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Full Show Podcast: 11 December 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
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  Speaker 1: Early Erdshow with our the Supercenter explore our the successories
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  Speaker 1: and servicing all in one news talks.
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  Speaker 2: That'd be a scivoting to you and welcome to the program,
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  Speaker 2: my Andrew Dickens. I'm here until six and coming up
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  Speaker 2: over the next hour. The Cancer Control Agency has dropped
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  Speaker 2: its twenty twenty five report, So how are we doing
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  Speaker 2: in the fight against this cruel enemy? That story for
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  Speaker 2: you In five Immigrants wanting to live in New Zealand,
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  Speaker 2: We're up seven percent last month, while departures were down
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  Speaker 2: fourteen percent. So are we looking better and better in
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  Speaker 2: the world's size? Hey, and what's happening with the brain train?
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  Speaker 2: Paul Spoonley talks to us in ten Are we really
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  Speaker 2: losing business because of our summer holidays? And while Australia
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  Speaker 2: has done it, is it our turn for a social
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  Speaker 2: media ban? We'll have that story a many more, including
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  Speaker 2: Mitch McCann out of the United States of America, correspondens
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  Speaker 2: from right around New Zealand News as it breaks, and
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  Speaker 2: you can have your say by texting the number of
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  Speaker 2: ninety two ninety two and a small charge applies.
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  Speaker 1: The agenda.
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  Speaker 2: So it's seven minutes half to five. It's Thursday, the
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  Speaker 2: eleventh of December, and Ukraine is expected to hand over
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  Speaker 2: its revised peace plan to the US negotiators today.
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  Speaker 3: President Lansky has given some broader details. What we know
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  Speaker 3: is that there's more than one document. There's the sort
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  Speaker 3: of main peace proposal, which we think has been whittled
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  Speaker 3: down to about twenty points. There's a document concerning security guarantees,
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  Speaker 3: and there's one on the reconstruction and sort of restoring
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  Speaker 3: the economic potential of Ukraine.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Donald Trump's return to doing rallies again, this time
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  Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania over the night, where he tried to convince
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  Speaker 2: people that the American economy is just fantastic. It's brilliant,
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  Speaker 2: It's never been better. And he fired shots at the Dems.
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  Speaker 4: They caused the high prices, and we're bringing them down.
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  Speaker 5: It's a simple message. They have a new word, you know,
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  Speaker 5: those have a hoax. The new word is affordability.
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  Speaker 4: So they look at the camera and they say, this
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  Speaker 4: erection is all about affordability.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I will talk to Mitch mccaenn about this
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  Speaker 2: in about half an hour's time. The daughter of this
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  Speaker 2: year's Nobel Peace Prize winner, Maria Corina Machado, has stepped
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  Speaker 2: in to accept the award on her mum's behalf now.
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  Speaker 2: The Institute praised Machado for her fight to ship Venezuela
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  Speaker 2: from a dictatorship to a democracy, and she's actually been
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  Speaker 2: in hiding since the country's disputed twenty twenty four election,
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  Speaker 2: which is why the daughter stood up.
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  Speaker 6: But although she has not been able to be here
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  Speaker 6: and take part in this ceremony, I must say that
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  Speaker 6: my mother never breaks a promise, and that is why,
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  Speaker 6: with all the joy in my heart, I can tell
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  Speaker 6: you that in just a few hours we will be
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  Speaker 6: able to embrace her here in Oslo after sixteen months
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  Speaker 6: living in.
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  Speaker 2: Here, and finally, a man in Sweden has successfully trained
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  Speaker 2: an octopus to play the piano. Now you want to
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  Speaker 2: hear it, don't you? I go good one bum note
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  Speaker 2: I reckon. The fellow who did the training was a
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  Speaker 2: guy called Matthias Krantz. He did it over six months.
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  Speaker 2: He built a special tank with a piano for his octopus.
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  Speaker 2: The octopus's name is Taco and he used crab meat
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  Speaker 2: to get him to play the piano keys he wanted,
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  Speaker 2: but why didn't he get him to play the Beatles
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  Speaker 2: and Octopus's Garden? I know it is now nine after five.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on Early Edition with r V Supercenter explore
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  Speaker 1: r v's accessories and servicing all in one news talks
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  Speaker 1: it'd be.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a bit of noise round regarding employment disputes
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  Speaker 2: at the Monaco or Urban Maori Authority. And the noise
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  Speaker 2: is coming from the right wing media who claim that
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  Speaker 2: the legacy media that would be me and others were
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  Speaker 2: burying the story. And it wouldn't be buried if it
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  Speaker 2: involved a politician from the right hand right side of
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  Speaker 2: the house. Because it's all about Willie Jackson. You're unaware
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  Speaker 2: of the story. Here we go. Willie Jackson is being
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  Speaker 2: accused of using his own political power to silence staff,
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  Speaker 2: to sideline union organizers, and to bury a damaging review
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  Speaker 2: that found misconduct by his wife, Manico Urban Mary Authority
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  Speaker 2: CEO Tario Rangahui. The fact that the authority is run
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  Speaker 2: by his wife has led to accusations of cronyism. Now,
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  Speaker 2: Matt mccarton got involved through his one union position and
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  Speaker 2: he's outraged because he tried to go in and have
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  Speaker 2: a word, but his group was issued trespassed notices and
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  Speaker 2: he's outraged because Willie is a former union man himself
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  Speaker 2: and a labor politician, and Matt mccarton can't believe it.
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  Speaker 2: So he complained to the Speaker, Jerry Brownlee and the
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  Speaker 2: leader of the Labour Party, Chris Hipkins, and had no
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  Speaker 2: luck there. Hipkins said, well, it's not a matter for
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  Speaker 2: the party. It's private business, and Brownlee may say something
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  Speaker 2: about it next Tuesday, but Jerry's very busy right now
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  Speaker 2: with all the urgency. So anyway, Matt McCartin then ran
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  Speaker 2: off to camp Slater and also to the platform and
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  Speaker 2: they talked about it. And they've used it obviously to
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  Speaker 2: attack Mary and to att the media. Now it's all
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  Speaker 2: a bit murky. But is it a big story? Well, firstly,
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  Speaker 2: of course, nepotism is not against the law, and the
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  Speaker 2: reality of many Malori organizations is that family is heavily involved.
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  Speaker 2: You may not like it, so you may not approve
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  Speaker 2: of it. But there we go, Maldy a bigger far no,
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  Speaker 2: big onfar.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 2: They always have been. It's not a legal though. The
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  Speaker 2: bearing of the review has also happened legally. Willie may
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  Speaker 2: have pressured the board to ignore the review, but again
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  Speaker 2: nothing illegal. And he may have stacked the board, but
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  Speaker 2: people are stacking the boards all over the place, So
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  Speaker 2: at its essence, it's the story of a workplace keeping
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  Speaker 2: unions out of the workplace and a man stacking a board,
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  Speaker 2: which is a thing. However, as I've said, that's happening
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  Speaker 2: in multiple workplaces all the time. This is not a
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  Speaker 2: Darlene Tana story yet. And by the way, Darling Tana
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  Speaker 2: was from the left and it was breafactly covered by
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  Speaker 2: the legacy media. So it's nothing about whether you're left
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  Speaker 2: or right. It's whether it's a story. It is a story,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not a big one, and that's why the
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  Speaker 2: mainstream media haven't run with it. But they are aware
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  Speaker 2: of it, and it may still expand being a much
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  Speaker 2: bigger headline. So there you go. I'm negacy media and
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned it, and I'll tell you what. I'll keep
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  Speaker 2: following it zib twelve after five. I have so many
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  Speaker 2: friends at the moment batling cancer. I have three people
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  Speaker 2: I know going through chemotherapy, and there are all people
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  Speaker 2: who have worked with me on news talks hemb which
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  Speaker 2: I find is shocking, but I mean it's it's what
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  Speaker 2: it is. Cancer is the thing. The Cancer Control Agency
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  Speaker 2: is now produced as twenty twenty five report on how
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  Speaker 2: we're battling cancer, and we all want to battle it's
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  Speaker 2: a terrible, terrible enemy. So how are we doing. We'll
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  Speaker 2: have Nikolacomb, the chief executive for the Southern Cancer Society
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  Speaker 2: on this next, It's News Talks.
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  Speaker 1: Heb the first word on the News of the Day
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  Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickins and r V Supercenter explore
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  Speaker 2: It's got a Raster five. Now the Cancer Control Agents
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  Speaker 2: he has dropped us twenty twenty five report and they
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  Speaker 2: have conclusions, and their conclusions is we need more funding
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  Speaker 2: and we need earlier detection. Now reckon cancer cases will
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  Speaker 2: climb from just over thirty thousand this year to more
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  Speaker 2: than forty five thousand by twenty forty four, and half
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  Speaker 2: of those cases, they say could be prevented if we
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  Speaker 2: cut tobacco, dial back the booze, and got serious about
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  Speaker 2: healthy living and sun safety. So joining me now to
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  Speaker 2: talk about this is Nicola Kerman. Nicola is the chief
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  Speaker 2: executive for the Southern Cancer Society. Hello Nicoler, excuse me,
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  Speaker 2: Hello Nicola.
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  Speaker 7: Good morning Andrew.
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  Speaker 2: So how do these numbers compare to other countries. Do
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  Speaker 2: we have more cancer in New Zealand than other places
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  Speaker 2: or is this within the international standard?
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  Speaker 7: Great question. Look to New Zealand is unfortunately leading the
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  Speaker 7: way in areas that we wouldn't want to be leader in.
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  Speaker 7: So in terms of melanoma, we lead the world in
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  Speaker 7: rate of diagnosis around melanoma. But there's a lot of
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  Speaker 7: good news in this report. There's good news, but we
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  Speaker 7: can do better. I think some of the things that
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  Speaker 7: are really encouraging about this report is that our survival
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  Speaker 7: rates are increasing, so that means the likelihood of someone
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  Speaker 7: in New Zealand doing of cancer is declining and the
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  Speaker 7: chances of them surviving grather than five years posted diagnosis
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  Speaker 7: has also improved. But generally people in New Zealand are
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  Speaker 7: living longer with cancer. Yes, they are in other OECD
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  Speaker 7: countries as well, But I would say that other OECD
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  Speaker 7: countries that we compare ourselves to are doing far more
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  Speaker 7: in the cancer prevention space than we are, and therefore
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  Speaker 7: they are preventing more cancer than we are in New Zealand.
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  Speaker 2: And is that because of more funding, because you said
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  Speaker 2: that in your conclusion earlier detection more funding. Are we underfunded?
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  Speaker 7: Yes, I'd say we are in key areas, and those
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  Speaker 7: key areas would be around access to medicines. Look, we
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  Speaker 7: had a significant increase in cancer medicines. The pharmac budget
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  Speaker 7: was increased by six hundred and four million. We had
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  Speaker 7: an uplift and that's resulted in more lives being saved.
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  Speaker 7: But we can't stop there and do these one off
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  Speaker 7: you know. I think we've got to get into ourselves
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  Speaker 7: into a position in New Zealand where we're continually investing
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  Speaker 7: in cancer and in health as opposed to reactively investing.
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  Speaker 7: One of the things that this report does show is
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  Speaker 7: there the things we're doing in the country that is
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  Speaker 7: that are working well. So let's keep doing it. Let's
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  Speaker 7: not do it as a one off or fund it
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  Speaker 7: as a one off. Your screening is an example of
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  Speaker 7: that and prevention.
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  Speaker 2: And that is within our own orbits and we can
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  Speaker 2: do that. That's up to us taking personal responsibility. But
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  Speaker 2: I need to get down to the point of what
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  Speaker 2: kind of level of extra funding might we need to
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  Speaker 2: help you achieve these goals.
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  Speaker 7: Well, look, I think there's three key areas that this
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  Speaker 7: government could fund or the next government, and they are
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  Speaker 7: the introduction of lung cancer screening. This report shows that
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  Speaker 7: one of the biggest areas that we could have an
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  Speaker 7: impact on is lung cancer. Your half of all cancer
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  Speaker 7: deaths are.
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  Speaker 2: From five Again, what sort of level of funding will
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  Speaker 2: be needed? What's sort of money?
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  Speaker 7: So there's actually a business case going to Treasury probably
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  Speaker 7: are right about now or in the next couple of
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  Speaker 7: weeks to funds a lung cancer screening program. So to
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  Speaker 7: establish that, we're probably talking anywhere between fifteen to twenty
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  Speaker 7: million for a lung cancer to introduce a lung cancer
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  Speaker 7: screening program in New Zealand. I think the country country
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  Speaker 7: knows bell cancer screening. We could say significant numbers of
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  Speaker 7: lives if we started screening people for bel cancer at
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  Speaker 7: age fifty. And I know the government know that. I
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  Speaker 7: know they're making good steps. That's been reduced from sixty
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  Speaker 7: to fifty eight already, but we've got to have a
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  Speaker 7: plan to keep producing that getting that down to fifty.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Nikola, thank you so very very much. That
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  Speaker 2: is Nikola Comb from the Southern Kansas Society. And another
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  Speaker 2: day to another call for funding. Hey, and on that
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  Speaker 2: awkan's reeling after the random stabbing of a nice man
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  Speaker 2: on a bus by a complete and crazy stranger, and
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  Speaker 2: it's put the he bgb's up commuters, and it made
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  Speaker 2: the news last night. It's really understandable. Of course, it's
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  Speaker 2: everyone's worst fear to lose your life to a stranger
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  Speaker 2: in a public place for no reason, and it's put
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  Speaker 2: people off taking a bus. Remember it could have been anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: It's happened before in supermarkets in Auckland and Dunedin. And
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  Speaker 2: sometimes life is random, so it's not about the buses,
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  Speaker 2: it's about the crazy person. And there we had Daisie
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  Speaker 2: Simpson on the news last night, or con Deputy mayor
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  Speaker 2: calling for more money to support our mental health services.
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  Speaker 2: And remember ideally the established had never been on our
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  Speaker 2: streets at all, but to make that happened as a
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  Speaker 2: complex task and people will always fall through the cracks,
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  Speaker 2: and as we're told time and time again, there's no money.
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  Speaker 2: But you do have to ask a question where the
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  Speaker 2: better mental health services? Yeah, is not something that we
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  Speaker 2: need to skip on. It's a need to have, isn't
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  Speaker 2: it not a nice to have? Five twenty get ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Of the headlines on early edition with Andrew Dickens and
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  Speaker 1: R The Supercenter explore R these successories and servicing all
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  Speaker 1: in one news talk set me.
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  Speaker 2: It is five twenty two. Could the worst of the
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  Speaker 2: brain train be over? Are we actually a nice place
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  Speaker 2: to live? Are people wanting to stay? And are people coming?
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  Speaker 5: Well?
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  Speaker 2: Stat's New Zealand figures for October so the migrant arrivals
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  Speaker 2: were up seven percent on last year, migrant departures down
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  Speaker 2: fourteen percent. People are coming and people are staying. The
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  Speaker 2: monthly net migration gain was three thy six hundred compared
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  Speaker 2: to a gain of sixteen hundred in September. So em
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  Speaker 2: emeritus professor and Massa University sociologist Paul Soon Paul Spoonley,
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  Speaker 2: excuse me, joins me this morning. Going to you, Paul,
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  Speaker 2: is that it is at the end of their brain
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  Speaker 2: drain at.
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  Speaker 8: Good morning, andrews. Yes, we've turned a bit of a corner,
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  Speaker 8: it appears, so I'm optimistic that we're beginning to see
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  Speaker 8: it plateauing, if not turning around.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so first let's look at the migrant arrivals up
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  Speaker 2: seven percent. Where are these people coming from and why
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  Speaker 2: are they coming?
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  Speaker 8: The big three countries are India, China, and the Philippines
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  Speaker 8: in that order. Indian arrivals tend to dominate most feasic categories.
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  Speaker 8: I would say one thing about the Chinese arrivals, and
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  Speaker 8: that is for every two Chinese that come to New Zealand,
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  Speaker 8: one returns to China. So that's not quite the turnaround
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  Speaker 8: for some of the other groups. The Filipinos are big
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  Speaker 8: and we certainly have seen them arrive in numbers in
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  Speaker 8: the last decade. There is one very interesting bit to
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  Speaker 8: all of this, and that is that in terms of
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  Speaker 8: UK migrants, we're seeing more leaves than arrive.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so let's go to the migrant departures. The people
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  Speaker 2: running away from this place down fourteen percent. So does
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  Speaker 2: this mean that they can see better times around the corner?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: I think so. I think so. There is a butt
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  Speaker 8: Andrew and the but is the New Zealanders. So we're
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  Speaker 8: still seeing more than seventy thousand New Zealanders leave on
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  Speaker 8: a twelve month cycle, and that loss is still hanging
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  Speaker 8: around that forty five thousand mark. So the pull of
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  Speaker 8: Australia is still very very strong. But in terms of
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  Speaker 8: migrants non New Zealand migrant departures. That's looking a bit healthier.
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  Speaker 2: Well, a bit of good news for this Thursday morning,
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  Speaker 2: and I thank you so much, Professor Paul Spinley. This
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  Speaker 2: is News Talk Set B five twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Five, the early edition full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 2: Me, said B five twenty seven. I'mandrew Dickens. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the story that's been getting my goat all this week
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  Speaker 2: has been the accusation that New Zealanders take too long
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  Speaker 2: a holiday over the Christmas January period. And this story
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  Speaker 2: just keeps on burbling along. It started on the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: We've got business owners and economists, Simon Bridges and talk
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  Speaker 2: back callers all alleging that the country closes down for
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  Speaker 2: the month and it kills our productivity. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's absolutely no proof of that, and all these allegations
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  Speaker 2: seem a little better than reckens. And let's remember the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the Christian world are also off for Christmas
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  Speaker 2: New Year, so we're not losing competitiveness over that week.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be now. And of course, remember the northern Hemisphere
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  Speaker 2: closes down for August while we're here working our butts off.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe some of the people moaning about the summer break
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  Speaker 2: have lost track of the reality for most New Zealand workers.
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  Speaker 2: For most of us, the military minimum statuary leave for
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  Speaker 2: most New Zealanders is just four weeks after a year
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  Speaker 2: of employment, twenty precious days that we then have to
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  Speaker 2: eke out over twelve months. There are four big school
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  Speaker 2: holiday periods parents need to think about that need to
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  Speaker 2: take a break. For most New Zealanders, a big summer
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  Speaker 2: holiday might last until the second week of January, and
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  Speaker 2: that's it. And the longer you take over some of
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  Speaker 2: the longer you have to work over the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the year. Only a very few people casually skive off
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  Speaker 2: for January, the people who have successful businesses, who have
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  Speaker 2: managers in place, the semi retired, and all those superstars
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  Speaker 2: whose success during the year grants them privilege. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: looking at you, Mike Costking and the other group of
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  Speaker 2: the lawyers. Partly because the courts closed down now while
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  Speaker 2: judges have nice summer holidays that only allowed a weekened
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  Speaker 2: spring during the rest of the year, so the lawyers
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  Speaker 2: can't work, so they bugger off to their beautiful batches.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why lawyers were the most concerned at the
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  Speaker 2: dropping of the new resource management system this week because
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  Speaker 2: there's a six week submission period and that means the
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  Speaker 2: lawyers are going to have to work all summer like
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  Speaker 2: the rest of us. That's why they're grumpy. Five twenty nine.
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  Speaker 2: In the next half hour, we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 2: the social media band in Australia and whether it's time
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  Speaker 2: to do it now in New Zealand. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: talk to a feller from ACT who's driving along the
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  Speaker 2: possible legislation and Nicholas Reckins, we are way too woke
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  Speaker 2: for a social ban for kids and simply do not
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  Speaker 2: have the OZ guts in any way. So you saw
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  Speaker 2: what happened with Australia and you've had a day or
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  Speaker 2: so to actually digest it, do you think the same
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  Speaker 2: thing should happen here? Yesterday when we were talking about
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people were saying, well, the best thing
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  Speaker 2: about it is it gives parents a tool saying get
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  Speaker 2: off to social media. You know it's illegal, and that's
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  Speaker 2: actually the best way to police it. So what do
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: you think you can text me ninety two naughty to
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: do so that Mitch me can and all our correspondents
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: from right around New Zealand on Early edition with News Talk.
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  Speaker 1: ZMB on your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition
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  Speaker 1: with Andrew Dickens and are the super Center explore these
• 17:58
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  Speaker 2: The world and be the extended family. Here comes Christmas
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: is at my place this year again. That's gonna be
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: a big day of work. It's twenty three to six
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: and I'm Andrew Dickens, social media band in New Zealand.
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  Speaker 2: What do you reckon? We're going to talk to palms
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Eat Palma from Act about it and she's got some
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: thoughts about the whole thing. I asked you, what's your thoughts?
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Textas says, I don't believe we should introduce a social
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: media ban in this country. It's not up to this
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: government to raise our kids. Parents need to take accountability
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: and stop being lazy. And then what's happening after that?
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: You know, one step after another, little by little, bit
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: by bit doesn't mean a digital ID will they be
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: praying on all of us? So thank you for your
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: text and my text. It's the parent's job to not
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: buy kids a smartphot and to turn the Wi Fi
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: off at home. So palms heat to palma on this
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: a little bit later on, the whole cancers thing is
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: a thing, and as I said, four three of my
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: very closest friends are actually having a battle against it.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Almost all of them had went straight to stage four
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: once they found that they did have the cancer. Yes,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: they could have actually checked earlier, but actually no, that's
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: not right. Two of them found it because of a
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: regular check, and that's a breast cancer. And most famously,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: my friend Mel, you probably know Mel, who one day
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: was at a pilates class, had a blood test. Next
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: day she's in hospital getting chemo for leukemia. And the
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: thing about that is it's curable, but it's curable with
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: stem cell therapy. And the thing about stem cell therapy
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: is it's very expensive and so it's somewhat rationed. So
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: the longer she has to wait for funding to get
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: the stem cell therapy means another session of chemotherapy that
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: she has to go through, another session of being in
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: the hospital, more money being spent.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: There.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: You wonder whether it's a false economy, don't you? It
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: is twenty one to six. Well, the country we go
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Callen Procter joins us from Otaga. Good morning morning Andrew.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: You go to warning for Otago boaties, Yeah, look we do.
• 20:09
  Speaker 10: They could soon be navigating some new safety rules as
• 20:11
  Speaker 10: a fresh by law that's been proposed to regulate vessel
• 20:15
  Speaker 10: movements and speed limits across our waterways and Otago, So
• 20:19
  Speaker 10: that includes the Busy Lakes, Dunston, Warnaka and Hawia's. The
• 20:24
  Speaker 10: key changes include new anchoring rules, a mandatory automatic ID
• 20:28
  Speaker 10: tracking system for commercial vehicles with twelve or more passengers,
• 20:32
  Speaker 10: and all vessels over fifteen meters. Harbourmaster Steve Rushbrooks told
• 20:36
  Speaker 10: us that most of these existing or most of the
• 20:38
  Speaker 10: existing by law will remain with just a few important
• 20:40
  Speaker 10: additions and submissions are open now on this through until
• 20:44
  Speaker 10: jan twelve.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: How's your weather?
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: Some heavy afternoon showers with thunderstorms and hail expected today
• 20:51
  Speaker 10: seventeen the high and I thank you.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Jamie Cunningham joins me now from Canterbury. Hello Jamie, good morning,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: and we've got business confidence figures out.
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  Speaker 11: Yes, so Business Canterbury's latest survey shows seventy five percent
• 21:02
  Speaker 11: of businesses are expecting stronger economic conditions and improved financial
• 21:07
  Speaker 11: performance next year. However, confidence in the ability to bounce
• 21:10
  Speaker 11: back from disruption is slipping away. Chief executive Leanne Watson
• 21:14
  Speaker 11: says it's been a tough five years for business, with
• 21:17
  Speaker 11: debt mounting and growing concerns about AI. She says the
• 21:20
  Speaker 11: business community needs certainty, consistency and conditions to help turn
• 21:25
  Speaker 11: confidence into productivity. Watson says if the cost of living
• 21:28
  Speaker 11: comes down, there will hopefully be more certainty in the year.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Acute, how's your weather?
• 21:34
  Speaker 11: Becoming partly cloudy in the morning, then showers developing in
• 21:37
  Speaker 11: the evening, some heavy with thunderstorms and hail possible as
• 21:40
  Speaker 11: well in a high of nineteen And.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: To Wellington we go, Max Tol, Good morning to you.
• 21:44
  Speaker 12: Good morning.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I think we should start actually with your weather because
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: it's day two of the test and it was an
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: interesting day yesterday. What's your weather like?
• 21:51
  Speaker 12: Yeah, you'd have to have said it was perfect barring
• 21:54
  Speaker 12: one very unfortunate injury. Mainly find today pretty much the
• 21:57
  Speaker 12: same as yesterday with some later SOUTHERLYASA getting up into
• 22:00
  Speaker 12: the twenties again.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Come on, New Zealand. Now you've got a couple of
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: locals being honored at Victoria Universally today.
• 22:07
  Speaker 12: Yeah, two alumni being presented with honorary doctorates. That's a
• 22:11
  Speaker 12: business leader Dame Theresa Gathing and the legal luminary Sir
• 22:16
  Speaker 12: David Carruthers being honored for their contributions in their respective fields.
• 22:20
  Speaker 12: A Gathing, of course, previously CEO Telecom co founded My
• 22:24
  Speaker 12: Food Bag, but is specifically being praised for her push
• 22:27
  Speaker 12: for social equity. She's founded a lot of nonprofits worked
• 22:30
  Speaker 12: with the SPCA as well. In terms of her business credentials,
• 22:35
  Speaker 12: they hardly need stating she once made Fortune's fifty Most
• 22:38
  Speaker 12: Powerful Women in World Business list at one time. Caruthers
• 22:43
  Speaker 12: himself will be awarded a Doctor of Law for his
• 22:45
  Speaker 12: long serving career stints as a Family and Youth Court
• 22:48
  Speaker 12: judge in Wellington at one point as well the longest
• 22:51
  Speaker 12: serving member of the New Zealand legal community. Carruthers also
• 22:54
  Speaker 12: has been the chair of the IPCA and the Parole Board.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Great stuff and congratulations to all, and I thank you
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: would neither written. Man who joins us from Auckland High
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Good morning. So new insights gained after the death of
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: a man at Murduway Beach.
• 23:06
  Speaker 13: Yes, now look this happened earlier this year. You remember this,
• 23:09
  Speaker 13: Sandre and it brought attention to a danger not immediately
• 23:12
  Speaker 13: obvious to some beach goers. So twenty eight year old
• 23:14
  Speaker 13: Caine Gofton, also referred to as Cane Watson and previous
• 23:18
  Speaker 13: reporting now he died in hospital back in August, two
• 23:21
  Speaker 13: days after a sand dune collapsed on him while he
• 23:23
  Speaker 13: was digging a hole. So a coroner has come out
• 23:25
  Speaker 13: and has found that Gofton died from complications of cardiaca
• 23:28
  Speaker 13: rescue to entrapment and asphyxia. They've found that, look, the
• 23:32
  Speaker 13: twenty eight year old's own actions ultimately led to his death,
• 23:35
  Speaker 13: so there's no evidence that actions or inactions of others
• 23:38
  Speaker 13: could have changed the outcome. But the coroner is saying
• 23:41
  Speaker 13: to everyone, look, heading into summer, obviously everyone's going to
• 23:44
  Speaker 13: go to the beach, and it's important that everyone's aware
• 23:47
  Speaker 13: of the risks of sand dunes, which you know, they
• 23:50
  Speaker 13: can become unstable without water.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Of course, of course, no tunneling, kids, no tunneling.
• 23:54
  Speaker 13: Exactly.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: How's the weather fine?
• 23:56
  Speaker 13: Apart from morning cloud charts of an afternoon shower, still warm, hot, hot,
• 23:59
  Speaker 13: hot twenty six and.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I thank you. Meanwhile, in Sydney, their new Sydney Plan
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: is out and they say that there's going to be
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: six and a half million people living in Sydney by
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: twenty forty five. Now that's up by one point two
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: million from how many live there right now, what is
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: it five point seven on? So how are they going
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: to cope? The new Draft Sydney Plan is out and
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: its strategy to cope with these extra one point two
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: million people is to organize the fast growing population around
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: forty interconnected centers to provide the most jobs and services.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: They'll be spread across the city, anchored by Sydney and
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Paramatta CBDs, also the emerging city of Bradfield, which is
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: out by the new Western Sydney Airport. But the thing is,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: yeah that what they're saying is intensify around transport harbs.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Sound familiar, That's exactly what all comes doing. It is
• 24:48
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  Speaker 2: Business thirteen to Sex to America, We go match we can.
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  Speaker 5: Good morning to you, Andrew, Good morning, how are you well.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: John Trump did a rally overnight in Mount Pecono, Pennsylvania
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: for ninety minutes, and he tried to convince the people
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: that the economy is okay.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. Donald Trump traveled there.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: I tried to tout the success of the economy at
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: the moment, he's trying to convince Americans that things are
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: perhaps better than they might seem to be. And this
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: is the first of a series of rallies that Donald
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Trump's going to be doing across the United States. And
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: part of it is also because Donald Trump has been
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: accused of spending too much time dealing with overseas conflicts
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: than the cost of living here in the United States. Now,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: like all his speeches, he wandered across a range of topics.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: During ninety minutes, he moved away from the teleprompter and
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: talked about all different things. It has to be said, Andrew,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: the stock market has been soaring here in the US,
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: and we are seeing complete tariff chaos, chaos yet that
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Americans are still feeling the pinch of the cost of living.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: There's a new pole from Gallup that's come out in
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: the last couple of days.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Twenty one percent of Americans described economic conditions as excellent
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: or good.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: That's not a high number saying they are poor.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: So Donald Trump has this difficult task now trying to
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: get convince people, you know, his own supporters that things
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: are better than they might seem to be exactly.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: And I saw in that poll also fifty five percent
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: of Americans blame the Trump administration for the high prices
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: at the grocery store. So it's not a cover for
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: him yet, but it's certainly getting to be a pain
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: in the bum.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: We have new plans in America to scrutinize visitors social media.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, Andrew. This is a story that could
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: affect New Zealanders coming to the United States. A massive change.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Customs and Border Protection here in the US has requested
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: feedback on a new proposal that would see travelers from
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: visa waiver countries like New Zealand's undergo a review of
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: their social media for up to five years. Now, if
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: you visit the US currently as a traveler, you can
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: apply for what's called in esther and many of our
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: listeners will have done that before.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: It's basic information you have to provide.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: This may require you to provide social media and the
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: nation for the last five years.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: So a massive change is the US cracks down on immigration,
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: and I thank you, Mitch mcchannon.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: That's only going to make things even more even more
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: time delays getting into the States, it's eleven.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: To six youth dogs'd be so in the wake.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Of Australia booting under sixteens off social media, our own
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: government's Education and Workforce Committee has dropped its interim report
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: on youth online harm and it's recommended cross party support
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: on a potential age ban here and the creation of
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: a new online regulator. So Dr Palmjek Palmer represents Act
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: on that committee, the Education and Workforce Committee, and Palmjeek
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: joins me, now, hello, hello, So are you in support
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: of the age band?
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: So what I would say is that you will see
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: that we have a differing view in the report. And
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: the reason for the different view is that we felt
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: as the parties are the parties that is National and
• 28:56
  Speaker 9: Labor are getting ahead of themselves because there is more
• 28:59
  Speaker 9: work that needs to be and so what we saw
• 29:02
  Speaker 9: was that they were already jumping to policy recommendations talking
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: about the band.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: So what work needs to be done? Do we need
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: to be just sitting back and just watching whether the
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Australian thing works?
• 29:17
  Speaker 9: So definitely, I would say to my parliamentary colleague that
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: we need to take a deep breath. We should watch
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: the role out of this policy in Australia because this
• 29:27
  Speaker 9: is a natural experiment happening and we had this great
• 29:30
  Speaker 9: opportunity to learn from them in real time. So we
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: should not be rushing for a policy of ban because
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: in my view, it would be kind of irresponsible for
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: us to do that because we can learn from Australia.
• 29:43
  Speaker 9: And also already I'm seeing some reports in media about
• 29:46
  Speaker 9: young people trying to get around the band. So the
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: ultimate goal is to reduce harm, but with what is happening,
• 29:53
  Speaker 9: we know that we will be pushing young people into unregulated,
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: harder to monitor, darker spaces of Internet, so there will
• 30:01
  Speaker 9: be more suffering, suffering, more suffering and more secretly.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: So in that case, you need an online regulator, and
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: that's been proposed in this report. So what would an
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: online regulator do?
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: So the idea of this report was actually to summarize
• 30:15
  Speaker 9: what we have heard and also summarized the advice. So
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: the idea of this report and trim Report was not
• 30:21
  Speaker 9: to provide any solutions or recommendations, and that is what
• 30:24
  Speaker 9: our concern is. So we need to do more work
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: in the Select Committee to ensure that we come to
• 30:30
  Speaker 9: right kind of conclusions. And if you asked me, I
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: trust then as a solution at this stage what I'm
• 30:37
  Speaker 9: seeing in Australia, my response will be now and we
• 30:41
  Speaker 9: need to understand more what this regulator would do, because
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: we need to understand what the powers of this regulator
• 30:46
  Speaker 9: will be. So what I'm saying is that at this
• 30:49
  Speaker 9: stage we needed to actually just summarize submissions and summarize advice.
• 30:56
  Speaker 9: But seeing that some parties have jumped to policy recommendations,
• 31:01
  Speaker 9: actually that compromise.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, exactly, Can I just summarize? Can I just
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: summarize it? Therefore that you and act say, ty Hoe,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: let's have a look at what's happening, and you don't rush.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: But you're saying that National and Labor they're they're rushing
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: in fact too quickly because they feel it's a positive thing.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: It's a good vote killer, vote win.
• 31:19
  Speaker 9: So our concern is this that the ultimate goal of
• 31:22
  Speaker 9: this inquiry was to provide some kind of solutions. So
• 31:25
  Speaker 9: if we identify some risks, we have to come up
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: with solutions. Just like cars, we know they're dangerous, we
• 31:30
  Speaker 9: need seed bets, we need road rules, so we need
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: to do something, but that doesn't mean we jump to
• 31:34
  Speaker 9: this conclusion of a pen or a regulator. That was
• 31:37
  Speaker 9: not the purpose of this report. So you'll remember that
• 31:40
  Speaker 9: when I wrote to the Selectimitty, the plan was to
• 31:43
  Speaker 9: provide a report in November, and then the Selecumity realizes
• 31:46
  Speaker 9: it's actually a bigger task than it was imagined, and
• 31:49
  Speaker 9: that's why this support is split into two parts. The
• 31:52
  Speaker 9: first part was about submissions and advice, not jumping to
• 31:56
  Speaker 9: policy recommendations without getting proper advice on solutions and recommendations
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: and how they would work.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Ange I thank you Panji Parma as the exposperson who's
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: on that committee, and says tie home of it. Scott
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: writes many adults do not know how to use social
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: media safely and appropriately.
• 32:13
  Speaker 12: Either.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: The focus should be on education, as this is something
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: that's not going to go away. Teach our children, they
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: are our future, says Scott. It's now seven minutes to.
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  Speaker 2: I'd be mentioned earlier. The Christmas is at mine, and
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Taylor writes, how many people at yours? Andrew and I've
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: done a bit of a total. I think about twenty five.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Taylor writes, my partner and I host this year forty
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: two people.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: Too many?
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: A good morning, I know, forty two people. There's so
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: much work out on a Christmas Day.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is.
• 32:53
  Speaker 14: And this is the thing is that that actually doing
• 32:55
  Speaker 14: christ like hosting anybody, is actually really tough work because
• 32:59
  Speaker 14: you've got to get every thing prepared, You've got the
• 33:00
  Speaker 14: mental load of it. Then you're actually doing it. You're
• 33:03
  Speaker 14: the host, You're not getting to sit down, and then
• 33:04
  Speaker 14: after they all leave, you the one cleaning up.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: How many times have you actually hosted a party and
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: then you realize you've not drunk anything or eaten anything
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: because you've been too busy tiding everything.
• 33:12
  Speaker 14: Absolutely so many times.
• 33:13
  Speaker 8: I see.
• 33:13
  Speaker 14: My family is really good about it because I've got
• 33:16
  Speaker 14: the youngest kids in the family, so we don't we
• 33:18
  Speaker 14: don't have to host.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: And my mom is awesome.
• 33:20
  Speaker 14: She comes around, just does all the stuff to help
• 33:22
  Speaker 14: me out.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: So I love your mom you you, I do love
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: your mon No, my mom, I know your mam, and
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I do love it. And the other hour of the
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: problem is that Helen's side of the family, she's the
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: youngest of seven. Yeah, oh wow, so that's how you
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: end up with forty two. You know, it's a lot
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: of people, far too many people.
• 33:38
  Speaker 9: People.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Nicola Willis is attacking the banks and is that a
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: diversion because everybody is attacking Nicholas n.
• 33:44
  Speaker 14: No, Nicola Willis loves attacking the banks because it makes
• 33:46
  Speaker 14: her look, makes it look relatable, right, like she understands
• 33:49
  Speaker 14: our pain. Yeah, it's a good move from her. But anyway,
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  Speaker 14: we're going to be talking about the social media thing
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