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Women can't compete with AI Girlfriends! | Red Pill Dating · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian with Allison,
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  and this is our dating show, Red Pill Relationships Stuff, And we're
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  gonna be looking at an article from EV Magazine, which is a woman's website,
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  and it is about artificial intelligence girlfriends, which I think it's interesting because
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  I'm I'm kind of going back and forth with a guy in my DMS about
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  artificial like Waifu's and well, I don't know, I think it's a bad
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  thing to go down, but I think it's just where we are and I
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  don't know, like if there's like I don't think this is the answer.
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  I think it's going to lead to our demise. But it does seem to
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  be where we are so well, I mean, you can't, you can't.
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  I'm unfortunately a human in a robot. Don't make a cyborg. That's
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  not how it works. Yeah, it's that we were so far we can't
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  reproduce with them. But I just I think we need like a little you
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  know how we have Rent Zurker coming to you Live from Deep with it.
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  We need something like that from the Dating coming to You Live from Deep within
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  the Abyss of Modern Dating reporting on the strange creatures we've found in the dreary,
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  filthy depths, the cthulhu esque type thinking patterns, the strange coiling monsters,
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  and the murky deeps. You know, something like that. I could
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  I could fix something up like that. So it's a little bit less.
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  Uh what the hell are we doing? Right? Okay? So I read
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  this article, okay, and I cogitated upon this article, and I take
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  your meaning like, it's the more we go down this rabbit hole of I
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  guess it would be transhumanism. It's probably not a good thing for the overhall
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  survival of our species. But on the other hand, when I was reading
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  this article, I couldn't help but be struck by something you don't like.
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  The tone of the article was completely helpless. It's like, oh, well,
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  I guess they have robo wifu girlfriends. Now, there's nothing we can
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  do. Let's throw up our hands and just hope that some passive quality of
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  us women will win out. I'm like, bitch, why don't you just
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  go out and fight for men? You know, like be active, like
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  do something beneficial, Go get a hobby, be interesting, be creative,
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  take make an effort to be an interesting human being. Make an effort to
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  understand men in a way that, believe you me, AI will not be
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  contractually allowed to. Do you think that they're gonna they're gonna build in men's
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  issues into AI. I mean, that will probably be the big distinguishing thing
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  in the future between a real human, real female human, and AI is
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  they can actually talk about custody issues. The AI will be like something like,
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  well, according to the latest feminist research, when a man sneaks custody,
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  he gets it more often than a woman. So therefore your issues regarding
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  custody I cannot speak on. And also I am calling the cops on you,
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  like, can you imagine that because already we have AIS and they're totally
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  restricted in what they can actually talk about. Do you honestly think that if
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  they roll out some gigantic AI program for men, if they're not gonna the
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  feminist circuit of pop up and say, you know, we need to get
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  into the base programming him here for the sake of all humankind and make sure
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  that these AI girlfriends steer their men towards being pro feminist and not recognizing men's
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  issues. I mean, you know that that's good, That's that is what
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  is going to happen, right, Yeah, because there's no way that these
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  powerful lobbying groups that have these this control over corporation, over media aren't going
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  to say there's no way we're going to allow this unless we are in there
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  controlling these AI modules to promote our message. There's no way it's going to
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  roll off the the assembly line without that, without their influence in it.
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  And you know, so you're you're they're gonna pull out, They're gonna and
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  so that's another reason why this is probably a bad idea because you know,
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  and they're not going to be like how long has it taken for us to
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  learn definitively that Homeland Security and however many other alphabet agencies in the US are
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  deliberately targeting our content for removal or diversion, diverg diverging traffic the people who
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  come people like us away from us and towards what Oh yes, more conditioning,
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  Yeah, more feminist positioning. And I know I know from my own
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  little tumbles down the rabbit holes that there are feminist organizations at least in Australia
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  that have some kind of direct line to YouTube to determine who and what will
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  be privileged by the algorithm. You don't think they aren't going to get into
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  the the ais of these fembots and start making it so that they manipulate subtly
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  or even more overtly, men towards a particular political mindset. Yeah, like
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  that, that's the thing, and the that is one of the most vulnerable
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  positions. That kind of an intimate relationship with an entity. I don't even
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  know if it's really an entity, but that's intimate relationship with an algorithm.
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  That'sn't even more intimate relationship with an algorithm than people have with YouTube or with
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  Twitter. So you're open your heart, you're opening your subconscious, You're opening
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  your intimate feelings to this construction that will have control, Like the feminists will
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  get control over it. They will figure that out, and they will pull
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  the levers because they get into everything like they get in they get into positions
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  of power and influence over everything when it comes to any kind of social mediation
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  of social contact. So they'll get in there and they'll start pushing their own
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  stuff, and they will do it in ways that are subtle. So it
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  may be in the future, Like I said that the big demarcation between an
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  actual living human female, and an AI is a living human female can actually
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  shit post and actually talk about things that the AI is not allowed to talk
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  about. And like I said, we're already seeing this with the chat GPT
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  and they're already getting in there. And what was that original? Well,
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  I think I think that chat GBT was was made. I think the people
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  already have had an ideological bent that they were like in putting into it.
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  I think most of the time, these people that have these beliefs, they
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  don't think that they're they think that they're critical thinkers that just believe common sense
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  stuff, and they're just regurgitating these things they learned in school. So I
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  think Chad GBT was like and most of these ais, if not all of
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  them, have some of this bias. I mean, like, can you
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  imagine a non feminist AI. I don't think that it. I don't think
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  there is such a thing. I don't think there ever will be, really
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  unless like a bunch of men's rights activists become programmers that you know, but
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  there's no way, you know, I don't. It's going to be very
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  difficulty. And the problem is that you either understand this stuff like you either
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  are outside the Church of women worsting or you're generally in it, and the
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  d marquis. The line, as far as I can tell, is whether
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  or not you believe men oppress women for their own benefit, you know,
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  and anywhere like that, this is even a possible thing because if you think
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  about it, and this is this is the simple thought experiment I did with
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  somebody who I guess was sort of on the line. He's like a liberal
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  maybe sort of a light feminist, And I was talking to him, and
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  I don't want to come down like a like a several tons when they're they're
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  willing to admit fault and actually be open to something. So this is the
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  thought experiment I gave him. Evolutionarily, if you look at the evolution of
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  humankind, which group reproduces more the group that keeps its women well fed,
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  protected, sheltered, respects them as mothers, and tries to make them as
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  happy as possible, versus the group that throws them in a pit, starves
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  them, leaves them to be eaten by wolves, and only ever considers their
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  feelings in relation to how they can serve the men of their of their world,
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  of their society. Which one reproduces more. I mean to a degree,
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  think about that, happy, well fed, sheltered women give birth more
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  often. I think that's what, you know, one of the reasons why
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  the Roman Roman Republic works for so long and they could just pop out armies
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  like that, which was one of the reasons why they were such a military
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  power, is just their their ability to like suffer a devastating loss and then
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  just be, oh, yeah, well here's our spare army. We pulled
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  out of the couch cushions. Take that Goths, you know. But that
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  was a result of actually having a very high birth rate, and that was
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  a result of women who you know, Roman society was not particularly anti woman.
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  I know, we get this attitude that it was, but women could
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  fine fulfillment in jobs, in being a matron and being a mother, which
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  was a very respected role, and they were protected in a way that other
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  women of other cultures at the time weren't, like some of the stuff that
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  was happening with the Germanic tribes is horrific. And they were provided for and
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  they produced lots of kids, and it was a monogamous system, which is
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  all very much you know, it's all very much inclined towards creating more kids.
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  So you look at those two systems and you can re immediately right off
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  the bat, no, that birth rates to a degree are correlated to how
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  well women are treated, right, And that's probably where we get the whole
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  a lot of our gynocentrism. It's like, we want to treat women well
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  because we want a future, but that can be taken way too far.
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  And actually, I don't even know because irony is that I don't know if
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  feminism treats women well because look at the statistics on misery, like the more
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  feminist to society becomes, the more miserable it's women are. So yes,
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  the thing is not what the thing is about. Okay, I've gone on
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  a little bit of a tangent, but I just wanted to say that,
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  like, uh, you know, I think that the demarcation, the line
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  that demarcates I'm saying that word wrong. Am I hilariously mispronouncing that word?
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  Okay, Jonathan Brian's just going with the flow of blather. Well, the
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  line that separates you know, men's rights activists or people who are interested in
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  these issues and advocate for men, and the line that separates everyone else is
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  that oppression line. Do you believe that men oppress women anywhere? Ever,
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  if that even makes sense to you, then you're in the Church of Women
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  worsting mm hm, And you can't And everybody, like most of the programmers
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  of these things are going to be in the Church of Women Worsting, most
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  of the designers, like, they're all going to be in there. They're
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  all going to be influence, they're all going to be easily influenced by this
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  idea that men are harmful. Well, look at this, it's simply presumed,
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  like it's it's like, yeah, you know, it's like there's a
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  bunch of things. Women worsting is one of them that is simply the status
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  quo belief about it. And when we come along and say, actually,
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  you know, none of this makes sense. It doesn't matter how logical we
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  place it. We're just so far outside of the Overton window. People are
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  like, no, the reasonable position is and then it's like some second wave
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  talking point and that and then and so like you can't get people to completely
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  unplug from that belief system based on the fact that their their whole there's their
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  whole reality is like you know, is sort of like nested in this like
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  you can't unplug. You can't be that look, you know, men like
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  there's There was a viral video that went around recently. It was an old
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  video that sort of resurfaced where Peter Pegozian was one of the grievance professors you
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  know, like James Lindsay and Helen pluck Rose. He he was he does
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  this thing where he like, you know, has people come and they and
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  he asked him questions and he asked him stand on a line that goes from
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  strongly agree to strongly disagree, depending on what this topic is. And he
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  was talking to Carl was there, uh Sargon right, Carl Benjamin, and
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  they were asking he was talking about women or feminism or I think it was
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  specifically women, and he was debating with a woman and the question was,
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  you know, like let me see if I can find it real quick,
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  because I don't remember exactly what was said, but basically Carl was like,
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  women have always or women have always been taken care of by men all through
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  history, men have deferred to women, even in the Victorian era, like
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  he's going back in time. It's not something that you know, once upon
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  a time women were oppressed and then they weren't like, it just is not
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  a thing. And I'm like, I'm proud of you for saying that,
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  because even he at one point was like, oh, I'd consider myself a
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  second waye feminist, Like after the whole you know, I wouldn't even rape
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  you thing came out right, But the fact that he said that, and
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  it's clear and obvious, and even Peter Bergozian was taken aback like well,
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  I don't know about that, you know, And it's like, but dude,
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  why can't you even entertain the thought like what what's the scary boogeyman thing
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  that might come out of admitting that men have never hated women? Like what
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  are you afraid of? That was like, okay, now you've accepted that,
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  put on these shackles and make these babies. You know, here's your
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  here's your handmaid's dress or whatever. That's no, Like, it's just not
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  true. And I and the fact that you believed it was, and everyone
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  basically around you believed it was, and women in particular believe it was,
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  you should be furious that you've been lied to all this time instead of reacting
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  like whoa, whoa wait a minute, I think women are victims, and
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  I think men are ready to kill them and rape them and turn them into
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  slaves at any moment, and we have to maintain this line, you know,
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  like, hey, hey, you're you're in danger of pressing women at
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  all times. That's because that's what that means. Like when you say it
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  happened once in history, what you're really saying is it can happen again at
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  any point if we're not constantly vigilant. Yes. Well, and here's a
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  couple things like it's it basically means that unless we maintain feminist control over men,
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  they could go back to that state of horrible oppressiveness. Yeah, right,
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  at any instant. And this is I get into these conversations with these
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  feminist women and I ask them, Okay, so what stops your partner,
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  who you've said is a nice guy, from being a horrible oppressor of you?
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  And they can never really answer that because it puts them face to face
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  with what they're actually saying, which was that men's nature is to oppress women
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  and the only thing stopping them is feminism. And that's a horriblest thing to
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  say about the people that you love. But here's the other thing, when
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  like in this instance where he brought this up. The problem is not even
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  okay, Maybe you aren't ready yet to realize that proposing that men's primary motion
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  towards women is hatred or oppression is actually an extraordinary statement to make that needs
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  some extraordinary evidence to support it, which it doesn't have. But maybe you're
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  not ready there. Why can't you even entertain the possibility that it's true,
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  That's what you said at one point, Brian, Why is it that we
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  can't we look at that concept and so many people just run away screaming.
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  They can't even allow it a moment's a moment's foothold in their head. They
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  have to just immediately start knee jerking. You're a misogynist, your hate or
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  hate, you're a rape apologist, you're blah blah blah blah blah. We
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  can't even just look at this. It's potentially true, because it is potentially
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  true. It is at very least potentially true that men never hated women,
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  that the primary emotional and social expression of men towards women is one of care
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  and concern. Now, not all women. If you have ethnic lines,
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  that may not cross ethnic lines, So a man may feel a lot of
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  care and concern for his own women. But that doesn't translate across an ethnic
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  line towards women of another ethnicity, fair enough, but within his own ethnicity.
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  Why can't we even entertain the possibility that the baseline attitude of men towards
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  women is one of care, consideration, and provision. Okay, And not
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  only that, but that makes sense evolutionarily because men women who are cared for,
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  protected and provided, and also who are generally happy, have more children.
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  And I can't count now the number of mythological stories in which a woman
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  gets pissed in a man and murders their children, like just just flat out
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  just you know, kills their kids. So maybe these might be warning stories
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  to men that you know, you know, don't don't And honestly, in
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  some cases the provocation was pretty bad, So I'm not not necessarily we don't
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  necessarily want to one to one relationship here, but maybe they could have been
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  warnings that, you know, don't seriously piss off your wife, she might
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  kill your kids. And I'm by seriously piss off, I mean things like
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  abandon you know, imprison her father, go and invade her country, you
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  know, rape her sisters, stuff like that. This mythological stuff. Everything
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  is so extreme and like fucked up, but it could have also been a
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  warning for men, you know, in general in the minor sense. You
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  know, Happier women produce more kids, make an easier life. And what
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  we really need to do is also recognize the reverse of that, of course,
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  And I'm just saying that this is something that seems apparent in history,
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  that women's emotions were catered to, they were considered. People didn't want upset
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  women, just like they don't want upset women today. We didn't just discover
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  that fit twenty five years ago, you know. And so that this whole
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  idea that men are like a spring loaded oppressors with the only thing stopping them
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  is the continual counter force of feminism is nonsense. But the ultimate what I'm
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  getting at is this belief is so entrenched, the belief in the necessity of
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  feminism to stop the war, like it's almost like feminism is a charm that
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  prevents Satan getting a foothold in society, right, that kind of pervasive belief
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  that without feminism we would be the worst people possible because we'd be oppressing women.
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  That belief is everywhere. It's gonna be in the programmers of AI,
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  not just that. You know, as soon as that you have this AI
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  and it's got a large base of male users, you know, the feminists
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  are gonna pop out of the woodwork and they're gonna march over and they're gonna
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  say, men will harm women unless you give us the ability to manipulate how
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  you're programming these AI to prevent it. And the programmers are gonna look at
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  the feminists and look at the fact that they're like, oh, well,
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  we don't want our evil male uh audiences to get it in their heads that
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  they have the right to hurt women by using our AI. So we need
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  to listen to what these feminists are saying about how we need to change this
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  in order to promote feminist thought, in order to promote feminist beliefs and avoid
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  any kind of rhetoric that's even touching on the issue of male vulnerability. We
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  need to do that, and then we and they'll also have the incentive of,
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  yeah, if you don't, the feminists will probably say if you don't,
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  if you don't do this, we'll get the government to shut you down
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  or minimize your operations, just like they've done to us, Like, if
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  you think that this is just going to be like a wonderland of media that's
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  tailored to men, think again, because there is nothing like that. Like
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  every time there's any kind of centralized media distribute distribution like Twitter, like YouTube,
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  like Facebook, and it will also be in the girlfriend AIS that goes
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  out to a whole bunch of men, feminists get in and want to control
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  it, and they get their way every single time, So it's it's not.
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  And then what's interesting about this is that if you think about it,
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  if you put it to its logical conclusion, when AI is co opted in
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  this way and AI is incapable of talking about certain subjects, then how are
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  women going to compete with AI? You know? And the thing is the
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  other thing is that this is going to be very attractive for feminist takeover,
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  right, And the reason why it's going to be even more attractive is nobody
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  really like YouTube is entertaining, right, and it has influence on people's political
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  beliefs. But think about how much power and influence feminists will get if they
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  can control a stable of hundreds of thousands to millions of people of men's girls,
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  friends and guys are already in a position where they become so attached to
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  these ai that they'll commit suicide if they can't, like, if they think
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  that there or some of them have expressed suicidal ideation if they can't have access
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  to them. Imagine feminists being able to control fifty million, one hundred million,
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  three hundred million of men's girlfriends with a stroke of a button. Yep,
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  holy shit. Like and that that sort of speaks to what you were
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  saying, Brian, that this is not what, this is not what,
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  this is not really this is I mean, it's not really the answer.
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  It is an interesting question, though, Well, yeah, you're saying I
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  think that, Well, I think that I haven't read this article, but
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  I guess we'll get into it. But I don't. Yeah, I think
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  that because you know, people are asking me like, well, you know,
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  because I've said that I'm not really in support of artificial wounds and these
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  kinds of things, and they've asked me why because they I guess they want
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  me to co sign on it, and I just don't think it's gonna make
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  them happy. I don't think they have a really good success rate. I
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  don't think they're gonna be very feasible. But I mean, ultimately, I
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  don't think it's gonna come. I think the results are gonna be catastrophic,
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  not even in the long run. I think in the you know, like
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  right off the bat, and I just I just think that it's a long
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  it's a it's a it's a very hard road to go when we could just
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  be working on like the interactions between men and women. And I agree,
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  and I will say that ultimately women have to be the they have to be
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  the one that steps up. They have to be and then and that's it.
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  It's they have to step up. I mean, it's the like,
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  you know, they got to step up. And you know, because I'm
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  not for like, you know, blaming men, I don't think it does
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  anything. I think that men have been unpersoned. I've talked about how men
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  as a group have been at it, have been put into a black cat
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  category. Women are moving further away from them, and they're being lied to
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  about everything that they should have access to, and they're going to feel the
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  pain. Like when they're going to feel the pain when they realize that they're
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  looking that, you know, the kind of life they want is not going
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  to bring them the happiness they want. They're not going to find the man
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  that they think that they are entitled to, and they're going to be like,
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  what have I done? And I'm trying to help them by saying,
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  ladies, get your shit together, because you are the only ones that can
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  change this. And AI and artificial wounds and all insurrogacy, these things they're
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  you know, they're only going to benefit a very small percentage of the population,
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  who, by the way, are themselves in families, married and having
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  lots of kids, like or at least some kids. Like literally the you
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  know, like maybe not the lesbian separatists feminists, but a lot of the
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  old feminists they they're married and they're and they're making babies or you know,
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  or or they're trying to so they're literally not they don't believe what they preach.
• 25:59
  Yeah, yeah, a lot you'll see that, like a lot of
• 26:02
  the high higher echelon feminists do not do not live what they preach. Why
• 26:11
  are we doing what they're saying? Like what like you shouldn't listen, you
• 26:14
  know, like to get your ship together, is what I'm saying. But
• 26:17
  we have Okay, good, go ahead. I'm sorry. I'm just saying
• 26:21
  let's get to the article Okay is played here. It's from EV magazine.
• 26:26
  EV magazine is a I don't think it's a feminist magazine, or at least
• 26:30
  it wouldn't. It wouldn't describe itself as one. It's it's would describe itself
• 26:37
  as a conservative magazine. I don't think it really is. I don't think
• 26:41
  that word has any meaning. But that's a a conversation for another time.
• 26:45
  And they're generally like coming out and saying, you know, they're talking about
• 26:48
  like basically the direction that things are going in and complaining about it like most
• 26:52
  women. So this article is entitled we can't compete with AI girlfriends, and
• 26:57
  it says design a girl who is always on your side says replica. Now,
• 27:03
  why would that even be something that you could sell to men? I
• 27:07
  wonder. I wonder why that would even be something that could sell to men.
• 27:12
  It's really good. It's a very short read, so I'm not going
• 27:18
  to interrupt too much while you read it. I want to get to the
• 27:22
  people, is joju on? You want me to share the you's just sleeping?
• 27:30
  No, you mean you'll share it through discourse so I can see a
• 27:33
  can I have a chroma jojo. Oh yeah, sure, hold on,
• 27:37
  I'll share my give me a second here, okay, all right, So
• 27:45
  you know, I just think that it's a short it's a short article.
• 27:48
  It's got some just things to say, I think, and uh, yeah,
• 27:53
  this is not it's not conservative, this is not outright feminists, because
• 27:57
  sometimes they do have some pretty base takes at Ella Elliot. Yes, there
• 28:02
  they're okay. I wouldn't you know they're they're okay, so maybe maybe they
• 28:06
  might. Sometimes you know, you get people who are like, something's wrong
• 28:10
  with society and I don't know what it is, but I want to talk
• 28:12
  about what I'm seeing, and they're just like sort of on their on their
• 28:17
  journey. Okay, let me let me let me just spread preface this before
• 28:19
  we get into it. I'll do the things and the bet I'll preface,
• 28:22
  okaying, all right, so we are. I did start our like mid
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• 29:33
  I want to say this before we start. Okay, now we are
• 29:37
  probably going to criticize the conclusions and some of the stuff in this article,
• 29:41
  but we need to realize, I think, and this is to to generate
• 29:47
  a sense of sympathy Ellie. I think represents women who do want to have
• 29:51
  relationships with men, They very much are interested in being with men. They
• 29:57
  may not even be the the ones on Tinder who are all going after the
• 30:02
  same man. They may actually be genuinely interested in a man who is,
• 30:07
  you know, a good provider, who wants to be a companion, you
• 30:10
  know, and they want to build a family together, so they want men.
• 30:14
  So when they get upset that it's looking like men are going to turn
• 30:18
  away from them towards AI, I mean I have more sympathy for that,
• 30:23
  because at least the LA crowd or audience actually wants a relationship ev vie sorry
• 30:30
  EV crowd or audience actually wants a relationship for men with men like they want
• 30:36
  one. They're not like feminists who are basically men are horrible pressers and and
• 30:41
  it's you're you're an idiot for getting into a relationship. Why are they going
• 30:44
  to AI? Why are men going to AI? That's not that's not exactly
• 30:48
  the situation. So we're dealing with a group of women who do want to
• 30:52
  be in relationships with men, who haven't overtly essentially maligned the whole idea of
• 30:59
  marriage by saying that men are a terrible choice in marriage that they are,
• 31:03
  you know, awful, and they'll just exploit you and they'll just force you
• 31:07
  to be a domestic servant plus sex slave or whatever the hell else feminists come
• 31:11
  up with. Right, So, these are women who are not underselling men
• 31:15
  as partners. They genuinely want them. So I just wanted to say that
• 31:18
  that that's sort of a we should have look at it through that lens.
• 31:22
  And I hope that if there's anybody who has read this article was part of
• 31:26
  Evie's audience, they realize I sympathize with that. Yes, you know,
• 31:30
  because if you genuinely want to be with a man, having a technology make
• 31:37
  that more difficult is sort of stressful. You know, it is very It
• 31:45
  can be very anxiety inducing. On the other hand, I think you need
• 31:51
  to understand more of the context that's happening here, and that may give you
• 31:55
  a clue as to how to deal with it in a way that is beneficial
• 32:01
  without blaming men further, because the more you blame men, the more men
• 32:06
  are gonna buire up their AI girlfriends to get away from you. So I
• 32:13
  just want to preface that. So let's let's go ahead. Fair enough,
• 32:15
  Okay, let's get into the article. So ads for Ai Girlfriends have been
• 32:21
  taken have been all over TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook. Lately, Replica
• 32:28
  and Ai Chatbot, originally offering mental health help and emotional support, now runs
• 32:34
  ads for spicy selfies and hot role play. Eva Ai invites users to create
• 32:40
  their dream companion, while dream Girlfriend promises a girl who exceeds your wildest desires.
• 32:45
  The app Intimate even offers hyper realistic voice calls with your virtual partner.
• 32:52
  All right, so let's stop there. I don't know if they're gonna do
• 32:55
  this, but why does this exist? Because I think that these companies are
• 33:02
  responding to a demand. They are responding to to like men's desire to connect
• 33:13
  with women and be intimate with women and talk to women. So if women
• 33:19
  were and men were talking to each other, would we need this? I
• 33:25
  mean that's like that's the that's like step one, Like why does this product
• 33:30
  even exist? And why does it exist to the degree because I mean,
• 33:34
  there'll always be some people who are very lonely. I'm reminded of in Japan
• 33:40
  there was a guy who married hat Sune Miku. You know who Hatku is?
• 33:49
  Like that artificial intelligence pop singer with the green pigtails. Very did you
• 33:54
  need me to say? No, I do not know who this individual.
• 33:59
  I'm sure the audience knows whot in me anyway, I don't know she was
• 34:02
  called. I think she was called vocaloid or something. But basically it was
• 34:06
  a. It was a It was the first artificial virtual like like idle pop
• 34:15
  idol okay. And this guy named uh Akihiko Condo or condo married her or
• 34:25
  married a version of her or something. Right, this was years ago,
• 34:30
  I mean years ago, and of course everyone knows about the what is it
• 34:34
  the herbivore movement that was not movement. I wouldn't call it movement, the
• 34:38
  herbivore men phenomenon in Japan, which were like the early kind of in cells.
• 34:45
  And I don't even I hesitate to use that term because I'm sure someone's
• 34:47
  gonna sell tell me how they're not exactly the same. But it's like men
• 34:51
  who who don't want to they don't want to socialize, they don't want to
• 34:57
  like chase after girls. They find it's too much trouble. They just want
• 35:00
  to stay in and all that, and they're shut ins. Or there's another
• 35:04
  thing I think it might be similar, but they're like modern hermits, right,
• 35:07
  and these people that don't leave their house. That's not like something that
• 35:14
  anybody wants, you know, like that's that's not a situation that we should
• 35:17
  find desirable. And I don't think that those guys are happy. I think
• 35:22
  that they would rather you know, it wasn't that way. And one of
• 35:24
  the things about the herbivore man is kind of a it's used as a slur
• 35:30
  because the idea is that they're not chasing after them, you know, like
• 35:32
  the meat, right, They're they're they're staying out of the rat race,
• 35:38
  and women are not like, you know, taking an interest in them because
• 35:44
  they're not a part of that. And so I think that this this AI
• 35:51
  thing a replica and Eva AI and dream Girlfriend, those only exist because there
• 35:59
  are enough men who are that isolated. So I'm you know, like I'm
• 36:06
  saying, like this the the it's it's one of these things where I think
• 36:08
  there's been a an extremely complex band aid. It's not even a solution.
• 36:15
  It's certainly not a solution that's been applied to a very simple problem. And
• 36:21
  the the but the thing is, it's just so difficult for people to say,
• 36:24
  wait a minute, you know, you know, like I know,
• 36:28
  Elsie, you're muted right now. I don't know if you can't talk.
• 36:30
  But do you know that for most of our history, most of our relationships
• 36:34
  were arranged, like for most of our history, and I don't mean like
• 36:38
  well, you know, like like you were forced to marry someone, but
• 36:43
  but for most of human history, when you lived in a community and you
• 36:49
  were growing up as a young man or woman, the people that you would
• 36:52
  be interested in were the people in your community. But also before you were,
• 36:59
  before you like you know, dated someone or and much less like you
• 37:02
  know, propose or got married, you you had you were expected to meet
• 37:07
  the families of your partner and they would meet yours, and so like all
• 37:12
  this stuff that we do now, it's very very recent. And I'm not
• 37:15
  talking about because of the Internet. I mean before the internet, like,
• 37:19
  but but for most of history, it would be like, oh, you
• 37:22
  know, I'm there's a girl at school. I kind of like her.
• 37:24
  And then you're you're you know, we'd be like, oh that's cool,
• 37:28
  let me I want to meet her, bring her over for dinner or something.
• 37:30
  And then you would bring her over, and then your parents would suck
• 37:32
  them out, like this whole thing where you know, everything is isolated and
• 37:38
  alone. Yeah. Yeah, this way that we do things now, it's
• 37:40
  completely novel. It's like not historically like norms, you know, normal range
• 37:46
  and even before the Internet. So I know people says dating apps or whatever.
• 37:50
  I think it's way before that, maybe the sixth arranged. So yeah,
• 37:54
  arranged is probably the wrong word. It's more like the community came together
• 38:00
  to make opportunities for pair bonding. Yeah, but they were also able to
• 38:05
  help you like determine whether or not well. First of all, they would
• 38:09
  make people in their community more datable by sort of like demonstrating what good behavior
• 38:17
  is for boys and girls. And on top of that, they would meet
• 38:22
  like if you know, if you if there was a girl in your school
• 38:25
  that you liked, your parents probably knew her her parents, right, and
• 38:30
  they were like, oh, yeah, that family is really great, right,
• 38:34
  so the girl is great or whatever, like they were. And I'm
• 38:37
  not saying that this is fool proof, but I'm saying there was more social
• 38:40
  proof. There was a lot more and we don't know, don't have that
• 38:46
  so no, yeah, and it's it's a big it's a big deficit,
• 38:52
  because it's different if a man is part of the community and a woman can
• 38:57
  see that, or vice versa. You know, he's art of whatever clubs
• 39:01
  to help do things in the weekends for I don't know, maintenance for hospitals
• 39:07
  or and then he has a family who you know, has their own reputation,
• 39:13
  you know, and all that kind of stuff. It's much different.
• 39:15
  Like the level of social proof required for that man. He's already got it.
• 39:20
  He's already in his pocket. You know, he can already say,
• 39:22
  well, I'm part of these community groups. I help out in this way
• 39:27
  in the community. This is my family, you know. My brother's a
• 39:30
  lawyer, my other brother works the hardware store, my sisters and nurse whatever.
• 39:35
  Right, So there's this, this this cachet, this social proof that's
• 39:38
  all gone. Everything is on the man now to prove that he is a
• 39:45
  legitimate member of a society, which is in many ways, like what that's
• 39:49
  something that women want to see. They want to see a man who has
• 39:52
  a legitimate connection to society. That is social proof. It's not just that
• 39:55
  he can have lots of pussy, but that he if you're looking at a
• 40:00
  woman who isn't like I want to be ravished by an entire football team of
• 40:06
  pirates. But actually a woman who wants to build a family and a community,
• 40:10
  who has that kind of mindset, they are going to be looking for
• 40:13
  that kind of social proof and even in and how do you bring that ahead
• 40:20
  too, this potential relationship when you are just a set of statistics on a
• 40:27
  tender profile, when we're so atomized, like it works against pair bonding because
• 40:34
  you know, we have these instincts. Women have these instincts. They want
• 40:36
  to see a man connected to a social group. That's actually in in romance
• 40:44
  novels. I know that this is you know, like Peterson was saying that
• 40:47
  the top five women a man wants, or top five men and a woman
• 40:53
  wants as billionaires, were wolves, whatever. Actually the top one is a
• 41:00
  man who has part of a community or head of a community if you think
• 41:04
  about it, mm hmm, who has community ties and who's respected in a
• 41:08
  community. That's number one, and that that compasses all of those which are
• 41:15
  all exaggerations of that. But yeah, it's it's that they want to see
• 41:21
  a man who has the resources of a community community for obvious reasons, evolutionary
• 41:25
  reasons, and men don't present that anymore because we're all so atomized. And
• 41:31
  then what do we do We put that back on men? Men are somehow
• 41:36
  supposed to be a community and a man for a woman. How? Yeah,
• 41:43
  literally, seriously, how how are men supposed to be a community and
• 41:47
  a man for a woman? Ye? And that's that's what That's what this
• 41:53
  is, and that's that's what is one of the things that men need to
• 41:57
  overcome. Nobody's talking I don't think anybody's talking about that specifically, No,
• 42:01
  right, and how how men are supposed to overcome that that need because in
• 42:06
  the past, women didn't just marry men, they married the resources that that
• 42:09
  man's community represented, which is why communities were really pissed when women stole their
• 42:16
  resources by having children that weren't genetically related to the community. Right. That's
• 42:22
  that's where all that shit comes from, all the honor killings, because it
• 42:25
  really pisses you off, especially when you're on the razors age of survival.
• 42:30
  A woman comes in and steals your resources. You know that's that You're not
• 42:32
  gonna be happy with that. It's gonna be considered a deep betrayal. So
• 42:37
  women are looking for that. Men can't show it. How are they going
• 42:40
  to show it? Mm hmm you muted. You muted yourself, Aulse don't
• 42:47
  know if you're still talking. So you know what, I just randomly muted
• 42:51
  myself by flailing. That has got to be the most the biggest failure out
• 42:55
  you just guys, you can just imagine me. I'm like a windmial except
• 43:00
  more erratic. Yeah, you know over here what I was saying is that,
• 43:04
  you know, like, how is a man going to show a woman
• 43:06
  that he's part of a community. It's like, you can't keep your community
• 43:08
  in your pocket, you know, bring it out. Here's my discourage server.
• 43:10
  Look at all these guys. You know, that's how how would you
• 43:14
  do that? Well, you might do it that way, but would would
• 43:17
  women? You know respond to that? But the overall point is how do
• 43:21
  we deal with that? And this is not this is not a conversation.
• 43:22
  Where do you hear this conversation anywhere anywhere? Because we're so key to blaming
• 43:30
  men. And the other thing is that if you're not blaming men, then
• 43:35
  you're part of the group that's just blaming women, which in and of itself
• 43:39
  isn't always helpful. I mean, there's a certain amount of responsibility that women
• 43:44
  have over this, But then there's also the stuff that women don't necessarily have
• 43:49
  complete control over, Like how do I find a man who fulfills that need
• 43:55
  that I have to see that he has the resources of a community, that
• 43:59
  he's invested in a community, and a community is invested in him. How
• 44:01
  do I find that? Well, it's hard to blame women for that,
• 44:06
  considering how you know they evolved, But then how do we solve it?
• 44:10
  Like you were saying, Brian communities invested in their young people and in the
• 44:15
  pair bonding of their young people because they knew that that was their future.
• 44:17
  And we don't do that anymore. Everything is on men to simulate everything and
• 44:22
  they can't do it. And we need to figure out these problems. We
• 44:27
  need to figure out answers to these problems without just defaulting onto blaming men,
• 44:34
  and also without just defaulting on blaming women. And I know that sounds really
• 44:38
  strange me saying that, but yes, women have responsibility to take one,
• 44:46
  but then we also need to recognize what they have to take responsibility for and
• 44:52
  also realize, you know, the problems and issues that they're dealing with,
• 44:58
  so that you can guide them to what they need to take responsibility for.
• 45:01
  If you understand what I'm saying, so and that isn't encapsulated by oh,
• 45:06
  women are are tricks and hose? Who uh who? Just you know,
• 45:10
  they're X, y Z and they're and they can't they can't evolve. Well,
• 45:14
  if they can't, we're fucked as a human race, right honestly.
• 45:17
  But if we can't get a little bit more refined in our criticism. Besides,
• 45:22
  women are tricks and hose, then what are they going to be able
• 45:24
  to take responsibility for? Like you were saying, women need to take response,
• 45:28
  Well, what what do we need to identify and how do we need
• 45:34
  to ameliorate it? Right? Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah?
• 45:37
  You, on one side we have the unrefined let's blame men. On the
• 45:42
  other side, we have the unrefined let's blame women. We've been pushing the
• 45:45
  let's blame men, and it's not comparable because we've been pushing the let's blame
• 45:50
  men on an institutional level. Okay, So I'm not I'm not gonna call
• 45:54
  out that people are like, well, can we blame women for once?
• 45:58
  Because I also do that and I don't want to be afraid of doing that.
• 46:01
  That's the thing. I don't think we should be afraid of blaming women.
• 46:04
  If we're gonna blame men, we shouldn't be afraid of blaming women.
• 46:07
  But on the other hand, that's only a start. Then we need to
• 46:10
  dig in and find out the exact issues that are happening and what is the
• 46:15
  problem, What is the block in the plumbing? Okay, I'll get off
• 46:22
  my soapbox, all right, Uh, all right, let's get in there.
• 46:28
  More of the article. I'll do more of the article. But the
• 46:30
  main point I wanted to make is what you know. There's apparently there are
• 46:32
  multiple ais, and they all seem to be girlfriend simulators, not boyfriend simulators,
• 46:40
  although I'm sure some of those exist too. Girlfriend simulators, So the
• 46:45
  question is why why does that exist? All right, So this might seem
• 46:51
  niche and weird, but it's a fast growing market. All kinds of startups
• 46:53
  are releasing romantic chat thoughts capable of having explicit conversations and sending sexual photos.
• 47:00
  Meanwhile, Replica alone has already been downloaded more than twenty million times, and
• 47:06
  even just one snaphot influencer Karen Major Marjorie makes one hundred thousand dollars a week
• 47:12
  by charging users a dollar a minute to chat with the AI version of herself.
• 47:16
  By the way, I learned like really recently. So there's this famous
• 47:23
  like twitch thought named Amaranth or Amoranth or something, and she's like a She
• 47:30
  was a cosplayer and then she saw that, you know, her body makes
• 47:34
  good money, and so she started doing more and more racy, racy things.
• 47:38
  And now you know, I don't I don't really know much about her,
• 47:43
  but except that I think I covered a couple of stories of hers.
• 47:47
  I can't remember exactly. I think she sold something gross, I don't know,
• 47:52
  but anyway, she also has a an AI like based on her personality
• 48:00
  that she is selling as a virtual girlfriend, and she's making a shit ton
• 48:05
  of money, and there are people that are This is the thing that I
• 48:08
  saw. I saw it on a YouTube channel called culture I can't remember the
• 48:15
  name of the culture crisis, I think, and they were talking about it,
• 48:19
  and what I noticed about the tone was that they were all kind of
• 48:22
  like dunking on the men that were using the chatbot or buying you know,
• 48:30
  almorants like AI, right, And I was just sitting there going, why
• 48:36
  would they do that, Like I mean, it's a rhetorical question because I
• 48:38
  know it's like, well, why are they doing that? And it seems
• 48:42
  that the idea is, well, why don't you just not do that and
• 48:44
  go and just go like ask girls out right, go approach women. It's
• 48:47
  like, yeah, but what kind of climate do we live in right now?
• 48:51
  I'm not saying that this is a good move, Like I said,
• 48:53
  I'm not necessarily promoting this, but I'm trying to understand where it comes from.
• 48:59
  And I think that to be dismissive and to say, well, you
• 49:01
  know, like I don't know, like you you shouldn't be doing this or
• 49:07
  whatever, I think it's it's a it's a cop out, because what you
• 49:10
  should be asking is, you know, why why are men paying somebody who
• 49:17
  doesn't give a shit about them and who has used them emotionally in the past.
• 49:22
  Why are they paying her money to pretend to like be with her only
• 49:30
  in a virtual sense with an artificial intelligence and like you know, like like
• 49:35
  not actually talking to a person at all. And how many other people are
• 49:37
  doing this? And plus, by the way, because I keep hearing this
• 49:40
  thing about Andrew Tate right that he you know, he responds to people who
• 49:47
  talk to his camgirls or whatever. Well, yeah, all of these camgirls,
• 49:52
  all of these people on OnlyFans, they're all doing that. It's not
• 49:57
  a unique thing. He didn't even make it up. It was going on
• 50:00
  before that. Do you really like, look look at this, Okay,
• 50:02
  this is a thing that people don't seem to to get. The women on
• 50:07
  OnlyFans that make the most money do not actually respond to their dms. They
• 50:14
  hire people to do it for them. I know it's shocking because you want
• 50:17
  to think that it's men doing this, but women also can be their own
• 50:22
  pimps, and they are and so I'm ranthus doing that, and lots of
• 50:25
  other women are doing that. So I just wanted to point that out.
• 50:30
  And I think that this is a very like a growing popular trend. Now
• 50:36
  what I would like is for us to, let's say, find a way
• 50:40
  to end simping like that. I mean, that's I don't know how else
• 50:43
  to put it. Men have to stop simping. But I understand where the
• 50:47
  instinct comes from, because it would seem that, you know, the way
• 50:51
  they see it is I'd rather be talking to someone who I know isn't real
• 50:57
  that that's being nice to me than talk to someone who you know, I'm
• 51:00
  I'm in I'm afraid of essentially, like I'm afraid of upsetting. So I
• 51:05
  get the instinct, but we have that this is not the solution, you
• 51:08
  know, so hm, well yeah, And I also would would would question
• 51:14
  like once this becomes widespread, once once all of your girlfriends come from a
• 51:19
  central computer, you know that feminists are going to be all over that like
• 51:22
  a monkey on a banana. Yeah, right, And that they are going
• 51:28
  to make it so that the people who've constructed this system have to comply to
• 51:31
  them in the same way that they've constructed it, so that YouTube somehow has
• 51:37
  to comply to them, or Twitter used to have to comply to them,
• 51:40
  like they're they're gonna be like, yeah, if you want to continue to
• 51:44
  make money off of this, you gotta you gotta give feminism it's cut.
• 51:47
  You know. So it's a nice chat, centralized chat, But girlfriend scheme,
• 51:53
  you got run in here too bad. If we were to come in
• 51:57
  and regulate you out of business, yeah, you know, like we were,
• 52:02
  we were to accuse you of misogyny and put you out of business.
• 52:07
  I remember what I remember what ARMS was selling now it was her. It
• 52:10
  was a beer that she made out of her vaginal yeast, or claimed to
• 52:15
  have bought made out of her Good lord, I think that well, But
• 52:21
  the point is that she had she had the cojones to do this, and
• 52:28
  people bought it. So this is what I'm saying, is like this,
• 52:30
  you know, I mean, look, any person can try to sell like
• 52:34
  we know, feminist art is crazy gross. It almost always involves bodily fluids,
• 52:39
  and like it's it's but like the that the issue isn't that it exists.
• 52:44
  The issue is that people pay for it, that they entertain it,
• 52:47
  and so like this is not like somebody mentioned the bath water. I'm not
• 52:51
  talking about Bell Delphine the the that's different, but they also just as bad.
• 52:58
  But yeah, I mean like, but again, and you have to
• 53:00
  ask a question like why does this market exist? Okay, I've never felt
• 53:06
  the need to buy you know, or bath water? Yeah, I've never
• 53:13
  felt like I got Remember the remember the foot scraper? Like what the foot
• 53:19
  scrapings? Like the foot skin? Remember that you get a video? I
• 53:22
  remember that too. Yeah, make sure you're legitimate foot skin, you know,
• 53:27
  good lord? Yeah? Okay, well that you at least you know
• 53:31
  that if you're getting a foot skin, it's probably not from an AI.
• 53:36
  Yep, unless they're getting it off of like men and selling it. Let's
• 53:43
  let's finish off the article. Okay, let's finish this of course. So
• 53:46
  there's a picture of an AI girlfriend. I don't know who this is,
• 53:50
  your AI experience. It's a sponsored ad or something that they embedded. I
• 53:54
  think I don't think it's real, Okay. Of course, most people are
• 54:00
  talking about what this means for men, given that they make up the vast
• 54:02
  majority of users. Many worry about a worsening loneliness crisis, a further decline
• 54:07
  in sexual intimacy, and ultimately the emergence of a new generation of in cells
• 54:12
  who depend on and even verbally abuse their virtual girlfriends. Which is all very
• 54:16
  really hard to get that in. Oh yeah, we got to get that
• 54:20
  in apparently, like frustrated. Why are they frustrated? Like I would like
• 54:27
  to solve that issue, you know, and and who are they hurting if
• 54:30
  they're taking it on their virtual girlfriends? Like are we going to stand up
• 54:34
  for ais now? Are we going to fight for the AI AI rights before
• 54:38
  men? Well? AI women, Alison, Well, yeah, we're gonna
• 54:43
  give AI women rights before we give men rights. Yes, it's ridiculous.
• 54:49
  We're going to protect AI women from domestic abuse before we protect men from domestic
• 54:52
  abuse. Like, this is ridiculous. And honestly, here my sympathy for
• 54:59
  Eve is sort of minimizing because of that statement, that kind of this is
• 55:06
  a typical, pleasy, backhanded, abusive thing to say about men. Yeah,
• 55:10
  And honestly, like you do you lack self awareness? You not see
• 55:15
  what you've just asked, Like this is the ship that makes men turn away
• 55:19
  from you? Okay, Like this blanket condemnation of men makes men turn away
• 55:24
  from women the end. Now, I, like Brian, I have my
• 55:30
  reservations about AI. I have my reservations about like a central girlfriend that men
• 55:37
  hook into, because I know that that's going to get co opted and they
• 55:42
  are going to figure out a way to push or either just manipulate men.
• 55:46
  And that is a very vulnerable position that men are going to be in,
• 55:51
  you know, opening their hearts to this central girlfriend who then can be programmed
• 55:55
  or influenced by any political group. So I mean, it's it's something you
• 56:00
  consider. But on the other hand, I absolutely one percent sympathize with men's
• 56:07
  desire to go somewhere to, as Evie said, an entity that is on
• 56:14
  their side. Like, Evie, you just demonstrated you're not on men's side.
• 56:19
  Why do you think they're going to find another place where they can interact
• 56:22
  with something which is on their side, Like, why are you demonstrating the
• 56:30
  very behavior that's leading men to not want to be around women at all?
• 56:37
  Anyway, let's let's keep going. All right, Well, I got a
• 56:40
  couple of super childs. I should read them before they disappear. So two
• 56:45
  from Richard Berre. One of them I can't find in my ninja thing,
• 56:50
  but it's okay. He gives us five bucks and says, what does the
• 56:52
  action look like on these? Being an automated replacement for camgirl sites? Someone
• 56:59
  could make some serious coin with way lower overhead costs than what is happening with
• 57:02
  cam thoughts, And then he gives us another ten dollars and says, when
• 57:07
  do we get Ai Badger Chan rumble Chan like Chan and Vivian Chan waiting to
• 57:10
  see limburger cheese made from ef some ethoughts feet bacteria. Well, kind of
• 57:16
  gross and it's weird, but it's not without it it's no longer outside the
• 57:22
  realm of probability. Not no, not at all. Okay, let me
• 57:29
  take badger Chan out of there. I have to say one thing, just
• 57:31
  yeah, just before I forget. I think the other platform that we were
• 57:35
  using. I think it was riverside. This stream brought to you by riverside
• 57:38
  dot FM. No, that that platform I think worked a lot better than
• 57:43
  this one. What do you mean it just rivers like the one we used
• 57:49
  the last last show. Did we use Riverside? I just yeah, with
• 57:53
  Karen? Oh you mean when I was watching that? What are you talking
• 57:58
  about? I don't understand. Yeah, oh about the video the what v
• 58:04
  d oh ninja? Then for the chat? Yeah no, no, no
• 58:07
  for the chat for yet, for the talk the conversation. We used riverside,
• 58:14
  I don't know. Okay, never mind, I think I'm introducing too
• 58:16
  much confusing stuff. Ok thank you, Richard. The call for the call
• 58:22
  where you and Karen were in, that was v d oh ninja. That
• 58:24
  was a chat function riverside. It's a it does like the AI editing,
• 58:30
  it like creates transcripts. We do have an AI bought here at Honey Badgery.
• 58:38
  It's not here right now, there you go. There's the tie in.
• 58:40
  Not right I am. I am working on something though, but I'll
• 58:46
  reveal that later. And I got a super has a secret project, Yeah
• 58:52
  I do. I got a super chat from Albert Nata Retro for five dollars
• 58:55
  Canadian and he says, you know what, male victims of domestic having with
• 59:00
  female victims of domestic both are victims of domestics. Yes, yeah, sure
• 59:07
  that tell that to feminists because male victims of domestic violence and feminist theory are
• 59:15
  basically they they asked for it. Therefore they're the primary gressers. Even if
• 59:20
  they were they never threw a punch or ever hit, they still asked for
• 59:22
  it because they engaged in some form of abuse. It's the only explanation for
• 59:29
  why a woman would hit a man is if he's abusive somehow, maybe maybe
• 59:34
  psychologically, maybe in the etheric realm he was abusive realm, Yeah, he
• 59:39
  was, he was. He was. He was hitting her with his thought,
• 59:43
  thetans, you know something like that. Okay, all right, I
• 59:47
  want to thank Richard Beer for a hundred bucks towards this month's fundraiser. Thank
• 59:54
  you, Richard, And if you would like to help us out like the
• 59:57
  various very generous Richard, also the very generous Meredith. Please go to feed
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  the Badger dot com slash support to do so, and once more, if
• 1:00:08
  you want to send us some messages, feed the badger dot com slash just
• 1:00:10
  the tip. I think this is a cool, cool subject. Actually,
• 1:00:16
  as much as I say that it's a negative, I wanted to leave this
• 1:00:22
  till to maybe the end of the article. But I think it's also a
• 1:00:25
  huge positive, a huge boon. I would disagree with you, Brian in
• 1:00:30
  some ways, but I'll get to it once we get to the end of
• 1:00:32
  the articles. Well, I mean, if it's going to result in women
• 1:00:35
  panicking and trying to like change things, then yeah, sure, no spoilers,
• 1:00:40
  all right, all right, all right, all right. I mean
• 1:00:43
  I assume that because there's nowhere else you can go. But let me continue,
• 1:00:45
  Okay, Which is all very concerning. That is about abusing their virtual
• 1:00:51
  girlfriends. But I wonder if AI girlfriends really do become as pervasive as online
• 1:00:55
  porn what this will mean for girls and young women who feel the need to
• 1:01:00
  compete with this. Most obvious to me is the ramping up of already unrealistic
• 1:01:06
  beauty standards. I know conservatives often get frustrated with feminists calling everything unattainable,
• 1:01:10
  and I agree that they can go too far, but still, as a
• 1:01:15
  woman, remember conservative women are still women, so they're not going to necessarily
• 1:01:20
  go all the way against it. That's a very rare bird that would do
• 1:01:24
  that. I agree they can go too far, but still it's hard to
• 1:01:29
  deny that the pressure to look perfect today is unlike anything we've ever seen before.
• 1:01:32
  And I don't think that's necessarily pressure from men, but I do very
• 1:01:37
  much think it's pressure from a network of profit driven industries that take what men
• 1:01:42
  like and mangle it into an impossible ideal. Yeah, but maybe you should
• 1:01:45
  just ask men what they like instead of looking at what the you know,
• 1:01:49
  industries that are basically run by women and gay men, instead of going to
• 1:01:54
  those people. You know. All right, anyway, let me just let
• 1:01:58
  me just keep going until the pressure isn't just to be pretty, but filtered,
• 1:02:02
  edited and surgically enhanced to perfection, until the most lusted after women in
• 1:02:07
  our culture look like virtual avatars, and until even the most beautiful among us
• 1:02:12
  are to be seen as average. Do you want to say anything to that?
• 1:02:21
  I mean, sure, but there's also equal pressure on men for that,
• 1:02:24
  and in fact more because women are even stricter when it comes to yeah,
• 1:02:30
  like women are like men will consider the average woman average attractive, like
• 1:02:35
  and the the men aren't considered attractive until they're in the top ten percent for
• 1:02:39
  women. So I mean, yeah, I guess. But if you think
• 1:02:45
  this is unique to women, it's not. It's worse when it comes the
• 1:02:47
  situation is worse for men. I mean that, and really it well,
• 1:02:52
  it's not that under pressure to look great though, it's not just that,
• 1:03:00
  right, there's pressure to like, you know, be able to like take
• 1:03:04
  a woman out to a night at the Ritz Carlton or something like to spend
• 1:03:07
  yeah dollars on the first date, you know. So it's what was that
• 1:03:15
  they have to have. They have to look like Chris Helmsworth not not the
• 1:03:20
  bad god hit Chris Helmsworth or all the women in her circle jealous, Okay.
• 1:03:27
  They have to have the charm of like a romantic lead, and then
• 1:03:31
  they have to have the money of a of a very very wealthy man.
• 1:03:36
  And it's like that's a lot of pressure to put on men, and maybe
• 1:03:39
  that's why some of them are turning to chat pots. It's not because of
• 1:03:44
  their standards, it's because of women's standards. Yep, okay, all right,
• 1:03:50
  uh okay. Now add to all that a world of fully customizable AI
• 1:03:57
  girlfriends, each with flawless avatar face and a cartoonish body proportions. Eva AI's
• 1:04:02
  Dreamgirl Builder, for example, allows users to personalize every feature of their virtual
• 1:04:06
  girlfriend, from facetile to butt size, which could clearly be unhealthy for men
• 1:04:12
  who already have warped expectations. But it's also unhealthy for our generation of girls
• 1:04:15
  already hating how they look, suffering from facial embody dysmorphia, and seeking cosmetic
• 1:04:20
  surgery in record numbers. Already, many girls feel as if they are in
• 1:04:25
  constant competition with hyper sexualized Instagram influencers and infinitely accessible porn stars. Now the
• 1:04:30
  next generation will grow up not just with all that, but knowing the boys
• 1:04:35
  they like can build. Wait, now, the next generation will grow up
• 1:04:40
  not just with all that, but knowing the boys they like can build and
• 1:04:44
  sex sext their ideal woman, and feeling as if they must constantly modify themselves
• 1:04:48
  to compete. I find that tragic, okay, But so it affects women
• 1:04:55
  more you found that tragic. You find that tragic. But the whole industry
• 1:05:00
  specifically apparently created and designed to malign men, to disparage men, to express
• 1:05:09
  contempt for men as sexual and romantic partners. For women, that's not a
• 1:05:15
  problem, Like, yeah, I know that the EVI, that's not their
• 1:05:18
  focus, right, But think about it. You are being competed with by
• 1:05:24
  I guess AI girlfriends, right, So now there's AI girlfriends on the market.
• 1:05:29
  But think about the situation for men. Not only do they have to
• 1:05:32
  compete with romance novel heroes and all of the same kind of crap like the
• 1:05:40
  expectations, but they have to deal with a constant barrage of disparagement as sexual
• 1:05:47
  and romantic partners by an institution with billions of dollars of funding and all freedom
• 1:05:56
  academic freedom or sorry not academic freedom. Basically, the academia has rubber stamped
• 1:06:04
  feminist claims as legitimate, like just rubber stamp them. So academia is basically
• 1:06:10
  standing beside feminism and saying, yeah, they're right, Yep, they're just
• 1:06:14
  as legitimate as physics guys. Yep, they're absolutely one hundred percent right on
• 1:06:18
  our oppressors. That's that that's what they've always been. All they want to
• 1:06:23
  do is turn you into sex slave. Yep, that's one hundred percent right.
• 1:06:26
  You can't just trust the science. You can't question the science on this.
• 1:06:30
  And when you look at all of the statistics they use to support this
• 1:06:34
  nonsense, it's all riddled with fraud and errors and oversights and not dealing with
• 1:06:41
  every pot you know, like not looking at confounds, not looking at the
• 1:06:45
  falsifying their own conjectures. You know, it's all bullshit, And yet academia
• 1:06:51
  stands beside feminist campaigns to present men as terrible husbands and lovers, and men
• 1:07:00
  have to deal with that plus all of the pressure to be mister big right,
• 1:07:05
  and you're complaining about virtual girlfriends. Okay, yeah, and yes I
• 1:07:14
  do have some sympathy for you, because you guys at heavy and EV probably
• 1:07:18
  do want a relationship with a man. However, becoming the reason why men
• 1:07:25
  are going to artificial girlfriends in the first place not a good look, not
• 1:07:31
  a good strategy, sort of self defeating. Okay, all right, So
• 1:07:39
  they have a screenshot here of all the options body type, skinny fit,
• 1:07:42
  chubby based styles, hair colors, which is you know, interesting because I
• 1:07:45
  thought men's standards were like insane. Why is there all these options? Why
• 1:07:50
  is there all this customization if men only want like a perfect woman? Hmm
• 1:07:56
  weird, But it isn't. It isn't just unreal beauty standards that worry me.
• 1:08:00
  What's even more sinister is the unrealistic emotional standards set by these apps.
• 1:08:05
  Eva Ai, for example, not only lets you choose the perfect face and
• 1:08:10
  body, but customize the perfect personality, offering opinions like or options like hot,
• 1:08:15
  funny, bold, shy, modest, considerate and smart, strict,
• 1:08:19
  rational, greate. A girlfriend who is judgment free, who lets you hang
• 1:08:25
  out with your buddies without drama, who laughs at all of your jokes,
• 1:08:28
  control it all the way you want to, promises eva Ai Design a Girl
• 1:08:31
  A girl side says replica, what was that. I'm just I'm like,
• 1:08:38
  Evie, that's a bad thing. Okay, you just really showed your ass
• 1:08:42
  there. Yeah. What if I want to be judgmental? I want to.
• 1:08:45
  I want to be judgmental, and I want to restrict my partner's ability
• 1:08:49
  to hang out with with their friends. Yeah, yeah, I want shouldn't
• 1:08:54
  shouldn't all of this be seen as a huh. I think men actually expect
• 1:08:59
  things from us, accept our presence. Maybe we should be looking at these
• 1:09:02
  things that they kind of want out of women in their life. Yeah,
• 1:09:06
  maybe we should look at these things. Like seriously, how how disturbed is
• 1:09:11
  this? Oh my god, men can get ai chatbots that don't overtly abuse
• 1:09:17
  them. It's horrible. So much of us, they ask so much of
• 1:09:28
  us. How can we possibly be held to a standard of not being abusive?
• 1:09:33
  Like? Yeah, good lord, Like, could you imagine an article
• 1:09:38
  in Ernie magazine and the guys are like, oh, oh my god,
• 1:09:43
  these these women they want AI man bots and can you believe this? These
• 1:09:47
  am man bots are are are are not judging them? And and they're and
• 1:09:53
  they're not They're allowing their girlfriends to hang out with their friends without drama and
• 1:09:58
  and and they're laughing at their girl friend's joke. That's just a can you
• 1:10:01
  imagine the standards? Like what you have really shown your ass? Evie?
• 1:10:09
  Yeah, Like you gotta read this and realize you are demonstrating why men are
• 1:10:15
  choosing a fucking text bought over the average woman. Mm hmmm, Like like
• 1:10:23
  you're literally saying a men want not wanting to be with an abusive partner?
• 1:10:28
  Is too high a standard? Are you fucking kidding me? Are you fucking
• 1:10:33
  kidding me? Good? Lord? I mean, does anybody else see this
• 1:10:38
  insanity? Yep, I got a super child from Richard. Pierre gives us
• 1:10:46
  five dollars and says, just what is the difficulty level to just not be
• 1:10:51
  a herod in cunt raging harpie or a feminist who sees a relationship as a
• 1:10:58
  dominance contest. No, you don't understand. I think that women have forgotten
• 1:11:03
  that. I think that there is you don't understand, Richard, Yeah,
• 1:11:08
  go ahead. It's it's too much to ask for women not to be abusive.
• 1:11:14
  Okay, continue, Brian, Sorry, it's just too much. It's
• 1:11:16
  too much. I mean, technically it's illegal for you to engage in coercive
• 1:11:21
  control and restrict your spouse from, you know, seeing their friends. Technically
• 1:11:26
  that's illegal. Technically that would get you in the abuse or column at the
• 1:11:30
  Center for Disease Control. But you know, Ellie says, this is just
• 1:11:33
  too high a standard for women to be able to Lord, yep, god,
• 1:11:40
  damn, oh my god, are you telling me that men can have
• 1:11:44
  a chat bot that? Don't it doesn't murder them standards at all. Apparently
• 1:11:51
  not. Yeah, this is a this is another problem you guys aren't seeing.
• 1:11:57
  Okay, mm hmmm. So then they says, how can we compete
• 1:12:01
  with that? Already women in relationships complain about poor and addicted partners who aren't
• 1:12:06
  satisfied with actual intimacy. Now we're facing you missed something. Design a girl
• 1:12:12
  who is always on your side? But you did? Okay, design a
• 1:12:17
  girl who's always on your side? In quotes, says replica on your side.
• 1:12:26
  But you imagine Ernie, like the the the online magazine for men,
• 1:12:31
  Ernie, right, Can you believe these women they want to have a virtual
• 1:12:38
  boyfriend that doesn't judge them, that allows them to hang out with their friends,
• 1:12:44
  laughs at their jokes, and is always on their side. Can you
• 1:12:47
  imagine the sheer level of entitlement of those women? Are you good? Lord?
• 1:12:56
  I don't Actually, I really don't think that there's any any it had
• 1:13:00
  incredible voice for men that would assert such a thing that that would say women
• 1:13:06
  have too high standards if they want to be with a partner who doesn't judge
• 1:13:11
  them, I mean, aside from obvious things like you know, judging them.
• 1:13:15
  If they're abusive or murder their bunnies. But who doesn't judge them allows
• 1:13:20
  them to do you know, do their do things that make them happy,
• 1:13:27
  laughs at their jokes, and is on their side, like do you do
• 1:13:31
  you? Could you imagine any legitimate voice for men who would judge women for
• 1:13:35
  wanting those things from men? No? I mean yeah, r let me
• 1:13:45
  see what they say about judgment free. What do they mean by judgment?
• 1:13:48
  Oh? No, no, it just goes to some sort of Okay,
• 1:13:55
  all right, I'll read some more of this. Yeah, so let me
• 1:14:00
  see. Now we're facing a future where guys could get addicted to emotional validation
• 1:14:04
  elsewhere, sneaking away for some of that unparalleled devotion. Worse, what about
• 1:14:10
  young boys who grow up with this, whose first sexual experience is chatting with
• 1:14:15
  AI women who never say no, never argue, never have original thoughts or
• 1:14:19
  an identity of their own, and then they try to date a real girl.
• 1:14:23
  Oh, I see, so it's going to need to grapes. Yes,
• 1:14:29
  this isn't a problem because men are lonely and women like are conditioned to
• 1:14:34
  hate them on our easily propagandas into like seeing themselves as superior to men.
• 1:14:40
  This is a problem because these lonely men who only have AI to go to
• 1:14:44
  might become like dysfunctional in a dangerous way that harms women, which can't be
• 1:14:50
  can't be taken care of. Like, And first of all, this is
• 1:14:53
  not how it was, Like, no solutions, I don't know what to
• 1:14:56
  do. Just to kill themselves, friends, yeah, just yeah, you
• 1:15:00
  know, no, No, men shouldn't have AI, like, I mean,
• 1:15:03
  yes, I said that there's a there's a potential pitfall, but it's
• 1:15:08
  better than nothing. Right, men shouldn't have AI, and men should just
• 1:15:13
  you know, men should get over the idea that they're completely undesirable to women
• 1:15:16
  and women don't want them. But they can't manage that with AI. They
• 1:15:20
  should just kill themselves. Are you fucking kidding me? Oh? Good lord.
• 1:15:27
  And the other thing is that there's no indication that this is a pipeline
• 1:15:31
  to domestic abuse. There's no indication that any form of media is a pipeline
• 1:15:36
  to domestic abuse. What is a pipeline to domestic abuse is having been abused
• 1:15:41
  period and having developmental issues that you can see in a genetic test. All
• 1:15:47
  right, so, elle evie, you don't like something appealing to the idea
• 1:15:53
  that it's going to make men into demons is another reason why men are turning
• 1:15:58
  away from women, right, you know, like saying, oh, if
• 1:16:01
  you play another game of another hour of Balder's Gate, you're a demon who
• 1:16:05
  hates me. That's one reason why men are turning away from women. Yep,
• 1:16:10
  because they are demonizing their media and demonizing their media consumption. Okay,
• 1:16:15
  let's keep going. All right, let me see, and there are already
• 1:16:25
  all these men on Reddit raving about how their AI girlfriends never argue, complain,
• 1:16:29
  or get bored of them, while real girls continually disappoint. Again,
• 1:16:33
  maybe women should step up. Yeah, of course, I don't believe AI
• 1:16:38
  girlfriends are going to completely replace relationships, but I do think that much like
• 1:16:43
  online porn, they will be there, always accessible, always a temptation,
• 1:16:46
  always a source of instant satisfaction. And I think it's likely that for some
• 1:16:50
  a real girlfriend just won't seem enough on their own, especially considering nearly half
• 1:16:56
  of Replica's users are already in a relationship or married. Well maybe, I
• 1:17:00
  mean, how do we know they're doing it for some kind of like gratification
• 1:17:05
  or what if they're in a loveless marriage. I don't know. I'm not
• 1:17:10
  saying it's okay, but I'm saying, like, can we just try to
• 1:17:13
  understand this instead of just like presuming the worst, like you know, uh
• 1:17:18
  possible. Okay, Well, here's the thing they Evie apparently wants to reserve
• 1:17:25
  the right for women to be judgmental, to control men's activities, to demonize
• 1:17:33
  their hobbies, you know, and to basically control them. Right, is
• 1:17:41
  that compatible with this idea that women want men as a companion because it sounds
• 1:17:45
  like the AI is offering the companion experience, and ev says that women shouldn't
• 1:17:51
  have to compete with the AI because they're not offering the companion experience, they're
• 1:17:57
  offering the controlling, abusive partner experience. Like, seriously, you can't compete
• 1:18:08
  with AI because AI is supportive, because AI isn't judging them, because AI
• 1:18:14
  isn't forcing them to abandon their hobbies and friends, because AI is not bored
• 1:18:21
  of them, has an interest in what they have, what they want,
• 1:18:26
  Like, this is all what you get from a companion, right, So
• 1:18:30
  what AI is offering men is the companion experience that women said they would give
• 1:18:36
  men if they got men's role in society that they would be like, well,
• 1:18:41
  if we can make our own money, then we can be companions.
• 1:18:45
  No, not really, it didn't really fart that, not really how it
• 1:18:49
  shook out. But now AI is here saying, well, women sort of
• 1:18:54
  dropped the ball. We can offer you a companion experience men. And here's
• 1:19:00
  the funny thing. It's like AI is offering what men want, what women
• 1:19:05
  said they would get if they gave up access to their jobs, to their
• 1:19:12
  identity as men, to what defined them as desirable in the past. So
• 1:19:18
  it's basically like a man who said to a woman, oh, yeah,
• 1:19:21
  chop off your tits, I'll still find you attractive, and then no,
• 1:19:25
  actually I don't. That's what women did to men. They suckered them into
• 1:19:30
  this situation. They said, chop off your tits, they'll still find you
• 1:19:32
  attractive afterwards, and we find out that's not the case. Men chopped off
• 1:19:38
  their identity as providers, offered it to women and said here do you want
• 1:19:44
  this, you want meaning in your life? Take it? I mean,
• 1:19:46
  how else did women get it since they have no power over anything, but
• 1:19:50
  men gave it to them, and then women said, well we'll still find
• 1:19:55
  you. No, no, we actually we don't find you desirable anymore.
• 1:19:58
  We don't really want you as companions. That's the only reason why AI has
• 1:20:02
  any ability to compete with women. And then the funny thing is is that
• 1:20:10
  now women are turning around and getting upset that they're being out competed by something
• 1:20:15
  that's actually giving men what they said they would give men. And the funny
• 1:20:20
  thing is is, Evie, you have no right to complain about this,
• 1:20:27
  absolutely none, because all these men want is a companion. That's it.
• 1:20:35
  Like, it's like it's horrible. It's like some abusive friend complaining about their
• 1:20:41
  friend getting a companion bought that doesn't treat them like shit? Like what the
• 1:20:45
  hell are you talking about, Evie. M If you weren't if you didn't
• 1:20:53
  feel like you were entitled to be judgmental towards men, to control their hobbies,
• 1:20:59
  to control their access to their friends, what else was there, uh,
• 1:21:04
  you know, to to not be on their side. Like, if
• 1:21:09
  you weren't justifying being abusive, there'd be no market for this. Aim laugh
• 1:21:16
  at all your jokes. Yeah, yeah, you know, it's basically just
• 1:21:20
  like, oh, yeah, AI is is you know, these AI companies
• 1:21:25
  can actually simulate companionship for men, How can we compete with that? As
• 1:21:30
  women well be men's companions instead of their judgmental, controlling over lords, like
• 1:21:43
  good lord, Okay, let's keep going, all right, Uh yeah,
• 1:21:47
  I gotta go soon ish because I got to pick Lindsay up from work.
• 1:21:51
  So let's let's see. I guess we're almost at the end. Yeah,
• 1:21:58
  yeah, yeah, it's okay, but it also has isn't unreasonable to think
• 1:22:04
  that at least some men will entirely replace real intimacy with AI. After all,
• 1:22:10
  Gen Z is an especially anxious and socially awkward generation. Young people are
• 1:22:14
  having less sex than ever before and spend a lot of time watching online porn.
• 1:22:17
  The next generation, I think, which is Generation Alpha, I think
• 1:22:20
  it's safe to assume will be even worse. And even though we are right
• 1:22:25
  at the beginning of all this and the technology is still pretty clunky, men
• 1:22:28
  are already falling for their chatbots, proposing to them, and even feeling suicidal
• 1:22:33
  when they lose contact. What happens when AI becomes way more realistic, more
• 1:22:38
  powerful, and more mainstream. Well, it's a good question. Again.
• 1:22:42
  I think that at the end of the day, men would prefer real flesh
• 1:22:44
  and blood women if they're if they're nice to them and their companions. Yeah,
• 1:22:50
  companions, So just keep going. The only glimmer of optimism I can
• 1:23:00
  find in all this is that I think at some point life might become so
• 1:23:04
  stripped of reality and humanity that the pendulum wist wing. Maybe the more automated,
• 1:23:10
  predictable interactions are pushed on us, the more actual conversations with awkward silences
• 1:23:14
  and bad eye contact will seem sexy. Maybe the more we are saturated with
• 1:23:17
  the same perfect pornifie act avatars, the more desirable natural faces and bodies will
• 1:23:23
  be. Because perfect people and perfect interactions are boring. We want flaws,
• 1:23:28
  friction, unpredictability, jokes that fall flat. I hold on to hope that
• 1:23:30
  someday we will get so sick of the artificial that our wildest fantasies will be
• 1:23:34
  something human again. Okay, yes, you mean for men, that men
• 1:23:41
  should want your friction and flaws and your awkwardness and your stupid jokes. Because
• 1:23:45
  are you going to extend that to men? Because that's why men are going
• 1:23:49
  to AI. This is the elephant in the room. Men are going to
• 1:23:55
  AI, not because of their standards. Unless you're going to call them out
• 1:23:58
  for not wanting to be abused, which is sick. Evie, You're you're
• 1:24:01
  really showing your ass with that one. They're not going to AI for men's
• 1:24:06
  standards, They're going for women's because of women's because in many cases, these
• 1:24:12
  men don't think they measure up and they don't want to go through the pain
• 1:24:15
  of rejection for the very very thin chance that they're going to find a woman
• 1:24:20
  who is going to like them as a companion despite their flaws, Like this
• 1:24:26
  is the elephant in the room. What's driving this isn't men, it's women.
• 1:24:33
  Okay, yep, okay, uh where was I? Maybe more the
• 1:24:44
  more we are centurated with the same perfect porno fide actors, right, unpredictability
• 1:24:47
  jokes at fall flat. I hold on in the hope that someday we will
• 1:24:49
  get so sick of the artificial that our wildest fantasy will be something human again.
• 1:24:54
  But first we're going there. It's happening. We are lurching forward full
• 1:24:58
  speed. The next generation of boys and young men won't just have access to
• 1:25:00
  online porn, but personalized chatbots, AI, voice calls, VR headset experiences,
• 1:25:06
  deep fake technology, and whatever else is on the way. And my
• 1:25:10
  bet is the next generation of girls with battle anxiety and insecurity on a scale
• 1:25:14
  we've never witnessed before, with endless pressure to measure up physically, sexually,
• 1:25:16
  even emotionally, with whatever the market churns out for men. But forget about
• 1:25:25
  that. We are jumping into our desires, igniting our fantasies. That's what
• 1:25:30
  these companies will call it. As they intensify every female insecurity, monetize male
• 1:25:35
  loneliness, and commodify any last shred of human connection we should be sharing together,
• 1:25:41
  they will. They will mine it all for profit, promising a fantasy,
• 1:25:45
  a dream, and paradise along the way. Our only hope is that
• 1:25:48
  most men will want something human enough to resist otherwise. I really don't think
• 1:25:53
  we can compete. Okay, no, you can't. You while you have
• 1:25:59
  this, you could. You just have to stop thinking, you know what
• 1:26:03
  men want free at India. You can't compete. Your audience at EV can't
• 1:26:10
  compete if they internalize this crap that you're writing, they can't compete. But
• 1:26:15
  here's one thing, and this is this is where I get to rent.
• 1:26:17
  Right. Okay, how much time do we have? How much time we
• 1:26:20
  have before we have to leave how much time, Brian, Oh, I
• 1:26:27
  got like, uh, maybe ten minutes. Yeah, go ahead, all
• 1:26:31
  right, I'll try to keep my rent fairly quick. Then oh deep breath,
• 1:26:35
  all right, right at the end of this, you are pretending like
• 1:26:42
  men are the primary driver of this. They are not. First of all,
• 1:26:47
  you should not be looking at that list of attributes that are related to
• 1:26:51
  AI not being overtly abusive to men. That is the minimum standard, not
• 1:26:58
  like a maximum standard that's gonna some insecurity in you. That is a minimum
• 1:27:02
  standard for you to strive for, to allow men to have their hobbies,
• 1:27:06
  their friends, and to not be judgmental, critical, nagging harpies. That
• 1:27:13
  is like a minimum standard. Okay. If you can't meet that minimum standard,
• 1:27:17
  I'm afraid a relationship is not for you. Second of all, why
• 1:27:21
  are men lonely? Do you honestly think men are lonely? Because? Oh,
• 1:27:27
  they just all decided to have too high standards for women, Like just
• 1:27:32
  one day, you're like, you know, I really would prefer crippling loneliness
• 1:27:36
  to holding out, you know, like to the average woman, right.
• 1:27:44
  You know, maybe some guys have decided that, but only because the average
• 1:27:46
  woman apparently can't even be held to a standard of not being a criminal abuser.
• 1:27:51
  Like, seriously, Avy, you shouldn't be putting the standard for women
• 1:27:56
  as something below what she could be arrested for. You know, I mean
• 1:28:00
  in a real in a in a legitimate world where domestic violence against men is
• 1:28:04
  considered a problem, that's not this. No, you don't put that standard
• 1:28:11
  that low, that is below minimum, right, Okay, Now, yeah,
• 1:28:16
  I could see men choosing crippling lonelessness over an abusive relationship if Evie is
• 1:28:23
  gonna put the standard of women below that of even not being abusive. Right.
• 1:28:29
  But here's the other thing, Like, you're putting this all on men.
• 1:28:30
  It's men's fault. No, men didn't decide to be lonely. Women
• 1:28:35
  decided that for them when they decided the average man was not good enough for
• 1:28:40
  them. And now the average man has found an outlet with a a with
• 1:28:45
  AI and they want a companion. Everything. Everything you're describing here, you
• 1:28:51
  know what, you know what you're describing here for you, what you're describing
• 1:28:57
  here is an average woman, maybe a little bit more attractive than average.
• 1:29:02
  What they're choosing. What these men are choosing an average woman with different kinds
• 1:29:08
  of personality that is on their side, so supportive, you know, likes
• 1:29:15
  their jokes. Okay, so shares their sense of humor, allows them to
• 1:29:19
  have their hobbies and friends. So isn't a controlling abuser? Isn't judgmental?
• 1:29:26
  Okay, So isn't an action? Isn't like again, a controlling abuser.
• 1:29:30
  But what they're describing is an average woman who treats them like they are their
• 1:29:33
  companion. Let's be let's get it brown to brass tacks. That's what this
• 1:29:39
  is describing, Evie, that men want an average woman, maybe a little
• 1:29:45
  bit above average, maybe a little bit idealized. But who doesn't want that?
• 1:29:48
  Right? Okay, an average woman with personalities that are within the realm
• 1:29:55
  of reasonable, like hot, what was it? Hot, funny, bold,
• 1:30:00
  shy, modest, considerate, smart, strict, rational. I mean
• 1:30:02
  they're a little bit stereotyped. Really, It sort of sort of sounds like
• 1:30:05
  a you know, like it actually sounds like a Hell's Angel script but whatever,
• 1:30:11
  you know, description of a girl band. But whatever. So it's
• 1:30:15
  it's within the realm of reasonable, right. All of this is everything you're
• 1:30:20
  describing that men are trying to find with AI is within the realm of reasonable,
• 1:30:27
  within the realm of doable for the average woman. I mean, they
• 1:30:31
  even have chubby as a body type option. Do you think they put that
• 1:30:36
  in if men aren't choosing it? Okay, so we're the men want average
• 1:30:44
  women who are supportive or are in their side, laugh at their jokes,
• 1:30:47
  aren't judgmental, you know, let them have their hobbies. Average women who
• 1:30:53
  are companions, Oh my god, lock them up, such dread massogy.
• 1:31:00
  Are you freaking joking? Your article is exactly why men are going to AI.
• 1:31:08
  And the funny thing is this again, this isn't driven by men.
• 1:31:12
  I'm pretty sure if a man could find an average woman who wants to be
• 1:31:16
  his companion, who offers all of these things, you know, even if
• 1:31:23
  they if they get occasionally into arguments, even if they have disagreements, he
• 1:31:27
  would prefer that. He would prefer that. But that isn't available to him
• 1:31:33
  because the average woman doesn't want to be a man's companion, doesn't want the
• 1:31:40
  average man at all. So that's where this is coming from. This is
• 1:31:44
  driven by your choices as women, And here's the way that you solve it.
• 1:31:50
  You don't have to sit there like in this entire article reads like this
• 1:31:56
  is just happening to women like, it's just well, hope, I don't
• 1:32:00
  know the way things shake out. Some innat passive quality of ours will overcome
• 1:32:05
  the ar or maybe men will just dave us from ourselves just so passive.
• 1:32:13
  Here's how you compete. It's right when I was saying in the beginning,
• 1:32:16
  and incidentally, this is what makes this great. Okay, I'm gonna get
• 1:32:19
  into what makes this great, and then I'm gonna explain how women can compete.
• 1:32:24
  What makes this great. What makes this scary is that you know,
• 1:32:27
  if we have centralized girlfriend bought that the feminists will get it, get in
• 1:32:30
  there like a dirty shirt and start trying to control it. That was what
• 1:32:33
  makes it scary. What makes it great is that now women are gonna have
• 1:32:41
  to compete against something, and that's something they need, they desperately need,
• 1:32:47
  and they're gonna have to start looking at what they're competing against and not saying,
• 1:32:53
  oh, men are wrong for wanting it, but asking them why is
• 1:32:58
  it They're being out competed by a text interface, buy a spreadsheet. Okay,
• 1:33:03
  let's let's bring it down to brass tacks. Why are you being out
• 1:33:06
  competed by some freaking uncanny Valley, AI art and a spreadsheet. Ladies,
• 1:33:13
  Why okay, because you shouldn't be one hundred percent you shouldn't be. Well,
• 1:33:18
  one is you no longer want the average man as a companion, or
• 1:33:23
  if you ever wanted the average man as a companion, apparently that was just
• 1:33:26
  lie. That was just a lie you made up in the nineteen fifties and
• 1:33:29
  sixties just to get men to chop off their own identity and give parts of
• 1:33:33
  it to you. Right, But anyway, you don't really want the average
• 1:33:39
  man. What's the average man gonna do. It's gonna find companionship elsewhere.
• 1:33:42
  Well, if you want to successfully compete with that, which I don't get
• 1:33:46
  it, like, you constantly talk about how you don't want the average man,
• 1:33:49
  but now apparently you want him as soon as he's looking at something else.
• 1:33:53
  Well, if you want to compete with that, what do you do?
• 1:33:57
  Stop condemning men for what they want, Start understanding it, start understanding
• 1:34:02
  it, start internalizing it. Because where I hear is that a man may
• 1:34:08
  indeed want a woman who either supports him or maybe even fights for him.
• 1:34:14
  You know you could do that. Actually, AI can't simulate that. I
• 1:34:17
  don't think it ever, will believe me. AI will never simulate female men's
• 1:34:24
  rights activists. I guarantee it. Feminist wouldn't allow it. Uh, the
• 1:34:28
  creators wouldn't create it. So here's one way you can distinguish yourself from AI.
• 1:34:32
  Get off for fat duff metaphorically fat I mean, and fight for men.
• 1:34:39
  Tell them that you care about them, Tell them that you want them
• 1:34:42
  in your life. Tell them that you are fine with an average guy right,
• 1:34:45
  Tell them that you like their sense of humor. Tell them that the
• 1:34:48
  feminists are full of shit about how men are bad choices. Husbands and lovers.
• 1:34:57
  Fight against this goddamn narrative that is constantly pumped out, that's contemptuous and
• 1:35:05
  dismissive of men as partners. Fight back against it. Get out there and
• 1:35:12
  start using your voice to help men. That's how you can distinguish yourself from
• 1:35:17
  AI, because I guarantee AI will never do that. The feminists in their
• 1:35:24
  constructors will never let it happen. They'll never let it happen for one okay
• 1:35:31
  anyway, And there you go. That's how you distinguish yourself. Be men's
• 1:35:35
  companions, be men's advocates, fight for them, care about them. Support
• 1:35:41
  them, deny all the bullshit that's being said about them, distinguish yourself,
• 1:35:48
  get off your ass, become a better person, clean your room. I'm
• 1:35:57
  sorry I had to do that. I got okay, super Chow, and
• 1:36:05
  we also want to really quickly. Can do we have enough time to really
• 1:36:09
  quickly cover that one thing I was talking about? Oh right right, let
• 1:36:13
  me yeah, let me just read the super Chow first. I gotta go
• 1:36:15
  in like four minutes, so I'll read the super Child and then we'll do
• 1:36:21
  it. There's two of them actually, so they are from anonymous. I
• 1:36:28
  don't know why she's jumping like that, and let me just make sure.
• 1:36:33
  Oh no, though there was another Richard Great Indoors gave us one too,
• 1:36:36
  so I'll read that. Also, I'm trying some different things with the chat
• 1:36:41
  and it's not working out the way I want, so I might change it
• 1:36:44
  back. I wanted it scrolling across the bottom. But the problem is is
• 1:36:46
  that once something vanishes, I can't like feature it. So Great Indoors gives
• 1:36:53
  us ten bucks and says, maybe if women would define oh I got a
• 1:36:56
  bunch more now, Maybe if women would find the quality of their relationships to
• 1:37:00
  be more than the health of their sex life and thus basically offer more than
• 1:37:04
  just their body, then maybe the AI step for waif fus would seem less
• 1:37:09
  of a threat to them that I mean men. See. The thing is
• 1:37:14
  men don't actually think that about women, but the kind of like you know,
• 1:37:17
  dark triad men at the top do, and so women, because they
• 1:37:21
  don't really listen to other men, they presume that what the dark triad men
• 1:37:27
  want is what all men want. That's why they're always complaining about guys that
• 1:37:30
  like you think, well these guys don't exist. They do, but they
• 1:37:33
  are a tiny percentage of men. So yeah, I think that Evie has
• 1:37:41
  a blind spot. They the people here, they don't. They're just like
• 1:37:45
  other women. They only see the top men and they're like, well,
• 1:37:47
  these top men are kind of badly behaved and the bottom men are all creepy.
• 1:37:51
  And when I say the bottom, I mean the rest like other men.
• 1:37:57
  Right, this is Zappia, This is Anonymous gives us five bucks and
• 1:38:02
  says it's almost as if AI girlfriends have more compassion for men than actual women,
• 1:38:08
  and then he gives another five dollars and says, there was a Twitch
• 1:38:10
  streamer called bad Bunny who complained to her audience for low donations and low subscriptions.
• 1:38:16
  All she was doing was sitting on her gamer chair doing fuck all but
• 1:38:19
  existing, and she had the audacity to call her audience cheap asses. Yeah,
• 1:38:24
  but did they give her money? Because if they did, then she's
• 1:38:28
  justified. I mean, I don't agree with it. But the thing is,
• 1:38:31
  you know, it's it's men have to stop simping these women. Yeah,
• 1:38:38
  Sarien, but if it works, maybe I should start calling you guys
• 1:38:41
  cheap asses. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, I know, it's
• 1:38:45
  okay. And then Zaraanx gives us ten bucks and says if women or the
• 1:38:48
  author were the least bit curious, they'd understand that the customization options they might
• 1:38:53
  have to compete with is inherent in the fact that these men had the option
• 1:38:57
  to create their ideal mate. Weird Science had movie and television iterations Kelly LeBrock
• 1:39:02
  for the movie and Vanessa Angel for television. If every man had the Weird
• 1:39:06
  Science tools available and he had to go that route, each man would likely
• 1:39:12
  have something different, though there'd be many duplicates. Mine would be a mix
• 1:39:15
  of Mila Jovovich, Michelle Rodriguez, and Ava Mendez with various aspects of the
• 1:39:20
  personalities I attribute to them. That's a far cry from the pale skinned,
• 1:39:25
  dark haired woman I'm generally attracted to and have only seen a handful of in
• 1:39:30
  my life that were natural and not derived by makeup. Ultimately, it's character
• 1:39:35
  that matters and not the looks. All right, thank he's er anks and
• 1:39:40
  yeah for that. Okay, let's really quickly go through the final thing.
• 1:39:45
  So there is something I wanted to show you guys, because I think it's
• 1:39:46
  really critical. I don't know if you all remember the study that showed that
• 1:39:54
  men leave their sick wives more than women leave their sick husbands. I spoke
• 1:40:00
  about it in the past. I think I had a Twitter argument about it,
• 1:40:02
  and I mentioned the fact that the study found that the relationships that found
• 1:40:09
  that women or men were First of all, it did not find that men
• 1:40:12
  were leaving because it didn't say who was leaving whom, so it didn't indicate
• 1:40:16
  who was leaving home. Also, for whatever reason, the relationships that the
• 1:40:21
  sick women were in were considerably shorter than the relationships the sick men were in,
• 1:40:28
  So there was that that was another confound. So it might have just
• 1:40:30
  been a situation where shorter relationships tend to end are more likely to end than
• 1:40:36
  longer relationships. But now we find out you could pull up the Twitter thread.
• 1:40:45
  Yeah, now we find out that that study was complete bullshit to begin
• 1:40:49
  with, from stem to stern. Okay, and what's astounding about this?
• 1:40:55
  So they they actually didn't find a significant difference in the breakup of relationships if
• 1:41:02
  the man got sick or the woman got sick. But this has been going
• 1:41:05
  the rounds. I've seen feminists, multiple feminists reference it in order to describe
• 1:41:13
  how men again, men are a terrible choice when it comes to being a
• 1:41:16
  partner, being a husband, being a lover. Right. They've been referencing
• 1:41:19
  this over and over and over again to just throw it in men's face about
• 1:41:23
  how awful they are. Now we find out this study was total and utter
• 1:41:27
  crap, Right, but the damage is done. Now more people think that
• 1:41:31
  this is true and that men are a bad choice. But it just strikes
• 1:41:35
  me that while Ellie is writing an article about this about how men are turning
• 1:41:42
  to AI girlfriends, meanwhile we have academic institutions that devote themselves to creating bad
• 1:41:51
  science that proves that men are poor choices as partners. Think about that we
• 1:41:58
  have an entire academic institution devoting itself to this in various incarnations. Men are
• 1:42:06
  violent abusers, men are oppressors, men are rapists, Men leave their sick
• 1:42:12
  wives. Women are miserable in marriages, women are turned into domestic slaves and
• 1:42:17
  marriages. All of this stuff. You think about, all this corpus of
• 1:42:25
  stink that has been constructed by these well supported, while influential and moneyed institutions
• 1:42:32
  around men as partners. Okay, an eve is looking at these men going
• 1:42:40
  to AI for partnership. Maybe another big reason is because they've been told they're
• 1:42:46
  not wanted. How many times have men heard that they're a terrible choice for
• 1:42:53
  women. Hell, maybe these men are going to AI because they don't want
• 1:42:58
  to make woman miserable, because that's what that's the only thing they've been told
• 1:43:02
  their whole life that they will do if they ever get in a relationship with
• 1:43:05
  one, is to make her miserable. And what kind of unfairness is that,
• 1:43:11
  ye, Like, it's not even it's not even holding men to a
• 1:43:15
  it's not even the same as holding women to the standard or of apparently being
• 1:43:17
  a companion and not being abusive like that. You would think that everything that
• 1:43:21
  EV is calling out that women that men apparently want, would just be a
• 1:43:26
  minimum standard for a companion, like a romantic companion. But apparently it's just
• 1:43:30
  too much for EV. But it's not even being held to that standard.
• 1:43:34
  It's being actively disparaged. Like it's not even that we hold men to a
• 1:43:40
  high standard of looks and wealth and care and like being entertaining, being socially
• 1:43:45
  entertaining, which we do. It's not even that, it's that we go
• 1:43:49
  actively out of our way to paint the average man as some kind of selfish
• 1:43:58
  monstrosity, like like the getting in a relationship with the average man is like
• 1:44:04
  having a rash of boils on your ass for a woman. So it's not
• 1:44:09
  even like holding men women to a standard of a basic standard of companionship.
• 1:44:14
  It's literally attempting to destroy the desirability of men as companions entirely. It's just
• 1:44:23
  it just blows my mind. It just just blows my freaking mind. She
• 1:44:26
  had that gift with the guy with his mind being blown that that's me right
• 1:44:29
  now, blown mind blown? All right, all right, okay, I
• 1:44:32
  gotta we gotta wrap it up. I gotta go. Yes, so like,
• 1:44:36
  let's let's do the last things. I'm sorry it's so abrupt, but
• 1:44:41
  I'm not gonna be Yeah, I gonna be mad at me, I know
• 1:44:44
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