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Trader Jack McKeon and '62 Mets Pitcher Craig Anderson · WGBB Sports Talk New York

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  Trader
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  Jack,
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  Jack
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  McKeon.
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  Jack,
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  welcome.
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  Thank
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  you,
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  thank
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  you.
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  with
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  you.
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  have
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  you.
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  Jack.
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  Now
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  folks
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  may
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  not
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  know
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  that
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  you're
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  a
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  local
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  guy
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  New
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  Jersey,
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  grew
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  up
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  in
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  South
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  Who
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  were
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  sports
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  heroes
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  were
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  a
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  Jack
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  Bill
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  Phil
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  There
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  JACK
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  well,
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  in
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  JACK
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  well,
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  you
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  well,
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  you
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  I
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  one
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  kind
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  in
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  the
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  leagues
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  a
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  few
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  years
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  hit
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  left
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  and
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  So
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  I
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  scouted
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  myself
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  a
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  realized,
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  you
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  know,
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  in
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  those
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  days
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  you
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  had
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  guys
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  and
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  Joe
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  Garrigiola
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  those
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  all
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  you
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  know,
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  the,
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  the
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  guys
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  hitting.300.
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  in
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  order
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  to,
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  to
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  the
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  you
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  you
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  know,
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  That
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  a
• 3:52
  goal,
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  you
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  know,
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  the
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  level
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  that
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  everybody
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  looked
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  to
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  as
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  far
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  as
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  advancing
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  their
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  career.
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  Now
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  it's,
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  you
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  know,
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  now
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  it's
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  home
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  runs.
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  those
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  days
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  it
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  you
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  moved
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  up
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  quick,
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  you
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  know,
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  and
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  I
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  was
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  at
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  my
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  weight
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  180,
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  so.
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  So
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  I,
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  I
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  was
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  with
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  Danny
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  Murdaugh
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  down
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  in
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  New
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  Orleans
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  One
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  year
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  in
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  19,
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  I
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  1953,
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  something
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  like
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  that.
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  And
• 4:18
  watching
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  I
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  was
• 4:19
  going
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  on
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  the
• 4:20
  field
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  and
• 4:20
  spring
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  training
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  with
• 4:21
  him
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  and
• 4:21
  watching
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  Howie
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  talked
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  to
• 4:24
  the
• 4:24
  infielders
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  and
• 4:25
  the
• 4:26
  outfielders
• 4:26
  and
• 4:26
  stuff.
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  And
• 4:27
  I
• 4:27
  was
• 4:27
  trying
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  to
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  get,
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  you
• 4:28
  know,
• 4:28
  get
• 4:28
  the
• 4:28
  knowledge
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  of
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  the
• 4:30
  game
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  because
• 4:31
  I
• 4:31
  realized
• 4:31
  then
• 4:31
  that
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  I
• 4:32
  wanted
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  to
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  stay
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  in
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  the
• 4:32
  game
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  and
• 4:33
  like,
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  I
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  didn't
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  think
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  I
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  could
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  make
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  the
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  big
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  leagues
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  in
• 4:36
  as
• 4:36
  a
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  player.
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  I
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  figured,
• 4:37
  well,
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  I'll,
• 4:38
  you
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  know,
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  change
• 4:39
  my
• 4:39
  goal
• 4:39
  and
• 4:40
  try
• 4:40
  to
• 4:40
  make
• 4:40
  it
• 4:40
  as
• 4:40
  advantages.
• 4:41
  So
• 4:41
  I
• 4:41
  kind
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  of
• 4:42
  hung
• 4:42
  around
• 4:43
  with
• 4:43
  Danny
• 4:43
  and
• 4:43
  picked
• 4:44
  up
• 4:44
  all
• 4:44
  this
• 4:46
  possible
• 4:47
  pointers
• 4:47
  I
• 4:47
  could.
• 4:48
  And
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  he
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  ended
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  up
• 4:50
  and
• 4:51
  recommended
• 4:51
  me
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  to
• 4:52
  Mr.
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  Ricky
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  to
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  be
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  a
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  manager.
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  eventually,
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  Years
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  later,
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  at
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  old,
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  was
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  not
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  my
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  first
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  manager's
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  job
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  in
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  the
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  Carolina
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  link.
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  not
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  too
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  bad.
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  And
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  not
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  a
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  bad
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  guy
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  to
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  have
• 5:08
  as
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  a
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  mentor.
• 5:09
  Jack.
• 5:10
  Danny
• 5:10
  Murtaugh.
• 5:11
  You
• 5:11
  kids
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  out
• 5:12
  there,
• 5:12
  Google
• 5:12
  Danny
• 5:13
  Murtaugh.
• 5:13
  Great
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  manager
• 5:14
  for
• 5:14
  the
• 5:15
  Pittsburgh
• 5:15
  Pirates.
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  Just
• 5:17
  a
• 5:17
  great
• 5:17
  baseball
• 5:18
  man.
• 5:19
  Now,
• 5:20
  Jack,
• 5:20
  in
• 5:21
  73
• 5:22
  with
• 5:22
  the
• 5:22
  royals.
• 5:23
  You
• 5:23
  guys
• 5:24
  had
• 5:24
  a
• 5:24
  nice
• 5:24
  year
• 5:25
  that
• 5:25
  year.
• 5:26
  Yeah,
• 5:26
  it
• 5:27
  was
• 5:27
  the
• 5:27
  first
• 5:27
  time,
• 5:27
  I
• 5:27
  think
• 5:28
  the
• 5:28
  club
• 5:28
  finished
• 5:28
  over.500.
• 5:29
  We
• 5:29
  were
• 5:30
  really
• 5:31
  went
• 5:31
  down
• 5:32
  to
• 5:32
  the
• 5:32
  last
• 5:32
  week
• 5:32
  of
• 5:33
  the
• 5:33
  season.
• 5:33
  Played
• 5:33
  the
• 5:34
  Oakland
• 5:35
  A's
• 5:35
  and,
• 5:35
  you
• 5:35
  know,
• 5:35
  Catfish
• 5:36
  Hunter
• 5:36
  and
• 5:37
  all
• 5:37
  those
• 5:38
  guys,
• 5:39
  Holtzman.
• 5:40
  And
• 5:41
  we
• 5:41
  had
• 5:41
  a
• 5:41
  four
• 5:42
  game
• 5:42
  series
• 5:42
  and
• 5:42
  they
• 5:43
  took
• 5:43
  us
• 5:43
  three
• 5:43
  out
• 5:43
  of
• 5:43
  four
• 5:44
  and
• 5:44
  kind
• 5:44
  of
• 5:44
  knocked
• 5:44
  us
• 5:45
  out.
• 5:45
  So
• 5:45
  we
• 5:45
  finished
• 5:46
  up,
• 5:46
  you
• 5:46
  know,
• 5:47
  about
• 5:47
  a
• 5:47
  game
• 5:47
  and
• 5:48
  a
• 5:48
  half
• 5:48
  or
• 5:48
  two
• 5:48
  out
• 5:48
  of
• 5:48
  first
• 5:49
  place
• 5:49
  and
• 5:50
  lost
• 5:50
  the
• 5:51
  division
• 5:51
  that
• 5:52
  year.
• 5:53
  Yeah.
• 5:53
  We're
• 5:53
  talking
• 5:53
  with
• 5:54
  Jack
• 5:54
  McKeon
• 5:54
  tonight
• 5:55
  on
• 5:55
  Sports
• 5:56
  Talk
• 5:56
  New
• 5:56
  York.
• 5:57
  Now,
• 5:57
  you
• 5:57
  managed
• 5:58
  in
• 5:58
  the
• 5:59
  Oakland
• 5:59
  Athletics
• 6:00
  organization,
• 6:01
  Jackson.
• 6:02
  So
• 6:02
  you
• 6:02
  worked
• 6:02
  for
• 6:03
  Charles
• 6:03
  O.
• 6:04
  Finley.
• 6:04
  Now,
• 6:04
  I've
• 6:05
  spoken
• 6:05
  to
• 6:06
  some
• 6:06
  Athletics
• 6:07
  in
• 6:07
  the
• 6:08
  past
• 6:08
  and
• 6:10
  they
• 6:10
  didn't
• 6:10
  have
• 6:11
  such
• 6:11
  great
• 6:11
  Things
• 6:11
  to
• 6:12
  say
• 6:12
  about
• 6:12
  Mr.
• 6:12
  Finley.
• 6:14
  What
• 6:14
  was
• 6:15
  your
• 6:15
  experience
• 6:15
  with
• 6:16
  Charlie
• 6:16
  O.
• 6:17
  Well,
• 6:17
  it
• 6:18
  was
• 6:18
  a
• 6:18
  great
• 6:18
  experience
• 6:19
  really.
• 6:19
  I
• 6:19
  managed
• 6:20
  twice
• 6:20
  for
• 6:20
  him.
• 6:21
  I
• 6:21
  managed
• 6:21
  the
• 6:21
  first
• 6:22
  year
• 6:22
  I
• 6:23
  replaced
• 6:24
  Chuck
• 6:24
  Tannery,
• 6:25
  if
• 6:25
  you
• 6:25
  remember,
• 6:25
  and
• 6:25
  he
• 6:25
  traded
• 6:26
  Chuck
• 6:26
  to
• 6:26
  Pittsburgh.
• 6:27
  So
• 6:28
  I
• 6:28
  ended
• 6:29
  up
• 6:29
  managing
• 6:30
  with
• 6:30
  him
• 6:30
  and
• 6:31
  I
• 6:31
  was
• 6:31
  26
• 6:31
  and
• 6:32
  27.
• 6:33
  You
• 6:33
  know,
• 6:34
  we
• 6:34
  had
• 6:34
  traded
• 6:34
  everybody
• 6:35
  on
• 6:35
  the
• 6:35
  club,
• 6:35
  Reggie
• 6:36
  and
• 6:37
  Rudy
• 6:37
  and
• 6:38
  Mando
• 6:39
  and
• 6:39
  all
• 6:39
  those
• 6:39
  guys
• 6:39
  and
• 6:39
  we
• 6:40
  had
• 6:40
  a
• 6:40
  triple
• 6:40
  A
• 6:40
  call
• 6:41
  and
• 6:41
  I
• 6:42
  was
• 6:42
  26
• 6:42
  and
• 6:43
  27
• 6:43
  and
• 6:43
  he
• 6:43
  fired
• 6:44
  me.
• 6:44
  Yeah.
• 6:45
  And
• 6:46
  then
• 6:46
  he
• 6:46
  said,
• 6:46
  how
• 6:46
  about
• 6:47
  staying
• 6:47
  on
• 6:47
  as
• 6:47
  the
• 6:48
  assistant
• 6:48
  general
• 6:48
  managers?
• 6:49
  Which
• 6:49
  I
• 6:49
  did
• 6:50
  because
• 6:50
  what
• 6:50
  are
• 6:50
  we
• 6:50
  going
• 6:50
  to
• 6:50
  do,
• 6:51
  you
• 6:51
  know.
• 6:52
  So
• 6:52
  I
• 6:52
  hung
• 6:52
  out
• 6:53
  and
• 6:53
  then
• 6:53
  at
• 6:54
  the
• 6:54
  end
• 6:54
  of
• 6:54
  the
• 6:54
  season
• 6:55
  he
• 6:56
  called
• 6:56
  me
• 6:56
  again
• 6:57
  and
• 6:57
  said,
• 6:57
  well,
• 6:57
  I'll
• 6:57
  be
• 6:57
  in
• 6:58
  the
• 6:58
  third
• 6:58
  base
• 6:58
  coach
• 6:58
  next
• 6:59
  year.
• 6:59
  I
• 6:59
  said,
• 6:59
  fine.
• 7:00
  When
• 7:00
  I
• 7:00
  was
• 7:01
  the
• 7:01
  third
• 7:01
  base
• 7:01
  coach,
• 7:02
  Bobby
• 7:02
  Winkles
• 7:02
  was
• 7:03
  the
• 7:03
  manager
• 7:03
  that
• 7:04
  he
• 7:04
  went
• 7:04
  about
• 7:05
  the
• 7:05
  first
• 7:06
  month
• 7:07
  of
• 7:07
  the
• 7:07
  season
• 7:08
  and
• 7:08
  he
• 7:09
  quit
• 7:09
  and
• 7:09
  Charlie
• 7:10
  fired
• 7:10
  him
• 7:11
  and
• 7:11
  I
• 7:11
  became
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  manager
• 7:12
  again.
• 7:13
  But
• 7:14
  with
• 7:15
  Charlie
• 7:15
  it
• 7:15
  was,
• 7:16
  you
• 7:16
  had
• 7:16
  A,
• 7:17
  you
• 7:17
  had
• 7:18
  to
• 7:18
  figure
• 7:18
  out
• 7:18
  option
• 7:19
  A,
• 7:19
  B,
• 7:19
  C
• 7:20
  and
• 7:20
  D
• 7:20
  because
• 7:21
  you're
• 7:21
  going
• 7:21
  to
• 7:21
  be
• 7:21
  wrong
• 7:22
  at
• 7:22
  every
• 7:22
  one.
• 7:23
  And
• 7:23
  every
• 7:23
  morning,
• 7:24
  every
• 7:24
  morning
• 7:25
  at
• 7:25
  6
• 7:25
  o',
• 7:25
  clock,
• 7:25
  I
• 7:26
  mean
• 7:26
  I
• 7:26
  feel
• 7:26
  I
• 7:26
  could,
• 7:27
  I
• 7:27
  could
• 7:27
  sit
• 7:27
  here
• 7:28
  and,
• 7:28
  and
• 7:28
  talk
• 7:29
  for
• 7:29
  three
• 7:29
  hours
• 7:29
  on
• 7:30
  stories
• 7:30
  on
• 7:30
  Sorry,
• 7:31
  Philly.
• 7:31
  But
• 7:31
  you
• 7:32
  know,
• 7:32
  it
• 7:32
  was
• 7:32
  kind
• 7:32
  of
• 7:32
  guy,
• 7:33
  he
• 7:33
  was,
• 7:33
  he
• 7:34
  was,
• 7:34
  he
• 7:34
  used
• 7:34
  to
• 7:34
  always
• 7:35
  say,
• 7:35
  I
• 7:35
  am
• 7:35
  not
• 7:36
  only
• 7:36
  the
• 7:37
  owner,
• 7:37
  but
• 7:38
  I'm
• 7:38
  the
• 7:38
  general
• 7:38
  manager
• 7:39
  and
• 7:39
  I'm
• 7:39
  the
• 7:40
  part
• 7:40
  manager.
• 7:41
  So
• 7:41
  don't
• 7:41
  do
• 7:42
  it
• 7:42
  away.
• 7:42
  Don't
• 7:42
  do
• 7:43
  it.
• 7:43
  If
• 7:43
  you
• 7:43
  don't
• 7:44
  do
• 7:44
  it
• 7:44
  my
• 7:44
  way,
• 7:44
  you
• 7:45
  does
• 7:45
  the
• 7:45
  highway.
• 7:46
  So
• 7:48
  anyway,
• 7:48
  I
• 7:48
  got,
• 7:49
  I
• 7:50
  got
• 7:50
  to
• 7:50
  finish
• 7:51
  two
• 7:51
  years
• 7:52
  in
• 7:52
  Oakland
• 7:52
  with
• 7:52
  him.
• 7:53
  But
• 7:53
  I
• 7:53
  mean
• 7:54
  I,
• 7:54
  I
• 7:55
  don't
• 7:55
  have
• 7:55
  enough
• 7:55
  time
• 7:55
  to
• 7:56
  tell
• 7:56
  you
• 7:56
  the
• 7:56
  stories.
• 7:57
  How
• 7:57
  crazy,
• 7:58
  how
• 7:58
  crazy
• 7:59
  was.
• 7:59
  I
• 7:59
  mean,
• 7:59
  yeah,
• 8:00
  but
• 8:01
  you
• 8:01
  know,
• 8:02
  every
• 8:02
  morning,
• 8:02
  six
• 8:03
  o'
• 8:03
  clock
• 8:03
  I
• 8:03
  get
• 8:03
  a
• 8:04
  phone
• 8:04
  call
• 8:04
  whether
• 8:05
  we
• 8:05
  win
• 8:05
  or
• 8:05
  lose.
• 8:06
  And
• 8:06
  he
• 8:06
  pre
• 8:07
  kicked
• 8:07
  the
• 8:07
  game.
• 8:08
  Now
• 8:08
  you
• 8:08
  got
• 8:08
  to
• 8:08
  remember
• 8:09
  he
• 8:09
  had
• 8:09
  this
• 8:09
  guy,
• 8:10
  MC
• 8:10
  Hammer,
• 8:11
  16
• 8:11
  year
• 8:12
  old
• 8:12
  kid,
• 8:12
  right?
• 8:13
  Broadcast,
• 8:13
  broadcasting
• 8:14
  the
• 8:14
  games
• 8:15
  from
• 8:15
  Oakland
• 8:16
  to
• 8:16
  Charlie
• 8:16
  in
• 8:16
  Chicago.
• 8:18
  And
• 8:19
  you
• 8:19
  know,
• 8:19
  the
• 8:20
  kid
• 8:20
  would
• 8:20
  tell
• 8:20
  him,
• 8:22
  the
• 8:23
  picture's
• 8:23
  losing
• 8:23
  it,
• 8:23
  there's
• 8:24
  nobody
• 8:24
  warming
• 8:24
  up.
• 8:24
  And
• 8:25
  Charlie,
• 8:25
  pick
• 8:25
  up
• 8:26
  the
• 8:26
  phone,
• 8:26
  call
• 8:26
  me
• 8:26
  and
• 8:27
  get
• 8:27
  somebody
• 8:28
  ready
• 8:28
  down
• 8:28
  there.
• 8:31
  But
• 8:31
  anyway,
• 8:32
  it
• 8:33
  was,
• 8:33
  it
• 8:33
  was
• 8:33
  an
• 8:33
  experience
• 8:34
  and,
• 8:35
  but
• 8:36
  I,
• 8:36
  you
• 8:36
  know,
• 8:37
  after
• 8:37
  my
• 8:37
  second
• 8:38
  time
• 8:38
  with
• 8:38
  him,
• 8:39
  I
• 8:39
  got
• 8:40
  to
• 8:40
  realize
• 8:40
  there's
• 8:40
  no
• 8:41
  sense
• 8:41
  arguing
• 8:41
  with
• 8:41
  you.
• 8:41
  I
• 8:42
  just.
• 8:42
  He
• 8:42
  tells
• 8:43
  you
• 8:43
  you're
• 8:43
  wrong
• 8:43
  on
• 8:43
  everything
• 8:44
  you
• 8:44
  do.
• 8:44
  So
• 8:45
  I
• 8:45
  just
• 8:45
  said,
• 8:45
  you
• 8:46
  know,
• 8:46
  Charlie,
• 8:46
  you're
• 8:47
  right,
• 8:47
  I
• 8:47
  should
• 8:47
  have
• 8:47
  done
• 8:48
  that.
• 8:48
  He
• 8:48
  said,
• 8:48
  well,
• 8:49
  that's
• 8:49
  okay.
• 8:49
  You
• 8:50
  know,
• 8:50
  we
• 8:50
  all
• 8:50
  make
• 8:50
  mistakes.
• 8:51
  So
• 8:51
  from
• 8:51
  then
• 8:51
  on,
• 8:52
  I
• 8:52
  had
• 8:52
  a
• 8:52
  great
• 8:52
  relationship
• 8:53
  with
• 8:53
  him
• 8:53
  because
• 8:53
  I
• 8:54
  disagreed
• 8:54
  with
• 8:54
  him,
• 8:55
  even
• 8:55
  though
• 8:55
  he
• 8:55
  was
• 8:56
  wrong.
• 8:56
  But.
• 8:57
  But
• 8:59
  it
• 8:59
  was
• 8:59
  quite
• 9:00
  an
• 9:00
  experience.
• 9:00
  Everybody,
• 9:01
  every
• 9:01
  manager,
• 9:02
  should
• 9:02
  have
• 9:02
  to
• 9:02
  go
• 9:03
  spend
• 9:03
  a
• 9:03
  year
• 9:03
  managing
• 9:04
  for
• 9:04
  him.
• 9:05
  He'll
• 9:05
  become
• 9:06
  a
• 9:06
  better
• 9:06
  manager,
• 9:06
  I'll
• 9:07
  tell
• 9:07
  you
• 9:07
  that.
• 9:08
  There
• 9:08
  you
• 9:08
  go,
• 9:08
  folks.
• 9:09
  Charlie
• 9:09
  o'.
• 9:09
  Finley,
• 9:10
  and
• 9:10
  you
• 9:10
  kids
• 9:10
  can
• 9:11
  look
• 9:11
  him
• 9:11
  up,
• 9:11
  too.
• 9:11
  He's
• 9:12
  the
• 9:12
  gentleman
• 9:13
  that
• 9:14
  tried
• 9:14
  to
• 9:14
  bring
• 9:15
  orange
• 9:15
  baseballs
• 9:17
  into
• 9:17
  Major
• 9:17
  League
• 9:18
  Baseball,
• 9:19
  among
• 9:19
  other
• 9:19
  things,
• 9:20
  among
• 9:20
  other
• 9:21
  gimmicks,
• 9:21
  the
• 9:22
  mustaches
• 9:23
  on
• 9:23
  the
• 9:23
  Oakland
• 9:23
  A's.
• 9:25
  Just
• 9:25
  a
• 9:25
  plethora
• 9:26
  of
• 9:26
  things
• 9:26
  that
• 9:28
  Jack
• 9:28
  just
• 9:28
  touched
• 9:29
  the
• 9:29
  surface
• 9:29
  on.
• 9:30
  Now
• 9:31
  with
• 9:31
  San
• 9:31
  Diego,
• 9:32
  Jack,
• 9:32
  you
• 9:33
  moved
• 9:33
  into
• 9:33
  the
• 9:33
  front
• 9:34
  office
• 9:34
  there.
• 9:35
  That's
• 9:35
  where
• 9:35
  you
• 9:35
  got
• 9:36
  the
• 9:36
  nickname
• 9:36
  Trader
• 9:37
  Jack,
• 9:37
  right?
• 9:38
  That's
• 9:39
  correct.
• 9:40
  I
• 9:40
  was
• 9:40
  managing
• 9:41
  for
• 9:43
  Denver,
• 9:43
  Denver
• 9:44
  Bears.
• 9:44
  And
• 9:44
  I
• 9:45
  got
• 9:45
  a
• 9:45
  call
• 9:45
  from
• 9:45
  John
• 9:46
  McHale,
• 9:46
  who
• 9:47
  I
• 9:47
  was.
• 9:47
  He
• 9:48
  was
• 9:48
  growing
• 9:48
  me
• 9:48
  to
• 9:49
  be
• 9:49
  the
• 9:49
  manager
• 9:49
  of
• 9:49
  Montreal.
• 9:51
  And
• 9:51
  he
• 9:52
  said,
• 9:52
  I
• 9:52
  just
• 9:52
  got
• 9:52
  a
• 9:53
  call
• 9:53
  from,
• 9:54
  gave
• 9:54
  permission
• 9:55
  to
• 9:55
  San
• 9:55
  Diego
• 9:55
  to
• 9:56
  talk
• 9:56
  to
• 9:56
  you.
• 9:56
  And
• 9:56
  I
• 9:56
  said,
• 9:57
  tom,
• 9:57
  I
• 9:58
  don't
• 9:58
  want
• 9:58
  to
• 9:58
  go
• 9:58
  over
• 9:58
  there.
• 9:58
  They're
• 9:59
  bad.
• 10:00
  You
• 10:00
  can't
• 10:00
  win.
• 10:01
  No,
• 10:01
  he
• 10:01
  said,
• 10:01
  go
• 10:01
  over
• 10:02
  there
• 10:02
  and
• 10:02
  listen
• 10:02
  to
• 10:02
  him.
• 10:03
  He
• 10:03
  said,
• 10:03
  it's
• 10:04
  something
• 10:04
  you
• 10:05
  might
• 10:05
  be
• 10:05
  interested
• 10:05
  in.
• 10:06
  So
• 10:06
  I
• 10:06
  went
• 10:07
  over
• 10:07
  there
• 10:07
  and
• 10:07
  I
• 10:07
  became
• 10:08
  assistant
• 10:08
  general
• 10:09
  manager.
• 10:10
  And
• 10:10
  about
• 10:10
  the
• 10:10
  middle
• 10:11
  of
• 10:11
  the
• 10:11
  season,
• 10:12
  they
• 10:12
  fired
• 10:13
  Bob
• 10:13
  Fontaine,
• 10:14
  the
• 10:14
  general
• 10:14
  manager,
• 10:15
  and
• 10:16
  they
• 10:16
  appointed
• 10:16
  me
• 10:16
  as
• 10:17
  the
• 10:18
  interim
• 10:19
  gm.
• 10:20
  And
• 10:20
  Ray
• 10:21
  Krot
• 10:21
  was
• 10:21
  the
• 10:21
  owner
• 10:22
  of
• 10:22
  the
• 10:22
  club.
• 10:22
  And
• 10:22
  Ray
• 10:22
  said.
• 10:23
  When
• 10:24
  I
• 10:24
  met
• 10:24
  with
• 10:24
  him
• 10:24
  the
• 10:24
  first
• 10:25
  time,
• 10:25
  he
• 10:25
  said,
• 10:25
  you're
• 10:25
  not
• 10:25
  going
• 10:26
  to
• 10:26
  get
• 10:26
  the
• 10:26
  job
• 10:26
  now
• 10:27
  because
• 10:27
  I'm
• 10:28
  going
• 10:28
  to
• 10:28
  go
• 10:28
  from
• 10:28
  experienced
• 10:29
  guy
• 10:29
  and
• 10:29
  everything
• 10:30
  like
• 10:30
  that.
• 10:31
  In
• 10:31
  the
• 10:31
  meantime,
• 10:32
  he
• 10:32
  said,
• 10:32
  do
• 10:33
  whatever
• 10:33
  you
• 10:33
  think
• 10:33
  is
• 10:33
  right
• 10:34
  and
• 10:34
  don't
• 10:34
  even
• 10:34
  tell
• 10:34
  me.
• 10:35
  Well,
• 10:35
  that's
• 10:36
  how
• 10:36
  I
• 10:36
  got
• 10:36
  the
• 10:36
  nickname
• 10:36
  Trader
• 10:37
  Jack,
• 10:37
  because
• 10:38
  we
• 10:38
  had
• 10:38
  a
• 10:38
  whole
• 10:38
  bunch
• 10:39
  of
• 10:39
  goats.
• 10:39
  We
• 10:39
  had
• 10:39
  a
• 10:39
  bunch
• 10:40
  of
• 10:40
  goats
• 10:40
  over
• 10:40
  there,
• 10:40
  old
• 10:41
  guys
• 10:41
  that
• 10:41
  were
• 10:42
  about
• 10:42
  the
• 10:42
  end
• 10:42
  of
• 10:42
  their
• 10:42
  career.
• 10:43
  And
• 10:43
  I
• 10:44
  started
• 10:44
  weeding
• 10:44
  him
• 10:45
  out
• 10:45
  and
• 10:45
  trading
• 10:45
  them,
• 10:46
  getting
• 10:46
  rid
• 10:46
  of
• 10:46
  them,
• 10:46
  bringing
• 10:47
  up
• 10:47
  some
• 10:47
  young
• 10:47
  kids.
• 10:47
  And
• 10:48
  the
• 10:48
  club
• 10:48
  started
• 10:48
  to
• 10:48
  progress
• 10:49
  a
• 10:49
  little
• 10:49
  bit.
• 10:50
  And
• 10:50
  all
• 10:50
  these
• 10:50
  guys
• 10:51
  are
• 10:51
  passing
• 10:52
  my
• 10:52
  office
• 10:52
  in
• 10:53
  San
• 10:53
  Diego.
• 10:54
  Dean
• 10:54
  Mock
• 10:55
  and
• 10:55
  Cedric
• 10:56
  Tallis,
• 10:56
  Lou
• 10:57
  Gorman.
• 10:57
  And
• 10:57
  all
• 10:57
  these
• 10:58
  guys
• 10:58
  are
• 10:58
  saying,
• 10:58
  you
• 10:59
  know,
• 10:59
  hi.
• 10:59
  Hello,
• 10:59
  Jack.
• 11:00
  Hey.
• 11:00
  And
• 11:01
  I'll
• 11:01
  be
• 11:01
  an
• 11:01
  interviewer.
• 11:02
  And
• 11:02
  finally,
• 11:03
  about
• 11:04
  three,
• 11:05
  two,
• 11:05
  three
• 11:05
  months
• 11:06
  later,
• 11:07
  Ray
• 11:07
  called
• 11:07
  me
• 11:07
  down
• 11:08
  to
• 11:08
  the
• 11:08
  office,
• 11:08
  and
• 11:08
  he
• 11:08
  said,
• 11:10
  we've
• 11:10
  interviewed
• 11:11
  all
• 11:11
  these
• 11:11
  guys,
• 11:12
  and
• 11:12
  they
• 11:12
  tell
• 11:12
  us
• 11:12
  what,
• 11:12
  you
• 11:13
  know,
• 11:13
  what
• 11:13
  they
• 11:13
  could
• 11:13
  do.
• 11:14
  He
• 11:14
  said,
• 11:14
  you
• 11:14
  already
• 11:14
  showed
• 11:15
  us
• 11:15
  what
• 11:15
  you
• 11:15
  could
• 11:15
  do.
• 11:16
  Do
• 11:16
  you
• 11:16
  want
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  job?
• 11:16
  So
• 11:17
  that's
• 11:17
  how
• 11:17
  I
• 11:17
  ended
• 11:17
  up
• 11:18
  getting
• 11:19
  a
• 11:19
  job
• 11:19
  in
• 11:20
  San
• 11:21
  Diego.
• 11:22
  You
• 11:22
  drafted
• 11:23
  guys
• 11:23
  like
• 11:23
  Tony
• 11:24
  Gwynn
• 11:24
  Kevin
• 11:24
  McReynolds.
• 11:25
  Right.
• 11:25
  And
• 11:26
  you
• 11:26
  signed
• 11:27
  free
• 11:28
  agents
• 11:28
  like
• 11:28
  Garvey,
• 11:30
  Goose,
• 11:30
  Gossage,
• 11:32
  and
• 11:32
  you
• 11:33
  really
• 11:33
  molded
• 11:34
  that
• 11:34
  team
• 11:34
  into
• 11:35
  a
• 11:36
  wonderful
• 11:36
  ball
• 11:36
  club.
• 11:38
  Well,
• 11:38
  that's
• 11:38
  the
• 11:38
  thing.
• 11:39
  Ray
• 11:39
  Clark,
• 11:39
  when
• 11:39
  I
• 11:39
  got
• 11:40
  over
• 11:40
  there,
• 11:40
  Ray
• 11:40
  Truck
• 11:40
  says,
• 11:41
  hey,
• 11:41
  how
• 11:42
  many
• 11:42
  years
• 11:42
  does
• 11:42
  it
• 11:43
  take
• 11:43
  to
• 11:43
  take
• 11:43
  to
• 11:43
  get.
• 11:43
  To
• 11:44
  get
• 11:44
  to
• 11:44
  the
• 11:44
  World
• 11:45
  Series?
• 11:45
  I
• 11:45
  said,
• 11:45
  ray,
• 11:46
  it's
• 11:46
  going
• 11:46
  to
• 11:46
  take
• 11:46
  me
• 11:46
  five
• 11:46
  years.
• 11:47
  Because
• 11:47
  we
• 11:48
  had
• 11:48
  never
• 11:48
  had
• 11:48
  a
• 11:48
  club
• 11:48
  that
• 11:49
  was
• 11:49
  500.
• 11:49
  Yeah.
• 11:50
  And
• 11:50
  we
• 11:50
  ended.
• 11:51
  We
• 11:51
  ended
• 11:51
  up
• 11:51
  getting
• 11:51
  there
• 11:52
  in
• 11:52
  four.
• 11:52
  But
• 11:53
  I,
• 11:53
  you
• 11:53
  know,
• 11:54
  Ray
• 11:54
  was
• 11:55
  a
• 11:55
  great,
• 11:55
  great
• 11:55
  owner.
• 11:56
  Never
• 11:56
  bothered
• 11:56
  you,
• 11:57
  and
• 11:58
  was
• 11:59
  really.
• 11:59
  The
• 11:59
  cat
• 12:00
  was
• 12:00
  in
• 12:00
  signing
• 12:01
  Garvey
• 12:01
  and
• 12:01
  Gossage.
• 12:02
  When
• 12:03
  I
• 12:03
  was
• 12:05
  reading
• 12:05
  with
• 12:06
  the
• 12:06
  agent,
• 12:06
  Jerry
• 12:07
  Capstein,
• 12:07
  and
• 12:09
  he
• 12:09
  was
• 12:09
  the
• 12:09
  agent
• 12:10
  for
• 12:10
  the
• 12:10
  Goose
• 12:10
  and
• 12:10
  Garvey
• 12:11
  and
• 12:11
  them,
• 12:11
  they
• 12:11
  come
• 12:11
  up
• 12:12
  there
• 12:12
  and
• 12:12
  look
• 12:12
  like
• 12:12
  we
• 12:13
  were
• 12:13
  in
• 12:13
  competition
• 12:14
  with
• 12:14
  the
• 12:14
  Braves
• 12:15
  for
• 12:15
  Harvey
• 12:16
  and
• 12:16
  Gossage
• 12:17
  and
• 12:17
  looked
• 12:18
  like
• 12:18
  we
• 12:18
  looked
• 12:19
  like
• 12:19
  we
• 12:19
  were
• 12:19
  handsome.
• 12:21
  And
• 12:21
  then
• 12:21
  all
• 12:21
  of
• 12:21
  a
• 12:21
  sudden,
• 12:22
  I
• 12:22
  go
• 12:22
  back
• 12:22
  to
• 12:22
  the
• 12:22
  office
• 12:22
  and
• 12:24
  the
• 12:24
  bean
• 12:24
  counters
• 12:25
  off.
• 12:25
  Oh,
• 12:26
  have
• 12:26
  a
• 12:26
  meeting.
• 12:27
  Oh,
• 12:27
  I
• 12:27
  don't
• 12:28
  think
• 12:28
  we
• 12:28
  can
• 12:28
  afford.
• 12:28
  And
• 12:29
  went
• 12:29
  open
• 12:29
  this.
• 12:30
  Well,
• 12:30
  Ray
• 12:30
  is.
• 12:31
  Ray
• 12:31
  Clark
• 12:31
  is
• 12:32
  in
• 12:32
  the
• 12:32
  hospital
• 12:32
  and
• 12:32
  violence
• 12:33
  met
• 12:33
  the
• 12:33
  president
• 12:33
  of
• 12:34
  the
• 12:34
  club,
• 12:34
  said,
• 12:34
  let's
• 12:34
  go
• 12:34
  up
• 12:34
  and
• 12:35
  talk
• 12:35
  to
• 12:35
  Ray.
• 12:36
  Let's
• 12:36
  go
• 12:36
  up
• 12:36
  and
• 12:37
  see
• 12:37
  Ray.
• 12:37
  We
• 12:37
  didn't
• 12:38
  think
• 12:38
  about
• 12:38
  going
• 12:38
  and
• 12:39
  talk
• 12:39
  baseball,
• 12:39
  just
• 12:39
  go
• 12:40
  and
• 12:40
  visit
• 12:40
  with
• 12:40
  him.
• 12:41
  And
• 12:41
  he
• 12:41
  said.
• 12:42
  He
• 12:42
  said,
• 12:42
  val,
• 12:42
  what
• 12:43
  do
• 12:43
  you
• 12:43
  think
• 12:43
  about
• 12:43
  Garbian?
• 12:45
  Well,
• 12:45
  it's
• 12:46
  not
• 12:46
  too
• 12:46
  much
• 12:46
  money,
• 12:46
  Ray.
• 12:47
  Jack,
• 12:47
  what
• 12:48
  do
• 12:48
  you
• 12:48
  think?
• 12:48
  I
• 12:48
  said,
• 12:48
  well,
• 12:48
  I
• 12:48
  work
• 12:49
  Ray.
• 12:50
  He's
• 12:50
  the
• 12:51
  kind
• 12:51
  of
• 12:51
  guy.
• 12:51
  We
• 12:51
  got
• 12:51
  a
• 12:51
  young
• 12:52
  club
• 12:52
  here.
• 12:52
  We
• 12:52
  need
• 12:53
  some
• 12:53
  experience
• 12:53
  down
• 12:54
  there.
• 12:55
  Sign
• 12:55
  them.
• 12:56
  So
• 12:56
  the
• 12:57
  next
• 12:57
  year
• 12:57
  was
• 12:57
  almost
• 12:57
  the
• 12:58
  identical
• 12:58
  situation
• 12:59
  with
• 12:59
  Gus.
• 13:00
  We
• 13:00
  had
• 13:00
  him
• 13:01
  locked
• 13:01
  up,
• 13:01
  I
• 13:01
  thought.
• 13:02
  And
• 13:02
  then
• 13:02
  all
• 13:02
  of
• 13:02
  a
• 13:02
  sudden,
• 13:03
  the
• 13:03
  bean
• 13:03
  counters
• 13:04
  decided,
• 13:04
  oh,
• 13:04
  we
• 13:05
  can't
• 13:05
  afford
• 13:05
  it.
• 13:05
  And
• 13:06
  Ray
• 13:06
  was
• 13:06
  in
• 13:07
  the
• 13:07
  hospital
• 13:07
  again.
• 13:07
  This
• 13:08
  time
• 13:08
  he
• 13:08
  died.
• 13:09
  And
• 13:10
  he
• 13:10
  said,
• 13:12
  how
• 13:12
  about.
• 13:13
  How
• 13:13
  are
• 13:13
  we
• 13:13
  doing
• 13:14
  with
• 13:14
  the
• 13:15
  process?
• 13:16
  Well,
• 13:16
  you
• 13:17
  know,
• 13:17
  the
• 13:17
  Beam
• 13:17
  Council
• 13:18
  said,
• 13:18
  well,
• 13:18
  I
• 13:18
  don't
• 13:18
  think
• 13:19
  that's
• 13:19
  too
• 13:19
  much
• 13:19
  money.
• 13:20
  A
• 13:20
  million
• 13:20
  dollars
• 13:20
  a
• 13:21
  year,
• 13:21
  that's
• 13:21
  too
• 13:21
  much.
• 13:22
  What
• 13:22
  do
• 13:23
  you
• 13:23
  think,
• 13:23
  Jack?
• 13:23
  I
• 13:23
  said,
• 13:23
  we're
• 13:24
  getting
• 13:24
  a
• 13:24
  wind
• 13:24
  defendant.
• 13:26
  He
• 13:26
  said,
• 13:27
  sign
• 13:27
  them.
• 13:27
  So
• 13:28
  that's
• 13:28
  how
• 13:28
  we
• 13:28
  got
• 13:28
  those
• 13:29
  two
• 13:29
  guys.
• 13:29
  And
• 13:29
  then
• 13:30
  opening
• 13:31
  the
• 13:31
  day
• 13:31
  before
• 13:31
  opening
• 13:32
  day,
• 13:32
  I
• 13:32
  traded
• 13:32
  for
• 13:33
  nettles.
• 13:33
  And
• 13:33
  that
• 13:33
  was
• 13:33
  the
• 13:34
  key
• 13:34
  part
• 13:35
  of
• 13:35
  our
• 13:35
  club.
• 13:36
  Put
• 13:36
  nettles,
• 13:36
  garbage
• 13:37
  and
• 13:38
  ghost.
• 13:41
  He
• 13:41
  won
• 13:41
  the
• 13:41
  benefit
• 13:42
  here.
• 13:43
  And
• 13:43
  in
• 13:44
  the
• 13:44
  New
• 13:44
  York
• 13:44
  Times
• 13:45
  in
• 13:45
  1988.
• 13:46
  Jack.
• 13:47
  Jack
• 13:47
  McKeon
• 13:48
  with
• 13:48
  us
• 13:48
  tonight
• 13:48
  on
• 13:49
  the
• 13:49
  program.
• 13:50
  Why
• 13:50
  do
• 13:50
  I
• 13:50
  trade?
• 13:51
  I'm
• 13:51
  aggressive,
• 13:52
  I'm
• 13:52
  confident,
• 13:53
  I'm
• 13:53
  a
• 13:53
  gambler.
• 13:54
  I'm
• 13:54
  willing
• 13:54
  to
• 13:55
  make
• 13:55
  a
• 13:55
  trade
• 13:55
  and
• 13:56
  not
• 13:56
  be
• 13:56
  afraid
• 13:57
  I'll
• 13:57
  get
• 13:57
  nailed.
• 13:58
  That's
• 13:58
  what
• 13:58
  you
• 13:58
  told
• 13:58
  the
• 13:59
  Times
• 13:59
  back
• 13:59
  in
• 14:00
  88,
• 14:00
  and
• 14:00
  that's
• 14:00
  true.
• 14:02
  Well,
• 14:02
  that's
• 14:02
  fine.
• 14:03
  I
• 14:03
  said,
• 14:03
  you
• 14:03
  know,
• 14:03
  I
• 14:03
  traded.
• 14:04
  Trade
• 14:04
  my
• 14:05
  mother,
• 14:05
  but
• 14:05
  if
• 14:05
  it
• 14:06
  could
• 14:06
  help
• 14:06
  us
• 14:06
  win.
• 14:08
  In
• 14:08
  fact,
• 14:08
  I
• 14:09
  traded
• 14:09
  my
• 14:09
  son
• 14:09
  in
• 14:10
  law.
• 14:10
  So,
• 14:10
  you
• 14:10
  know.
• 14:11
  You
• 14:11
  did,
• 14:11
  that's
• 14:11
  right.
• 14:12
  Yeah.
• 14:12
  Folks,
• 14:13
  Jack
• 14:13
  McKeon
• 14:14
  trades
• 14:14
  his
• 14:14
  son
• 14:15
  in
• 14:15
  law.
• 14:16
  What
• 14:16
  a
• 14:16
  great
• 14:17
  story
• 14:17
  that
• 14:17
  is.
• 14:19
  Well,
• 14:19
  you
• 14:19
  know,
• 14:19
  I
• 14:19
  was
• 14:20
  interested
• 14:20
  in
• 14:20
  winning.
• 14:21
  You
• 14:21
  know,
• 14:21
  I
• 14:22
  didn't
• 14:22
  play
• 14:22
  favorites.
• 14:23
  If
• 14:24
  I
• 14:24
  could
• 14:24
  help
• 14:24
  myself
• 14:25
  by
• 14:25
  making
• 14:25
  a
• 14:25
  trade,
• 14:25
  I
• 14:26
  want
• 14:26
  to
• 14:26
  make
• 14:26
  it
• 14:26
  right.
• 14:27
  No,
• 14:28
  you're
• 14:28
  exactly
• 14:28
  right,
• 14:29
  Jack.
• 14:29
  Now
• 14:30
  you
• 14:30
  go
• 14:30
  to
• 14:30
  Cincinnati,
• 14:31
  you
• 14:31
  started
• 14:32
  in
• 14:32
  the
• 14:32
  front
• 14:32
  office,
• 14:33
  you
• 14:34
  returned
• 14:34
  from
• 14:34
  the
• 14:35
  field
• 14:36
  to
• 14:36
  the
• 14:36
  field.
• 14:37
  You
• 14:37
  had
• 14:37
  great
• 14:38
  success.
• 14:38
  I
• 14:39
  remember,
• 14:39
  Jack,
• 14:40
  that
• 14:40
  one,
• 14:40
  being
• 14:41
  a
• 14:41
  Met
• 14:41
  fan,
• 14:42
  I
• 14:42
  remember
• 14:42
  that
• 14:43
  one
• 14:43
  game,
• 14:43
  playoff
• 14:44
  against.
• 14:45
  Yeah,
• 14:45
  I
• 14:45
  do
• 14:45
  too.
• 14:46
  Yeah,
• 14:47
  that
• 14:47
  was
• 14:48
  a
• 14:48
  tough
• 14:48
  one.
• 14:49
  Al
• 14:49
  Leiter
• 14:50
  pitched
• 14:50
  a
• 14:50
  game
• 14:50
  of
• 14:51
  his
• 14:51
  career.
• 14:53
  Yeah.
• 14:53
  And
• 14:54
  a
• 14:54
  little
• 14:54
  second
• 14:54
  basement,
• 14:55
  I
• 14:55
  forget
• 14:55
  his
• 14:55
  name
• 14:55
  now.
• 14:56
  He
• 14:56
  hits
• 14:56
  the
• 14:56
  home
• 14:56
  run
• 14:57
  in
• 14:57
  the
• 14:57
  second
• 14:57
  inning.
• 14:58
  And
• 14:58
  the
• 14:58
  funny
• 14:59
  thing
• 14:59
  is,
• 14:59
  Pete
• 15:00
  Harness
• 15:00
  was
• 15:00
  my
• 15:00
  best
• 15:00
  pitcher,
• 15:01
  but
• 15:01
  I
• 15:01
  had
• 15:01
  to
• 15:02
  use
• 15:02
  him.
• 15:03
  We
• 15:03
  were
• 15:03
  in
• 15:03
  Milwaukee
• 15:04
  and
• 15:05
  we
• 15:05
  had
• 15:05
  to
• 15:06
  win
• 15:06
  this
• 15:06
  game
• 15:06
  in
• 15:06
  Milwaukee
• 15:07
  because
• 15:08
  the
• 15:08
  Mets
• 15:08
  had
• 15:08
  won
• 15:08
  already
• 15:09
  and
• 15:09
  I
• 15:10
  had
• 15:10
  to
• 15:10
  pitch
• 15:10
  Met
• 15:12
  Pete
• 15:13
  and
• 15:13
  I
• 15:13
  ended
• 15:13
  up
• 15:14
  after
• 15:14
  pitching
• 15:15
  one
• 15:15
  of
• 15:15
  my,
• 15:15
  you
• 15:15
  know,
• 15:16
  my
• 15:16
  fourth
• 15:16
  or
• 15:16
  fifth
• 15:17
  starter.
• 15:17
  And
• 15:17
  we
• 15:18
  got
• 15:18
  beat.
• 15:19
  Yeah,
• 15:19
  but
• 15:20
  it
• 15:20
  was
• 15:20
  a
• 15:21
  lot
• 15:21
  of
• 15:21
  fun.
• 15:22
  Tough
• 15:23
  one.
• 15:23
  And
• 15:24
  that's
• 15:24
  one
• 15:24
  instance,
• 15:25
  Jack,
• 15:25
  with
• 15:25
  the
• 15:25
  Mets.
• 15:26
  Came
• 15:26
  out
• 15:26
  on
• 15:26
  top.
• 15:27
  Being
• 15:27
  a.
• 15:28
  Being
• 15:28
  a
• 15:28
  Mets
• 15:28
  fan,
• 15:29
  not
• 15:29
  easy,
• 15:30
  as
• 15:30
  you
• 15:30
  folks
• 15:30
  out
• 15:31
  there
• 15:31
  know.
• 15:32
  Now
• 15:32
  with
• 15:32
  the
• 15:33
  Marlins,
• 15:33
  the
• 15:34
  Marlins,
• 15:34
  2003,
• 15:36
  a
• 15:36
  tremendous
• 15:37
  year.
• 15:37
  You
• 15:37
  beat
• 15:38
  the
• 15:38
  Yankees
• 15:38
  in
• 15:39
  the
• 15:39
  World
• 15:39
  Series,
• 15:40
  you're
• 15:40
  the
• 15:41
  National
• 15:41
  League
• 15:41
  Manager
• 15:42
  of
• 15:42
  the
• 15:42
  Year.
• 15:43
  And
• 15:43
  as
• 15:43
  they
• 15:43
  said,
• 15:44
  the
• 15:44
  oldest
• 15:45
  manager
• 15:45
  to
• 15:46
  win
• 15:46
  the
• 15:46
  World
• 15:46
  Series,
• 15:47
  right?
• 15:48
  Correct.
• 15:49
  Correct.
• 15:50
  Yeah.
• 15:51
  You
• 15:51
  know,
• 15:51
  the
• 15:51
  funny
• 15:51
  thing
• 15:51
  about
• 15:52
  it
• 15:52
  is
• 15:52
  I
• 15:52
  was
• 15:52
  a
• 15:52
  Yankee
• 15:53
  fan
• 15:53
  growing
• 15:53
  up
• 15:54
  all
• 15:54
  my.
• 15:54
  All
• 15:54
  my
• 15:55
  life.
• 15:55
  You
• 15:56
  know,
• 15:56
  as
• 15:56
  a
• 15:56
  young
• 15:57
  kid,
• 15:57
  you
• 15:57
  have
• 15:57
  dreams,
• 15:58
  right?
• 15:58
  My
• 15:58
  dream
• 15:59
  was
• 15:59
  someday.
• 15:59
  Someday
• 16:00
  being
• 16:00
  in
• 16:01
  Yankee
• 16:01
  Stadium
• 16:02
  and
• 16:02
  win
• 16:02
  the
• 16:02
  World
• 16:02
  Series.
• 16:03
  You
• 16:03
  know,
• 16:04
  I
• 16:04
  was
• 16:04
  thinking
• 16:04
  as
• 16:04
  a
• 16:05
  player.
• 16:05
  Then
• 16:06
  I
• 16:06
  end
• 16:06
  up.
• 16:06
  I
• 16:06
  won.
• 16:07
  I
• 16:07
  ended
• 16:07
  up
• 16:08
  winning
• 16:09
  the
• 16:09
  World
• 16:09
  Series
• 16:10
  in
• 16:10
  Yankee
• 16:10
  Stadium.
• 16:11
  And
• 16:12
  one,
• 16:12
  like
• 16:13
  I
• 16:13
  said,
• 16:14
  Ray
• 16:14
  Kroc.
• 16:14
  One
• 16:15
  of
• 16:15
  Ray
• 16:15
  Kroc's
• 16:16
  favorite
• 16:16
  things
• 16:16
  was
• 16:17
  persistence
• 16:18
  is
• 16:18
  the
• 16:18
  key
• 16:19
  to
• 16:19
  success.
• 16:21
  And
• 16:21
  dreams
• 16:22
  do
• 16:22
  come
• 16:22
  true.
• 16:23
  And
• 16:23
  boom,
• 16:24
  when
• 16:24
  he
• 16:24
  beat
• 16:24
  the
• 16:24
  Yankees,
• 16:24
  all
• 16:25
  I
• 16:25
  could
• 16:25
  look
• 16:25
  up
• 16:25
  to
• 16:25
  the
• 16:26
  sky
• 16:26
  and
• 16:26
  say,
• 16:26
  dear
• 16:27
  Lord,
• 16:27
  you're
• 16:27
  right.
• 16:28
  Dreams
• 16:28
  do
• 16:29
  come
• 16:29
  true.
• 16:31
  Yeah.
• 16:31
  Now,
• 16:32
  you
• 16:32
  said
• 16:33
  that
• 16:33
  Game
• 16:33
  6
• 16:34
  of
• 16:34
  that
• 16:34
  series,
• 16:36
  Jack,
• 16:37
  was
• 16:37
  the
• 16:37
  greatest
• 16:38
  thrill
• 16:38
  of
• 16:38
  your
• 16:39
  career.
• 16:40
  Well,
• 16:40
  yeah,
• 16:41
  because,
• 16:41
  you
• 16:41
  know,
• 16:41
  the
• 16:41
  funny
• 16:42
  thing
• 16:42
  is
• 16:43
  we
• 16:43
  were
• 16:44
  up
• 16:44
  three
• 16:44
  to
• 16:44
  Two
• 16:44
  in
• 16:44
  the
• 16:45
  Yankees.
• 16:45
  And
• 16:45
  we
• 16:45
  had
• 16:45
  to
• 16:45
  go
• 16:46
  into
• 16:46
  New
• 16:46
  York
• 16:46
  for
• 16:46
  the
• 16:47
  final
• 16:47
  two
• 16:47
  games,
• 16:48
  and
• 16:51
  Mike
• 16:52
  Redmond
• 16:52
  was
• 16:52
  supposed
• 16:52
  to
• 16:53
  be
• 16:53
  the
• 16:53
  starting
• 16:53
  pitcher.
• 16:54
  I
• 16:54
  mean,
• 16:54
  it
• 16:54
  was
• 16:54
  his
• 16:55
  turn
• 16:55
  to
• 16:55
  pitch,
• 16:56
  but
• 16:56
  the
• 16:56
  Cubs
• 16:56
  had
• 16:57
  kicked
• 16:57
  the
• 16:57
  heck
• 16:57
  out
• 16:57
  of
• 16:57
  him
• 16:58
  and
• 16:58
  the
• 16:58
  Yankees
• 16:59
  had
• 16:59
  beat
• 16:59
  him
• 16:59
  in
• 16:59
  the
• 17:00
  second
• 17:00
  game
• 17:00
  of
• 17:00
  the
• 17:00
  World
• 17:00
  Series.
• 17:01
  And
• 17:02
  I
• 17:02
  said,
• 17:02
  I
• 17:02
  can't.
• 17:03
  He's
• 17:03
  the
• 17:03
  type
• 17:04
  of
• 17:04
  guy
• 17:04
  the
• 17:04
  Yankees
• 17:04
  would
• 17:05
  tee
• 17:05
  off
• 17:05
  on,
• 17:05
  huh?
• 17:06
  Yeah.
• 17:06
  And
• 17:06
  I
• 17:06
  had.
• 17:07
  And
• 17:07
  I
• 17:08
  called
• 17:08
  him
• 17:08
  back
• 17:09
  and
• 17:09
  I
• 17:09
  said,
• 17:09
  you
• 17:10
  know,
• 17:10
  can
• 17:11
  I
• 17:11
  pitch
• 17:11
  you
• 17:11
  with
• 17:12
  three
• 17:12
  days
• 17:12
  rest?
• 17:12
  You
• 17:13
  know,
• 17:13
  he's
• 17:14
  let
• 17:14
  me
• 17:14
  go
• 17:14
  out
• 17:14
  and
• 17:14
  throw
• 17:15
  a
• 17:15
  bullpen.
• 17:15
  So
• 17:16
  he
• 17:16
  went
• 17:16
  out
• 17:16
  and
• 17:16
  threw
• 17:16
  a
• 17:17
  bullpen.
• 17:17
  He
• 17:17
  came
• 17:17
  back
• 17:18
  and
• 17:18
  said,
• 17:18
  I'm
• 17:18
  your
• 17:18
  guy.
• 17:19
  Well,
• 17:19
  you
• 17:20
  know,
• 17:20
  the
• 17:20
  heat
• 17:20
  I
• 17:20
  had
• 17:20
  to
• 17:20
  put
• 17:21
  on,
• 17:21
  I
• 17:21
  don't
• 17:21
  know
• 17:21
  if
• 17:21
  you
• 17:21
  remember
• 17:22
  or
• 17:22
  not,
• 17:22
  but
• 17:23
  every
• 17:23
  sports
• 17:24
  writer
• 17:24
  in
• 17:24
  the
• 17:24
  country
• 17:25
  said,
• 17:25
  oh,
• 17:25
  you
• 17:25
  know,
• 17:25
  he's
• 17:26
  crazy.
• 17:26
  Picture
• 17:26
  that
• 17:27
  guy
• 17:27
  with
• 17:27
  three
• 17:27
  days
• 17:27
  rest,
• 17:29
  history
• 17:29
  says
• 17:30
  they're
• 17:31
  4
• 17:31
  and
• 17:31
  20.
• 17:32
  And
• 17:32
  I
• 17:32
  said,
• 17:33
  I
• 17:33
  don't
• 17:33
  give
• 17:33
  a
• 17:33
  damn
• 17:33
  about
• 17:33
  history.
• 17:34
  Just.
• 17:34
  That's.
• 17:34
  Just.
• 17:35
  That's
• 17:35
  in
• 17:35
  the
• 17:35
  past
• 17:36
  future.
• 17:37
  I
• 17:38
  said,
• 17:38
  I
• 17:38
  can't
• 17:39
  afford
• 17:39
  to
• 17:40
  go
• 17:40
  seven
• 17:41
  games
• 17:41
  unless
• 17:42
  I
• 17:42
  have
• 17:42
  to
• 17:43
  with
• 17:43
  the
• 17:43
  Yankees.
• 17:43
  Because
• 17:44
  the
• 17:44
  seventh
• 17:44
  game
• 17:45
  with
• 17:45
  the
• 17:45
  Yankees,
• 17:46
  they
• 17:46
  seemed
• 17:46
  to.
• 17:46
  Something
• 17:47
  had
• 17:47
  that
• 17:47
  mystique
• 17:48
  about
• 17:48
  them
• 17:49
  that
• 17:49
  they
• 17:49
  always
• 17:50
  seem
• 17:50
  to
• 17:50
  get
• 17:50
  the
• 17:51
  breaks
• 17:51
  and
• 17:52
  deliver.
• 17:52
  Yeah.
• 17:53
  And
• 17:53
  I
• 17:53
  said,
• 17:53
  I'm
• 17:54
  going
• 17:54
  to
• 17:54
  make
• 17:54
  the
• 17:54
  Yankees
• 17:55
  beat
• 17:56
  us
• 17:56
  before,
• 17:56
  but
• 17:57
  I'm
• 17:57
  going
• 17:57
  with
• 17:57
  three
• 17:57
  days
• 17:58
  rest.
• 17:58
  I
• 17:59
  checked
• 17:59
  with
• 17:59
  all
• 17:59
  my
• 18:00
  people,
• 18:00
  people
• 18:01
  in
• 18:01
  baseball
• 18:01
  and
• 18:02
  in
• 18:02
  the
• 18:02
  offices
• 18:03
  and
• 18:03
  all.
• 18:03
  I
• 18:04
  couldn't.
• 18:04
  I
• 18:04
  said,
• 18:04
  what
• 18:04
  do
• 18:05
  you
• 18:05
  think
• 18:05
  about
• 18:05
  pitching
• 18:06
  back
• 18:07
  there
• 18:07
  with
• 18:07
  three
• 18:07
  days?
• 18:07
  Well,
• 18:08
  I
• 18:08
  don't
• 18:08
  know.
• 18:09
  You
• 18:09
  know,
• 18:09
  I
• 18:09
  don't
• 18:09
  know.
• 18:10
  I
• 18:11
  said,
• 18:11
  well,
• 18:11
  he's
• 18:11
  going
• 18:11
  to
• 18:12
  pitch
• 18:12
  regardless.
• 18:12
  So
• 18:13
  he
• 18:13
  pitches,
• 18:13
  you
• 18:13
  know,
• 18:14
  of
• 18:14
  course,
• 18:14
  after
• 18:14
  we
• 18:14
  close
• 18:15
  it
• 18:15
  to
• 18:15
  his
• 18:15
  shutout.
• 18:16
  Right.
• 18:16
  Everybody
• 18:17
  said,
• 18:17
  hey,
• 18:18
  nice
• 18:18
  going.
• 18:19
  I
• 18:19
  was
• 18:19
  with
• 18:19
  you
• 18:19
  all
• 18:20
  the
• 18:20
  way.
• 18:20
  Yeah.
• 18:22
  Yeah.
• 18:23
  Thanks,
• 18:23
  folks,
• 18:24
  for
• 18:24
  your
• 18:24
  confidence.
• 18:25
  Right,
• 18:25
  Jack?
• 18:26
  Right.
• 18:27
  Well,
• 18:27
  that's
• 18:27
  it.
• 18:27
  You
• 18:27
  know,
• 18:28
  I
• 18:28
  had
• 18:28
  confidence.
• 18:29
  I
• 18:29
  had
• 18:29
  confidence
• 18:30
  in
• 18:30
  winning
• 18:31
  that
• 18:31
  thing,
• 18:31
  and
• 18:32
  I
• 18:33
  had
• 18:33
  confidence
• 18:33
  in
• 18:33
  Beckon.
• 18:34
  And
• 18:34
  he
• 18:35
  delivered.
• 18:36
  He
• 18:36
  did.
• 18:37
  Josh
• 18:37
  Beckett,
• 18:38
  folks.
• 18:39
  Great
• 18:39
  game
• 18:39
  in
• 18:40
  that
• 18:40
  World
• 18:40
  series.
• 18:41
  Trader
• 18:42
  Jack
• 18:42
  McKeon
• 18:43
  with
• 18:43
  us
• 18:43
  tonight
• 18:44
  on
• 18:44
  Sports
• 18:44
  Talk
• 18:44
  New
• 18:45
  York.
• 18:45
  Now
• 18:45
  the
• 18:46
  Marlins
• 18:46
  go
• 18:46
  to
• 18:47
  rebuild
• 18:48
  and
• 18:48
  a
• 18:48
  managerial
• 18:49
  change
• 18:49
  in
• 18:50
  the
• 18:50
  offing.
• 18:51
  What
• 18:51
  did
• 18:51
  you
• 18:51
  think
• 18:51
  about
• 18:52
  them
• 18:52
  trading
• 18:53
  everybody
• 18:53
  off,
• 18:54
  Jack?
• 18:55
  Well,
• 18:56
  I
• 18:56
  was
• 18:56
  kind
• 18:56
  of
• 18:56
  disappointed,
• 18:57
  you
• 18:57
  know,
• 18:57
  after
• 18:57
  we
• 18:58
  won,
• 18:59
  you
• 18:59
  know,
• 18:59
  we
• 18:59
  had
• 18:59
  put
• 19:00
  Rodriguez,
• 19:00
  he
• 19:00
  was
• 19:01
  free
• 19:01
  agent
• 19:01
  again.
• 19:02
  Derrick
• 19:03
  Lee
• 19:03
  and
• 19:04
  really.
• 19:05
  And
• 19:05
  really,
• 19:05
  Phil,
• 19:06
  in
• 19:06
  those
• 19:06
  days,
• 19:07
  they
• 19:07
  didn't
• 19:08
  want
• 19:08
  that
• 19:08
  much
• 19:08
  money.
• 19:09
  Not,
• 19:09
  not
• 19:10
  compared
• 19:11
  to
• 19:11
  what
• 19:11
  you're
• 19:11
  seeing
• 19:11
  today.
• 19:12
  I
• 19:12
  mean,
• 19:13
  7,
• 19:13
  7
• 19:14
  million
• 19:14
  or
• 19:15
  10
• 19:15
  million
• 19:16
  or
• 19:16
  8
• 19:16
  million
• 19:17
  and
• 19:18
  we
• 19:18
  didn't
• 19:19
  have
• 19:19
  any
• 19:19
  money.
• 19:19
  They
• 19:19
  said,
• 19:20
  okay.
• 19:20
  So
• 19:20
  we
• 19:21
  had
• 19:21
  to
• 19:21
  unload
• 19:21
  them.
• 19:21
  But
• 19:22
  then
• 19:22
  I
• 19:23
  said,
• 19:23
  you
• 19:23
  know,
• 19:23
  you've
• 19:23
  got
• 19:23
  that
• 19:24
  nucleus
• 19:24
  of
• 19:24
  the
• 19:24
  ball
• 19:25
  club
• 19:25
  here.
• 19:26
  Why,
• 19:26
  why
• 19:26
  won't
• 19:26
  we
• 19:27
  shoot
• 19:27
  for
• 19:27
  next
• 19:27
  year?
• 19:28
  But
• 19:29
  didn't
• 19:29
  work
• 19:29
  out.
• 19:30
  No,
• 19:31
  no.
• 19:31
  So
• 19:31
  I
• 19:31
  retired
• 19:32
  anyhow
• 19:33
  after
• 19:33
  that.
• 19:34
  Well,
• 19:34
  I
• 19:34
  want
• 19:34
  another
• 19:35
  year
• 19:35
  or
• 19:35
  two.
• 19:35
  And
• 19:35
  retired.
• 19:36
  I
• 19:36
  said,
• 19:36
  no,
• 19:36
  I'm
• 19:37
  not
• 19:37
  going
• 19:37
  to
• 19:37
  fight
• 19:37
  it.
• 19:38
  How
• 19:38
  is
• 19:39
  it,
• 19:39
  Jack,
• 19:39
  managing
• 19:40
  great
• 19:41
  hall
• 19:41
  of
• 19:41
  Famers
• 19:42
  like
• 19:42
  George
• 19:42
  Brett
• 19:43
  and
• 19:43
  Griffey
• 19:44
  Jr?
• 19:45
  How
• 19:45
  is
• 19:46
  it
• 19:46
  having
• 19:46
  those
• 19:46
  guys
• 19:47
  on
• 19:47
  your
• 19:47
  team
• 19:48
  was
• 19:49
  any
• 19:49
  problem
• 19:50
  or
• 19:51
  some
• 19:51
  stories
• 19:52
  you
• 19:52
  could
• 19:52
  tell
• 19:52
  us
• 19:52
  about
• 19:53
  those
• 19:53
  guys?
• 19:55
  No,
• 19:55
  not
• 19:55
  much.
• 19:56
  Especially
• 19:57
  a
• 19:57
  guy
• 19:57
  like
• 19:57
  Brett
• 19:58
  was
• 19:58
  a
• 19:58
  real
• 19:58
  gamer.
• 19:58
  I
• 19:59
  mean,
• 19:59
  you
• 19:59
  know,
• 19:59
  you
• 19:59
  talk
• 19:59
  about
• 20:00
  a
• 20:00
  winner.
• 20:01
  He
• 20:02
  was
• 20:02
  a
• 20:02
  winner.
• 20:03
  He
• 20:03
  made
• 20:03
  it
• 20:03
  happen.
• 20:04
  I
• 20:04
  mean,
• 20:04
  there's
• 20:05
  a
• 20:05
  guy
• 20:05
  that,
• 20:05
  you
• 20:06
  know,
• 20:06
  I
• 20:06
  brought
• 20:06
  him
• 20:06
  up
• 20:06
  to
• 20:06
  his
• 20:07
  first
• 20:07
  experience
• 20:08
  in
• 20:08
  the
• 20:08
  big
• 20:08
  leagues
• 20:09
  when
• 20:09
  I
• 20:10
  was
• 20:10
  managing
• 20:10
  the
• 20:10
  Royals.
• 20:11
  And
• 20:11
  I
• 20:11
  brought
• 20:11
  him
• 20:11
  up
• 20:11
  and
• 20:13
  he,
• 20:13
  you
• 20:13
  know,
• 20:13
  was
• 20:14
  pretty
• 20:14
  good
• 20:15
  first
• 20:15
  year.
• 20:15
  And
• 20:15
  then
• 20:16
  it
• 20:16
  really
• 20:17
  took
• 20:17
  off
• 20:17
  after
• 20:18
  that.
• 20:18
  And
• 20:18
  the
• 20:18
  same
• 20:18
  thing
• 20:18
  with
• 20:19
  Tony
• 20:19
  Gwynne.
• 20:20
  I
• 20:20
  scouted
• 20:20
  Tony
• 20:22
  in
• 20:22
  San
• 20:23
  Diego
• 20:23
  State
• 20:24
  and
• 20:25
  all
• 20:25
  my
• 20:25
  scouts
• 20:26
  and
• 20:26
  all.
• 20:27
  I
• 20:27
  had
• 20:27
  other
• 20:27
  people
• 20:27
  in
• 20:28
  mind.
• 20:28
  Well,
• 20:29
  I
• 20:29
  had
• 20:29
  McReynolds
• 20:30
  on
• 20:30
  number
• 20:30
  one,
• 20:31
  and
• 20:31
  I
• 20:31
  wanted
• 20:31
  to
• 20:31
  take
• 20:32
  Gwen
• 20:32
  two.
• 20:33
  And
• 20:34
  the
• 20:34
  guys,
• 20:34
  all
• 20:34
  the
• 20:35
  scouts,
• 20:35
  these
• 20:35
  super
• 20:35
  scouts,
• 20:36
  you
• 20:36
  know,
• 20:36
  no
• 20:36
  alternative.
• 20:37
  They
• 20:37
  didn't
• 20:38
  turn
• 20:38
  me
• 20:38
  down,
• 20:39
  but
• 20:39
  they
• 20:39
  suggested
• 20:40
  this
• 20:40
  guy
• 20:40
  was
• 20:41
  better
• 20:42
  than
• 20:42
  Tony
• 20:42
  Gwynn.
• 20:42
  I
• 20:43
  said,
• 20:43
  you're
• 20:43
  kidding
• 20:43
  me.
• 20:44
  Have
• 20:44
  you
• 20:44
  seen.
• 20:45
  And
• 20:45
  I
• 20:45
  hadn't
• 20:45
  seen
• 20:46
  the
• 20:46
  guy.
• 20:46
  They
• 20:46
  were
• 20:46
  talking
• 20:46
  about
• 20:47
  Billy
• 20:47
  Long.
• 20:48
  And
• 20:49
  I
• 20:49
  said,
• 20:49
  you
• 20:49
  seen
• 20:50
  Billy
• 20:50
  Long
• 20:50
  and
• 20:50
  Tony,
• 20:51
  Gwen?
• 20:51
  I
• 20:51
  said,
• 20:51
  yeah.
• 20:52
  I
• 20:52
  said,
• 20:53
  you're
• 20:53
  telling
• 20:53
  me
• 20:53
  that?
• 20:55
  Yeah.
• 20:56
  I
• 20:56
  said,
• 20:56
  okay,
• 20:56
  fine,
• 20:57
  but
• 20:57
  I'll
• 20:57
  tell
• 20:57
  you
• 20:57
  what,
• 20:58
  there's
• 20:58
  no
• 20:58
  discussion.
• 20:59
  Tony
• 20:59
  wins
• 21:00
  next.
• 21:00
  And
• 21:00
  we
• 21:00
  were
• 21:01
  lucky
• 21:01
  to
• 21:01
  get
• 21:01
  it.
• 21:01
  We
• 21:01
  were
• 21:02
  lucky
• 21:02
  to
• 21:02
  get
• 21:02
  him
• 21:02
  in
• 21:02
  the
• 21:03
  third
• 21:03
  round.
• 21:03
  Yeah,
• 21:04
  but,
• 21:05
  but
• 21:05
  you
• 21:05
  know,
• 21:05
  you
• 21:05
  talk
• 21:06
  about
• 21:06
  all
• 21:06
  these
• 21:06
  guys.
• 21:06
  So
• 21:08
  they
• 21:08
  all
• 21:08
  talk
• 21:08
  about,
• 21:09
  you
• 21:09
  know,
• 21:09
  giving
• 21:09
  these
• 21:10
  guys
• 21:10
  extensions
• 21:10
  and
• 21:11
  how
• 21:11
  they
• 21:11
  did.
• 21:12
  I
• 21:12
  signed
• 21:13
  Tony
• 21:13
  Gwyn
• 21:14
  at
• 21:14
  his
• 21:14
  first
• 21:14
  year
• 21:15
  in
• 21:15
  the
• 21:15
  big
• 21:15
  leagues
• 21:15
  to
• 21:16
  a
• 21:16
  five
• 21:16
  year
• 21:16
  contract.
• 21:18
  1000-002000-00300,000,
• 21:20
  400,000.
• 21:23
  And
• 21:23
  he
• 21:23
  won
• 21:24
  three
• 21:24
  batting
• 21:24
  titles
• 21:25
  in
• 21:25
  the
• 21:25
  meantime.
• 21:26
  Imagine
• 21:27
  that,
• 21:27
  folks.
• 21:27
  Yeah,
• 21:29
  but
• 21:29
  he
• 21:29
  was,
• 21:29
  he
• 21:29
  was,
• 21:30
  he
• 21:30
  was,
• 21:30
  he
• 21:30
  was
• 21:31
  probably
• 21:31
  the.
• 21:33
  I
• 21:33
  say
• 21:33
  he
• 21:33
  was
• 21:34
  the,
• 21:34
  the
• 21:35
  father
• 21:35
  of
• 21:38
  the
• 21:38
  Internet.
• 21:39
  Not
• 21:39
  the
• 21:39
  Internet,
• 21:40
  but
• 21:40
  the
• 21:40
  video.
• 21:41
  Yeah.
• 21:43
  He
• 21:43
  bought
• 21:44
  his
• 21:44
  own
• 21:44
  video.
• 21:45
  We
• 21:45
  couldn't
• 21:46
  afford
• 21:46
  to
• 21:46
  pay
• 21:46
  it.
• 21:47
  He
• 21:47
  went
• 21:47
  and
• 21:47
  bought
• 21:47
  his
• 21:47
  own
• 21:48
  video
• 21:48
  equipment
• 21:50
  so
• 21:50
  he
• 21:50
  could
• 21:51
  study
• 21:51
  hitting.
• 21:52
  Wow.
• 21:53
  Yeah.
• 21:54
  And
• 21:55
  whatever
• 21:55
  he
• 21:56
  did,
• 21:56
  it
• 21:56
  worked,
• 21:56
  Jack.
• 21:59
  And
• 21:59
  good
• 22:00
  Lord's
• 22:00
  been
• 22:00
  good
• 22:00
  to
• 22:01
  me.
• 22:01
  Yeah.
• 22:02
  Now
• 22:03
  Jack
• 22:03
  McKeon
• 22:03
  retires
• 22:04
  with
• 22:04
  a
• 22:04
  record
• 22:05
  of
• 22:05
  1051
• 22:07
  wins,
• 22:08
  990
• 22:09
  losses.
• 22:10
  One
• 22:10
  of
• 22:11
  12
• 22:11
  managers
• 22:12
  to
• 22:13
  have
• 22:13
  1000
• 22:13
  wins
• 22:14
  without
• 22:15
  having
• 22:15
  lost
• 22:15
  a
• 22:16
  thousand
• 22:16
  games.
• 22:17
  Now,
• 22:17
  that's
• 22:18
  a
• 22:18
  pretty
• 22:18
  good
• 22:18
  stat,
• 22:19
  folks.
• 22:19
  You
• 22:19
  can
• 22:20
  look
• 22:20
  that
• 22:20
  one
• 22:20
  up
• 22:21
  now,
• 22:22
  Jack.
• 22:23
  I'll
• 22:24
  give
• 22:24
  you
• 22:24
  another
• 22:24
  one,
• 22:24
  Phil.
• 22:25
  Sure.
• 22:26
  I'm
• 22:26
  the
• 22:27
  only
• 22:27
  guy
• 22:27
  in
• 22:27
  the
• 22:28
  history
• 22:28
  of
• 22:28
  the
• 22:28
  game
• 22:28
  that's
• 22:28
  won
• 22:29
  a
• 22:29
  thousand
• 22:29
  games
• 22:29
  in
• 22:30
  the
• 22:30
  minor
• 22:30
  leagues
• 22:30
  and
• 22:30
  a
• 22:31
  thousand
• 22:31
  games
• 22:31
  in
• 22:31
  the
• 22:31
  major
• 22:32
  leagues.
• 22:32
  That's
• 22:32
  right.
• 22:33
  Yeah.
• 22:34
  And
• 22:35
  I'm
• 22:35
  one
• 22:35
  of
• 22:35
  the
• 22:35
  few
• 22:35
  guys
• 22:37
  in
• 22:37
  baseball
• 22:38
  that
• 22:39
  was
• 22:39
  in
• 22:39
  the
• 22:39
  Junior
• 22:40
  World
• 22:40
  Series,
• 22:42
  in
• 22:42
  the
• 22:43
  Major
• 22:43
  League
• 22:43
  World
• 22:43
  Series.
• 22:44
  That's
• 22:44
  when
• 22:44
  they
• 22:44
  had
• 22:44
  the
• 22:45
  International
• 22:45
  League
• 22:45
  and
• 22:47
  playing
• 22:47
  in
• 22:47
  the
• 22:48
  Junior
• 22:48
  World
• 22:48
  Series
• 22:49
  with
• 22:49
  the
• 22:49
  American
• 22:49
  Association.
• 22:50
  Yeah,
• 22:51
  that's
• 22:52
  another
• 22:52
  great
• 22:52
  stat,
• 22:53
  Jack.
• 22:53
  Yeah,
• 22:53
  to
• 22:54
  bring
• 22:54
  out.
• 22:54
  Thanks
• 22:55
  for
• 22:55
  bringing
• 22:55
  that
• 22:55
  up.
• 22:56
  Yeah,
• 22:56
  that's
• 22:57
  a
• 22:57
  great
• 22:57
  statistic.
• 22:58
  And
• 22:59
  you
• 22:59
  know,
• 22:59
  the
• 22:59
  funny
• 22:59
  thing
• 22:59
  is
• 23:00
  playing.
• 23:00
  We
• 23:00
  played
• 23:00
  Syracuse
• 23:01
  in
• 23:02
  the
• 23:02
  Junior
• 23:02
  World
• 23:02
  Series
• 23:03
  that
• 23:03
  year.
• 23:03
  They
• 23:03
  beat
• 23:04
  us
• 23:04
  in
• 23:05
  a
• 23:05
  Junior
• 23:05
  World
• 23:05
  Series.
• 23:06
  But
• 23:06
  the
• 23:06
  third
• 23:06
  baser
• 23:07
  for
• 23:07
  the
• 23:08
  Syracuse
• 23:09
  Chiefs
• 23:09
  was
• 23:09
  Bobby
• 23:10
  Cox.
• 23:11
  Yeah.
• 23:12
  There's
• 23:12
  another
• 23:12
  guy
• 23:13
  who
• 23:13
  won
• 23:13
  a
• 23:13
  few
• 23:14
  games,
• 23:14
  right?
• 23:14
  His
• 23:14
  manager.
• 23:15
  Yes,
• 23:16
  I
• 23:17
  remember
• 23:17
  him,
• 23:17
  Jack,
• 23:18
  back
• 23:19
  in,
• 23:19
  like,
• 23:19
  1968,
• 23:20
  when
• 23:21
  I
• 23:22
  used
• 23:22
  to
• 23:22
  watch
• 23:22
  the
• 23:22
  Yankees
• 23:23
  and
• 23:23
  Mandel
• 23:24
  was
• 23:25
  in
• 23:25
  his
• 23:25
  final
• 23:25
  year.
• 23:26
  Bobby
• 23:27
  Cox
• 23:27
  at
• 23:27
  third
• 23:28
  base.
• 23:28
  Jake
• 23:28
  Gibbs
• 23:30
  Stottlemeier
• 23:31
  was
• 23:31
  about
• 23:31
  only
• 23:31
  the.
• 23:32
  The
• 23:32
  only
• 23:33
  bright
• 23:33
  spot
• 23:33
  on
• 23:34
  those
• 23:35
  Yankee
• 23:35
  ball
• 23:35
  clubs.
• 23:36
  They
• 23:36
  call
• 23:37
  it
• 23:37
  the
• 23:37
  Horace
• 23:37
  Clark
• 23:38
  era,
• 23:40
  named
• 23:40
  after
• 23:40
  poor
• 23:41
  Horace
• 23:41
  Clark.
• 23:42
  Taking
• 23:42
  the
• 23:42
  brunt
• 23:43
  of
• 23:43
  the
• 23:43
  abuse
• 23:44
  for
• 23:44
  that.
• 23:45
  Now,
• 23:45
  I
• 23:46
  want
• 23:46
  to
• 23:46
  ask
• 23:46
  you,
• 23:46
  Jack,
• 23:48
  this
• 23:48
  being
• 23:48
  easter
• 23:49
  Sunday,
• 23:50
  the
• 23:50
  2003
• 23:51
  Marlins
• 23:52
  in
• 23:52
  the
• 23:53
  League
• 23:53
  Championship
• 23:54
  Series,
• 23:55
  you
• 23:56
  said
• 23:56
  that
• 23:56
  that
• 23:56
  was
• 23:56
  due
• 23:57
  to
• 23:57
  the
• 23:57
  intercession
• 23:58
  of
• 23:58
  St.
• 23:58
  Teresa
• 23:59
  the
• 23:59
  Little.
• 24:00
  That's
• 24:00
  right.
• 24:01
  Tell
• 24:01
  us
• 24:01
  about
• 24:01
  that.
• 24:03
  Well,
• 24:03
  it
• 24:03
  was.
• 24:04
  That
• 24:04
  was
• 24:04
  one
• 24:04
  of
• 24:05
  my
• 24:05
  favorite
• 24:05
  saints,
• 24:05
  in
• 24:05
  fact,
• 24:06
  the
• 24:06
  owner,
• 24:07
  Jeffrey
• 24:08
  Lorian,
• 24:08
  great
• 24:08
  owner.
• 24:09
  The
• 24:09
  best
• 24:09
  owner
• 24:09
  I
• 24:10
  ever
• 24:10
  worked
• 24:10
  for.
• 24:10
  Yeah.
• 24:12
  New
• 24:12
  Yorker
• 24:12
  himself.
• 24:14
  I
• 24:14
  had
• 24:14
  a
• 24:14
  picture.
• 24:15
  I
• 24:15
  had
• 24:15
  a
• 24:15
  picture
• 24:16
  portrait
• 24:17
  of
• 24:20
  the
• 24:20
  little
• 24:20
  flower
• 24:20
  in
• 24:21
  my
• 24:21
  office.
• 24:21
  Donna.
• 24:21
  And
• 24:22
  I
• 24:22
  don't
• 24:22
  forget
• 24:23
  every
• 24:23
  time
• 24:23
  we.
• 24:24
  We'd
• 24:24
  lose
• 24:24
  two
• 24:25
  or
• 24:25
  three
• 24:25
  games
• 24:25
  and
• 24:26
  he'd
• 24:26
  come
• 24:26
  in
• 24:26
  and
• 24:26
  he'd
• 24:27
  say,
• 24:28
  you
• 24:28
  better
• 24:28
  talk
• 24:29
  to
• 24:29
  a
• 24:29
  lady
• 24:29
  here
• 24:29
  and
• 24:30
  just
• 24:30
  get.
• 24:30
  Get
• 24:31
  this
• 24:31
  clip
• 24:31
  going.
• 24:34
  But,
• 24:36
  yeah,
• 24:36
  it
• 24:36
  was
• 24:36
  funny.
• 24:37
  I
• 24:37
  was
• 24:37
  in
• 24:37
  Chicago,
• 24:38
  I
• 24:38
  used
• 24:38
  to
• 24:38
  always
• 24:38
  go
• 24:38
  to.
• 24:39
  He's
• 24:39
  always
• 24:39
  going
• 24:40
  to
• 24:40
  go
• 24:40
  to
• 24:40
  Mass.
• 24:41
  When
• 24:41
  I
• 24:41
  was
• 24:41
  in
• 24:41
  Chicago.
• 24:42
  Yeah.
• 24:43
  And
• 24:43
  I
• 24:43
  went.
• 24:43
  And
• 24:44
  I
• 24:44
  go
• 24:44
  in
• 24:44
  there
• 24:44
  and
• 24:46
  I
• 24:47
  guess
• 24:47
  it's
• 24:47
  October
• 24:48
  1st
• 24:48
  or
• 24:48
  somewhere
• 24:49
  around
• 24:49
  there.
• 24:49
  Anyway,
• 24:50
  I
• 24:50
  go
• 24:50
  in
• 24:51
  there
• 24:51
  and
• 24:51
  then
• 24:52
  fast
• 24:52
  it
• 24:52
  comes
• 24:52
  by
• 24:53
  me.
• 24:53
  And
• 24:54
  he
• 24:54
  said.
• 24:56
  He
• 24:56
  said,
• 24:56
  I
• 24:56
  wish
• 24:56
  you
• 24:56
  good
• 24:57
  luck
• 24:57
  tonight.
• 24:57
  But
• 24:57
  he
• 24:57
  said,
• 24:57
  I'm
• 24:58
  a
• 24:58
  Cub
• 24:58
  fan,
• 24:58
  you
• 24:59
  know,
• 24:59
  and
• 25:00
  all
• 25:00
  that
• 25:00
  stuff.
• 25:00
  And
• 25:01
  he
• 25:02
  said,
• 25:03
  today
• 25:03
  is
• 25:03
  the
• 25:03
  feast
• 25:04
  of
• 25:04
  Saint
• 25:04
  Therese
• 25:06
  of
• 25:07
  Avilia
• 25:07
  Avila.
• 25:08
  Right.
• 25:09
  I
• 25:10
  said,
• 25:10
  oh.
• 25:10
  I
• 25:11
  said,
• 25:11
  well,
• 25:11
  that's
• 25:11
  good.
• 25:12
  I
• 25:12
  said,
• 25:12
  she's
• 25:12
  a
• 25:13
  cousin
• 25:13
  of
• 25:13
  the
• 25:14
  little
• 25:15
  flower
• 25:15
  saint.
• 25:15
  The
• 25:16
  rest.
• 25:16
  I
• 25:16
  said,
• 25:17
  we're
• 25:17
  in
• 25:17
  tonight.
• 25:18
  So
• 25:18
  I
• 25:18
  figured
• 25:18
  we're
• 25:19
  going
• 25:19
  to
• 25:19
  win
• 25:19
  tonight.
• 25:19
  And,
• 25:20
  you
• 25:21
  know,
• 25:21
  just
• 25:21
  so
• 25:21
  happened.
• 25:21
  We
• 25:22
  did.
• 25:23
  Yeah.
• 25:24
  And
• 25:24
  There
• 25:24
  you
• 25:24
  go,
• 25:24
  St.
• 25:25
  Teresa
• 25:25
  at
• 25:25
  work,
• 25:26
  folks.
• 25:26
  Oh,
• 25:27
  yeah,
• 25:27
  yeah.
• 25:27
  She
• 25:27
  was
• 25:28
  the
• 25:28
  Most
• 25:28
  Valuable
• 25:28
  player
• 25:29
  of
• 25:29
  the
• 25:29
  year.
• 25:30
  What
• 25:31
  do
• 25:31
  you
• 25:31
  think
• 25:31
  of
• 25:32
  the
• 25:32
  American
• 25:33
  Pope,
• 25:33
  Jack?
• 25:35
  I
• 25:35
  don't
• 25:35
  know.
• 25:35
  I
• 25:36
  don't
• 25:36
  know
• 25:36
  the
• 25:36
  guy.
• 25:37
  I
• 25:38
  know
• 25:38
  he's
• 25:38
  from
• 25:38
  Chicago.
• 25:39
  He's
• 25:40
  a
• 25:40
  White
• 25:40
  Sox
• 25:40
  fan,
• 25:40
  but,
• 25:41
  you
• 25:42
  know,
• 25:42
  if
• 25:43
  he
• 25:43
  was
• 25:43
  around
• 25:44
  long
• 25:44
  enough,
• 25:45
  I'd
• 25:46
  change
• 25:46
  him
• 25:46
  to
• 25:46
  a
• 25:46
  Marlins
• 25:47
  fan
• 25:47
  at
• 25:47
  the
• 25:47
  time.
• 25:49
  Well,
• 25:49
  he's
• 25:50
  got
• 25:50
  to
• 25:50
  be
• 25:50
  something
• 25:50
  special,
• 25:51
  Jack,
• 25:51
  if
• 25:51
  he's
• 25:52
  a
• 25:52
  White
• 25:52
  Sox
• 25:53
  fan.
• 25:53
  I
• 25:53
  mean,
• 25:54
  you
• 25:54
  know,
• 25:55
  he's
• 25:55
  got
• 25:56
  to
• 25:56
  have
• 25:56
  patience.
• 25:57
  He's
• 25:57
  got.
• 25:58
  Right,
• 25:59
  Yep,
• 25:59
  you're
• 25:59
  right.
• 26:00
  Well,
• 26:00
  you
• 26:00
  know,
• 26:00
  you
• 26:01
  talk
• 26:01
  about
• 26:01
  that
• 26:01
  is
• 26:01
  we
• 26:02
  play
• 26:02
  the
• 26:02
  Yankees
• 26:03
  and,
• 26:05
  you
• 26:05
  know,
• 26:05
  the
• 26:06
  writers
• 26:06
  say,
• 26:06
  well,
• 26:06
  you
• 26:06
  know,
• 26:07
  Joe
• 26:07
  Torre's
• 26:08
  got
• 26:08
  a.
• 26:08
  He's
• 26:09
  got
• 26:09
  an
• 26:09
  advantage
• 26:09
  over
• 26:09
  you.
• 26:10
  Of
• 26:10
  course,
• 26:10
  his
• 26:10
  sister's
• 26:11
  a
• 26:11
  nun
• 26:11
  and
• 26:11
  everything
• 26:11
  like
• 26:12
  that.
• 26:12
  Yeah,
• 26:12
  right.
• 26:13
  Yeah.
• 26:14
  I
• 26:14
  said,
• 26:14
  don't
• 26:15
  feel
• 26:15
  bad.
• 26:15
  I
• 26:16
  said,
• 26:16
  oh,
• 26:16
  I
• 26:16
  have.
• 26:17
  I
• 26:17
  said,
• 26:18
  right
• 26:18
  now,
• 26:19
  I
• 26:19
  got
• 26:19
  about
• 26:19
  three
• 26:19
  letters
• 26:20
  from
• 26:20
  the
• 26:21
  nuns
• 26:21
  in
• 26:21
  Boston.
• 26:22
  They're
• 26:23
  all
• 26:23
  rooting
• 26:23
  for
• 26:24
  me.
• 26:24
  So
• 26:25
  we
• 26:25
  got
• 26:25
  it
• 26:25
  covered.
• 26:26
  Yeah.
• 26:27
  I
• 26:27
  remember
• 26:28
  nuns
• 26:28
  used
• 26:28
  to
• 26:28
  show
• 26:29
  up
• 26:29
  at
• 26:29
  Shea
• 26:29
  Stadium
• 26:30
  back
• 26:32
  to
• 26:33
  root.
• 26:33
  I
• 26:33
  remember
• 26:34
  they
• 26:34
  used
• 26:34
  to
• 26:34
  have
• 26:34
  a
• 26:34
  sign
• 26:35
  for
• 26:35
  Cleon
• 26:35
  Jones,
• 26:36
  and
• 26:38
  they'd
• 26:38
  be
• 26:38
  rooting
• 26:38
  on
• 26:39
  the
• 26:39
  Mets.
• 26:39
  The
• 26:39
  good
• 26:39
  sisters.
• 26:42
  A
• 26:42
  great
• 26:42
  memory.
• 26:43
  Now,
• 26:44
  of
• 26:44
  all
• 26:44
  the
• 26:44
  guys
• 26:44
  you
• 26:45
  manage,
• 26:45
  Jack,
• 26:47
  who
• 26:47
  would
• 26:48
  you
• 26:48
  name
• 26:48
  as
• 26:48
  the
• 26:48
  greatest
• 26:49
  player
• 26:50
  in
• 26:51
  your
• 26:51
  tenure?
• 26:53
  I
• 26:54
  tell
• 26:54
  you,
• 26:54
  I
• 26:54
  got.
• 26:54
  So
• 26:55
  I
• 26:55
  get
• 26:55
  that
• 26:55
  question
• 26:56
  all
• 26:56
  the
• 26:56
  time,
• 26:56
  but
• 26:56
  I
• 26:57
  got
• 26:57
  to
• 26:57
  so
• 26:57
  many
• 26:57
  guys
• 26:58
  that
• 26:59
  were
• 26:59
  keys,
• 26:59
  that
• 27:00
  I
• 27:00
  thought
• 27:00
  were
• 27:01
  tremendous
• 27:01
  guys.
• 27:02
  I
• 27:02
  probably
• 27:02
  got
• 27:02
  about
• 27:03
  five
• 27:03
  or
• 27:03
  six
• 27:03
  of
• 27:03
  them.
• 27:04
  I
• 27:04
  got
• 27:04
  Jim
• 27:05
  Kot,
• 27:05
  number
• 27:05
  one.
• 27:06
  Okay.
• 27:07
  George
• 27:08
  Brett,
• 27:08
  Holly
• 27:09
  Gwynn,
• 27:10
  Robbie
• 27:10
  Alomar,
• 27:12
  Sean
• 27:13
  Casey.
• 27:18
  I
• 27:18
  got
• 27:18
  Brett
• 27:19
  Casey,
• 27:20
  and
• 27:20
  Pudge
• 27:21
  led
• 27:21
  with
• 27:21
  this.
• 27:22
  You
• 27:22
  know,
• 27:23
  I
• 27:24
  could
• 27:24
  probably
• 27:24
  name
• 27:24
  six
• 27:25
  or
• 27:25
  seven
• 27:26
  guys
• 27:26
  that
• 27:26
  were
• 27:27
  really
• 27:28
  the
• 27:28
  most
• 27:28
  outstanding
• 27:29
  guys.
• 27:29
  Tony
• 27:30
  Oliva,
• 27:31
  you
• 27:31
  know,
• 27:31
  guys
• 27:32
  like
• 27:32
  that
• 27:34
  and,
• 27:34
  you
• 27:34
  know,
• 27:34
  it's
• 27:35
  tough
• 27:35
  to
• 27:35
  signal
• 27:36
  one
• 27:36
  guy
• 27:36
  out,
• 27:37
  but.
• 27:38
  No,
• 27:38
  you
• 27:39
  did
• 27:39
  a
• 27:39
  great
• 27:39
  job.
• 27:39
  There's
• 27:40
  some.
• 27:40
  Some
• 27:40
  great
• 27:41
  ball
• 27:41
  players
• 27:41
  you
• 27:41
  had
• 27:42
  under
• 27:42
  you
• 27:42
  there.
• 27:43
  It
• 27:43
  was
• 27:43
  good
• 27:43
  to
• 27:43
  see
• 27:44
  Tony
• 27:44
  Oliva
• 27:45
  finally
• 27:45
  make
• 27:45
  it
• 27:45
  to
• 27:45
  Cooperstown.
• 27:46
  Yeah,
• 27:47
  yeah,
• 27:47
  it
• 27:47
  was.
• 27:47
  Yeah,
• 27:48
  I.
• 27:49
  I
• 27:49
  had
• 27:49
  him
• 27:49
  down
• 27:50
  in
• 27:50
  Dallas.
• 27:51
  Fort
• 27:51
  Worth,
• 27:52
  Texas.
• 27:52
  Yeah.
• 27:53
  In
• 27:53
  the.
• 27:53
  In
• 27:54
  the
• 27:54
  Pacific
• 27:55
  Coast
• 27:55
  League
• 27:55
  the
• 27:56
  year
• 27:56
  Kennedy
• 27:57
  got
• 27:57
  killed
• 27:57
  that
• 27:57
  year.
• 27:58
  And
• 28:01
  he
• 28:01
  started
• 28:01
  off
• 28:02
  poorly
• 28:03
  hitting.
• 28:04
  You
• 28:04
  know,
• 28:05
  he
• 28:05
  hit
• 28:06
  3
• 28:06
  or
• 28:06
  350
• 28:07
  in
• 28:08
  double
• 28:08
  A.
• 28:09
  And
• 28:09
  it
• 28:09
  brought
• 28:09
  him
• 28:09
  up
• 28:09
  to
• 28:10
  the
• 28:10
  aaa
• 28:11
  and
• 28:11
  he.
• 28:12
  He
• 28:12
  struggled.
• 28:13
  And
• 28:13
  Randy
• 28:13
  Johnson
• 28:14
  was
• 28:14
  the
• 28:14
  owner
• 28:15
  of
• 28:15
  the
• 28:15
  Dallas
• 28:15
  club.
• 28:16
  And
• 28:16
  after
• 28:17
  about
• 28:17
  three
• 28:17
  weeks,
• 28:18
  he
• 28:18
  called
• 28:18
  Calvin
• 28:19
  Griffin
• 28:19
  and
• 28:19
  said,
• 28:19
  oh,
• 28:20
  this
• 28:20
  guy
• 28:20
  can't
• 28:20
  play
• 28:21
  and
• 28:21
  everything.
• 28:21
  Calvin
• 28:22
  called
• 28:22
  me
• 28:22
  and
• 28:23
  he
• 28:23
  said.
• 28:23
  I
• 28:23
  said,
• 28:24
  calvin,
• 28:24
  don't
• 28:24
  worry
• 28:24
  about
• 28:25
  this
• 28:25
  guy.
• 28:25
  I
• 28:25
  said,
• 28:26
  we're
• 28:26
  going
• 28:26
  on
• 28:26
  a
• 28:26
  road
• 28:27
  trip
• 28:27
  for
• 28:27
  about
• 28:27
  10
• 28:27
  days.
• 28:28
  He'll
• 28:28
  be
• 28:29
  fine.
• 28:29
  We
• 28:30
  went
• 28:30
  on
• 28:30
  the
• 28:30
  road,
• 28:30
  he
• 28:30
  was
• 28:31
  hitting.119
• 28:32
  when
• 28:32
  we
• 28:32
  went
• 28:32
  on
• 28:32
  the
• 28:32
  road.
• 28:33
  We
• 28:33
  went
• 28:34
  on
• 28:34
  the
• 28:34
  road
• 28:34
  as
• 28:34
  3
• 28:35
  for
• 28:35
  3,
• 28:35
  3
• 28:36
  for
• 28:36
  4,
• 28:36
  4
• 28:36
  for
• 28:37
  5,
• 28:37
  2
• 28:37
  for
• 28:38
  3.
• 28:38
  We
• 28:39
  came
• 28:39
  back,
• 28:39
  he
• 28:39
  was
• 28:39
  hitting.329.
• 28:41
  Never
• 28:41
  had
• 28:42
  another
• 28:42
  question.
• 28:42
  So
• 28:43
  now,
• 28:43
  at
• 28:43
  the
• 28:43
  end
• 28:43
  of
• 28:43
  the
• 28:43
  year,
• 28:45
  I'm
• 28:45
  making
• 28:45
  my
• 28:45
  reports
• 28:46
  out,
• 28:46
  and
• 28:47
  the
• 28:47
  owner,
• 28:47
  Ray
• 28:48
  Johnson,
• 28:48
  he
• 28:49
  said,
• 28:49
  can
• 28:49
  I
• 28:49
  have
• 28:49
  a
• 28:50
  copy
• 28:50
  of
• 28:50
  these?
• 28:52
  I
• 28:52
  said,
• 28:52
  well,
• 28:52
  you
• 28:52
  have
• 28:53
  a
• 28:53
  copy.
• 28:54
  And
• 28:54
  he
• 28:54
  looked
• 28:54
  at
• 28:55
  him,
• 28:55
  he
• 28:55
  said,
• 28:55
  yeah,
• 28:55
  I
• 28:55
  think
• 28:55
  you're
• 28:56
  making
• 28:56
  a
• 28:56
  big
• 28:56
  mistake
• 28:57
  here.
• 28:57
  And
• 28:57
  I
• 28:57
  said,
• 28:57
  what's
• 28:57
  that?
• 28:58
  He
• 28:58
  said,
• 28:59
  tony
• 28:59
  Oliva.
• 29:00
  I
• 29:00
  said,
• 29:00
  no,
• 29:01
  he.
• 29:02
  He's
• 29:02
  not
• 29:02
  ready
• 29:02
  for
• 29:02
  the
• 29:02
  Bay
• 29:03
  League.
• 29:03
  He
• 29:04
  needs
• 29:04
  another
• 29:04
  year
• 29:05
  here.
• 29:05
  I
• 29:05
  guess
• 29:05
  so,
• 29:06
  because
• 29:06
  he
• 29:06
  was
• 29:06
  a
• 29:06
  hell
• 29:06
  of
• 29:07
  a
• 29:07
  player
• 29:07
  for
• 29:07
  Dallas.
• 29:08
  Yeah.
• 29:08
  So
• 29:08
  I
• 29:09
  go.
• 29:09
  So
• 29:09
  after
• 29:09
  the
• 29:10
  season,
• 29:10
  I
• 29:10
  go
• 29:10
  to
• 29:11
  Minnesota
• 29:12
  and
• 29:12
  spend
• 29:13
  a
• 29:13
  week
• 29:13
  up
• 29:13
  there
• 29:13
  with
• 29:14
  the
• 29:14
  major
• 29:14
  league
• 29:14
  club.
• 29:15
  And
• 29:15
  Calvin
• 29:15
  Griffith
• 29:16
  gets
• 29:16
  the
• 29:16
  press
• 29:17
  together.
• 29:17
  And
• 29:18
  he
• 29:18
  said,
• 29:19
  jack,
• 29:19
  I
• 29:19
  want
• 29:19
  you
• 29:20
  to
• 29:20
  talk
• 29:20
  to
• 29:20
  the
• 29:20
  press
• 29:21
  about
• 29:21
  some
• 29:21
  of
• 29:21
  these
• 29:21
  players.
• 29:23
  So
• 29:23
  the
• 29:23
  press
• 29:23
  is
• 29:24
  all
• 29:24
  grilling
• 29:24
  me
• 29:24
  about
• 29:25
  all
• 29:25
  the
• 29:25
  players
• 29:26
  we
• 29:26
  had.
• 29:27
  And
• 29:27
  he
• 29:27
  said
• 29:28
  that
• 29:28
  I'll
• 29:28
  leave
• 29:28
  him
• 29:29
  now.
• 29:29
  What
• 29:29
  do
• 29:30
  you
• 29:30
  think?
• 29:30
  Do
• 29:30
  you
• 29:30
  think
• 29:30
  he
• 29:31
  can
• 29:31
  play
• 29:31
  up
• 29:31
  on
• 29:31
  the
• 29:31
  middle?
• 29:32
  I
• 29:32
  said,
• 29:32
  you're
• 29:32
  talking
• 29:33
  about
• 29:33
  regular?
• 29:34
  I
• 29:35
  said,
• 29:35
  yeah.
• 29:35
  He
• 29:36
  said,
• 29:36
  yeah.
• 29:37
  I
• 29:37
  said,
• 29:37
  well,
• 29:38
  there's
• 29:39
  only
• 29:39
  one
• 29:39
  thing
• 29:39
  that
• 29:39
  bothers
• 29:40
  me,
• 29:40
  and,
• 29:40
  boy,
• 29:40
  they
• 29:41
  all
• 29:41
  got
• 29:41
  their
• 29:41
  pencils
• 29:41
  out.
• 29:43
  He
• 29:44
  said,
• 29:45
  what.
• 29:45
  What
• 29:45
  bothers
• 29:46
  you?
• 29:46
  I
• 29:46
  said,
• 29:47
  the
• 29:47
  only
• 29:47
  thing
• 29:47
  that
• 29:48
  bothers
• 29:48
  me
• 29:48
  is
• 29:48
  I
• 29:48
  don't
• 29:49
  know
• 29:49
  how
• 29:49
  much
• 29:50
  above.300
• 29:51
  he's
• 29:51
  going
• 29:51
  to
• 29:51
  hit.
• 29:52
  Yeah,
• 29:53
  he
• 29:54
  led
• 29:54
  the
• 29:54
  wing
• 29:54
  in
• 29:54
  hitting
• 29:54
  two
• 29:55
  years
• 29:55
  in
• 29:56
  a
• 29:56
  row.
• 29:57
  Yeah.
• 29:58
  One
• 29:58
  thing
• 29:58
  Tony
• 29:59
  could
• 29:59
  do
• 29:59
  was
• 29:59
  hit.
• 30:00
  Oh,.
• 30:03
  And
• 30:03
  Jack
• 30:04
  McKeon,
• 30:04
  it's
• 30:05
  been
• 30:05
  an
• 30:05
  honor
• 30:05
  and
• 30:05
  a
• 30:05
  pleasure.
• 30:06
  I
• 30:07
  thank
• 30:07
  you,
• 30:07
  Jack,
• 30:07
  for
• 30:08
  taking
• 30:08
  time
• 30:08
  out
• 30:08
  of
• 30:08
  your
• 30:09
  Easter
• 30:09
  Sunday
• 30:10
  night
• 30:10
  to
• 30:10
  spend
• 30:11
  it
• 30:11
  with
• 30:11
  us
• 30:11
  here
• 30:11
  in
• 30:12
  Sports
• 30:12
  Talk
• 30:12
  New
• 30:13
  York.
• 30:13
  I
• 30:14
  wish
• 30:14
  all
• 30:15
  the
• 30:15
  best
• 30:15
  to
• 30:15
  you
• 30:15
  and
• 30:16
  your
• 30:16
  family,
• 30:16
  Jack,
• 30:17
  and
• 30:18
  hopefully
• 30:18
  we'll
• 30:18
  get
• 30:18
  to
• 30:19
  talk
• 30:19
  to
• 30:19
  you
• 30:19
  again.
• 30:20
  Thank
• 30:21
  you.
• 30:21
  I
• 30:21
  need
• 30:21
  more
• 30:21
  time
• 30:22
  next
• 30:22
  time,
• 30:22
  Phil.
• 30:23
  Yeah,
• 30:24
  we'll
• 30:24
  get
• 30:24
  more
• 30:25
  time,
• 30:25
  Jack,
• 30:25
  and
• 30:26
  we'll
• 30:26
  dig
• 30:26
  into
• 30:26
  Charlie
• 30:27
  O
• 30:27
  and.
• 30:28
  Oh,
• 30:28
  boy,
• 30:28
  oh,
• 30:28
  boy,
• 30:29
  we'll
• 30:29
  have
• 30:29
  a
• 30:29
  ball
• 30:29
  there.
• 30:30
  Yeah.
• 30:30
  Thanks
• 30:31
  again,
• 30:31
  Jack.
• 30:31
  You
• 30:32
  take
• 30:32
  care.
• 30:32
  Okay.
• 30:33
  Thank
• 30:33
  you
• 30:34
  so
• 30:34
  much.
• 30:34
  Right
• 30:34
  off.
• 30:35
  That's
• 30:35
  the
• 30:35
  great
• 30:35
  Jack
• 30:36
  McKeon,
• 30:36
  ladies
• 30:37
  and
• 30:37
  gentlemen.
• 30:37
  Up
• 30:37
  next
• 30:38
  on
• 30:38
  Sports
• 30:38
  Talk
• 30:39
  New
• 30:39
  York,
• 30:39
  we'll
• 30:40
  welcome
• 30:40
  a
• 30:40
  member
• 30:41
  of
• 30:41
  the
• 30:41
  1962
• 30:43
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• 30:43
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• 30:43
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• 30:44
  Craig
• 30:44
  Anderson.
• 30:45
  Stick
• 30:46
  around,
• 30:46
  folks.
• 31:02
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• 31:02
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• 31:03
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• 31:05
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• 31:05
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• 31:55
  on
• 31:56
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• 31:56
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• 31:56
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• 31:57
  Sunday,
• 31:57
  you
• 31:58
  heard
• 31:59
  Jack
• 31:59
  McKeon
• 32:00
  talking
• 32:00
  about
• 32:00
  St.
• 32:01
  Teresa,
• 32:01
  so
• 32:02
  we're
• 32:03
  getting
• 32:03
  a
• 32:03
  little
• 32:03
  religion
• 32:04
  in
• 32:04
  there
• 32:05
  along
• 32:05
  the
• 32:05
  way.
• 32:06
  Let's
• 32:07
  welcome
• 32:07
  in
• 32:07
  our
• 32:07
  next
• 32:08
  guest.
• 32:08
  Our
• 32:08
  next
• 32:09
  guest,
• 32:09
  an
• 32:10
  immortal
• 32:10
  baseball
• 32:11
  legend
• 32:11
  to
• 32:11
  me,
• 32:12
  being
• 32:13
  one
• 32:13
  of
• 32:13
  the
• 32:13
  few
• 32:13
  remaining
• 32:14
  1962
• 32:15
  New
• 32:15
  York
• 32:16
  Mets
• 32:16
  who
• 32:17
  are
• 32:17
  still
• 32:17
  with
• 32:18
  us.
• 32:18
  Along
• 32:19
  with
• 32:19
  other
• 32:19
  distinctions
• 32:20
  in
• 32:21
  his
• 32:21
  major
• 32:21
  league
• 32:22
  career,
• 32:23
  he
• 32:23
  was
• 32:24
  the
• 32:24
  losing
• 32:24
  pitcher
• 32:25
  in
• 32:25
  the
• 32:25
  final
• 32:25
  game
• 32:26
  ever
• 32:27
  at
• 32:27
  the
• 32:27
  Polo
• 32:28
  Ground.
• 32:28
  So
• 32:29
  it's
• 32:29
  an
• 32:29
  honor
• 32:29
  and
• 32:30
  a
• 32:30
  pleasure
• 32:30
  to
• 32:30
  welcome
• 32:31
  to
• 32:31
  Sports
• 32:31
  Talk
• 32:31
  New
• 32:32
  York
• 32:32
  tonight
• 32:33
  Mr.
• 32:33
  Craig
• 32:34
  Anderson.
• 32:34
  Craig,
• 32:35
  good
• 32:35
  evening.
• 32:36
  Good
• 32:37
  evening.
• 32:37
  Thank
• 32:37
  you
• 32:38
  very
• 32:38
  much
• 32:38
  for
• 32:38
  having
• 32:38
  me
• 32:39
  on.
• 32:39
  Wonderful.
• 32:40
  It's
• 32:40
  great
• 32:40
  to
• 32:41
  hear
• 32:41
  your
• 32:41
  voice.
• 32:41
  Great
• 32:42
  to
• 32:42
  have
• 32:42
  you
• 32:42
  with
• 32:42
  us,
• 32:43
  Craig.
• 32:43
  Now,
• 32:44
  you
• 32:44
  grew
• 32:44
  up
• 32:45
  in
• 32:45
  the
• 32:45
  D.C.
• 32:45
  area.
• 32:46
  Who
• 32:46
  are
• 32:47
  your
• 32:47
  favorite
• 32:47
  teams
• 32:48
  and
• 32:48
  sports
• 32:48
  heroes
• 32:49
  when
• 32:49
  you
• 32:49
  were
• 32:49
  a
• 32:50
  kid?
• 32:51
  Well,
• 32:52
  Washington
• 32:53
  Senators
• 32:53
  and
• 32:54
  the
• 32:54
  Washington
• 32:54
  Redskins
• 32:55
  were
• 32:55
  my
• 32:56
  two
• 32:56
  main
• 32:57
  teams
• 32:57
  that
• 32:57
  I
• 32:57
  followed,
• 32:58
  like
• 32:58
  the
• 32:58
  Sammy
• 32:59
  Ball,
• 32:59
  quarterback
• 33:00
  for
• 33:00
  the
• 33:00
  Redskins.
• 33:01
  Oh,
• 33:01
  yeah,
• 33:02
  and
• 33:02
  Camilo
• 33:03
  Pasquale
• 33:04
  and
• 33:04
  Jackie
• 33:05
  Jensen
• 33:05
  for
• 33:05
  the
• 33:06
  Senator.
• 33:06
  Mickey
• 33:06
  Vernon,
• 33:07
  Jim
• 33:08
  Busby,
• 33:09
  Gil
• 33:09
  Cohen.
• 33:10
  Yeah,
• 33:10
  Pasquale,
• 33:11
  he
• 33:11
  was
• 33:12
  an
• 33:12
  excellent
• 33:12
  picture.
• 33:13
  And
• 33:14
  they,
• 33:14
  you
• 33:15
  know,
• 33:15
  they
• 33:15
  were
• 33:15
  first
• 33:16
  in
• 33:16
  war,
• 33:16
  first
• 33:17
  in
• 33:17
  peace
• 33:17
  and
• 33:18
  last
• 33:18
  in
• 33:18
  the
• 33:18
  American
• 33:19
  League.
• 33:21
  Yeah,
• 33:22
  I
• 33:22
  had,
• 33:22
  I
• 33:22
  had
• 33:22
  Camillo
• 33:23
  Pasquale's
• 33:24
  card
• 33:24
  when
• 33:24
  I
• 33:25
  was
• 33:25
  a
• 33:25
  kid.
• 33:26
  He
• 33:26
  stuck
• 33:27
  around
• 33:27
  a
• 33:27
  long
• 33:28
  time
• 33:28
  and
• 33:28
  like
• 33:28
  you
• 33:28
  said,
• 33:29
  a
• 33:30
  good
• 33:30
  pitcher.
• 33:30
  Camilo
• 33:31
  Pasquale.
• 33:31
  Folks,
• 33:32
  look
• 33:32
  up
• 33:32
  that
• 33:33
  gentleman.
• 33:34
  He's
• 33:34
  still
• 33:34
  with
• 33:34
  us.
• 33:35
  He's
• 33:35
  living
• 33:35
  in
• 33:35
  Miami,
• 33:36
  I
• 33:36
  believe.
• 33:36
  He's
• 33:37
  still
• 33:37
  around.
• 33:37
  Camilo.
• 33:39
  Now,
• 33:39
  that's
• 33:39
  good.
• 33:40
  Yeah.
• 33:42
  Your
• 33:42
  major
• 33:43
  league
• 33:43
  debut,
• 33:44
  Craig,
• 33:45
  you
• 33:46
  got
• 33:46
  Maze
• 33:46
  and
• 33:47
  McCovey
• 33:47
  out.
• 33:48
  What
• 33:48
  a
• 33:49
  great
• 33:49
  appearance.
• 33:50
  You
• 33:50
  doubled
• 33:51
  in
• 33:51
  your
• 33:51
  first
• 33:51
  at
• 33:52
  bat,
• 33:52
  right?
• 33:53
  That's
• 33:54
  right.
• 33:54
  That's
• 33:55
  right.
• 33:56
  That's
• 33:57
  right.
• 33:57
  I'll
• 33:57
  tell
• 33:57
  you
• 33:57
  what,
• 33:58
  that
• 33:58
  was
• 33:58
  a
• 34:00
  special
• 34:00
  moment
• 34:00
  that
• 34:01
  I
• 34:01
  had
• 34:01
  no
• 34:01
  idea
• 34:02
  was
• 34:02
  Going
• 34:02
  to
• 34:02
  be
• 34:02
  a
• 34:03
  special
• 34:03
  moment
• 34:04
  because
• 34:04
  I
• 34:04
  was
• 34:05
  called
• 34:05
  up
• 34:06
  the
• 34:06
  night
• 34:06
  before
• 34:06
  or
• 34:07
  the
• 34:07
  afternoon
• 34:07
  before
• 34:08
  I
• 34:08
  got
• 34:08
  into
• 34:08
  St.
• 34:09
  Louis
• 34:10
  and
• 34:11
  all
• 34:11
  I
• 34:11
  did
• 34:11
  was
• 34:12
  get
• 34:12
  ready
• 34:13
  to
• 34:13
  go
• 34:13
  to
• 34:13
  the
• 34:13
  stadium
• 34:14
  the
• 34:14
  next
• 34:14
  day
• 34:15
  and
• 34:15
  get
• 34:16
  my
• 34:16
  uniform
• 34:17
  and
• 34:17
  go
• 34:17
  through
• 34:17
  pre
• 34:18
  game.
• 34:18
  And
• 34:19
  then
• 34:19
  I
• 34:19
  was
• 34:19
  sure
• 34:19
  I
• 34:20
  was
• 34:20
  just
• 34:20
  going
• 34:20
  to
• 34:20
  be
• 34:20
  sitting
• 34:21
  in
• 34:21
  the
• 34:21
  bullpen
• 34:22
  as
• 34:22
  a
• 34:22
  rookie
• 34:23
  and
• 34:23
  watch
• 34:24
  the
• 34:24
  game.
• 34:25
  Well,
• 34:25
  I
• 34:26
  was
• 34:26
  sitting
• 34:26
  in
• 34:26
  the
• 34:26
  bullpen.
• 34:27
  That
• 34:27
  part
• 34:27
  was
• 34:27
  all.
• 34:28
  Everything
• 34:29
  was
• 34:29
  all
• 34:29
  right
• 34:29
  to
• 34:29
  that
• 34:30
  point.
• 34:30
  But
• 34:30
  about
• 34:31
  the
• 34:31
  fifth
• 34:32
  or
• 34:32
  sixth
• 34:32
  inning,
• 34:33
  we're
• 34:34
  losing
• 34:34
  54
• 34:35
  to
• 34:35
  the
• 34:35
  Giants.
• 34:36
  And
• 34:37
  the
• 34:37
  pitching
• 34:38
  coach,
• 34:38
  Howie
• 34:38
  Paulette,
• 34:39
  there
• 34:39
  goes
• 34:39
  back
• 34:40
  a
• 34:40
  name,
• 34:40
  too.
• 34:40
  Yeah,
• 34:40
  there's
• 34:41
  another
• 34:41
  good
• 34:41
  one.
• 34:42
  Anderson.
• 34:43
  They
• 34:43
  want
• 34:43
  you
• 34:43
  to
• 34:43
  warm
• 34:44
  up.
• 34:45
  Well,
• 34:45
  I
• 34:45
  mean,
• 34:45
  I
• 34:46
  was
• 34:46
  shocked.
• 34:47
  I
• 34:47
  was
• 34:47
  shocked.
• 34:48
  But
• 34:48
  hey,
• 34:49
  you're
• 34:49
  there
• 34:49
  to
• 34:50
  play
• 34:50
  ball.
• 34:50
  So
• 34:51
  I
• 34:51
  got
• 34:51
  up
• 34:51
  and
• 34:51
  with,
• 34:52
  you
• 34:52
  know,
• 34:53
  my
• 34:53
  stomach
• 34:53
  pumping
• 34:54
  and
• 34:54
  everything
• 34:54
  else,
• 34:55
  but
• 34:55
  I
• 34:55
  warmed
• 34:55
  up
• 34:55
  and
• 34:56
  I
• 34:56
  felt
• 34:56
  okay.
• 34:57
  And
• 34:57
  we
• 34:58
  were
• 34:58
  losing
• 34:58
  and
• 34:58
  they
• 34:59
  brought
• 34:59
  me
• 34:59
  in
• 34:59
  the
• 34:59
  game
• 35:01
  in
• 35:02
  the
• 35:02
  bottom
• 35:02
  of
• 35:02
  the
• 35:03
  sixth,
• 35:03
  I
• 35:03
  want
• 35:03
  to
• 35:03
  say
• 35:04
  bottom
• 35:04
  of
• 35:04
  the
• 35:04
  sixth,
• 35:06
  and
• 35:07
  it
• 35:07
  might
• 35:08
  have
• 35:08
  been
• 35:08
  the
• 35:08
  fifth,
• 35:08
  I
• 35:08
  can't
• 35:09
  remember.
• 35:09
  Sure.
• 35:09
  But
• 35:09
  anyway,
• 35:12
  I
• 35:12
  came
• 35:12
  in
• 35:12
  and
• 35:12
  we're
• 35:13
  down
• 35:13
  one,
• 35:13
  and
• 35:14
  I
• 35:14
  had
• 35:14
  to
• 35:14
  face.
• 35:15
  Fortunately,
• 35:16
  the
• 35:16
  first
• 35:16
  hitter
• 35:16
  I
• 35:16
  faced
• 35:17
  with
• 35:17
  a
• 35:17
  man
• 35:17
  on
• 35:17
  first
• 35:18
  and
• 35:18
  one
• 35:18
  out
• 35:19
  in
• 35:19
  this
• 35:19
  inning
• 35:20
  was
• 35:20
  a
• 35:21
  pitcher.
• 35:22
  And
• 35:22
  I
• 35:23
  was
• 35:23
  pumped
• 35:23
  up
• 35:23
  to
• 35:24
  throw
• 35:24
  hard,
• 35:24
  and
• 35:24
  I
• 35:24
  threw
• 35:25
  hard
• 35:25
  and
• 35:25
  I
• 35:25
  actually
• 35:26
  got
• 35:26
  a
• 35:26
  third
• 35:27
  strike
• 35:27
  called.
• 35:28
  And
• 35:28
  that
• 35:28
  was
• 35:29
  two
• 35:29
  outs.
• 35:29
  There
• 35:29
  was
• 35:29
  one
• 35:30
  out
• 35:30
  when
• 35:30
  I
• 35:30
  came
• 35:30
  in,
• 35:31
  and
• 35:32
  there
• 35:32
  was
• 35:32
  two
• 35:32
  outs,
• 35:32
  and
• 35:33
  the
• 35:33
  guy
• 35:33
  on
• 35:33
  first
• 35:34
  thought
• 35:34
  he
• 35:34
  was
• 35:34
  going
• 35:34
  to
• 35:34
  steal.
• 35:35
  And
• 35:35
  my
• 35:35
  catcher,
• 35:36
  Carl
• 35:36
  Sawatsky,
• 35:38
  threw
• 35:38
  the
• 35:39
  runner
• 35:39
  out
• 35:39
  at
• 35:39
  second.
• 35:40
  So
• 35:40
  I
• 35:41
  had
• 35:41
  a
• 35:41
  quick
• 35:42
  entrance
• 35:42
  and
• 35:42
  a
• 35:43
  quick
• 35:43
  exit,
• 35:43
  which
• 35:44
  was
• 35:44
  good,
• 35:45
  good,
• 35:45
  because
• 35:46
  we're
• 35:46
  only
• 35:46
  down
• 35:46
  one.
• 35:47
  And
• 35:47
  so
• 35:47
  now
• 35:48
  I
• 35:48
  pitched
• 35:49
  the
• 35:49
  next
• 35:49
  inning
• 35:50
  and
• 35:51
  we
• 35:51
  didn't
• 35:51
  score.
• 35:52
  It
• 35:52
  was
• 35:52
  still
• 35:52
  5
• 35:53
  4.
• 35:54
  I
• 35:54
  came
• 35:54
  up.
• 35:55
  I
• 35:55
  was
• 35:55
  the
• 35:55
  first
• 35:55
  hitter
• 35:56
  up
• 35:56
  in
• 35:56
  the
• 35:56
  bottom
• 35:57
  of
• 35:57
  the
• 35:57
  top
• 35:57
  of
• 35:58
  the
• 35:58
  seventh.
• 35:59
  Excuse
• 35:59
  me,
• 35:59
  the
• 36:00
  bottom
• 36:00
  of
• 36:00
  the
• 36:00
  seventh
• 36:01
  inning.
• 36:02
  And
• 36:03
  the
• 36:03
  pitcher
• 36:04
  on
• 36:04
  San
• 36:04
  Francisco
• 36:06
  was
• 36:06
  a
• 36:07
  relief
• 36:07
  pitcher,
• 36:07
  but
• 36:08
  not
• 36:08
  a.
• 36:08
  Not
• 36:08
  a
• 36:09
  fireballer.
• 36:11
  And
• 36:12
  I
• 36:12
  was
• 36:12
  ready
• 36:12
  to
• 36:12
  swing
• 36:13
  the
• 36:13
  bat,
• 36:13
  so
• 36:13
  he
• 36:14
  threw
• 36:14
  one
• 36:14
  about
• 36:15
  chin
• 36:15
  high
• 36:16
  or
• 36:16
  right
• 36:16
  over
• 36:16
  the
• 36:17
  plate,
• 36:17
  and
• 36:17
  I
• 36:18
  hit
• 36:18
  a
• 36:18
  line
• 36:18
  drive
• 36:18
  down
• 36:19
  the
• 36:19
  right
• 36:19
  field
• 36:19
  line,
• 36:19
  which
• 36:20
  I'm.
• 36:20
  Jeez,
• 36:22
  I
• 36:22
  haven't
• 36:23
  got
• 36:23
  it
• 36:23
  all
• 36:23
  together
• 36:23
  yet,
• 36:24
  but
• 36:24
  I
• 36:24
  ran
• 36:24
  all
• 36:25
  the
• 36:25
  way
• 36:25
  to
• 36:25
  second
• 36:25
  base
• 36:26
  and
• 36:26
  got
• 36:26
  all
• 36:26
  second
• 36:26
  base.
• 36:27
  And
• 36:28
  I
• 36:28
  looked
• 36:28
  up
• 36:28
  and
• 36:29
  I
• 36:29
  stood
• 36:29
  down
• 36:29
  second,
• 36:30
  looked
• 36:30
  at
• 36:30
  the
• 36:30
  next
• 36:31
  crowd.
• 36:32
  My
• 36:32
  God,
• 36:32
  here
• 36:32
  I
• 36:33
  am,
• 36:33
  you
• 36:33
  know,
• 36:33
  I'm
• 36:34
  talking
• 36:34
  to
• 36:34
  myself.
• 36:35
  Yeah.
• 36:35
  But
• 36:35
  anyway,
• 36:36
  I
• 36:37
  was
• 36:37
  really
• 36:37
  pumped
• 36:38
  up
• 36:38
  at
• 36:38
  that
• 36:38
  point.
• 36:39
  Well,
• 36:39
  the
• 36:39
  next
• 36:39
  guy
• 36:40
  up,
• 36:41
  go
• 36:41
  tie,
• 36:41
  Julio,
• 36:42
  go
• 36:42
  tie.
• 36:43
  Right,
• 36:43
  shortstop,
• 36:44
  he
• 36:45
  hits
• 36:45
  a
• 36:45
  single,
• 36:45
  the
• 36:46
  left
• 36:46
  center.
• 36:46
  I'M
• 36:46
  glad
• 36:47
  it
• 36:47
  was
• 36:47
  left
• 36:47
  center
• 36:47
  because
• 36:48
  I
• 36:48
  wasn't
• 36:48
  a
• 36:48
  great
• 36:48
  runner.
• 36:49
  And
• 36:49
  I
• 36:50
  scored
• 36:50
  the
• 36:50
  tying
• 36:50
  run.
• 36:51
  Well,
• 36:51
  indeed.
• 36:52
  Got
• 36:52
  a
• 36:52
  hit.
• 36:53
  I
• 36:53
  got
• 36:53
  out
• 36:53
  of
• 36:54
  the
• 36:54
  first
• 36:54
  inning.
• 36:54
  What
• 36:55
  else
• 36:55
  could
• 36:55
  happen?
• 36:56
  Bring
• 36:57
  me
• 36:57
  in
• 36:57
  the
• 36:57
  next
• 36:57
  inning.
• 36:58
  Bring
• 36:59
  me
• 36:59
  in
• 36:59
  the
• 36:59
  next
• 36:59
  inning.
• 37:00
  Now
• 37:00
  this.
• 37:00
  We
• 37:01
  also
• 37:01
  scored
• 37:01
  another
• 37:01
  run
• 37:02
  in
• 37:02
  that
• 37:02
  inning,
• 37:03
  so
• 37:03
  it
• 37:03
  was
• 37:03
  six
• 37:03
  to
• 37:04
  five.
• 37:04
  And
• 37:04
  I
• 37:05
  go
• 37:05
  in
• 37:05
  to
• 37:05
  pitch
• 37:05
  the
• 37:07
  seventh.
• 37:07
  The
• 37:08
  seventh
• 37:08
  inning.
• 37:10
  I
• 37:10
  think
• 37:10
  I
• 37:10
  batted
• 37:10
  in
• 37:11
  the
• 37:11
  sixth
• 37:12
  and
• 37:12
  I.
• 37:12
  And
• 37:12
  I
• 37:12
  batted
• 37:13
  in
• 37:13
  the.
• 37:13
  Was
• 37:13
  the
• 37:14
  first
• 37:14
  batter
• 37:14
  in
• 37:14
  the
• 37:14
  seventh.
• 37:15
  Bottom
• 37:16
  of
• 37:16
  the
• 37:16
  seventh,
• 37:17
  and.
• 37:19
  And
• 37:19
  I
• 37:19
  got.
• 37:20
  So
• 37:20
  then
• 37:21
  I
• 37:22
  went
• 37:22
  to
• 37:23
  the.
• 37:23
  I
• 37:24
  went
• 37:24
  to
• 37:24
  the
• 37:24
  dugout
• 37:25
  and
• 37:25
  the
• 37:25
  next
• 37:25
  thing
• 37:26
  I
• 37:26
  know,
• 37:28
  the
• 37:28
  bases
• 37:29
  are
• 37:29
  loaded.
• 37:29
  Oh,
• 37:30
  boy.
• 37:30
  And
• 37:31
  Stan
• 37:31
  the
• 37:32
  Man's
• 37:32
  up
• 37:32
  there.
• 37:33
  How?
• 37:34
  Grand
• 37:34
  slam
• 37:35
  home
• 37:35
  run
• 37:36
  in
• 37:36
  the
• 37:36
  bottom
• 37:37
  of
• 37:37
  the
• 37:37
  seventh
• 37:37
  inning.
• 37:38
  So
• 37:38
  now
• 37:39
  I'm
• 37:39
  up
• 37:39
  for
• 37:39
  10
• 37:40
  to
• 37:40
  6.
• 37:40
  And
• 37:41
  wow,
• 37:43
  it
• 37:43
  was
• 37:43
  just
• 37:44
  a
• 37:44
  thrill.
• 37:44
  I
• 37:45
  could
• 37:45
  not,
• 37:45
  cannot
• 37:46
  imagine.
• 37:46
  Anyway,
• 37:47
  so
• 37:47
  I
• 37:47
  pitched
• 37:47
  the
• 37:48
  next
• 37:48
  two
• 37:48
  innings
• 37:48
  without
• 37:48
  any
• 37:49
  problem.
• 37:49
  I
• 37:50
  gave
• 37:50
  up
• 37:50
  a
• 37:50
  couple
• 37:50
  of
• 37:50
  hits,
• 37:51
  but
• 37:51
  no
• 37:51
  runs
• 37:51
  and
• 37:52
  we
• 37:52
  won
• 37:52
  the
• 37:52
  game
• 37:52
  10
• 37:53
  to
• 37:53
  5.
• 37:54
  And
• 37:55
  yes,
• 37:55
  that
• 37:56
  was
• 37:56
  something
• 37:56
  else
• 37:57
  for
• 37:57
  me,
• 37:57
  I'll
• 37:57
  tell
• 37:57
  you.
• 37:58
  Nice
• 37:58
  debut,
• 37:59
  Craig.
• 37:59
  That's
• 38:00
  for
• 38:00
  sure.
• 38:01
  What
• 38:01
  an
• 38:01
  appearance.
• 38:02
  You
• 38:02
  got
• 38:02
  interviewed
• 38:03
  by
• 38:03
  Joe
• 38:03
  Garagiola,
• 38:04
  Jack
• 38:05
  Buck
• 38:06
  and
• 38:06
  I
• 38:06
  think
• 38:07
  Larry
• 38:07
  Jackson
• 38:08
  took
• 38:08
  you
• 38:08
  out
• 38:08
  to
• 38:08
  dinner
• 38:09
  that
• 38:09
  night.
• 38:10
  That
• 38:11
  is
• 38:11
  right.
• 38:13
  Joe
• 38:13
  Garagiola
• 38:14
  brought
• 38:14
  me
• 38:14
  up
• 38:14
  on
• 38:15
  the
• 38:15
  radio.
• 38:15
  First
• 38:15
  of
• 38:16
  all,
• 38:16
  Muesual
• 38:16
  said
• 38:17
  they
• 38:17
  were
• 38:17
  going
• 38:17
  to
• 38:17
  take
• 38:18
  Musial
• 38:18
  up
• 38:18
  for
• 38:18
  the
• 38:18
  grand
• 38:19
  slam.
• 38:19
  He
• 38:19
  said,
• 38:20
  no,
• 38:20
  no,
• 38:20
  let
• 38:21
  the
• 38:21
  kid
• 38:21
  go.
• 38:21
  Let
• 38:21
  the
• 38:22
  rookie
• 38:22
  go.
• 38:22
  Okay.
• 38:23
  So
• 38:23
  he
• 38:24
  opened
• 38:24
  the
• 38:24
  door
• 38:24
  and
• 38:25
  let
• 38:25
  me
• 38:25
  go
• 38:25
  up
• 38:25
  to
• 38:25
  do
• 38:26
  the
• 38:26
  radio
• 38:26
  interview
• 38:27
  and
• 38:27
  a
• 38:28
  Joe
• 38:29
  Garagiola.
• 38:29
  Correct.
• 38:30
  And
• 38:31
  then
• 38:31
  after
• 38:31
  that,
• 38:31
  I
• 38:31
  had
• 38:32
  nobody
• 38:32
  in
• 38:32
  St.
• 38:32
  Louis
• 38:33
  because
• 38:33
  my
• 38:33
  parents
• 38:34
  were
• 38:34
  in.
• 38:34
  Were
• 38:35
  in
• 38:35
  D.C.
• 38:37
  and
• 38:37
  so
• 38:38
  I
• 38:38
  said,
• 38:38
  well,
• 38:38
  I
• 38:39
  mean,
• 38:39
  I'm
• 38:39
  just
• 38:39
  happy
• 38:39
  I
• 38:39
  won
• 38:40
  the
• 38:40
  game
• 38:40
  and
• 38:40
  I'm
• 38:40
  happy.
• 38:41
  And
• 38:41
  Larry
• 38:42
  Jackson
• 38:42
  says,
• 38:42
  hey,
• 38:43
  nobody
• 38:44
  here
• 38:44
  with
• 38:44
  you?
• 38:44
  I
• 38:44
  said,
• 38:45
  no,
• 38:45
  not
• 38:46
  everything
• 38:46
  happened
• 38:47
  too
• 38:47
  fast.
• 38:47
  Just
• 38:47
  come
• 38:47
  with
• 38:48
  me,
• 38:48
  we'll
• 38:48
  go
• 38:48
  out
• 38:48
  for
• 38:48
  dinner.
• 38:49
  So
• 38:49
  he
• 38:49
  did
• 38:49
  that.
• 38:50
  I
• 38:50
  never
• 38:50
  forgot
• 38:51
  that.
• 38:51
  That
• 38:51
  was
• 38:51
  a,
• 38:52
  you
• 38:52
  know,
• 38:52
  a
• 38:52
  gesture
• 38:53
  on
• 38:53
  Larry
• 38:53
  Jackson's
• 38:54
  path,
• 38:55
  you
• 38:55
  know,
• 38:55
  for
• 38:56
  me.
• 38:56
  Rookie
• 38:57
  to
• 38:57
  go.
• 38:57
  And
• 38:58
  he
• 38:59
  was
• 38:59
  one
• 38:59
  of
• 38:59
  their
• 38:59
  better
• 38:59
  pitchers
• 39:00
  that
• 39:00
  year,
• 39:00
  too,
• 39:01
  so.
• 39:02
  Yep,
• 39:02
  that
• 39:02
  was
• 39:02
  a
• 39:02
  great
• 39:03
  day.
• 39:03
  What
• 39:04
  a
• 39:04
  day
• 39:04
  for
• 39:04
  Greg
• 39:05
  Anderson,
• 39:05
  folks.
• 39:06
  His
• 39:06
  major
• 39:06
  league
• 39:06
  debut.
• 39:08
  Now
• 39:08
  the
• 39:08
  Cardinals
• 39:09
  end
• 39:10
  up
• 39:10
  leaving
• 39:11
  you
• 39:11
  unprotected.
• 39:13
  And
• 39:13
  of
• 39:13
  course,
• 39:14
  the
• 39:14
  rest
• 39:15
  is
• 39:15
  history.
• 39:15
  Drafted
• 39:16
  by
• 39:16
  the
• 39:16
  New
• 39:16
  York
• 39:17
  Mets.
• 39:17
  They
• 39:17
  say
• 39:18
  that
• 39:19
  Solly
• 39:19
  Hemis
• 39:20
  may
• 39:20
  have
• 39:20
  had
• 39:21
  something
• 39:21
  to
• 39:21
  do
• 39:21
  with
• 39:21
  that
• 39:22
  because
• 39:22
  he
• 39:23
  left
• 39:23
  the
• 39:23
  Cards
• 39:24
  and
• 39:24
  was
• 39:24
  hired
• 39:24
  by
• 39:25
  the
• 39:25
  Mets.
• 39:26
  Maybe
• 39:26
  he
• 39:26
  decided
• 39:27
  to
• 39:27
  bring
• 39:27
  you
• 39:28
  over
• 39:28
  to
• 39:29
  New
• 39:29
  York.
• 39:30
  Yeah,
• 39:30
  he
• 39:31
  brought.
• 39:32
  I'm
• 39:32
  sure
• 39:32
  that's
• 39:33
  one
• 39:33
  of
• 39:33
  the
• 39:34
  factors.
• 39:34
  And
• 39:34
  he
• 39:34
  also
• 39:35
  Shook
• 39:36
  took
• 39:36
  three
• 39:36
  other
• 39:36
  guys,
• 39:38
  Bob
• 39:39
  Miller
• 39:40
  and
• 39:40
  Chris
• 39:41
  Cannizzaro
• 39:41
  and
• 39:42
  Jim
• 39:42
  Hickman.
• 39:42
  All
• 39:43
  of
• 39:43
  us
• 39:43
  were
• 39:43
  in
• 39:43
  our
• 39:44
  earlier
• 39:44
  careers.
• 39:45
  I
• 39:45
  was
• 39:45
  the
• 39:45
  youngest
• 39:46
  of
• 39:46
  the
• 39:46
  four,
• 39:47
  but
• 39:48
  we
• 39:48
  were
• 39:48
  all
• 39:49
  young
• 39:49
  compared
• 39:50
  to
• 39:50
  the
• 39:50
  rest
• 39:50
  of
• 39:51
  the
• 39:51
  draft.
• 39:51
  The
• 39:51
  teams
• 39:52
  really
• 39:52
  sent
• 39:52
  a
• 39:52
  lot
• 39:52
  of
• 39:53
  older
• 39:53
  players
• 39:53
  and
• 39:54
  the
• 39:54
  Mets
• 39:54
  took
• 39:54
  a
• 39:54
  lot
• 39:55
  of
• 39:55
  older
• 39:55
  players.
• 39:55
  Good
• 39:56
  players.
• 39:56
  They
• 39:56
  did,
• 39:57
  you
• 39:57
  know,
• 39:57
  Gil
• 39:58
  Hodges
• 39:58
  and
• 39:59
  Richie
• 39:59
  Ashburn
• 40:00
  and
• 40:00
  so
• 40:00
  forth
• 40:00
  and
• 40:01
  so
• 40:01
  on.
• 40:02
  And
• 40:03
  so
• 40:03
  I
• 40:04
  was
• 40:04
  just.
• 40:04
  I
• 40:04
  was
• 40:04
  happy
• 40:05
  to
• 40:05
  have
• 40:05
  a
• 40:05
  couple
• 40:05
  guys
• 40:06
  that
• 40:06
  I
• 40:06
  knew
• 40:06
  pretty
• 40:06
  well
• 40:07
  to
• 40:07
  come
• 40:07
  along
• 40:07
  too.
• 40:07
  Yes,
• 40:08
  it
• 40:08
  was.
• 40:08
  I
• 40:08
  think
• 40:09
  Solly
• 40:09
  was
• 40:09
  the
• 40:09
  reason.
• 40:10
  You're
• 40:10
  right.
• 40:10
  Yeah,
• 40:11
  you're
• 40:11
  right.
• 40:11
  That
• 40:12
  is
• 40:12
  probably
• 40:12
  true.
• 40:13
  Now.
• 40:14
  May
• 40:14
  12,
• 40:15
  the
• 40:15
  Mets
• 40:15
  play
• 40:15
  in
• 40:15
  the
• 40:16
  Milwaukee
• 40:16
  Braves
• 40:17
  doubleheader
• 40:18
  Polo
• 40:18
  Grounds.
• 40:19
  The
• 40:19
  first
• 40:20
  game
• 40:20
  was
• 40:20
  Roger
• 40:21
  Craig
• 40:22
  against
• 40:22
  the
• 40:23
  great
• 40:23
  Warren
• 40:23
  Spahn.
• 40:25
  Now
• 40:25
  you
• 40:25
  bet.
• 40:27
  Yeah.
• 40:27
  Yeah.
• 40:27
  Roger
• 40:28
  Craig
• 40:28
  leaves
• 40:29
  after
• 40:29
  seven
• 40:29
  innings,
• 40:30
  losing
• 40:30
  two
• 40:31
  to
• 40:31
  one.
• 40:32
  And
• 40:32
  who
• 40:32
  comes
• 40:32
  in?
• 40:33
  Craig
• 40:33
  Anderson.
• 40:34
  Right.
• 40:35
  It
• 40:35
  brings
• 40:36
  me
• 40:36
  in,
• 40:37
  I
• 40:37
  think,
• 40:37
  with
• 40:37
  the
• 40:37
  idea
• 40:38
  of
• 40:38
  just
• 40:38
  keep
• 40:38
  the
• 40:39
  score
• 40:39
  down
• 40:39
  so
• 40:40
  we
• 40:40
  have
• 40:40
  a
• 40:40
  chance.
• 40:41
  I
• 40:41
  mean,
• 40:41
  that's
• 40:41
  what
• 40:41
  I
• 40:42
  had
• 40:42
  in
• 40:42
  my
• 40:42
  mind.
• 40:42
  And
• 40:43
  yes,
• 40:43
  I
• 40:44
  pitched
• 40:44
  the
• 40:44
  eighth
• 40:44
  inning
• 40:45
  and
• 40:45
  I
• 40:45
  think
• 40:45
  I
• 40:46
  actually
• 40:46
  faced
• 40:47
  Aaron
• 40:48
  either
• 40:49
  the
• 40:49
  eighth
• 40:49
  or
• 40:49
  the
• 40:49
  ninth
• 40:50
  in
• 40:50
  that
• 40:50
  game.
• 40:50
  But
• 40:50
  I
• 40:51
  got
• 40:51
  out,
• 40:51
  I
• 40:51
  gave
• 40:52
  up
• 40:52
  a
• 40:52
  hit,
• 40:52
  I
• 40:52
  think,
• 40:53
  but
• 40:54
  in
• 40:54
  one
• 40:54
  of
• 40:54
  the
• 40:54
  innings
• 40:55
  and.
• 40:55
  But
• 40:56
  I
• 40:56
  got
• 40:56
  out
• 40:56
  of
• 40:56
  the
• 40:56
  innings
• 40:57
  in
• 40:57
  the.
• 40:58
  Of
• 40:58
  course
• 40:59
  I
• 40:59
  had
• 40:59
  a
• 40:59
  big.
• 40:59
  Oh,
• 41:00
  wait
• 41:00
  a
• 41:00
  minute,
• 41:00
  we
• 41:01
  back
• 41:01
  up.
• 41:01
  We
• 41:02
  forgot.
• 41:02
  Did
• 41:02
  I
• 41:02
  tell
• 41:03
  you
• 41:03
  he
• 41:03
  grand
• 41:03
  slammed?
• 41:04
  Did
• 41:04
  I
• 41:05
  tell
• 41:05
  you
• 41:05
  it's
• 41:05
  usually
• 41:05
  he
• 41:06
  had
• 41:06
  a
• 41:06
  grand
• 41:06
  slam
• 41:06
  for
• 41:06
  me
• 41:07
  in
• 41:07
  the
• 41:07
  seventh,
• 41:08
  right.
• 41:08
  And
• 41:09
  then
• 41:09
  I
• 41:09
  pitched
• 41:09
  the
• 41:09
  eighth
• 41:10
  and
• 41:10
  ninth
• 41:10
  and
• 41:11
  hey,
• 41:11
  four
• 41:12
  run,
• 41:12
  four
• 41:12
  or
• 41:12
  five
• 41:13
  run
• 41:13
  lead.
• 41:13
  I
• 41:14
  was,
• 41:14
  yeah,
• 41:14
  I
• 41:15
  won
• 41:15
  the
• 41:15
  game.
• 41:15
  I
• 41:15
  just,
• 41:15
  I
• 41:16
  pitched
• 41:16
  two
• 41:16
  good
• 41:16
  innings
• 41:17
  after
• 41:17
  that
• 41:17
  and
• 41:18
  that
• 41:18
  was
• 41:18
  my
• 41:18
  first
• 41:19
  win
• 41:19
  on
• 41:19
  my
• 41:19
  first
• 41:19
  day
• 41:20
  and
• 41:20
  my
• 41:20
  first
• 41:20
  hit
• 41:21
  and
• 41:21
  everything.
• 41:22
  Yeah,
• 41:23
  wow.
• 41:23
  Wow.
• 41:24
  Yeah,
• 41:25
  you're
• 41:25
  right.
• 41:26
  The
• 41:26
  game
• 41:26
  in
• 41:26
  the
• 41:26
  Polo
• 41:27
  Grounds.
• 41:27
  Casey
• 41:29
  brings
• 41:29
  up
• 41:30
  Hobie
• 41:30
  Landreth
• 41:31
  as
• 41:31
  a
• 41:31
  pinch
• 41:32
  hitter,
• 41:32
  folks.
• 41:32
  He
• 41:33
  was
• 41:33
  the
• 41:33
  number
• 41:33
  one
• 41:34
  draft
• 41:34
  pick
• 41:34
  for
• 41:34
  the
• 41:35
  Mets
• 41:36
  in
• 41:36
  the
• 41:36
  expansion
• 41:37
  draft.
• 41:37
  As
• 41:38
  Casey
• 41:38
  said,
• 41:39
  you
• 41:40
  got
• 41:40
  to
• 41:40
  have
• 41:40
  a
• 41:40
  catcher
• 41:41
  or
• 41:41
  else
• 41:41
  you're
• 41:42
  going
• 41:42
  to
• 41:42
  have
• 41:42
  a
• 41:42
  lot
• 41:42
  of
• 41:42
  pass
• 41:43
  balls.
• 41:43
  That's
• 41:44
  right.
• 41:46
  Yeah,
• 41:46
  you're
• 41:47
  right.
• 41:47
  He
• 41:47
  brought
• 41:48
  Hobie
• 41:48
  up
• 41:48
  against
• 41:49
  Spawn.
• 41:50
  Right.
• 41:50
  And
• 41:50
  I
• 41:50
  was
• 41:51
  not
• 41:51
  aware
• 41:51
  of
• 41:52
  any
• 41:52
  reason
• 41:52
  why
• 41:53
  he
• 41:53
  did
• 41:53
  that.
• 41:54
  I
• 41:54
  just
• 41:54
  thought
• 41:54
  didn't.
• 41:55
  It
• 41:55
  just
• 41:56
  didn't
• 41:56
  occur,
• 41:56
  you
• 41:56
  know,
• 41:56
  I
• 41:57
  was
• 41:57
  surprised.
• 41:58
  We
• 41:58
  had
• 41:58
  a
• 41:58
  runner
• 41:59
  on
• 41:59
  first,
• 41:59
  the
• 42:00
  score
• 42:00
  was
• 42:00
  one
• 42:01
  to
• 42:01
  nothing
• 42:01
  and
• 42:03
  we
• 42:03
  had
• 42:03
  a
• 42:03
  walk,
• 42:04
  one
• 42:04
  out
• 42:04
  and
• 42:04
  a
• 42:04
  runner
• 42:05
  on
• 42:05
  first.
• 42:05
  And
• 42:05
  Hobie
• 42:06
  goes
• 42:06
  in
• 42:06
  and
• 42:06
  hits
• 42:07
  for
• 42:07
  a
• 42:08
  right
• 42:08
  handed
• 42:08
  hitter.
• 42:09
  And
• 42:10
  I
• 42:10
  said,
• 42:10
  well,
• 42:11
  I
• 42:11
  guess
• 42:11
  Casey
• 42:12
  knows
• 42:12
  what
• 42:12
  he's
• 42:13
  Doing.
• 42:13
  I'm.
• 42:13
  I
• 42:14
  hope
• 42:14
  he.
• 42:14
  Boom.
• 42:15
  Yeah.
• 42:16
  Home
• 42:16
  run,
• 42:17
  home
• 42:17
  run.
• 42:17
  Game's
• 42:18
  over.
• 42:18
  I
• 42:18
  get
• 42:19
  my
• 42:19
  first
• 42:19
  win.
• 42:21
  I
• 42:21
  mean,
• 42:22
  the
• 42:22
  first,
• 42:22
  first
• 42:22
  win
• 42:23
  in
• 42:23
  the
• 42:23
  first
• 42:23
  game
• 42:24
  of
• 42:24
  the
• 42:24
  double
• 42:24
  header.
• 42:24
  I
• 42:25
  wasn't
• 42:25
  my
• 42:26
  first
• 42:26
  win.
• 42:26
  I
• 42:26
  think
• 42:26
  that
• 42:27
  was
• 42:27
  my
• 42:27
  second
• 42:27
  win.
• 42:29
  Okay.
• 42:29
  Yeah,
• 42:30
  it
• 42:30
  was.
• 42:30
  That
• 42:30
  was
• 42:31
  my
• 42:31
  second
• 42:31
  win.
• 42:32
  And
• 42:32
  so.
• 42:32
  Okay,
• 42:33
  I'm
• 42:33
  happy
• 42:33
  after
• 42:34
  that
• 42:34
  game.
• 42:34
  Let's
• 42:34
  get
• 42:35
  the
• 42:35
  next
• 42:35
  game
• 42:35
  going
• 42:36
  right
• 42:38
  now.
• 42:40
  Yeah,
• 42:40
  the
• 42:40
  next
• 42:41
  game
• 42:41
  is
• 42:42
  7.
• 42:43
  7.
• 42:44
  I
• 42:44
  come
• 42:44
  in
• 42:44
  the
• 42:45
  game
• 42:45
  that's
• 42:45
  a
• 42:45
  little
• 42:45
  different
• 42:45
  than
• 42:46
  the
• 42:46
  one
• 42:46
  nothing
• 42:46
  game.
• 42:47
  Yeah,
• 42:48
  seven,
• 42:48
  seven.
• 42:49
  So
• 42:49
  I
• 42:49
  pitched.
• 42:50
  I
• 42:50
  think
• 42:50
  I
• 42:51
  pitched
• 42:51
  an
• 42:51
  inning
• 42:51
  and
• 42:51
  two
• 42:52
  thirds
• 42:52
  or
• 42:52
  something
• 42:52
  like
• 42:53
  that.
• 42:53
  And
• 42:56
  so
• 42:57
  the
• 42:57
  bottom
• 42:57
  of
• 42:57
  the
• 42:58
  ninth
• 42:58
  inning
• 42:58
  came
• 42:59
  up
• 42:59
  and
• 43:00
  Gil
• 43:01
  Hodges
• 43:01
  came
• 43:01
  up
• 43:02
  and
• 43:03
  hit
• 43:03
  a
• 43:03
  home
• 43:04
  run
• 43:05
  to
• 43:05
  win
• 43:05
  the
• 43:06
  game.
• 43:06
  That
• 43:06
  was.
• 43:08
  He
• 43:08
  came
• 43:08
  up
• 43:08
  first
• 43:08
  or
• 43:09
  second
• 43:09
  hitter
• 43:09
  in
• 43:09
  the
• 43:09
  inning
• 43:10
  and
• 43:10
  hit
• 43:10
  a
• 43:10
  home
• 43:10
  run
• 43:11
  into
• 43:11
  the
• 43:11
  right
• 43:11
  field,
• 43:12
  right
• 43:12
  center
• 43:13
  field
• 43:13
  stands
• 43:13
  and,
• 43:15
  you
• 43:15
  know,
• 43:15
  not
• 43:15
  a
• 43:15
  gigantic
• 43:16
  hit.
• 43:16
  But.
• 43:17
  But
• 43:18
  hey,
• 43:19
  I
• 43:19
  never
• 43:20
  thought
• 43:20
  I'd
• 43:20
  win
• 43:20
  a
• 43:20
  double
• 43:21
  header
• 43:21
  that
• 43:21
  quick
• 43:21
  in
• 43:21
  my
• 43:22
  young
• 43:22
  career.
• 43:23
  But
• 43:23
  that
• 43:23
  was
• 43:23
  a
• 43:24
  great
• 43:24
  thrill,
• 43:24
  a
• 43:25
  great,
• 43:25
  great
• 43:25
  story.
• 43:26
  Craig
• 43:27
  Anderson
• 43:27
  wins
• 43:28
  both
• 43:28
  games
• 43:29
  of
• 43:29
  the
• 43:29
  double
• 43:30
  header
• 43:30
  for
• 43:31
  the
• 43:31
  New
• 43:31
  York
• 43:31
  Mets.
• 43:33
  What
• 43:33
  an
• 43:34
  amazing
• 43:34
  story.
• 43:36
  I
• 43:36
  never
• 43:36
  thought
• 43:37
  that
• 43:37
  the
• 43:37
  two
• 43:38
  wins
• 43:39
  would
• 43:40
  end
• 43:40
  up
• 43:40
  being
• 43:40
  something
• 43:41
  that
• 43:41
  I
• 43:41
  would
• 43:41
  be
• 43:42
  holding
• 43:42
  on
• 43:42
  my
• 43:43
  record
• 43:43
  for
• 43:43
  the
• 43:43
  rest
• 43:44
  of,
• 43:44
  you
• 43:44
  know,
• 43:45
  winning
• 43:45
  the
• 43:46
  first
• 43:46
  double
• 43:46
  header
• 43:47
  the
• 43:47
  Mets
• 43:47
  ever
• 43:47
  won.
• 43:48
  I
• 43:48
  sign
• 43:48
  it
• 43:48
  on
• 43:49
  a
• 43:49
  ball
• 43:49
  now
• 43:49
  when
• 43:49
  I
• 43:50
  sign
• 43:50
  it,
• 43:50
  and
• 43:51
  it
• 43:51
  is.
• 43:51
  I
• 43:51
  look
• 43:51
  like
• 43:52
  on
• 43:52
  that.
• 43:52
  Yeah,
• 43:52
  that
• 43:53
  was
• 43:53
  something
• 43:53
  that.
• 43:53
  Not
• 43:54
  now.
• 43:54
  You
• 43:55
  don't
• 43:55
  hardly
• 43:55
  ever
• 43:56
  get
• 43:56
  a
• 43:56
  double
• 43:56
  header
• 43:57
  win
• 43:57
  anymore
• 43:57
  because
• 43:58
  they
• 43:58
  don't
• 43:58
  play
• 43:58
  double
• 43:58
  headers.
• 43:59
  No.
• 44:00
  Yeah,
• 44:00
  yeah.
• 44:01
  These
• 44:01
  guys
• 44:01
  don't
• 44:02
  want
• 44:02
  to
• 44:02
  play
• 44:02
  two
• 44:02
  games
• 44:03
  in
• 44:03
  one
• 44:03
  day.
• 44:04
  You
• 44:05
  got
• 44:05
  it,
• 44:05
  you
• 44:05
  got
• 44:05
  it.
• 44:06
  So
• 44:06
  it
• 44:07
  was
• 44:07
  a
• 44:07
  show.
• 44:07
  I
• 44:07
  came
• 44:07
  out
• 44:08
  of
• 44:08
  the
• 44:08
  dugout
• 44:08
  and
• 44:09
  I
• 44:09
  said,
• 44:09
  I'm
• 44:09
  gonna.
• 44:10
  My
• 44:10
  wife
• 44:10
  was
• 44:10
  sitting
• 44:11
  about
• 44:11
  10,
• 44:11
  10
• 44:11
  rows
• 44:12
  back
• 44:12
  behind
• 44:12
  the
• 44:13
  dugout.
• 44:13
  I
• 44:14
  turned
• 44:14
  around
• 44:14
  and
• 44:14
  was
• 44:14
  gonna
• 44:15
  flash
• 44:15
  two
• 44:16
  fingers
• 44:16
  at
• 44:16
  her.
• 44:17
  Yeah.
• 44:17
  And
• 44:17
  she.
• 44:17
  And
• 44:18
  I
• 44:18
  looked
• 44:18
  at
• 44:18
  her
• 44:18
  and
• 44:18
  she
• 44:19
  already
• 44:19
  had
• 44:19
  the
• 44:19
  two
• 44:19
  fingers
• 44:20
  up
• 44:20
  in
• 44:20
  the
• 44:20
  air.
• 44:23
  Yeah,
• 44:24
  already
• 44:24
  done.
• 44:25
  So,
• 44:25
  yeah,
• 44:25
  it
• 44:25
  was
• 44:26
  a
• 44:26
  Sabbath,
• 44:26
  a
• 44:26
  special
• 44:26
  day.
• 44:27
  It
• 44:27
  really
• 44:27
  was.
• 44:28
  Now
• 44:28
  after
• 44:28
  that,
• 44:29
  the
• 44:30
  Mets
• 44:30
  proceeded
• 44:31
  to
• 44:31
  lose
• 44:31
  17
• 44:32
  games
• 44:33
  in
• 44:33
  a
• 44:33
  row
• 44:33
  after
• 44:34
  that.
• 44:34
  And
• 44:35
  for
• 44:36
  the
• 44:36
  remainder
• 44:36
  of
• 44:36
  the
• 44:37
  year,
• 44:37
  you
• 44:38
  lost
• 44:39
  16
• 44:39
  decisions
• 44:40
  in
• 44:40
  a
• 44:40
  row.
• 44:41
  And
• 44:42
  that's
• 44:42
  just
• 44:42
  the.
• 44:44
  Really
• 44:45
  the
• 44:45
  story
• 44:45
  of
• 44:45
  the
• 44:46
  62
• 44:46
  Mets
• 44:47
  and
• 44:47
  the
• 44:48
  futility
• 44:49
  that
• 44:49
  these
• 44:49
  guys
• 44:50
  had
• 44:50
  to
• 44:50
  put
• 44:50
  up
• 44:51
  with.
• 44:51
  And
• 44:52
  do
• 44:52
  you
• 44:53
  remember
• 44:53
  the
• 44:53
  rest
• 44:53
  of
• 44:54
  the
• 44:54
  year,
• 44:54
  Craig,
• 44:54
  and
• 44:55
  how
• 44:55
  it
• 44:55
  was?
• 44:57
  Yes.
• 44:59
  I
• 44:59
  want
• 44:59
  to
• 44:59
  say
• 45:00
  one
• 45:00
  thing,
• 45:00
  though.
• 45:01
  Yes.
• 45:01
  As
• 45:02
  tough
• 45:02
  as
• 45:02
  it
• 45:02
  was
• 45:02
  and
• 45:03
  the
• 45:03
  losses
• 45:03
  that
• 45:03
  happened,
• 45:05
  the
• 45:05
  players
• 45:05
  on
• 45:05
  that
• 45:06
  team
• 45:06
  never
• 45:07
  quit
• 45:08
  trying
• 45:08
  to
• 45:08
  win
• 45:08
  games.
• 45:09
  And
• 45:09
  I.
• 45:09
  And
• 45:09
  I
• 45:10
  would
• 45:10
  not
• 45:10
  I
• 45:10
  would
• 45:10
  have
• 45:10
  told
• 45:11
  you
• 45:11
  that
• 45:11
  if
• 45:11
  I
• 45:11
  thought
• 45:12
  that,
• 45:12
  but
• 45:12
  they
• 45:12
  didn't.
• 45:13
  We
• 45:13
  had
• 45:13
  the
• 45:14
  right
• 45:14
  veteran
• 45:15
  players
• 45:15
  there
• 45:15
  and
• 45:15
  we
• 45:16
  played
• 45:16
  hard
• 45:17
  and
• 45:17
  we
• 45:17
  just
• 45:17
  got
• 45:18
  a
• 45:18
  lot
• 45:18
  of
• 45:18
  bad
• 45:18
  breaks
• 45:19
  when
• 45:19
  we
• 45:19
  had
• 45:19
  a
• 45:19
  chance
• 45:19
  to
• 45:20
  win
• 45:20
  some
• 45:20
  games.
• 45:20
  But
• 45:21
  we,
• 45:21
  but,
• 45:22
  but,
• 45:22
  you
• 45:22
  know,
• 45:23
  I,
• 45:23
  I
• 45:24
  was
• 45:24
  glad
• 45:24
  when
• 45:25
  the
• 45:25
  season
• 45:25
  was
• 45:25
  over
• 45:27
  and,
• 45:27
  you
• 45:28
  know,
• 45:28
  move
• 45:28
  on
• 45:28
  to
• 45:29
  the
• 45:29
  next
• 45:29
  year
• 45:29
  and
• 45:29
  then
• 45:29
  move
• 45:30
  on
• 45:30
  to.
• 45:30
  In
• 45:30
  my
• 45:30
  career.
• 45:31
  But.
• 45:34
  I
• 45:34
  will
• 45:34
  say
• 45:34
  the
• 45:34
  players
• 45:35
  never
• 45:36
  quit
• 45:36
  trying
• 45:37
  to
• 45:37
  win
• 45:37
  games,
• 45:38
  and
• 45:39
  I
• 45:39
  should
• 45:39
  have
• 45:39
  won.
• 45:40
  I
• 45:40
  say
• 45:40
  this.
• 45:41
  I
• 45:41
  started
• 45:42
  about,
• 45:43
  oh,
• 45:44
  nine
• 45:44
  or
• 45:44
  ten
• 45:44
  games
• 45:45
  that
• 45:45
  year,
• 45:45
  and
• 45:45
  I
• 45:46
  had
• 45:46
  some
• 45:46
  victories
• 45:47
  going
• 45:47
  for
• 45:48
  me,
• 45:49
  and
• 45:50
  at
• 45:50
  least
• 45:50
  three
• 45:50
  games
• 45:51
  I
• 45:51
  could
• 45:51
  have
• 45:51
  won,
• 45:52
  but
• 45:52
  the
• 45:53
  relievers
• 45:53
  that
• 45:53
  they
• 45:53
  brought
• 45:54
  in
• 45:54
  didn't
• 45:55
  hold
• 45:55
  it
• 45:55
  right.
• 45:56
  So
• 45:56
  that's.
• 45:56
  That's
• 45:57
  baseball.
• 45:57
  I
• 45:57
  had
• 45:58
  a
• 45:58
  chance
• 45:58
  to
• 45:58
  win
• 45:58
  three
• 45:58
  games
• 45:59
  and
• 45:59
  then
• 46:00
  I
• 46:00
  really
• 46:00
  blew
• 46:01
  one
• 46:01
  myself
• 46:02
  in
• 46:02
  Chicago.
• 46:03
  I
• 46:04
  had
• 46:04
  four
• 46:05
  to
• 46:05
  one.
• 46:05
  Richie
• 46:05
  Ashburn
• 46:06
  had
• 46:06
  hit
• 46:06
  a
• 46:06
  home
• 46:06
  run,
• 46:07
  which
• 46:07
  he
• 46:07
  was
• 46:07
  surprised
• 46:08
  and
• 46:08
  happy
• 46:08
  to
• 46:09
  do
• 46:09
  that.
• 46:09
  We're
• 46:10
  head
• 46:10
  four
• 46:10
  one,
• 46:11
  and
• 46:11
  there's
• 46:12
  two
• 46:12
  outs
• 46:12
  in
• 46:13
  the
• 46:13
  bottom
• 46:13
  of
• 46:13
  the
• 46:14
  ninth,
• 46:14
  and
• 46:15
  ground
• 46:15
  ball
• 46:16
  hit
• 46:16
  the
• 46:16
  Rod
• 46:16
  Kinneil
• 46:17
  third,
• 46:17
  and
• 46:18
  the
• 46:18
  game's
• 46:18
  over.
• 46:19
  He
• 46:19
  boots
• 46:19
  the
• 46:20
  ball.
• 46:20
  Yeah.
• 46:21
  I
• 46:21
  walk
• 46:21
  the
• 46:22
  next
• 46:22
  guy
• 46:22
  and
• 46:22
  Ernie
• 46:23
  Banks
• 46:23
  comes
• 46:23
  up
• 46:23
  and
• 46:23
  I
• 46:24
  make
• 46:24
  a
• 46:24
  bad
• 46:24
  pitch
• 46:24
  to
• 46:25
  him
• 46:25
  and
• 46:25
  he
• 46:25
  ties
• 46:25
  the
• 46:25
  game.
• 46:26
  So
• 46:27
  that
• 46:27
  was
• 46:27
  my
• 46:27
  fault.
• 46:28
  But
• 46:28
  that
• 46:29
  error
• 46:29
  cost
• 46:29
  me
• 46:30
  a
• 46:30
  victory.
• 46:30
  I
• 46:31
  would
• 46:31
  have
• 46:31
  had
• 46:31
  one
• 46:31
  right
• 46:32
  there.
• 46:32
  That
• 46:32
  was
• 46:32
  the
• 46:33
  last
• 46:33
  season.
• 46:33
  One
• 46:33
  of
• 46:34
  those
• 46:34
  near
• 46:34
  the
• 46:34
  end
• 46:34
  of
• 46:34
  the
• 46:34
  season,
• 46:35
  that
• 46:35
  game.
• 46:36
  That's
• 46:37
  baseball.
• 46:37
  That's
• 46:38
  baseball.
• 46:38
  That's
• 46:38
  it.
• 46:39
  Hot
• 46:39
  Rod
• 46:40
  Kinneil,
• 46:40
  folks.
• 46:41
  There's
• 46:41
  another
• 46:41
  name
• 46:41
  for
• 46:42
  you.
• 46:42
  Rod
• 46:42
  kinneil
• 46:43
  for
• 46:43
  the
• 46:43
  62
• 46:44
  Mets.
• 46:44
  And
• 46:45
  like
• 46:45
  you
• 46:45
  said,
• 46:45
  Craig,
• 46:48
  the
• 46:48
  baseball
• 46:48
  gods
• 46:49
  weren't
• 46:49
  kind
• 46:50
  to
• 46:50
  you.
• 46:50
  They
• 46:50
  weren't
• 46:51
  kind
• 46:51
  to
• 46:51
  the
• 46:51
  Mets
• 46:52
  for
• 46:52
  the
• 46:52
  rest
• 46:52
  of
• 46:53
  the
• 46:53
  year.
• 46:53
  And
• 46:54
  as
• 46:54
  you
• 46:54
  said,
• 46:55
  that's
• 46:56
  the
• 46:56
  game
• 46:56
  of
• 46:56
  baseball,
• 46:58
  and
• 46:58
  that's
• 46:59
  the
• 46:59
  way
• 46:59
  it
• 46:59
  goes.
• 47:00
  We're
• 47:00
  speaking
• 47:00
  with
• 47:01
  Craig
• 47:01
  Anderson
• 47:02
  Tonight.
• 47:03
  1962,
• 47:04
  met
• 47:04
  on
• 47:04
  Sports
• 47:05
  Talk
• 47:05
  New
• 47:05
  York.
• 47:06
  Now,
• 47:06
  some
• 47:07
  great
• 47:07
  names
• 47:09
  came
• 47:09
  along
• 47:09
  with
• 47:10
  the
• 47:10
  62
• 47:11
  Mets.
• 47:12
  Craig,
• 47:13
  Casey
• 47:14
  Stangle,
• 47:15
  the
• 47:15
  hit.
• 47:15
  The
• 47:16
  hitting
• 47:16
  coach
• 47:16
  was
• 47:16
  Rogers
• 47:17
  Hornsby.
• 47:18
  The
• 47:18
  pitching
• 47:19
  coach
• 47:19
  was
• 47:20
  another
• 47:20
  hall
• 47:20
  of
• 47:21
  Famer,
• 47:21
  Red
• 47:21
  Ruffing.
• 47:23
  Right.
• 47:23
  Give
• 47:23
  it.
• 47:24
  Give
• 47:24
  us
• 47:24
  a
• 47:25
  story
• 47:25
  or
• 47:25
  two
• 47:26
  about
• 47:26
  one
• 47:26
  of
• 47:26
  those
• 47:27
  guys.
• 47:28
  I
• 47:28
  got
• 47:28
  one
• 47:28
  for
• 47:29
  every
• 47:29
  one
• 47:29
  of
• 47:29
  them,
• 47:29
  almost.
• 47:30
  All
• 47:30
  right,
• 47:30
  let's
• 47:31
  go
• 47:31
  with
• 47:32
  Casey
• 47:32
  because
• 47:34
  Casey
• 47:35
  actually
• 47:36
  couldn't
• 47:36
  have
• 47:36
  been.
• 47:37
  He's
• 47:37
  the
• 47:37
  best
• 47:37
  guy
• 47:38
  that
• 47:38
  ever
• 47:38
  could
• 47:38
  have
• 47:39
  handled
• 47:39
  a
• 47:39
  team
• 47:40
  like
• 47:40
  that,
• 47:40
  as
• 47:40
  successful
• 47:41
  as
• 47:41
  a
• 47:41
  manager
• 47:42
  he
• 47:42
  was.
• 47:43
  When
• 47:43
  we
• 47:43
  started
• 47:44
  to
• 47:44
  lose
• 47:44
  and
• 47:44
  we
• 47:45
  were
• 47:45
  suffering
• 47:45
  through
• 47:46
  all
• 47:46
  the
• 47:46
  tough
• 47:47
  times,
• 47:48
  he
• 47:48
  managed
• 47:49
  to
• 47:49
  protect
• 47:49
  us
• 47:50
  from
• 47:50
  the
• 47:50
  press
• 47:52
  in
• 47:52
  his
• 47:52
  own
• 47:53
  way.
• 47:53
  I
• 47:53
  mean,
• 47:53
  he
• 47:53
  was
• 47:53
  happy
• 47:54
  to
• 47:54
  do
• 47:54
  it
• 47:54
  because
• 47:54
  he
• 47:54
  Loved
• 47:55
  to
• 47:55
  talk
• 47:55
  to
• 47:55
  the
• 47:55
  press,
• 47:56
  and
• 47:56
  he'd
• 47:57
  bring
• 47:57
  the
• 47:57
  press
• 47:57
  into
• 47:57
  his
• 47:58
  office
• 47:58
  in
• 47:59
  the
• 47:59
  Polo
• 47:59
  Grounds,
• 48:00
  and
• 48:00
  his
• 48:00
  office
• 48:00
  was
• 48:01
  upstairs
• 48:02
  from
• 48:02
  us,
• 48:02
  and
• 48:02
  we're
• 48:03
  dressing
• 48:03
  down
• 48:03
  in
• 48:04
  the
• 48:04
  lower
• 48:04
  part.
• 48:05
  And
• 48:05
  every
• 48:05
  game
• 48:06
  that.
• 48:06
  Every
• 48:06
  game
• 48:07
  where,
• 48:07
  you
• 48:07
  know,
• 48:08
  he
• 48:08
  really
• 48:08
  just
• 48:09
  thought
• 48:09
  it
• 48:10
  was
• 48:10
  a
• 48:10
  tough
• 48:10
  day.
• 48:11
  He.
• 48:11
  He
• 48:11
  made
• 48:12
  sure
• 48:12
  those
• 48:13
  press
• 48:13
  people
• 48:14
  stayed
• 48:14
  with
• 48:14
  him.
• 48:15
  And
• 48:16
  I
• 48:16
  never
• 48:16
  thought
• 48:16
  about
• 48:16
  that
• 48:17
  after
• 48:17
  the
• 48:17
  season
• 48:17
  was
• 48:18
  over
• 48:18
  and
• 48:18
  the
• 48:18
  players
• 48:19
  mentioned
• 48:19
  it
• 48:20
  because
• 48:20
  you
• 48:20
  have
• 48:21
  enough.
• 48:22
  You're.
• 48:22
  You're
• 48:23
  upset
• 48:23
  enough
• 48:23
  as
• 48:23
  it
• 48:23
  was
• 48:24
  when
• 48:24
  you
• 48:24
  lose
• 48:24
  a
• 48:24
  game.
• 48:25
  When
• 48:25
  we
• 48:25
  won
• 48:25
  a
• 48:25
  game,
• 48:25
  he
• 48:26
  was
• 48:26
  fine.
• 48:26
  He'd
• 48:26
  come
• 48:26
  down
• 48:26
  to
• 48:27
  the
• 48:27
  clubhouse
• 48:27
  and
• 48:28
  talk
• 48:28
  to
• 48:28
  us
• 48:28
  and
• 48:28
  things
• 48:28
  like
• 48:29
  that.
• 48:29
  Yeah,
• 48:30
  he
• 48:30
  was
• 48:30
  good.
• 48:30
  He.
• 48:30
  He
• 48:31
  was
• 48:31
  good.
• 48:32
  Red
• 48:33
  Ruffing
• 48:34
  was
• 48:34
  the
• 48:34
  pitching
• 48:35
  coach.
• 48:35
  And
• 48:36
  he
• 48:36
  would
• 48:36
  be
• 48:37
  out
• 48:37
  in
• 48:37
  the
• 48:37
  bullpen
• 48:38
  with
• 48:38
  us.
• 48:39
  When
• 48:39
  I
• 48:39
  was
• 48:39
  in
• 48:40
  the
• 48:40
  bullpen
• 48:40
  most
• 48:40
  of
• 48:41
  the
• 48:41
  time,
• 48:42
  Casey
• 48:42
  would
• 48:43
  call,
• 48:43
  let's
• 48:44
  call.
• 48:44
  In
• 48:44
  the
• 48:44
  middle
• 48:44
  of
• 48:45
  the
• 48:45
  season.
• 48:45
  We
• 48:45
  played
• 48:46
  maybe
• 48:46
  50
• 48:46
  games,
• 48:48
  maybe
• 48:48
  more.
• 48:49
  He
• 48:49
  called
• 48:49
  down
• 48:50
  the.
• 48:50
  Red
• 48:50
  and
• 48:50
  said,
• 48:51
  you
• 48:51
  know,
• 48:51
  there
• 48:52
  was
• 48:52
  a
• 48:52
  situation
• 48:52
  where
• 48:53
  we
• 48:53
  may
• 48:53
  have
• 48:53
  to
• 48:53
  get
• 48:54
  a
• 48:54
  pitcher
• 48:54
  into
• 48:54
  the
• 48:54
  game.
• 48:55
  So
• 48:55
  he'll
• 48:56
  call
• 48:56
  down.
• 48:56
  He
• 48:56
  says,
• 48:57
  red,
• 48:58
  who
• 48:59
  you
• 48:59
  got
• 48:59
  down
• 48:59
  there?
• 48:59
  Now,
• 49:00
  this
• 49:00
  is
• 49:00
  halfway
• 49:00
  through
• 49:00
  the
• 49:01
  season.
• 49:02
  Halfway
• 49:02
  through
• 49:03
  the
• 49:03
  season.
• 49:04
  And
• 49:04
  here
• 49:04
  at.
• 49:05
  Red
• 49:05
  used
• 49:05
  to
• 49:05
  laugh.
• 49:05
  He
• 49:06
  said
• 49:06
  I
• 49:06
  had
• 49:06
  to
• 49:06
  name.
• 49:07
  He
• 49:07
  named
• 49:07
  every
• 49:08
  player
• 49:09
  Anderson
• 49:10
  and
• 49:10
  Miller
• 49:11
  and
• 49:11
  Onward
• 49:12
  and
• 49:12
  upward.
• 49:13
  Yeah.
• 49:13
  And
• 49:14
  then
• 49:14
  Casey
• 49:15
  would
• 49:15
  say,
• 49:16
  give
• 49:16
  me
• 49:16
  a
• 49:17
  right
• 49:17
  hander.
• 49:18
  It
• 49:19
  doesn't.
• 49:19
  You
• 49:19
  pick
• 49:20
  it.
• 49:20
  Give
• 49:20
  me
• 49:20
  a
• 49:21
  right
• 49:21
  hander.
• 49:21
  This
• 49:22
  is
• 49:22
  what
• 49:22
  Red
• 49:22
  told
• 49:22
  us.
• 49:23
  So
• 49:23
  I
• 49:23
  can
• 49:23
  imagine
• 49:24
  he
• 49:24
  had
• 49:24
  a
• 49:24
  heck
• 49:25
  of
• 49:25
  a
• 49:25
  year
• 49:25
  with
• 49:25
  that.
• 49:25
  But
• 49:27
  he
• 49:27
  liked
• 49:27
  me,
• 49:28
  so
• 49:28
  he
• 49:29
  called
• 49:29
  on
• 49:29
  me
• 49:29
  quite
• 49:30
  a
• 49:30
  bit.
• 49:30
  But
• 49:30
  Casey
• 49:30
  did
• 49:31
  ask
• 49:31
  for
• 49:31
  me
• 49:31
  sometimes.
• 49:32
  I
• 49:32
  know
• 49:32
  that.
• 49:32
  And
• 49:32
  he.
• 49:33
  And
• 49:33
  we
• 49:33
  had
• 49:34
  Ken
• 49:34
  McKenzie,
• 49:35
  who
• 49:35
  had
• 49:35
  a
• 49:35
  winning
• 49:35
  record,
• 49:36
  the
• 49:36
  only
• 49:36
  picture
• 49:36
  with
• 49:37
  a
• 49:37
  winning
• 49:37
  record
• 49:38
  from
• 49:38
  Yale.
• 49:39
  And
• 49:40
  he.
• 49:40
  He
• 49:40
  did
• 49:40
  a
• 49:40
  good
• 49:41
  job.
• 49:42
  And
• 49:42
  so
• 49:43
  anyway,
• 49:43
  that
• 49:43
  was
• 49:44
  one
• 49:44
  thing.
• 49:44
  Casey,
• 49:46
  he.
• 49:46
  He
• 49:46
  would
• 49:47
  make
• 49:47
  him.
• 49:47
  He
• 49:47
  would
• 49:48
  ask
• 49:48
  Red
• 49:48
  to
• 49:48
  name
• 49:49
  all
• 49:49
  the
• 49:49
  pitchers
• 49:49
  in
• 49:49
  there,
• 49:51
  and
• 49:51
  then
• 49:51
  he'd
• 49:51
  say,
• 49:51
  give
• 49:52
  me
• 49:52
  a
• 49:52
  right.
• 49:52
  Give
• 49:52
  me
• 49:52
  a
• 49:52
  right
• 49:53
  hander.
• 49:53
  You
• 49:53
  pick
• 49:53
  it
• 49:53
  up.
• 49:54
  Yeah,
• 49:54
  there
• 49:54
  we
• 49:55
  go.
• 49:56
  All
• 49:56
  right.
• 49:56
  That's
• 49:56
  great.
• 49:57
  Who
• 49:57
  else?
• 49:57
  You
• 49:57
  mentioned
• 49:58
  somebody
• 49:58
  else.
• 49:59
  Who?
• 50:00
  The
• 50:00
  great.
• 50:00
  One
• 50:00
  of
• 50:01
  the
• 50:01
  greatest
• 50:01
  hitters
• 50:02
  in
• 50:02
  the
• 50:02
  history
• 50:02
  of
• 50:03
  Major
• 50:03
  League
• 50:03
  Baseball.
• 50:04
  Yeah,
• 50:04
  The
• 50:04
  Raja.
• 50:05
  Rogers
• 50:05
  Hornsby.
• 50:06
  Yeah.
• 50:07
  I
• 50:08
  did
• 50:08
  not
• 50:08
  have
• 50:08
  too
• 50:08
  much
• 50:09
  contact
• 50:09
  with
• 50:09
  him,
• 50:09
  but
• 50:10
  he
• 50:10
  was
• 50:10
  around.
• 50:10
  He
• 50:10
  was
• 50:10
  very
• 50:11
  friendly.
• 50:11
  I
• 50:12
  wish
• 50:12
  I'd
• 50:12
  have
• 50:12
  gotten
• 50:12
  his
• 50:12
  autograph
• 50:13
  because.
• 50:14
  Oh,
• 50:14
  yeah.
• 50:15
  Every
• 50:15
  time.
• 50:15
  Do
• 50:15
  you
• 50:16
  get
• 50:16
  his
• 50:16
  autograph?
• 50:16
  I
• 50:17
  didn't
• 50:17
  get
• 50:17
  it.
• 50:17
  I
• 50:17
  didn't
• 50:17
  get
• 50:18
  it.
• 50:18
  He
• 50:18
  didn't
• 50:18
  sign
• 50:18
  the
• 50:19
  team
• 50:19
  ball.
• 50:20
  But
• 50:21
  anyway,
• 50:21
  yeah,
• 50:22
  he
• 50:22
  was
• 50:22
  around.
• 50:22
  The
• 50:23
  hitters
• 50:23
  liked
• 50:23
  him.
• 50:24
  And
• 50:25
  he
• 50:26
  was
• 50:26
  kind
• 50:26
  of
• 50:26
  like
• 50:26
  in
• 50:27
  the
• 50:27
  in
• 50:27
  the
• 50:27
  background.
• 50:28
  He
• 50:28
  didn't.
• 50:28
  He
• 50:28
  wasn't
• 50:29
  always
• 50:29
  at
• 50:29
  every
• 50:29
  game
• 50:30
  that
• 50:30
  I
• 50:30
  remember.
• 50:30
  Maybe
• 50:31
  he
• 50:31
  didn't
• 50:31
  travel
• 50:31
  with
• 50:31
  us
• 50:32
  all
• 50:32
  the
• 50:32
  time,
• 50:32
  but
• 50:32
  he
• 50:32
  was
• 50:33
  there,
• 50:33
  he
• 50:33
  was
• 50:33
  around,
• 50:33
  and
• 50:34
  his
• 50:34
  name
• 50:34
  was
• 50:34
  big.
• 50:35
  Yeah.
• 50:36
  So.
• 50:36
  Yeah.
• 50:37
  But
• 50:37
  I
• 50:37
  didn't
• 50:37
  have
• 50:38
  as
• 50:38
  much
• 50:38
  to
• 50:38
  do
• 50:39
  with
• 50:39
  him,
• 50:39
  but
• 50:39
  I
• 50:40
  liked
• 50:40
  him
• 50:40
  a
• 50:40
  lot.
• 50:40
  He
• 50:40
  was
• 50:41
  very
• 50:41
  friendly.
• 50:41
  Yes.
• 50:42
  Rogers
• 50:43
  didn't
• 50:43
  last
• 50:44
  too
• 50:44
  much
• 50:44
  longer.
• 50:45
  He
• 50:45
  passed
• 50:45
  away
• 50:46
  after
• 50:46
  the
• 50:47
  62
• 50:47
  season.
• 50:48
  I,
• 50:48
  I
• 50:48
  guess
• 50:49
  he
• 50:49
  had
• 50:49
  enough
• 50:50
  after
• 50:50
  that.
• 50:52
  Yeah,
• 50:52
  maybe.
• 50:52
  I
• 50:53
  mean,
• 50:53
  he
• 50:54
  was
• 50:54
  up
• 50:54
  there
• 50:54
  in
• 50:54
  years,
• 50:55
  but
• 50:55
  I,
• 50:55
  He.
• 50:55
  I
• 50:55
  seemed
• 50:56
  okay
• 50:56
  to
• 50:56
  me,
• 50:56
  as
• 50:56
  far
• 50:57
  as
• 50:57
  I
• 50:57
  can
• 50:57
  tell.
• 50:57
  Yeah.
• 50:58
  And
• 50:58
  he
• 50:58
  seemed
• 50:58
  to
• 50:58
  be.
• 50:59
  And
• 50:59
  he
• 50:59
  enjoyed
• 50:59
  himself,
• 51:00
  too.
• 51:00
  Yeah.
• 51:00
  That's
• 51:01
  good.
• 51:01
  Of
• 51:01
  course,
• 51:01
  Ali,
• 51:02
  Jimmy
• 51:02
  came
• 51:02
  as
• 51:02
  a
• 51:03
  coach,
• 51:03
  right.
• 51:04
  And
• 51:05
  he's
• 51:05
  always.
• 51:06
  He's
• 51:06
  always
• 51:07
  a
• 51:07
  fun
• 51:07
  guy
• 51:07
  to
• 51:08
  be
• 51:08
  around,
• 51:08
  and
• 51:08
  I
• 51:08
  like
• 51:09
  him
• 51:09
  as
• 51:09
  a
• 51:09
  manager
• 51:09
  of
• 51:10
  the
• 51:10
  Cardinals,
• 51:10
  and.
• 51:11
  And
• 51:11
  he
• 51:11
  just
• 51:11
  lost
• 51:12
  his
• 51:12
  job
• 51:12
  there,
• 51:12
  but
• 51:13
  fortunately
• 51:13
  he
• 51:13
  came
• 51:14
  to
• 51:14
  the
• 51:14
  Mets,
• 51:14
  and
• 51:14
  that's
• 51:15
  how
• 51:15
  I
• 51:15
  got
• 51:15
  picked
• 51:15
  to
• 51:15
  the
• 51:15
  Mets.
• 51:17
  Yes.
• 51:18
  So,
• 51:18
  I
• 51:18
  mean,
• 51:18
  the
• 51:18
  Met
• 51:19
  story
• 51:19
  hasn't.
• 51:20
  Has
• 51:20
  changed
• 51:21
  a
• 51:21
  lot
• 51:21
  in
• 51:21
  65
• 51:22
  years.
• 51:23
  Oh,
• 51:23
  yeah.
• 51:24
  Yeah.
• 51:25
  You
• 51:25
  know
• 51:25
  what
• 51:25
  I'm
• 51:25
  saying?
• 51:28
  We
• 51:28
  got
• 51:28
  on.
• 51:28
  We're
• 51:29
  back
• 51:29
  in
• 51:29
  the
• 51:29
  news,
• 51:30
  so.
• 51:30
  Yeah,
• 51:30
  go
• 51:30
  ahead.
• 51:31
  What
• 51:31
  about
• 51:32
  Cookie
• 51:33
  Lavagedo?
• 51:33
  Was
• 51:34
  he
• 51:34
  a
• 51:34
  Coach
• 51:34
  on
• 51:34
  the
• 51:35
  62
• 51:35
  Mets?
• 51:36
  Third
• 51:37
  base
• 51:37
  coach.
• 51:38
  Good
• 51:38
  guy.
• 51:38
  Really
• 51:39
  good
• 51:39
  guy.
• 51:39
  Yeah.
• 51:40
  Yeah.
• 51:40
  I
• 51:40
  really
• 51:40
  liked
• 51:41
  him
• 51:41
  a
• 51:41
  lot.
• 51:41
  He
• 51:42
  was
• 51:42
  a
• 51:42
  very
• 51:42
  good,
• 51:43
  very
• 51:43
  smart
• 51:43
  man.
• 51:45
  Very
• 51:45
  good
• 51:45
  coach.
• 51:46
  Could
• 51:46
  have
• 51:46
  been
• 51:46
  the
• 51:47
  manager,
• 51:47
  too.
• 51:48
  Yeah.
• 51:49
  But.
• 51:49
  Yeah.
• 51:50
  Yeah,
• 51:51
  I
• 51:51
  like.
• 51:51
  Yeah,
• 51:52
  he
• 51:52
  was
• 51:52
  good.
• 51:52
  He
• 51:53
  was
• 51:53
  good.
• 51:53
  We're
• 51:54
  speaking
• 51:54
  with
• 51:54
  Craig
• 51:54
  Anderson
• 51:55
  tonight
• 51:55
  on
• 51:55
  Sports
• 51:56
  Talk.
• 51:56
  New
• 51:56
  York
• 51:57
  in
• 51:57
  1962,
• 51:58
  met
• 51:58
  with
• 51:59
  some
• 51:59
  tremendous
• 52:00
  stories
• 52:00
  that
• 52:00
  we're
• 52:01
  talking
• 52:01
  about
• 52:01
  tonight.
• 52:02
  Now
• 52:03
  tell
• 52:03
  the
• 52:04
  folks
• 52:04
  about
• 52:04
  Doug
• 52:05
  Collins,
• 52:05
  Craig.
• 52:06
  How.
• 52:07
  How
• 52:08
  is
• 52:08
  he
• 52:08
  related
• 52:09
  to
• 52:09
  you?
• 52:09
  Doug,
• 52:09
  the
• 52:10
  great
• 52:10
  basketball
• 52:11
  coach
• 52:11
  and
• 52:11
  basketball
• 52:12
  player,
• 52:12
  Doug
• 52:13
  Collins?
• 52:14
  Oh,
• 52:14
  yeah,
• 52:15
  you're
• 52:15
  right.
• 52:16
  I,
• 52:16
  I
• 52:17
  never.
• 52:17
  I
• 52:17
  didn't
• 52:17
  know
• 52:18
  him.
• 52:18
  You
• 52:19
  know,
• 52:19
  I'm.
• 52:20
  I'm
• 52:20
  with
• 52:20
  the
• 52:20
  Cardinals
• 52:21
  in
• 52:21
  September
• 52:22
  of
• 52:22
  61,
• 52:24
  and
• 52:24
  a
• 52:25
  beautiful
• 52:25
  young
• 52:25
  lady
• 52:26
  came
• 52:26
  and
• 52:26
  asked
• 52:26
  me
• 52:27
  for
• 52:27
  my
• 52:27
  autograph,
• 52:28
  and
• 52:28
  I
• 52:28
  gave
• 52:28
  it
• 52:28
  to
• 52:28
  her,
• 52:29
  and
• 52:29
  I
• 52:29
  said,
• 52:29
  wow,
• 52:30
  that's.
• 52:30
  That's
• 52:31
  something
• 52:31
  special
• 52:31
  there.
• 52:32
  Maybe
• 52:33
  I'll
• 52:33
  try
• 52:33
  to
• 52:33
  ask
• 52:33
  her
• 52:34
  out.
• 52:34
  You
• 52:34
  know,
• 52:34
  hey,
• 52:34
  you
• 52:35
  know,
• 52:35
  you
• 52:35
  can't
• 52:35
  go
• 52:35
  and
• 52:35
  ask
• 52:36
  somebody
• 52:36
  out
• 52:36
  when
• 52:37
  you're
• 52:37
  playing
• 52:37
  baseball
• 52:38
  and
• 52:38
  reach
• 52:38
  over
• 52:38
  and
• 52:38
  say,
• 52:38
  hey,
• 52:39
  you
• 52:39
  want
• 52:39
  to
• 52:39
  go
• 52:39
  out
• 52:39
  for
• 52:39
  a
• 52:39
  kid?
• 52:39
  I
• 52:40
  can't
• 52:40
  do
• 52:40
  that.
• 52:40
  Yeah.
• 52:41
  So
• 52:41
  I
• 52:41
  had
• 52:41
  to
• 52:41
  figure
• 52:42
  out
• 52:42
  how
• 52:42
  I
• 52:42
  could
• 52:42
  get
• 52:43
  her
• 52:43
  a
• 52:43
  message.
• 52:43
  I
• 52:43
  had
• 52:44
  to
• 52:44
  go
• 52:44
  to
• 52:44
  the.
• 52:45
  The
• 52:45
  guy
• 52:46
  that
• 52:46
  was
• 52:46
  the
• 52:46
  door
• 52:46
  guard
• 52:47
  of
• 52:47
  our
• 52:48
  clubhouse.
• 52:48
  I
• 52:49
  said,
• 52:49
  would
• 52:49
  you
• 52:49
  mind
• 52:49
  just
• 52:50
  taking
• 52:50
  a
• 52:50
  note
• 52:50
  down
• 52:50
  to
• 52:51
  her?
• 52:51
  And
• 52:51
  they
• 52:51
  did.
• 52:51
  And
• 52:52
  then
• 52:52
  she
• 52:53
  saw
• 52:53
  we
• 52:53
  Went
• 52:53
  out
• 52:54
  on
• 52:54
  a
• 52:54
  date
• 52:54
  that
• 52:54
  night,
• 52:54
  and
• 52:55
  44
• 52:55
  days
• 52:56
  later,
• 52:56
  we
• 52:56
  got
• 52:56
  married.
• 52:57
  44
• 52:58
  days.
• 52:58
  Wow.
• 52:59
  Judy
• 53:00
  McCarty
• 53:01
  from
• 53:01
  Benton,
• 53:01
  Illinois.
• 53:02
  Okay.
• 53:03
  So
• 53:03
  that.
• 53:04
  So
• 53:04
  after.
• 53:05
  After
• 53:05
  we
• 53:05
  got
• 53:05
  married
• 53:07
  and
• 53:08
  we
• 53:08
  came
• 53:08
  back
• 53:08
  to
• 53:08
  Benton
• 53:09
  in
• 53:09
  the
• 53:09
  off
• 53:10
  season,
• 53:12
  Judy
• 53:13
  asked
• 53:13
  me
• 53:13
  if
• 53:13
  would
• 53:13
  you
• 53:14
  mind
• 53:14
  going
• 53:14
  to
• 53:14
  talk
• 53:14
  to
• 53:15
  my
• 53:15
  cousin?
• 53:15
  He's
• 53:15
  in
• 53:15
  the
• 53:16
  fifth
• 53:16
  grade.
• 53:17
  Well,
• 53:17
  you
• 53:17
  know
• 53:17
  who
• 53:17
  we're
• 53:18
  talking
• 53:18
  about.
• 53:18
  He
• 53:18
  was
• 53:18
  a
• 53:18
  fifth
• 53:19
  grader
• 53:19
  in
• 53:20
  Benton,
• 53:20
  Illinois.
• 53:21
  And
• 53:21
  I
• 53:21
  went
• 53:21
  to
• 53:22
  the
• 53:22
  fifth
• 53:22
  grade,
• 53:22
  and
• 53:23
  her
• 53:23
  cousin
• 53:23
  Doug,
• 53:23
  Doug
• 53:24
  E.
• 53:24
  Collins,
• 53:24
  was
• 53:25
  sitting
• 53:25
  in
• 53:25
  the
• 53:25
  back
• 53:25
  of
• 53:26
  the
• 53:26
  room.
• 53:27
  And
• 53:27
  that's
• 53:27
  how
• 53:28
  I
• 53:28
  got
• 53:28
  to
• 53:28
  meet
• 53:28
  him
• 53:28
  for
• 53:29
  the
• 53:29
  first
• 53:29
  time.
• 53:29
  But
• 53:29
  of
• 53:30
  course,
• 53:30
  he
• 53:30
  was
• 53:30
  anxious
• 53:30
  to
• 53:31
  meet
• 53:31
  me.
• 53:31
  So
• 53:31
  that
• 53:32
  worked
• 53:32
  out
• 53:32
  really
• 53:32
  good.
• 53:32
  But
• 53:33
  he.
• 53:33
  Yeah,
• 53:33
  now
• 53:33
  I'm
• 53:34
  related
• 53:34
  to
• 53:34
  him
• 53:35
  by
• 53:35
  marriage.
• 53:35
  So
• 53:36
  Doug
• 53:36
  Collins
• 53:37
  become
• 53:37
  the
• 53:38
  number
• 53:38
  one
• 53:38
  draft
• 53:38
  pick
• 53:39
  in
• 53:39
  a
• 53:39
  73
• 53:41
  NBA
• 53:42
  draft
• 53:42
  out
• 53:42
  of
• 53:43
  Illinois
• 53:43
  State.
• 53:44
  And,
• 53:45
  boy,
• 53:45
  he
• 53:45
  became
• 53:46
  a
• 53:46
  star
• 53:46
  at
• 53:46
  Benton
• 53:47
  High
• 53:47
  School
• 53:47
  and
• 53:47
  then
• 53:47
  a
• 53:47
  star
• 53:48
  at
• 53:48
  Illinois
• 53:48
  State.
• 53:50
  And
• 53:50
  by
• 53:50
  that
• 53:51
  time,
• 53:51
  I
• 53:51
  was
• 53:53
  back.
• 53:53
  I
• 53:53
  was
• 53:53
  working
• 53:54
  at
• 53:54
  Lehigh
• 53:54
  when
• 53:54
  he
• 53:55
  got
• 53:55
  drafted
• 53:55
  in
• 53:55
  73.
• 53:57
  I
• 53:57
  believe
• 53:57
  it
• 53:57
  was
• 53:58
  73.
• 53:59
  He
• 53:59
  got
• 53:59
  drafted
• 54:00
  and
• 54:00
  signed
• 54:01
  with
• 54:01
  this
• 54:01
  Philadelphia
• 54:02
  76ers.
• 54:03
  And
• 54:03
  we
• 54:03
  lived
• 54:04
  75
• 54:05
  miles
• 54:06
  away
• 54:06
  from
• 54:06
  where
• 54:06
  he's
• 54:07
  going
• 54:07
  to
• 54:07
  play
• 54:07
  basketball.
• 54:08
  So
• 54:08
  that
• 54:08
  was
• 54:08
  luck.
• 54:08
  I
• 54:09
  was
• 54:09
  at
• 54:09
  Lehigh.
• 54:09
  I
• 54:10
  came
• 54:10
  back
• 54:10
  to
• 54:10
  Lehigh
• 54:11
  and
• 54:11
  got
• 54:12
  a
• 54:12
  job
• 54:12
  there
• 54:12
  and
• 54:13
  spent
• 54:13
  the
• 54:13
  rest
• 54:13
  of
• 54:13
  my
• 54:14
  career
• 54:14
  working
• 54:14
  at
• 54:14
  Lehigh.
• 54:15
  And
• 54:15
  so
• 54:15
  we
• 54:16
  got
• 54:16
  to
• 54:16
  go
• 54:16
  to
• 54:16
  a
• 54:16
  lot
• 54:17
  of
• 54:17
  Saturday
• 54:17
  Sixer
• 54:18
  games
• 54:18
  because
• 54:19
  that
• 54:19
  was
• 54:19
  Judy's
• 54:20
  cousin.
• 54:20
  Judy's
• 54:21
  cousin.
• 54:22
  Thank
• 54:22
  you,
• 54:22
  Judy.
• 54:23
  She's
• 54:23
  not
• 54:23
  here.
• 54:26
  Great
• 54:26
  guy.
• 54:26
  And,
• 54:27
  yeah,
• 54:28
  I've
• 54:28
  met
• 54:28
  a
• 54:28
  lot
• 54:28
  of
• 54:28
  interesting
• 54:29
  people
• 54:29
  through
• 54:29
  him.
• 54:30
  You
• 54:30
  know,
• 54:30
  he
• 54:30
  was
• 54:30
  fun
• 54:31
  friends
• 54:31
  with
• 54:31
  the
• 54:31
  Philadelphia
• 54:32
  Philly
• 54:33
  players.
• 54:33
  And
• 54:33
  we
• 54:33
  go
• 54:34
  a
• 54:34
  couple
• 54:34
  times,
• 54:34
  I
• 54:34
  went
• 54:35
  out
• 54:35
  with
• 54:35
  Mike
• 54:35
  Schmidt
• 54:36
  and
• 54:36
  Leg
• 54:36
  Brzezinski
• 54:37
  with
• 54:37
  him,
• 54:38
  and
• 54:39
  we
• 54:39
  went
• 54:39
  to
• 54:39
  a
• 54:39
  lot
• 54:39
  of
• 54:39
  his
• 54:39
  games
• 54:40
  because,
• 54:41
  you
• 54:41
  know,
• 54:42
  it
• 54:42
  was
• 54:42
  convenient.
• 54:42
  So
• 54:43
  my
• 54:43
  kids
• 54:44
  got
• 54:44
  to
• 54:44
  go
• 54:44
  see
• 54:44
  him
• 54:44
  playing
• 54:45
  when
• 54:45
  they
• 54:45
  were
• 54:45
  young.
• 54:46
  So,
• 54:46
  yeah,
• 54:46
  yeah,
• 54:47
  it
• 54:47
  was.
• 54:47
  He
• 54:48
  was
• 54:48
  a
• 54:48
  great,
• 54:48
  great
• 54:48
  guy
• 54:49
  and
• 54:49
  a
• 54:49
  great
• 54:49
  addition
• 54:50
  to
• 54:50
  the
• 54:50
  family,
• 54:50
  shall
• 54:51
  we
• 54:51
  say?
• 54:51
  There's
• 54:52
  a
• 54:52
  story,
• 54:52
  folks,
• 54:52
  of
• 54:53
  Doug
• 54:53
  Collins,.
• 54:53
  And
• 54:53
  we're
• 54:54
  still
• 54:54
  in
• 54:54
  good
• 54:54
  stuff.
• 54:54
  We
• 54:54
  still
• 54:55
  in
• 54:55
  touch
• 54:55
  and
• 54:55
  do.
• 54:55
  Yeah,
• 54:56
  we're
• 54:56
  still
• 54:56
  in
• 54:56
  touch
• 54:56
  with
• 54:56
  him.
• 54:57
  Wonderful.
• 54:58
  Well,
• 54:58
  I
• 54:59
  tell
• 54:59
  you,
• 54:59
  Craig,
• 55:00
  I
• 55:00
  got
• 55:00
  so
• 55:00
  many
• 55:00
  more
• 55:01
  things
• 55:01
  to
• 55:01
  talk
• 55:01
  about,
• 55:02
  but
• 55:02
  we're
• 55:02
  out
• 55:02
  of
• 55:03
  time.
• 55:03
  I
• 55:03
  want
• 55:03
  to
• 55:03
  talk
• 55:03
  to
• 55:04
  you
• 55:04
  about
• 55:04
  Choo
• 55:04
  Choo
• 55:04
  Coleman,
• 55:05
  about
• 55:05
  your
• 55:05
  days
• 55:06
  at
• 55:06
  Lehigh,
• 55:08
  people
• 55:09
  living
• 55:09
  in
• 55:09
  Dunelin
• 55:10
  that
• 55:10
  I
• 55:10
  knew,
• 55:11
  and
• 55:12
  just
• 55:12
  so
• 55:12
  many
• 55:12
  things.
• 55:13
  Can
• 55:14
  you
• 55:14
  come
• 55:14
  back
• 55:14
  on
• 55:15
  the
• 55:15
  show,
• 55:15
  Craig?
• 55:16
  Yeah,
• 55:17
  let's
• 55:17
  do
• 55:17
  it.
• 55:17
  We
• 55:17
  got
• 55:18
  to
• 55:18
  pick
• 55:18
  it
• 55:18
  up
• 55:18
  where
• 55:18
  we
• 55:18
  leave
• 55:19
  off.
• 55:19
  Yeah.
• 55:19
  All
• 55:20
  right.
• 55:20
  That
• 55:20
  sounds
• 55:21
  already
• 55:21
  9
• 55:22
  o'.
• 55:22
  Clock.
• 55:22
  Seriously,
• 55:23
  is
• 55:23
  it
• 55:23
  9
• 55:23
  o'?
• 55:23
  Clock?
• 55:24
  I
• 55:24
  didn't
• 55:24
  even
• 55:24
  look.
• 55:24
  8:57.
• 55:25
  Yeah,
• 55:26
  we
• 55:26
  gotta
• 55:27
  head
• 55:27
  out
• 55:27
  here.
• 55:28
  So.
• 55:28
  Craig
• 55:29
  Anderson.
• 55:29
  Yeah.
• 55:29
  We
• 55:30
  didn't
• 55:30
  talk
• 55:30
  about
• 55:30
  it.
• 55:30
  You're
• 55:31
  right.
• 55:31
  There's
• 55:31
  some
• 55:31
  more
• 55:32
  people
• 55:32
  to
• 55:32
  talk
• 55:32
  about.
• 55:33
  I'll
• 55:33
  be
• 55:33
  glad
• 55:33
  to
• 55:33
  do
• 55:33
  it.
• 55:34
  Yeah,
• 55:35
  we
• 55:35
  got
• 55:36
  to
• 55:36
  get
• 55:36
  some
• 55:36
  more
• 55:36
  stories.
• 55:37
  Craig,
• 55:38
  it's
• 55:38
  been
• 55:38
  an
• 55:38
  honor
• 55:39
  and
• 55:39
  a
• 55:39
  pleasure.
• 55:40
  Thank
• 55:40
  you
• 55:41
  for
• 55:41
  taking
• 55:41
  time
• 55:41
  out
• 55:42
  of
• 55:42
  your
• 55:42
  Sunday
• 55:42
  evening,
• 55:43
  your
• 55:43
  Easter
• 55:43
  Sunday,
• 55:44
  to
• 55:44
  spend
• 55:45
  it
• 55:45
  with
• 55:45
  us
• 55:45
  up
• 55:46
  here
• 55:46
  at
• 55:46
  Sports
• 55:46
  Talk
• 55:47
  New
• 55:47
  York.
• 55:47
  I
• 55:48
  wish
• 55:48
  you
• 55:48
  and
• 55:48
  Judy
• 55:49
  the
• 55:49
  best
• 55:50
  of
• 55:50
  health
• 55:50
  and
• 55:50
  happiness
• 55:52
  and
• 55:52
  we
• 55:53
  will
• 55:53
  talk
• 55:53
  to
• 55:53
  you
• 55:54
  soon.
• 55:55
  Okay.
• 55:55
  My
• 55:55
  best
• 55:56
  wishes
• 55:56
  to
• 55:56
  all
• 55:57
  the
• 55:57
  great
• 55:57
  New
• 55:57
  York
• 55:58
  Met
• 55:58
  fans
• 55:58
  that
• 55:58
  they
• 55:59
  are
• 55:59
  one
• 55:59
  of
• 55:59
  the
• 55:59
  greatest
• 56:00
  band
• 56:00
  of
• 56:01
  baseball
• 56:01
  fans
• 56:02
  that
• 56:02
  I've
• 56:02
  ever
• 56:03
  run
• 56:03
  across
• 56:03
  and
• 56:04
  stuck
• 56:04
  with
• 56:04
  us
• 56:05
  through
• 56:05
  thick
• 56:05
  and
• 56:06
  thin.
• 56:06
  And
• 56:07
  the
• 56:08
  next
• 56:08
  time
• 56:08
  I
• 56:08
  talk
• 56:09
  to
• 56:09
  you.
• 56:10
  Things
• 56:11
  change
• 56:11
  here.
• 56:12
  In
• 56:12
  the
• 56:12
  last
• 56:13
  five
• 56:13
  years,
• 56:13
  I've
• 56:14
  getting
• 56:14
  so
• 56:14
  much
• 56:14
  publicity,
• 56:15
  I'm
• 56:15
  not
• 56:15
  sure
• 56:15
  how
• 56:16
  we're
• 56:16
  going
• 56:16
  to.
• 56:17
  Yeah,
• 56:18
  it's
• 56:18
  been
• 56:18
  fun.
• 56:18
  It's
• 56:19
  really
• 56:19
  been
• 56:19
  fun.
• 56:19
  And
• 56:20
  a
• 56:20
  new
• 56:20
  owner
• 56:20
  was
• 56:20
  a
• 56:21
  big
• 56:21
  factor
• 56:21
  for
• 56:21
  that.
• 56:22
  Yeah.
• 56:22
  Okay.
• 56:22
  Yeah,
• 56:23
  he's
• 56:23
  taking
• 56:23
  care
• 56:23
  of
• 56:24
  the
• 56:24
  alumni
• 56:24
  again.
• 56:24
  Maybe
• 56:25
  in
• 56:25
  the
• 56:25
  middle
• 56:25
  of
• 56:25
  the
• 56:25
  season
• 56:26
  somewhere
• 56:26
  we
• 56:26
  can.
• 56:28
  I'll
• 56:28
  leave
• 56:28
  it
• 56:28
  up
• 56:28
  to
• 56:28
  you.
• 56:29
  All
• 56:29
  right,
• 56:29
  I'll
• 56:30
  give
• 56:30
  you
• 56:30
  a
• 56:30
  call.
• 56:30
  Craig,
• 56:31
  thank
• 56:31
  you
• 56:32
  so
• 56:32
  much.
• 56:32
  Okay,
• 56:33
  that's
• 56:33
  Craig
• 56:33
  Anderson
• 56:34
  having
• 56:34
  me.
• 56:34
  Thank
• 56:35
  you
• 56:35
  very
• 56:35
  much.
• 56:35
  You're
• 56:35
  very
• 56:35
  welcome.
• 56:36
  Okay,
• 56:37
  that's
• 56:37
  Craig
• 56:37
  Anderson,
• 56:38
  ladies
• 56:38
  and
• 56:38
  gentlemen.
• 56:39
  That'll
• 56:39
  do
• 56:39
  it
• 56:39
  for
• 56:39
  me
• 56:40
  tonight
• 56:40
  on
• 56:40
  Sports
• 56:41
  Talk
• 56:41
  New
• 56:41
  York.
• 56:42
  I
• 56:42
  would
• 56:42
  like
• 56:42
  to
• 56:43
  thank
• 56:43
  my
• 56:43
  wonderful
• 56:44
  guests
• 56:44
  Jack
• 56:45
  McKeon
• 56:46
  and
• 56:46
  Craig
• 56:47
  Anderson.
• 56:48
  My
• 56:48
  engineer,
• 56:48
  Brian
• 56:49
  Graves,
• 56:49
  and
• 56:49
  of
• 56:49
  course,
• 56:50
  you
• 56:50
  guys
• 56:50
  for
• 56:50
  joining
• 56:51
  us.
• 56:51
  I'll
• 56:52
  see
• 56:52
  you
• 56:52
  on
• 56:52
  May
• 56:52
  3rd
• 56:53
  for
• 56:53
  more
• 56:53
  sports
• 56:54
  Talk
• 56:54
  New
• 56:54
  York.
• 56:55
  Till
• 56:55
  then,
• 56:56
  be
• 56:56
  safe
• 56:56
  and
• 56:56
  be
• 56:57
  well.
• 56:57
  Bill
• 56:58
  Donahue,
• 56:58
  wishing
• 56:59
  you
• 56:59
  a
• 56:59
  good
• 56:59
  evening,
• 57:00
  folks.
• 57:00
  The
• 57:00
  views
• 57:00
  expressed
• 57:01
  in
• 57:01
  the
• 57:01
  previous
• 57:01
  program.
• 57:02
  Did
• 57:02
  not
• 57:02
  necessarily
• 57:03
  represent
• 57:03
  those
• 57:04
  of
• 57:04
  the
• 57:04
  staff,
• 57:04
  management
• 57:05
  or
• 57:05
  owners
• 57:06
  of
• 57:06
  wgbb.