do so much more towards fighting back
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  the inevitability of that cycle. We just look at what's
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  Why are you being mean to them? Because you have
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  to be mean to the detectives to make sure they're detecting. Unfortunately,
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  we don't have this kind of scrutiny on every murder
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  that happens in every city. We should. We should have
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  people downloading screen caps and and and getting from what's
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  a wayback dot com. There's a website that basically screen
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  caps everything that has ever happened on the Internet. You
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  think some posts you made to social media has gone
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  oh contraire. I think it's wayback dot com. So WaybackMachine
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  dot com. I know of it. I just have never
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  used it myself. But because of that technology, maybe where
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  the first generation that avoids the fate of all the
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  ones that preceded US. I, speaking of preceding US, I've
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  saved a couple of emails after yesterday's program because we
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  were talking about the original proposed Bill of Rights and
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  Mark rights in. Mark's a long time caller, first time listener,
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  no other way around, Mark writes in he says, Joe,
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  I frequently have heard you talk about the original draft
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  of the Declaration of Independence, and you've read eloquently Thomas
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  Jefferson's Treatise against Slavery. I've never heard you talk about
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  the original version of the Bill of Rights before yesterday,
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  And to my peril, because I was working out of
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  context with one another, we have, as Mark points out
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  in his email, on frequent occasions, talked about how the
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  Act of nineteen twenty nine, an act, by the way,
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  to keep black people from getting too much representation in Congress. Oh,
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  such a powerful weapon at my behest in my argument
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  that we are underrepresented. And here's the thing, it's a
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  bipartisan issue. You ask poor black families that have voted
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  for everyone from JFK on up LBJ and every Democrat
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  they wheeled out against Ronald Reagan, Walter Mondale, you name it.
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  feel like your congressman hears you? And they'll say no.
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  think your congressman hears you? No? Because if you read,
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  the original draft has sent out for ratification of the
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  Bill of Rights, the very first one, as we're told,
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  the first amendment being about free speech. This is what
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  the founders thought the most important thing to protect was
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  was free speech and the freedom of religion. Largely, the
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  very most important thing that the Founders thought they needed
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  to protect us from was an overly powerful Congress. So
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  dilute Congress, restrict how many people Congress can represent as
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  the country grows, Congress grows. That's only fair, right, And
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  would you believe in a country right now that has
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  seven hundred and twenty odd citizens for every congressional representatives.
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  The original Bill of Rights mandated that that number be
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  no higher than fifty thousand. Holy cow, Joe. And this
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  email follows on that trail. Jack says, Joe, do you
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  realize what a six thousand person Congress would look like? Sure?
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  I mean, there are theaters in Washington, DC right now
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  with more seating capacity than that. So don't tell me
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  you can't build a six thousand person amphitheater. Build it
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  right there off off of the Capitol building. If you
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  a build a ten thousand person amphitheater or arena or
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  theater off of the congressional halls, and that six thousand.
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  I don't care. It's how we're supposed to be represented.
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  And this is what the founders thought was the most
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  what we stand for because we are told and it
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  the original draft of the Declaration of Independence and its
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  tell me how America is inherently a slave nation, not
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  by what it looked like here. Looked like the people
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  it failed because the king wouldn't allow their ministrations. One
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  of the abuses. It looks like the biggest fear that
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  What is Joe Thomas kinver? And please, for those who
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  in the foundation of this country was an overly concentrated
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  federal government full of people who represent, you know, a
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  bigger and bigger portion of the population whose voices are
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  becoming more and more negligible. I agreed with him, and
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  I'm glad I realized that I should have been using
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  this profound weapon on my behalf to call for apportionment reform.
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  And here's why. Sherry writes in about what would the
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  difference be, a six thousand person Congress wouldn't get anything
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  done more than a four hundred and thirty five person Congress. Well,
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  I don't agree with that, because some of the most
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  the nineteen twenty nine Permanent Reapportionment Act. So we continued
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  to have an increasingly large Congress through the end of
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  the Civil War. And here's my problem with the Permanent
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  Reapportionment Act. For all the people who say that the
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  United States was foundationally racist, because we had we couldn't
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  get the Jeffersonian passage of this. The Permanent Reapportionment Act
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  was written and passed by the Dixiecrats specifically so that
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  they would because they were watching this growing more prosperous
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  black populations and they were afraid there were going to be,
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  you know, large blocks of freed slaves and their descendants
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  becoming members of Congress and having representation and messing things
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  up for the white sheet crowd. So why if you're
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  a Democrat and you you don't support the idea of
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  tearing up the Permanent Reapportionment Act and getting and I
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  would argue, And I brought this up my friends at
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  the Convention of States Nancy. Nancy's trying to get the
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  I would just say I would like to reinvestigate this
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  and then go on a nationwide campaign on why a
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  now is this inability to have our voices heard. And yes,
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  that would mean six thousand people in the US House
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  The percentage is eighty five percent. Eighty five percent of
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  all the counties in the United States, including counties like Richmond,
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  New York. Do you know what county? Richmond, New York
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  is more commonly known as Staten Island, Nassau County, Suffolk County.
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  These counties all voted for Donald Trump. You imagine a
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  Congress full of people from those counties. Nassau County alone
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  has a million one point five I think, or maybe
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  approaching two million people in just Nassau County, Suffolk County
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  almost one point five million people. We're on there in
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  WRCN at Long Island News Radio on Saturday and Sunday,
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  and I'm going to bring this up to them. Then
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  they'd have four or five six congress people, all Republicans.
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  But if you lived in a particularly blue area of
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  a red county, maybe your fifty thousand people would have
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  and it is surrounded by red counties, so you should
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  you cannot buy off six thousand people or even three
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  thousand people to get your way, and liberty is restored
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  in a lot of ways. Anyway, It's just one thought
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  for you today until tomorrow morning, five Eastern Joe Thomas,
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  So long and thanks for all the fish.
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