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Coming out of Retirement (RHOC Recap) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Hi guys, Welcome to another episode of Diamonds and the
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  Speaker 1: Rough with myself, Teddy Mellencamp.
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  Speaker 2: And Hey, I am Erica Jane.
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  Speaker 1: Erica Jane. You've had a busy weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I was with Alex Cooper call her Daddy at
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  Speaker 2: the Unwell Weekend in Las Vegas. I had the best time.
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  Speaker 2: I hosted the show second night.
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  Speaker 1: That's so great. How was it?
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  Speaker 2: It was good. She is number one, really nice and
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  Speaker 2: took the best care of me and everyone else there,
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  Speaker 2: and she's built this really impressive community. The whole thing
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  Speaker 2: was just really well done. So shout out to Alex
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  Speaker 2: Cooper everybody at the Unwell Family. Thank you for being
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  Speaker 2: so kind to me. I had the best time. It
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  Speaker 2: was really good.
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Were you there the day that DJ Meredith Mars was there?
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  Speaker 2: I saw Meredith. I think that my show was on Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: her show was on Friday.
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  Speaker 1: On Friday? Yeah, and then am I allowed to bring
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  Speaker 1: up a little nugget that you just shared with me?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you are okay, So tell me, tell me I
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  Speaker 1: just saw a little sneak. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm coming out of DJ retirement myself, so I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to start back You know what you saw, Well, you
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  Speaker 2: did Coachella, remember when I did Coachella. But I also
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  Speaker 2: did like the Mosquito Show the year before. So and
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  Speaker 2: you know my first husband was a DJ. Oh right,
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  Speaker 2: that's right. So, I mean it's been in my blood
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  Speaker 2: for a long time, and I decided, fuck it, let's
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  Speaker 2: do it, do it again, Let's do it again. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited. Yeah, I'm putting my stuff together now, brushing
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  Speaker 2: up because you know, you got to do it right.
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  Speaker 2: And there you go.
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  Speaker 1: That's so fun. When do you think it'll start soon?
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  Speaker 2: I think we may have our first gig before the
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  Speaker 2: end of the year. Really, yeah, I mean I'm still looking.
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  Speaker 2: I'm putting together possibly. I mean, there's a couple of
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  Speaker 2: different options here. There's a few different options. But of
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  Speaker 2: course i'll let you know. Yeah, yeah, of course I'll
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  Speaker 2: let you know. Come by for five ten minutes.
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  Speaker 1: We were laughing because the other day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, come by for five to ten minutes at the gig.
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  Speaker 2: You know, She's like, yeah, oh yeah, well I mean
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  Speaker 2: this you're saying that, well, come by because you know,
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  Speaker 2: who knows how long she want to stay.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I can sure stay more than
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  Speaker 1: five ten right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know it's going to be loud and
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  Speaker 2: really loud.
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  Speaker 1: So whatever, it's clubbing, you crack me up.
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  Speaker 2: I was actually really inspired because we went to the
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  Speaker 2: opening of the Marquee reopened Unwell had their after party
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  Speaker 2: at one of the after parties at Marquee, and they've
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  Speaker 2: done a beautiful reopening. Shout out to Marquee and at
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  Speaker 2: the Cosmopolitan in Las Vegas stunning. Like the club, it's
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  Speaker 2: like clubbing is back. I feel, yeah, I feel as
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  Speaker 2: if dance music is back. I mean it never really left,
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  Speaker 2: but my love for dance music has returned, and it's
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  Speaker 2: nice to get up there and have some fun.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool. I like it. I like it. I'm proud
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  Speaker 1: of you.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you babes.
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  Speaker 1: They're always like, it's really an inspiration because you're always
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  Speaker 1: working on the next thing.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's important for my brain. It's just how
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  Speaker 2: my personality works. I need to be busy. I enjoy creating,
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  Speaker 2: and this is something that I've always loved and I've
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  Speaker 2: always done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you had to pick your favorite way of performing,
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  Speaker 1: would you say it's djinghing?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's like being on Broadway or my own show,
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  Speaker 2: my own Erica Jane show, like the one in London
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  Speaker 2: for Mighty Hoopla. Yeah, I mean I love the DJ bit.
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  Speaker 2: You're playing other people's records, right, and you're hyping a
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  Speaker 2: crowd up. But when you're doing your own show, it's
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  Speaker 2: like you're doing your own show. Yeah, you know, that's
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  Speaker 2: a different that's a different relationship with an audience. Yeah
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  Speaker 2: than standing behind decks.
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  Speaker 1: And showing a different type of vulnerability.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just really like throwing your entire body and
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  Speaker 2: soul into it.
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  Speaker 1: Are you missing Broadway at all?
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  Speaker 2: A little bit? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. I had
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  Speaker 2: a conversation the other day about possibly going back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, it's a real commitment, which is great,
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  Speaker 2: but it takes a lot out of you, but it's
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  Speaker 2: so fucking worth it. Yeah, you know, it's fucking worth
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  Speaker 2: it at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the day. You have to check
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  Speaker 2: these things off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on right now,
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  Speaker 1: and then you know, we'll reconvene when we when we
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  Speaker 1: get to Bravo kan Oh god, are you going yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think two panels. I know I'm gonna need.
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  Speaker 2: You, Okay, that's fine. I'm gonna need you. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know who's open who you know? That is a to
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  Speaker 2: everybody that's listening. Bravo con is great. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: great for the audience and it's a great way for
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  Speaker 2: everyone at Bravo to to say thank you and give
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  Speaker 2: FaceTime to all of those that support everyone on Bravo.
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  Speaker 2: But it is a hard schedule for four days. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it is a very very demanding schedule. And I do
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  Speaker 2: show oh yeah. But there's something about that in person feel,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's it's it's demanding and meeting so many people,
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about, the energy of so many people.
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  Speaker 1: And being on for so long. Yes, yeah, a lot.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot, but I'm sure Bravo makes the killing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think and it is a fun way
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  Speaker 1: for all the housewives to kind of meet each other
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  Speaker 1: that haven't met before, or to see people that you've
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  Speaker 1: gotten along with and or I always enjoy that.
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  Speaker 2: I enjoyed that too, because a lot of the people
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  Speaker 2: I don't know from other shows. Yeah, and it's nice
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  Speaker 2: to connect with them and say hello. I mean, and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of us other housewives we don't know each other.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, and without this pod, I wouldn't probably watch
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  Speaker 1: all of the different franchises. But now that I know
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  Speaker 1: every single franchise, I'm like, Okay, do I walk in
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  Speaker 1: and I'm I'm high, like have yourself or am I like?
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  Speaker 1: Oh shit, this person probably hates me.
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  Speaker 2: So what that's part of the game. They know what
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  Speaker 2: the deal is. How about the Salt Lake Girls getting
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  Speaker 2: the cover of what is it us? Or something?
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  Speaker 1: I know, but it was from the Vanity Fit from
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  Speaker 1: the original Vanity Fair Desperate Housewives.
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  Speaker 2: That's fine.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's fine now for them.
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  Speaker 2: I was with Heather Gay at the Unwell weekend. We
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: had a nice moment together. She's really sweet. I've never
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  Speaker 2: really had that kind of in person FaceTime with her.
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  Speaker 2: But they're doing really well. Yeah, that show's doing really well.
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  Speaker 2: Good for them.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you you wouldn't even believe it.
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  Speaker 2: I've never watched a show, and but I know You've
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  Speaker 2: always been like a really good fan.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'm they deliver, They deliver, and then they
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  Speaker 1: move on and then something else. And I mean they.
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  Speaker 2: They could be the strongest Housewives franchise.
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  Speaker 1: They could be right now, sure, I would say, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's fair.
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  Speaker 2: To say.
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  Speaker 1: I think, you know, they put in the work, and
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  Speaker 1: also the past is right, they have is right, they
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  Speaker 1: have fun, and I think that's the part that's missing
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  Speaker 1: from so many of these franchises. Yeah, it's having fun. Yeah, Like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: these these women fight, but then they always go back
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  Speaker 1: to like laughing, partying, doing whatever. And I think that's
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  Speaker 1: where a lot of the other places they clock it
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  Speaker 1: in and they clock out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they get it wrong. Yep, I listen and I'm
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  Speaker 2: on a show. I agree, Yeah, I agree, I agree,
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  Speaker 2: all right. Raw Housewives of Orange County Season nineteen, Wow,
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  Speaker 2: Episode fifteen, Take it Away.
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  Speaker 1: So Shannon hosts a lunch for Jen. Gretchen arrives first.
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  Speaker 1: Shannon says, the girls think Gretchen acts like Tamra.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I can see that. That was actually I liked
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  Speaker 2: Shannon saying this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and if she doesn't stoop to her level, no
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  Speaker 1: one will say that. Gretchen has a list of points
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  Speaker 1: of reasons why she's not like Tamra.
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  Speaker 2: So this looks prepared, like have you yeah, she on
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  Speaker 2: this for a while, is this a yeah? Prepared?
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  Speaker 1: And then when they go to her confessional, she has
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  Speaker 1: it written out.
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  Speaker 2: And something on the bottom on her phone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she says, I don't have it. These are the
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  Speaker 1: reasons why she says she's not like Tamra. Meanwhile, doing
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  Speaker 1: this makes worse, worse, like girl, this, she says, especially
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  Speaker 1: her first one, I don't have a child, calling me
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  Speaker 1: a manipulator and a liar.
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  Speaker 2: Not yet, she's too little. Yeah, your day's coming, Your
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  Speaker 2: day's coming. It happens to all of us. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: just saying you.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't been sued and lost because of my lives.
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  Speaker 1: Then almost suit again for another lie. She's talking about
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  Speaker 1: the Jambalino and the Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: It can happen to you too. It's just not yet.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 1: I know, quit speaking in absolute right. I didn't reach
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  Speaker 1: out to Tamar's ex to try to get dirt on her.
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  Speaker 1: But you know what she's saying something that I don't
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  Speaker 1: think is necessarily true.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you mean about the recording. Yeah, yeah, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: profiting from people's pain her podcast. You are because you're
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: on the show, so you're getting paid to be on
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  Speaker 2: the show. We all profit off each other's pain. Yeah,
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: sows flash, and it's part of the gig.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not harming or constantly hurting my friends.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about that.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know. We haven't really seen you because the
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  Speaker 1: one time that you were hanging out with your friends
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  Speaker 1: is when you were talking about Tamra.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you mean it the sleepover?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't. I don't really know. And then
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  Speaker 1: other than that, I've just been seeing her yelling a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Well, she came in with something in mind, and she's
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  Speaker 2: stuck to the plan. I'm not disclosing information my friends
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  Speaker 2: asked me not to talk about like she did with
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  Speaker 2: Shannon and her dad.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that what this the whole season is about, the
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  Speaker 1: things that she's disclosed about. I mean, I hate to
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  Speaker 1: keep saying about Tamra, but that's what she's doing every
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  Speaker 1: single time.
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  Speaker 2: I wish we could talk about something else other than Tamra.
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  Speaker 2: And that's no shade, But I'm just tired of talking
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  Speaker 2: about Tamra.
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  Speaker 1: But it's it's exactly what she's doing. She's creating this,
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  Speaker 1: she's creating all the question about Tama.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, like I said this a few weeks ago,
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  Speaker 2: how cool would it have been if she'd come in
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  Speaker 2: and had no grudge and they could have gotten along? Oh,
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  Speaker 2: at least for a couple episodes and then blow out
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  Speaker 2: over something present, not seventeen years ago. Correct, nobody, I
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  Speaker 2: don't even remember seventeen hours ago.
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  Speaker 1: Her next one is, I don't have excess coming forward
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  Speaker 1: to publicly say I'm a liar and a cheater.
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: Well, honey, you ain't living well.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like that might also not fully be true. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean her ex passed away. So the one that
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: she had all of the like, oh, rumors and drama
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: with on the show.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna give him a pass because he's on Yep.
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: I don't call or DM bloggers and try to get
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  Speaker 1: them to post horrible things about my castmates. Oh uh,
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  Speaker 1: Gretcher's Gretchers, I thought you hated that. I knows you
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  Speaker 1: lose me with the first one. I think it's gross.
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  Speaker 1: The first one. I don't have a child calling me
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  Speaker 1: a manipulator and a liar.
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  Speaker 2: Not yet. I'm telling you, your daughter's young, you're going
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  Speaker 2: to hear those words. All of us parents get it.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a matter of time love. And that's no
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  Speaker 2: shade to anybody because we all get it. As you know, parenting,
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  Speaker 2: do you how do you like that? Parenting of three children?
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  Speaker 1: You know it's it's non stop. Slate was mad at
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  Speaker 1: me the other.
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  Speaker 2: Day and she called you a manipulator or a liar.
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  Speaker 1: Yet no, but she said, I you said we were
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  Speaker 1: going to have a conversation about it, and I said
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  Speaker 1: we did have a conversation. I just said no, and
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  Speaker 1: you don't like my answer, and she slammed that door
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  Speaker 1: so fast.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you broke that door down.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I open the door. I go, if
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  Speaker 1: you have an attitude about this one more time. This
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  Speaker 1: is being taken away and it's something that's important to
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: her and she was like, right, yeah, And I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we I realized that you're becoming a teenager and you're
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: about to go through the Change or whatever that movie
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  Speaker 1: the First Change. Yeah, but you're going to need to
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: cool You're yeah, because it's hard. You know, once they
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  Speaker 1: become teenagers, it's a whole different ballgame because then the
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: entire world revolves around their plans and what they want.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, what she's mad at me about is
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: I said that she could go to a Halloween party
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  Speaker 1: the night before Halloween with all her friends, but I said,
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  Speaker 1: on Halloween, you're going to spend it home. With me
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  Speaker 1: and like we we go to the same Halloween party
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  Speaker 1: every year. Yeah, and I'm like with all the kids
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  Speaker 1: everybody goes. This is what happens. You have friends there,
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: we have family there, like we have Yeah, that's what
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  Speaker 1: we're doing. And she wanted to go to the other party.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is going to become a you know, more
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  Speaker 2: increasingly thing as she grows older. But I think that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, people don't know this, but Teddy, she's a
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  Speaker 2: very calm parent and then she will click out on
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  Speaker 2: them and be really, you don't let those kids get
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  Speaker 2: away with shit. Shit. No. She' you're very nice and
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: then you're like, Okay, that's enough and you're very tough. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like you you will not act like that. I've seen
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  Speaker 2: it in person.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, ah, yeah, we won't. We won't. We
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  Speaker 1: won't be behaving this. No, you won't be talking.
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  Speaker 2: You will not be talking like that.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, AnyWho. Then Shannon asked everyone to go around
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  Speaker 1: the table and give Jen their marriage advice.
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  Speaker 2: Which I thought was kind of fun.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what do you feel about the way Shannon
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: was at the beginning when she was kind of flipping
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  Speaker 1: out about the stemware.
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  Speaker 2: Listen and I'd rather see somebody flip out about stemware
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  Speaker 2: than drag each other through the mud about other shit.
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  Speaker 2: Like flipping out about stemware is a housewives thing that
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  Speaker 2: I welcome as opposed to hurting each other's feelings so deeply.
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  Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, you're right. You're right on that.
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  Speaker 2: Remember, like in the Derete Champagne thing, Like, I'd rather
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  Speaker 2: do that than all the other stuff that we've seen.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, you know, I'd rather like silly fights than
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  Speaker 2: really digging deep, in digging deep and just kind of hurting. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because she's you know, she's pretty worked up about it.
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  Speaker 2: She seems very excited about the party. Jen didn't seem
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  Speaker 2: that excited. And I don't know if that was being
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  Speaker 2: ungrateful or just not into it or both, or.
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  Speaker 1: Just or just doesn't have a date yet, and so
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  Speaker 1: she feels like it's strange to have a.
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  Speaker 2: Would I say, though, if somebody's going to throw you
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  Speaker 2: a party, just say thanks and have a good time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, say thanks, have a good time. Clearly they spend
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  Speaker 1: a lot of money on it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, say thank you. I wouldn't. Yeah, just be gracious.
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  Speaker 1: All the time, because she knows and I remember when
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  Speaker 1: she served one croissant at the beach party. These parties
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  Speaker 1: are expensive, yes they are, and production is not paying
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  Speaker 1: for it.
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  Speaker 2: No. No, And I saw something on TikTok on it.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I shouldn't even bring this up, but I see
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: like these people that say that they are quote ex
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: showrunners and they are talking about behind the scenes things
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: about what Bravo pays for and shit like that. That's
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  Speaker 2: not true.
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  Speaker 1: It's not true. They'n's not true. There may be a
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  Speaker 1: certain amount that they.
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  Speaker 2: Any lot girl and it ain't shit. Yeah, it's so
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  Speaker 2: get it together. Yeah, so you ain't nobody paying for
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  Speaker 2: that white party.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, then I.
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  Speaker 2: Are not writing those checks.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, Nope, they are not doing that. But when Shannon
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: asked everyone to go around the table, Tamra says, your
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: second marriage, you know what to do, you know what
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  Speaker 1: not to do.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, I agree. I mean, I think if you
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  Speaker 2: know your second marriage is something that you know thinking
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  Speaker 2: about the first self reflection, Hey maybe I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to do whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Again, right, but then you can make new mistakes beyond.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're always going to make mistakes. I think that
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: marriage or humans or any type of relationship, you're always
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: going to make mistakes. It's just hey, I'm not going
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: to do that one again. Right, You're gonna have your
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: own unique set of problems with this marriage.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Shannon says, communication is key, obviously. Yeah, I didn't need
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: to know that John Janssen farted under the covers.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: I don't need I don't. I don't like that.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Shit.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Do you fart in front of Edwin?
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, now, well.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I bet you. I bet you'd have a blowout in
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: front of him, just just just because how about this?
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about that?
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Sorry?
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: I hate to be such a teenager, but.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I would say there are probably times
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: in the sixteen years one way I've slipped out.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but not on purpose.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Not on purpose.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, That's why I like having two bathrooms. Yeah,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: two separate bathrooms. I go over here, you go over there.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: You know, if accidents happen, that's one thing, But not
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: on purpose.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But then, as Shannon's talking about communication is key,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: somebody asked her, I forget, who are you talking about
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: with John? Are you talking about with your with David?
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I think she said both, right, and then she said
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: both both?
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, both. So she considers her relationship with John
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: like a marriage.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, let's not go that far. It was
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: an important relationship. I don't know if it was a
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: quote marriage, but it definitely was enough to get upset
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: about and have all these problems with. So why not
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: you know that legal problem, That's what I'm saying. That's
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: a fucking marriage without having being married. So true, you know,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: it's as the same as a pain in the ass
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: as a marriage.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Yep. Gina tells her not to lose herself and have
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: your person be a compliment to your life. I think
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: that's a really good piece of advice.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Very good. And Emily says everyone has a person, and
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I agree with that.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, but you could have more more than one person,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: more than one.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Person in a lifetime.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I think so too. Ye. Then Gretchen says faith is
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: an important part in her relationship.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to attack anyone's faith.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I I if that is true, I mean that is
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: true for her, That's great, I mean whatever.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And then Heather says people will judge or make
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: comments about you.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Let them you have to. Yeah, she's there are all
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: these are like whose advice would you take most seriously?
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: They're all good things here. I mean, you know, nobody's
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: giving stupid advice.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Whose advice would you take the most seriously?
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Not to lose yourself? Yeah, I think should the person
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: be a compliment to your life. I think that a
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: lot of women do that, and we do it just naturally,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: were naturally built to, you know, take care of the
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: family and take care of the husband and kind of
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: put our needs or our lives second. And I think
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: that that's a super important one.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Just.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: To remind everybody out there too, you know, make sure
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: that you're you're taking care of too.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Then we're back to the farts because then Emily
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: asks whether she farts in front of Terry. She says
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: she doesn't fart.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Well, what, Yeah, And I'm down with that answer.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: You know what, it doesn't happen.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: That's great.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: The fact that Shannon is still finding ways to bring
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: up John Jansen, though, do you find that odd or no?
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I think it's just conversation. I didn't have that much
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: value into It's her last relationship of consequence, so whatever.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I don't really you know, it's not that big video.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of, but it makes me a little
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: bit sad.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: I didn't even take it as that. I just thought
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: it as like she was just laughing, and she was
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: just laughing about things that were, you know, in the past.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't lean that much into it.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Yep. Then the girls are going on a trip to Amsterdam.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Heather's parents lived there when she was in college. Kind
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: of cool.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was kind of a cool thing.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Heather brings up her dad's ashes and doesn't know where
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: to put them, Okay, so and then you know, Terry
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: thinks about bringing it to Amsterdam where he lived. Here's
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: the thing. I was immediately taken back to mercy in
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: the purse. So I'm just going to say. I was like,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: are we going to get into these ashes? And then
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Heather opens up about her dad and how he was
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: a corporate dad and they didn't have much of a relationship,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: which you know.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: It's pretty common.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: It's common, and it's sad. Yeah, you know, corporate dad.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I never heard that phrase.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: No, but it's a good one.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know if she made it up or not,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: but it's a good one.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: They're all sitting around, you know, at this Bridle not
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Bridle shower and they're like, we should go on a
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: trip and they're like someone warm somewhere, Warm somewhere this,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: and then someone's like Amsterdam.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Magically, they're in Amsterdam. I'm not going to say a
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: word on this. I'm contractually bound, not.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Too so, but it magic Whose trip is this?
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: By the way, it felt Honestly, it kind of felt
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: like Shannon's and then it kind of felt like Heather
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: had a piece of it, like I you know, I
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: used to go there in college, so you know, I
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: mean that's all I can say.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Then Tam and Eddie go to dinner. Tamar gets annoyed
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: with how Eddie is chewing Oh. Marriage, Yeah, that's marriage.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: That's marriage.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Yep. Tamer says she thinks the problem in their marriage
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: is that they don't communicate and then it all explodes.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Eddie says the way she talks to him sets him. Often,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: usually she's drunk and she comes at him. Yeah, I
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: mean I get it. He's valid, he has his point
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: of view.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I think he's saying, you know, I haven't.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Seen him show remarkable control, more so than any man
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I've been married to would have. So Eddie, Yeah, I
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: mean I think that you've handled yourself in some situations.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I know mister Girardi would have fucking leveled me at home.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you that.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Well. She asked if she if he thinks she has
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: a drinking problem, and Eddie says, for their relationship purposes,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: she shouldn't drink and just come to him.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I agree. Yeah, nothing good is with alcohol. I mean,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I just it just doesn't Liquor and personal relationships like
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: that home just it's not good. It does not work
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: out well for anybody. And I'm not just saying you
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: so don't get offended. I just say as a full
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: on blanket statement, it's not.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Good when we're unhappy and we're drinking.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: It's bad.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: It's bad. It's bad for everybody. It's bad what you know, like.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: And it just there's a limit to drinking, like there's
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: a limit to everything, Like one drink, two drinks, cute, three,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I start to become an asshole. Yeah, and I cannot
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: do that anymore, I.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Know, and then I feel like death the next day.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just is anybody really drinking?
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I enjoy like one or two drinks.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's my max. I had two drinks over the
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: weekend and that was it because I just don't I
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: want to do other things. Yeah, you know, I don't
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: want to wake up in the morning and feel like
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I feel terrible.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: It's just like, oh yeah, but I think that this
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: conversation is a lot of couples. I think you know
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: that you many couples. Yeah, when you.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: When alcohol gets involved, it's never It can start out
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: fun and it usually ends up in a in like
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: a bit bickering or even sometimes a snarl like I
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I just don't like myself on liquor like this in
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: a relationship.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Then they all go to Amsterdam.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Amazing, like all of a sudden, we arrived in Amsterdam.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: How did this happen? The magic of TV.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: There's no mention of no Katie really erased.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I told you you erased from the record, just like.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Whoo yeah, no mention of no Katie. They arrive in
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Amsterdam and they go on a boat in the canal.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Typical the outfits.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so what they were dressed like and I'm down
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: for it, But it was like the day were they
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: going from day to night?
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think they all wore the same thing
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: to dinner.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it like Emily with the cutouts during the
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: day bold yeah, somebody with the lace body suit with
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: the thong bold. I mean, I'm giving it to you guys.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Like I was like, wow, could we Wow? Somebody said
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: you better. We got one outfit for the entire thing.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: And they said, let me put on my nightwear.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they said let me put on my nightwhere And
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: somebody even said I forget, which maybe it was doing
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: like I think they think we're street walkers.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Good good, I mean, I love it.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Then Emily asks Shannon if she thinks Tamar was being
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: shady when she brought up her dad's drinking, and Shannon
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: thought it was a dig and she's not able to
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: forgive her.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I think it is a dig. I think it's better
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: to get over it, you know. And I know that
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I said in a pod before, like you can see
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: you know I can say I you know things about
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: my dad, but you can't. So, but I think you
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: can get over it. I think there's you know.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Tamra says she can't apologize, but Shannon can't. Shannon brings
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: up being called a seaword multiple times at the dinner table,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: and Tamra says, are you a sea word? How would
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: you have responded to Tamer's question.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: No, tam I'm not. I'm right. So there you go.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know I would have just said we
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: all are and moved on.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: And you know, it's interesting how that word is. So
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: what is the word I'm looking for? It's like such
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: a big deal here in the States, but like if
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: you go to the UK, everybody's calling each other.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but whatever, I mean, they are in Amsterdam.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Close enough for me. But then again, you know.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Emily, Tamra and Jen go to a store to decorate
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: a penis interesting. Yeah, Emily asked Jen about her vagina.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Jin says it's healed up nicely and now it's fine
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: and she's good to go.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Great, I mean I think that's wonderful. She had
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: her pelvic floor fixed.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Her pelvic floor fix, and then she said she had
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: some things cut off the front. She had all the things,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: all the things, and now she's good to go back
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: to having good sex.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: That's great. We love a rejuvenated queen. Get that badge rolling, Well,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: you're about to get married. I mean you're gonna be
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: using it more than you probably.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Want, more than you are now, more than you.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Are now, because it's about keeping it together.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Then Heather brings up boundaries and how Jen is still
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: close with Alexis. Okay, so this just to give you
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: a little backstory. Heather bringing up how Jin is still
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: close with Alexis is a little bit of a thing
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: right now, because apparently Alexis also invited Heather to her wedding.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Heather declined to go.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: But Heather's original response on why she declined was it's
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: my daughter's thing, it's my daughter has something at school.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: But then when she went on watched What Happens Live,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: she said she added something else. Oh shit, Yeah, she
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: said I had my daughter's thing and I'm not really
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: that close with them as a couple.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, Well, and so it's putting herself at distance
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: with Alexis.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, And then Jen says she got to save the
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: date but has not been invited.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: What does that mean if you got to save the
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: date but then didn't get invited.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Well, I know what that means, because I just had
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Alexis on the pod. So Alexis ended up disinviting Jin
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: because or not actually sending her an invite because she
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: started pulling away from her.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, look these things happen. I mean, it's not y'all,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: what did you expect? I mean really?
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah? But Jen, we literally see you tell Shannon you
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: will not go to the wedding because of her. Yeah.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to make promises like that. Yeah, you
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: should go not go to the wedding because of you,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: not because of someone else.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So now are we It's just back to the
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: wishy washiness. Yeah, we're just back to wishy washy. Then
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Emily feels Jin wasn't into her bridal lunch. Jen says,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: it's not her thing.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: But it's you pretend like it's your thing because someone
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: is going above and beyond for you pretend, you know,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: if it's not your thing, you keep that to yourself.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying on camera, yeah you know, like
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: it's not gonna it's not gonna. You know, you do
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: realize that by you saying that it's going to become
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: a thing, right, Like you do realize that.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Well, then Tamar thinks Shannon through the bridal shower for
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: herself to get back at Tamra by being close with Jen.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's for the show. It's not that deep.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: You think it's not that deep?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: It's not that deep.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Then, Gretchen tells the girls that with Tamra, fighting fire
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: with fire is the best way to handle it. She
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: thinks Tamara only responds to strength.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: She could be right. You know, what do you think?
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, tamor will.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think fighting fire with fire is the best
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: route with Tamra because I think she's going to keep going.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, she doesn't.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: She'll just keep going, She'll keep going. I think the
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: best way for me, at least. We've only had one
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: argument that was like contentious, contentious, and I just kind
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: of had to like, even though I wanted to fix.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: It right away, Yeah, I had to let it stay.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I had to let it sit there for a minute.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: And then she got over it and I apologized, and
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: she apologized and then it was done. But it was like,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: give her a second of space to let her kind
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: of process and not be reactive. Yeah, because that's the thing.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: If you're reactive and then you're fighting somebody with fire.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, I could see where that would escalate the sitution.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I would escalate. And then they go out to dinner
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and Shannon ate a space cake and was high.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: But we could get high here in California, Like, is
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: the weed that much better in Amsterdam?
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Do you think Shannon was playing up that she is
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: more high than she actually was, Like when she was
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: like getting down under the table to try to find
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: her barette and all those kind of things.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Well, we have seen her bring pots and pans to stuff, but.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: She did cook. We found out she did cook.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, here's the thing. I don't eat weed for this
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: reason because I don't know how it's going to hit me.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: So I can't really say I don't know. I don't know.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how much. What is the
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: space cake anyway? So gummy?
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: No? So apparently they had either I think they said
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: cookies or cupcakes.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: But what's in it? Just cannabis or is it hash
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: or what?
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: What?
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: What is a space cake?
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to go to space.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Something something that makes you spacey, maybe more spacey, more spacey.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: But then Tamra goes under the table to get Shannon's
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: hair clip. They're all getting along and they make it
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: out of it and it makes it look like make
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: it out of Amsterdam alive.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that getting high is if you're yeah,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm agreeable when I'm not drinking. Yeah,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: but what do you mean not making out of it
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: out of Amsterdam alive? Is it all going to blow apart?
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: And I wonder what I wonder what will be the
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: catalyst for it to all blow apart?
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: My guess is it's all going to blow apart. I
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: would guess that things are not going to stay so copathetic.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: It's a cast trip, cast trips, I tell you.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think we have a lot to come
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: when it comes to this group of ladies in Amsterdam.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Are you enjoying? Did you enjoy this episode? I think
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: it's a great setup for what may be coming.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I think it's a good setup for what's maybe coming.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I think it was a little bit of a filler episode.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Well you have to have those, yeah, especially you have
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: to have the builds, you know, you can't always have.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think we're not so it's so focused
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: on Tamera and Gretchen.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little over it.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I'm a little over that. Like I want more.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Of other cast members.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want more things.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I think you want to see more. I think if
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I were to guess, and you can tell me if
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I'm totally wrong. I think that you, maybe, knowing your personality,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: would like to see Jen called out in her behavior
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: a little more.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought so I would. Yeah, I think that.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: You think she's wishy washy. I know where you're going.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: I think she's wishy washy and it bugs me. And
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: then it also, you can't always be on. You can't
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: always play the middle.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Yep. You have to take a position.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: You have to take a position. And if you're always
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: going to play the middle, then I think it starts,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: it starts weighing on you. Well maybe, but maybe she's
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: not going to because I think Gen's first.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Well what happened between Well, how do you get first seat?
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Be in the middle?
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I know That's what I mean. So we who knows what's.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Not that you compete for first seat because it means
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: you had a fucking shitty time as somebody who had
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: the first seat. Let me let me tell you that
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: was like awful.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mean we don't of course we don't
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: necessarily know what a first seat means, but a first.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Seat usually means you get mixed up in it. Yeah,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: you've got a lot of explaining to do.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: And so far, she hasn't no so far.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: If I were to look at that, I would say,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: so what, yeah, well Tamor is probably Tamar has the
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: other first seat on the other side, yes, well duh,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: yeah seat.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: So one side is Tamara, Gina head there, Katie okay,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: and then the other side is Jen, Emily, Shannon, and Gretchen. Yeah.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I know it's it's a weird lineup, which leads me
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: to believe they they are going to be changing for us.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess are they going to get mad? Like
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: what's happening here? Does somebody have a complete breakdown?
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you think that because Gretchen's been
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: involved in a lot of the drama, she should have
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: been more forward even though she's just a friend of.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: No, I think that's where they put the friends. Yeah,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: just even though she worked a lot. I think that's
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: just kind of how it goes. I mean, do you
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: think she's speculating like on a ten years I don't know.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: By the way, nobody else does either, So don't don't
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: get cute.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: We have zero idea.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you just kind of show up and here's
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: your spot and you.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Go Really, but would you say Gretchen is willing a lot,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: or would you say this is who Gretchen is.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Ah? Both. I think that Gretchen is working a lot.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: I think Gretchen has worked really hard as a friend
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: and and came in with a clear agenda. I mean
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: these notes as to how she's different, and then the
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: referring back to the twenty seventeen like you know, they
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: talk about doing your homework. She came in prepared, which
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: is annoying.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Which is annoying.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: And I've consistently said that I would have liked it
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: had Gretchen stayed in the present moment.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Because I would say, this makes it like I don't
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: even know Gretchen.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Like, well, I don't know the present day Gretchen. Yeah,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: like I know the Gretchen that's like beefing out over
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: fifteen years ago of beef.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean, Like we haven't gotten to
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: know her what she's like.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: But she's right right now, what she's up to right.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Now, because that everything has been.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: About the past, and I just think that that's a
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: real wasted opportunity, especially if she wanted to go forward
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: on the show. You know, it's okay to have like
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: you know, you need both you need, Hey, this is
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: who I am. Hey, this is my past, but this
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: is how I see myself going forward. Just to constantly
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: point backwards is a one trick pony in my opinion.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: And it gets old.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: It gets old. And if you want to stay on
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: and you you have to grow and evolve. Yeah, and
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: even if that means you're not you know, in the
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: forefront all the time at least shows some growth or
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: some some ways forward, which I think was a real
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: missed opportunity on Gretch's part.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Do you think Gretchen is doing it on her own
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: or because she's been coached by slave?
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Oh? No, this is a two person situation, and I
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: think it's an old I think as the Housewives evolved,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: just like however many seasons it's been on, it feels
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: very old school Housewives playbook. You can point towards the past,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: but it can't be your whole thing. You can say, hey,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I feel this way because of X, Y and Z
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: in the past. However I'm putting my best foot forward
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: or whatever. I think that the key to remaining interesting
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: and is evolving, even if your softer side or more
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: vulnerable side, you don't always have to be on it. Yeah,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: on it one hundred percent of the time. But then
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: but it's also only you didn't do anything. Well, yeah
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I did. I was growing, Yeah I did. I was
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: letting things go. Yeah I did. I was looking at
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: things differently. But then again, you can just always played
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: at the cheap seats, which a lot of people do.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: And I have a list. I got a list, and
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: I'm fucking good at this list.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: It's listed out.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: I will never I know, but you and I probably
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: share a lot of the same.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've probably shared the lot of the same. Yeah,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: it's just enter dialogue. Yeah. Thanks guys for tuning in
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: to another episode of Diamonds in the Rough. We are back.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Do we have two or three more episodes left?
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We have two, I think, and then
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: we have.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Reunion Union, which I would guess it's a three partner.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, I'm excited listen. Once again,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: I've enjoyed doing this show with you. I'm excited to
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: see the next episode and the one after that, so
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see what happens, all right, guys, thank
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: you so much for tuning in, and like I don't know,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: it's good to see you Ted, good to see you too,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Bye bye.