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Football Doesn't Lie: Week 1 with our Hall of Fame Head Coach! · Football Doesn't Lie

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to Football Doesn't Lie. I'm sitting here
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  Speaker 1: with Bill Parcells.
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  Speaker 2: Catherine, I'm looking forward to doing this show. Hopefully we
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  Speaker 2: can give the audience a little in-depth look into the
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  Speaker 2: inner sanctum of pro football and information that they can't
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  Speaker 2: get too many places.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. Now, I'm going to dive right in
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  Speaker 1: because opening day of the season, Coach, tell me what
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  Speaker 1: it's like. Is it like the first day of school,
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  Speaker 1: like a little excitement, a little anxiety?
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's full of excitement. It's full of butterflies.
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  Speaker 2: It's full of anticipation. It's the first test in a
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  Speaker 2: long journey. The first week, you kind of find out
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  Speaker 2: where your team is. And you've spent all summer diligently
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  Speaker 2: trying to prepare them for this moment. And you're always
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  Speaker 2: looking forward with great anticipation to see what the results
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  Speaker 2: of your summer's work show up.
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  Speaker 1: Now, week one actually featured a lot of high scoring games.
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  Speaker 1: We were watching the NFL Network. I was baffled by
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  Speaker 1: how high some of the numbers, I think 10 teams
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  Speaker 1: scored at least 30 points. The Bears and Panthers game, 59-37.
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  Speaker 1: And that was the highest scoring week one game of
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  Speaker 1: all time. And I remember when I saw the points,
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned it and you said, oh yeah, they got 59,
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  Speaker 1: but they let 37 through.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, citizens of Chicago are very excited. They
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  Speaker 2: won their first game. They scored 59 points, and that's
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  Speaker 2: what everybody's talking about. But as you said, they gave
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  Speaker 2: up 37, and they also gave up 487 yards to
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  Speaker 2: their opponent's offense. That's not going to bode well if
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  Speaker 2: they don't get that corrected because they'll be in shootout games,
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  Speaker 2: and when you're in a shootout game, Where it comes
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  Speaker 2: down to the last couple of plays, you only usually
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  Speaker 2: win half of those.
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  Speaker 1: Now, do you put a lot of weight in the
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  Speaker 1: final score in these games, or is it really just
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  Speaker 1: the win? No.
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  Speaker 2: 1-0 is a lot better than 0-1. You know, there
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  Speaker 2: are 32 cities in the league, and 16 of them
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  Speaker 2: this morning are very, very happy with the result, looking
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  Speaker 2: forward with great anticipation. And the other 16 are wondering
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  Speaker 2: whether they're ever, ever going to win a game.
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  Speaker 1: Now, do you prep your players differently for the first week?
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  Speaker 2: No, you install your system both on offense and defense,
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  Speaker 2: but you do it in an incremental nature so that
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  Speaker 2: you have the opportunity to continually repeat and review and
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  Speaker 2: go over periodically the things that you've taught them. Then
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  Speaker 2: hopefully by the time the first game gets there, they're
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  Speaker 2: prepared to execute in a manner that allows them to win.
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  Speaker 1: All right. I love that you mentioned offense and defense
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  Speaker 1: because for me, offense seems more fun to watch, but defense,
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  Speaker 1: quote-unquote wins championships, which one do you think is more important,
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  Speaker 1: a great offense or a great defense?
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  Speaker 2: Without question, defense. If you play good defense, you're going
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  Speaker 2: to be in every single game. If you can keep
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  Speaker 2: your opponent to a low number, you're going to have
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  Speaker 2: the opportunity. A good offense is important because it allows
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  Speaker 2: you to control the game. You have the lead. You
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  Speaker 2: can control the clock. You have greater time of possession.
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  Speaker 2: And as a result, you have a better chance to win.
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  Speaker 2: But if you gave me the choice of the two,
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  Speaker 2: I want the good defense because now I know I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be in every game with an opportunity to win.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that's a universal feeling for all coaches?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to the question. I can
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  Speaker 2: only tell you is I think defense is the key
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  Speaker 2: to every major sport.
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  Speaker 1: Is that what you taught your coaching tree?
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  Speaker 2: Pretty much so. I mean, it didn't take much teaching.
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  Speaker 2: They come in with the idea that you have to
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  Speaker 2: be primarily, if you're good on defense, it gives you
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  Speaker 2: a better chance.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to talk about Patriots, the quarterback, one
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  Speaker 1: of your teams. So May is last year's MVP runner-up.
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  Speaker 1: And he had just eight interceptions all year. But he
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  Speaker 1: had three interceptions in the season opener against the Seattle Seahawks.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me about that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, turnovers, of which interception is one, is the most
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  Speaker 2: significant statistic in football. And most people think, well, he
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  Speaker 2: just gave the ball to the other team. But if
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  Speaker 2: you give the ball to the other team in your
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  Speaker 2: own territory, there's a pretty good chance they're going to
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  Speaker 2: get points out of that. If you make a mistake
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  Speaker 2: in their end of the field... then they have 70
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  Speaker 2: or 80 yards to go before they get points. So
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  Speaker 2: the idea is to try to play the game on
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  Speaker 2: their end of the field as much as you can.
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  Speaker 2: But the reason the significance of turnovers is so important
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  Speaker 2: is very simply, you don't get to punt the ball.
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  Speaker 2: And when you do punt the ball, you gain 50
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  Speaker 2: or 60 yards of field position. If you don't get
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  Speaker 2: to punt it, That's 50 or 60 less yards that
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  Speaker 2: the opponent has to go to score. That's why the
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  Speaker 2: turnover statistic is so significant.
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  Speaker 1: That's interesting. Now, quarterbacks do talk a lot about having
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  Speaker 1: short memory in reference to making mistakes. What does that
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  Speaker 1: look like in a game situation?
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  Speaker 2: You know, you can only worry about the next play.
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  Speaker 2: Or in the quarterback's case, you can't worry about the
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  Speaker 2: last pass that you threw that was errant or bad.
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  Speaker 2: not on target, you've got to get on to the
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  Speaker 2: next play. You don't have time to dwell on what happened.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to get on to the next thing and
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  Speaker 2: try to execute at a top level with the situation
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  Speaker 2: you're in currently.
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  Speaker 1: I love that you say that. You don't dwell on it,
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  Speaker 1: but when you're having multiple interceptions, do you find that
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  Speaker 1: it actually hurts a guy's morale? Do you notice a
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  Speaker 1: difference in the players typically?
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  Speaker 2: Of course. Because you're giving up field position. Field position
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  Speaker 2: is the key to the game. We've got to play
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  Speaker 2: on their end if we can. And if we're fumbling
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  Speaker 2: the ball or throwing interceptions on our end, it's probably
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  Speaker 2: going to result in points. That diminishes our chance to win.
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  Speaker 1: Now, obviously, quarterbacks know that they can't turn over the ball.
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  Speaker 1: But as a coach, how do you handle that? Do
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  Speaker 1: you remind them? Do you let them kind of.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to remind them, Catherine. Everybody that's playing
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  Speaker 2: in the game knows a turnover is very significant. You
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  Speaker 2: don't have to remind them. Now, you might question their judgment,
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  Speaker 2: particularly with the quarterback. Why did you go there when this,
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  Speaker 2: in fact, was a better decision? What did you see
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  Speaker 2: that made you take that chance? Now, every once in
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  Speaker 2: a while, you run into a quarterback who that can
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  Speaker 2: be totally indiscriminate. He thinks he has the ability to
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  Speaker 2: put the ball exactly where he wants to every time.
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  Speaker 2: And that's not always the case. So judgment and the
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  Speaker 2: quarterback's decision-making is very important.
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  Speaker 1: Do you typically have powwows with them afterwards and kind
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  Speaker 1: of go over that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Powwows, that's on Monday. We watch the film,
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  Speaker 2: and it's not just one-on-one with the quarterback. The whole
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  Speaker 2: team sees the game film. Everybody sees everybody on every play.
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  Speaker 2: So one of the things that exists in pro football
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  Speaker 2: is that there's always accountability because it's right there on film.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody can see it. There are no secrets. We all
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  Speaker 2: know what happened, and we all try to correct the
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  Speaker 2: mistakes we made in the prior weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Do you find that all the players are pretty supportive
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  Speaker 1: of each other, or do they razz each other when
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  Speaker 1: they're noticing each other?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's a combination. It's a combination. Generally, very supportive
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  Speaker 2: of one another, but if somebody makes a big mistake
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  Speaker 2: or a dumb mistake at an important time in the game,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes he's going to get a few looks from some
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  Speaker 2: of those other guys.
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  Speaker 1: That's fair. Now, speaking of turnovers, going back to that,
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  Speaker 1: I noticed that a lot of fumbles, and we even
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  Speaker 1: mentioned it, I think, I forget which game we were watching,
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  Speaker 1: but you had your hand over your eyes going like
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  Speaker 1: ah because they just the fumbles were all over the
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  Speaker 1: place and I also heard people say that you know
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  Speaker 1: ball security is job security and you've even told me
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  Speaker 1: the best hands are hands that are together what does
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  Speaker 1: a coach do to prevent the fumbles and how do
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  Speaker 1: you react when the guys actually lose the.
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  Speaker 2: Ball Well, obviously you drill your players on ball security.
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  Speaker 2: Generally speaking, you try to get them to wear long sleeves.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want a slippery ball, which gets wet sometimes
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  Speaker 2: during the game, to be skin on skin. You typically
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  Speaker 2: want skin, cloth, ball. And so that's one way we
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  Speaker 2: try to do that. But generally speaking, You want your
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  Speaker 2: skilled players to put one hand over the corner of
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  Speaker 2: the ball and tuck the point of the ball in
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  Speaker 2: that bend and flex in your bicep and secure it
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  Speaker 2: tightly against their chest. So it's not just running loose,
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  Speaker 2: you know, where a little hand can deflect it. You
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  Speaker 2: have to hold it securely, tightly, and you try to
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  Speaker 2: put it inside on your body.
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  Speaker 1: I have to say, though, some of my favorite catches
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  Speaker 1: are the ones where they're reaching out one hand.
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  Speaker 2: And sometimes the situation doesn't let you execute exactly the
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  Speaker 2: way you want to and balls are thrown all over
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  Speaker 2: the place and you have to try to catch them.
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  Speaker 2: That's your job as a receiver. or running back if
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  Speaker 2: you happen to be the receiver. So you got to
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  Speaker 2: get it the best way you can, but then you
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  Speaker 2: have to secure it immediately. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny because the other day I saw, I forget
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  Speaker 1: which player it was, but somebody, one of the quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: passed the ball almost sideways. It was almost horizontal. And
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you knew he wasn't planning for that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, in football, everybody doesn't know how to stay in
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  Speaker 2: one lane. So it doesn't always unfold the way you
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  Speaker 2: want it to. And Once in a while, you got
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  Speaker 2: to adjust.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. All right, let's talk underdogs. The anatomy of an upset. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the Cardinals actually, they took down the Chargers like a
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  Speaker 1: 26-14 victory. And the Chargers were eight and a half
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  Speaker 1: point favorites at home. And they didn't just lose the game.
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  Speaker 1: They never even like led in the points. What goes
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  Speaker 1: into an upset win like this?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I have very strong personal interest in
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  Speaker 2: the Cardinals because a young man that plays quarterback for
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  Speaker 2: the Cardinals currently is a young man I met when
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  Speaker 2: he was 14 years old down in Florida. He went
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  Speaker 2: to high school there and then college there and now
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  Speaker 2: has made a career in the pros. His name is
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  Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett. So I watch their games with great interest
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  Speaker 2: because he's a very, very close friend of mine. And
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  Speaker 2: I was very proud of him the other night. He
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  Speaker 2: executed very well. He played very well. And most importantly,
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  Speaker 2: he got his team a victory. But I will tell
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  Speaker 2: you his mindset because I text him. I said, Jacoby,
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  Speaker 2: nice going. He texts me back one sentence. It's only
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  Speaker 2: one and all, coach. I knew his high school coach,
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  Speaker 2: and so I've known him since he was 14 or
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  Speaker 2: 15 years old. Of course, he's a grown man now
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  Speaker 2: with family of his own, 33, and doing well.
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  Speaker 1: And he just had a kid, so now you can
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  Speaker 1: give him dad advice too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very special for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, I love that. Going back to the underdogs,
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  Speaker 1: Do you think the team, the underdog team, do you
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  Speaker 1: think they consider the fact that they're widely expected to lose?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think they're going in with that mentality, knowing
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  Speaker 1: they're the underdog?
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't make any difference what the prognosticators say. Underdog
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  Speaker 2: is just a word. It's how the team feels about
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  Speaker 2: itself as they approach the game. And generally speaking, they
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  Speaker 2: have a good idea whether they're going to be competitive.
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  Speaker 2: So what the prognosticators say usually is totally irrelevant.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's interesting. As a coach, though, in the locker room,
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  Speaker 1: after the favored losing team gets back, how do you
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  Speaker 1: handle that? What's the atmosphere like? Because you're licking your wounds.
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  Speaker 2: You mean when you lost the game when you were favored?
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  Speaker 1: You were favored and you lost the game. Well.
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  Speaker 2: The first thing you try to do is point out
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  Speaker 2: on the videos what the things are that allow you
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  Speaker 2: to win and what the things are that cause you
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  Speaker 2: to lose. Generally speaking, as you mentioned before, turnovers, very significant,
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  Speaker 2: very significant. Ball possession, very significant. Where you played the game,
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  Speaker 2: now I'm not talking about the stadium, what portion of
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  Speaker 2: the field that you played the game on, very significant.
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  Speaker 2: You're playing on their end of the field all the time,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to probably have success. If you're playing on
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  Speaker 2: your end of the field all the time, probably not
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  Speaker 2: as good a chance.
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  Speaker 1: It's got to be an uncomfortable feeling when you're always
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  Speaker 1: on your end.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you're probably going to lose. So you got
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  Speaker 2: to find a way to get out of there and
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  Speaker 2: Change the field position. It's not that hard to do,
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  Speaker 2: but it's very important. It's like a battlefield. Where do
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  Speaker 2: you want to fight? You want to fight in your
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  Speaker 2: territory or you want to fight in their territory? Their territory.
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  Speaker 1: You make it sound easier said than done.
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  Speaker 2: Well, like I said, it's a field position game. Where
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  Speaker 2: are you playing the game? Let's play on their end.
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  Speaker 1: Let's switch gears and go into team building. So the
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  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and the Cincinnati Bengals, they historically had bad
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  Speaker 1: defenses in 2025, so I've heard. And I remember when
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  Speaker 1: we were watching the games on Sunday, you mentioned the Cowboys'
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  Speaker 1: defense was pretty solid. And they acquired, both the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: and the Bengals, acquired a lot of defensive additions. Now,
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  Speaker 1: do you think they did enough to get better in 2026?
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you're referring to the Cowboys, I couldn't tell
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  Speaker 2: the difference between 2025 and 26. Even though that they
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  Speaker 2: had the additions, they still didn't play well on defense
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  Speaker 2: against the Giants. And that's why the Giants were able
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  Speaker 2: to beat them. The Bengals looked appreciably better on defense.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that'll bode them well because they are
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  Speaker 2: strong offensively. And I think as they go forward with
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  Speaker 2: the season, if they can continue to play good defense,
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  Speaker 2: they have a good chance to be a definite contender.
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  Speaker 2: This year, I was impressed with the Bengals. I was
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  Speaker 2: not as impressed with the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 1: I thought I remembered you saying, oh, their defense. But
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  Speaker 1: now I'm thinking back, and I think it was because
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  Speaker 1: they fumbled that one pass.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's never one thing, Catherine. It's always
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  Speaker 2: the combination of several things. They made the defensive additions.
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  Speaker 2: They tried to improve what they termed to be a
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  Speaker 2: weakness on their team, but it didn't show up the
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  Speaker 2: first week. So it's soon to be found out whether
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  Speaker 2: it's real or not real. They have to do better
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  Speaker 2: than they did last week. I know that.
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  Speaker 1: Now, beyond adding new players, and you were a defensive
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  Speaker 1: coordinator with the Giants, so you have a lot of
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  Speaker 1: insight on this. What can coaches do year to year
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  Speaker 1: to improve the defense?
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  Speaker 2: Well, hopefully you give your players a good design that
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  Speaker 2: allows your specific team for this year to function well
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  Speaker 2: within the ability that they have. And usually the keys
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  Speaker 2: to that are, number one, simplicity. Make it easy for
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  Speaker 2: your players mentally to execute. Knowledge is confidence. Confidence lets
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  Speaker 2: you play well. Fast. Lack of confidence slows you down.
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  Speaker 2: Am I doing the right thing? Am I going the
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  Speaker 2: right place? But confidence, that lets you play fast. So
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  Speaker 2: I want simple, confident players playing.
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  Speaker 1: And talking about defensive coordinators and coaches, I actually heard
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  Speaker 1: a stat that surprised me. Only seven teams have the
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  Speaker 1: same head coach, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator that they had
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  Speaker 1: last season. Now, when you were with the Giants, you
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  Speaker 1: had the same coaches. They may have moved around within
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  Speaker 1: the organization, but they were with you for a decade,
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  Speaker 1: like Bill Belichick. So people talk a lot these days
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  Speaker 1: about the coaching carousel, right? What is the actual effect
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  Speaker 1: on the team having so much turnover amongst the leaders?
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  Speaker 2: Well... You know, continuity, particularly if it's a solid group,
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  Speaker 2: continuity leads to sustained success. When there's constant change and
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  Speaker 2: you're injecting new variables into your system or players, Usually
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  Speaker 2: it's not as settled. So continuity is very important. But
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  Speaker 2: what happens when you get good coaches on your staff
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  Speaker 2: and people begin to recognize them, then they want to
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  Speaker 2: hire them. So they take them away from you. And
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  Speaker 2: then you can't stop a guy from trying to improve himself,
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  Speaker 2: get a better position, become a head coach, earn a
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  Speaker 2: lot more money, but you have to replace them. And
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  Speaker 2: sometimes it's difficult to do. So generally speaking, continuity is
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  Speaker 2: an asset. Lots of change usually creates a little chaos.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you were just talking about your own
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  Speaker 1: journey there for a second.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I had several jobs, different places. You
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  Speaker 2: have to... It's just like any other job in some respects.
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  Speaker 2: You have to evaluate... First of all, opportunity. Does this
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  Speaker 2: move I'm making benefit me from an opportunity standpoint? And
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  Speaker 2: always in the consideration is the economics. Am I getting
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  Speaker 2: paid more money? Am I offered more money? Do I
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  Speaker 2: have a bigger job? Do I have more responsibility? All
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  Speaker 2: those things come into play. But it's not unlike any
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  Speaker 2: other job. You just pick and choose what you think
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  Speaker 2: is best at the time.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so on the flip side... Teams like the
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  Speaker 1: Giants and the Raiders, they seem to be off to
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  Speaker 1: a great start under a new regime.
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  Speaker 2: It's only one week, Catherine.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: Let's not buy our Super Bowl tickets yet, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Come on. I have to throw the Giants in there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, that's my team. So I'm very excited
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: that they got off to a good win. But as
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Jacoby said in his text, they're only 1-0. They have
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: 17 more of these.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: But do you find having new coaches and a new
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: lineup of coaches and coordinators, can it spark the team
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: a little bit? Do you think that can be also,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: instead of having a different dynamic, actually be encouraging instead
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: of growing pains?
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: It can be, but it can't definitely without a question.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: So the answer to the question is yes, but... As
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: training camp unfolds and the season starts to get close,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: a team and the coaching staff as well It teaches
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: itself what it is. And if that has a positive
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: vibe and a vibe of confidence and improvement and the
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: ability to execute under pressure, if all those things are
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: in place, then you approach the season in a good
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: frame of mind. And if they're not in place, you know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: everybody knows it's not quite the way we want it yet.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: We have to get it that way or it's not
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: going to be a good result.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: So week one also means that it's the NFL debut
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: for tons of rookies. And they were drafted back in April.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: And teams can start now to see the real return
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: on their investment. It's time for them to show their worth.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: And actually, I have to mention, I really like this.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: So the Denver Bronco versus the Kansas City Chiefs, the
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: rookie Delane intercepted a pass from Knicks. And it was like,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: you know, you could see him all hyped up and
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: That must have been an awesome feeling. What does success
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: look like for a rookie?
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Well, first, success is determined, did he make the team?
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's the first challenge a rookie has to create
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: a spot for himself and an opportunity to go forward
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: with his chosen profession. And that's a lot of pressure
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: because there's a lot of competition for these jobs and
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: there's more than one Ricky competing for these jobs. So
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: that's pressure in itself. Once you get there, now it
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: comes to, well, they're giving me this job. How well
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: can I execute what they're asking me to do? If
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I can do that, then I start to establish myself
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: and get myself on firm ground, and I become a
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: necessity for the team. Whereas if I'm inconsistent and not
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: playing well, I become a liability, and they almost immediately
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: be looking to replace you. So job security is not
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the thing that's always there for you, particularly when you're
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: a rookie.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Do you find rookies usually come in pretty humble, a
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: little nervous? Do you think they come in a little
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: hot and heavy?
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they come in humble and nervous, and other times
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: they're so full of themselves from their college accomplishments that
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: they have a distorted view of their ability as it
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: pertains to pro football. They think there's something special. Well,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: they're pretty quick to find out they're not.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I was just going to ask. Did they find out
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: pretty quick?
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Now, are there things that the rookies have to do
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: that older guys don't on the team on and off
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the field? Is there any special requirements for them?
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They have to go get
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: ice cream. They have to do all the mundane tasks,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: anything that has to be done. They get the rookies
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: to do it or the rookie coaches to do it.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: And they also, there are a lot of practical jokes.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: So they try to trick you into doing something. And
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: in my case, I want to tell you how I
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: got my nickname.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes. Let's do it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: So I'm a rookie coach at the Patriots. And there's
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: a sign up on the board. It says, free turkey.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: It's Thanksgiving, and it has an address, free turkey. Players
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: were saying, coach, did you go down and get your
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: turkey yet? I'm thinking to myself, I didn't go down
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: and get it. Next day, they're asking, coach, did you
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: get your turkey yet? You got a free turkey coming. Well,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: the whole thing about this is they give you some
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: fictitious address to go get your free turkey, and then
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: they have one of the other players down there filming
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: you looking for the place that doesn't exist. And I
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: was a little ahead of the game. I was very
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: suspicious because they were continually asking me if I got
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: my free turkey. So I said, at the time, there
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: was an advertisement for tuna fish, Starkist tuna. And the
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: key guy was called Charlie the tuna. And he was
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: kind of a naive guy. And he would kind of
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: fall for this stuff. I said, what do you guys
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: think I am, Charlie the tuna? And that's how that
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: name stuck.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: It's so funny because I didn't even hear about this
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: nickname until recently. Is that something that followed you your
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: entire career?
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, sure. No, that followed me ever since I was
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: first in the pro football league. They started calling me
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: the tuna because I said, who do you think I am,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Charlie the tuna? I'm not a fool. I'm not going
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: down there. There's no free turkey. I had that figured out.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: And then you got promoted to the big tuna.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the big tuna, yeah.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: All right, what would you do? This is a good
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: section because I'm curious as to what you would do
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: as a coach. Now, Saints versus Lions, right? New Orleans
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: came all the way back from being down 21-0, and
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: it forced overtime, and in the OT they scored and
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: chose to go for the two-point conversion to win instead
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: of the extra point to tie. There wasn't a lot
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: of time left, but they didn't convert the game, and
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: it was over. This decision is becoming more common in
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: late game situations. What are your thoughts on that?
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Well, very simply this. Do you want to decide the
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: outcome of the game with this play, which is what
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: New Orleans tried to do? We have a chance to
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: beat Detroit or tie Detroit. They took the chance to
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: do it. But sometimes those decisions go the other way
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: and you wind up losing. My thoughts are, it depends
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: on the exact moment, and am I going to decide
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: this game with this play, or am I going to
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: live to continue to play and hope a better opportunity comes?
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Because the percentage on two-point conversions is not much over 50%.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: When you take that chance, you've got a 30% or 40%
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: chance it's not going to be successful. It's just how
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: you feel at the time. What gives you the best
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: chance to win? If it's do it now, then we
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: do it. If it's play, let's continue on and see
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: what else happens. Maybe a better opportunity will come.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Because the Bills also tried to do a two-point conversion,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: didn't get it.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: But they wound up winning.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: They did, and it was so close.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Well, that's your team, the Buffalo Bills. Oh, my God.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Northern New York.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Bill, I literally had you cheering for them on Sunday.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I never thought I'd see the day. You got excited
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: on that one.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I like the Bills as an organization. I love their
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: fan base. I love the passion that they have in Buffalo.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: And it's one of the unique places in the league.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Green Bay, Buffalo, places like that are very special places
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: to go and play because everybody hates you. And that's
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: a good feeling when you can go there and win.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I bet. I can't even, I wonder if it has
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: something to do with all the bad weather that they get.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: It like makes them like harder and stronger and more resilient.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: No, you know, what's great about this game is they're
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: not canceling the games or very rarely do they cancel
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: the games. So teams that are bad weather teams and
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Green Bay, Buffalo, Chicago, the upper Midwest there, even the
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: East Coast later in the fall, the elements change. Catherine,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: are a great equalizer in this game. And the teams
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: that know how to play in the elements and minimize
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: their risks and take advantage of the wind is a
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: big factor in football. Take advantage of it when they
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: have the wind and play more cautiously and time-consuming. When
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: they don't have it, they have a better chance to win.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: The elements... and I'm repeating myself, are a great equalizer
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: in football.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I love that you repeat yourself because I think that's
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: how people have memorized all your sayings over the years.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I don't have that many sayings.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, not at all. I'm just writing a book
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: about it. You have a lot.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I'm questioning the intelligence of the author.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, come on. My favorite is, and this is the
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: one I say to my son all the time when
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: he's going to bed and he's already eaten. He's like,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I'm hungry. I say, what does Bill say? And he repeats,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: hungry dogs fight best.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: That's right. Hungry dog fights best. That's right.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I love it. Finishing up, what would you do about
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: the conversion, the two-point conversion? You actually, in your entire career,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I think only had one tie, right? And I want
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: to know if you remember this game. It was against St.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Louis in 1983.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: That was, yes, that was my first season as a
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: head coach. Yes, I remember the tie completely.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: How did it feel compared to a win or a loss?
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: It's a blasé, nondescript, disappointing feeling. It's not like a loss, but...
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: You think about all the things you could have done
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: differently to just get that one more point. And you
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: know the old saying, a tie is like kissing your sister.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: It just doesn't do it for you.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Hopefully.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right. That's right.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I want to hear more about your rules, though. So
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: let's talk about handling blowouts. The Jaguars were up 24-0
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: over the Browns at halftime. And they scored out of
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: half to go up to 31-0. And then they seem
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: to have taken their foot off the gas at one point, right?
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Because they still won 34-10, but they kind of slowed down.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: What's the unwritten rule here? Is it like that etiquette
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: to run up the score?
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: No.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: No?
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: You don't want to run up the score on anybody.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I would never do that to another coach. Sometimes the
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: situation gets out of your control. They're not playing well
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: and you're playing superior. you know, you're going to score
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: a lot of points. But generally speaking, you're trying to
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: show respect to the other people. I don't mean keep
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: the store down, but I mean once you get a
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: comfortable lead, sometimes you're trying to run the clock more,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: use more time, not really rub their nose in it,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: so to speak.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: You humble yourself. That's good. I like that. That's really nice. Mm-hmm. Oh,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: you guys are so sweet. Very thoughtful. I thought you
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: guys would be more combative.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's another guy over there. He's your opponent.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: But you have to show respect because he's trying to
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: do the same job you're doing. And most coaches have
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: good relationships. And I know my fiercest rivals, Joe Gibbs,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Bill Walsh. for the 49ers, Gibbs for the Redskins. They're
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: the coaches I had the most respect for because I
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: knew if I wasn't prepared, I was going to get beat.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Now, when you have that much of a lead in
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: the score, when, as a coach, when do you start
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: to take your starters out to avoid injuries? Is that
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: something you consider?
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, absolutely. You don't want to get your good
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: players hurt. You continue to play. There's always that chance. But,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Once you start doing that, the rest of the team, oh,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: we got this. Oh, we got this. Don't worry. Coaches, coaches,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: he knows we got it. Sometimes you can get hit
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: in the face with that skunk and then you got
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: to put them back in. Sometimes it's not the same. Oh, yeah.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: So you got to be careful when you do that
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: because it conveys a whole attitude to the entire team.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't consider that.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: You got to watch it.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Don't be too cocky.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good statement for anything in life.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I got some super quick questions for you. Right. This
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: is our two minute drill.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: OK, OK.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: You ready?
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Who do you think will be the best team in
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: the NFL this year?
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: It's very early, Catherine. It's so early, it's almost ludicrous
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: to try to answer. As a matter of fact, just ironically,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: going into the season, if you'd asked me that question
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: last week at this time, I think I probably would
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: have said the Los Angeles Rams. And sure enough, they
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: got beat pretty badly by the 49ers.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: That shows you what I know. Who would it be
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: now today, though, after seeing the week one? Well, not
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: saying it's going to be your final answer. Obviously, it's
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: going to change.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: You know, I thought the Vikings were impressive. I think
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Buffalo is going to be formidable. Cincinnati looks much improved.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: San Francisco is definitely going to be in contention, I think.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Seattle is definitely going to be in contention. But it's
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: way too early to be having this conversation. We've got
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: 17 more games and a plethora of things. can happen
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: to affect the outcomes of those games.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: When do you start actually realizing or noticing, okay, these
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: are the top two? Is it like all the way
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: till the end? Or do you get a pretty good idea?
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: No, that's a very, very good question. I usually start
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: looking at it around Thanksgiving. Okay. You know, you got
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: eight or nine or 10 games, you got a pretty
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: good feel for what you're seeing and how your team's
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: performing in comparison to other teams. So Around Thanksgiving, that's
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: the natural time. The playoffs are only a month away
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: or a month and a half. So you start thinking
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: about it more directly at that time. Thanksgiving.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I have a random question kind of related to this.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Are you part of any fantasy football leagues?
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not. No. I only deal in the real thing. Okay.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: That's fair. All right. I got another quick question for you.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Who do you think will win the MVP this season?
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I already have who I want to win based on
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: all the football I watched in three days.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: I know who your answer is.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Who, who?
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Heck yeah.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I love the player. I know him personally. I interacted
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: with him when he was a player coming out of college.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: We had the same agent. His agent asked me to
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: speak with him. for an extended period of time about
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: transitioning to pro football. I got to know him personally.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: He's my favorite player in the league.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: All right, I have to, I've heard this story. Tell
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: me what you told him when you first met him,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: when you first met Josh Allen. What were your exact
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: words to him?
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Well, Josh happens to be from California. So I said,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: are you one of those Beach Boy quarterbacks that has
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: sand in his shoes? That's what I told him.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: What was his response? He just laughed it off?
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he laughed it off, but he took it seriously, too.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Well, I think he's proven his worth.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, hey. He's had a tremendous career. I'm pretty sure,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: barring injury, that will continue on for some time.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. And he actually, on Monday, or on Sunday, he
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: was the only quarterback all time. He hit 80 career-rushing touchdowns.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: He's breaking some records.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: He's a man's man.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Six feet five, 240-something pounds. Yeah.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: He's also the fastest quarterback.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Is he really? I didn't know that. You've got stuff
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: I don't even know, Catherine.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I researched it.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Where'd you find that out?
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: The internet. It doesn't lie, okay? And he's going to
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: be a force to be reckoned with, at least.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: He has been and will continue to be, no question.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I was going to say, how special is he?
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: But I think you already answered that. But yeah. If
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I had to fangirl, and I'm not a fangirl person,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: but if I had to fangirl any player, it'd be him.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Just because he's so talented. He's impressive.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a wonderful young man as well.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: And I love his wife.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: She's talented. All right, last quick, quick question. Favorite tailgate food.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: What are you eating when you're watching the game?
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I never even thought about that. Tailgate food. Yeah. I
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: never tailgated, so I don't have that experience. Just off
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: the top of my head, maybe some kind of barbecue
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I know what you would do because we had this
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: on Sunday. Turkey sandwich.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Turkey sandwich. I do like turkey.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Turkey or tuna, one or the other. No tomatoes.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Don't forget the cheese.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: No tomatoes.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: No tomatoes. There's a few things you don't like.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I don't like tomatoes. The things you like I don't
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: like are tomatoes and mushrooms and asparagus. I don't like
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: any of them, and you like all of them.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: That's why I love when they come on your plate
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: when we're having a meal somewhere because then I get
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: to have them.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: You get to sniff it.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: It's good.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: It's the best.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: I do want to ask you a quick question about
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Would he play for me? Which is, I was going
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: to talk about Trevor Lawrence real quick.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: That's ironic. I watched him very closely yesterday. You know,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: he was highly thought of coming out of college. He
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: was the number one pick in the whole draft. And
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: he went to, obviously, the worst team has the highest picks,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: or he went to a bad team.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: But now they're starting to look like they're going to
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: be in contention. He's been there a couple of years.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: He's done a good job there. Jacksonville's much improved as
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: a franchise. And I'm very excited to see how this goes. Definitely,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to be in contention.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Trevor Lawrence. And it was funny because I found
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: out that his nickname was The Prince Who Was Promised.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Did you know that? That's his nickname. The prince who
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: was promised.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Well, that's by virtue of him being the first pick
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: in the draft. I guess. Yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: And he's a Clemson guy too, right?
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So would you have him on your team if
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: you were to?
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, sure. I'd love to have him. He looks pretty good.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I thought he played well yesterday and he's continued to
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: improve and his team has continued to get better. That's
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: why I think they could be in contention this year.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Being a stat girl, I was so impressed by
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: his stats, too, because he completed 18 of 23 passes.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: He had zero interceptions, four passing touchdowns, too. Yeah, you
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: know what?
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: That's what he's supposed to do.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what he's out there for. Let's go.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: It's funny you say that because I guess, you know,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: you never know if the players are going to achieve
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: what they're supposed to do or not. When they do,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: you're like, all right, that's what you're supposed to do.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: That's what you're out there for. Who was it? Was
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: it McGinnis? Somebody had mentioned.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Willie McGinnis?
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: One of my favorites.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: And he mentioned one time he was messing up and
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: he got the play and he's.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Like, look, coach.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: And you didn't even give him time a day. And
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: then he did it again. Like, look, coach, I did
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: it again. Still didn't give him time a day. And
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: then he's like, all right, I did it. And you
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: said the best thing. You said, if you do it once.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Tell me what you said. It was so good.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: One time might just be a fluke.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Consistent performance is very important in football.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And he remembers that because he was just like, oh,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: I was trying so hard.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Well, Willie's one of my favorites I ever had.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: And he was pretty darn good. And he's got several
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl rings to show for it.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But he had to prove his worth to you.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. They all do.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. This is talking about your history now, Bill. The story. Oh,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. Come on. Let's not go too in-depth on
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: the history here. Let's go.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I love that you always call yourself a JG, just
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: another guy.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Just another guy. That's what I am.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: But you've earned the nickname. You've earned coach. You've earned
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: the big tuna. So unlocking your history, all right? Sam
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Darnold and Kyler Murray, they were among quarterbacks who got
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: injured in the first quarter this past week. You're down
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: to your backup quarterback. so early in the season. What
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: is that like as a coach?
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: It's probably the worst injury that could occur. It's certainly
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: a vital position and the psychological effect of that on
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: the team can be devastating. As a coach, you have
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: to immediately tell them or show them your confidence in
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: the player that's going to take that quarterback's place. Happened
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: to me. I lost my starting quarterback, Phil Sims. Had
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: to put Jeff Hostetler, who had been with us for
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: five or six years, really had never gotten the opportunity.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: His time was coming. And I remember getting up in
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: front of the team and saying, listen, we're not going
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: to lose because... of Jeff Hosteller. He's prepared. He's been here.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: It'll be one of you other, and I can't say
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: what I said.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Let's say buffoons. Yeah.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's right.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes perfect sense. One last thing I want
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: to know, and I want to know if you've had
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: this experience or not. So the wide receiver of the Giants, Right. Neighbors.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: He got got injured. Right. So he's coming back from
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: or he's recovering from a knee surgery. And he was
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: really nervous, apparently, coming back. And I don't know if
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: you heard what the head coach did.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I know. I saw what he did.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: He tackled him.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Trying to reinforce the player's confidence. Now, I wouldn't do
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: that myself. But he did it, and quite apparently it
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: was very effective because neighbors played very well, and he
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: played with confidence. You know, you're always apprehensive. When you're
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: coming off a surgery, what's it going to feel like
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: when I get back in the real action? You know,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: you can practice all you want, but it's not like
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: the games. And there are high-speed collisions, and what's going
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: to happen when that first occurs? Yeah.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Harbaugh was trying to take the pressure off by giving
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: it to him before the game even started. I thought
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: that was kind of cute.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Well, it worked.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: It worked.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Bill.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: You're welcome, Catherine. Nice to be with you.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: You too. I'm excited for next week and to watch
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: some more football.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: How about those frittatas? Can we get at those now?
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I made some good frittata. Let's go have
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: some now.