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Member for Solomon Luke Gosling is calling for greater transparency after ScoMo secretly appointed himself to several ministries · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: As we have heard obviously, a senior Liberal frontbencher whose
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  Speaker 1: role was assumed by Scott Morrison without her knowledge, has
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  Speaker 1: called on the former Prime Minister to resign from parliament
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  Speaker 1: as he admits the extraordinary move to jointly appoint himself
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  Speaker 1: to several ministries in secret was unnecessary. Now Minister Morrison
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  Speaker 1: appointed himself to jointly run the Home Affairs portfolio without
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  Speaker 1: ever informing then Minister Karen Andrews. She said that in
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  Speaker 1: a statement and said that it's just unacceptable and if
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  Speaker 1: this is the way that he prepared that he is
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  Speaker 1: prepared to conduct himself without an adequate explanation, even though
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  Speaker 1: it's now going to be well past the time when
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  Speaker 1: such an explanation should have been made, then it is
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  Speaker 1: time for him to leave the parliament and look elsewhere
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  Speaker 1: for employment. That is the statement from Karen Andrews. Now
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  Speaker 1: joining me in the studio to talk about this and
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  Speaker 1: plenty of other things is Luke Gosling, Labour's Member for Solomon.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Luke.
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  Speaker 2: Look what do you reckon? Does he need to resign
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  Speaker 2: over this?
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  Speaker 3: He should?
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  Speaker 4: He should leave the parliament. Yeah, he I saw him
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  Speaker 4: in the last sittings and he didn't look like a
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  Speaker 4: happy chabby And maybe it was because he wasn't the
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  Speaker 4: Prime minister anymore, but I think also it's because this
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  Speaker 4: isn't going to be the end of it. There's going
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  Speaker 4: to be more and more information come out about how
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  Speaker 4: controlling bullying that culture was within his ministry when he
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  Speaker 4: was the Prime minister. It doesn't reflect well on him
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  Speaker 4: and he should apologize and just finish up and do
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  Speaker 4: something else.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I was going to say, do you think
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  Speaker 1: that he needs to issue a formal apology? And look,
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  Speaker 1: I know there'll be people listening this morning thinking, oh,
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  Speaker 1: come on, Katie, you're asking a labor a labor bloke,
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  Speaker 1: whether he thinks the Liberal Party, you know, members should
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  Speaker 1: be offering an apology and standing down. But like, it
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  Speaker 1: is about transparency here, and it is actually about acknowledging
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  Speaker 1: that you've done the wrong thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's why they fought so hard against the
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  Speaker 4: Royal Commission into Defense and Veteran suicide. That's why they've
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  Speaker 4: fought so hard against a Royal Commission into the banks
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  Speaker 4: and the financial sector. That's why they fought so hard
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  Speaker 4: against a National Integrity Commission of federal IKAK. They don't
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  Speaker 4: like transparency because what transparency does is to make sure
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  Speaker 4: that the power is with the people because they're fully
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  Speaker 4: aware of what's happening in government, and when you're dealing
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  Speaker 4: with taxpayer funds, the more transparency the better.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think this, It sort of indicates that there
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  Speaker 1: could be ways that we can do things better in
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  Speaker 1: the future, so something like this can't happen again.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we need to have better people in leadership positions, clearly.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's for both sides.
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  Speaker 4: If there's people who aren't up to the job, they
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  Speaker 4: aren't doing the job ethically, responsibly and with appropriate transparency
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  Speaker 4: around their decision making. Obviously there's some things around national
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  Speaker 4: security where you know you can't have everyone knowing the
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  Speaker 4: reasons behind certain decisions. But in general, if you had
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  Speaker 4: to come out and said, look, it's extraordinary time with
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  Speaker 4: COVID and for some other reasons, I'm going to give
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  Speaker 4: myself these other powers, then people could have thought, well,
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  Speaker 4: is that reasonable or not. But he didn't do that.
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  Speaker 3: He just hit it all.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not telling those ministers.
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  Speaker 1: I think is what I find so astonishing is that
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  Speaker 1: you know you're all on the same team and you're
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  Speaker 1: not telling your teammate that you've done something.
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  Speaker 2: That's the part that I struggle to get past.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is that is shocking, and you know why
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't deserve to keep the leadership of the party
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  Speaker 4: or the country's Prime minister. And the Australian people made
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  Speaker 4: that decision that, yeah, they wanted to give the current PM,
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  Speaker 4: Anthony Albanese go to get the country back on track.
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  Speaker 4: And I think we've started well in doing that. But
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  Speaker 4: I'm not making a political point. Whoever it was that
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  Speaker 4: took that much power for themselves without communicating it. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we had a situation where the head of the Home
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  Speaker 4: Affairs Department, a public servant, didn't know that he could
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  Speaker 4: be told what to do with the Prime Minister directly
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  Speaker 4: in areas that were Home Affairs Minister's responsibility without any
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  Speaker 4: proper process. So it's bad look there. He should resign
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  Speaker 4: and we can crack on.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it is a bad look.
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  Speaker 1: And I know that there has been sort of some
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  Speaker 1: critics saying, well, hang on, is this labor trying to
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  Speaker 1: deflect and not talk about cost of living? But I
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  Speaker 1: will say that we've had you on plenty of times.
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  Speaker 1: Actually over the last couple of weeks when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to cost of living, and one of those issues that
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  Speaker 1: has been really high on the agenda is the price
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  Speaker 1: of fuel. Now, you and I had a discussion about
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  Speaker 1: a week ago about this. We're finally seeing a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of movement at the bowser.
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  Speaker 2: Not enough.
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  Speaker 1: I'll just take you through the prices today. So if
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  Speaker 1: you're unleaded in Darwin at the terminal gate, it's on
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  Speaker 1: a dollar fifty five point four.
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  Speaker 2: When you go.
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  Speaker 1: Across to the bowser, the fairest that you are going
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  Speaker 1: to find it's a dollar eighty three, but the large
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  Speaker 1: majority at a dollar eighty nine. The average is a
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  Speaker 1: dollar eighty nine. There, absolutely all of them are at
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  Speaker 1: a dollar eighty nine. Some of them point five, some
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  Speaker 1: of them point seven, some of them point nine.
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  Speaker 2: But what I can.
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  Speaker 1: Say is one of them, besides fuel Express, none of
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  Speaker 1: them are any different.
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  Speaker 4: Now, then when you go because weird, isn't it that
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  Speaker 4: they're all doing the same thing?
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  Speaker 1: Weird?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think? Look?
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  Speaker 3: I think so.
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  Speaker 1: Now, then when you go across to the terminal gate,
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  Speaker 1: a dollar seventy seven point eight. Forear diesel. When you
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  Speaker 1: go across to the bowser, the fairest that well, the
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  Speaker 1: average that you're going to find at for your diesel
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  Speaker 1: is then at two dollars nine. So again absolutely everywhere
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  Speaker 1: at that same price, two dollars nine, two dollars nine
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  Speaker 1: point nine, two dollars nine point seven, two dollars nine
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  Speaker 1: point five.
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  Speaker 4: And here's something through the chats that we've been having
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  Speaker 4: Cady and listeners that understand in in more detail how
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  Speaker 4: all this works than I do. Have pointed out that
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  Speaker 4: the fuel companies buy their fuel for at least eight
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  Speaker 4: cents a leader below the terminal Gay price. So the
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  Speaker 4: terminal Gay price is a dollar fifty five, they're playing
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  Speaker 4: a dollar forty seven. Now it costs between twelve and
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  Speaker 4: fourteen cents a leter to profitly profitably operate one of
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  Speaker 4: these surveys, right, but they're making obscene profits. They're making
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  Speaker 4: forty to forty six percent.
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  Speaker 3: Leader.
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  Speaker 2: Why did you get that from that? They're actually buying
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  Speaker 2: it for cheaper then what's at the terminal gate.
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  Speaker 4: That's from someone very knowledgeable in the industry who I
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  Speaker 4: won't mention on air, but they know what they're talking about.
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  Speaker 4: And this is why I'm looking at an inquiry because
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  Speaker 4: I'm now running a committee that does have transporters part
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  Speaker 4: of its charter. Now, the decision on what what we
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  Speaker 4: inquire into with my committees ultimately made by the Minister,
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  Speaker 4: not Scott Morrison, but the actual minister. So it's one
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  Speaker 4: thing that I'm looking at because not only does gouging
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  Speaker 4: by these fuel companies concern me because territories and Australians
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  Speaker 4: all around the country are struggling with the cost of living,
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  Speaker 4: but fuel security I think we need to look at
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  Speaker 4: that as well. We're down to two refineries now, so
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  Speaker 4: we need to be able to make our own fuel
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  Speaker 4: and affordable prices and have these companies not able to
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  Speaker 4: gouge as much as they are.
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  Speaker 1: So Loke, you were going to last time we spoke,
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  Speaker 1: you were going to get in contact, You're going to
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  Speaker 1: write a letter to the A Triple C.
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  Speaker 2: Did you end up doing that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been speaking, well, I've been speaking with the
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  Speaker 4: minister who deals with the A Triple C. I note
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  Speaker 4: that the Chief Minister has but yeah, I'm talking to
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  Speaker 4: our federal minister. Is a good thing about being in
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  Speaker 4: government now, is it? When you're talking to the ministers,
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  Speaker 4: you're talking to the people that are directly responsible for
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  Speaker 4: these issues.
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  Speaker 1: So are you pushing for there to be an inquiry
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  Speaker 1: now into these petrol prices?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what you'd like to see?
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  Speaker 4: But I think i'd like to see something that brings
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  Speaker 4: in fuel security as well, so fuel affordability because it
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  Speaker 4: affects so many companies, but also this issue of fuel security,
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  Speaker 4: because you know, we used to have I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if you remember, but there was the Energy Minister Angus Taylor,
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  Speaker 4: and he bought fuel from America that's sitting in America,
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  Speaker 4: but I don't think that's even there anymore as part
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  Speaker 4: of some international fuel deal that we might not have
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  Speaker 4: that anymore. So we may actually only have a couple
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  Speaker 4: of days of fuel reserves, and you can't run a country,
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  Speaker 4: you can't run an economy, and you can't provide for
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  Speaker 4: your citizens. One is fuel's unreasonably expensive, and two if
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  Speaker 4: it's not available.
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  Speaker 1: How soon could we potentially see this inquiry get on
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  Speaker 1: the way?
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  Speaker 2: What are the next steps from your perspective?
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  Speaker 4: Well, obviously there are some other topics that different members
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  Speaker 4: have said that, you know, because it's a big area
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  Speaker 4: of portfolio. I guess because regional development, well, fuel price
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  Speaker 4: is important to regional development. Obviously it's infrastructure. We know
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  Speaker 4: that all the inputs for Dorn business are going up,
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  Speaker 4: and fuels one of them. But then it's transport as well,
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  Speaker 4: and of fuel, and that diesel price in particular has
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  Speaker 4: a big effect on our transport industry.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Working up what I would see is a good terms
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  Speaker 4: of reference for that. It's not a guarantee that we'll
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  Speaker 4: be inquiring into that initially because there are other topics
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  Speaker 4: that the Minister may have, but it's definitely in the mix.
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  Speaker 2: And you're going to be pushing for it by the
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  Speaker 2: sounds of it.
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  Speaker 3: Ontie.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, look let's move on because I know
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  Speaker 1: that this Friday, just briefly that there is going to
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  Speaker 1: be a town hall meeting held for arts organizations and
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  Speaker 1: also it's about the national cultural policy.
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  Speaker 2: What exactly is happening.
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  Speaker 4: Just before we move off fuel, I'll just mentioned, Katie
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  Speaker 4: that we see this time and time again when we
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  Speaker 4: bring attention to the gouging of the retail fuel companies,
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  Speaker 4: they drop the price a little bit and hope that
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  Speaker 4: everyone sort of gets on with life because we're all busy.
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  Speaker 4: Then it comes back up. So we just want to
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  Speaker 4: keep the pressure on. So thanks for helping me with that.
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  Speaker 4: And Templeman's been appointed. She's a colleague of mine from
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  Speaker 4: down the Blue Mountains where she's been appointed by the
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  Speaker 4: Prime Minister as an envoy for the arts and what
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  Speaker 4: we're going to establish as a new cultural policy. We're
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  Speaker 4: having a consultation on Friday morning at Browns Mart, so
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  Speaker 4: come along to that. It's how we can really leverage
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  Speaker 4: our arts policy as an economic driver as well. So
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  Speaker 4: one of the best things in Australia is our creative
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  Speaker 4: arts and they actually bring a lot of money into
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  Speaker 4: our economy.
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  Speaker 2: So look at the Darwin Festival right now.
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  Speaker 4: One percent down there last night. I'll be there again
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  Speaker 4: tonight and tomorrow night. It's just incredible. But so yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it was a pleasure to launch a new program that
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  Speaker 4: Asia Link's running, which will have us our art and
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  Speaker 4: our festivals interacting with festivals in our window Pacific regions.
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, Brown's Mart nine point thirty Friday morning. We've
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  Speaker 4: also got Amanda Rishworth in town. She's a Minister for
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  Speaker 4: and Services and she's coming to the party with some
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  Speaker 4: domestic violence funding. We know that we're well above the
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  Speaker 4: national rates when it comes to this, so really welcome
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  Speaker 4: that and well done to Kay Warden for her advocacy.
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  Speaker 4: Then we've got Matt Keo who's the Veterans Affairs Minister,
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  Speaker 4: and he'll be joining me out at bees Creek tomorrow
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  Speaker 4: afternoon at six pm for Vietnam Veterans.
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  Speaker 3: Day Memorial service.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone's welcome to come out to Bee's Creek to Reg
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  Speaker 4: Helier house.
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  Speaker 3: And I just note that.
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  Speaker 4: Bob Shering, who's done a lot of work for Vietnam veterans,
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  Speaker 4: he's launching a book about Reg Helier, who was the
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  Speaker 4: only Territory Vietnam veteran to die during the Vietnam War.
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  Speaker 4: And it's a fantastic book and a great credit to
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  Speaker 4: Bob and the work of Veterans Australia and tea out
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  Speaker 4: at bees Creek.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Luke Gosling, we appreciate your time this morning.
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  Speaker 1: We are going to have to leave it there, but
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  Speaker 1: thanks very much for coming on having a chat with us.
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  Speaker 3: We did fit a bit in.
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  Speaker 2: Katey certainly did