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Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 4-9-25 with Doc, Suzi, and Bill · Dave Kroupa (DOC)'s show

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  Speaker 1: Condition. Welcome everybody to doctor Cooper's Natural Health Hours. We
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  Speaker 1: We added another country last week, Switzerland, so we have
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  Speaker 1: about ten different nations and we are so grateful you
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  Speaker 1: guys are here. We've got Susie Bill and myself on Skype,
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  Speaker 1: our producer behind the screen. Mister Steve is in the
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  Speaker 1: on Skype, also in the background, and Susie, if you'd
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  Speaker 5: Hello everyone, thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so we got our here. It is the
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  Speaker 1: ninth of April, and the weather's been really cool. I
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  Speaker 1: mean I had forty degrees in the morning a couple
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  Speaker 1: five or one hundred and six, so I'll take it.
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  Speaker 1: I'll take it. Tonight, we're gonna touch on when you
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  Speaker 1: get too many people, as I said this week, too
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  Speaker 1: many chefs in the health kitchen. But it kind of
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of true for anything in life. Anytime you
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  Speaker 1: got too many people thinking they're right trying to give us.
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  Speaker 1: Whoever they're trying to give it to gets overloaded, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: makes bad decisions, sometimes caves in and really makes bad decisions,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe sometimes not so bad. But most of the
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  Speaker 1: time in healthcare, it's good to not take everybody's advice.
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  Speaker 1: And it happened twice this week, and I guess I'm
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  Speaker 1: starting to get a little fed up because the way
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  Speaker 1: I explained it to one went over well, and the
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  Speaker 1: other one has not contacted me back, so I guess
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  Speaker 1: they didn't like the fact that they had too many
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  Speaker 1: shifts in that kitchen. Already. They tell me when they
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  Speaker 1: call me that I didn't want to take all these
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  Speaker 1: pharmaceutical things, and they put two stints in me, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, wait a minute, you just said you didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to do all that, but you did all that.
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  Speaker 1: And then they explained there was a big argument with family,
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  Speaker 1: and now families not even speaking to each other because
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  Speaker 1: I guess this person didn't do everything family thought. And
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  Speaker 1: the problem is everybody watches TV. They see the commercials
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  Speaker 1: that play down the negatives of the drugs that don't
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  Speaker 1: belong in your body. Google doctor, things they look on Facebook,
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  Speaker 1: and they see the latest and greatest whatever, and everybody
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  Speaker 1: thinks some new miracle has happened. And what people don't understand.
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  Speaker 1: Google itself got in trouble. Oh it's been quite a
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  Speaker 1: few years now, I don't remember how many, but the
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  Speaker 1: British Journal of Medicine found out that Google had fixed
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  Speaker 1: it where if you put in your symptoms, Google would
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  Speaker 1: drag you down the road to where you had the
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  Speaker 1: worst possible case scenario of your symptoms to a disease
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  Speaker 1: and make sure they drug you back to the pharmaceutical
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  Speaker 1: side and the surgical side. And they got and they
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  Speaker 1: got fine. But Google's filthy rich. It didn't matter, I'm sure,
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  Speaker 1: and I haven't heard of it much since then. But
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  Speaker 1: with the way they're in politics and everything else, with
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  Speaker 1: all these social media is nothing surprises me. But what
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  Speaker 1: happens to most people. Something will come up and right
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  Speaker 1: away the family knows everything, and people get so much
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  Speaker 1: fluck from people that love them. And what happens these people,
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  Speaker 1: they think they're doing good, they think that they know better.
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  Speaker 1: They saw the commercial, they looked it up on Google,
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  Speaker 1: they saw the latest ad on Facebook that this is
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  Speaker 1: what you're needing, and so so much more complicated than
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  Speaker 1: any of these people have a clue. But I always
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  Speaker 1: compare it to they would not take the car to
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  Speaker 1: the mechanic and call in ten mechanics from different shops
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  Speaker 1: and want all of them working on their car at
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  Speaker 1: the same time. And they would not go into the
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  Speaker 1: mechanic shop and say, I google this and this is
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  Speaker 1: what you need to do, and this is what's wrong,
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  Speaker 1: this is what I'll fix it. This is where you
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  Speaker 1: get the parts. You know. The mechanic would say, if
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  Speaker 1: you know so much, take your car and do it yourself,
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  Speaker 1: get out of here. And they would never work with
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  Speaker 1: ten mechanics from different shops all at one time on
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  Speaker 1: the same car. It ain't happening. So what I tell people,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I do this for a living, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: always learning, always taking classes, always listening to patients and
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  Speaker 1: learning a lot from them. And I spend most of
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  Speaker 1: the time feeling pretty stupid, because just when I think
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  Speaker 1: I know a little bit, something comes along and pulls
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  Speaker 1: the rug right up from under my feet and brings
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  Speaker 1: me back to a very humble reality that most of
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  Speaker 1: us really don't know anything. We have experiences, we've learned
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  Speaker 1: a lot, but the body for some reason, refuses to
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  Speaker 1: read the textbook. It does not read Google, it does
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  Speaker 1: not read the pharmaceutical guidelines. It just ignores all that.
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  Speaker 1: And it was brought up today to me about how
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  Speaker 1: much government and companies and all this stuff is involved
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  Speaker 1: in this. So you're not You're trying to say, well,
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  Speaker 1: choose a doctor, but are you really choosing a doctor
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  Speaker 1: or is this doctor just one of the extensions of
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  Speaker 1: this pharmaceutical company. Are this vaccine company or the government?
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  Speaker 1: Like when we had the CDC telling people that they
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  Speaker 1: should get the shot, and then we found out later
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  Speaker 1: that the CDC had something like twenty three patents and
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  Speaker 1: they were also a company, so they were not what
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  Speaker 1: people thought they were. And see, people don't look into
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  Speaker 1: this stuff. They don't want to believe a lot. Nobody
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  Speaker 1: wants to believe how corrupt government and all the medical
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  Speaker 1: stuff is and how a lot of it works together.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to believe it. And I don't blame them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in it and I don't want to believe it,
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  Speaker 1: but it bites me a lot, and I have to
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  Speaker 1: admit it's there. So what I tell people is find somebody.
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  Speaker 1: And I changed it today from doctor to healthcare practitioner
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  Speaker 1: that maybe pulls it a little bit away from in
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  Speaker 1: those conglomerate businesses and pharmaceutical guys and government guys just
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, and maybe people can say, Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: want to find somebody that I can really trust, and
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  Speaker 1: let's start. Let's see what they can do for me.
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  Speaker 1: And what I run into a lot. And it happened
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  Speaker 1: this week twice once that gentleman that's known me forever.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess I'll get in a little less tolerant
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  Speaker 1: when somebody sends me a text after somebody else told
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  Speaker 1: me you can't send text on his phone, that that's
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  Speaker 1: not legit legal in our world. And he did it
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  Speaker 1: anyway twice. And they do it on a Sunday evening,
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  Speaker 1: which is unless it's urgent. That's pretty much not normal.
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  Speaker 1: You don't do that unless you got a Christil. And
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  Speaker 1: then I did, took the time and answered, and I
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  Speaker 1: went through everything they told me about, and I explained
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  Speaker 1: why the stints were bad and why I didn't think
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  Speaker 1: they needed the surgery on what they called sciatica, and
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  Speaker 1: I explained all these things, and I said, you've been
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  Speaker 1: lied to by a lot of people, But that stops now.
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  Speaker 1: If you want my help, send me an email, tell
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  Speaker 1: me what's going on, tell me what you're taking, tell
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  Speaker 1: me what you feel, your concerns, and we'll take it
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  Speaker 1: from there. Well that happened on Sunday. This is Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: and I never heard another word. I don't think they
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  Speaker 1: liked when I said the stints were a bad thing
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  Speaker 1: and I explained why. I don't think they liked when
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  Speaker 1: I explained that ivermectin and a few of them other
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  Speaker 1: things were not good for them no matter what everybody's
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  Speaker 1: trying to sell them. I don't think they liked the
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  Speaker 1: fact that I said they probably, in my experience, had
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  Speaker 1: an alternative to that surgery. And they said, well, the
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  Speaker 1: surgery's working right now. I said, yeah, right now, until
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  Speaker 1: you get scar tissue and degenerative stuff going on, because
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  Speaker 1: they don't tell you about that. So anyway, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: hear from them. Then another person contacts me and they said,
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  Speaker 1: are you still helping patients? I'm having this, this and
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  Speaker 1: this going on? And I said, okay, these things are
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  Speaker 1: usually driven from something pharmaceutical, what you particularly told me.
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  Speaker 1: And they said, but I'm not doing any of that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And so that I didn't get to ask them, did
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  Speaker 1: you do the Corona shot, because if you did, this
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  Speaker 1: could be the same thing. And then they tell me, well,
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  Speaker 1: I have an appointment with a neurologist on Tuesday. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to see my DC that lives close to me,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm going to tell him this. And I took
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  Speaker 1: what you wrote down, and I said, well, why didn't
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  Speaker 1: you just come to me in the beginning. You've known
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  Speaker 1: me for years and when they lived closer, they always
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  Speaker 1: came to me for everything. But they've moved a long,
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  Speaker 1: long way away and it's too far to drive, so
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  Speaker 1: they go. They found a chiropractic doctor that doesn't do
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  Speaker 1: what I do, but takes care of that adjusting part,
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  Speaker 1: which they needed without having to drive a long way.
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  Speaker 1: And so I said, but wait a minute, you've already
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  Speaker 1: got too many chefs in your kitchen. I said, I'll
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  Speaker 1: be part of that. And a lot of people don't
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  Speaker 1: understand why you're not willing to sit over there on
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  Speaker 1: the bench until they decided to put you in the
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  Speaker 1: game and then want you and this one to start
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  Speaker 1: talking about what you're doing. I know what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: They've already told me. I know them medic case, I
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  Speaker 1: know the things they want to do. I don't go
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  Speaker 1: that way, and I'm not going to work in the
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  Speaker 1: same kitchen where I'm trying to do what I think
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  Speaker 1: is best for you, and they're doing things that I
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  Speaker 1: know are not good for you, and you want us
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  Speaker 1: to work alongside. That's not helping you, So you don't
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  Speaker 1: want me. I'm not your doctor. If you want ten
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  Speaker 1: mechanics working on your car from different shops, ain't happening.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm always amazed. A lot of times people decide
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  Speaker 1: with their education what my education, experience and knowledge is.
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  Speaker 1: So they will decide in their mind, with what they
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  Speaker 1: know about this field, what they think I know, and
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  Speaker 1: they'll decide if that I have limits and things that
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  Speaker 1: and there the way it is, and it most time
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  Speaker 1: is not. And what's sad. Many many times I could
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  Speaker 1: have helped people, but they decided that they didn't think
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  Speaker 1: I knew anything about their problem, so without giving it
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  Speaker 1: a chance, they didn't use me. And I could have
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  Speaker 1: helped them. They were it was always something that I
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  Speaker 1: knew something about because I've done a lot of things,
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  Speaker 1: and I do them the right way, the natural way.
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  Speaker 1: Not every time does everything work out perfect at first,
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  Speaker 1: you got a troubleshoot. And the ones I've had the
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  Speaker 1: toughest time with are the ones that are a long
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  Speaker 1: way from me. That's always hard, but we get through
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  Speaker 1: it as long as they don't give up. I've never
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  Speaker 1: had a problem where I give up. That doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 1: But you got people love one's family, friends that put
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  Speaker 1: so much pressure on people, and all of a sudden
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  Speaker 1: they think they're a doctor. But I always say, well,
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  Speaker 1: if they wanted to be doctors, why didn't they go
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  Speaker 1: to school and put in the time learning and see
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  Speaker 1: real patients and get the experience so they could be
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  Speaker 1: But they didn't because they liked to Google doctor. Can
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  Speaker 1: you imagine you go in to an emergency room and
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  Speaker 1: the guy standing there looking at Google and looking at
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  Speaker 1: you and typing, looking at Google, looking at you and
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  Speaker 1: hoping he can find out what Google tells him to
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  Speaker 1: do quick because you're an emergency room and you might die.
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  Speaker 1: I'd much rather have somebody that's done that job for many,
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  Speaker 1: many years and doesn't Google doctor. He doctor doctors. That's
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking about. So again, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what's going on with people, but a lot of them
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  Speaker 1: seem to think they know everything, and I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I know almost nothing. Yet I've been doing this for
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  Speaker 1: a long time, a lot of school, a lot of education,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of listening to patients. I've learned so much
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  Speaker 1: from patients it's unbelievable. But yet people will tell you, well,
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  Speaker 1: I had to listen to the family, or they made
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  Speaker 1: me go get this test. It makes no sense. I
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  Speaker 1: had somebody in my own family tell me they went
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  Speaker 1: to get blood work, and I said, why why didn't
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  Speaker 1: you call me? Well, I wanted to prove to my
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  Speaker 1: significant other these things. And I said, but you don't
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  Speaker 1: understand blood work. You don't understand that most of the
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  Speaker 1: time it won't show up anything that's got to do
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  Speaker 1: with what you trying to explain. But they went and
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  Speaker 1: did it, didn't say a word to me until after
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  Speaker 1: the fact, and then they try to kind of explain
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  Speaker 1: what they think is wrong and what they think needs
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  Speaker 1: to be done, and they weren't even close and I
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  Speaker 1: offered and they weren't interested. That's my own family. So
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  Speaker 1: it's really tough with people that are not your family,
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  Speaker 1: and they're dealing with their families, and they're putting a
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  Speaker 1: lot of pressure, and you know, I had a lady, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's probably been two years. We send our show out
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  Speaker 1: to an old friend because my friend Richard that passed
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: away used to send it out to a whole bunch
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: of people. And this lady contacted the guy that was
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: still sending it out and said, what's he doing talking
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: about doctor stuff? He's a chiro prector, And I just laughed.
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  Speaker 1: She had no clue, her limited education on my field,
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  Speaker 1: my knowledge, my education, my experience, it wasn't enough for
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  Speaker 1: her to even see the kneecapps. But yet she felt
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: good enough to put out an email that went to
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: all these people that received the show, and pretty much
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: bad mouthed in me, like, what's he doing talking about
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: this kind of stuff? He can't know any of that stuff? Well,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: yeah he can. And in the beginning that kind of
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: stuff probably would have hurt my feelings, But over the
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: years you learn to laugh and smile because they just
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  Speaker 1: don't know, and it's their loss, not yours. But sometimes
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: they hurt other people by discouraging them to do something
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  Speaker 1: when somebody could have helped them, like me. So my advice,
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  Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, ignore all the know it alls, your
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  Speaker 1: gut will tell you when you've got somebody you can
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  Speaker 1: trust and believe in, and then start. Like this person
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  Speaker 1: I spoke to last week, I said, you could have
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  Speaker 1: already probably been better if you would have started what
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I suggested, but they wanted to wait. And one of
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  Speaker 1: their comments was while I was busy taking care of
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: my kids because they're in school. And my response to
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: that is always the same thing. If you don't take
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  Speaker 1: care of you, you might not be around to take
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  Speaker 1: care of them. Then who takes care of them? So
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  Speaker 1: let's fix you so you can do a better job
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  Speaker 1: fixing them being a part of their life. But a
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: lot of people don't see it. And I still haven't
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  Speaker 1: heard from that person, And by the time they get
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  Speaker 1: around to me, they will have seen two more doctors,
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  Speaker 1: which takes me out of the kitchen because I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to be in they're sharing my chef ideas and
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  Speaker 1: helping put pharmaceuticals in the pot or surgeries in the pot,
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  Speaker 1: are pain meds in the pot? We're not going to
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  Speaker 1: do that. I'm not going to do that. So anyway, Susie.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think it's absolutely heard that someone would get
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  Speaker 5: their medical information off of Facebook. I mean, do they
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  Speaker 5: even understand how absurd they sound? And you know that
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  Speaker 5: it's been going on for many years. I would say, well,
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  Speaker 5: you know, send cell phone videoing and pictures and social media.
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  Speaker 5: The common mantra is, well, if you don't have a picture,
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  Speaker 5: if you don't have a video, it didn't happen. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I can I could sit and write something, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and put it on Facebook or whatever and say, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I hung up a Hummingburg theater and next thing I know,
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  Speaker 5: I looked at it and there was a woodpecker on it,
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  Speaker 5: and a squirrel climbed down, you know, from the rafter
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  Speaker 5: and scared the woodpecker away. Well, people, if I just
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  Speaker 5: put that, you know, in a paragraph, people would say, well,
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  Speaker 5: if you didn't, if you don't have a video, it
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  Speaker 5: didn't happen. So because of that, Facebook is full of videos,
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  Speaker 5: video ads, these doughtter ads, and people have been conditioned
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  Speaker 5: to believe this over reality. And I think it's going
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  Speaker 5: to do nothing but get worse with AI. And then
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  Speaker 5: I saw I read an article where you might want
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  Speaker 5: to be careful with the future doctors coming out of school,
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  Speaker 5: that they are learning how to be a doctor and
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  Speaker 5: getting their answers from chat GPT. Again, it's an AI product,
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  Speaker 5: you know. Uh, it's equal to telling some kid, you
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  Speaker 5: know at high school, you know, I'll give you ten bucks,
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  Speaker 5: you know, if you'll do my homework for me. You
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  Speaker 5: know that that was the old school AI, you know,
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: find to find the smart kids. So now you've got
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: people to medical school learning how to be a doctor
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: loose quotes from AI from chat GPT. But the biggest
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: thing is they've done really good call it deep stay
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: whatever you want to call it, with wrangling people in,
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: with the videos, with the especially the medical videos. And
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: I think that's the culprit.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Well, it makes sense. Things have really changed, uh Bill,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: how about you? I'm sure it's changed a lot since
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: you were practicing every day.
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I suppose. I you know, as I have
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: have said, I don't really have any contact with those
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: folks anymore. But I do is they make scond last week,
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: have occasional questions about teletherapy and and doing online kid
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: and I and I think that this this whole convenience
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: driven healthcare system is just, uh is a really dangerous thing.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: And I think folks have don't Folks don't realize that Uh,
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: you know, there's a lot of information that goes back
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: and forth on these these media that shouldn't really be
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: so available to other people. You know, when you saw
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: a doctor in the office, guys talked about pretty much
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: stayed there. Yeah, there was you know, the notes from
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: the session went into the into the larger file room,
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: but there was still a sense of privacy and that
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: sense of individuality and that that sense of Now, as
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: you know, you use the word crush the several times
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: that using having the ability to trust your healthcare provider,
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: it just doesn't happen the first visit. This is usually
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: something that takes a long time. Now, maybe that's a
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: generational issue for me because when you know, when I
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: was a kid, I went to the same dentist for
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: decades until he retired, or people were the same doctor
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: for years. That forms a whole different kind of relationships
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: than the kind of walk in healthcare system. And I
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: think that with a lot of the social media and
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: a lot of the teller therapies and the tele sessions,
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: just kind of generalized practice is really it's not good.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: And I think people are going to pay a pay
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: a price for that. They're probably overly on. But it's
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: something I think we need to be aware of. And again,
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: making up our own decisions, our own minds about these
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: things is important and do it consciously and thoughtfully, not
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: just on us spur of the moment.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. And that's one of the secrets that's
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: been good for me for the last twenty six years
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: or so is most of the patients I was their
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: family doctor for everything, and that that developed over a
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: little bit of time, and once they developed trust and
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: once they realized that those were things that I did,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: they just came to me for everything. And a few
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: of these people that have contacted me this last week
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: have known me for a long time. One of them
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: asked a bunch of questions ten years ago and was
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: pushing some drinks that they thought were healthy and they
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: had they had synthetic scarbicue acid, calling it vitamin C
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: and some other things, and I felt really bad when
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I had to tell them that that wasn't good and
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: they and you shouldn't be telling people it's good for them.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: And I had them ask a lot of questions over
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: the years, but they never really followed up on anything
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: until the other day. And then I guess They didn't
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: like the fact that I told them that a lot
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: of people had lied to them. There was things they
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: were told and things they were taking that they didn't need. So,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't think I'm ass tolerant when you've
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: known me for ten or fifteen years and you're acting like, well,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I think about calling you. I had somebody the other day,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: a really, really good friend at one time. We haven't
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: seen each other in a long time and they live
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: a long way off, but they said they were going
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: through some medical issues and other people told me about them,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: and I said, well, I can't call them. They have
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: to call me, and finally they did, and I said, well,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: why didn't you call me before it got this bad
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: and you're doing all these things that are destroying you?
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: And they said, well, I thought it might bother you.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to bother you, you know, I figured
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: you were too busy. I said, that's what I do,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: and you're a friend, So why wouldn't you have called me?
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: And I think I know the answer. The family did
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: not think much of natural doctors like me, and I'd
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: met them, and they wanted them to take the pharmaceutical route.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: And this is a case where they were dealing with
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: kidney issues, and the more times you take a pharmaceutical drug,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the worse that kidney gets because the kidney and liver
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: are trying to get rid of it. And then you
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: end up on dialysis. First it starts once a week,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: then it starts twice a week, and now they're at
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: three times a week. Nothing they're doing is making anything better.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: And so I think that the family put pressure and
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: that's why they didn't contact me because I made the
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: comment that I remember, remember the looks that one of
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: your family members gave when we were talking about healthcare,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: and you know, they said, well, yeah, they they do that,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: but that doesn't make me do stuff. But it looks
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: like people do. People cave into that pressure, and there's
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of pressure, and you know,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: people love you and they think they're doing good, but
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: they're not, and they you know, they ought to stay
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: out of it. It reminded me when I was electrician.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: We had a foreman that was not a very good electrician,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: but he was He liked to dress nice and he
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: loved cleaning. And one day I told him, I said,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: you know, when I was a janitor, they never made
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: me do electrical work, and I don't think he ever
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: quite understood that. But anyway, we are at break time.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome. Welcome back to Doctor Crouper's Natural Health Hours. We've
• 35:54
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• 35:59
  Speaker 1: in the background keeping things afloat. If you're looking at
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• 36:07
  Speaker 1: that picture of us here in the background. I don't
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: know where he's at. The should be somebody like hiding.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: But anyway, we're back. Welcome to Doctor Grouper's Natural Health Hours.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: It is April ninth, twenty and twenty five, and we've
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: been talking about too many chefs in the kitchen, and
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: that applies to anything in life. When you're doing stuff
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: you don't need whether it's a real kitchen, you don't
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: need more than one head chef, and you don't need
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: a bunch of people telling each other what to do.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: It doesn't work well. And one of the things that
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I don't understand what people is why not try something like?
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: You know me? And one of the comments I got
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: the other day was I go to this guy for this,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: but I knew you were real good with the nutritional
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Standard process METIORB stuff. I said, well, you know, is
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: that all you know? After all the years you've known me.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: That blows my mind because I've treated them for everything
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: so start, and that was my statement to them, you
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: could have already been better. You let this thing drag
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: out for a long time, and you could have been better.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I got an email today and this just irritates the
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: hell out of me. They know it's radio show day
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: and they had something kind of in the problem urgent
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: class and they send an email. Well, I'm busy doing
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. I don't look at the email
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: all day long. When I'm doing these other things, I
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: check it, But if you got something kind of important,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: pick up the phone. I don't do the office on
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Wednesday unless it's something urgent. But they send me an email.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: So I wrote back and I said, Okay, this is
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: what you probably should do, but please never send me
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: an email when you've got a problem and it's kind
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: of urgent, call me. I said, this is radio show day.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I don't deal with the emails as much other than
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: the show stuff, and I do check them, but like
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: just a couple of minutes before we went on air,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I had a phone call with the message and a
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of questions, and they know I'm doing the
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: show and it was like ten minutes to six, and
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I didn't have time to call them. Plus it's show day.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: They know that. So try something. Start somewhere. When you've
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: got somebody that you trust that is not buried deep
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: in the pharmaceutical world or the government ties, and you
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: trust them and they make suggestions, try them and give
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: good feedback. You might just get better. And if those
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: suggestions didn't take care of all of it, give them
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: really good feedback and they'll troubleshoot through it with you
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: like I do. That's what I do. I listen to
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: the patients. The more they tell me, the smarter I look.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: And if one direction didn't work, we shift gears and
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: see what their body wanted. So that's just how I
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: look at it all right. Time for a little humor.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I think we need a little break from all the
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: serious stuff. There was a man and a woman. I
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: guess they were just got married or getting ready to
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: get married. And the lady tells the guy, you can
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: be my last love or my first homicide. You need
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: to decide.
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: I like that.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: That sounded like Susie. Fill out this form. Oh have
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: you ever heard anybody say that?
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Bill?
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Oh? No, Susie, have you ever said it?
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: No?
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: I haven't said that one.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty good. Then woman and her
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: husband were talking with the wife and the husband and
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: she said, oh no, he told her, he said, do
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: you know that women this is the kind of thing
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Susie would do. She said, do you know that women
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: say thirty thousand words a day and men only use
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: half that? And the wife said, of course, we have
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: to tell our husband's everything. Twice I could see Susie
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: doing that one. All right, anything on, start taking stuff
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: and maybe you get better. No chefs in the kitchen,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: No ten mechanics on different shops, Susie.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: The only thing that I thought I was and I
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: think it started with COVID COVID scare, and you know,
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: the people were greatly divided. Maths, no mask, shot, no shot,
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: natural immunity, No I need buy immunity to a needle.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: And of course we've had many years for the repercussions
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: to crop up. People will not anymore except that they
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: were lied to and because of that, they made a mistake.
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: And I just don't want to admit.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: That that makes sense. It's not a good feeling to
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: have to say I was wrong, But Boie, we sure
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: learn and grow when we do. When you could swallow
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: your pride and say I screwed up, I made a mistake,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I feel bad. I'm sorry. These are important, I think
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: in learning and growing and being a better you than
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: you were yesterday. You know, somebody said once every morning
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: is a chance to start over and do better, and
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: you can't live in the past because you can't change that.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: And that makes a lot of sense, and a lot
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: of these people are seeing. I saw a thing yesterday.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Ten different nurses that one facility all took the shot
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: and all of them now have heart trouble, and none
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: of them had heart trouble before the shot. A lot
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: of people they drank that kool aid. They'd have been
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: with Jim Jones drinking that kool aid that killed all
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: them people. I had a family member get the shots
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: and the boosters, and they have been sick and miserable.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: And they don't live by me, they live in another state.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: But they told me one time on the phone, I
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: sure wish you'd get that shot. And I said, well,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: you don't really have the education or the experience to
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: try to talk somebody into that, but they sure did,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: and they pushed everybody they could and their family up
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: there to get those shots. And we don't have any
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: idea how much people have been hurt. And that's why
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: it's so hard, I think, to find somebody that isn't
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: tied to the government or the pharmacies and trust them
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: because they're not used to that. Bill said it before
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: we grew up, and you for everything, you went to
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: the doctor, and most people stuck with the same dentists
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: and the same doctor until they died or retired or
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: somebody moved. That's the way things were. I am more
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: like I had to fit in on gun smoke, being
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Doc Adam and doing everything. That's the kind of doctor
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I wanted to be from the very beginning. Everybody's family
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: doctor that does everything except a bunch of surgery. I'm
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: not interested in that, and so I want people to
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: feel comfortable and to be able to trust me. And
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: I've been lucky. A large, large percentage of my patients
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: over the years came to me for everything you can imagine,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: and I'd say ninety nine point nine percent of the
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: time we were successful. There's a couple of people because
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I never give up, but there's a couple people that
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: didn't let me pursue it the way I wanted to,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: and so I didn't get a chance to do everything
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I think we could have done. But very very little
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: that happened. I did have a gentleman that was a friend,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: I thought, and one of his children was a patient
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: of mine, and they called me on Easter Sunday one year.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: This patient was having a lot of pain. Could I
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: come into the office and see them. Well, I had
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: ends with the family, but this sounded pretty bad. So
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I went and I said, let's try this, this and this,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and I need to hear from you in a couple
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: of weeks so we know which way to go and
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: what effect this ad. Well, three months later I got
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: a phone call and evidently he'd been Google doctoring, and
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: he ignored my requests for two weeks and only called
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: me three months later because there was a big flare
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: up and said, well, they're not any better. I said, well,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: how would I know that? You were supposed to let
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: me know after two weeks. And then they proceeded to
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: tell me what tests they wanted me to order for
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: the patient. And at that time, it was real serious
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: about texting medical on your phone, and I told them
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: several times, do not text me medical stuff on the phone,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: and they did it again, And I said, did you
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: notice that you're the only patient that still text me
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: after I've told you that I could lose my license.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Oh well, you know they didn't think what They just
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: thought it was a joke. They didn't really believe it.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: And anyway, when they start giving me, telling me what
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: tests and what they wanted me to do, we had
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: parted ways. As far as I was concerned. I was fired,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: because if you're going to call the shots, then you
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: don't need me and this happens with a lot of people.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: They don't trust enough, they do not follow through with feedback,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: and that makes it really hard to help somebody when
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: you don't know what's going on. So I just learned
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: that there's only so much I can do, and if
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: they want me, I'll be there and I'll do my best.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: And if they don't cooperate or help or they're no compliant,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: then so be it. You can't lose sleep over that
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: stuff anything, Susie, I could see.
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: I think my arm has been falling off before I
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: would ask you to come in on a holiday like that.
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: Just the gall with people, it's almost like it's become
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: a red flag, Like you know, they used to say
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: back of the day, here's your spine. You know most
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: of the time things like that. I mean, I know
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: something a que can happen on Christmas Day or Easter Sunday.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: I get it, but more than likely, and I could
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: be wrong. It had been going on for a little
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: bit of time, but they waited until Easter Sunday, basically saying,
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: you know, I'm more important than you are, so would
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: you please come into the office and see me.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I just can't well in this case, You're absolutely right.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: It had been going on and they'd felt like their
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: work was more important, I guess, so they waited till
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: they were off work and called me. But this has
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: happened to me. There is not a holiday that I
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: have not had to go in. There is been many
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: times I was working everybody had gone home. I was
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: closing up, finishing a couple of files, locking the door,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: and somebody show up and want me to take care
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: of them, and get very upset if you try to
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: tell them I need to go. And it had been
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: going on, and I lost count of how many times
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: people would tell you. I'd say, well, how long has
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: this been happening? Oh, two or three weeks, and till
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: you wait till now. One time I was going out
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: of town and somebody got very very angry that I
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: needed to leave, and they walked in the door after hours,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: but the door was still open because we were finishing
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: up some paperwork. So nothing surprises me anymore. And I
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: think because I worked as an electrician for so long,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I was used to working crazy hours and weekends and holidays,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: so I tolerated it. But your sight, Jersey, so many
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: times people would say, oh, it's been happening for two,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: three weeks or a couple months, and so now it's
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: a crisis. And in the early days I wouldn't say nothing.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Then after a while I would say something. I would say,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: you know what, okay this time, but now on you
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: need to take care of it sooner, Bill, how about you.
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's always it's always a tough call. And I
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: think people that people I like you get into the
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: healthcare business because we care about health. We care about
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: the health of other people, and that as a compassion
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: I think is often taken for granted that it doesn't
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: matter when anywhere, but we're always available. Well, you know, yeah,
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: we have to carry a certain responsibility for that too,
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: because because we are, we are available when doing How
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: do how do we say no to somebody who all
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: of a sudden, just like that they're symptomology of the
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: past two months has reached a crisis station. They need
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: to call me on whatever day it is. Patient responsibility
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: is is much a part of a part of the process,
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: and I don't think that that's been a part of
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: our culture. That hospitals are open twenty four to seven
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: urgent care facilities are open twenty four to seven. It's
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: always available, so we're always available and say it's very
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: hard to sell somebody to say, you know, you know,
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I've been doing this for eighteen hours today,
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: I'm going home. You come around them all. We don't
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: do that. We just don't do that. We need to
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: hope we needed to have done it, but we don't
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: because it's just that's the nature of the few of
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: this businesses. As I've said many times, you know, compassions
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: is a wonderful thing, but are so often our greatest
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: strength has becomes our greatest weakness, and we lose the
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: ability to be objective about things. That's it.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. A good friend of mine
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: said that if you let them, the patients will take
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: all of your time and you'll have nothing. And the
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: difference between us and all them urgent cares and all
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: them places is they call us after it's been going
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: on for a long time, knowing that we're not going
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: to charge them anymore than we normally do, and that
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: we're closer to them. It's more personal. But when they
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: go to those other places, it's strictly this costs six
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars this is what you owe. Go get this prescription,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: and there's no there's no personal touches, none of that.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: And so they take advantage of the people like you
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: and me that do those things because compassion and it
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: is it's heartbreaking. And also they wait usually till the
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Titanic's a little bit underwater before they holler help. And
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: it's like tonight when I got that email, they said, well,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: it started a day or two ago, but I'm pretty
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: sure this is what's happening. What do I do? Help
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: in an email? Holler help in an email? I mean
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: that it's just do people think the computer is going
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: to scream when you walk by that somebody sent you
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: an email holler and help. It doesn't work that way.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't work. And that's another thing too. I
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: noticed that my buddy was right. He never let that happen.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: He did not let him do those things to him.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know how we did it, but he did
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: not have that problem, and it was very hard for
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: me to say no. But the ones that were the
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: most irritating was when you're locking the door. You've been
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: there all day, your war out tired, and they pull
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: up because they got some free time, and it's been
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: going on for a couple of weeks, and you know
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: you should just take care of me. And I remember
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: this one got very upset, very upset, and I never
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: saw him again after that time. I would not let
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: that happen to me again. Then we had I think
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: I said this one before. We had a guy that
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: missed six appointments six One day, we were swamped with
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: people and he came in and I heard the girls
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: up front talking to him, and he said, well, you
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: guys don't take walk ins. And they said, well, number one,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: we're solid booked at the moment, and number two, you
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: missed six appointments. He said, oh, that's cause my wife
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: made the appointments and I forgot. So I told them
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: from now on, you don't let somebody else make that
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: appointment unless you speak to both, and you have the
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: permission to even communicate that we know their spouse is
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: a patient, so that we can charge accordingly if they
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: don't show up. But I've only had that happen twice
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: two people in all years. One missed six appointments, one
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: missed four, and showed up an hour late on another
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: one and acted like it was no big deal. And
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: finally one day and my best sarcastic voice that I
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: could use, I said, you know, you're treating me like
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: I was a jiffy loop and maybe that's what you need,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: but I'm not your guy. You just can't do that.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: So that's solved that problem. I hate being that way
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: because I don't like to see people suffer. I want
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: to help everybody. I want life to be better. But
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: why why kick the doctor when he's trying to help
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: you or disrespect him? And that that patient that was
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: telling me what tests I should run on their child? Uh?
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: That that just kind of rubbed me really bad, telling
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: me because and I guess they google doctor did I
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: don't know, but they weren't right. I wouldn't have chose
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: what they wanted to do. Uh. And it wasn't that
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: bad of a problem if they'd just contacted me. Two
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: weeks later, all right, guys, anything before we go to
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: break Susy she's out feeding cats? Bill.
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: No, I'm sorry, I close the door. I didn't want
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: to make noise. I hit me. No, I'm good. No comments, will.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Ye? You got something up your sleeve for a weekly topic?
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  Speaker 6: A little bit? Yep?
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, we'll hit on that when we come back. Susie,
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  Speaker 1: how about recipes? You got something with boozeing and I
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  Speaker 5: No, I've got a couple of short ones.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: I remember that song the guy said the way you
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• 58:27
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• 58:29
  Speaker 1: He knew it was bad. It's probably like Susie in
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  Speaker 1: the background, going, what did he do?
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 58:36
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  Speaker 6: Okay, last last week I was talking a little about
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 6: habots and and routines and how we get how we
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: get stuck in those most time it's it's it's not
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: an intentional uh kinde of adhesion. We just kind of
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 6: drift into doing things the same way. One of the
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: things that came to me as a result of talking
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: about that a little bit, it was something that in
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: uh in the middle health part of healthcare typically spent
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: some some careful attention to. And then that's been People
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: can talk about what I used to call patterns or
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: behavioral patterns. We all have them. We all know none
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: none of us have figured out a way to be
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 6: above this. We you know, just as we have habits
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: for our morning routine or or lunchtime routines, whatever. The
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 6: kinds of behavioral h emotional patterns that we begin to
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: hopefully that we begin to become aware of really have
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 6: to do with triggers and how we respond to various
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: stimuli in conversations or things that we we hear on
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  Speaker 6: the news, or how or what we happen to see
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: as we're out and above but h we're seeking actually
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  Speaker 6: because it seems and so the the internet is crying
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  Speaker 6: so hard to find fault with our current president and
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 6: his administration, and I realized how angry this was making me.
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  Speaker 6: It was really I was a little surprised at how
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 6: frustrated I became, and how was how long I have
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 6: been responding to this kind of adverse publicity and this
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: obvious political effort. It had been making a difference in
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 6: my own outlook, in my own way of dealing with
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 6: others that didn't have anything to do with the politics.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 6: But it just put me on edge becoming aware of
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 6: these responses becoming because it really was a pattern that
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: I again to seeing myself when I begin to hear
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: it's kind of nonsensical stuff that was true for you know,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: for the prior administrations as well, but you know, the
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: people in the media are in the business of selling time.
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  Speaker 6: They're selling news, they're creating news, and they're selling it.
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  Speaker 4: And it really.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 6: I had noticed that it really began to affect just
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 6: my general outlook about almost everything, and I thought, Okay,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: this is something I need to take a closer look at. Well,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 6: these kinds of patterns that we have. As I was
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 6: thinking more about it or are sometimes very small. Somebody
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 6: can say say almost anything. It depends on their inflection
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 6: of the of how they express themselves, how we respond
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: to that, and we can take something as a criticism
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 6: and no criticism was was meant, but we took it
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 6: that way because of who knows what that didn't really
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: have anything to do with with that moment. And to
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: begin to be aware of these kinds of patterns, as
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: I said, as when we have a patient come in
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 6: and they began talking about a difficulty they're having with
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: their spouse, usually that particular difficulty, it was not the problem.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: The problem it really began often years ago that they
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: were had become hyper sensitive too something or read into
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 6: a conversation more than was intended. And this was something
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: that had just been developed. There's a little psychobabble here
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 6: as a defense mechanism to preserve their own sense of
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: their own identity. We can find all it was what
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 6: people say, or I think the ultimate basic reason is
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: it it disagrees with what we think, our disagrees with
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 6: what we say, and we feel we have to somehow
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 6: reassert mostly to ourselves but to others as well, to
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: reassert our own sense of personal validity, our own sense
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 6: that our feelings are our thoughts are just as important
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: as what somebody is saying to me. On the other hand,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: am I misinterpreting? Am I reading into what just happened
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: or just it just got said, or what I just
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 6: am I reading more into it really than the situation wants?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: Admission quite some weeks ago that one of the current
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 6: of buzzwords in a particular segment of our culture is
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 6: situational awareness. And I think that that that needs to
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: be that needs to be a greater part of our outlook,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 6: not in terms of that secificity, but in terms of
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: does this situation of which what just does that really
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: warrant the response that I'm giving it? Sometimes it does.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 6: Sometimes we really need to be reassertive to others about
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 6: what has happened, and then you talked about that a
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 6: couple of times to night. You need to be able
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 6: to say, you know, this is kind of behavior is
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 6: not acceptable, and you know we'll take care of this now,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 6: but don't do it again, and there's nothing wrong with that.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 6: I think that that if we if we are are
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 6: perfect about ourself, if we are pret about ourselves, we
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 6: can say these kinds of back them up things. I
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 6: remember watching a movie and I don't even remember what
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 6: the movie was, but this husband and wife were having
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: an argument and she was being very accusatory and he said,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 6: I think you need to back up. You need to
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: back up right now? Are you backed up? Which means
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 6: you need to back up and take a you know
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 6: a little bit. Well, we need to do that to
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 6: ourselves as well. Like the people, they say things or
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 6: do things that kind of get our My dad used
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: to say, get our goat get our anger level comes
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 6: up because of something that is put in a way
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 6: that we take in a particularly hurtful way, we need
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 6: to do more patient. As I say, it depends on
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 6: the situation. And again it comes back to the situational awareness.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 6: Does this Does this incident really warrant the kind of
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 6: response that I'm about to unload on you. Let's say
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: sometimes it does. Sometimes we need to unload real heavy,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: real hard. It's just a joy when we've got a
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 6: particular issue that we've come to you with and you
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 6: suggest we take this or we take that, and if
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: it's a severe issue, you have often said, well, let's
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 6: really let's move this up and really hit it hard
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 6: and hit it heavy. Sometimes we need to hit it
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: hard and heavy right off the top. Sometimes we need
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: to take a little more gradual approach to it. It
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 6: depends on the situation. One of the things about battle
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 6: health is that there and you talked about this in
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 6: terms of you're part of the healthcare business, there are
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 6: no quick, subtle answers. And that's one of the reasons
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 6: I get get up on my soapbox about teletherapy. I
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: talked a little bit about this last week, is that
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 6: I think our culture has nditioned us to expect immediate
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 6: results from whatever we're trying to repair, whatever we're trying
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 6: to fix, and your life just doesn't work that way.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 6: And I've become a little arrested with people who would
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 6: come into the office and they would want to they
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 6: just figured that, you know, an hour or an hour
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 6: and a half session or take care and things. No,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 6: that's not going to work. And I've got to the
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 6: point fairly quickly and that really be clear and specific
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 6: to say, Look, this is this is not a one
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: or two time fix. This is going to take a
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 6: little while. And if you're not willing to do that, okay,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 6: But if you are I have to understanding that these
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 6: things don't happen overnight, and they don't get fixed overnight,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: and it requires a lot of the well of patience
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 6: and a lot of h sticking to a person perseverance.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 6: No matter what what you do in your end of
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 6: the business or what I do in the end in
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: my end of the business, the only person who can
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 6: who can cause to change is a patience. We can't
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: fix them, we can't cure them. We can't if they're
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 6: not willing to follow a protocol or they're not willing
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: to take to have to develop the self discipline to
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 6: heal themselves. There's there's not much, not much reason that
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 6: we can do. There are things that we can fix
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: pretty quickly, some of the anger issues that we can address.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 6: In my business, there were a couple of patients who
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 6: came in with substantial anger issues and road rage kinds
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 6: of things, and yeah, okay, there are things that we
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 6: can suggest to do to eliminate the immediacy of that.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: But if you're going to really cause any substantive change
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: in that outlook, it's going to think a while. And
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 6: if you're you know, you've got to be You've got
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 6: to be willing to carry yourself upon a little bit
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: and put it back together. It's the old man who
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 6: fell off the wall.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 6: Then then there's a change to have these kinds of
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: patterned changes, changes in the way that we respond to
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 6: the triggers or stimuli that have for maybe years revoked
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 6: particularly not healthy, undesirable response to a situation. It takes
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 6: a lot of hard work. We've got to got to
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 6: understand that we do this to begin with. We can't
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 6: begin to make changes until we've got something to change.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 6: So by looking at at behavioral patterns really objectively and
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: really critically and say, oh, yeah, I used to do
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: this this way all the time and it just never
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: worked out. I don't understand that. Well, Dick, it is
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: a starting point. And I think that again, that's the
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 6: kind of self work, as we used to call it,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 6: that a therapist can't can't do for you, or you
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 6: know you, you and your business do. Can can suggest
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: nutritional changes that will begin to change the body chemistry
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 6: a little gradually and all, but but if if if
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: the patient doesn't stay with it, it's not gonna it's
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 6: not going to be totally effective. And I think that's
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 6: again part of our cultural heritage is that if if
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 6: we take a pill, we're going to feel better right away.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 6: And if we take a pill and we don't feel
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 6: better right away, then we need to find somebody else
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 6: who will give us the right kind of pill. This
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 6: kind of stopping around for uh, a curity of resources
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: is uh, this is not very productive. It just isn't.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 6: And I don't. Yeah, I part of me understands that.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 6: Part of me understands the frustration of not feeling well,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 6: of wanting to have things fixed. If it takes, you know,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 6: all of a sudden, I realize, Man, I've been really
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 6: angry for about three months, but I didn't realize how
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 6: angry I was until, you know, I really bark at
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 6: it money for something stupid that they did, And that's
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 6: not who I am. You know, we don't always recognize
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 6: that how we're feeling has been a gradual process good
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 6: to bread, and we need to be able to recognize
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 6: when things have not been especially good for us, and
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 6: then to figure out why why am I responding to
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 6: something this way? Why am I Why am I jumping
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 6: down somebody's throat when they they're just saying what they think.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 6: It's not going to mess up my day. You know,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 6: do I need to really really respond this vigorously to
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 6: a situation? I probably have talked about this quite some
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 6: time ago. You know. I had a friend and before
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 6: I came to Texas, who I've known for thirty forty years,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 6: and we were having a discussion, and I realized that
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 6: we had a substantial disagreement about what we were talking about,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 6: and that the intensity of conversation was becoming a little irrational.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: For our feelings are getting a little bit too much
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 6: in the way. And I think the question that I
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 6: had to ask myself, is having a blow up about
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 6: this particular subject is it worth losing the relationship over?
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 6: Sometimes it is. Sometimes our sense of values are so
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 6: diversion and are so far apart there's just no way
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 6: to bridge that back. Many times there is a way,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 6: and we can just regain a perspective of the years
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 6: that we've known somebody, the years that we've known ourselves.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 6: How do we how do we understand that when we
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 6: have disagreements, it doesn't mean that I'm wrong and they're right,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 6: or that they're wrong and I'm right. It just means
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 6: that we just don't agree and let it go.
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  Speaker 10: With that, I think there is said many times that
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 10: you know, there's lies and lies and scars are what
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 10: make us interest in people.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 6: We all we all have them, we all do it.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: How do we how do we maintain that sense of
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 6: balance and perspective? And I think there's no ANSWER's you know,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 6: every the answer to that is always an individual answer
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 6: and nobody else really knows it. As as a therapist,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 6: you know, I would we would talk about many things.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 6: A lot of times it would appear that the things
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: that we talked about had nothing to do with with
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 6: the issue that they had a lot to do with
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 6: the issue was thinking about a patient came in and
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 6: he'd been having some problems with his spouse and basically
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: it had evolved to a substantial disagreement about how you
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: put knives and sports in the dishwasher. Do you put
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 6: knives or the blades up? Or do you put knives
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 6: and the blades down? Do you put forks with the
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 6: times up or the times down? And where did this
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 6: come from? I mean, you're talking about a dickasher, you
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 6: know who unloads it. That's the person that should make
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: the decision. But it turns out that it had really
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 6: come from appearing in his adolescence when his responsibility was
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 6: to clean up after dinner, and apparently he never could.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: Do it right.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: He never never managed to get it done right. Nobody
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 6: ever said that was a good job, and he carried
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 6: that with him, and that colored that whole thing up
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: to this point in his relationship. And as we began
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: to talk about that, he started to laughing. I just
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 6: can't believe that that's what rove all this. Well. We
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 6: are products of our childhood and it does make a difference.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 6: But being able to go back and look at that
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 6: takes time. It's just like you with your supplements and
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 6: your nutritional things. It takes time.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 6: We have to heal ourselves and we have to be
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 6: willing to do some pretty intense work sometimes two to
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: get that. I had a patience some time ago, and
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 6: I don't know why I remember this this week that
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 6: I did, And he said I and I remembered this
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 6: almost forbade him. He said, you know, and I lacked
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 6: in a sense being happy. I said, what do you mean,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 6: You lack in essessionally such many things to be happy,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 6: but that one of the main things to be happy
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: is he said, I don't understand kindness. I don't understand
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 6: what people are nice to me puts me off. Well,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 6: it was a pretty profound bit of insight. And I
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 6: think as we as we age, we're able to afford
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: ourselves the luxury of these insights, and it gives us
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 6: a chance to look back and see, well, has this
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 6: really been a pattern in my life? As I I
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 6: has this really been a behavioral roadblock? But well, yeah
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 6: it has? Okay, Well, then the choice we have to
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 6: make is that we do we want to take the
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 6: time to do anything about it, that we just all
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 6: bit it is gonna matter anyway. It's a valid question,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 6: but it's it's still I think, to go through the
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 6: process of doing doing some inside work. And again, this
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 6: is something that we all can only do ourselves. Somebody
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 6: can maybe point us in the direction, but we're the
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 6: one that's gotta get in and dig around and see
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 6: what see what we come up with. Has this been
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 6: Has this been a part of my life for and
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 6: I said, but working out it's not. It hasn't made
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 6: me a happy person, so I need to I think
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 6: as we recognize some of these m I don't want
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 6: to use the word flaws, but as we recognize these
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 6: kinds of behavioral patterns, and then we have the then
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 6: we have the option to begin to change those patterns
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 6: so that we can find some sense of contentment within
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 6: ourselves as we age. I think that may be maybe
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 6: the goal is to find some sense of inner peace
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 6: that isn't really connected with what's going on around us.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 6: I'm trying it culturally or politically, but to find that
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 6: sense of inner peace we did ourselves as I age.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 6: I think maybe that's the whole point. We've had a
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 6: life kind of experience. What are we gonna do with it?
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: So does that mean when Susie treats me like we're married,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: I can divorce her.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 6: That's your choice.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you brought up some really good points. Because people
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: carry around a lot of stuff and they let stuff
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: build up. And sometimes I think, especially I know dealing
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: with patients, when they came to me for that kind
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: of stuff, I would see a whole different picture when
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: I talked to both sides than what they saw because
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: they were evolved in it. Yeah, and so I would
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: I would say, you know, I think you guys need
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: to just cool off. And it's hard when it's you.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: When I've been really blessed. There's a few times in
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: the last few years where I was able to ask
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: Susie or ask you before I wrote a letter or
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: responded to something what you guys thought, And a lot
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: of times your advice was not in my head. And
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: thank god I asked you guys, because I might have
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: said something that I would have regretted or felt bad
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: about later. And that happens all of us. Yeah, So,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: like you said, it's it's that inner stuff and only
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: you heal you and do you. I mean, we can
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: get to tools from people like you and me and
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: Susie to make things better, but you got to want
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: to do them. And that's that made me think. You know,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: like the patient that is talking to three or four people,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: if they'd just let me give those suggestions and try them,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: maybe they'd have been better and they wouldn't have needed
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: to talk to three or four people.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: But it's that I got.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 6: And on the other hand, you know, maybe they maybe
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: they're their fear of relying on one person has never
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 6: worked out for them, and it doesn't have anything to
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 6: do with healthcare. It could have been friendship, it could
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 6: have been relationship too. So if you if the more
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 6: information you get, the better person you are. Not always,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 6: but a lot of times. And I think people people
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 6: have a fear of becoming reliant on one person. It's
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 6: it's it's it's just a hard saying. And I think
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 6: it's a hard thing for folks to re begin to
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 6: address within themselves that, uh, how do how do I how?
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 6: You know, rust takes a long time to build and
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 6: if you've had a problem trusting folks your whole life,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 6: it ain't easy McGee. And we have to understand, you know,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 6: I ran into that all the time. That means, just
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 6: like you, we are the product of ourselves, and it's
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: not always a good product. How do a lot of
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 6: kincs the material there?
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: I agree, says he anything.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: Before we go to break, I was just thinking, you know,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: it reminds me of how some women I know are.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 5: You know, they're indecisive. It's it's hard to make a decision,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 5: and so you try to get several people's opinion and
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 5: weigh it with your own. If you don't have one,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 5: usually you don't have one. If you've got to rely
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 5: on someone to think for you. You know, I can't
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: tell you how many times you know, hanging out with
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: a with another woman, you know, going shopping and well,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 5: what about these shoes or what about these shoes or
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 5: what about this dress or these these jeans or this top?
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, make a decision, you know, if I
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 5: decide I need a pair of shoes, I walk into
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 5: the shoes department of my favorite place, and there's a few,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: because I do like shoes, and I look around and
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 5: I'm like, yep, that's it right there. I take it
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 5: to the counter and I say, can I have this
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 5: in a Jackie Kennedy size? And I buy them and
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 5: I walk out the door. I make a decision. So
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 5: that's one of the reasons I think people seek different
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 5: opinions because they don't know how to make a decision.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that, serison. I think that's that's absolutely right.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 6: And they're afraid that if they made something, somebody's gonna
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 6: make a decision, somebody's say, oh, that was wrong, you
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 6: shouldn't have done that wart and they're they're afraid of
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 6: being disapproved. And again that's that goes back to childhood.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: Sto. Yeah, I'm like you, Stuzzi, I usually already know
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: what I want. I just need to go look at
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: whatever my store is, or if I'm buying an online,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: but I I pretty much know what I want already.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 5: And why if anybody asking me what size to Jackie
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: Kennedy war.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I thought about that for a minute, and
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: uh then I wasn't sure if that was a good
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: question or not.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 6: You made a good choice. They're dark as a bad question.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: But Jackie Kennedy.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: Teen, Shaquille O'Neill.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: Was, wasn't she pretty fatite?
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: So when I was probably in junior going into high school,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 5: I mean going in my senior year, I wore size ten. Okay, so,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 5: oh thank you bill, She's not come in a size ten.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 5: And it was it was a nightmare for my mother,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 5: and she was glad when I turned sixteen. Here's the
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: shoe money, here's the car keys. Go knock yourself.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, side, and size ten is pretty big for a girl.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 5: It got to the point to where one day she
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 5: stood over me and I'm sitting there prescally in tears.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 5: She crosses her arms in front of me and she said,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 5: Susan kneeling, do you know what size shoe Jackie Kennedy wears?
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 5: And I was saying, know, she wears the sized pants
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 5: up fake suck it up.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: I love it. Oh cool? All right, guys, Well, after
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: that neat little story that will never leave my head,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: it is break time, so ladies and gentlemen, when we
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: come back, we'll have Susie's recipes and we'll try to
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: help her with the name of the company because she
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: usually blows it by about this time. So anyway, it
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: is break time doctor Krupa's Natural Health Hours, and we've
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: got Susie, Bill, myself and our producer Steve in the background.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: We will be right back.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: Worry about where your next meal will come from if
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  Speaker 1: All right, we are back. Welcome back to doctor Cooper's
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  Speaker 5: to the about page, scroll down about three quarters I think,
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  Speaker 5: and be reached at eight three zero three seven seven
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  Speaker 1: All right, TI get away Susie in the kitchen.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, well this is more like on the dairy farm
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  Speaker 5: today anyways. So Doc can get chocolate milk from his
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: Calico farms, I can't. I only can get the raw
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: milk and cream. So if you're, you know, got a
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 5: hanker in for chocolate milk, it doesn't do you any
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  Speaker 5: good to add, you know, like Hershey syrup to it.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 5: That's that's pretty bad stuff. I'm gonna do two recipes,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: so next Wednesday I'll share a Hershey chocolate syrup copycat
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 5: that I It's in my fridge all the time. So
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 5: with this, well, raw milk is nutritious, and you don't
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 5: you don't want to add heat to it. We talk
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 5: about you know, lose losing some of the nutrition when
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 5: you cook or bake with it. But you're still starting,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 5: you know, with a with a good clean product. So
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 5: because you're not heating this up and making a syrup
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 5: on your stovetop, you're just using hot water, you know,
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  Speaker 5: to preserve the nutrients in that raw milk. So you
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 5: want to take this makes you half a gallon, it'll
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 5: be a little over by the time it's done. And
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: you know, they've got some good milk jugs glass ones
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  Speaker 5: own on Amazon, and I've been considering getting.
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  Speaker 6: Some of those.
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  Speaker 5: But half a gallon of raw milk, and then you
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 5: want a quarter of a cup of unsweetened coco powder,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 5: and you know there's some there's many good organic brands.
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  Speaker 5: Amazon's got several, and of course you can get them
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 5: at the you know, the health food stores that carry groceries.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 5: And I just would say away from Hershey's cocoa powder,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 5: some of the ingredients are questionable and I'll leave it
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 5: at that. And uh, you know, you can do an
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 5: internet search on that and read up and see, I
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 5: see if there's a connection between Hershey's cocoa powder and
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  Speaker 5: heavy metals. So a quarter of a cup of unsweetened,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 5: good quality organic cocoa powder, quarter cup of sugar. Okay,
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: so you could use your raw hocaine sugar and it
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 5: will dissolve in the hot water, and a quarter teaspoon
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: of salt and not a quarter and eight. And what
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: that does is it accentuates the flavor, you know, the
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  Speaker 5: sweetness the cocoa, and then just a splash of vanilla
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 5: at bay splash you could do you know, a quarter
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  Speaker 5: of a teaspoon. So just mix all of your ingredients
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  Speaker 5: together aside from the milk, and then just continue to
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 5: stir it. I would use a with un till that
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 5: sugar has dissolved. Then you add this to your half
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 5: the gallon the milk, and whilet you've got raw chocolate milk.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 5: And like I genuinely always do, I'm going to put
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 5: this in the comments section of today's show and you
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 5: can refer back to it, but you'll have to copy
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 5: that link and paste it into another brow throw. So
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 5: the other thing that I try to keep on hand
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 5: because it keeps me away from the store box stuff
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 5: is raw ice cream. If you've got one of those
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 5: electric ice cream machines, it makes it a whole lot easier.
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  Speaker 5: Several years ago, I just lucked out got a queasin
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 5: art electric ice maker from a lady that had used
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 5: it once for a birthday party. And I had looked
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 5: online and I knew there were well over for one
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 5: hundred bucks, and I got this brand new machine for
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 5: twenty dollars for her. She just wanted to be gone,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 5: so I was thrilled. Anyways, the deals are out there,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 5: you can find them, maybe marketplace. So this is just
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 5: going to be a vanilla ice cream. And I've got
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 5: two different recipes that I go back and forth between.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 5: This one does have some whole milk in it twice
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 5: the cream is the milk, and I think it makes
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 5: for a softer, smoother consistency if it's got whole milk
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 5: in it. So again, super easy. This said organic sugar,
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 5: but you know, raw whole caine sugar two thirds of
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 5: a cup, one cup of raw milk, two cups of
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 5: raw cream. And for the life of me, I know
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 5: what a mobile pasture raised chickens and eggs is, But
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 5: come on, six eggs that you can trust, you know,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 5: from your farmer or your own chickens. And they do
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 5: get kudos here in this recipe a big pinch of
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 5: Celtic sea salt. Again, there's something about these folks that
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 5: say a splash of homemade vanilla. Well, but most people
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 5: ain't got no time for that. It takes a long time.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 5: Just a splash of good vanilla, not flavoring, but actual vanilla.
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  Speaker 5: You're going to put all of this into a bowl,
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  Speaker 5: just dump it all in and then with get really well.
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  Speaker 6: Well.
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  Speaker 5: And it kind of goes without saying that the insert
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 5: that goes into your electrics ice cream maker had to
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 5: have been in your freezer for at least twenty four
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 5: hours because you're gonna need it to stay cold for
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 5: you know, probably twenty or thirty minutes while it runs.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 5: I just keep mine in the freezer and I have
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 5: for several years and it's never had a problem with that.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 5: That way, it's ready when I'm ready. So this one,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 5: this one does change up the a recipe. When I'm
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 5: saying dump everything in the bowl, I was kind of
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 5: going with my other recipe in my head that is
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 5: doesn't have any whole milk, it just has the cream.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 5: And so it does say to put your sugar in
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 5: a heavy bodied bottom pot and turn the heat on
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 5: medium and stur just until it begins to melt. Says
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 5: to let it cool for two minutes, and that's that's
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 5: vital because you don't want the heat from that sugar
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 5: destroying the nutrients in the raw milk. And then you're
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 5: going to add your raw milk and stir until dissolved.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 5: It does say to strain out the remaining sugar bits.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 5: I would say that that was optional. Uh, there's not
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 5: going to be much of it. So then you're going
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 5: to add your sugar, add to your sugar and milk,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 5: your cream, and your egg, yolk, salt, and vanilla whiskey
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 5: it really well, and then poured into your ice maker
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 5: that you've i mean ice cream maker that you've already
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 5: got set up, and it has take this one as
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 5: well about twenty minutes, and you've got what I consider
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 5: a real food. It may be ice cream, but when
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 5: you consider the ingredients. I mean, I've told doctor before
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 5: I had ice cream for breakfast, and these elaughs and
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 5: says good for you because it's this kind. And again,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 5: just like the other recipe, I'm going to put that
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 5: into the comment section of Today's so you can reference
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  Speaker 5: that good.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds good sounds really good when I met Susie, ladies
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: and gentlemen. The list on the things that she would eat,
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: it's much much sharp than all those things that you
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: can imagine that she didn't eat. She had all kinds
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: of stuff she wouldn't touch. So hearing her eat ice
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  Speaker 1: cream for breakfast was a wonderful thing. Wonderful.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 5: You're getting your eggs and you're getting your milk. I mean,
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 5: it's just in a really nice cold, soothing source. That's
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 5: the way I figures.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and you got to have some vices. I mean,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: come on, you know, you just can't have everything perfect.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: That's like somebody said, all you really really perfectly healthy
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: people are gonna feel really silly when you're dying of
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: no cause, right, build anything on her recipes? No.
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  Speaker 6: I kind of brought back an event when I would kid.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 6: We went over some friends house for the family friends,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 6: and they had bought an ice ice cream maker. But
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 6: it was the kind that had the crank on the
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 6: top that you had to turn and if it wound
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 6: up that one that was my job. That was about
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 6: eight at that point, and I turned out something sort
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 6: of outwards and had books. I finally it seemed like
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 6: I was. It wasn't, but you know, the rock salt
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 6: around the outside and all the days on the inside,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 6: and cranked that thing and cranked that thing. Then then
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 6: they sliced up some fresh peaches and threw in there.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 6: It was pretty good, sounds good, good, Imber.
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  Speaker 5: They used kids for the cranking, you know, and it
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 5: was inevitable you would get a splash of salty water,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 5: you know, in the ice cream. I mean it always happened.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 5: But you know, I can remember doing this, you know,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 5: on my grandparents backsteps. You know, that's where they where
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 5: they made the ice cream. But I don't you know,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 5: if you don't have an ice cream maker and you
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 5: need like what four or five ingredients, at the thrill
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 5: of pouring that mixture in and then turning on the
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 5: electric ice maker and just let it go, oh it's fabulous.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 5: I didn't want to mentioned. You can get, you know,
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 5: at a whole store Amazon, some freezer friendly containers to
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 5: put your ice cream in.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: Interesting. I was watching one of my favorite guys that
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: I still don't know how he died, if it was
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: suicide or something mysterious, but Anthony Bourdain, and he used
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: to do travel show. He was funny he was a
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: good chef and he uh, he did a lot of
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: the He had no reservations, and he had two other
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: types that it shows that they did and they were
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: really funny. And I was thinking about it when we
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: teach you about Granny's possum fat. He was at a
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: place eating possum stew and he said it was really good.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they eat some stuff on there that I don't
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: think i'd want to try, but they said it was good.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: So have you guys ever had possum stew?
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 5: Well you're not going to believe this, but I just
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 5: want a tide to watch the hummers. You know, they're
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 5: they're eating frenzy. And right here on my deck about
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 5: fourth front four feet for me is a mama possum.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 5: And one day last week I came outside to feed,
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 5: you know, the outdoor kiddies, and they came running, and
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 5: I kid you not, this possum can run with him
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 5: like she thought she was just one of the cats.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 5: Feed me.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: That's funny. Well, I've been putting some food out like
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: you and Bill ruined me and got me doing that.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: And we have a raccoon, apossum, squirrel, blue jay and
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: a couple of kitty cats, and there's the possum and uh,
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: the raccoon I have not seen in over twenty something
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: years of living here anywhere. How do they know that
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: there was food out there? And where the hell did
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: they come from? I just blew my mind. And they're
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: cutest can be. So I don't know. How'd you know
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: it was a mama a possum?
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 5: Had it had what what'd you say about the mama? Possible?
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: How'd you know it was a mama? Did she have
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: the babies hanging on her? Not now?
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  Speaker 5: But about midsummer. I came outside at night to I
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 5: don't know, turn off some lights or whatever, and I
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 5: saw I've got a picture of her someone I try
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 5: to send it to you. Okay, up the steps and
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 5: she has several babies on her back. Yeah, I just
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 5: recognize her.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: That's cute. Hey, Bill, I sent you a picture that
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: Susie sent me that our producer in the background came
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: up with. You're still that well dressed, uh, very intelligent looking.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: All only to add a little humor, it has tele Bill,
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: your favorite your favorite thing? You know what I don't
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: like about to tell us stuff is a lot of
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: these places are hiring a doctor to get his rubber
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: stamp so they can push some very bad medications that
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: normally those people probably wouldn't get.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 6: And so.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: Tell a doctor, is this rubber stamp and a prescription
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: to go get their drugs, And everybody's making a fortune
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: and it's very bad for the patient in most cases.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 5: So that was another consequence of COVID.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 5: She even imagined that a time would come when governments
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 5: would shut down doctors, and doctors would shut down themselves
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 5: because they were afraid of someone that was sick.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I thought it was the funniest thing in
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: the world. Our association here in Texas sent out the
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: word to us to stand down, and I thought, do
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: you guys know that we're doctors and we treat thee
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: But what happened is somebody up there who only knows
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: chiropructic did not remember the word doctor, did not remember
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: that many of us treated the coronavirus very successfully, and
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: they're telling us you can't see patients unless it's really urgent.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: I thought it was the stupidest thing ever. I got
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: a milk question for you guys. Does milk raw milk
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: when it starts going bad? Is that how it turns
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: into buttermilk or is there a process?
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 5: No, that's not how it turns into buttermilk. I've heard.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 5: I've tried it. When it starts going bad, I poured
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 5: it on plants before instead of wasting it. But I
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 5: think it's very simple to make some cottage cheese out
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 5: of it. Of course you lose some well, you lose
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 5: a lot of the nutritional value. But like I like
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 5: to say, you're starting with a good product. And I
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 5: don't think it takes a ton of time to make it.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 5: And I don't know if you need any special ingredients
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 5: or not. But I didn't know people that make cottage
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 5: cheese from their milk that's jugginging. It doesn't go bad,
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 5: you've taught that. Forever it begins to sour a bit, Well,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 5: it hurt you to drink it. It just doesn't taste
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 5: like the freshly opened milk.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, what I do is I buy six or
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: seven gallons at a time, and I shake them real good,
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: and then I freeze them, and when one gets down
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: to about halfway, I start defrosting another one. But a
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, I don't know what happened, but
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: I noticed the taste was changing, and I said, well,
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to waste it unless it tastes really bad.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: I'm drinking it, but it's not near as enjoyable. You
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: get spoiled that fresh raw milk taste. Oh my god,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: it is so good this last week up there, Susy,
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: I went and Bill and the audience everybody. They had
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: vala pinot ranch dip. They had chive and cream cheese dip.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: They had pimento cheese. I don't know what pimento is.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: They had the chocolate milk pepper. What's that?
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: Is that what it is? I didn't know that. Oh,
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: how cool. Anyway, it tastes pretty good. And they had fudge,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: and they had eggs and honey keifer cream. I mean
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: they had everything. They were stocked to the guilt. The
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  Speaker 1: only thing they didn't have was goat milk. They had
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  Speaker 1: lots of cow milk though, And they had meat sausage cheeses.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of them, thinks, Susie. If
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  Speaker 1: you ever get a chance, or Bill, you ought to
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  Speaker 1: go there and just take some coolers with ice, and
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  Speaker 1: that'll keep it good for you on your trip back home.
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  Speaker 1: For you susy. It's a little further, but you could
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  Speaker 1: stock up and fill all them freezers, because didn't you
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: say you've got several freezers.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we got two chests. No, we got three chest
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  Speaker 5: freezers and two fridge freezers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to make one trip out there. You'd
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  Speaker 1: be in heaven. You'd be like a kid in a
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: candy store. Oh in the fudge. One of the fudges
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: was vanilla caramel Sea salt. Oh. I mean they gotta
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: have it in heaven. I'm sure it was that good.
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  Speaker 5: So I wanted to bring this up. I saw commercial
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  Speaker 5: and I couldn't believe my ears. So, you know, move
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 5: out of the way, toy milk and almond milk. There
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 5: now is pecan milk, and I can't imagine that difficult
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  Speaker 5: to milk.
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  Speaker 10: That's sad.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Our producer is really getting quick with these,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: him and that Ai buddy of his. And now I
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: have a picture of all three of us and looks
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: like sheep in the background. Oh cool, Bill, you got
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: to start turning your computer on during the show to
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: sleep and watch the screen. It's hilarious.
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  Speaker 6: I'd like you to turn it all during the day.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 6: I don't think I've had this on for a couple
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 6: of days.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's only that's only if you're listening and watching
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  Speaker 5: on Rumble.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. I forgot to say that part. Thank
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: you Susy. All right, guys, Well, while time went fast
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: to night, Steve, really good work you and Susie on
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: this stuff. So, guys, we have got a great team.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, we have got a great, great team here
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: and it is so cool. It's just an honor to
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: be here. And we added Switzerland this this last week,
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: so we had Switzerland, Ghana, UK, Chile, United States, I think, Canada, Australia.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: It was about ten nations. So if I miss any
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: of you in Spain, So if I miss any of you, guys,
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: I apologize. Thank you so much for listening all the
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: way around the world and here in the States. It
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: is a pleasure and an honor that you guys knew
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: this and we are humbled by it. So taking your
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: time out to listen to us. Is this really great?
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: And like I said, we hope it's a little fun,
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: a little entertaining, a little educating. Maybe give you some
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: things to think about, give you a recipe you didn't
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: have some deep insight from our Telebill and this cool stuff.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: So anyway, Susie, any last thing before we wrap it up.
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  Speaker 5: I'll tell you it was a good show.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Susie and the possum would like to say it
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: was a great show, guys. Bill, how about you?
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah? Good to go?
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, a lot of fun, guys. I sent
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: you that picture of the screen that Susie sent me
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: a Bill, so you can check your email whenever you
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: do and you'll see it out. Yeah, it's it's it
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: has tell Abill the cool little a'l. You'll see you
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: look great. Guys. You don't know this, but Bill's got
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: correct me if I get it wrong. Bill, but at
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: least two masters, one PhD and a license for working
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: with cycles or I mean psycho analysis, so that all
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: that all is pretty cool, and I mean you have
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: to see it. Bill. It's just it's very appropriate. But
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: the telepart was funny because you don't like Tello, uh,
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: and I'm not too crazy about the guys pushing drugs,
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: and I damn sure don't like doctor Phil bringing on
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: Batman and all this crazy stuff. He's really going downhill,
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: all right. Well, ladies and gentlemen, I know you, Jay,
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: Bill and Susie and Steve in our background. And again
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: if you need Steve for anything, it's eight three zero
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: nine nine eight four three eight one. And and if
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: you need Susie or Billy you have a question for me,
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: any of us, you can go to docgroupa dot com
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: and click on contact it. Susie built the website and
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: it is really cool. You need to go check it out.
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: And you can find a picture of her there even
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: if you'd like to see what our blonde beauty looks like.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: And there's no picture because he said something about post
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: office pictures he didn't want up there. I don't know anyway.
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  Speaker 1: May God bless you all with health and happiness, keep
• 2:00:32
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• 2:00:38
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  Speaker 7: Seems the love I've known has always been the most
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 7: destructive kind. Yes, that's why now I feel so opened.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: Before my time.
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  Speaker 7: Yesterday, when I was young, the taste of life was
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 7: sweeper as rain upon my tongue. I teased at length,
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 7: as if it were a foolish game. Away the evening
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 7: breeze may tease a candle flame. A thousand dreams. I dreamed,
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 7: the splendid things I planned. I always built to last
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 7: on weekend, shifting sand. I lived by night and shunned
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 7: the naked light of day. And only now I see
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 7: how they years rat away yesterday when I was young,
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 7: and so many for me songs and we're waiting to
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 7: be sung, and so many pleasures Layer stone un