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Nationals mailbag: New tech, revamped farm system, CJ Abrams trade? · District Territory

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back, Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Wherever you're
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  Speaker 1: listening from. I'm Eric shell House alongside bencer Nus Mom
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  Speaker 1: good Night, and Kevin Franzen of the Washington Nationals. Happy Friday.
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  Speaker 1: The Nationals just wrapped up four game set against the
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  Speaker 1: Atlanta Braves, but we're not here to talk about that. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: we're here to take your all's questions. Today is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a fanbag episode. I'm really excited for it.
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  Speaker 1: You all send in some good questions. You're sending some
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  Speaker 1: questionable ones too, but uh, Fanny Spencer, you all excited
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  Speaker 1: to get into this.
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  Speaker 2: There's no such bad thing as a bad Questionaireic you
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  Speaker 2: got to remember that you're right.
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  Speaker 3: You're right.
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  Speaker 4: Questionable, he didn't say, Patty, he said questionable.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, That's right. You know what I'm in the
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  Speaker 2: wrong here. Nice job, Especer.
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  Speaker 1: Some of these things. You're absolutely right. There's no such
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  Speaker 1: thing as a bad question Any question is a learning opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: But there is certainly some in here. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: what order I really want to go in here, but
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  Speaker 1: let's take up the first one. Eric Johnson asked, I
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  Speaker 1: love the show. There has been all this talk about
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  Speaker 1: Tibony and buttera embracing the latest technology to help put
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  Speaker 1: our players in the best position to succeed, which is
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  Speaker 1: amazing to hear. But I'm very unfamiliar with exactly what
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  Speaker 1: tech is being used. Can any of you fill us in? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I think you guys are definitely a bit more equipped
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  Speaker 1: to answer this than me. Spencer, you got to see
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  Speaker 1: some of it at Fredericksburg. But Franny, what are you
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  Speaker 1: seeing down on the field day to day basis?
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  Speaker 5: I'm just gonna I'm gonna let Spencer talk about this
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  Speaker 5: because he's done some great articles on it, and he
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  Speaker 5: and I for two years three years, have been talking
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  Speaker 5: about this and not having it. And the traject machine
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  Speaker 5: is something that I wish we had earlier, and it
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  Speaker 5: is the bare minimum that you have to have in
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  Speaker 5: the big leagues right now. And it's a it's all
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  Speaker 5: data driven, it's a it's a it's a pitchy machine
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  Speaker 5: that really gives you the exact look that you're gonna
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  Speaker 5: get from the picture. And it's his image, his sequencing.
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  Speaker 5: You could also program it to just see his fastballs.
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  Speaker 5: You can go and face you know, like they just
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  Speaker 5: did yesterday. Chris Sales so you put it all the
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  Speaker 5: way over in his slot so you can get the
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  Speaker 5: eyes and the visuals. And they were so far behind
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  Speaker 5: in this. They're expensive, but it's a tech, a piece
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  Speaker 5: of tech that they needed to have and to prepare
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  Speaker 5: and the guys the amount of you know, Wednesday, Specer
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  Speaker 5: talked about it with the catchers and being prepared right
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  Speaker 5: for coming off the bench and using traject and doing
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  Speaker 5: all this stuff, but also before games. It's a fantastic
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  Speaker 5: piece that is just I feel like the tip of
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  Speaker 5: the iceberg when it comes to tech. And I'll leave
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  Speaker 5: it to special to answer the rest on that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to list off the top of my
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  Speaker 2: head the things that I believe traject has done.
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  Speaker 4: First, C. J.
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  Speaker 2: Abrams got to camp early so he could head off
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  Speaker 2: the trajects so he could see pitches over the heart
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  Speaker 2: of the plate. Guess what he's doing. He's crossing pitches
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  Speaker 2: over the heart of the plate. Brady House used the
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  Speaker 2: traject the lot in spring training, said Hey, I want
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  Speaker 2: to look at pitches and watch them go by, so
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  Speaker 2: I know the pitches not to swing at. Guess what
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  Speaker 2: he's doing. It's up a little bit recently, but the
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  Speaker 2: chase rate is down. The catchers, they've been a poor
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  Speaker 2: framing team for years and years and years. This is
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  Speaker 2: not something where you can maybe draw one to one comparison,
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  Speaker 2: but they're catching off of the traject machine, working on
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  Speaker 2: their framing. There the ABS challenges they haven't been great,
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  Speaker 2: but part of the reason they think they will be
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  Speaker 2: better is because they're practicing ABS challenges off of the
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  Speaker 2: traject machine. I could go on for pitchers who have
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  Speaker 2: difficult armslots like Sale. It isn't always easy, but for
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  Speaker 2: a lot of these guys, you are getting a look
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  Speaker 2: where they've said, hey, it feels like I'm facing a
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  Speaker 2: guy for the fourth or fifth time today when I
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  Speaker 2: go up there for the first time, it's the best
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  Speaker 2: offense in baseball. It's a more prepared offense. Even the
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  Speaker 2: catchers in spring training when they were trying to familiarize
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  Speaker 2: themselves with the new pitchers on the roster. There are
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  Speaker 2: only so many pitches that those guys can throw. But
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  Speaker 2: the catchers a can work off their framing off those guys,
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  Speaker 2: and they can also start to learn their repertoires a
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  Speaker 2: little bit better than you know, just talking to the
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  Speaker 2: guys or just seeing them on video.
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  Speaker 5: I told you this a couple of years ago. It
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  Speaker 5: was the last WBC J Troo. Mito went to play
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  Speaker 5: for Team USA and they signed Greg Risoto a little
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  Speaker 5: bit later. But the thnin he had visa problems, if
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  Speaker 5: you remember that, and before he left, he was like,
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  Speaker 5: there was no way he was going to catch him,
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  Speaker 5: and he wanted to have an idea, and he went
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  Speaker 5: and caught at like a ton of pitches on him.
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  Speaker 4: Right. It's for stuff like.
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  Speaker 5: That, the visual part of it, as a pinch hit
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  Speaker 5: or someone that succeeded in that role for a while
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  Speaker 5: but also got dominated too, right, Like there, I would
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  Speaker 5: love to have known I was going to get dominated before.
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  Speaker 5: Well before it been nice but like facey Craik Kimbrel
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  Speaker 5: and understanding his stuff even better. I was zero for nine, right,
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  Speaker 5: I hit one ball hard off him the entire time.
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  Speaker 4: But I had all.
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  Speaker 5: These like visuals and like a bats that they're so
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  Speaker 5: spread out that you're going like, I just wish there
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  Speaker 5: was something, and then you're going, yeah, I wish I
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  Speaker 5: had this, And it's exactly you know, a piece of
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  Speaker 5: the technology.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why we even that's a good reminder that
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  Speaker 2: you know this team has been a pretty good pinch
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  Speaker 2: hitting team. Part of that is they're playing the right matchups.
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  Speaker 2: Part of it is those guys can actually go back
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  Speaker 2: in the middle of the game in a way they
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  Speaker 2: couldn't do before and prepare.
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  Speaker 4: For those guys.
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  Speaker 2: Like that's a big thing.
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  Speaker 5: Babus against Stannic against the Cardinals. Remember he had that
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  Speaker 5: let line drive over the shortstop's head. There's an absolute rocket.
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  Speaker 5: Everyone was laughing there, like he probably saw a hundred
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  Speaker 5: stand pitches before that back because they knew that that
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  Speaker 5: was he knew that was the guy he was going
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  Speaker 5: to get that time.
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  Speaker 2: The other few Yeah, I was just gonna say the
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  Speaker 2: other few pieces of technology i'd throw out real quick.
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  Speaker 2: There's more wearable technology, so they're able to better monitor
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  Speaker 2: the stress on arms and kind of the for position players,
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  Speaker 2: just general wear and tear specifically with the swings. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's been huge. And the other big one I
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  Speaker 2: think I would point out is just again kind of
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  Speaker 2: all the tracking behind the scenes in the minor leagues
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  Speaker 2: in the sense that maybe this stuff wasn't either brought
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  Speaker 2: directly to the players before or it wasn't something they
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  Speaker 2: had before. Where now again I was down in Fredericksburg
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  Speaker 2: when they're taking batting practice, they had the metrics on
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  Speaker 2: all of their swings, exit, velocity, launch angle when the
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  Speaker 2: pitchers were down there. Again, you're having everything tracked in
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  Speaker 2: the bullpen and brought back to you with reports. They
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  Speaker 2: are bringing out, you know, graphs of your chase rate
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  Speaker 2: and all the kind of sort of stuff that you
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  Speaker 2: want them to be working on. It's just it's all
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  Speaker 2: this new stuff and I think, honestly, I haven't even
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  Speaker 2: covered everything.
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  Speaker 4: So it's definitely.
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  Speaker 5: Tracking movements and everything that they're they're going they track
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  Speaker 5: what you know, they'll use them the x ves or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: What are those those ones.
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  Speaker 5: Are the uhport, Yeah, that's what I'm trying to think
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  Speaker 5: of the name on it because they've changed. There's been
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  Speaker 5: so many different changes over the years. But it tracks everything,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and it could tell when your body's a
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  Speaker 5: little a little tired and you redline and and maybe
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  Speaker 5: they give you a day because of that and and
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  Speaker 5: not continuously wear you down. I think that part look
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  Speaker 5: from big leagues all the way down to the minor
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  Speaker 5: leagues is such a huge thing. And and and the
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  Speaker 5: way that they're treating the technology isn't just you get
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  Speaker 5: to the big leagues you get this. It's like, no,
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  Speaker 5: for full development, we need this all the way up
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  Speaker 5: and down. And a part of like what Spencer and
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  Speaker 5: I have talked about before all this was was out,
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  Speaker 5: was that, you know, people are upset that they didn't
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  Speaker 5: spend enough money this offseason, and I'm like, they spent
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  Speaker 5: so much money this off season on infrastructure and getting
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  Speaker 5: things caught up and stuff that I feel like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the everyday fan is not going to know about, but
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  Speaker 5: they need to understan Dan that there was so much
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  Speaker 5: spent on this front office and bringing them in, bringing
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  Speaker 5: the tech in, and getting caught up to the industry
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  Speaker 5: that I don't think it's I think it's almost unquantifiable
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  Speaker 5: about how much they spent based on what we're seeing
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  Speaker 5: right now big leagues, but also the success that they've
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  Speaker 5: had in the minor leagues.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another question we had from fans. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to transition right into that one because there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: we want to get to. Farm system development has been
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  Speaker 1: super promising, particular on the hitting side. That said, it
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  Speaker 1: feels like there's a serious lack of real solutions for
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  Speaker 1: the rotation or bullpen in the upper miners at the moment, Spender,
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  Speaker 1: I know you were at Fredericksburg, but are there any
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  Speaker 1: names to keep an eye on for a real call
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  Speaker 1: up if the pitching woes continue this season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would throw out the name Riley Cornelio. That's
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  Speaker 2: one where I think to oversimplify it, New brad Lord
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  Speaker 2: is kind of the way that it's been described to me.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think there is a level of stuff
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  Speaker 2: with him, a level of consistency with him, and he
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  Speaker 2: was someone where I think there were real considerations about
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  Speaker 2: potentially bringing him up at the end of last year.
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  Speaker 2: If not, you know, serious, at least floated and he's
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  Speaker 2: made even a big leap since then. The fastball in
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  Speaker 2: particular has movement that you just you don't see a
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  Speaker 2: triple A, but you don't see up here. It's got
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  Speaker 2: kind of this darting action that makes it really hard
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  Speaker 2: to hit. That being said, there aren't a ton of
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  Speaker 2: arms in triple A right now that I think outside
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  Speaker 2: evaluators would look as long term pieces for the organization,
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  Speaker 2: And I think that is a issue that you will
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  Speaker 2: see right now. It's an issue we'll see for the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the year. But I've been very bullish on
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  Speaker 2: Riley Cornelio, and he's someone where I think once he
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  Speaker 2: shows that he has the command figured out and he's
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  Speaker 2: pretty close there, that's someone where I think he could
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  Speaker 2: get a long runway in the major leagues.
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  Speaker 5: And guys you're you're also seeing the uh, the beauty
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  Speaker 5: of having an unbiased opinion right when it comes to
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  Speaker 5: the minor leagues and Paul Tiboni, Devin Pearson, you know,
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  Speaker 5: Justin Horowitz, the guys that are involved in this every day.
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  Speaker 5: Usually you hear about all these guys coming in front office.
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  Speaker 5: They're like, Oh, it sucks, this is terrible worth it.
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  Speaker 5: There's a little bit more here than what what was
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  Speaker 5: being you know, promoted. I feel like and you know,
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  Speaker 5: what was one of the first names that they talked
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  Speaker 5: about after spring that they had they knew but like
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  Speaker 5: didn't know Ronnie Cruz. Yeah, last night, first first game
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  Speaker 5: in Wilmington, hit a homer, hit a bomb. But I
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  Speaker 5: mean you're talking about a nineteen year old kid that
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  Speaker 5: could pick it. And it's not just about shortstop. It's
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  Speaker 5: like they they have a lot of shortstop depth and
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  Speaker 5: you can't have enough and having finding guys and athletes
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  Speaker 5: and guys that could do this. But Ronnie Cruz, man,
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  Speaker 5: he's got eight extra base hits already, stolen thirteen bases.
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  Speaker 5: He's almost one to one strikeout the walk ratio right now,
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  Speaker 5: which is phenomenal. But that's uh, that's an intriguing name
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  Speaker 5: is we we you know, get going on the position
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  Speaker 5: player side outside of the Eli Willets of the world,
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  Speaker 5: right like outside of like you know, the the Peatriet kids,
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  Speaker 5: and yeah, the Gavin fiends and and Fitzgerald. Fitz Gerald
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  Speaker 5: got to make sure we get that's the hyphen in it.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is the funny thing about going down to
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  Speaker 2: Fredericksburg is there were five legit infield prospects when I
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  Speaker 2: went down there, and I was talking to Devin Pearson,
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  Speaker 2: who's the team's new farm director, and I had asked him, like,
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  Speaker 2: you guys had so much talent in Boston, like did
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  Speaker 2: you ever run into this And he was like, no,
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  Speaker 2: we never had. And you're throwing two more who are
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  Speaker 2: up in Wilmington now three with Cruz being up there.
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  Speaker 2: It's starting to sort itself out a little bit. And again,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, Fanny, these guys are so athletic that
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  Speaker 2: they are. The learning curve in the outfield actually hasn't
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  Speaker 2: been all that's deep, But it's just it's really an
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  Speaker 2: unfathomable level of talent in the lower level of the
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  Speaker 2: miners where you look two years from now and it's
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  Speaker 2: you know, well, some of these guys will have positional
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  Speaker 2: versatility because of that, But really it's just the bats
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  Speaker 2: that are playing in an unreal way.
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  Speaker 5: Den Devin fit Fitzgerald and and Ronnie Cruz are going
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  Speaker 5: to be intriguing together because, I mean, Devon right now
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  Speaker 5: is hitting three thirty three, he's got ten bags, he's
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  Speaker 5: got more walks and strikeouts like that's stuff that you
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  Speaker 5: look at that.
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  Speaker 4: Take it.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, but I mean and it did, and it and again,
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  Speaker 5: this is not promotion by right by patting yourself on
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  Speaker 5: the back. This is promotion because you need this next
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  Speaker 5: step right right, This is.
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  Speaker 4: Where you need to be.
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  Speaker 5: You've earned this, not of like, well, we got to
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  Speaker 5: get you there because we took you, or because you're
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  Speaker 5: my first round pick, or because we traded for you.
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  Speaker 1: Just like you said, it's it's not being forced or
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  Speaker 1: rushed onto these guys.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think, Yeah, the.
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  Speaker 2: One caveat I would give there real quick before we
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  Speaker 2: move on, is again, when I talked to Devin Pearson,
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  Speaker 2: he he uttered a lot of those same remarks. The
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  Speaker 2: caveat is they did need to with Fitzgerald and then
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  Speaker 2: Angel fellies, they did need to move someone up to
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  Speaker 2: create space. That being said, they said, Fitzgerald has like
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  Speaker 2: the best in zone back to ball skills you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: see out of a kid that young. Obviously, he's got pop,
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  Speaker 2: so like they felt comfortable with him there, but he
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  Speaker 2: had whatever, Like he either had forty or like one
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  Speaker 2: hundred plate appearances in single A. So that's not usually
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  Speaker 2: a guy who gets moved up, but it's a I
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  Speaker 2: just want to add that it's a mix of both
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  Speaker 2: comfort and need for the organization, at least right now.
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  Speaker 5: I just can't like, there's some of these kids like
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  Speaker 5: this Chase rape by George Ellie's Moda. By the way,
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  Speaker 5: he hit an absolute tank in our first game and
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  Speaker 5: spring training to centerfield that like was against the wind
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  Speaker 5: that I don't think we saw another one like that
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  Speaker 5: all spring. And he's got like an eighteen percent chase right,
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  Speaker 5: He's probably got one of the best swing decisions in
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  Speaker 5: the entire organization. Now there's swinging miss right, but there's
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  Speaker 5: a lot that like they harp on the like day
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  Speaker 5: of harp from day one, swing decisions, swing decisions.
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  Speaker 4: Whether it's big leagues or the.
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  Speaker 5: Minor leagues, it's the same and it's truthful and you
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  Speaker 5: see it and you're like this, and that motive.
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  Speaker 4: Kid, he can fly, he's huge and he's man. He's
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  Speaker 4: got some athleticism within them. Oh yeah, and we.
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  Speaker 1: Talked about the hitting side of things. I think I'm
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  Speaker 1: bringing up the right question here. Yeah, a pitching related
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  Speaker 1: question because I thought this was a good one. I'm
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  Speaker 1: pretty curious for your guys thoughts too. What was the
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  Speaker 1: thought process with sending Alfaz back down to the minors
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  Speaker 1: after four scoreless innings, especially considering he had a sub
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  Speaker 1: three of the r last season in just twenty three innings.
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  Speaker 1: Did y'all like it?
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  Speaker 4: Yep? One hundred love it? Choice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was the right move.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we want No, you can't keep guys up
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  Speaker 5: here for sentiment just because they had a great outing
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  Speaker 5: and and when you're a starter and you need unless
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  Speaker 5: he is needed in that rotation every single fifth day,
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  Speaker 5: then there's no reason for him to be here every day,
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  Speaker 5: and fans need to understand that there is a plan.
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  Speaker 5: And when you have fresh arms and you're going through
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  Speaker 5: this stretch, there's gonna be guys that have like all
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  Speaker 5: you could make a thing for all three guys that
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  Speaker 5: got sent out in the last couple of days. Orlando
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  Speaker 5: robalta fan, was unbelievable for two outings. Paxton Schultz might
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  Speaker 5: have saved this stretch by going three innings a couple
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  Speaker 5: of days ago, right, more than the Andrew Alvarez, right,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and and and then you have Alvarez go.
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  Speaker 5: And so it's three guys that really perform, but they
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  Speaker 5: weren't going to be used, and they could they.
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  Speaker 4: Had to be ready for the you know, the ability
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  Speaker 4: for them to need an arm.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and I, like you said, this is not a punishment.
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  Speaker 1: This this spencer, the spencer asking this question. This is
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  Speaker 1: not a punishment of Andrew Alvarez, as much as it
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  Speaker 1: may come off as one or seem like one to
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  Speaker 1: the fan. I'm frustrated he's not on the big league
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  Speaker 1: team either, but I understand why they did it. It's
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  Speaker 1: because he's a starter of the future on this team.
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  Speaker 1: He's not going to start right now. He was there
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  Speaker 1: to get innings, did an incredible job at that. You know,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: he he's a starter.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know if he's a starter.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: You're right, you know, I don't. I don't think we
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: know yet either, but the point being, yeah, we need
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: we needed the fresh arms. He came up, He did
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: his job. Thank you. It is not a punishment that
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: you're being sent back down, but in fact, maybe a
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: testant to say, like, we need you down there as well,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: and we want to see what you can do on
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: a day to day basis not you know.
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: And think about who did the giants struggle against lefties?
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: Bing out right and and thinking ahead and being you know,
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: progressive in that part. As far as thinking about, you know,
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: they struggled against lefties, we have this opportunity that we
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: could use right here. They brought him up specifically. You know,
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: it wasn't just like whoever was throwing that day was
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: going to be the guy. It was because he was
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: left handed number one, and it wasn't so happened to
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: be his throade.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: It just matched up perfect.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Perfect storm, real quickly. I got one more question here
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: before we take a break, asked on Twitter here despite
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: a new coaching staff, we're seeing lots of the same
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: mistakes as in previous years, notably poor defense and base running.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Is it possible that some of the current rosters just
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: aren't capable of doing these things at a high level,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: rather than not being coached the right way? Interesting question,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Very interesting question, because I'm not denying the statement that
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of the mistakes that we're seeing the season
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: might be defensive related. But to say that it's the
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: same mistakes or that it looks like the same team
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: is just not accurate.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Not accurate, isn't it right?
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: As we've been discussing this entire show and in the
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: last few episodes, it's the preparation that is different that
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: has made the product on the field different as well.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: So I mean, just going back to this question or
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: this take really quickly, I don't think that it is
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: necessarily the same mistakes. Yes, it is a new coaching staff,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Yes it is some of the same players. There's also
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of new players as well. But I don't
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: think it's the same mistakes that we've been seeing in
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the last two or three years necessarily. Are you guys
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: on the same page with that?
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of maybe a little more fifty to fifty
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: than you two.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: So for example, we talked up CGA Abrams defense the
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: other day, and I do think there's a credit to that,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: and I do think he's been more locked in. I
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: also think you still are seeing him miss some of
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: the routine plays that you'd want him to make. I
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: think you look at naz Is making some exceptional plays,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: there been a handful that I think he'd probably want back.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: And I think when you look at the infield in particular,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: that's an area where you have a new first basement,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: and so that's also not the same problem as before,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: but it definitely complicates things, right.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I guess my.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Overarching point here is that I'm reading more into the
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: way that they are handling the mistakes because it's April,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: and then once we hit June or maybe July, it's
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: the mistakes need to if not stop, probably decrease drastically.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: I just think it takes like Louis, it doesn't take
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: you know, an hour and a half every day of
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: early work in three weeks to learn first base. That's
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: something that takes months. You look at CJ again, super
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: athletic makes a lot of great plays and has made
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: more routine plays, but there's still a learning curve there.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: And so for me, the execution stuff is even if
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: it sucks to watch as a fan, for you guys,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: and I understand that that's something where I'm looking more
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: at the execution two months from now, then I'm necessarily
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: looking at it right now.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I think you hit the nail right on the head.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Sorry if I'm cutting you off, Franny, But it's April,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: going back, whoa wrong question there? Going back to this
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: question one more time. It's April. So I would just
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: take a deep breath and, like Spence just said, take
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: a look at this team a month from now, are
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: they still making what that person wrote the same mistakes
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: what you're seeing on the field, Will you be seeing
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: those a month from now, two months from now, hopefully not?
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: And if the answer is no, then I think you
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: can say, hey, this coaching staff is doing their job
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: real quickly before.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I also think that there's a.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: But if this is a byproduct of missing out on
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: these opportunities for years too, right, right, So this is
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: a part of the habit of the player players that
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: you're trying to still break. And it's like Specer said,
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: it's not a couple of weeks and it's going to
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: be all corrected, whether it's the base running part or
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: the fielding part. I think on the base running side
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: of it, like certain things that detail oriented that they've been.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they've gotten picked off.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: I think they've been over aggressive at times, and much
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: rather that than than the other way.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Right, we're having.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: Less guys look for the ball instead of looking at
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: their base coach, you know, going around third and giving
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: you know, Nas scoring the other day against the Giants
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: was all because he got back to second running hard
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: a third, gave Victor estev As a chance, and you
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: know what, he took a chance, and I'm all for it,
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: Like take a chance. Is a very active third base coach,
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: I've hit it.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I love it so active at third base, and like
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: you said, really quickly before we take a break here,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: like it's the brain is a muscle. And so these
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: same players in the going back to that question one
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: more time, the players that you've seen from the previous
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: couple of years, their mindset is one that has been
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: kind of doctrinated upon, but one that they have embraced
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: a philosophy of how to play baseball depending on however
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: long the player has been here. And now there's this
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: new philosophy and that's not just going to change overnight.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: But I think they're doing a pretty damn good job
• 22:14
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  Speaker 1: Let's get back to the action. Let's bring up another
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  Speaker 1: question here. Boys, Let's see, let's see who has an
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  Speaker 1: interesting question here? Whoa andy had a lot? I'm not
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: even sure like this which I want to attack here?
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: First?
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: When might we I think the most intriguing what Andy
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: had to me was when might we might see the
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: next big free agent signing in DC? It's certainly been
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: a while. And what is the overall culture like in
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: the clubhouse? I mean, you guys are spending. I'm not
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: allowed in there. My media credentials do not permit me
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: clubhouse access, so you all get a little more insight
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: than me. But what has the culture been.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Like this year?
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: And will we be spending in a big way this offseason.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: I'll les better go on this because I feel like I, yeah,
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: you got on the spending well.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: The culture the clubhouse, I think the culture you've I
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: think you're gonna have the best feel here.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: The biggest thing I would say about culture is that
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: it never changes overnight, but it can improve overnight. I
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: think what you've seen out of this group when I
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: talk to these guys, whether it's in front of a
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: mic or just casually, there's a lot of buy in
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: because the process has been working. And so when we
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: talk about a culture of buy in, it comes because
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: they see, again the traject machines are working, the coaches
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: are working hard to get them detailed plans. I think
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: there's also maybe an understanding and I want to I
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: guess I want to choose my words carefully here, but
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I think that because it's such a young clubhouse, I'll
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: just let it rip. These guys don't know any better
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: and they haven't seen any better, and so they don't
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: necessarily have the leeway or the impetus to say like
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not buying into this tech crap or I'm not,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: you know, gonna buy into this process. Like they saw
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: the way it worked before, they say they saw the
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: way it didn't work before, and they're seeing what's happening now.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: It's April, and I think it's early, but a lot
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: of these guys are bought in. I think they're There
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: will be times where there is discomfort with some of
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: the newness with regards to putting guys like in new
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: pitching roles, for instance, or things of that nature. I
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: think that that's something that is never going to be
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: comfortable for a competitor on the mound per se. But
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I think if the organization is transparent about their decision making,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: you will see a culture that is bought in. And
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: that's where we're at now. Again, we'll see once June
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: hits if there's some sort of long skid how that
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: changes things. But I would say that the culture is
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: moving in the right direction, if not fully a club
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: that's ready to play October yet, And I don't think
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: that's kind of an expectation we should even have on
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: them right now.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Right beautifully.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: I think that is what you said very first thing,
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: which was a culture can't be changed overnight. And the
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: byproduct of working hard and doing all that you set
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: routines and do.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: That's that's also part of building that culture, right.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: And when you get these guys ingrained in their routine
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: and all that, I think you're gonna see another step
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: to it, right and into what they're doing. I think
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: the other part of it is winning, is like that's
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: a culture setter, yeah, right, Like you want, like the
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: ultimate goal is to win in this game, and like
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: winning is going to be your ultimate decider of is
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: that culture good or not? Right, You're gonna be able
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: to say, like is it a lasting culture?
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's that's the part that we
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: want to get to. Is this the lasting culture? When
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: it gets that winning part? Is everything sustainable? Is all
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: this that's a part of it. Why is it so
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: successful in La Well? They talk about how great the
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: culture is it, Well, they're winning with the routines, the
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: understanding of like we're gonna be more prepared than everybody else.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: It's all all intertwined. And so what you're seeing from
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: these guys right now is is a great start of it.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: And you're still wondering who the the position player leader
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: is going to truly be. And I don't know if
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: he's here, and I do you know, Zim and I
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: have talked about this and and I'll be more up
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: front and say it, you know, like it's not that
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: Zim's not it's just that he wouldn't use.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: They'll be You'll know that they're ready when they.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: Got that asshole in there. And I'm there's really that
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: and this is nothing like Jason was that asshole in
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: the best of ways, because he brought that bravado to
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: the entire organization, like you're not stepping on us, guys,
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: like and he would do everything possible to.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Show you that. Yeah, And I think that's when you.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: Know this organization is at that level, is when you
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: get that signing or that it doesn't even mean signing.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: It could be a trade of that guy that's going
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: to carry that club house with the utmost bravado.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: I guess you could.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Say, yeah, I mean you think you look at it
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: in twenty twelve or part of me twenty eleven when
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Jason came in. It's not like that team was lacking
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: veterans or lacking talent. They simply, like you said, brought
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: in a guy that said, hey, we're not going to
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: get pushed around anymore.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: Okay, like this is let's go on. I'm scared.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: They stole the Phillies guy and said, hey, we're here
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: to play ball with you guys, and this is how
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: it's going to be for the next ten to fifteen,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: oh the future, Like this is it. This is our
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: statement and an asshole in the best of ways, be awesome.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: We ever get him on the show here.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: Right, No, because like this clubhouse, Yes, you've been you've
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: been in this and you understand it. It would be
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: so hard to do this job the last few years
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: if this team were a bunch of JERKSV.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: This is a clubhouse of great, great dudes, such a
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: good character.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: Hey, you want to root for it, but you gotta
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: have that you got to have that ass in there.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: M Yeah, and again just like, yeah, from the perspective
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: of of us doing our jobs in here. Part of
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: the reason it's been so seamless for us is because
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: there isn't a jerk in that room to tell us, hey,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: like why are you writing this or why you know,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: make sure you don't step on these I think you know,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: obviously they they yeah, they respect what we do. But
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: even even beyond that, I think that they're there hasn't
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: been someone who's been signed to a long term contract
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: who's been in the league for many years. You've had
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: guys who are signed to one year deals per se
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: who can offer a lift and show guys, hey, you know,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: I this is how how you do it in the
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: big leagues. But there isn't that impetus for them to
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: see this through and be able to lift those guys
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: and say, regardless of whether it's you know, owning the
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: room or whatnot, it's being able to have a guy
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: who's settled in and knows I'm gonna play with this
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: guy for three more years, so I got to help
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: this guy, so I can help me and help the team.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Well, that's well.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: One of the biggest things from ZIM has always been
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: about the one year deal.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Guys are fine.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: But no one listens to the guys in general, just
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: because it's it's not like a disrespect, it's just, you know,
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: it's you're here and gone. So like that, we start
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: sending two three year deals on guys or more, you know,
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: to be here. I mean, that's the that's the part
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: where you got to get to right.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: And I think fans maybe forget sometimes too. It is
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: not just a commitment from the team to play, to
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: pay the player that they're going to be here for five, six, seven,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: however many years. It is a commitment on the player's
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: end to choose that team and to believe in that team,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: to put a winning field on the team, to build
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: a winning team around them each year. Hey, if we're
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: going to give you this much money and you're going
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: to be the guy, I need to have some faith
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: in the organization that you're going to, you know, do
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the right things to build around it. And I think
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: they're doing those things correct right now first, so that
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: when they bring in a guy, it is going to
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: look like from the outside, when a guy comes in, wait, yeah,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I really want to be here. I'm gonna get to
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: this next question, because we are we have a lot
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: more questions, but the sorry go ahead, Ninny.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: No, I was gonna say, like what Paul Tiboni said
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: the Envious Sports Yeah, I think it's yes, literally what
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: they're building.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: You're watching that they're building it. They're trying.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, get to the next question here real quickly comes
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: from my friend aj Aj. I just wanted to touch
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: on it real quickly. Will someone touch one hundred and
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: six this year? See you answer no question? No, I'm
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: gonna say no. I just don't think anyone can get there.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think it can happen.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I hope I was gonna say no, But the fact
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: that you two said no, I'm saying yes, I'm saying
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Mason Miller's doing.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: It, Okay.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, if there's anyone that could May twenty first,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: he's doing it on May twenty first.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Love Unless it's an one.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Sorry, Mason Miller will be my pick to hit one
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: of six to two a J. I'd love to see
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: it happen, but I think we are at the point
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: of I don't think you can get any harder than this,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: that this is where a PLATEAUSO. Yeah, I mean, what.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Is he at right now?
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: I want to make sure, oh, seventy one percent strikeout rate, that's.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: All right, he sucks, It's all right, it's fine.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Two hits all season. Just he's ridiculous.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, I've never seen a negative FIP.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: You ever seen a negative FIP.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: It's usually one in April.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: But beyond that, Now, what's his FIP right now?
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: Negative?
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Never seen one that small. Never.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: My friend was comparing his fantasy score the other night
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: to like the other fantasy relievers. It's like he's in
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: another stratosphere with this. With this point, it's just like
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: double the next top score. Like on top of the
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: fact that every time pitches he's gonna get a safe,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: he's probably going like two or three ins. He's just ridiculous.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: But that's not NAT's talk. Back to an answer related
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: question Stone's journal rights. At this point in his NAT's career,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: is CJ Abrams more valuable as a trade ship? We
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: also got this question, has CJ. Abrams played himself into
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: a contract extension or trade discussions? You know, coming into
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the season. This is definitely a really interesting talking point
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: because after McKenzie got traded, I was a pretty big
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: believer CJ was gonna be the next out the door.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: This point, I think the team definitely considers him to
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: be a big piece of the team moving forward until
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: those guys from down on the farm have shown at
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: a big league level that they can do what CJ. Does.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: But to answer the question, I don't think there's any
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: reason to think he's played his way into a trade talk.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's certainly in intriguing piece for other teams
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: to come asking about. But if anything, I think he's
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: played himself into a contract extension because he's been very good,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: and I think he has given the Nats all all
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the reasons that he maybe wasn't in the past couple
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: of seasons to say, hey, this is a guy we
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: can and put some money towards to be a core
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: player here in the future.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would push back.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I would push back a little bit specifically on the extension,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: if only because the sort of contract that he would
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: now demand with an OPS in the high nine hundreds,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: with the fact that he has multiple years left he's
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: still twenty five. I believe just the way that the
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: way that extensions are done in baseball, they don't often
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: come when a guy is at his absolute peak, because
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: that's when the organization has to pay their absolute peak.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: And so I think, if anything, this maybe has made
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: it or could make it. I don't want to speak
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: as if I've reported this per se, but I think,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: knowing how league work, it could make it even more
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: difficult to sign an extension, just because we haven't seen
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: ownership hand out a really mega deal in a long time,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: and so the sort of financial commitment he would demand
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: would be extreme. And then on the part of trade conversations,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: for me, so much of that is dictated by who
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: else is available around the league and how desperate they are.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: When I've talked to executives of other teams, kind of
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: the response I've gotten is that Abrams is not viewed
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: as a top ten asset in baseball, but he's squarely
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: inside the top fifty. And so when you have that
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: sort of player available, who's also going to have that
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: sort of value in the off season, as opposed to
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: just at the trade deadline, the Nationals will be able
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: to wait for a perfect deal. That being said, it
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: still could happen at the deadline, but I think I
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: expect him to be in National throughout the rest of
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six and wouldn't bank on an extension, although again,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: plans can change, love it.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I agree, Yeahran, I don't know if you have more thoughts,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't expect him to be traded anymore.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I certainly hope not would break my heart because we'd
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: love him here in DC. And yeah, I don't know
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: if the extension. I mean, I think the announce would
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: probably like to get it done before CBA talks this
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: off season, but I think it's pretty unlikely.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: Like you said, I think, I mean, most importantly, all
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: the focus should be on the like the extension part
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: of like James like that that would be.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: You know, trying to get that yeah, right, not gonna happen.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: I would say that one.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: That one would be even harder. So I wouldn't hold
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: out hope necessarily, I'll make Dalen haf seconds bill and
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: then I'll be I'll be done here with James. In particular,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: I get that that's scary to maybe not have an extension.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I would also say he's going to be in for
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: at least four more years, and so I wouldn't start
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: worrying yet. That's all I got.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he debuted in twenty four, right, so right, last
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: last season is only a second full year s Yeah,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: they've got plenty of more, you know, team control over
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: James Wood from more used to come. Yeah, I want
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: to press the panic button on any of that sort
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: of stuff now. And I think is Nats fans were
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: just because by the ties as Nats fans by the time,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: because by the time Bryce was twenty one, people were
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: already talking about it. You're like, this kid is twenty
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: one years old, he's been in the league for two years.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: You're asking him to be not just the leader of
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: this team that has by the way, Kevin Franzen most
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: importantly has Kevin Franzen on it, but guys like Jason
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Worth and Ryan Zerman and Jordan Zimmerman's like, and you're
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: asking this kid, we're talking about extending this kid, what
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: his contract looks like. I think is Nats fans, we're
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: just traumatized by that. And you didn't get it done
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: with him. You didn't get it done with Soto, And
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I think Nats fans just won that guy. They want
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: to have a guy that can be their guy, especially
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: because he is, yeah, and he is their guy, to
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: make him their guy.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: Right because he's a DC kid, like an area kid.
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: I think that matters more in building this thing and
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: and look at everything when he like everything should peak it,
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: you know, three four years with this thing not peak,
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: but it should be on the real true right.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: If this is working, yes, and those decisions are very easy.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Then yes, one hundred percent. And anything I talked to,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: any little kid I talked to, it's James Wood Jersey.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: James was my favorite player. The city loves him, like
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: you said, he grew up in the area. He's their guy,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: and he's a special kid, and he's so special, such
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: a special player. Talked about special kid. By the time
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: we've recorded this, he's probably hit like another home run.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Who knows what he looks like. But you know, oh,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: you think we got time for one more question here?
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: With quickly on the note of James would so this
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: is my my favorite? Why I saved it for last?
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Does the sports world of Instagram fan know of Instagram
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: fan accounts? Like does James know about my account? I
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever seen these accounts before, Franny,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I think Spency, you might be familiar with them on
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: those social media but these fan pages, I think this
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: is the first question here that I felt the most
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: equipped to answer. I think my answer would be yes.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: The players are usually pretty familiar with these pages. Like
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: when you post a screenshot of James viewing your story,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: that's the evidence right there. He definitely knows about it
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: to some degree. There is also a follow up question
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: on here that I didn't include in this screenshot, But Kevin,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: you were asked for a follow back and a separate
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: question by James wood Glazer. But I would extend this question,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: extend this question to you two. What do you all
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: feel about these accounts? I mean, if I was a player,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I love a fan page. These guys are just unwavering support,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: regardless of how they play each night. So I think
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: my answer is yes, the players are aware of it
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: and just keep it positive and keep the lighthearted. But
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: you know, bring him up, you know, keep doing what
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: you're doing.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: James wood Blazer, Yeah, I think they'd rather see that
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: than a hundred messages every night about how someone didn't
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: cash their parlay because they went two for three. That's
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: what I'd say.
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: Yes, Uh, did you guys ever see hs marken hsing?
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: He does.
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: Pat Spencer, who plays for the Warriors, was the like
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: the lacrosse player that ended up like being All World
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: and then going and playing the NBA.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: No big deal.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: But this guy like that fan page created so much buzz,
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: Like Steph Curry was all about it.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: So yeah, they know about it. Oh yes it was positive.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yes it was.
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: It was this guy like, you know, basically going home
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: after work every night saying like, uh, hey Jan. His
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: secretary was Jan, Hey Jan, you know, yeah, I got
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: a big day tomorrow, gonna go play against the Oklahoma
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: City Thunder. And he's acted like Pat Spencer coming from
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: work just to go to play like an YMCA ball
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: in the NBA.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: It's you know, so yeah, when you're fun with it, right,
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: it's not just about like hey yeah, James Wood shoe
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: great last night, but like when you're fun with it,
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: have a good time.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Players know, yeah, exactly. I think they they know to
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: answer your question, James Wood Glazier, they definitely know. You
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: see Drake may Lover is getting national coverage on outlets
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: like ESPN and stuff.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: The players going you check out HS Market.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: HS market. I'm going to investigate HS market after this.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I would feel I would feel horrible if I don't
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: include this question too because it comes from my good
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: friend Ben who wrote it on Instagram. I see one more.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: I'm checking.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: When are we going to see Cruz, Hassle, Jarlen, Susana.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: They're ready probably the most equipped talk about those three.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, Franny you definitely attest to it too, you
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: saw him down in the spring. But one moment, when
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: might we see them this season?
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Great answer from Franny, When they're ready. If you want
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: a more specific answer.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is literally when they're ready.
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: This is this is the moment that they like, I'm
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: gonna say, I'll say, like when Paul Tavoni came over
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: and traded and you know, trade Jose Ferr for Harry Ford.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: We're used to the whole like Harry Ford will be
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: the catcher here. No, and there's a lot right, but
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: there's a lot in the development part that he still needed,
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: that they've addressed, and that that he's trying to accomplish.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: And when he's accomplished it and he's.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: Ready, they're here. There's no set agenda, there's no pressure
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: on the guys. The kids already have enough pressure on themselves.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: So we've got to remember, like organizationally, you put the
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: pressure on a kid, it's it's tough. Look, I was
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: a top prospect for the Giants for a long time
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: or not even a long time. It was a short
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: time because they got up to the big leagues quick.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: And it doesn't mean that it's always gonna hit. Didn't
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: hit right away right and and they never said in
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: a time frame and anything, but in your like, players
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: always have a time frame in their mind, like I
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: gotta I'm gonna get there and do all this, And
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: it's like take that pressure from the organization away and
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: the true development starts.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm about as big of a Dylan Cruz fan
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: as they come, which is I want to preface saying
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: everybody knows where I'm at. Yeah, he he has never
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: struggled like this before in his career. You look about it,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: you know, coming through LSU in college and high school,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: every level before this and then double A and triple
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: A before we call him up in twenty twenty four.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: He didn't necessarily light the world on fire at those levels.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Confident if you watch Money Paul, confidence comes before any skill.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Before any skill, you don't have confidence, you have nothing.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Think for him, we know that the raw potential is
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: there when he's ready. Is a great answer to that question,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: ben As, I'm.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: Telling you that this whole thing right here is going
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: to create a monster all the best of ways.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I don't like Kursty, but I think I do believe
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: on Foul Territory Network, So frick yeah, fuck yeah, he's
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: going to be a monster. It might not be this season.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: It might not be for one hundred and sixty two
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: games this season when he gets called up, but I
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: have a lot of faith and confidence it's going to
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: happen this season. And when he does, look out, like
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: you said, for any lookout.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Because that's the right handed bat that you need right
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: behind Woody.
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: Just wait, there's wait, there's a lot of protection that's
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: needed for Woody as we go forward than this. And
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: it's like you could see it happening, but just let
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: it happen. That's the biggest thing. Let it happen, don't
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: force it to happen.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: Heck yeah, that.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Was one of our longer episodes so far. I think
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: that's all the questions that I've pulled up in the
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: show here. Do you guys have any that you pulled
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: from Twitter that I did not bring up on that
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: you want to discuss Hey, yeah, I got discussed.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: What you want to discuss one?
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: Because they get hammered about it all the time on
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: like I'm trying to defend guys.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: But can you keep.
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: Nassim Nunez with an ops of you know, in the
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: high four hundreds in the big leagues and all this stuff.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: The answer is yes to all the bloggers out there, Yes,
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: with double birds going at you, yees like, Because ultimately
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: it comes down to what is the goal this year?
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: The goal is to.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: Find out answers. You don't find out answers in twenty
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: five games, twenty eight games and thirty games. You find
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: it throughout the year. And what we've seen visually from
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: Nasim is there stuff that he has to clean up everywhere?
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, he's a threat on the basis one hundred percent.
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: Is he a threat in the field. He has visually
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: made defense for them way better getting to balls, and
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: there's some errors that are happening because of getting to
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: different balls and you know we've seen in the past
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: and uh, you know, for the time being, Yeah, you
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: can hold a guy like that. Yeah, the goal isn't
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: winning the World Series right now? If you don't have
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: a roster for.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: It right now. Yeah, and you gotta get answers.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: You can be a streaky baseball player, Like that's okay,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that. So you know, guys are
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: gonna slump and guys are gonna have hot stretches. It's April,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: like you said, it's such a small sample size with him,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: And I think if you look back, like a decade
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: ago or fifteen years ago, and you'll get a Nationals team,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Like there's this switch hitter that played second base a
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: lot and you're talking about on the broadcast last night.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: He's my favorite guy growing up, Danny Espinosa. Danny, we
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: gotta get you on the show one day. Yeah, I
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: mean it's like having Espinosa there at second base because
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: you have this guy that has so much range, has
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: a freaking cannon is faster than SB two, so he's
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: gonna cover a little more crazy SB was fast too.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: It's not a Knapp only Danny's game, but Nas is ridiculous,
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: like when he went and stole a third base and
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: second based on two pitches on Wednesday night, Like he's
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: just a spark plug to have in the line up there.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm tired of the nas hate And I'm
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: really tired of the j of Young hate. I hear
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: that from not just the bloggers but some of my
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: close friends, NAT's friends. I'm tired of that he gets
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: on first base, it's a double. If he gets on
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: first eights, is gonna be a double ninety percent of
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, those are two guys. And you're you talked
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: to really confidence earlier.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: You talked about the confidence earlier, right, like the confidence
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: that Blake has given him and the staff has given
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: him two and moving him up and and is he
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: a three hit or no? But you've put the work
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: in and you're showing like so much progress. You know,
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: you know how beneficial that is to an athlete into it.
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: It doesn't matter the industry that you're in, that you're
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: being recognized like you've been asked, you've been, you've been
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: you know, back against the.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Wall type thing. For Jacob Young.
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: You got an unbelievable you know tool as far as
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: the defensive side, and he's gone out like and you're
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: benefited with hitting three, hitting five in the big leagues.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Let's go, yes, let's go big time. Like you said
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: how many times in his life. Has he hit third
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: in the lineup. He was probably hitting fourth in lineups,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: you know, in middle school and elementary school, and people
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: are going, wait, what Jacob Young, power hitter. These guys
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: are the best player for their travel team, to their
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: high school team, to their college team, through to their
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: minor league team, and then that's when the grind starts, baby,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: and they find any way they can get to the
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: big league. So some'm calling you out, Michael, my friend, Michael,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: you're Jacob Young. It needs to stop, Okay, Jacobs an
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: incredible ballplayer, fantastic ballplayer, and a great offensive player too.
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  Speaker 1: You just say, oh, like it's still bases. He's great
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  Speaker 1: in the field with his glove. He is a great
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  Speaker 1: offensive ballplayer too. Blowing up the stats in Wednesday Nights
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  Speaker 1: game at least, I mean he was in twoin fifty four,
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  Speaker 1: coming in, picked up another base, hitting a couple of
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  Speaker 1: arbis in the process.
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  Speaker 5: Guys, sixty two games it took him to get to
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  Speaker 5: twelve RBI last year. Sixty two games. It's twenty games.
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  Speaker 5: He's already at twelve. Good for him.
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  Speaker 1: When this video, yeah, when this video goes live, we're
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  Speaker 1: not going to know the Nats exact record because surprise,
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  Speaker 1: we pre recorded this. But the NAT's just wrapped up
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  Speaker 1: the set against the Braves. Guys, do we have looking
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  Speaker 1: ahead next week? We got Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Who are
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  Speaker 1: we taking on? And Spencer kind of what can you
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  Speaker 1: preview for me?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Frankly, what I'm looking forward to most is
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  Speaker 2: the Monday through Thursday set at City Field against the
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  Speaker 2: New York Mets. I don't know that we know what
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  Speaker 2: the losing streak will look like then, but it's in
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  Speaker 2: quite the precarious spot now, and those games against the
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  Speaker 2: Mets last September were really important. They all of a
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  Speaker 2: sudden feel very important in April again, So that'll be
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  Speaker 2: really fun to watch and we'll be back.
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  Speaker 4: So that's gonna be an interesting. Look.
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  Speaker 5: It's when you catch teams at what time, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and that stretch could be over, you know, we saw
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. Sometimes there's really fun times to watch
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  Speaker 5: the Mets, and right now.
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  Speaker 1: Is oh yeah, always a good time to watch the
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  Speaker 1: Mets when the Nats are taking them on. I'm excited
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  Speaker 1: to see Foster go up against Sodo the way he's
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  Speaker 1: been pitching the season, Like.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not I don't ever say that. No, I'm just
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  Speaker 5: saying like, I don't. I don't ever say that. When
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  Speaker 5: there's a guy like Wan Soto behind there, I'm like.
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  Speaker 1: You know, let's do this. Yeah, I mean just the
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  Speaker 1: way that he's pitching to see that we have a
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  Speaker 1: lefty that could potentially neutralize that bat. That we got
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  Speaker 1: to see him through such incredible things for many years
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  Speaker 1: here in DC. It should be a really fun set.
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  Speaker 1: But Monday, we'll be bringing you a recap of the
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  Speaker 1: weekend series and then also previewing that Mets series for you.
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  Speaker 1: More episodes on Wednesday and Friday. If you're still listening.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sticking around. I really had
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  Speaker 1: fun with this.
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  Speaker 4: Guys.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna have to do more fan bag episodes in
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  Speaker 1: the future. This was fun. I enjoyed it. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna do it for us today. We'll see you back
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  Speaker 1: on Monday when the Nats are ready to take on
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  Speaker 1: the Mets and enjoy your weekend. Everybody see it
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  Speaker 2: And