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- 0:48Speaker 1: hol Grin and Hugh Millin.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Here's chucking bun.
- 0:54Speaker 3: Oh, good morning, and welcome into this historic edition on
- 0:58Speaker 3: Monday Morning Quarterback right here on Chucking Back in the mornings.
- 1:02Speaker 2: That's right.
- 1:02Speaker 3: You woke up this morning, your favorite football team, world
- 1:07Speaker 3: champions of the National Football League. You woke up this
- 1:10Speaker 3: morning and you had your normal blueberry.
- 1:13Speaker 2: Muffin breakfast, and guess what it was?
- 1:17Speaker 3: A Super Bowl champion blueberry muffin breakfast is what it was.
- 1:21Speaker 2: It wasn't just your run of the mill. That wasn't
- 1:23Speaker 2: just butter.
- 1:24Speaker 3: That was super butter that you put on your muffin
- 1:27Speaker 3: here this morning. It's just that kind of morning, and
- 1:30Speaker 3: we welcome you into the radio show. I hope you
- 1:33Speaker 3: have soaked it all up, and I hope that you
- 1:35Speaker 3: are ready for more because the celebration continues here in Seattle,
- 1:40Speaker 3: and I think it's indefinite. Joining us now to discuss
- 1:44Speaker 3: last night's twenty nine thirteen win over the New England Patriots.
- 1:49Speaker 3: You've known him for years, You've loved him for years.
- 1:52Speaker 3: He is our QB one.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Former NFL quarterback, former.
- 1:55Speaker 3: You dub quarterback, and our top analysts around these here
- 1:59Speaker 3: part Hugh Millin is with us.
- 2:01Speaker 2: To talk some Super Bowl. Good morning you. It's a
- 2:04Speaker 2: great morning. What a day, what a what an experience,
- 2:08Speaker 2: what a feeling. Just just couldn't be more delighted for
- 2:13Speaker 2: everybody involved. I mean, if the math works that there's
- 2:17Speaker 2: one hundred and forty four seasons of major professional sports
- 2:22Speaker 2: and that's the third title for Seattle and so these
- 2:27Speaker 2: these are rare. These are rare for any city, they're
- 2:29Speaker 2: rare for us. And you know, I think I think
- 2:34Speaker 2: the reason why Seattle has such great fans. I do think,
- 2:37Speaker 2: you know, I've lived in the four corners of the country.
- 2:40Speaker 2: I do think that there's a West Coast or East
- 2:43Speaker 2: Coast bias, however you want to describe it. And then
- 2:47Speaker 2: on the West Coast, I think there's a Pacific Northwest
- 2:50Speaker 2: anti bias. I'm probably screwing up the description, but I
- 2:54Speaker 2: think that we feel, you know, up up on the
- 2:57Speaker 2: Northwest sometimes kind of forgot and and that's why we
- 3:01Speaker 2: were such great fans. And it's just such a fun
- 3:06Speaker 2: team to root for. You know, we connect with these teams. Uh,
- 3:09Speaker 2: we'll talk about how likable they are and and and
- 3:12Speaker 2: you know, just the the degree to which Mike McDonald
- 3:18Speaker 2: took Josh McDonnell. Josh McDaniels was on the staff on
- 3:22Speaker 2: the New England Patriots for every single Super Bowl win
- 3:26Speaker 2: that the Patriots have. He's got six Super Bowl rings.
- 3:31Speaker 2: And Mike McDonald just absolutely I mean, took him out
- 3:35Speaker 2: to the shed, just took him to school and and
- 3:39Speaker 2: you know, and we'll talk about the fourth quarter how
- 3:41Speaker 2: that kind of disintegrated what could have been a historic
- 3:47Speaker 2: defensive night. But we all know how it played out.
- 3:50Speaker 2: Couldn't be more delighted for the team, happy for the team,
- 3:53Speaker 2: proud of the team, happy for the twelves. Man, what
- 3:55Speaker 2: a night, What a night.
- 3:56Speaker 3: Indeed, Hugh Mellan is with us, and uh yeah, I
- 3:59Speaker 3: mean normally I just ask an open ended question as
- 4:03Speaker 3: we begin our analysis with you and let you go
- 4:07Speaker 3: wherever you want to go. And so I'm certainly not
- 4:10Speaker 3: going to change that script here. So where does it begin?
- 4:14Speaker 3: And maybe it's something you know, granular about the game
- 4:18Speaker 3: last night, or maybe it's something just you know, macro
- 4:21Speaker 3: about the entire way this thing's operating. I'm curious to
- 4:24Speaker 3: see where your analysis begins today.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Well, I think that my thought is what I thought
- 4:30Speaker 2: after three quarters when the Seahawks were up twelve to nothing,
- 4:35Speaker 2: and you know, we're got a big party and we're
- 4:37Speaker 2: all just going we are laser focused on the first
- 4:40Speaker 2: shutout in Super Bowl history. You know, at that juncture,
- 4:45Speaker 2: Drake May had sixty yards passing. Obviously he's on a
- 4:49Speaker 2: pace for eighty yards. This is the guy who was
- 4:51Speaker 2: the runner up in the for the MVP. Are you
- 4:54Speaker 2: kidding me? The seventy eight yard They had seventy eight
- 4:59Speaker 2: yards of total offense. I mean they're on a pace
- 5:04Speaker 2: to get to have one hundred and four yards for
- 5:06Speaker 2: the whole game. And and so you know, now May
- 5:12Speaker 2: ends up having you know, goes nineteen to twenty five
- 5:14Speaker 2: or two hundred and thirty five yards in just the
- 5:16Speaker 2: fourth quarter. And we know all the circumstances. But I
- 5:20Speaker 2: think just the degree to what you know, watching the tape,
- 5:24Speaker 2: the thought about the Legion of Boom. When I studied
- 5:26Speaker 2: the Legion of Boom. You know, they they played that
- 5:29Speaker 2: cover three and they had in my opinion, they had
- 5:33Speaker 2: better players. They just you know, things were more simple.
- 5:38Speaker 2: This defense has great players, I don't think quite to
- 5:42Speaker 2: the level of the Legion of Boom, but they they
- 5:46Speaker 2: play a more complicated defense. They play more tied together.
- 5:52Speaker 2: They you know, you know, last night Mike McDonald, he
- 5:56Speaker 2: he pulled out here. They're talking about how Seattle can
- 6:00Speaker 2: get the pressure with the four man rush. And you
- 6:03Speaker 2: know what, the of the six acts, five of them
- 6:07Speaker 2: were just a four man rush. But they they brought
- 6:12Speaker 2: a dB on ten plays and the Patriots, Drake May
- 6:16Speaker 2: was five to ten twenty two yards an interception of
- 6:19Speaker 2: sack passerrating US of seventeen. If you just drop back
- 6:24Speaker 2: and throw it into the stands, you're passer rating is
- 6:29Speaker 2: thirty nine point six. So, I mean, just little you
- 6:31Speaker 2: talk about granularity. You know, they just dialed up blitzes
- 6:35Speaker 2: like we haven't seen and Josh mccannals didn't have an
- 6:39Speaker 2: answer and then he'd back off into zones and a
- 6:41Speaker 2: variety of zones. And so there is a sophistication tied
- 6:47Speaker 2: together component when they play when they play z own defense,
- 6:51Speaker 2: I mean, there's so much detail about it, but if
- 6:54Speaker 2: I try and summarize it, they're showing you a lot
- 6:57Speaker 2: of unusual stuff there they uh, and then they put
- 7:02Speaker 2: the players in the right position and uh. Sometimes I
- 7:06Speaker 2: freeze the tape and I and I'm and I'm going,
- 7:08Speaker 2: what what's what is dra Drake May looking at uh?
- 7:12Speaker 2: Uh and he's got there's nothing. Yeah, you know, they're
- 7:15Speaker 2: just perfectly they're they're they're perfectly positioned in zone defense.
- 7:21Speaker 2: So I don't know, it's it's a really uh complicated defense,
- 7:26Speaker 2: and it's so taught, it's taught so brilliantly and obviously
- 7:30Speaker 2: executed brilliantly as well.
- 7:32Speaker 4: You, I mean, I want you to go a little
- 7:33Speaker 4: further on that, just because I mean, you're saying super complicated.
- 7:36Speaker 4: What about it makes it super complic caause I mean,
- 7:39Speaker 4: is it timing of when they're sending blitzes? Is it
- 7:41Speaker 4: just being literally down to the foot in the exact
- 7:44Speaker 4: place where you need to be, or is there is
- 7:47Speaker 4: it that coaching part that you're talking about where he's saying, hey, now,
- 7:51Speaker 4: if this is happening, then this is the right place
- 7:53Speaker 4: to be versus if this is happening, then this is
- 7:56Speaker 4: the right place to be. And what is it that
- 7:57Speaker 4: makes it so complicated?
- 7:59Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 7:59Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So let's take uh, let's take the
- 8:01Speaker 2: second sack. Uh and and and this was the NFL
- 8:06Speaker 2: had exactly three point hs seconds. This is Witherspoon coming up. Witherspoon.
- 8:10Speaker 2: It's a trips to Seattle's perspective, it's trips left. And
- 8:15Speaker 2: Witherspoon is not over the inside the inside guy at
- 8:19Speaker 2: the three. He's over the middle guy of three. He's
- 8:22Speaker 2: got a long way to go to the quarterback. And
- 8:26Speaker 2: and here the the Seahawks show a six guys up
- 8:30Speaker 2: and that's not kaled in Witherspoon. Witherspoon is again he's
- 8:33Speaker 2: over not number three, which would be close to the ball,
- 8:36Speaker 2: he's over number two and off six yards and and
- 8:40Speaker 2: so if you just calculate what's the shortest distance, are
- 8:43Speaker 2: two points A to B, Like, it's a long way
- 8:45Speaker 2: to go, But there's six guys up and on the
- 8:49Speaker 2: line scrimmage. You got Ernest Jones. He backs out of there,
- 8:53Speaker 2: and then now they run a stunt inside and uh,
- 8:59Speaker 2: and so the guard uh, he gets pulled inside, the
- 9:01Speaker 2: tackle pulls out and here comes Witherspoon from a long
- 9:05Speaker 2: way away. But he's he's got the turbo button. He
- 9:07Speaker 2: just shot out of a cannon. And and make Drake
- 9:12Speaker 2: May could have got rid of the ball. Three point
- 9:14Speaker 2: zero seconds is plenty of time. The average uh throwing
- 9:17Speaker 2: the balls under three seconds. But Seattle's they're playing five
- 9:21Speaker 2: guys in zone. I mean, that is crazy to do that.
- 9:25Speaker 2: And they have a cloud to the weak side. Cloud
- 9:28Speaker 2: means the corner is in the flat, the safety's over
- 9:31Speaker 2: the top to to May's left side. They're playing zone
- 9:34Speaker 2: with just five guys Like that doesn't make sense if
- 9:36Speaker 2: you drew up on the whiteboard. But it's like all
- 9:39Speaker 2: the guys know where they are. Ernest Jones, he pops off.
- 9:44Speaker 2: He's defending the right guy. And and so now the
- 9:48Speaker 2: combination of a very confusing front, you know, backing out
- 9:54Speaker 2: running a cup, a twist to get just the right
- 9:58Speaker 2: action by the offense of line to open up the
- 10:01Speaker 2: b gap between the gardener tackle, and here comes with Uspoon. Yeah,
- 10:05Speaker 2: it's more disguised because he's coming from a long way,
- 10:08Speaker 2: but he has the athleticism, he has the tenacity to
- 10:11Speaker 2: hit that thing like a meteor, like a lightning bolt
- 10:15Speaker 2: coming in and then boom, he just swallows up Drake
- 10:18Speaker 2: May for a big sack. So you know that's one play.
- 10:22Speaker 2: What do you want him to go through? Like thirty seven?
- 10:24Speaker 2: I mean, I'm here, you know, but like that's it's
- 10:28Speaker 2: just like on a play by play basis, you are
- 10:30Speaker 2: just putting the screws on these guys, on Drake May
- 10:34Speaker 2: and on and on. Josh McDaniel. Josh McDaniel is like
- 10:39Speaker 2: like after that game is like, I don't even want
- 10:42Speaker 2: him as a GA at Washington for the Huskies. No, no, no,
- 10:48Speaker 2: we can get another GA. GA is a graduate assistant, unpaid,
- 10:51Speaker 2: you know, like it's like crazy.
- 10:55Speaker 3: HEU Melon his with us our QB one Monday Morning
- 10:58Speaker 3: Quarterback Session twenty nine. The Seahawks win the Super Bowl
- 11:02Speaker 3: over the New England Patriots and defensively dominated at least
- 11:07Speaker 3: through three quarters, but for the most part throughout the
- 11:11Speaker 3: entire game. And Chris Collins said something that I mentioned
- 11:15Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago. I don't know if there's
- 11:17Speaker 3: one thing more valuable to any win in the NFL
- 11:22Speaker 3: than that statement that you put pressure. If you can
- 11:25Speaker 3: get pressure with four man, you're probably gonna win that
- 11:28Speaker 3: game that day.
- 11:29Speaker 2: That's just how valuable it is.
- 11:30Speaker 3: And yet I would ask you somebody that watched the
- 11:34Speaker 3: All twenty two last night in preparation for today, it
- 11:37Speaker 3: just felt to me like Drake May could not find
- 11:39Speaker 3: anybody open in the secondary.
- 11:41Speaker 2: So maybe it was the secondary that set the tone.
- 11:45Speaker 2: Or do you still give the credit to the pass
- 11:47Speaker 2: rush up front? Chuck. That's a great theme, you know.
- 11:49Speaker 2: That's one of my themes in the study is is yeah, okay,
- 11:54Speaker 2: the first the sacon you rush four, but the sack
- 11:57Speaker 2: happened at four point four seconds. That's an eternity. Yeah, uh,
- 12:01Speaker 2: And and so you had to have Ernest Jones covering
- 12:06Speaker 2: the tight end on what's called this a stick route,
- 12:10Speaker 2: and you know, so it's it's may he's not going
- 12:13Speaker 2: to his right guy. Now he's looking at other guys.
- 12:14Speaker 2: Everybody's covered. There's uh uh, the the one where Riley
- 12:20Speaker 2: Mills had uh uh, the sack they just which we
- 12:26Speaker 2: said the left guard for the Patriots is the worst
- 12:28Speaker 2: guy on their team. Sorry to be so blunt. I'm
- 12:30Speaker 2: just trying to get through this. And you know, but
- 12:32Speaker 2: they're playing they played man and man on that well,
- 12:34Speaker 2: there's there's a little banjo which is an in in
- 12:37Speaker 2: and out man concept between uh, Julian Love and Drake Thomas.
- 12:41Speaker 2: You know, just little nuances of like it's man and man.
- 12:44Speaker 2: There's there's nobody there. You know, he held the ball
- 12:48Speaker 2: three point two seconds. There's a play where the NFL
- 12:52Speaker 2: had it at five point zero seconds on a sack,
- 12:55Speaker 2: just a four man rush. I'm looking, you know, uh uh.
- 13:00Speaker 2: The pages come out on what's called the trips left
- 13:02Speaker 2: nub nub tight end means to the right.
- 13:05Speaker 1: Uh.
- 13:05Speaker 2: There's a tight end in line with the tackle. So
- 13:09Speaker 2: the Seahawks they push, they push their coverage over to
- 13:12Speaker 2: the trips away from the nub and so they get
- 13:16Speaker 2: a big flow and they clouded over to Rek Wooling.
- 13:21Speaker 2: And there's a point when I freeze the tape. When
- 13:25Speaker 2: when when Drake May hit his back foot and took
- 13:29Speaker 2: his first hitch because he's trying to run a play
- 13:32Speaker 2: called a dagger dagger left where the widest receiver runs
- 13:35Speaker 2: a deep ind at about seventeen yards. And I'm looking
- 13:39Speaker 2: at what Drake May was saying. Right there, I stopped
- 13:41Speaker 2: the tape on his first hitch. That's when the ball
- 13:43Speaker 2: should be coming out. Well, the Seahawks have pushed the
- 13:47Speaker 2: receivers to the trip side. They're clouding, which is requilling
- 13:51Speaker 2: again redirecting the number one receiver and meaning the widest receiver.
- 13:59Speaker 2: And now at the junk. The ball was on the
- 14:02Speaker 2: twenty seven yard line, and both Greek Wollen and he's
- 14:08Speaker 2: the he's what's called the flat defender to the outside,
- 14:10Speaker 2: and nick Emon Worry is that what's called the curl
- 14:13Speaker 2: defender the next zone in towards the ball. The flat
- 14:17Speaker 2: and the curl. Both Greek Wollen and uh nick Em
- 14:22Speaker 2: and Worry are at the exactly the thirty seven yard line.
- 14:25Speaker 2: They both were treated. They're at the same depth. They're
- 14:28Speaker 2: at ten yards and the spacing of them is dead
- 14:31Speaker 2: perfect to stop the dagger, dead perfect where Emon Warri's
- 14:37Speaker 2: on the inside. And by the way you watch him
- 14:38Speaker 2: backpedal and then turn and crossover to get to that spot.
- 14:43Speaker 2: You know. So now you're if you're Drake May, you
- 14:45Speaker 2: got nick nick em and Worry. We've talked for years
- 14:49Speaker 2: about him one hundred percentile on the height forty times
- 14:52Speaker 2: and Armleke the ninety nine percent and vertical and uh
- 14:56Speaker 2: that's Greek Wolan nick Emon Worry. In the relative as
- 15:00Speaker 2: under score that the the NFL subscribes to Nick m
- 15:03Speaker 2: and Worry is a ten point zero. He's a perfect ten.
- 15:06Speaker 2: He's like Oga Corbett in his In the the RIS
- 15:10Speaker 2: database goes back to nineteen eighty seven, Nick Ammin Worrey
- 15:13Speaker 2: has the number one vertical, the number one long jump
- 15:16Speaker 2: uh four three eight forty. I gotta, I don't know
- 15:19Speaker 2: where that ranks, but I know it's high. I'm not positives.
- 15:21Speaker 2: Number one is not is number one in terms of
- 15:24Speaker 2: his his reps on the bench. So like he's a big, long, fast,
- 15:30Speaker 2: explosive strong like and and so you're Drake May and
- 15:34Speaker 2: you're going those cats are freaks out there. You want
- 15:37Speaker 2: me to throw into that? Yeah, I mean, you know, man.
- 15:41Speaker 5: So so uh it's you know, so he holds about
- 15:45Speaker 5: five seconds, you get a construct what you know, you
- 15:48Speaker 5: might call it a constriction sacks where all four guys
- 15:51Speaker 5: just squeeze the pocket and just like a freaking big
- 15:54Speaker 5: old constrictor.
- 15:54Speaker 2: I mean, just squeeze the life out of him. So so, yeah,
- 15:57Speaker 2: it's not just the four man rush. It's that in
- 16:00Speaker 2: each and every case. And I got more of on
- 16:02Speaker 2: the notes. But what's the takeaway? The takeaway is that, yeah,
- 16:05Speaker 2: you're getting sacks. I mean, uh, but several of these
- 16:12Speaker 2: are there's plenty of time to throw. It's that the
- 16:15Speaker 2: Seahawks have the first and usually the second guy covered,
- 16:20Speaker 2: and so May has nowhere to go with the ball.
- 16:23Speaker 4: So just I mean to sum that up, I mean,
- 16:27Speaker 4: would you say, yesterday they almost broke a record for sacks, right,
- 16:31Speaker 4: I mean, I guess they tied it with six because
- 16:32Speaker 4: they took that.
- 16:33Speaker 2: They broke a record for coverage.
- 16:34Speaker 4: Yeah, did you so you would say that it was
- 16:38Speaker 4: those sacks were more on the hands of well, there
- 16:40Speaker 4: was nowhere to throw it, because I was thinking the
- 16:42Speaker 4: same thing to some degree of man, he's got to
- 16:44Speaker 4: get rid of that. I mean there was a couple
- 16:46Speaker 4: of those most certainly who covered sacks. Would you say
- 16:48Speaker 4: lion's share of more?
- 16:51Speaker 2: Well, I think that. I think Derek Hall had a
- 16:54Speaker 2: relatively fast you know, it's a two point eight seconds set,
- 17:00Speaker 2: but but that was you know that the movement was
- 17:03Speaker 2: caused by Leonard Williams because he just stoned the right guard,
- 17:06Speaker 2: I mean, right up the field, and May's got to
- 17:08Speaker 2: get up and get up in the pocket. And and
- 17:11Speaker 2: Derek Hall, he you know, he could have been up
- 17:14Speaker 2: the field, but he senses a win. I didn't think
- 17:18Speaker 2: it was a stunt, but he folds back into the middle,
- 17:22Speaker 2: apparently in reaction and awareness that okay, here comes the
- 17:26Speaker 2: quarterback up the pocket. He now folds back to the inside.
- 17:29Speaker 2: It looks like a stunt. I don't think it was
- 17:31Speaker 2: a stunt, but any event, you know, that was two
- 17:33Speaker 2: point eight seconds. But but that's a team sack. You know,
- 17:37Speaker 2: Derek Hall gets the sack. That was the that was
- 17:39Speaker 2: the punch out right, the fumble and and that Murphy got.
- 17:44Speaker 2: But you know, Larryn Williams, He's not gonna end up
- 17:47Speaker 2: in the stat sheet about it, but uh yeah, I would.
- 17:50Speaker 2: But but in looking at these uh yeah yeah, multiple
- 17:55Speaker 2: sacks where the quarterback held the ball over four seconds.
- 17:59Speaker 2: So so I think it's I think what Mike McDonald
- 18:02Speaker 2: if you asked him, I'd say it as a compliment
- 18:05Speaker 2: that that one begets the other, you know, and and
- 18:09Speaker 2: so you can't have one without the other.
- 18:11Speaker 3: Well maybe it was a cop out. Greg sort of
- 18:14Speaker 3: suggested it. I don't think he's terribly terribly wrong about
- 18:18Speaker 3: ken Walker had a really good game last night, but
- 18:20Speaker 3: it kind of felt like everybody there knew the defense
- 18:23Speaker 3: won that game. But it was easier to pick the
- 18:26Speaker 3: running back who had one hundred and sixty yards from scrimmage.
- 18:30Speaker 3: If Hugh Millan would have had to have picked one
- 18:33Speaker 3: standout from the defense last night to give the MVP.
- 18:36Speaker 2: Two, who would you have given it to? That hurts
- 18:38Speaker 2: well frequently. I mean I thought that Cam Chancell was
- 18:42Speaker 2: the MVP of the of the last Super Bowl. Yeah,
- 18:45Speaker 2: they gave it to Malcolm Smith because you know, for
- 18:48Speaker 2: a defensive guy to get it, you got you got
- 18:50Speaker 2: to you gotta pad the stats, right, There's got to
- 18:53Speaker 2: be something he had to pick six, And I think
- 18:55Speaker 2: maybe he was involved in a fumble, force fumble or whatever.
- 18:59Speaker 2: So so that it's easy to say, okay, that's the highlighted.
- 19:05Speaker 2: I'm really impressed with with Devin Witherspoon, how he played
- 19:10Speaker 2: and Nickel and and the Dime. He played a lot
- 19:13Speaker 2: inside because Seattle was able to go to Dime and
- 19:16Speaker 2: he drops inside. So so I mean the you know
- 19:20Speaker 2: or uh, poor Drake may you know when they go
- 19:23Speaker 2: to when Seattle goes to dime, they have the the
- 19:28Speaker 2: four the four deep defense and a lot of the
- 19:32Speaker 2: coverages they want to play. Put a real stress on
- 19:35Speaker 2: the flat defenders. They got to cover a lot of grounds.
- 19:38Speaker 2: If you're playing four deep and three under, well those
- 19:41Speaker 2: those three under guys can't spot drop. They have to match.
- 19:44Speaker 2: They have to match to the flat because otherwise they're
- 19:46Speaker 2: too big a holes inside and and depending on what
- 19:50Speaker 2: hash you are on, they are often they have a
- 19:52Speaker 2: lot of space to run to and uh and and
- 19:56Speaker 2: have to make tackles and and so they're asking a
- 19:58Speaker 2: lot of Witherspoon. He was he was phenomenal. So maybe Witherspoon. Yeah,
- 20:03Speaker 2: maybe Derek Hall because as I said, you know, the
- 20:06Speaker 2: uh he brought the violence. Yeah, yeah, the violence and
- 20:09Speaker 2: getting a couple of sacks and forcing them fumble. But
- 20:13Speaker 2: I would say this Ernest Jones watching the tape, I didn't.
- 20:16Speaker 2: I don't think it hit me watching it live. But
- 20:19Speaker 2: Ernest Jones had an answer answer to the test. He
- 20:23Speaker 2: had all he had, all the question. I mean, he
- 20:24Speaker 2: was just he he was hitting the gap. He had
- 20:28Speaker 2: a great feel in there, in there and they're uh
- 20:32Speaker 2: stopping the run. I mean Patriot DB's had had forty
- 20:37Speaker 2: two yards and uh yards rushing total. I think on
- 20:43Speaker 2: thirteen rushes maybe check me on that, but forty two
- 20:47Speaker 2: yards total from running backs that they are two They're
- 20:51Speaker 2: only runs of any consequence were the uh they had
- 20:56Speaker 2: a nine yard toss where they had west Over, our
- 20:58Speaker 2: buddy west Over from Misquah and then Mountsaille High School
- 21:06Speaker 2: and the Washington Huskies. Their best run of the day
- 21:10Speaker 2: was following west Over on a toss. They get nine
- 21:12Speaker 2: yards in that third quarter. I don't know why it
- 21:14Speaker 2: took them that long, and then they had a fly
- 21:16Speaker 2: sweep for seven yards. All the rest when they tried
- 21:19Speaker 2: to run the middle the French seven and Ernest Jones
- 21:23Speaker 2: was was just on it. I mean he didn't take
- 21:26Speaker 2: a false step the whole damn night.
- 21:29Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, Hugh Millan is with us our
- 21:32Speaker 3: Monday Morning Quarterback. We've got to talk about the offense
- 21:35Speaker 3: and the way Ken Walker finished out this game.
- 21:38Speaker 2: This season for the Seahawks, they are world champs.
- 21:42Speaker 3: They wont twenty nine to thirteen over the New England Patriots,
- 21:45Speaker 3: and all of the Pacific Northwest is celebrating today. We'll
- 21:49Speaker 3: continue the conversation with Hugh next Monday Morning Quarterback only
- 21:53Speaker 3: on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
- 21:57Speaker 6: He's had his own forty four quarterback, second eleven three
- 22:01Speaker 6: in the guard. Wine's up one cast down in the
- 22:03Speaker 6: middle of a tenner second half, a pretty odd line
- 22:06Speaker 6: coming up Nidal the forty Look the return light here.
- 22:08Speaker 6: Now it's Julia Robbin's Hound of Umb coming here sideline
- 22:12Speaker 6: going into Patriot territory, and he's not cut of UN's
- 22:16Speaker 6: about the thirty two. It's the second turnover by the
- 22:20Speaker 6: second year Patriot quarterback. Great name and another great star
- 22:26Speaker 6: for Seattle teeth in Patriot territory here in the Super
- 22:30Speaker 6: Bowl sixteen.
- 22:36Speaker 3: That's where I wrote down Game OVA right there, right
- 22:40Speaker 3: there after that call from Kevin Harland on Westwood One
- 22:44Speaker 3: Seahawks when the Super Bowl twenty nine thirteen over the
- 22:48Speaker 3: New England Patriots. You've tuned in for analysis from Hugh
- 22:51Speaker 3: mellanire this morning. We'll get to Hugh in a second,
- 22:54Speaker 3: but I do want to let you know to go
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- 23:00Speaker 3: Greek casino. If you put down some bets. My guess
- 23:03Speaker 3: is you put it down on some Seahawks stuff. I
- 23:05Speaker 3: have a feeling that a lot of people cashing in
- 23:07Speaker 3: on some victories today.
- 23:08Speaker 4: Yeah, I guaranteed, and you might as well go collect
- 23:11Speaker 4: your cash and you might as well just put a
- 23:13Speaker 4: bet down for them to win it next year.
- 23:16Speaker 2: Light as well. I mean, not all of it, but
- 23:18Speaker 2: some of it.
- 23:19Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this point, you're playing with house money.
- 23:22Speaker 4: I think it's plus eight fifty, which is actually second,
- 23:24Speaker 4: which I don't understand altogether. The Rams are the number
- 23:27Speaker 4: one right now after the rain, Yeah, right after you guys. Hey,
- 23:30Speaker 4: how's how's vacation treating you?
- 23:32Speaker 1: Hey?
- 23:32Speaker 2: You really feel? Yeah? Exactly?
- 23:33Speaker 4: You got any stogies? Oh you guys didn't You didn't
- 23:36Speaker 4: celebrate last night?
- 23:37Speaker 2: That's right?
- 23:38Speaker 4: But cann you can go to DraftKings and put put
- 23:41Speaker 4: down some Ducats at plus eight fifty for the Seahawks
- 23:43Speaker 4: to repeat.
- 23:44Speaker 2: By the way, my prediction was twenty seven to thirteen
- 23:46Speaker 2: for this game. Pretty close. Yeah, it's pretty good.
- 23:48Speaker 3: Pretty close twenty nine thirteen. You mellinus with us here.
- 23:52Speaker 3: He even came close. He doesn't make predictions. But what
- 23:55Speaker 3: were his last words to us on Friday. I'll talk
- 23:58Speaker 3: to you on Monday and we'll be talking about a win.
- 24:01Speaker 2: How about that?
- 24:03Speaker 3: How about Millen putting the stamp on the week with
- 24:05Speaker 3: that statement on Friday.
- 24:07Speaker 2: Oh, that I picked this favorite in the Super Bowl
- 24:10Speaker 2: to win with no score. That's not going to make
- 24:14Speaker 2: the biggest Hall of Fame shot.
- 24:17Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about ken Walker. He was named MVP
- 24:20Speaker 3: and I get it, and he did. He played outstanding.
- 24:23Speaker 3: I think he sparked the offense certainly last night. But
- 24:26Speaker 3: what I heard, and I can't verify this, but this
- 24:29Speaker 3: is what I heard last night that he set a
- 24:31Speaker 3: record for most yards in a Super Bowl rushed outside
- 24:35Speaker 3: the tackles. So somebody kept that stat last night and
- 24:38Speaker 3: said that no one in Super Bowl history gained more
- 24:40Speaker 3: yards in a Super Bowl than what ken Walker did.
- 24:43Speaker 3: Last night outside the tackles and you know we've talked
- 24:46Speaker 3: about you know, the run the block, the zone blocking
- 24:50Speaker 3: scheme that was coming in here and this should be
- 24:52Speaker 3: perfect for ken Walker and it wasn't perfect. He did
- 24:55Speaker 3: not have a perfect season, but down toward the end
- 24:58Speaker 3: of the year, him hitting the out side Hugh was
- 25:01Speaker 3: just magic for him this year. So I don't know
- 25:04Speaker 3: if that just took him time to figure it out,
- 25:07Speaker 3: or or Clint Kubiak time to get him on the outside,
- 25:10Speaker 3: or what the case may be, but ken Walker has
- 25:13Speaker 3: turned into a demon off the edge.
- 25:15Speaker 2: Well he's got the bursts. So uh that that wide
- 25:18Speaker 2: zone you're you're you know his read he's looking at
- 25:21Speaker 2: the end man and and generally when they're running that
- 25:24Speaker 2: that's to the tight end side or the two tight
- 25:26Speaker 2: end side, he's looking if they're they hook that end. Uh,
- 25:30Speaker 2: then then he looks what it's the next guy in
- 25:34Speaker 2: the next block in If it's a three technique in
- 25:36Speaker 2: an overfront, you read you read that, and and the
- 25:40Speaker 2: way it's taught is hey, full full steps, don't shorten
- 25:44Speaker 2: your scride, make your SEVT decision after the third step,
- 25:47Speaker 2: make your cut on the fifth step. If you want
- 25:49Speaker 2: to go north, get north. If you want to bounce
- 25:52Speaker 2: it because you think you can get to the edge,
- 25:54Speaker 2: then go well, you have to have some bursts to
- 25:56Speaker 2: get to the edge to make it credible. And if
- 26:00Speaker 2: you don't have the burst, you're gonna you're gonna look
- 26:02Speaker 2: and say, you're gonna be more likely to run back inside.
- 26:04Speaker 2: So he's been able to get to the outside. They
- 26:07Speaker 2: on one of his best ones, they didn't stretch it.
- 26:10Speaker 2: They just tossed it to get him the ball in
- 26:12Speaker 2: his hands real quick. That and you know that takes
- 26:14Speaker 2: away some of the play acts and things you can do,
- 26:17Speaker 2: but it gets them just a tad faster out there
- 26:19Speaker 2: on the edge. And and and so uh yeah, the
- 26:24Speaker 2: first the first the first quarter, the first six running
- 26:29Speaker 2: plays were all outside zone. Now the Patriots have a
- 26:32Speaker 2: better defense. We talked during the week, Hey, if you
- 26:35Speaker 2: go back, if I simplificate, simplify it. I just say
- 26:38Speaker 2: against the forty nine ers, they went wanted to run
- 26:40Speaker 2: wide on the stretch. Against the Rams, they wanted to
- 26:42Speaker 2: run inside. Which will it be? I think logic we
- 26:46Speaker 2: were saying it dictates that with those deep, great defensive
- 26:49Speaker 2: tackles inside, Uh Williams and Barmore. I might have got,
- 26:55Speaker 2: isn't it, Williams Christian Barmore. Yeah, yeah, yeah that that
- 26:59Speaker 2: you know, maybe the better course is to try and
- 27:02Speaker 2: get outside. And so I I know, I was even
- 27:05Speaker 2: saying after the first quarter they haven't tried to run
- 27:07Speaker 2: inside one time. Now the first time they did it,
- 27:10Speaker 2: I thought they they ran inside well. And part of
- 27:13Speaker 2: it is they have changed the the style of running
- 27:17Speaker 2: for uh for uh uh Canine. He is aligning just
- 27:22Speaker 2: a half yard deeper than he was in some cases
- 27:26Speaker 2: is closer to a full yard. But his steps on
- 27:28Speaker 2: those those inside runs, he he there's a little bit
- 27:32Speaker 2: of a delay step where he he opens his hips
- 27:35Speaker 2: and shoulders as if he's running to the outside zone,
- 27:39Speaker 2: and then he closes his hips back and so that
- 27:42Speaker 2: they're parallel to the line of scrimmage, and and and
- 27:46Speaker 2: and he's got more distance from the line. And I
- 27:49Speaker 2: think what the Seahawks have discovered is that fits his
- 27:51Speaker 2: running style because he can come out he just kind
- 27:54Speaker 2: of surveys. It's a little bit of a Chris Collinsworth
- 27:57Speaker 2: nailed it. It's a Levy and Bell type of style.
- 27:59Speaker 2: We we've been talking about this for the last few
- 28:01Speaker 2: weeks that that he's deeper and then it allows everything
- 28:06Speaker 2: to see how is the defense flowing. Then when he
- 28:09Speaker 2: sees a crease, then he's got the burst and the
- 28:12Speaker 2: strength to get through. What I mean by strength, there's
- 28:15Speaker 2: a defensive lineman who may be coming off a block
- 28:18Speaker 2: and has a you know, a pretty good shot on him,
- 28:20Speaker 2: maybe a shoulder, uh, maybe you know, a good arm,
- 28:23Speaker 2: but he'll he'll run right through an arm tackle, right
- 28:25Speaker 2: through his tip bats because he's so strong. So and
- 28:28Speaker 2: then he's got the burst in the second layer. So uh,
- 28:31Speaker 2: you know, in the screen pass, how big was the
- 28:33Speaker 2: screen pass on that play? Beautifully designed jas N in
- 28:36Speaker 2: the backfield, you know, run him on a seam rout
- 28:39Speaker 2: that I thought when I saw it, I'll go, oh
- 28:41Speaker 2: my god, like like it looked like he's throw it
- 28:44Speaker 2: to jays N on the seam to the left. But
- 28:46Speaker 2: but they had designed that to be window dressing. And
- 28:49Speaker 2: they get the instead of JSN out of the backfield
- 28:52Speaker 2: up the left seam, they're throwing the screen to the right,
- 28:55Speaker 2: and you know, and and Canaine made a great initial
- 28:58Speaker 2: move to make a guy misk up the sideline make
- 29:00Speaker 2: some yards. So yeah, the outside was uh there's one
- 29:05Speaker 2: outside run he had the Is it the thirty Yardah,
- 29:08Speaker 2: it was the thirty yard er, not the twenty nine
- 29:10Speaker 2: because back to back there. But they they did a
- 29:13Speaker 2: pin and poll where they're pulling and they had Gray's
- 29:16Speaker 2: abel and he's trying to pull out in front and
- 29:20Speaker 2: uh he he got pushed back. It was just a
- 29:22Speaker 2: difficult angle for any lineman and Canine had to bow
- 29:27Speaker 2: back behind the line of scrimamage lose ground. At that point,
- 29:30Speaker 2: if you said freeze, who what what running back is
- 29:34Speaker 2: gonna manufacture anything out of this? And you're like, oh no,
- 29:38Speaker 2: this is already. This is the onset of the play.
- 29:41Speaker 2: This is a disaster, like we're running away back to
- 29:44Speaker 2: our own goal line. But he bows around that block
- 29:47Speaker 2: and has the burst to go up the sideline. Make
- 29:49Speaker 2: guys miss how he turned that into a thirty yard er?
- 29:52Speaker 2: You know? Is I guess one of the reason. That's
- 29:54Speaker 2: how you get an MVP, a Super Bowl MVP. And
- 29:56Speaker 2: then you know, when you're sixty, they can mark you
- 29:58Speaker 2: out of a little cradle on the sideline, you know,
- 30:01Speaker 2: like a magic show like they did. Do you see
- 30:03Speaker 2: all those guys popping out there like rabbits out of
- 30:05Speaker 2: a hat on the MVPs. That was kind of cool.
- 30:08Speaker 2: So CA nine gets to do that in like forty years.
- 30:10Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, is.
- 30:13Speaker 4: He a guy that you want him to sign back?
- 30:15Speaker 4: I mean, right now, Zach Charboney is going to be
- 30:18Speaker 4: recovering from an ACL. I don't think that anybody has
- 30:22Speaker 4: crazy high hopes for George Halani and so I mean,
- 30:25Speaker 4: is this kind of a hey, go get this guy back,
- 30:28Speaker 4: considering he has the ability to go out and test
- 30:30Speaker 4: free agency.
- 30:32Speaker 2: Well, the salary CAP's going up to three hundred million,
- 30:34Speaker 2: so the percentage of us the cap that will be
- 30:39Speaker 2: eating up. I think the franchise tag is fourteen million.
- 30:42Speaker 2: That's an option for you that seems like it would
- 30:45Speaker 2: be money well spent. You guys know me, I have
- 30:48Speaker 2: never wavered on my assessment of Cannine. I've said that
- 30:53Speaker 2: that there's only ten positions in the draft separating he
- 30:57Speaker 2: and Sharbonnay. I believe it is they're both second rounders.
- 31:02Speaker 2: But to me, it's like one's a first rounder and
- 31:05Speaker 2: one's a fourth rounder. And so I think he's significantly
- 31:08Speaker 2: better than anybody they've had back there for a long time.
- 31:12Speaker 2: And you know that's just my eyes and and so
- 31:17Speaker 2: you know, you know, we talked, and I know we
- 31:20Speaker 2: got to get the other stuff. But my final thought
- 31:22Speaker 2: on on Canine for this hour is after the injury
- 31:26Speaker 2: against the forty nine ers, we break up the discussion. Hey, listen,
- 31:30Speaker 2: nobody wanted Sharbonna to get hurt, not on the human
- 31:33Speaker 2: side for Zach, not on the the depth part for
- 31:36Speaker 2: the Seahawks. But there is a there is a storyline
- 31:40Speaker 2: that is very likely to be written where the Seahawks
- 31:43Speaker 2: they are a better football team because Zach Sharbonnay got hurt.
- 31:47Speaker 2: That sounds uh, that sounds cruel. I hope you heard
- 31:50Speaker 2: the first part of that comment, but that the model
- 31:54Speaker 2: was that Canine. I grew up in an era where
- 31:57Speaker 2: they always said the best running backs they get better
- 31:59Speaker 2: is the gets on. They if they have the stamina,
- 32:04Speaker 2: they their eyes, they adjust to the game, they see
- 32:07Speaker 2: how the defense is flowing, and they just make better decisions.
- 32:10Speaker 2: They run through the defense getting tired. They're strong, they're
- 32:13Speaker 2: running through tackles. That was a thing for decades and
- 32:16Speaker 2: decades and somehow it's fallen away. And so what happened
- 32:20Speaker 2: when Sharbonnay got hurt is we said, hey, we're gonna
- 32:24Speaker 2: thrust ourselves in the way back machine. We're going and
- 32:26Speaker 2: it's not forty yards forty years. You just go back
- 32:29Speaker 2: to twenty years when Shawn Alexander and Ladanian Tomlinson were
- 32:33Speaker 2: running like. He's going to be a work horse canine.
- 32:36Speaker 2: He's gonna be a work cards in an old school
- 32:38Speaker 2: kind of way, and it might be the better for
- 32:40Speaker 2: the Seahawks, may be the better for it. And I
- 32:43Speaker 2: think that's how it played out, you know. I just
- 32:47Speaker 2: think that that he was able to do more carrying
- 32:51Speaker 2: all the load than the load would have been with him,
- 32:54Speaker 2: and Sharbaday can't prove it, can't falsify it. It's just
- 32:56Speaker 2: a thought, but you know, it's something to reflect on.
- 32:59Speaker 2: Now that we've seen what can In has been able
- 33:02Speaker 2: to do since that injury.
- 33:04Speaker 3: We have a lot more to discuss. We're gonna get
- 33:06Speaker 3: as much in as we possibly can. Hugh Millan is
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- 34:39Speaker 3: All right, Hugh, we got a lot more to dive
- 34:42Speaker 3: into here. I mean that play we just heard from
- 34:45Speaker 3: Kevin Harley was a huge play. I mean the love interception.
- 34:50Speaker 3: I mean they were big plays all game long. To
- 34:52Speaker 3: Hugh Millan, who loves breaking down plays, what was the
- 34:56Speaker 3: play of the game.
- 34:57Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to try and get a couple things
- 35:00Speaker 2: in here real quick. Okay, So the the audio we
- 35:02Speaker 2: just heard the Nuosa touchdown, pretty garden variety. Uh five
- 35:07Speaker 2: man zone pressure. So to Drake May's right, you're gonna
- 35:12Speaker 2: bring Ernest Jones in to eat up the running backs block,
- 35:16Speaker 2: and then you're gonna bring Witherspoon again right through the
- 35:19Speaker 2: b gap uh uh and and you you force the
- 35:23Speaker 2: fumble and then you drop off boy Mafi on the
- 35:26Speaker 2: other side. So that's five. You're gonna you're gonna rush five.
- 35:30Speaker 2: You're gonna play zone with six. During the week we
- 35:32Speaker 2: talked about, Hey, the Patriots they like to do a
- 35:36Speaker 2: zone blitz with three deep and three under. The Seahawks
- 35:39Speaker 2: like to do a hybrid uh uh two. Whether it's
- 35:43Speaker 2: two deeper, whether it's four deep, it depends on the
- 35:47Speaker 2: what is it called a catch or Palm's technique where
- 35:50Speaker 2: the corners and and the safeties are looking at the
- 35:52Speaker 2: release of number two. That's the slot. If they're in
- 35:56Speaker 2: the flat, the corners trigger down, safeties go over the top.
- 35:59Speaker 2: If if their their vertical they drop off. It's forty
- 36:02Speaker 2: two hundred. So it's a little bit of a hybrid
- 36:05Speaker 2: on on that play. That's an example. So they they
- 36:08Speaker 2: have that zone blitz. Do you remember when when Jackson
- 36:12Speaker 2: Smith and Jigbu caught that slant route to the left
- 36:15Speaker 2: and he was like wide open and then he kind
- 36:17Speaker 2: of dove at the feet of the safety for like
- 36:20Speaker 2: a nice sixteen yard game. Remember that in the game? Yeah, man, man, yeah,
- 36:25Speaker 2: on that play, that was the Patriots bringing five under
- 36:28Speaker 2: three deep three under. I see we're bringing five three
- 36:31Speaker 2: D three under. That's the defense. I said, it's easier
- 36:34Speaker 2: for a quarterback to hit Seattle gets boomed, just shred it.
- 36:37Speaker 2: There's too many open holes. Even to the point when
- 36:40Speaker 2: I coached high school, I go to our defensive coordinator,
- 36:42Speaker 2: I say, hey, I think it's it's a lot harder
- 36:45Speaker 2: in a quarterback when you do that that two deep
- 36:49Speaker 2: zone pressure as opposed to three D three under. Anyways,
- 36:53Speaker 2: back to that, I think the contrast was there the
- 36:57Speaker 2: Seattle's when when they bring five man pressure and the
- 37:01Speaker 2: coverage they play behind it. It caused the quarterback to
- 37:05Speaker 2: try and hold the ball more. They get they hit
- 37:07Speaker 2: on the arm by Witherspoon and you get to pick six.
- 37:11Speaker 2: The Patriots they run a five man's oone pressure, They
- 37:14Speaker 2: go to three D three hundred different coverage and Seattle
- 37:17Speaker 2: shreds it for a sixteen yard wide open slant. So
- 37:21Speaker 2: just a thought there. You asked me to play the game.
- 37:23Speaker 2: In my opinion, if I can walk you through this
- 37:25Speaker 2: real quick. The fourth quarter, Seattle obviously went up nineteen nothing.
- 37:32Speaker 2: The Patriots go down and they score nineteen to seven.
- 37:35Speaker 2: Seattle gets the ball, they go three and out. They punt.
- 37:39Speaker 2: Now the Patriots have the ball, and you're like, whoa,
- 37:41Speaker 2: this is the first time there's a little bit of life,
- 37:43Speaker 2: Like if they go down and score at this point,
- 37:45Speaker 2: they get the ball with ten forty to go, if
- 37:47Speaker 2: they go down and score and make it nineteen to fourteen,
- 37:51Speaker 2: and they held momentum and there's you know, seven eight
- 37:54Speaker 2: minutes to go. We got a football game, right, you know?
- 37:58Speaker 2: There was a against man and a man Drake may
- 38:01Speaker 2: he scrambled for what was the game? I think six
- 38:04Speaker 2: fourteen yards or something event ten yards, seventeen yards, Okay,
- 38:08Speaker 2: and so now the Julian Love interception to me was
- 38:15Speaker 2: the play of the game. And on that play, I'll
- 38:18Speaker 2: just say this, the bones of that play is a
- 38:21Speaker 2: play called eight forty four. Ricky, I'll explain what that means.
- 38:26Speaker 2: Eight is the is a post route, so that's the
- 38:28Speaker 2: Drake May's left, and then a four route is a
- 38:31Speaker 2: deep end. Kurt Warners said that the four route built
- 38:34Speaker 2: my house because he was phenomenal at those four outs,
- 38:37Speaker 2: those deep in routes. Some Mike would call it a dagger.
- 38:41Speaker 2: But and then there's a guy bursting in the flat
- 38:45Speaker 2: to the right, going against the as a checkdown to
- 38:48Speaker 2: going against those in routes. So the way Seattle covered that,
- 38:51Speaker 2: they got Julian Love over the top of the post,
- 38:56Speaker 2: they got Kobe Bryant. He drives top down on the
- 39:01Speaker 2: on the on the inside four out, the inside in
- 39:04Speaker 2: breaking route. You have on one he's covering the outbreaking route.
- 39:09Speaker 2: And that's where I think the NFL play by plays
- 39:12Speaker 2: got it wrong. They said that that Drake May was
- 39:15Speaker 2: trying to throw the post. No, whill you look at
- 39:17Speaker 2: his eyes the ground level, he was looking to his right.
- 39:20Speaker 2: The post was on his left. He was trying to
- 39:22Speaker 2: get the deep in. And what Seattle did this is again,
- 39:26Speaker 2: Mike McDonald, you would you have Ernist Jones lining in
- 39:31Speaker 2: the middle what would be called the hook zone, and
- 39:34Speaker 2: you've got Witherspoon aligned to the outside that would be
- 39:37Speaker 2: the curl flat area. But they change responsibilities. Witherspoon goes
- 39:43Speaker 2: diagonally back into the middle of the field and Ernest
- 39:47Speaker 2: Jones takes the flat even though they're playing zone. They
- 39:51Speaker 2: they they switch this and Witherspoon goes right underneath the
- 39:56Speaker 2: the dagger route, the four route, the same thing. It's
- 40:00Speaker 2: just different terminologies in different playbooks. He gets right underneath
- 40:05Speaker 2: that dagger route. And uh. And it's as if somebody said, hey,
- 40:09Speaker 2: by the way, you know they're going there. They're gonna
- 40:11Speaker 2: call eight forty four ricky. Here, ricky, what's the ricky
- 40:14Speaker 2: part that? Uh, that's the opposite of lucky One begins
- 40:16Speaker 2: with an R. That means the back or backs go
- 40:19Speaker 2: to the right. Uh. And and so in anyway, now
- 40:21Speaker 2: you know eight forty four ricky. It's been around a
- 40:23Speaker 2: long time. And if you come up to Kurt Warner
- 40:25Speaker 2: at a bar, you can say eight forty four, Ricky
- 40:28Speaker 2: built your house and you look at it and you go,
- 40:30Speaker 2: how do you know that? So so so again. So
- 40:35Speaker 2: I thought that was the play of the game. But Buck,
- 40:37Speaker 2: you asked her me early, I thought it was a
- 40:39Speaker 2: great question. Hey, give some examples of of why this
- 40:42Speaker 2: stuff is working on a and and so we've gone
- 40:46Speaker 2: through three plays here of different styles, different results and
- 40:48Speaker 2: what have you. But the detail of how you like,
- 40:51Speaker 2: you go, WHOA watch it the second time? You go,
- 40:54Speaker 2: that's cool? How they covered that? And oh, by the way,
- 40:57Speaker 2: they gloved it up perfect in zone in zone like
- 41:01Speaker 2: they're putting dudes right where Drake May wants to uh
- 41:05Speaker 2: to throw the football. And so you get if you
- 41:09Speaker 2: if you're tracking with me, you want to disagree, Great,
- 41:12Speaker 2: I love it. Throw throw five plays at me. I'm
- 41:14Speaker 2: gonna love them all. Say that's your play of the game. Great,
- 41:16Speaker 2: I love that play. It's not a zero some game.
- 41:20Speaker 2: We can have a lot of play the games. But
- 41:21Speaker 2: for me, I thought that was the most important. Yeah.
- 41:23Speaker 2: I thought the game was over. Yeah, I thought the
- 41:25Speaker 2: game was over. You feel like that was it? Yeah?
- 41:27Speaker 2: That was it? All right.
- 41:28Speaker 3: Hugh Melling as well as Mike Holmgren's gonna join us
- 41:30Speaker 3: in our nine o'clock hour more to discuss from last
- 41:34Speaker 3: night Super Bowl Championship.
- 41:36Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R f M