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The Matrix Reloaded, Tarot Arcana & Awakening w/ Nick of The Occult Rejects · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: What what's going to happen?
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  Speaker 3: What I to there we go, Welcome back to Megas
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  Speaker 3: in the Media.
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  Speaker 4: We have a great and special one for everyone out
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  Speaker 4: there today. Thank you for joining us out into this
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  Speaker 4: great wide world.
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  Speaker 5: Today we are going to be speaking about the matrix reloaded,
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  Speaker 5: Taro Arcana and the path to Awakening. And I don't
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  Speaker 5: get to just do this on my own. I get
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  Speaker 5: to do it with the one, the only.
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  Speaker 4: The great Cardinal electric Head himself, the creator and founder
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  Speaker 4: of the Occult Rejects.
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  Speaker 6: Nick. Thank you, Thank you for joining us on Megas
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  Speaker 6: in the Media. How are you today?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing great, sir. Thank you for having me on
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  Speaker 2: to me that's awesome. I appreciate you having me on.
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  Speaker 7: And I very much look forward to what we're talking about,
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  Speaker 7: because even when I had the idea for the topic,
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  Speaker 7: I was like, oh, it's gonna be perfect, but both
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  Speaker 7: of us, so you know this is going to be fun.
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  Speaker 7: It's actually like, believe it or not, this is reminding
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  Speaker 7: me a little bit of the older Occult reject stays
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  Speaker 7: where we used to cover stuff like this and dig
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  Speaker 7: into these symbolism. So it was like kind of a
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  Speaker 7: stroll down memory lane for me, So I really appreciate this.
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  Speaker 6: No, of course, that's amazing. That's what we want.
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  Speaker 4: We want to get back to the times where we
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  Speaker 4: can truly talk about the things that we love and
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  Speaker 4: then get really deep into it, because that is what
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  Speaker 4: magic and mysticism and the old culture about, right digging
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  Speaker 4: up those hidden secrets.
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  Speaker 6: And what's beautiful is you are.
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  Speaker 4: The one who's all like, this is exactly what I
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  Speaker 4: want to talk about. So please give me a little
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  Speaker 4: what we're going to break it open here a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: But what is it with this topic that you that
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  Speaker 4: you love so much?
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  Speaker 2: Believe it or not.
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  Speaker 7: This goes back to probably something about two years ago
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  Speaker 7: that I think, uh I can't remember what I was tip.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know what I was actually covering, but I
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  Speaker 7: started I think I was going through the matrix or something,
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  Speaker 7: and I started to see some symbolism that I thought match.
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  Speaker 2: Taro and Kabbala.
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  Speaker 7: And then I left this out of the show because
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  Speaker 7: you know, technically, at the time I was going to
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  Speaker 7: do it, Me and Lisa were gonna do it at
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  Speaker 7: the time when we were whatever still together broken up.
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  Speaker 7: That's why she's not on the show obviously anymore. But uh,
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  Speaker 7: and then because of that, I figured like I wasn't
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  Speaker 7: gonna touch it, because I was like, I was kind
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  Speaker 7: of our work, but like we were even going to
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  Speaker 7: go into showing the blood stream, believe it or not,
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  Speaker 7: and I was going to get into the red and
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  Speaker 7: white blood cells and lead and all that, and you
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  Speaker 7: know what lead poisoning does to your blood and the
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  Speaker 7: body change.
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  Speaker 2: But what we're going to show, what I think is that.
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  Speaker 7: All I do think in the second one I reloaded,
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  Speaker 7: when they get to the restaurant with the guy and
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  Speaker 7: the girl, Mary Vinngine, I think you said already forgot
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  Speaker 7: his name, Posephony. We're gonna go from there to when
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  Speaker 7: they get to the key Master. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 7: stuff I'll leave out because it's it's a long part.
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  Speaker 7: But I do think you can show them traveling up
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  Speaker 7: the cobbalistic tree of life, and if you associate the
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  Speaker 7: Tarot deck with the way it would fit on the
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  Speaker 7: tree of life, I do think you will even see
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  Speaker 7: the tarot symbolism. I think you will see the symbolism
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  Speaker 7: for the sphere of Bora and possibly even chess It.
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  Speaker 2: And Chokolate, depending on how you're looking at it.
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  Speaker 7: But I do think you actually see the both of them,
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  Speaker 7: Trinity and Neo, or you'll even see Persephone and you
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  Speaker 7: know that other guy, you know, associated on the tree,
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  Speaker 7: and I think you actually see them like trying to
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  Speaker 7: go up it, you know, to escape the matrix.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's beautiful. No, I love that.
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  Speaker 4: So then I'm gonna give a little brief, little rundown
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  Speaker 4: on what we got going on here then, because as
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  Speaker 4: everyone knows, the Matrix created in nineteen ninety nine by
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  Speaker 4: the Wakowski now siblings whatever that means. Deep into the
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  Speaker 4: Matrix they are, obviously, and the whole idea of this
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  Speaker 4: main character called mister Anderson, Thomas Anderson being basically Joseph Campbell, right,
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  Speaker 4: he's led through his hero's journey.
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  Speaker 6: He's a normal guy by day.
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  Speaker 4: By night, he's a hacker named Neo, and he's basically
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  Speaker 4: brought out of this normal, everyday situation that he thought
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  Speaker 4: was his normal, humdrum of a life, but to be
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  Speaker 4: then led like a white rabbit down the rabbit hole
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  Speaker 4: and to be realized that everything that he witnesses is
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  Speaker 4: actually nothing but a mere illusion or a simulation kind
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  Speaker 4: of much like most of our lives today that we lead, right,
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  Speaker 4: it's kind of like everything that we hear on Jeo politics,
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  Speaker 4: to all the nonsensical dramas that happen within all spheres,
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  Speaker 4: to all the nonsense in our families and all it's
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  Speaker 4: even the nonsense, but it all goes back to our
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  Speaker 4: own brains. Everything this infinite loof structure that we just
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  Speaker 4: continue to push forward.
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  Speaker 6: It's kind of an illusion, as the Buddhists call.
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  Speaker 4: They say, it's Maya the Silicon Valley right there now,
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  Speaker 4: trying to tell us that it's all a simulation, that
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  Speaker 4: this virtual reality that we're living within, more and more
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  Speaker 4: due to Pallanteer and these structures of the dystopian like structures.
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  Speaker 4: It's almost like we're slowly being brought into it and
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  Speaker 4: becoming cyborgs ourselves.
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  Speaker 6: Don't you think.
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  Speaker 2: Biological ail?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go, that's exactly it. And so Neo
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  Speaker 4: through this thing he has to do, uh, the inevitable.
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  Speaker 4: You have to make a choice, and that's what leads
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  Speaker 4: us into the matrix reloaded. But before we get there,
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  Speaker 4: the choice is the red pill or the blue pill.
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  Speaker 4: One of the things I'm continually trying to tell people
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  Speaker 4: about is how you don't just take the red pill
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  Speaker 4: once and then you're awake, right, It's a continual red
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  Speaker 4: pilling effect. That's why we then have such like the
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  Speaker 4: practices of magic and mysticism, and then why we come
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  Speaker 4: out here into the public spheres of the YouTube and
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  Speaker 4: social media is to have these kind of conversations because
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  Speaker 4: it's a reminder to all those out there that they're
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  Speaker 4: not alone. And that's kind of what Morpheus and the
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  Speaker 4: Nebekonzer and all these people are doing when they ask
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  Speaker 4: that question. Morpheus sitting in the chair Neo across from him, Trinity,
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  Speaker 4: the third aspect of the feminine that has been taken
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  Speaker 4: away from the Christian mythos, of the holy spirit of
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  Speaker 4: that trinity. Right, you get the massing and the feminine,
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  Speaker 4: and then whatever this mythological holy spirit is which could
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  Speaker 4: be deemed the feminine principle, you get that. And then
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden he sits there and he has
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  Speaker 4: to make it. Take the blue pill, and you'll wake
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  Speaker 4: up right where you are, right in your bed, and
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  Speaker 4: you won't remember a thing. Take the red pill, and
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  Speaker 4: we'll see how far the rabbit hole goes. And then
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  Speaker 4: that kind of leads us into the topic at hand
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  Speaker 4: of the Taro. Yes, the Tree of Life, mysticism.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, there's even not I'll even showing stuff where I
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  Speaker 7: think gnosticism and that is that is something I wanted
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  Speaker 7: to mention. I was going to say it before when
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  Speaker 7: you were talking about the brothers that made the movie.
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  Speaker 7: I covered For people who are interested, I covered Valentinis.
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  Speaker 7: He's a Gnostic. He's even a Gnostic saint in the Oto,
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  Speaker 7: which is one of the reasons why I covered him.
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  Speaker 7: Be honest, I've actually covered a lot of saints from
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  Speaker 7: the Oto and just I don't even think people realize
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  Speaker 7: it from the Gnostic Mass, at least the EGC. He
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  Speaker 7: was the one who even gave us the demiurge. You know,
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  Speaker 7: he's he's he's big, he's you know, he's og when
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  Speaker 7: it comes to nastissism and the brothers actually I think
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  Speaker 7: it was them, Yeah, who did say that. There was
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  Speaker 7: ideas of Valentina's influence in the movie, and there's even
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  Speaker 7: parts yeah I would, you know, I have to say
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  Speaker 7: much of it now, But when we get to merrivingiin,
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  Speaker 7: I think you can look at him very much like
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  Speaker 7: the Demiurge. He thinks she's the top dog and completely
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  Speaker 7: fucking mind blown to the things above him because he's
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  Speaker 7: to be in control.
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  Speaker 4: Now, that's interesting, that's a great, that's great because then
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  Speaker 4: you get the architect and then and then you got
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  Speaker 4: to even think the architects being Kether isn't even the
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  Speaker 4: architect itself.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't even consider him Kether.
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  Speaker 4: That maybe Orter because he's the mascularine principle to the
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  Speaker 4: oracles Banah, right, And so we're breaking that's nice.
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  Speaker 2: I like, we're gonna we're gonna have fun game when
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  Speaker 2: we come.
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  Speaker 6: Nice. No, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: So then that leads into why I even titled it
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  Speaker 4: the way I did with the Matrix loaded, the tarot'canna
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  Speaker 4: and the Great Awakening, the awakening itself. If I'm all
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  Speaker 4: of you out there, you should know, and if you don't,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna remind you. Nosis or narcissism stems from the
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  Speaker 4: idea of nosis or knowledge direct experience or awakening, or
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  Speaker 4: that idea of what what does Buddha mean? Buddha means
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  Speaker 4: to awaken, and so it's this idea that Neo wakening
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  Speaker 4: up from his vibe mundane self. As Thomas Anderson and
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  Speaker 4: Neil is just his first iteration as he then kind
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  Speaker 4: of breaks free and becomes a high level being.
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  Speaker 6: This this higher level.
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  Speaker 4: Super super humanist being in matrix reloaded itself, and so
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  Speaker 4: by the end you get the what's beautiful about the
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  Speaker 4: first matrix is it's a it's a beginning middle and
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  Speaker 4: Aristotle would be so happy with it.
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  Speaker 6: It gives you all the climax that you need.
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  Speaker 4: In the end, he merges with He's questions everything, so
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  Speaker 4: you get the oracle and all these different ideas of
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  Speaker 4: doubt and not really accepting your hero's journey, wanting to continue,
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  Speaker 4: push it away even after you're on the journey itself,
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  Speaker 4: to question yourself until the very end where he must
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  Speaker 4: do the Assyrian thing.
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  Speaker 6: He must be slain to be reborn. And when he's.
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  Speaker 4: Reborn, Trinity is actually like pump it, like she kisses him,
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  Speaker 4: his heart awakens, she yells at him, like what happens
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  Speaker 4: with in Malcouth.
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  Speaker 6: At the very bottom, you get the sleeping beauty.
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  Speaker 4: So it's this role reversal where the feminine is that Sophia,
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  Speaker 4: aonic type of thing that's looking down to the masculine.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, hey, wake up, we must do this together.
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  Speaker 4: There's a whole journey after this, because once we return home,
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  Speaker 4: once he defeats the smiths and awakens to his journey
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  Speaker 4: and the matrix, that's when the true journey begins.
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  Speaker 6: And so it's one of those things that then.
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  Speaker 4: When we go to the Kabbala and the Taro and
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  Speaker 4: the Tree of Life and the major arcana, is that
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  Speaker 4: that all is a very symbolic understanding how we must
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  Speaker 4: and it's not just symbolic, it's actual experiential of how
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  Speaker 4: we travel up the tree once, but it's never done.
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  Speaker 4: We must continually travel up the tree because each time
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  Speaker 4: we do it, it's like a spiral and we have
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  Speaker 4: a new level of awakening, a new level of gnosis,
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  Speaker 4: and that kind of leads us into now the matrix reloaded,
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  Speaker 4: where we get these great scenes. But before we get there,
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  Speaker 4: we have to understand even what the Zaro is, these
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  Speaker 4: mythical seventy eight cards that then can be glyphed on
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  Speaker 4: to the Tree of life, this Kabbalistic mystical system. And
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  Speaker 4: I will state that it does not run and owned
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  Speaker 4: by just the Hebraic Jews, but they did it very well,
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  Speaker 4: like they know how it has been something been around
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  Speaker 4: for a very long time. The Tree of Life, like
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  Speaker 4: the Flower of Life, is seen on many glyphs around
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  Speaker 4: the planet, and so it cannot just be run and
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  Speaker 4: owned by one system. But yeah, the hebreak system of
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  Speaker 4: the Tree of Life of the Kabbala is a Jewish
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  Speaker 4: mystical system and they did it really well, which is
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  Speaker 4: why we're using it right.
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  Speaker 7: One thing I would just even add, kind of like
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  Speaker 7: in your defense of what you're saying, the way we're
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  Speaker 7: even looking at it, it's not even traditional Cabbala, it's
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  Speaker 7: Hermitica Bala. And at that point everybody's already tossed in
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  Speaker 7: their associations on there, so you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 7: You can't say, oh, just Jewish it. No, it's actually
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  Speaker 7: a lot more than that the Hermitica Bala.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, And that's and great, that's great.
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  Speaker 4: And because it's so important that the hermetics are this
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  Speaker 4: syncretic system where it takes from all things and wraps
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  Speaker 4: it in so we have the ability to understand that
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  Speaker 4: this now becomes a human system. I think that's kind
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  Speaker 4: of how I like to think about it. The hermetic
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  Speaker 4: system is a human system because we all have nervous systems,
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  Speaker 4: we all have the brain to eye to nervous system
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  Speaker 4: connection to how we then take in information and then
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  Speaker 4: use the Tree of Life as a cabinet system. It
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  Speaker 4: becomes the model of reality that you can use for
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  Speaker 4: your mystical, magical journeys to glyph things onto. So for
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  Speaker 4: all of you who don't know the Tree of Life,
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  Speaker 4: you get ten spheres, and you get twenty two paths,
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  Speaker 4: and on those thirty two paths, and on those thirty
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  Speaker 4: two paths, right, you get ten. Twenty two makes thirty two.
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  Speaker 4: It's beautiful. The twenty two paths are that of the
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  Speaker 4: major arcana. There are twenty two cards, and the major
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  Speaker 4: arcana you get then the ten Sepharra, which are the
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  Speaker 4: ten core cards. And it's beautiful and it works your
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  Speaker 4: way all the way up that tree from ten to one.
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  Speaker 4: The magic the magicians as they do shout out to Jin.
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  Speaker 4: We talked Jin, the Ninja of Threshold sayings shouting him
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  Speaker 4: out also a fellow occult reject.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we love Jin.
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  Speaker 4: And the idea is that we're always talking about how
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  Speaker 4: the magician is the lightning bolt path up. That's what
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  Speaker 4: we're kind of getting in the matrix. That's why there's
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  Speaker 4: three of them, and that's why I know it's a
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  Speaker 4: hot take. I like all three of them. Fourth one
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  Speaker 4: is trash. It have never been made, but it was.
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  Speaker 4: And so the idea then stems us into what does
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  Speaker 4: it look like once you climb the tree the first time?
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  Speaker 6: Well, then you do have this.
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  Speaker 4: You're still human, right, So Neo is still human. That's
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  Speaker 4: why he can plug himself into the matrix. It's just
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  Speaker 4: that he has now become more than human in a way,
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  Speaker 4: and that's why he's able to then climb up the
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  Speaker 4: tree again and help others.
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  Speaker 6: As he does it.
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  Speaker 4: He's got this bodhisatfa like care to him. He is
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  Speaker 4: the true gnostic uber mensch in the very Nietzschean way
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  Speaker 4: where he's now trying to battle the arcons, which are
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  Speaker 4: all of the different agent Smiths that are in that
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  Speaker 4: are all the bad guys. And you get the one
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  Speaker 4: great arconic entity as mister Smith himself, who can now
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  Speaker 4: proliferate himself into all the other things. Why because in
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  Speaker 4: the original Matrix mister Smith died, as in he was
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  Speaker 4: killed and he went back to the source. Interesting enough
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  Speaker 4: for wording very gnostic, very alchemical, very hermetic, goes back
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  Speaker 4: to the source, and then from that he wasn't done.
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  Speaker 6: He had this.
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  Speaker 4: Wills, It's like something moving through him. He's and the
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  Speaker 4: actor is amazing. Can't remember his name, but it's fucking amazing.
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  Speaker 4: And he really feels that part because he's like, I
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  Speaker 4: wasn't ready to be subsumed and completely annihilated into the all.
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  Speaker 4: And then he woke back up, and by doing so,
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  Speaker 4: he himself somewhatly. It was unplugged from the matrix, creating
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  Speaker 4: the dualism of Neo himself. Now you get this Christos
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  Speaker 4: anti Cristos like character. And now these two are going
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  Speaker 4: to battle each other until.
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  Speaker 2: The very end.
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  Speaker 6: Fucking amazing. Ye.
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  Speaker 4: And so what Nick's start to show us in this
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  Speaker 4: beauty of how now through and I think this is
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  Speaker 4: something that leads us back to Alistair Crowley himself that
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  Speaker 4: he states in his John Saint John as well as
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  Speaker 4: his book four as he's trying to tell us, what
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  Speaker 4: are we supposed to do with the taro. We're supposed
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  Speaker 4: to take the major arcana and we're supposed to live
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  Speaker 4: it as if we're living in our life.
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  Speaker 6: You see the archetypes everywhere.
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  Speaker 7: You know, you mentioned before and I was going to
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  Speaker 7: say something. I guess because now I smoked a little bit.
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  Speaker 7: Now the thought left me. But you just reminded me.
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  Speaker 7: I wanted to throw in there because we did somewhat
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  Speaker 7: cover seven seven seven on the show. If you look
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  Speaker 7: at like his tables, it goes up to thirty two.
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  Speaker 7: It's because of the ten spheres in the twenty two
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  Speaker 7: paths that whole book. I mean, it's yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 7: like he just said, you know, that's all if you
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  Speaker 7: want to if you want a good example of what
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  Speaker 7: he's saying, goal looking seven seven.
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  Speaker 4: Seven, Yeah, that's great, that's great, And I completely agree
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  Speaker 4: seven seven seven is outstanding. And again it's one of
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  Speaker 4: those things where why I think, you know, I believe
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  Speaker 4: Nick would agree with me. And but again just remember
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  Speaker 4: as integrated as occult rejects and magus in the media are.
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  Speaker 6: We are our two separate people, but we're boys for life.
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  Speaker 4: It's one of those things that it's like the institutions
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  Speaker 4: are going to continually try to tell you that you
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  Speaker 4: must follow suit and that you must not stray from
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  Speaker 4: the path, which is why a lot of those institutionalized
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  Speaker 4: characters hate Crowley, not because he may have done some
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  Speaker 4: ill things here and there, which he was an asshole
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  Speaker 4: and a bastard like we all can be. And in
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  Speaker 4: the early nineteen hundreds, I don't think any of you
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: out there could even imagine what it would be like
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: to live even then in our very more cradled like
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: life that we live.
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: If you know what I mean, he can one of
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: our personalities and drop us back then, and we didn't
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: change ourselves at all. You know what type of reputation
• 17:00
  Speaker 7: we would ahead and we were actually at that bad
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, Like I'm just being serious
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: just from the way way we express ourselves and we
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: don't hold back. If you've really put it into an
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: elegant context, I mean, was he was pretty much talking
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: shit himself then too?
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know I completely Which is has a
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: lot of that Luciferian Promethean spirit. Which I think is
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: really important is that we have to understand that the
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: institutions are there to help, say, like to help when
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: we go through the more. I think it's the allegorical
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: winter time. You know, when wintertime comes, we must have
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: institutions and buildings and structures to be able to help
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: keep our food, our knowledge, and our body mind safe
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: from the elements. But I think we must realize that
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: all things are cyclical, and so once we hit springtime,
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: and let's say the institutions hold on to a little
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: too long and they don't realize that we needed to
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: blood to bud and bloom as persephone walks herself out
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: of the under world. That I think all bets are off.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: And that goes back to seven seven seven and Crowley,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: And the idea is that you're meant to use the
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: structures of our past and traditions, but break free and
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: create your own correspondences for these things. Because if we're
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: using the structures, we have the ability to see correctly,
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: use our wand of intuition, use our sort of reason,
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: sit ourselves in our foundation, and at the same time
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: have the ability to use the cup of compassion as
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: we take things away, move things forward, and then we
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: can build our own tree.
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: I think that's that's the whole idea, right.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do think.
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: I mean in a way again to keep you going on, Croley,
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: but I mean I am a Thomamites hard not to
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: I even think the new Aon is a little bit
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: about that, where it's like people are gonna be like
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: fuck your rules, fuck your system, fuck your preconceived notions,
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: and I'm going to choose for myself what's right or
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: wrong or what feels good it feels not. And that
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: doesn't even mean because I know when people hear that,
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: the automatically run to like, oh, I guess he's gonna get.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Pegged in the ass. No, I'm gonna be totally honest
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: with you.
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: When it comes to occultism and it comes to people
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: breaking those rules, it's more of what do they study
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: and look into. Yeah, it's not actually going out and
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: acting like a heathen.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: It's actually just.
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: Opening your mind to other ideas and paths or ways
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: of learning, you know, looking at something that everybody should
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: as perverted and being like, but you know what, I'm
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: not sure you know, or look into it yourself and
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: maybe you'll take something good out of it. You know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: it doesn't always have to all of a sudden turn
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: into we're a degenerative society now because we're saying, fuck
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: your rules and your beliefs. It's actually for me, it's
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: I want to expand my fucking understanding and knowledge and
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: mind more because I want to have a more serious
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: connection with God.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, so you know, yeah, as I said, I
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: agree to put that in as a claimer. Disclaimer there like.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Maah, that's a great disclaimer, and as Stella agrees, it's
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: a way of learning, I completely agree. Shout out Stella,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: She's she's great. We we love that you watch. Thank
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: you for watching Stelle, as well as shout out to
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: everyone else out there, how are and Jugs and everybody
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: young stitches and everyone else.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: Thank you so much.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: If you guys haven't out there already, make sure you do,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: like subscribe and share this because we're trying to awaken
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: the plebs and keep ourselves awaken with that red pill.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: And we're not talking about the manosphere. We're not talking
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: about some degenerate other shit. What we're really talking about
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: and we're trying to bring it back to what magic, mysticism,
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: myth and meaning are all about. It's about understanding the
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: cosmic story, the cosmic drama, and awakening from that dualistic
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: nature that they're trying to entrap us in, you know.
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: And it's like, what's fascinating is that what you Yeah?
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Thanks Nick, it's and the idea is that, now, what
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: we can do with these types of mythologies and archetypes
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: is what we can map them on.
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: To this story.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: The matrix so well is because Neo himself becomes the
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: archetype of somebody who is trapped within the cycle that
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: he thinks he's breaking out of, but realizes that he's
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: just another pawn of the story. And so I know
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: that's jumping ahead to his scene with the architect, but
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: we're not gonna get there yet. But it's such a
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: fascinating journey of thinking that you're breaking yourself free from
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: something like, let's say the mundane experience of our everyday
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: life of the nine to five, the making sure you
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: feed your body, feed your family, have kids, get a job, die,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: and so what the next step is to realize that
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: you need to do those things. It's really important to
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: make sure you have a full disk, the full earth,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: you know. That's why we make sure we balance the pentacle.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: But then on top of those types of things, we
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: then can understand through our magical practice, our mystical practices,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: and everything that comes along with that are our knowledge
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: and conversations, is that death is but seeming to be
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: a mere illusion, and that even in your magical institutions,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: your mystical institutions and in the occult esotery, communities, philosophy
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: and all these things that you can get caught up
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: in it too much and think that you've become a
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: rebel when actually you've just now been subsumed by the
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: next part of the empire.
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: Does that make Does that make sense? Nick?
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeahs a whole lot of sense.
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: And it's just so fascinating that that's exactly what Neo
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: finds himself in, is that he now finds himself in
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: the beginning of the matrix. Who loaded, they're all it's
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: you know, and who doesn't want to, especially in the nineties,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: dress up and you know, the suit and tie and
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: the glasses and kind of walk around like a fucking badass.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Which is then why I'm trying to bring the gentleman
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: back to magic. Is that is that when we are
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: out there in the world, we can get a little
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: too tied up into our myopic egotism. Right, So I know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Nick can confer with himself and myself and I can
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: say myself, I got a bombastic, gregarious attitude, you know.
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: But you know, and that's why we find each other.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: And at the same time, if we that's we like
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: having these conversations is because we can also check each
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: other when we feel like it needs to be checked.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: And at the same time, we're here to lift each
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: other up, but we're here to spot the other Smiths
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: out in the world. And even those that we think
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: have become unplugged from the matrix can still be so
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: attached to the matrix in one way or the other
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: that they forget that they've now drinken the different kind
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: of kool aid instead of broken themselves free with that
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Promethean fire.
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: If that makes any sense.
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: I will even say that, like even from my own experience,
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: like one once I saw it having like you know,
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: whatever cross the abyss whatever I had to work.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: However people want to determine it themselves.
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: Uh. That was like and I had to relearn everything
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: all over again because like all of a sudden it
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: turned it on a different angle that I was like,
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: it made certain stuff so glaringly obvious, so blaringly whatever.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Obvious to me that.
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: I wasn't like thinking crazy shit, but like and then
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: I started seeing and like people from the Renaissance like
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: saying the same stuff, and I'm like, all right, so
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: I can't get too fucking crazy they were.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Thinking of it, And like I also, I understand, I'm
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: not the first person I have this thought either.
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: I'm not that much of a genius, so I forget,
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, Like somebody had to have
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: thought this too, But like there was just a whole
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: different aspect of like how I started to have to
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: kind of relearn a lot of it now if I'm
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: going to look at it from a completely different angle
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: I never did before. You almost kind of got to
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: startle over again with the basics, you know, and then
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: kind of you know whatever. But yeah, and you know
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: one thing you said before about how like we kind
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: of find ourselves just you know, real quick and not
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: to you know, get a like sentimental or sweet about it.
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: Yes, But.
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: Before I even had you on, I sent Jin your
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: Instagram a page and I was like, yo, I was
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: like I'm going to get this guy on, and he
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: was like all right, he said something, and then like
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: we both almost literally kind of text each other the
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: same thing back at the same time, like, Yo, I
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: think this guy would be good for this too. Like
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: before we even had you on, you could just tell
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: by your attitude and the way you wear thank you.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I was like, this guy's yeah, he's good.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: Well, thank you. That means a lot.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: You too, are major parts of my because this is
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: Jenny and I talked about how like when you start
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: a content creator, artist, whatever, this YouTube, whatever, this is,
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: it's a level of nosis itself.
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: You you know what I mean. It's like I we
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: watched you.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: When you're editing videos, you have to hear yourself over
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: and over and over and when you're talking, yeah, exactly,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: and you're like, oh man, I say these words a
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: little too much.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: You start to see things, you start to.
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: Hate your little ticks and habits, and you're like, oh,
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: You're like you think everybody knows and probably you know,
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: most people don't even catch it. Maybe some people do,
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: but you think that's like everybody's fixated on that and
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: didn't even hear anything you said.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: That's that's my brain.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Or like I speak so fast sometimes in a way
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: and I have a lack filter both in a way
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: that's like I mean to and at the same time
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: I don't. It's you go away and all of a sudden,
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: it's like, did I do you think people understood what
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I was saying? Did I go a little hard at
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: that time, you know, so I thank you. No, that
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: means a lot, because you two are truly this is
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: when you're on the internet, it's a wild West. And
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: if you don't have some kind of hor it is,
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: it is. And if you don't have other people who
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: are doing it that you can kind of be like, Okay,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: thank you. I need thank you for your little wisdom
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: here or your experience here, or I get to watch.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: So I am so grateful let alone for you, Nick. Yeah,
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you my own little waxing a waiting.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Is that like like the last few months, since I've
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: been doing the Rejects, it has nothing but helped me.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Are the cult rejects and you are the occult rejects.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: So you've helped me immensely.
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: And wait too, all of us, Yeah do it?
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, massive spiderweb together.
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's exactly because of all.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: This is what it's about, is that we're here to
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: help each other continually remember what it means to have
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: meaning in our life.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: And you know what I mean.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: And without that continual remembrance, life is hard. And I
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: think that's something that's really important for us all to
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: remember that you're not we We may be born alone
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: and you may die alone, but throughout this journey we
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: are always there's always somebody else here to help if
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: you so choose, if you so choose, and and it's
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: not easy to put yourself out there all the time.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, the rejects been around, You've been around for
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: quite quite a while now.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Going through tons of ship gotten black.
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: So it's fast.
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: I've had d m c A strikes, you know things,
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: I've had legal shit, actually take my stuff down, gone
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: gone through. I've gone through it. I've gone through the
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: conspiracy community. Now I'm back into the you know now
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: well now into more into the ecult. So it's been
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: a wild ride the whole last five years.
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, is that how long? It's been five years?
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah? About that?
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, Yeah, in the first year and
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: a half, I had like a different co host, so
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: like yeah, but then I kind of picked up more
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: a little bit after that. So but yeah, a lot
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: of people don't even listen that far back for that, dude, right, yeah,
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: I mean, cause that's like, that's a long time ago.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: It's a long time ago. Five What's crazy is what
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: has even happened in the last five years. The complete
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: and utter destruction of the very world that we know.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Yo.
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: And I mean it's kind of funny, how like even
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: back then when I started the show, it's around COVID time,
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: so like even then, you know, for me, I was
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: just like, you know, I can I get any worse?
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: And like I I don't know if you could say
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: it did, but it's gotten fucked up in ways I
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: never would imagine, right, you know what I'm saying.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: It's like, Yo, it's like we are still fucked up.
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: Actually it may be worse in all the ways, but
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: it's like I never pictured it in this sense.
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: No, no, not at all.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: It's what's crazy is how the world is going is
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: a very similar way to how I think everyone feels
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: on the inside.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: Benjamin, he listens that far back. Thank you Benjamin for
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: listening to the rechexcept awesome.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: But it's crazy is because what I'm seeing in the
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: world is kind of exactly what Neo is going through
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: in all of the matrixes, is that he is understanding.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: So the idea is, how did Thrice Great, Hermes Tristmgiss
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: get to be thrice great?
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Thrice great means he was born, he died, he was reborn,
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: and he died again, and then he exactly and then
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: from that he was from that last from that second death,
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: he was born to be thrice great. And that is
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: something that we all are going through on this journey.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: And we all have our own karma to go through.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: We all have our levels of some sorrow that we
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: have to deal with and whatever our dharma is. But
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: in those things we either in this life for the next,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: we will have to finally remember who we are.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: In this lifetime.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: And I think that's kind of a little thing that
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: you know, not even a little fan, that's something to
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: what you're doing with the rejects. And that's what even
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: in the last year I've been doing this, I'm trying
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: to help people remember that myth, that.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: Magic, and that meaning. It's not outside of themselves.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: It's everything is happening inside, which is then why the
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: world is going so crazy, because I think consciousness is
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: awakening to itself an.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Idea how powerful they are.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: That's that's exactly what it is, and that's what all
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: these texts that we read, that's what when we're watching
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: the Matrix, I mean, even in the Matrix Revolution, in
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: the third one, which I will deem to be the
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: last one because the fourth one is awful, is that
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: he now has superpowers outside of the matrix. He can
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: stop the machines by putting out his hand, just like
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: he stopped the bullets of the of the agents inside
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: the matrix. And that's fucking crazy to think, and I
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: think that is something even in my deepest psychedelic trips
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: to doing kung fu in the backyard like I do
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: every day, It's like I'm just slowly trying to rehone
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: my body mind connection so I can continually have a
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: flow of prana chi ether or energy that stems through
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: me so I can tap into that that power. Don't
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: what do you feel about that?
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: No? I totally agree with that.
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: So it's fascinating, and I think one of those things
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: that has been able to do it not only the
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Matrix and the story, but it's it's the Tarot and
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: the Kabbala because to kind of move us along is
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: that the idea in the Tarot is you must learn
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: the alphabet, and that alphabet is those first twenty two
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: cards of the major arcana. And when you're learning it,
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: you go from the fool all the way to that
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: last car was the universe? Was that the last I
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: can't remember on the top of my head. Last card
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: is unfortunately, sorry, no, no, it's good. From from zero
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: to twenty one, right, that's what I have to remember. Yeah,
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: it's from zero to twenty one.
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: One.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Zero is the fool, Number one is the magician number two,
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: and we move all the way through it. And that's
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: why it's so fascinating is because of each one of
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: those bits. Yes, we can see it through the psychological lend,
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: that each one of those major arcana is parts of
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: our own soul trying to express itself on the fool's
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: path of climbing up the tree itself. And so in
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: that journey we get all kinds of characters, the devil
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: character being one of them, which then drafts it on.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: And the devil isn't this Christian, Abrahamic devil. I want
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: everybody to know. It's a lot different than that. But
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: it sees itself as that kind of seducer like character,
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: that big ego energy, the person who is a guardian
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: at the threshold, and that is who the merro vingian
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: is in the matrix. And so let's pull up the Merrivingian,
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: because I think that's where a lot of your stuff starts.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: Is that true, Nick, Yeah, there.
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: Was just some basic stuff I wanted to show before
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: we get into that, just to give people an idea
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: what I'm talking about with the cabalistic tree.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: Okay, perfect, let's start there. You want me to pull
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: that up?
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, please, yes, go for it.
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: So here we go.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: So this is kind of like the area that I
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: wanted to show people and things I'll be talking about.
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: You will see net sock and hode here. That's where
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: I do start off, kind of when we'll get to Maravingian,
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: which we'll get too soon, and I do think you
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: will see them eventually go from Geborah to the chariot card,
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: the chariot path, I do think you'll see that represented.
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: So like basically what I'm saying is we're starting here
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: at the bottom of the tree with hoda net sock,
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: and I do think you actually climb up to probably
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: around a choke my area or chesshead, but like a
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: little bit more choke my on my appearance, my opinion,
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: And I'll try to show symbolism with cobbaalistic tree as well,
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: like certain things that might show up for Gabora for symbolisms,
• 33:50
  Speaker 7: certain things that show up for net sock. I might
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: bring those up to help explain the scene. And I
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: will show one tarot card to give an idea of
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: what I'll be referencing too. So he'll move over to
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: the next one now, just to show people. That is
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: the one that I'm going to, the chariot. That's the
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: Tolf deck. Just give it people an idea so you
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: can see the symbolism. There's two white things on the
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: front and two black things. So all right, so uh
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: in the beginning, let me get to my notes where
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: I wanted to go.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: And just so we all know the tarot deck of
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: the Felth Deck, which is my favorite deck besides the
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: writer way, Alstra Croley with Lady FRIEDA. Harris created the
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Thelth Deck, and he and Alstra Crowley, through all his
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: years in study of magic and mysticism, created this deck
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: to kind of signify what you know for many things,
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: but a large part of it is the changeover from
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: his aon of Osiris to the aon of Horace itself.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: Now here, I'm starting it off where you have a
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: Breach said, persephony, right, and uh, yep, Marvin, I do.
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: And I think is a some of the symbolism that
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: they are actually net sock and hode. But again I
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: showed you those two spheres there at the bottom. I
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: would say even some of the reason why I would
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: say that is because now behind him you have green
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: squares that could be and it's cheesy, but the emerald
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: tablet in a sense which goes with both, yeah, you
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: know square, you know, the green square, the roses on
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: the table. In my opinion, that's a sign which I'll
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: get to in a little bit. The woman she looks
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: like to me, I mean, she's an attractive woman and
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: I'm assuming maybe no child, So I do think that's something,
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: you know, I want to get to eventually. That would
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: be net sock also even beauty and the roses associated
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: with net sock, the roses also associated with gobora and
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: gabura net sock. Kabalistically, if you start getting into talismans,
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: if you were to design a talisman, those two, just
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: like mercury and Jupiter would or code and chess head,
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: if you were to make a talisman for that, they
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: would actually share certain colors that you would use just
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: real quick. If I was to make one for Gobora,
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: the main color that I should be using on my
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: talisman would be red because it goes with the red sphere,
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: and the flashing color would be green, which would then
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: be showing the relationship with net sock still because net
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: sock is green, just like you know, Jupiter one would
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: be blue when it'd have a little bit of orange.
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: Is the flashing color, which would be murky. So I
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: do think like you may be kind of seeing that
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: there and now, just to give some people ideas when
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: it comes to the Hermit Kabbala, if you want to
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: look at symbols for net sock, the ones that you'll
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: get from like Dion Fortune and Gareth Knight and other
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: people you know. Common common symbols the lamp, which could
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: be representing of light, guidance and illumination of desire. The
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: girdle symbolizing the harnessing of energy, control and the binding
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: of forces. Rose embodying beauty, love and the blossoming of
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: creative or emotional energy. It is an element of a
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: fire planet. Venuses associated with it as well. You can
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: get amber emerald, believe it or not, we'll go with
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: it too.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: The Bria.
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: Each sphere on the Tree of Life will have its
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: have like four kind of things to it, and each
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: one of those has its own color. So again you're
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: even getting the emerald type color with her there, and
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: the gemstone would be emerald, incense would be rose, the
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: magical weapon would be lamps and yeah. Oh, and correspondence
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: in the microcosm loins, hips and legs, so which which
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: you will see him when he sends out that piece
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: of cake to that girl. It shows he's manipulating her
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: down there, and the way they show it is showing
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: her her legs and hips and then goes up there
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: and then shows like digitally that she's getting turned on
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: and has to get.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Up and leave. So I mean it's like you will
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: see that's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's good.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: And then before we move on from this one, just
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: so we all know, the names signify a lot of symbolism.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: So she being on that right hand side and him
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: on the left hand side, she is Persephone. He is
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: the Merovingian or the devil, or in our Greek mythology,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: he is Hades and Hades and Persephone, as we all know.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: In the illusion mysteries, and in the myth of Persephone,
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: she as being first. Before she is Persephone, she is
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Core and she is merely just picking flowers.
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: In the fields of Eleusis.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: And as she's picking flowers in the fields of Eleusis,
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: what is the flower that she picks? She picks the
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: narcissist flower. And so as a young miss she's picking
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: the narcissus flower with her flock of yeah, exactly, and
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: he's a massive nar sissis. And as she's doing that,
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: she has stolen away into the underworld by Hades. And
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: as she is down into the underworld right now on
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: her plate, is that a strawberry?
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: Is that true? Does that look like a strawberry?
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Strawberries and.
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: Chocolate?
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the roses right there, but the idea
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: that strawberry, it's red, so it can also signify the
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: pomegranate as she bites of the pomegranate fruit, and then
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: that means she can not ever leave the underworld. And
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: so what ends up happening is she is like, no,
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: I need to go up there, because Demeter, her mother,
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: has now completely gone away from her duties, and everything
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: is in the dark depths of winter, and it is
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: winter forever. All things die if the fertility goddess is
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: not fertilitizing. And so it's one of those things that
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: finally Hades is like, Okay, I know you need to
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: go back up there as totally fine, but you can
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: only go up for six months out of the year,
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: and six months out of the year you got a
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: come back down here. And so due to the myth
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: of Persephone and Hades, that's how we get all four seasons.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: That's how we get, you know, from the great winter
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: of all things, from the holding on of the great institution,
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: which one of the arcans can be known as the Meravngian,
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: the bloodlined royal families, that of Hades, who is one
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: of the brothers of Zeus and Poseidon. Hades, these are
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: the ones who took and defeated the Titans. And so
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: it's such a fascinating mythological scheme of that we're seeing
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: right here in them symbolizing that exact thing, the underworld
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: being the unconscious aspect of our world consciousness and of
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: the human consciousness. And within that human consciousness, what are
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: we getting. We're getting the archetypes of the collective unconscious.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: That's where then we can read it back into the
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: major arcana, which is tapping into that subconscious aspects of ourselves.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: And she is also white and he is black. What
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: are we finding that finding Johim and Boaz. We're each
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: side of the pillars.
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: And it's even there too, because would be on the
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: bottom on the left and she would be the bottom
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: on the right. Even that would she would like align
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: with like even Venus, so again, like even Posephonie, I
• 41:13
  Speaker 7: think being on that side is good. I love how
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: you kept separating from the underworld, because like this is
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: where I was going to even say, Oh, and even
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: real quick you called them kind of like the devil again. Now,
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: I said, we were starting at Hoad and going up.
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: You are going up when you go from Hoe to Tiffaereti,
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: you're going up. You're just going on an angle. That's
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: the devil card.
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: It is the devil card. That's great, it's nicely.
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: When you said the devil, I was like, yes, because
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: I was going to say that that I do think
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: he's kind of playing that character. You're still going up
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: the tree, but it's just on an angle and to
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: the hanged man, which I could have missed that symbolism.
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: But the separation that you keep talking about this is
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: where I do think we get a little bit possibly
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: of the demiurge idea, maybe even going back to Valentinas,
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: is that he thinks he is like top shit and
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: that you know, because you can see like he why
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: I even said that, I don't think she probably has
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: a child, which in my opinion nets like I don't
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: think she hasn't been bound up yet, you know.
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: Is still innocent.
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but she's she's she's ready for birth, but she
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: she hasn't you know, she hasn't done any so, uh.
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: He what you see him do is he basically he
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: pretty much brags about it and then shows you with
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: that chick. What he does is manipulates people's senses. He
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: manipulates the nervous system he creates by fucking with shit.
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: He's probably not actually interested in banging her and having
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: a child, you know what I'm saying. He's creating like,
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: you know, manipulating minds and stuff. So like, I do
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: think he is possibly like the demiurge actually, and she
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: might even be like Sophia in a sense where he
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: is totally ignorant to the god above him because he
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: thinks he's top ship now and he just thinks he's
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: the god of what he does now and he's the
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: ship and all that.
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: So I know, I love that now.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: I love that also because if you think about it,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: in hold that is the mercurial intellect and the mercurial
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: intellect inverted right, because we're we're working with in the
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: Matrix is the bastardized tree itself. It's the broken tree
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: like we're living in right now. And so I think
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: that's really important for us all to remember is that
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: the clip plot, the clip a loth Right, these the
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: husks of the hollow of the Goetia, this demonic underworld
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: is living within, and he runs all of them. So
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: you know, we get further in the scenes in this movie.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: He has vampires and werewolves and he's got all these
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: things that the Matrix that didn't work in the previous
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: versions of the Matrix. So you're even getting this lurianic
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: style of Kabbala of the beginning tree was broken and
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: they had to redo it and create this new aspect.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: But energy has never created nor destroyed. It never truly
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: goes away. And so Neo moving through his thing has
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: to recombine the whole tree, remaking the matrix.
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: And so I really like that idea.
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, now, uh, I don't know if you guys remember
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: there was at one point where they do when they
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: go into the bathroom, and she even again like she
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: even her when the woman is speaking in the bathroom,
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: she even makes them kind of sound like the demiurge
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: or a creator of the material world. And you know,
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: she even kind of like even says that he's like
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: fucked up now. And I thought that was also, uh,
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: you know again very Valentinus and demiurge. And I do
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: think that possibly like she remembers, I think she possibly
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: whatever might remember what it's like, you know above maybe,
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: and I think she misses that feeling of real love. Yeah,
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: and she knows that he's in love with her, and
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: she just thinks that's like the tiniest way to catch
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: a glimpse of you know, that the vine that she felt.
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: Oh you know what I'm saying, I think like in
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: this in this physical world like to her, that's like
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: the only thing she can attribute that feeling to.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: So I just wonder, you know, so.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: I like that because that's that we must remember in
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: the platonic sense, that's the beloved and the beloved. Yeah,
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: and so we're always ascribing to try to reach the
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: understanding that arrows that passion that Plato and Socrates are
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: always talking about in his dialogues. And that's something that's
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: really important with when we reach levels of divine madness
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: in which you could say Neo is doing she is
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: just trying to re kind of pierce herself from that fruit.
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: It seems like.
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: Now before we get to this picture, there is a
• 45:42
  Speaker 7: point that they after they kiss, she brings them somewhere
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: and like they go through a kitchen and they're showing
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: them cooking stuff or whatever in flames. I'm just taking
• 45:51
  Speaker 7: a guess. I mean, if that even meant anything that
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: maybe that could have been like alchemical symbolism, you know,
• 45:55
  Speaker 7: but you know that could be a grasp. But I
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: do find this interesting now, and this will also help
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: me get to back to the tarot card. She brings
• 46:05
  Speaker 7: them back to this room and she mentions how these
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: guys used to do her uh Merrivinngian's dirty work, both
• 46:13
  Speaker 7: these guys in black right there. But she does say,
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: but they did not always listen, and sometimes it became
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: more problems than worth. Now you've see in the background
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: that there's a chick in a casket. She's dead. Obviously
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: it was something.
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: Now in Savans Vampire movie.
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: Okay, since this, since this scene started with them, she's
• 46:37
  Speaker 7: gonna end up shooting one of them. That's gonna be
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: the first person, in my opinion, to get killed since
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: the situation has started.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: And you do have a girl in a casket behind her.
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: Now, if you want to go up to Tiffareth where
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: I just had the devil going, you will get the
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: death card from nets.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: So now I'm wondering. You know, we're seeing her, even
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: them both going up to Tiffareth.
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: He was a devil and she represents death because she
• 47:01
  Speaker 7: just knocked this person off and you got a fucking
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: dead person on the TV.
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: Uh huh. I'm just you know, I was fascinating. That's fascinating.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: I also like the idea of the person in the
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: casket being another iteration of you could consider Persephone as
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: being the bride of Malcouth and her being you know,
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: sleep in the matrix and then waking up, and that's
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: the idea of her being stolen away.
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: By the Maravingian.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: So she could have been just another person even you know,
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: in there, and then he liked her so much that
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: just then she became another of the mechanisms of the
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: matrix in a past matrix.
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: Who knows that's Laura Palmer, right there is that no
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: joking you definite watch from because you just said about
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: like the bride of the Malcouth. I was like, oh
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: fuck that, like that's totally Laura Palmer. Yeah, that's great,
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: thanks nice. So uh yeah, so she ends up popping
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: one of these dudes off. Now again, if these guys
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: used to these two twins, that these you know, albino
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: twins or whatever, these white guys that show up totally
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: white dudes.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: That retook their jobs.
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: I mean, if you want to technically look at it,
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: I would say either you could use them, or you
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: could even use possibly Trinity and.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Fuck I forgot the other guy's name, not Neo, but
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Lauren Fishburn or whatever his name was.
• 48:24
  Speaker 7: Morphs, yeah, Morpheus. I mean them, they're both dressed in black.
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: But I do think it's a good possibility that that
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: Toad card not the Toth card the here I'll actually
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: go back and show it again.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's possibly who you got there. Oh interesting
• 48:47
  Speaker 7: because now after this you go into a car chasing.
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: Nice. I like that, that's cool.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: And another side symbolism that I mean, and just so
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: we know, these aren't always just one to one correspondences.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: There are many different myths and models and ways of
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: seeing this. But of the chariot card, one of the
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: reasons why I think in the normal right or weight
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: deck you get the black and the white because that's
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: a callback to the Phadrius and the idea of our
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: souls being in that chariot and the white and the
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: black horses are what are vying for position to see
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: how much of the forms we get to witness when
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: we are are transmigrating the soul as we are then
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: going to come back into the embodied life to see
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: what aspect we live in.
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: The craftsmen, the warrior of the philosophre king.
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: Even another reason why I wanted to attribute them to
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: and again it could be a grasp, is that they
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: seemed like they would deviate.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: These guys were.
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: Supposed to do exactly what you know they were told
• 49:47
  Speaker 7: to do, so I even feel like you see them
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: like kind of turning to the side, and these you know,
• 49:51
  Speaker 7: it just me.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. It could be a grass, but.
• 49:56
  Speaker 7: Dn I do find I mean, I guess you're gonna
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: get cops anyway, but I do. I was wondering because
• 50:03
  Speaker 7: I've seen it.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: I think, in my opinion, i've seen it.
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: It's a horrible example to use I think insane clown
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: policy and maybe like even other people associated with them
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: will use cop cars or that type of stuff to
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: show Gabor and Chess said symbolism, and I think I've
• 50:18
  Speaker 7: seen that and other stuff anyway, but that could be
• 50:21
  Speaker 7: like the power and the glory, which is what you're
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: coming up to. Was you get ready to cross the Abyss?
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Yep, So I do.
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: And they're the last aspects of protection until you get
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: to the Abyss and above, until we start being a
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: complimentary aspect of the Supernols.
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: Everything else is contradiction.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: And you need that gulberic fire to stop all that
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: is not worthy of crossing the Abyss. And if you
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: are not worthy, you're not willing to give up your ego.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: When you cross the Abyss through Doth, you will become
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: a black brother those.
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: Who did not choose to move through.
• 50:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and there was other stuff like again like I
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: wasn't gonna I didn't cover it. I would like to
• 51:05
  Speaker 7: maybe look at it again, but like this was even
• 51:08
  Speaker 7: stuff that I would have tied into it where believe
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: it or not, I do think like the lead, you know,
• 51:13
  Speaker 7: if you want to take it as them, you know,
• 51:14
  Speaker 7: shooting the lead or whatever the fucking bullets are made of,
• 51:18
  Speaker 7: it would actually there's like certain things will happen to
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: your blood, and uh, I do actually think, believe it
• 51:24
  Speaker 7: or not, that the this cause scene uh is quite possible,
• 51:30
  Speaker 7: like showing stuff in your blood system. I think changing
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: it may sound crazy, but like something I've even noticed
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: that's very weird is I have taken some of the
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: things I'll go over them eventually in the notes that
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: are symbols for the boor if you throw that in
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: or you switch it over it to jamatia. They all
• 51:49
  Speaker 7: match things that they're earning your blood, and I find
• 51:52
  Speaker 7: it very fucking weird, you know what. I do think
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: there's a lot of physiology too, but like I'll even
• 51:58
  Speaker 7: you know, with with blood and the nervousness in the
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: occult anyway, But I mean, if you think about it too,
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: a blood has plasma and I even think that if
• 52:05
  Speaker 7: they understood that ever, that there would be in occultism,
• 52:08
  Speaker 7: because to them that would be like, you know, pockets
• 52:10
  Speaker 7: of light in your blood or electricity, right, you know
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: what I'm saying, If you're really thinking, I do, yeah, yeah,
• 52:16
  Speaker 7: so I do think it's you know, quite possible that
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: there was that stuff in there. I would have had
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: a lot more on it and a lot more to
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: say than that to make it more convincing, but it was.
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: No, that's okay.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: Well, and so everybody knows that nice little Asian man
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: right there beforehand is the key the key maker, and
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: this whole scene what they're doing is after they go
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: to the Merivingian and they go through it's all. Why
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: this is so, why we can use jamatria and why
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: we use symbolism and metaphor for these things is because
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: even Neo speaking to the Merivingian, they're they're speaking in
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: riddles and allegories the whole time.
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: And we would play some of these.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: Scenes for you, but YouTube is such a crazy place
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: that they will fucking copyright so fast. And I've used
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: the matrix clips before and I am like, one of
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: the reasons I've slowed down doing video essays is because
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: I haven't figured out how to not get a fucking
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: copyright claim. And so it's just one of those things
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: that it's fascinating that what they what happens then is
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: then what like we show, did they go into the
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: bathroom scene, she gets that she has to have him
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: sacrifice a bit of his love for him for Trinity,
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: and Trinity has to watch she gets some varyor shit there.
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: Trinity has to.
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: Watch Neo kiss Monica Bulucci and in this scene and
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: he and they have to do this kiss multiple times
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: because she tells him it has to be real. And
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: so there's a slight bit of sacrificing something for the
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: larger cause for the good, and he has to sacrifice
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: a bit of his own arrows to this this persephone
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: like character who's just wishing to have a little bit
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: of love that she doesn't.
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: Get from her inverted devil character.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: And then from there she is like, Okay, come with me.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: And as it comes with me, she is taking him
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: to the key maker because the key maker is the
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: only person who can open the door of light that
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: they need to get to so they can speak to
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: the architect and and upon doing so, then they can
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: help there's this whole thing going on about the matrix
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: and all and UH and the machines going after the Nebecanzer,
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: and then you get Morpheus. So Morpheus, the one who
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: broke Neo Free Morphius, is obviously the sandman, right the
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: morph Morpheus is that character that her Hermes mercurial character
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: who's trying he's he's could be considered partially of the one.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: And so this is also very fascinating as we move
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: ourselves through. The key maker has the key that they need,
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: and the Smiths and UH and the agents are trying
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: to kill and recapture this man who has the exact
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: thing that Neo Trinity and Morpheus need to complete their mission.
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: Okay, nice I just wanted to get.
• 54:52
  Speaker 7: You know what too, and I just realized I didn't
• 54:55
  Speaker 7: get any some reason I left out screenshots.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: That sucks. I thought I.
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: Actually had more, but it was stuff with the house.
• 55:04
  Speaker 7: I'll have to read the notes, because I do have
• 55:05
  Speaker 7: the notes on the stuff that I left out, though, but.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: I can red. Do you remember when they fight in
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: that house. Is it after the call chase?
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: It's been they fight in the house before the car chase.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: Because right now, Neo is on is so fascinating. So
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: they're fighting a badass fight scene in this cool Art
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: Deco style house. Somebody's gonna tell me later that's not
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: art Deco. Doesn't matter, you get the fuck. What I'm
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: saying is a beautiful little room. And Maravinjian's all like,
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: you kissed my woman, you bastard. And she's all like, well,
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: you were having sex with the girl that you just
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: made climax in our restaurant, So you can go, you
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: can go, fly off a handle and so and she
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: walks away because it's that continual I'm going to go
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: against you so you can chase me. It's this cat
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: and mouse mythos that we're continually getting. If you've ever
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: been a relationship or tried to be in one, that
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: is always happening at all times, it doesn't matter how
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: loving it is you, And that keeps that spark of
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: Arros alive, that.
• 56:01
  Speaker 6: We're playing our masculine and feminine roles.
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: And so what ends up happening is now they're fighting
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: against all the exiles of the previous matrixes in that
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: building right here, in this scene right here, and you
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: get to it's amazing, and you get to see Neo
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: Trinity and Morpheus do badass kung fu, which is then
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: it goes back to exactly what Magus in the media
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: is trying to tell you through my voice is fucking
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: learn kung fu and do magic because that's the only way.
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: To defeat the Arkans.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: It's obviously not the only way, but that's through my
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: own voice of trying to get people to just master themselves.
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: And so what ends up happening is then the key
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: Master runs away, and then everyone has to chase after him.
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: And Neil's the last person to go through the door.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: And as he opens the door because the key Master
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: shut it from everyone else, and Neo busts through it,
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: so he doesn't have the right key to get through it,
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: and and now he's in the fucking where's he Shambala?
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: He's in like the Andes Mountains or in the Himalayan Mountains,
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: which is in the occult like the mystical mountains of Shimbala.
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: So it's an interesting like we were in dreamland right
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: in the tree.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: We're like somewhere in dreamland fighting the mystical fucking cathonic
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: entities as we're trying to climb the tree, again and
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, the one which is you and
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: you and everyone else out there, they bust through this
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: door without the correct key, and once you have the
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: correct key, you can get through the right doors. And
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: upon doing so, now Neo is trying to fly back
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: to everybody as now you go, you get to that
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: chase scene that you're talking that you're talking about.
• 57:36
  Speaker 7: So that's the yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So
• 57:40
  Speaker 7: even like now looking at it, like when I was
• 57:42
  Speaker 7: even saying that the chariot one year, like around Gebora
• 57:48
  Speaker 7: and Chessa, the chariot is after that, going up to
• 57:52
  Speaker 7: where I think the architect would be. So I do,
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: but now I want to show I totally screwed up.
• 57:59
  Speaker 7: That's what I forgot because I now I just took
• 58:01
  Speaker 7: this screenshot before they go on that chase. They go
• 58:05
  Speaker 7: into this house where you said that they fight and yes,
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: my venge is there and he's like, yeah, whatever, my
• 58:10
  Speaker 7: fucking girl this and that I only got one screenshot
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: just real quick.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: I was still looking. I was even a pull it
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: off now.
• 58:17
  Speaker 7: But the symbols for uh chess at and at chests
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: at Gobora, that that that sphere that is Goobora on
• 58:26
  Speaker 7: the left side of the tree that then the path
• 58:30
  Speaker 7: of the chariot comes out of to go up the tree.
• 58:33
  Speaker 7: The symbols for that one would be the sword, discourage,
• 58:39
  Speaker 7: the pentagon, the five pedal, Tutoros, the chain, the warrior,
• 58:45
  Speaker 7: the chariot, the scurge, the sword and chain. If you
• 58:50
  Speaker 7: look at everything that's inside that place, now.
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: You're using all of those things.
• 58:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Like and then you even have like all
• 58:58
  Speaker 7: these god statues and stuff that if you watch, they're
• 59:00
  Speaker 7: all getting destroyed during the fight too. So I'm even
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: wondering is they're even symbol some like destroying your old
• 59:06
  Speaker 7: belief systems now just.
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that destruction of the old as as
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: the Great gin the Ninja would say, let's not get
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: stuck in the long house.
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: Just yeah. And that's destroying the aon of Osiris. That's great.
• 59:18
  Speaker 7: And I was even wondering if this may have been
• 59:20
  Speaker 7: kind of like going from you know how I said,
• 59:22
  Speaker 7: both of them looked like they went to Tiffaret. Then
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: you do have strength going from like Tifferett up to uh.
• 59:29
  Speaker 7: I think that would be uh Gabora and that would
• 59:33
  Speaker 7: be strength. So I was wondering if this whole scene
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: was representing that maybe to an extent. The other one
• 59:38
  Speaker 7: would be the hermit going up.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: To Jupiter or Chess said. Chesshad sorry, and I didn't.
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: I don't know if that would be the key maker,
• 59:49
  Speaker 7: but I don't know, like that was like kind of
• 59:51
  Speaker 7: a stretch, But I was just trying to, you know,
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: get an idea of like how I looked at it before,
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: because you do have the chariot then goes up the
• 59:57
  Speaker 7: other you know, well.
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: The hermit is a holder of the keys of the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: great lamp of light, and that key that the key
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: maker has is opening up the door of light to
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: get to the architect, which then would be Chess.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: It would be Chokma right.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: So yes, yes, yes, because everything when you get to
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: the architect.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 7: You could kind of look at that, as Chess said,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 7: but if you even look at the colors, the guy's
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: got white hair in a great suit.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: That's total. That's total.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: Uh, that's that's that's total.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Yea, it is which is the higher arc of Chess
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: shit really.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: Of chested Yes, and trust Chess, it would be Jupiter, yes,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: you know, and so it is the guy who thinks
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: he did it all.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Somebody else again, who thinks the charge right?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: And that seems to be what we're facing everyone, even
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: in our own life. Everyone thinks they're in charge. Little
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: do they know it's not. And that makes me think
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: of Robert Anton Wilson's quote when he says, you know,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: who is the master who makes the grass green?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: You know, and like the ego will say, well, it
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: is I. But as soon as you open up those doors,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: it's continual doors all the way down.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 8: There is.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: See.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 7: I even think he's very much chokemo because of the
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: you know, the colors on him, especially he's I would
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: even kind of almost associate him with like Janice maybe,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 7: and because of Janice the colors and where he falls
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 7: in seven seven seven and a certains you know, the
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 7: like kind of I guess like if you know, the
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 7: key would be associated with a lock in the door,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 7: and Janice is very much kind of goes with that,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 7: I think, or even the hinge to a door, if
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 7: you want to get a little bit more deeper, That's
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: what I think. It kind of really is something that
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 7: can you know, the duality.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, nice, And then you get the background there
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: where you get all the different other NEOs from the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: last matrixes and that's where Neil realizes he's just another pawn.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: The different versions of him that because they all even
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: start acting different too. At one point. Did you ever
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: see Ipeck Goat?
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: I didn't.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's very like an occult like cartoon. It's really weird.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 7: But there's a part where it shows kind of like
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 7: it gives you kind of like a Jesus figure and
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 7: it shows like all these other kind of like almost
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 7: like etheric bodies of like dupilicates of itself, and then
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 7: all of a sudden, he just like jumps up to
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 7: the sky and all the other ones die. And I
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 7: even think, like when you get to this point, like
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 7: he's even seeing all the massive versions of himself, that's
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 7: a possible.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 6: That's crazy. Is it true?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: That's the book that Bush was reading to the children
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: in Florida at the time of September eleven attacks.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 6: That's wild.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Hm hm.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 7: That's interesting because they do, uh, they do kind of
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 7: like show Bush in a sense at the beginning of it.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I think that's what it just said,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: Like living was what Bush was reading the kids at Sarasota,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: Florida in nine to eleven.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know it.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 7: I might have even Yo, me and Lux covered that
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 7: we might eve even have mentioned it fucking five years
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 7: ago and I don't even remember. But yeah, that's it's weird.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 7: It's a weird, fucking very interesting. Yeah, so, like I
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 7: even just equated to this. If anybody's ever seen ipeck,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 7: got they know what I'm talking about. If they don't, sorry,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 7: but yeah, I do think it kind of just even
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 7: shows Neo there as all those guys on the screen.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 7: Are you think are even versions of himself that he
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 7: has to let go of the reason why I don't
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 7: think he crosses now he.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Can't let go of Trinity?
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: Yep, yeah, you have to.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 7: I think you kind of gotta be like and I've
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 7: equated it to like Michael Myers and even even Jason
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 7: and I think, uh, Freddy, if you kind of look
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 7: at their characters, they gotta well, one, they're always chasing
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 7: like a chick for some fucking reason.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: Hey, they they will fucking kill everything and everyone.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 6: Hmm.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: They are beasts.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 7: I think that a lot of them are actually a
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 7: cult symbolism, and that's technically. I think what you have
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 7: to do to have a magical experience, you have to
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 7: be willing and it I mean he kind of even
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 7: has said a little bit in Crolly's work, you gotta
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 7: be willing to give up fucking everything, and it.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 6: Actually reminds me of to have everything everything.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: Avatar The Last Airbender is there's a scene where Aang
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: is about to merge with his cosmic consciousness and he
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: can have complete control of his Avatar state. One of
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: the greatest cartoons which is a not a cartoon, but
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: it is a cartoon of all time animated series, Avatar
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: The Last Airbender. And what can he not give up
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: and it closes off his crown chakra, is that he
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: can't give up his love for Katara, for the lady
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: that he wants to be with, and so then he
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: cannot reach his Avatar state until the very end where
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: he finally has to realize he has to give up
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: all attachments, and then he does realize that then he
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: can still have her in the end. It's just you
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: need to not be attached and that true authentic love
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: is an unattached kind of love.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 6: Which is hard. It's fucking hard to deal with it.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 6: Every every day I feel like.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Going to like kill everything around you and just make
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: it dead to you.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and not be lost in the abyss of nihilism,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 6: which is so hard.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fine line, man.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 6: Uh huh, Yeah, I agree, but yeah, that kind of
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 6: like my uh.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: Might take on all that shit right there.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: No, that's beautiful.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: And I think there's something you were telling me about
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: how when they're chasing each other. Do you have a
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: picture of the car scene?
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: No, I was trying to be quick with that. I
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: was afraid to have too many images you.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: No, No, that's okay. There's a picture of the on
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: the thumbnail. I have in the background a picture of
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: the of the car scene. And I think it's fascinating.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: Is that okay?
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: So it's like in all movies there's always a chasing
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: car scene. But I think this is fascinating. When I
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: was traveling across the country a few years ago, the
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: blood and the veins of this country are the interstate
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: and the highways connecting our entire country. Every gas station
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: is like your is an artery where the blood now
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: needs to pump itself through back out to the inner state.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: And every city is like an organ pumping it and
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: helping each everything. And so it's a fascinating thing in
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: the matrix and how to get the key to where
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: it must go, you go through chasing itself through the
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: veins and the vessels of the and I'm going to
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: relate it to this on the tree of life. What
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: we're trying to do is you're trying to actualize the
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: atom Catamon. So Adam Catamon is the human figure that
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: stands about the tree and at the top of him,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: and each sephera associates itself with a part of the tree.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: And for those out there, you can go to the
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: middle pillar work of as a regardi and you get
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: a great symbol of what I'm talking about there. But
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: and it's one of those fascinating things is that so
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: with the veins and the vessels of this scene, it's
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: actually moving all things that we need. And uh, in
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: my in my my taichi at teachings and practice, when
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: I'm teaching students and when i'm learning myself, is that
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: people always ask, well, what is chi And you know,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: there's all this idea of the metaphysical understanding of this,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: and it gets really woo woo, and that's something I'm
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: trying to stay away from at all times. But the
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: first thing you feel when you start to feel this
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: etheric oric, this chi this prana, is you you're actually
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: feeling blood moving to parts of your limbs that you
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: don't normally have it to.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 7: See, And I really like there was even stuff like that.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 7: I'm not like making it up. There was even stuff
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 7: that I was even going to kind of talk about,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 7: like with the blood a lot like what you were
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 7: saying with the rhodes. I took that as kind of
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 7: like veins, but I didn't even go I would never
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 7: have gone with that. So I'm like, damn, I wish
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 7: I was like, maybe I'm when I maybe I should
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 7: get my notes together for this.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: In a few weeks or a month or two.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 6: We'll do it again.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, because I was like, he's actually gonna help
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: my case.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: I will bro it like I'm like a used car salesman.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: I'll fucking sell anything. And the idea is to try
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: not to be a charlatan while I do it.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 7: But I do think, like, you know, even when you
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 7: saw looking like what's inside blood again, you know, with
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 7: the plasma, there's even white white blood cells, red blood cells,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 7: So like, there was a lot of things that I
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 7: even think those two dudes might even fit like you
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 7: know those white dudes.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Uh inside you know the fight?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 6: What is?
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: There was another thing Fuck, I can't remember. It was
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: something that you said that reminded me of it.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 7: Oh, even with you're still looking inside of blood too,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 7: Like you're going to start to realize like how much electricity,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 7: believe it or not, yes, is.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: In there and a lot of things.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 7: And it's like what I'm trying to show coming up
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 7: with the gap with brain waves, you know, all those
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 7: Gama beta for all that stuff, all that really is
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 7: and you'll start seeing and going on in blood as well,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 7: where now down to like the most basic thing when
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 7: it's a lot of basically kind of just showing a
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 7: difference in electro magnetism and things are shifting depending on
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 7: how much or how little like that will even be
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 7: the difference like in the brain waves is that they're
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 7: actually being measured by that idea. Yeah, so like everything
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 7: kind of comes down to the reaction of like electricity
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 7: and magnetism.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 6: Yep, No, you're fucking nailing it.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 7: And even though I and that's right, I mean nervous
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 7: system especially comes in that I know you're huge on.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 7: I think then that electricity or whatever that information is,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 7: stimulus then attacks us in different ways in a nervous
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 7: system is one of them, and that generates our reality
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 7: depending on what system we've adopted and been put in.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's amazing, And it's amazing because that's exactly what
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: the Dallists we're getting at with their with Taichi and
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: their and the practice of Taichi and Dallas magic and
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: sorcery is that you get the positive of the negative
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: aspects of the electromagnetic body the bioelectric body, and that
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: is in and Young and the ever coalescing of these
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: two into the Wougie and back out to the Taichi diagram,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: and that is what's going one of the ways of viewing,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: and I think one of the best ways of viewing
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: the polarities as they move itself through the nervous the
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: nervous system which is and the heart which isn't an
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: oregon but is actually it's not just a pump, but
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: is actually a torsion field that produces an electro bioelectric
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: current in the world.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: Yoh, I bet you.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 7: Most people don't even realize. Maybe you know, the heart
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 7: actually unravels too. It's even spiral.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, uh huh.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: And so it's such a fascinating It goes back to
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: kind of what we're talking about in the beginning, is
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: it's like it's really important for us not to just
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: be spoon fed bits of information, but to go into
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: it and truly go down the rabbit hole into these
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: alternative ways of seeing things because of what we're being
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: told is something that is trying to keep us within
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: the mechanistic functionalist worldview, which sees the body as a
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: machine and the soul as not even there, you know
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: what I mean. It's and consciousness is something that is
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: only produced by the brain instead of the brain being
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: a receiving antenna, the brain nervous system of consciousness as
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: it moves through.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 6: And so it's such a fascinating way.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: To understand that that and it's what Kaive and I
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: were talking about in our livestream on Monday night is
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: that we need to understand that the people in charge,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: right like the architect, are cold individuals who see things
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: and people as soldiers for their cause and not like
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: warriors who have their own heart and will of their own.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 7: That is that is amazing because I think if when
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 7: I say a few things. I think if you look
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 7: at even the devil gout of ma Revenging and then
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 7: the Architect, that one's just a higher arc of the
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 7: other one. One just has even less empathy or even
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 7: give a fuck about anything. This guy at least was
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 7: getting off on manipulating people. This dude is like, no,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 7: it's just this way that way, and that's it, motherfucker,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 7: you know, just to the point zero fucks, you know
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 7: what I'm saying.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: So I think you even see that on an arc.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 7: But like again, even going back to you know again,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 7: to go back to your nervous system stuff, something I
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 7: think that I wanted to get into more. I might
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 7: have started getting into a little bit again with Merrivingian.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 7: You know, he again I think could be Toath and
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 7: or Ho and there would Mercury would be there.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Now he's considered a messenger. And then now he's considered
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: a messenger.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 7: And then if you look at this guy, what he
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 7: is doing to that woman is he's basically basically sending
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 7: a message to her nervous system.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 7: And if you want to get like a little weird
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 7: about it, she's even eating a black cake. And if
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 7: I want to go back to the whole electric at magnetism,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 7: you would have the black pillow would be magnetism, the
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 7: right pillow would be electricity. And she's taking in magnetism,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 7: which is just going to fucking fluctuate that whole system
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 7: and create feelings and create this and that and so
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 7: so what I even think a lot of times too,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 7: And I've even done some symbolism on my art.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know if people even notice.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 7: Well, I'll give myself angel wings, but they're actually nervous systems.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 7: I do think some of the messengers angels is just
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 7: our nervous systems sending us messages. Messengers nice and certain
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 7: ones might represent certain angels because it's a major one,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 7: you know, what I'm saying or something like that, But
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 7: I or what part of the brain it taps into,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 7: you know.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: But I do think it's quite possible that even.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 7: Angels are representing our nervous system sending us messages.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, and angels itself I think originates from the
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: Greek and jealous, which means messenger. And so that's fucking
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: like brilliant, and I think that's amazing because then angels
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: are portrayed in like biblical terms as messengers or attendants
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: of God or servants, and they that is like their function,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: that's their function to to be there for humans at
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: all times. So that's that's Angela's meaning messenger.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 6: So yeah, you're you're hitting it right there.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: And I think it's interesting to think of the nervous
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: system as that as being able to produce this etheric field,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: aura or whatever, this vehicle, the diamond body, the Merkaba,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: which is the chariot, which goes back to your chariot
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: symbolism as the as you're trying to build the Merkaba
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: mysticism is the idea is that you're building the Merkaba
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: as your chariot to ascend to the heavens and have
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: your yeah, to merge with God and to be God,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: not to be the God, but to realize.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 6: That divine spark within and to merge with the one.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, man, nice, that's beautiful, all right.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: So yeah, everybody should go out and rewatch the matrix
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: and not take in the nonsensical transgender agenda that these
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: Wakowski siblings are trying to push on us.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 6: Isn't that fucking nonsense?
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: We got all about that ship.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, I hate that shit, and I get it,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: and we when we had Chris Knowles on, He's like, actually,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: I can kind of see it, and I'm all, like,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: I know, but I don't want to see it.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 6: That's so stupid, which.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: Then kind of makes me realize that I don't. So
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: there's a couple of mythologies out there. On mythologies, there's
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: a couple conspiracies out there that state that the Wakowski
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: siblings didn't actually create the.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: Matrix that it was.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: And I don't like the idea that it was that
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: black woman who's saying she did that, and the terminator
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: is the first part of that, and then in the
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: matrix a second that's stupid. But actually there's a guy
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: that Greg Carlwood had on I Believe that was like, no,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: actually I wrote, I listened to the whole thing. He
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: puts on a fascinating dialogue of he has the whole
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: script and they just slightly changed it when they put
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: out the Matrix. So there's this other guy who's got
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: a whole thing. He's like, I'm the one who made this.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: They stole my idea. I've made all these other movies.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: It has an inkling of Philip K. Dick with all
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: these other kind of sci fi stuff, and I think
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: it's really fascinating. And so yeah, and then the Wakowski
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: siblings stole that, which is why they didn't allow anyone
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: on set to read the script, and so as everyone
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: none of the actors got to know what was being
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: said before they got on scene, which is also kind
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: of crazy to think about. And so it's just fascinating,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: is like, what is what is being presented to us
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: in this strange ocean of chaos, in a world where
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: we're seeing meta narrations of what's actually happening, And if
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: you choose to know and understand the signs and the symbols,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: and I think what you're getting at, Nick is that
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: with the major arcana and the taro, you're supposed to,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: as a magician or a mystic, look at the world
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: and see God in all things, which is what I
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: really like about John Saint John. That's Crowley's workings when
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: he finally reached the knowledge of the Conversation of his Angel, right.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 6: Great book. I fucking love that's his journals, and I
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 6: think they're fascinating.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah, did I ever tell you about the vision and
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 7: the voice, Oh, what about it? I have to send
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 7: you some stuff.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 7: There was somebody I knew, somebody I knew that went
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 7: down to the library that has like his handwritten notes
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 7: on it. Because yeah, it's like it's showing like before
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 7: I got edited and so yeah, because when you were
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 7: just saying that now, it just brought me back to
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 7: that thinking about like how it's really interesting to see
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 7: like his actual thoughts and opinions on like what he's
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 7: writing and talking about. I think that's a lot of
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 7: that in with with the stuff that they have. It's
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 7: that's some college in Western Texas. I can't remember.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: Jason Louve I think talked about that. Didn't he in
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: one of these did?
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 7: I could see it would make sense if he did,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 7: because like I think, you know, certain things that I
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 7: came across and I didn't even look through a lot
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 7: of it, but I have tons of it that was
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 7: sent to me to look at.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: And the problem is it's actually copyrighted, so to show.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 6: It, Oh, we can't do a streamline, is what you're saying.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Unfortunately, the problem is is that you know what's
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 7: so funny is that I was like, you know what
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 7: fucking find out.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Who the contact is.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and reach out and see if we can.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 7: I found out who it was, and it's the same
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 7: woman that through the DMCA strike on me the first time.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: No way, I just figured like, there's no chance.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 6: In hell now no guardians in the threshold at all.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 7: But but like we were talking like before, maybe not
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 7: everybody's known to be Yeah, maybe not everybody's not to
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 7: be associated with me.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: Maybe somebody else.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 6: Can look at huh, I got a real nice smile.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 7: Go back and see the media here wants to uh,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 7: you know, technically this is the saddest thing is that
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 7: I do actually and it's not again to promote this ship.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 7: But I think if I was to actually show this
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 7: stuff and it show at least gave my opinion to like,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 7: you know, and show you like what he's actually doing,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 7: it actually like helps them to make it look like, yeah,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 7: it actually like to actually show this guys, like you
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 7: will definitely see it's he makes shit ciphered for for real.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 7: You'll see him do the math on the side. You'll
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 7: see him take certain words and then fucking make sure
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 7: it's in what he's writing over here. You know, you
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 7: see him doing the math for Rose to insert Rose
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 7: into his ship. So it's like, you know, you gotta
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 7: wonder he's talking about his girls, you talking about the flowers,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 7: he's talking about whatever word that matches Rose and Hebrew,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 7: Jamatri or Greek, you know. And even he had a
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 7: little bit of opinions of certain people too that I
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 7: think you do. You probably would be very surprised about.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 7: You know, he used certain words and I'm sure they
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 7: would shun.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: Of course, of course.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: And I think it's interesting how he is even though
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: he's kind of put out there as the radical liberal
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: libertarian kind of character, he had a lot of very
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: traditional conservative views, and.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 7: I think he did regardless of him still being whatever
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 7: you know, people say, yea, even he was like if
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 7: he was bisexual or not, I still think there was
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 7: even certain views on him that he was.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: He wasn't as liberal as I think they think. You Yeah,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: And again I think.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 7: If you look at some of the ship he says,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 7: if you take out the context of like just how
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 7: they talked back, then I do think he was shitting
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 7: on people with certain things that he said. Though just
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 7: the way he said it sounded so nice, and I
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 7: just think in that sense, like the guy wouldn't have
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 7: been doing that if he was really, I don't know
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 7: the person they make him out to.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I I know, I agree, and I think
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: he would be shitting on a lot of the Felamites
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: and the Croleites out there massively fascinating.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: What the fuck happened?
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what happened is exactly what I didn't want to happen.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: It's almost like they forgot to read his material.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 7: He would be like, Yo, you guys fucked us Alid,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 7: What the fuck is the entity? Oh that has nothing,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 7: he swear, have got nothing to do with any like
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 7: sexual weird you know, identities or any of that stuff.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 7: It's just the way that, I hate to say, the
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 7: way the order is going. I think I just my opinion.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 7: I think you'd be very upset.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, oh no, for sure.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: Especially what was the guy who just did an interview?
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: Did you watch that interview? Or the guy who was
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: a part of the OTO and he quit and he
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: did a response video to what he experienced.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: In the OT saw Jason Luke. Yes, I watched that.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 7: Yo, that Yo, that was wild. I will even tell
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 7: you straight up obviously because he was a lot higher
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 7: than me. There was stuff that he said that to
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 7: me would make sense because there is even times that
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 7: I said when I took the second degree, they will
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 7: tell you after the second degree, they will tell you
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 7: like certain things that are needed for every degree above that.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 7: Now that's kind of like a checklist, but they're not
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 7: giving you everything. They just give you like certain like
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 7: one thing. And you know there was at one point
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 7: it's like you had to be with somebody that was
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 7: in the order itself. So then when you start listening
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 7: to what this guy says, it kind of makes sense,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 7: but it's like fuck, Like he got up a lot
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 7: hot and there was shit that he said.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: In that show that I was like, yo, I actually
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: did not even know the OTO was like that, And.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 7: Like I hate to say it, but I'm like, yo,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 7: I was like that order might have been a little
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 7: bit more fucked up than I even thought it was.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: No, I think so. And I'm even looking up right now.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: It only ever says ex OTO member. And I can't
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: get what his name is, but you can go to it.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: His thing is the turning of the sky? Is it?
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 6: Intell akea?
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: Is that his I don't remember his name anyway, you
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: can go to Jason loves and him and his girl
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: watched the whole thing and it was fascinating. I got
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: myself a little a little turned up and was drying
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: doing some errands, and I was listening to it, and
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: I'm all like, and there's stuff that we know because
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: of you can read between the lines and you know
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: people in this community, and you're all like, fuck the
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: fuck well, and it's fascinating that they still back up
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: this this institution.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 7: There was h you know, it's interesting. When I came
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 7: out a couple of days after that, I ended up
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 7: speaking with somebody.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 7: I don't want to put them out there, but yes,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 7: somebody who used to be an OTO member themselves.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: And they were in it.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 7: They were in it a lot when they joined. It
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 7: was probably like almost ten years before I did. It's
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 7: just they left for a bit and then came back
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 7: and then started doing initiations. And then that's how like
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 7: we ended up like knowing each other, because you know,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 7: the person came back when I was there when I started,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 7: and so like this person knew of the organization a
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 7: lot longer than I did, and there were certain things
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 7: that they, like this person kind of confirmed in certain
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 7: ways that I was like, oh, like there was weird
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 7: shit going on sometimes it just wasn't at the.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 6: Lodge, right right, right, right that.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: And I've always said I've even said that honestly on
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: the show. I always did say that.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 7: I said, I at the Lodge is this is a thing,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 7: And like I would say it out other people too,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 7: and I don't think they like it.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: Like, first off, my opinion, if you've never walked into
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: one of.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 7: These places yourself, I don't think you really should be
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 7: an expert of what's going on inside these walls.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: But I do think the weirder shit is going to.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 7: Need to be something probably more private and not held
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 7: at a public place technically because they are open to
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 7: the public, is it, Yeah, in certain times, Yeah, it's
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 7: open to the public.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 7: People can just come off the streets and come to
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 7: a gnostic mess if they think this is yeah.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: So uh yeah, so like you know, kind of this person.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 7: Even you know, at least gave me a little bit
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 7: of a defense of the things that I've said in
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 7: the past that I do think if any there was
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 7: weird or freaky shit, it was normally done at you know, private,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 7: private place.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes sense, and it goes to the idea
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: that just because you're initiated into an institution doesn't mean
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: you actually know what the fuck you're doing, and that
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: you have actually qualmed your lower desires and animalistic desires,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: which is the whole point of the initiations, the whole
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: point of doing your magic and your mysticism and your
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: embodied practice and your study and your knowledge is to
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: understand if you're only doing it in on the pillow,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: in your space, and then you go out in the
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: world and you're still You're still locked up and in
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: like with your own problems, drug problems, sex problems, eating problems.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: Like one of the biggest things I can't stand is
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: all these gurus and spiritual people out there, and yet
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: they have like they look like Jaba the Hut, And
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: I'm all, like, why the fuck would I go get.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 6: A tarot reading from Joba the Hut? You know what
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 6: I mean?
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: You know what I want job of the Hut to do.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: I want Joba the Hut to fucking be to sell
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: me mercenary goods or some shit like that. I don't know,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: you know, So that's my.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 6: Own I think.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if I shoh.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 6: It's nothing to say. You don't have to, but if
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 6: you do, it's funny. I can only imagine.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 7: It's just like yo, like, if you can't even put
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 7: down the fork, don't tell me how to live.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: That's exactly that's no.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 4: I completely agree when we're going to because Kaiva goes
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: to all these holistic expos right, and she does her
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: readings and things like that, and there's so many nice
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: people there. But at the same time, there's so many
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: people where I'm all like, it's so fascinating to see
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: people try to set up a booth and then sell
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: a something when you can tell that they just went
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: and had like Dominoes or pizza Hut, or they just
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: ate from the buffet line at the Golden Corral, And
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: I'm all like, how can that person be in touch
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: with any higher spirits? You know, like it doesn't mean
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: you have to use especially for Instagram. I know, I
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: already got some hate on whoever that woman is. I
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: got sent to h I was trying to sell some
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: kind of mystical spray. The only the only kind of
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: mystical spray you can have is the one that I
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: consecrated in my temple.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 6: With my ritual which you can watch me have on
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 6: Instagram and then yeah you can, yeah you do, and
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 6: it's and so I I typed into it.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 4: I was all like, this has got this looks like
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: a used car salesman spiritual joke, and so it's fascinating.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 6: How then all of a sudden, it's like I put
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 6: in there. I was like, is this a joke? And
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 6: somebody said, if you don't like it, you can keep scrolling,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 6: and I'm like, what the fuck?
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: You know, like that's awful. This is this is if
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: people want to they should go out there. Even though
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: I don't like Togium trunk, but you can his spiritual materialism.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: It's it's it's written all in it.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: Man, spiritual materialism.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 8: Yo.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 7: I hate to say, but that's a lot of what
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 7: that will will fucking fake shit is yeah. Yeah, they're
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 7: going to start LARPing to give an image. You don't
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 7: realize like that's like, I'm going to keep it real.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 7: You want to start dressing up like that and stuff.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 7: It's your money, like you're actually like, like it's not
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 7: Louis Baton, but it's a little bit you know, obviously cheap,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 7: but it's still good. You know, if you if you
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 7: want to see all right, you want to start dressing
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 7: like Georgina Rose.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure that's not cheap, and it's like
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: I'm not I hate that.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 6: I just through it. Yeah yeah, yeah, but.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: You just wanted people to get a really good idea
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: of what I'm talking about.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, her cottage core look, and she makes fun of herself,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: I think, so that's just part of it is that
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: that's expensive. Her Victorian fucking sweet pea look is is crazy.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 7: It's like, how much of a material is spiritual materialists
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 7: if you become now you know, these people like I
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 7: just I don't know, it's just.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 6: What it's as easy as just wear normal clothes.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: It's like for me, it's like I'm trying to we're
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: trying to be better individuals, and so I like to
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: you know, I went through my own hippie phases.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 6: That was a large part of my early.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: Twenties when I was going to college, was my you know,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: tie I fucking took a lot of acid, took a
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: lot of cannabis, and I started tie dying clothes like
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: we all do. And you know, but then you get
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: out of it because it's like I want to be
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: taken seriously. And so one of the things is it's
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: like it is a fake it till you make it.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: But what does a magician look like? And it's like
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: you start to think about it, You're like, well, I
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 4: don't want to look like Jared fucking Letto, and I'm
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: not gonna just wear all white pajamas everywhere I go,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: you know, because.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not looking to start a cult.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: I joke about starting a cult, Don't get me wrong,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: because I would be a great cult leader.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 6: But but that's not what I want because it's not
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 6: about me, it's about.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: It would never turn out good anyway, it would never
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: turn out good.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, I would get way into my head.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: And that goes back to your lower desires.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: If not even that, the FEDS will fuck it up
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: and say you were doing something Nase.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's so true. It's so there's a lot
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 6: of times.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 7: I actually think some of these cults get raided because
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 7: they have free energy, and they fucking Feds just come
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 7: up with another reason why.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 6: They do they do.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: They are always coming up with other reasons, and that's
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: what's so fascinating. So everyone out there. I just listened
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: to and I sent this to you, Nick. I just
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: listened to Peter Lavenda's WI Files conversation, and it's another
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: proof that the Three letter agencies and the FEDS and
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: the military industrial complex are integrated.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 6: Into all things. Religion is not separate from the state.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: In these three ligities are deeply integrated into the occult
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: and the Western esoteric spheres because they're all practicing these
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: things on the side. And so it's fucking crazy to
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: think that people are just like rebels or renegades away
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: from a system when you've just become another part of
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 4: the system.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 6: And that goes back to the matrix.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 4: Neo was just another part of the system until he
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: chose something that the Architect didn't think that he would do,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: and that was to go after Trinity and save her,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: revive her. And then all of a sudden he had
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 4: to He went up in the third one against the
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: AI cyborgs itself, which we're I mean, as much as
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: we think it's an it's allegory, which it is and metaphor,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: it's also what we're seeing today because it's exactly what
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: Sam Altman is doing with CHATCHBT. It's exactly what Palenteer's
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 4: doing with Peter t. With Palanteer palunteers deeply integrated into
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: the Council of Nine and and the Collins Elite and
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: all these everything that's going on right now. Hunt a
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: virus is yo.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: I just heard about that shit.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 6: I was like, oh, no, isn't it fucking crazy?
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: And then Kaiva's all like, actually, Brandon, I don't even
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: really do we even know there's anybody on that boat.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 6: And I'm all like, I fucking love you, I fucking
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 6: love you.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: We don't we have no idea if it's real or not,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 4: because it's on a fucking imaginary boat in the middle
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: of an imaginary ocean.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 7: Even think of it this way, since the War of
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 7: the World, remember when that shit appeared on a radio
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 7: I do, yes, Yeah, so that that proved to everybody, Yeah,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 7: we don't even have to see something, right scared. Yeah,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 7: so I even I swear to guy, I think like,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 7: could they even just film some sort of alien landing
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 7: and put it on TV and people would just believe
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 7: it was real anyway, it never even fucking happened, Like,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 7: just h you don't you don't even have to be there,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 7: just the image now of its being played by the
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 7: news and then every conspiracy theorist having an opinion about it.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 7: It is just gonna make you know, some people think
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 7: it's real regardless and you'll get panicked.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: And that's the idea, is that we need to separate
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: ourselves from what is coming to edis on the screen,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: because these screens are black mirrors that are stealing your
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: energy and your loose and they're ciphering it from you
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: to give it to the fucking AI Sumerian Racon that's
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: trying to control the system. And even if it's like, well,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: that's a funny comic book and I'm like, it's a
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: I've read it, it's great. But the idea is that
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 4: it like it, think of it metaphorically, think of it allegorically.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: It doesn't even have to be something that is an
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: AI r con or a fucking alien or an ultra
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: intradimensional but most likely it is we live in funny line.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 7: Uh, it's a shame shout out to myself. In a
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 7: couple of weeks I have with the Mechanics of Mechanics
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 7: of Magic. It's a series that I'm trying to do
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 7: to show, like you know, science tied into certain magic stuff.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 7: I do get into, uh, the scrying mirror describing, and
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 7: that's like this scrying is like one of the whole
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 7: episodes is just you know, unscrying and like the effects
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 7: on the brain and everything regardless in the eyes.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: But I do end with the phone.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 7: And if you kind of look at if you want
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 7: to look at the scrying, these even scrying or being
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 7: used maybe you know in a positive sense, the way
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 7: our phone is like a total opposite. It's like the
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 7: complete perversion m m. And it's like who's fucking using who?
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: Now? Yeah, no, that's exactly. I like that a lot,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 6: and the idea, you know why.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 7: You might have studies showing you how these phones are
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 7: fucking us up. I was even thinking about a whole show. No,
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 7: just psychologically, there's actually enough studies on that it's like
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 7: mind blowing that it's like and nobody talks about this,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 7: like seriously, there's actual, like legit scientific and academic studies
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 7: that are taken series where it shows you what these
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 7: social media apps and what these phones are doing to
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 7: us is fucking our heads up.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, And what's fascinating is then that actually
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 4: I came up to that with Daniel Lane when I
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: had my conversation with her yesterday, because she's creating palanoid productions,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 4: because she and her team are trying to state how
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 4: it actually matters who's creating these things. And so the
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: technology in and of itself is a double edged sword,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: which like Prometheus with Fight with bringing the fire to us,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 4: it is both a positive and negative depending upon who's
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: using it and who's creating it. And so if it's
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: coming from interesting enough, all these fucking silicone like Valley,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: I'm not, I don't know, hate but they're all homos
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: and so it's a fascinating thing.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 6: How it's like San Altman, Peter Tiel, they're all gay men. JD.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: Hans, who's hit non Erica Kirk And so it's a
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: it's a fascinating it's a fact.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 6: And you know, and so that's a joke. I don't
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 6: that's you know, that's connected or not.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know, But you have to realize that like
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: we're putting all of our pennies and all of our
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: technological know how into this minority report system, and that
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 4: system is we can see it happening because our visionaries
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 4: and profits of our science fiction, dystopian and fantasy stories
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: have been talking about it, and now we're seeing it
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: come true. And so anybody out there is all like, well,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 4: those are just stories, and I'm all like, well, everything
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 4: starts out just as a story. Just think of yourself
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: as a caveman drawing the cave paintings of a diet
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: of a fucking a saber tooth tiger, and you attacking it.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 6: Then what do you do.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 4: You go fucking out there and you attack the saber
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: tooth tiger or whatever it is you're trying to kill
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: the deer, and then you do exactly what you drew.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: Because art is magic. And so if enough people are
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: writing about these things, they're seeing the writing on the wall.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: And if we out here are not trying to help
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: understand and rewrite the mythology, rewrite the stories, then all
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: of a sudden, we're gonna get somebody else's stories, and
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: those stories are gonna come true, and it's not the
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 4: kind of story we want, because, as Robert Anton Wilson stated,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: the Illuminati, Yes, there are Illuminati out there, not really,
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 4: but there are there are people, but there are so
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 4: many counter valent egos. So it's hard to just make
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: it all true all the time. But the Illuminati is
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 4: your five closest friends around you, which is then why
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 4: things like the Occult Rejects is so important, and why
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 4: like Mega's in the media, why we're coming together and
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: having these conversations because we're trying to rewrite the script
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: away from what these other people are doing, Right, don't
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: you feel that?
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 7: That's I mean, that's why I even choose the route
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 7: that I even go with what I do on my stuff.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 7: It's not something that's kind of widely done, and I
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 7: do think this there's something there, and like you know,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 7: other people on the show, like Jin, I don't know
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 7: a damn thing about his stuff except for what he's
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 7: told me and taught me. You know what I'm saying,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 7: A complete different system saying with some of yous. Yeah,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 7: but yeah, I mean everybody. Uh, I mean, I will say,
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 7: like not to make it sound like people think of
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 7: some illuminati shit, but I do look at the show
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 7: as kind of like a magical eggurgoor in itself with
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 7: all of us.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 6: One hundred percent. No, I think the one hundred percent.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 9: And I do want it to make an impact on
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 9: the eco community. Before we're all dead. I too, Yeah,
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 9: I do too, because what else are we doing this
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 9: in a positive way?
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 6: A positive one?
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, which is then sometimes while we got
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: to take the flaming sword of reason to cut away
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: all the nonsense, other people can do it at any time.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 6: So I don't know if you heard it.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: Gin on our last fucking live stream, was like, I'm
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: the I'm speaking as jin, I'm the best fucking cobblest
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 4: out here on anybody out there.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: I was like, Yeah, with this motherfucker, come.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 6: At me, you know.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 4: And so he's like, anybody in the institutions want to
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 4: debate me on fucking Cabbala, I'll do it. And I
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 4: think that's actually really healthy. And I think it was
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 4: more more debates in these spheres.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 6: I think it the better.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I was like, this motherfucker is making I'll tell
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 7: you that I took a fence for like two seconds.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 7: Probably it was who the he is?
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 7: I was like, I like Cabala too, you don't, motherfucker
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 7: Like I hate certain parts of it. And but then again,
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 7: I don't know. Maybe there's certain ship that I could
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 7: say that he wouldn't know. But I was like, unfortunately,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 7: there's certain areas of the Kabbala.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: That he probably would leave me like, uh, okay, Like.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 7: I say, it's so unfortunately, I don't even know if
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 7: i'd want to risk the bating.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: It was really good with.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, shout out Paul Tripp. Thanks for the five dollars.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 4: We every little penny helps on this and we truly,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 4: I truly love that. Thank you, Pale, and we're gonna.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 6: Let's answer this. Okay, So here's the question. Yeah, here's
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 6: the question, Nick.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 4: What do you two think of the goal of myth
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: the creation that overthrows its make or the machines overthrowing
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 4: humans and Neil overthrowing the architect.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 6: What do you think, Nick?
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 7: I've often wondered if like the golumn is kind of
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 7: like it's an iffy one. I have wondered if it
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 7: kind of like represents like the coming back from the
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 7: abyss and like kind of like returning back to the clay,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 7: back to back to the world.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know, something along those lines.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm even wondering, Like you know, unfortunately, I don't
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 7: know if there's like a specific recipe before all. I know,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 7: there could be certain minerals and shit, and that they
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 7: could even like go with like grounding what's in the
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 7: human body. I don't know, but that's ideas that I've
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 7: had kind of like that or like kind of like
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 7: almost like a Frankenstein type of idea. Yeah, it's definitely
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 7: which again supplied by electricity lightning, right. You know, it's
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 7: really interesting if people go watch the new one they
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 7: came out, and I've even used this, and I do
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 7: think I was going to try to maybe show a
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 7: case for it. I know it's a little bit of
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 7: a stretch, but if you look at the lymphatic system.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 7: They mentioned that so many fucking times in Frankenstein about
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 7: how that was the key thing. Yeah, and if you
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 7: take that and I think a little bit of the
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 7: parts of your nervous system, and if you were to
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 7: layer that over, like if you were to take that
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 7: and layer it over like a person, instead of making
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 7: it leaves and making it look like a nervous system,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 7: you will look a little bit like the green Man.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, because the lymphatic system actually goes up your
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 7: face and everything too.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, I know that's.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 4: I mean that moves all the fluids and the fats
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 4: and the drainage system. It is what moves our toxins
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 4: out of our body. It's a widely known misnown.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 6: I like people don't know about the bodies physiological but just.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 7: Like real real quick before I just don't want to
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 7: want to stress this. If you were to go look
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 7: at people in the Renaissance times, go look at books
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 7: in this fifteen sixteen, seventeen hundreds motherfuckers, we're drawing the
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 7: inside of brains, eyes, the nervous system.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: Blood. Yeah, Robert Flood coming up with like stuff with
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: the blood like.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 7: Is you know the polymaths occult this alchemists back in
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 7: the day seem to think that shit was important.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 6: Yep, they did.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 4: No, they did, and they did because of how important
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 4: it has been throughout the ages that it's if we
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 4: could tap into the body like the body mind system,
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: and you can do that, and that's why I think
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 4: the Daoist and that's why I like my martial arts
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 4: so much. In the gung fu system for myself is
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 4: one of the reasons is because of your tapping into
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 4: by doing taichi and chi gung into the layers from
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 4: the skin to the muscle, blood, fascia to your bones
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 4: and tendons, then to the collagen and you're figuring out
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 4: how to move the fluids through the body by and
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 4: then from doing that you tap into the electromagnetic biosphere
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: of the body and you can control it. That that
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: makes you again to what I always like reference of Doune.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 4: That makes you fucking a Benny Jesuit. That makes you
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 4: your own sorcerer and magician who then has control over
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 4: if if you have control of the elements of your body,
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 4: just think what you can do with the world, you
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, It's like that, that sympathetic system.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 4: And and Paul, so I'm gonna I'm gonna answer this
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 4: on my on my way the what do you think?
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 4: What do you two think of the golam myth? So
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: interesting enough because everybody who's out there the initial gold
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 4: myth is a is a Jewish mythology of the golam,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 4: which is created from mud and clay.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 6: You're using spells, certain kinds of clay and.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 4: As well as it's a part of their flow folklore,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 4: and it's they're they're created to protect and serve this.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 4: I think this was most famously known in the sixteenth
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 4: century Prague area by a rabbi. Rabbi called low and
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: so you're doing cobbilistic rituals using Hebrew letters usually that's
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 4: which is truth to symbolize power, artificial life.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 6: And the dangers of creation.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 4: And so you're doing exactly what we're talking about in
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 4: the matrix actually by using certain letters which cliff on
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 4: to the tree, using certain rituals.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 6: Interesting enough, you know.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: You're when we're doing our ceremonial magic, you're using a
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 4: lot of divine Hebrew names to invoke, so you can
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: call upon protectors like your angels or your archangels, and
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 4: the divine names through you. I think this Gola magic
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 4: is low magic. So I went touch it with a
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 4: fucking one hundred foot poll. That's not my style. I
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 4: don't really like low magic.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 6: It's not you know.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 4: I get its place, and I get why people do it.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 4: But I'm not looking to create homunguluses or golams in
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 4: my life because I'm trying, you know, I'm.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: Just thinking of the kind of the same thing, yeah together.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah and so and then the so.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 4: But I do like this idea that he's asking in
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 4: his question about the yeah, great question, the creation that
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 4: overthrows its maker, just like the machines overthrowing humans and
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 4: Neo overthrowing the architect. That's fantastic, And so what what
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 4: does that remind you of? That reminds me of Lucifer
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: and John Milton's Paradise Lost. That reminds me of Prometheus
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 4: overthrowing Zeus and the rest of those gods as he's
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 4: giving fire to the humans.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 7: Prometheus is creation, Neo defeating merri vingiin yeah, defeating yeah,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 7: because it's like that guy has been so worried about
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 7: creating and manipulating this world that like basically eventually someone
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 7: like here rose up until came out yep.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 4: And then interesting enough, what we were talking about before
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 4: is that the Architect can and the Oracle can be
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 4: seen as Chokma and Bena, and so of my understanding
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 4: and how I see the tree is that everything below
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 4: the Abyss is all contradiction and all very human like things.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 4: But when you go above the abyss, you don't understand
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 4: that you were actually being manipulated by that supernol by
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 4: the masculine and the feminine unification of Kether, And so
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 4: we don't see that we're being manipulated by the Architect
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 4: and the Oracle so we think that we're rising up
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 4: against the architect by the oracle helping us along the path.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 4: But it seems to me that the oracle is just
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 4: another mechanism of the machine, because in the end, the
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 4: AI machine knew that the humans and the machines had
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 4: to co exist, And then that could be seen as
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 4: some fucking transhumanist agenda underneath the matrix that maybe I
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 4: didn't get to until just right now. And it's fascinating
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: because the idea is that if all of the universe
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 4: is but one permeation of itself across time, then wouldn't
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 4: the machines just be another permeation of a creation of
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 4: humans that then got out of our control, that then
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 4: was created without the aspects of the feminine Because all
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 4: these fucking poofter scientists out there don't have They have
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 4: daddy and mommy issues, and they're not alchemists in and
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 4: of themselves who have been able to calm their lower desires.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 4: And so it's like, if we can as a as
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 4: a as humanity see that we can't go backwards, but
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 4: we must move forward, then we must understand our own
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 4: divine spark within. So then as we are trying to
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 4: take back that which has been taken from us, which
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: is that we are a civilization with amnesia, as Graham
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 4: Hancock states, and that we have that divine spark in
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 4: that our history is way stranger and much more grand.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 6: Than we can ever imagine.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 4: That then, using these people that you're bringing on on
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 4: your channel, and that I'm trying to bring on a
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 4: mind like a doctor Heather Lynn, trying to tell us
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 4: that there's a lot more going on in this fucking
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 4: world than we can ever imagine, then then we can
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 4: really understand that that that mythos of the Creation taking
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 4: over the Creator is a proverbial mythos of that archetype
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 4: of the universe, just trying to understand itself.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what do you think of that? Fucking right? Jin
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 6: Yo Yo yo, Jin. We've been dropping your name all
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 6: fucking time.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 4: We've been We've been making sure everybody knows about the
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 4: Great Gin and Ninja of Threshold Saints. So just know
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 4: everyone should go over. Jin is having his Threshold Conversation
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 4: going on Friday night. He's been putting out all kinds
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 4: of amazing things out there, and so just go over
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 4: to Threshold Saints on substack on. Yeah, the Gray Lodge.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 4: He's on Spotify. He's got the best radio show there is. Yeah,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 4: and so that's great.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: Hearing great reviews about the ship and.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: Being Yeah, when Jin and I get into a room,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: all chaos, Yeah, you should have it back we right now.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 6: That's Monday nights.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 4: Jin was on my first five four or five shows
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 4: that we did, Kaiva was on last week. Jin's gonna
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 4: come on every blue moon, but Mona, my Monday night
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 4: live streams are gonna be an amalgamation of me and
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 4: Kaiva because she's got a lot to say. Woman's got
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 4: a lot to say, and it's fucking brilliant. So everyone
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 4: should check out the last show I just did with her,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 4: where we're kind of calling out all the crazy individuals
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 4: out in this world and just realize that that we
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 4: can't trust anybody out there, and that the only person
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 4: you can trust is yourself and the great people you
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 4: put yourself around. Nick, can you tell everybody where to
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 4: find you?
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: Hell?
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 7: The occult rejects on bitchot Rumble. Even though I wouldn't
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 7: really suggest to go on Bitch You and Rumble too
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 7: much because I haven't really updated them YouTube.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: It's got a lot of videos.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 7: The audio two is on Spotify, you know, Apple, major
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 7: podcast hosts. I do want to say though, for people
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 7: that are listening, if you don't mind the audio, there
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 7: probably will actually be more self available an audio because
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 7: just doing images on certain things it's just two time consuming.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 7: I could put out a lot more audio instead of
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 7: audio and video or that maybe stuff dropped a little
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 7: bit earlier. So you know, suggest if you don't mind audio,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 7: there is a lot more of offer than what is
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 7: out there.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: Video was so go check go check out the audio.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 7: And we have a cult research institute dot org which
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 7: does have a bunch of stuff on there to read,
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 7: and tons of stuff I still need to add, which
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 7: is horrible. I really need to do that, but oh god,
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 7: I'd have so much shit to ad to be unreal.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 7: But uh yeah, there's a lot of stuff on there
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 7: if you don't mind reading. And there's like a lot
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 7: of shit Like I was even talking about alchemists and
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 7: people from like the Renaissance time, Islamic alchemists, So there's
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 7: people that are like substantially old, and it's like if
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 7: you go and look back at what they were doing,
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 7: and they were all like polymants, you got to. You
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 7: gotta be like, yo, we're missing tons of shit with
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 7: this stuff. We're leaving all out. We're very hyper fixated
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 7: on some small little parts and that's it.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's suck, true. Yeah, the Inquisition took a lot
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  Speaker 6: of things from.
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  Speaker 2: Us, definitely, But yeah, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 6: Man.
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  Speaker 2: I had a blast. I really that was a lot
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  Speaker 2: of fun.
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  Speaker 6: Man.
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  Speaker 2: I was able to like nerd out all my ship
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: and you totally entertained it. So thank you.
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  Speaker 6: Damn right. I'll entertain it all. I love all that shit,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 6: and you'll know when I don't entertain it. Oh yeah,
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 6: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I think the funny thing is is that, like I've
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 7: been told before the same thing, but I've even noticed
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  Speaker 7: with you. I was like, I think, like when somebody
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 7: says something that it rings up bullshit meter, you're gonna
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 7: see it on our face somehow, regardless, regardless we don't
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  Speaker 7: say anything on the show, because I've had people tell
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  Speaker 7: me like I could tell like when you're just like
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  Speaker 7: oh fuck really huh Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's important. It's authentic.
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  Speaker 2: Well, especially if the ship shocks me. Sometimes I'm like whoa, all.
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  Speaker 6: Right, huh, I've got a big smile in my eyes.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 6: Sometimes I've looked.
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  Speaker 2: At you when I'm even like I ain't buying this bullshit,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I was like, he isn't he of
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: the nice.
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  Speaker 4: Good We're gonna do more of this, just so everybody knows.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: Nick is going to be a regular on Magas in
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 4: the Media live streams. I'm trying to with the crazy
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 4: things that I'm doing in this life. I got a
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 4: lot going on. Magas in the media is a major
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: part of it. I teach martial arts during the day.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 4: I do other things for that scrill. Gotta get it,
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: gotta get it good. I just want everybody to know
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 4: I got a bunch of great interviews coming out here
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 4: in a few hours. I'm going to be interviewing the
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 4: great Lawn, Milo Duquette. I'm very lucky to have him
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 4: on and so that'll be coming out early next week.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 4: I interviewed Daniel Lane. Danielle Lane, she's the professor of
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 4: philosophy from Gonzaga. Nick just had her on The Rejects
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 4: and that was a fantastic conversation. That woman has got
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 4: spitting vinegar.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she got pressed, actually very impressed.
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  Speaker 4: She's super smart and she's got a lot to say
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 4: and as long as you just let her go and
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 4: just like she'll just fucking chake it and everything and
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 4: she brings her seats and.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 6: That's the passion that I love.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 4: And that's why I like talking to philosophy, like the
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 4: kind of philosophers that I myself am as well, because
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 4: they want to be out here and I think the
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 4: occult esoteric community needs them to be out here. And
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 4: so that's something thing that I'm trying to do. And
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 4: I'm going to tap into that whole Palinode productions that
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 4: she has and try to get all of those professors
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 4: on here, and then the good ones will bring over
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 4: to the ocult redress as well. Awesome, and so yeah,
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna got that coming on. I'm gonna be interviewing
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 4: this Colin Concrete. He just came out with his book
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 4: Universalism and I did buy that and he's a good dude,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 4: So I'm excited that I'm going to try to get
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 4: that out soon. And then Scarlett Imprints is coming back on,
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 4: so I'm going to interview Peter Gray and Alquista Kiss
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 4: to Mech.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 6: On their own.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna give them each their own show because
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 4: they both have something to talk about.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 7: Oh that's a great I've been meaning to reach out
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 7: to them too and get them back one of them.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 4: That they had going on that that I'm actually reading
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 4: Lucifer Princeps right now and it is phenomenal. Peter Gray
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 4: is an amazing writer. Oh yeah, David Beth, I'm going
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 4: to tell him about you as well.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: Nick.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 4: David Beth wrote The Black Pilgrimage. He is the co
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 4: owner of Theone Press. The Yeah, this book is probably
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 4: one of my new favorite books of all time. So
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 4: everyone should go out and take a look at that.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 4: It's called The Black Pilgrimage in it, and I'm very impressed.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 4: And so I get to interview him on a Monday,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 4: and so I got a lot of interviews coming. I
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: got a lot of work ahead of me. I'm going
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 4: to be trying to also just I want to tap
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 4: into the geopolitical spears from the occulted mythological perspective. So
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 4: I want to do more things about what's going on
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 4: in the world, because we're getting alien disclosure, you know
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 4: what I mean, We're getting at more Epstein, We're getting
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 4: more nonsense, and we're getting Pallenteer. It's the world is
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 4: collapsing at the seams and it's fucking beautiful and I'm
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 4: here for it.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 7: I just try to get all this show. But I
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 7: was like, I don't know if they will because I've
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 7: trolled them. Oh, I told you about it, Peter Lavenda.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 6: Oh, Peter Lavenda, exactly, you should.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to get them on. I followed him
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 7: on Instagram. He didn't follow me back, unfortunately, but I'm
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 7: going to try to get in touch with him to
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 7: see if he did let me follow him because I
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 7: think he does have a private account. He can't hate
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 7: me too much. But yeah, I actually do want to
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 7: try to get him on.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He's yeah, very interesting, dude.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 4: Oh he's so interesting. That man's been through so much.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 4: So I yeah, the Wi Files guy had him on
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 4: there and that isn't it's a four hour long interview
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 4: that Kayla just and I just listened to and it
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 4: was fucking amazing. There's it's just the world's just so
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 4: crazy and and Paul, You're right, a lot of it
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 4: has been particularly programmed into us, and so we do
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 4: have to realize that it is like what is going
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 4: on in the world isn't new.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 6: It's not.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 4: It's not anything that we should think of as like,
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 4: oh my god, I can't believe this. It actually should
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 4: be like what's going to happen next? And how are
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 4: they going to try to control us through this? Next
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 4: level of what it's going to be is if it's
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 4: not Project Bluebeam, right, it's going to be it's going
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 4: to be some kind of alien The X Files did it.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 4: It's all over X right now that in X the
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 4: last season of X Files, they had the Haunt of
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 4: virus start to be another COVID like disease out there
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 4: in the world, and it led to it being produced
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 4: by by aliens. And so the alien disclosure and the
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 4: hauntavirus stuff, all this is just a slow drip to
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 4: put you into a small, fifteen minute city because twenty
• 1:55:35
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• 1:55:40
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  Speaker 8: Close your words, look into the doorness, find the blazing storm,
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