Latest / How To Protect The Ocean / 300 People, 50 Tribes, One Meeting: How California Built Its Marine Protected Areas
Transcript
- 0:00In 1999, California passed a law ordering the state to fix its patchwork
- 0:05of ocean parks. Nobody did anything with it for two years.
- 0:09When they finally tried, the process took a decade,
- 0:12cost more than $35 million, and at one point 300 people from
- 0:1750 tribal nations walked into a public meeting to protest it.
- 0:21Here's what actually happened between that law and the map you see today.
- 0:27That's on this episode of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 0:29I'm your host, Andrew Lewin. I'm a marine biologist,
- 0:32a science communicator, and the oceans communications manager for Pisces Oceans,
- 0:37a consulting firm that works with ocean project leaders to make sure their projects
- 0:42succeed to have a positive impact on the ocean.
- 0:45Today we're going to be talking about the history of.
- 0:47Of the California Networks of Marine Protected Area System.
- 0:52Because yesterday you probably heard the I did with Anupa Ahsokan,
- 0:57who talked about the adaptive management process that is ongoing right now,
- 1:01that's not turning out to what it should have been.
- 1:03And we talked a lot about that in yesterday's episode.
- 1:06So check that out after this one.
- 1:08But we're also gonna be talking about it later on in the week.
- 1:11because this week is all about this California Marine Protected Area Network
- 1:15as well as just marine protected areas in general.
- 1:18So check that out.
- 1:20So I think what's interesting is when we talk about a marine protected area
- 1:23or network of marine protected area,
- 1:25I think a lot of people just assume like ocean protection rules are there just like
- 1:30it's purely a science decision or it's purely a political one and and it's
- 1:35all just imposed on them. And sometimes that's the case.
- 1:37Sometimes marine protected areas,
- 1:39they're not done with good intentions or they're taken out with bad intentions.
- 1:43And there are a lot of problems with the way marine protected areas are set up,
- 1:47and there are some that are doing
- 1:48Really great and have been, really focusing in on including everybody
- 1:54and using science to make sure that the marine protected area is going
- 1:58to be effective for future generations.
- 2:00And that is a good way of doing things.
- 2:02But the process is never perfect.
- 2:04And we're gonna talk about this process to establish the California Network
- 2:09of Marine Protected Areas because it's something that we need to talk about
- 2:14so you understand what goes in.
- 2:16To a process to designate a marine protected area or a network
- 2:20of those protected areas, but also what could go wrong and what could
- 2:23you adapt to in the future to make better?
- 2:26And I think this is like a great ex this story,
- 2:28it is a great example of that.
- 2:30So in 1999, the Marine Life Protection Act sat unused for two years in California.
- 2:36and after two failed implementation attempts to put it in in 2001 and 2002.
- 2:42there was ~ a real worry about what's gonna happen.
- 2:45Like it wasn't a dead law, it was still active,
- 2:47it was just underfunded
- 2:50Until in August 2004, the state entered a public-private partnership with
- 2:55a nonprofit funder, the Resources Legacy Foundation,
- 2:58it created the MLPA initiative to run the process region by region along the coast.
- 3:04Now, what's interesting is this came before a federal
- 3:10law that was established about marine spatial
- 3:13Is when President Obama was in power and he had the national ocean policy
- 3:18and its coastal marine spatial planning framework that put in didn't begin until
- 3:22July 2010 via executive order.
- 3:25Now at that point, the California's MLPA process was already deep into
- 3:30its third and fourth regional phases,
- 3:32and the Central Coast region had been designated back in 2007.
- 3:36So this process was continuing after the 2004.
- 3:40inclusion of resources legacy foundation.
- 3:43And so we started to see all these,
- 3:45you know, these and these networks start to get added to the protection area system,
- 3:50which is really cool.
- 3:51So in each of the four regions that were carved out of this process,
- 3:55the actual design process worked like this:
- 3:57an appointed regional stakeholder group made up of local fishermen,
- 4:01conservationists, and other users drafted MPA proposals.
- 4:05A science advisory team reviewed each proposal against ecological design principles.
- 4:11So habitat representation, habitat replication,
- 4:14MPA size, and spacing between protected areas,
- 4:18plus a level of protection.
- 4:21Rating scale for different allowed uses.
- 4:23The Department of Fish and Game and the MLPA initiative staff are also weighed in.
- 4:28So a policy-level Blue Ribbon Task Force reviewed the whole package
- 4:32and forwarded a recommendation to the state's Fish and Game Commission,
- 4:36the only body with legal authority to actually adopt the MPA.
- 4:40All of this happened in thousands of hours of public meetings,
- 4:44most of them recorded and archived over roughly a decade.
- 4:49there was a huge conflict in this process.
- 4:53And the root cause of that conflict was the process gave the public
- 4:57a genuine seat at the table, but it did not accurately address tribal sovereignty
- 5:03and traditional gathering rights from the start.
- 5:06So on California's North Coast in particular,
- 5:09there were a bunch of tribal meetings.
- 5:11That argue that the MLPA framework only recognized commercial
- 5:15and recreational fishing categories,
- 5:17not traditional subsistence and cultural gathering.
- 5:20So that tension came to a head in July 2011 when more than 300 people,
- 5:25including members of 50 tribal nations,
- 5:28took over a blue ribbon task force meeting in Fort Bragg,
- 5:31Described by the participants at the time as the largest North Coast protest since
- 5:361990. The task force ultimately rejected language that would have terminated tribal
- 5:42gathering rights, and the North Coast region's final unified proposal reached
- 5:48by fishing, tribal, and environmental representatives together,
- 5:51was adopted in 2012, with a formal tribal gathering exception.
- 5:56But the problem was the tribal leaders themselves noted that they accepted
- 6:00it with conditions rather than a full endorsement.
- 6:05So this is the what happens in a lot of these processes because it was
- 6:08so large and it it it looked at the entire state that it had groups in
- 6:14it in these four regions, but obviously in this case it didn't include
- 6:18the tribal groups, unfortunately get left out in a lot of these situations.
- 6:23So there was a lot of pushback to what happened throughout this process,
- 6:27eventually getting an agreement in place,
- 6:30but it wasn't a full endorsement,
- 6:31as I just mentioned.
- 6:32Because a lot of the tribal leaders are like,
- 6:34well, look, we took it with conditions,
- 6:35but it's not perfect, but we'd like to improve on it.
- 6:38And unfortunately, in a lot of these situations,
- 6:40whether you're a fisher, whether you're a recreational diver,
- 6:43or you're some sort of stakeholder or rights holder like the tribal communities,
- 6:47a lot of the times not everybody's happy with the results.
- 6:51And for good reason, they may not have been fully represented at the actual time
- 6:56at the table and with a lot of the concerns that they've had.
- 6:59But during that time,
- 7:01There are times where you have all of this moving forward through adaptive
- 7:06management. as the Marine Protected Area Network is put in place,
- 7:09as it improved throughout this process,
- 7:11and that they had a formal setup for these networks of marine protected areas,
- 7:17which is, I think it was 124 protected areas within the network.
- 7:22Then there comes time of actually putting it in place.
- 7:25monitoring it, evaluating it, and then redesigning it based
- 7:29on recommendations from the science and the public input.
- 7:33And that's where we're kind of left at this point.
- 7:36There was another 10 years of waiting,
- 7:38and recently an adaptive management process kicked off,
- 7:41which is what we talked to ANUPA about,
- 7:43which hasn't really gone in a great way.
- 7:45And we talked a little bit about that because they didn't talk about
- 7:48the science in this and they only had petitions from the public.
- 7:52But we're gonna talk about it later on this week in episodes where we're gonna say,
- 7:56hey, this is really important to talk about when you include the science,
- 7:59because it gives people the the official assessment of how these marine protected
- 8:03area networks are doing. And this is a big part of managing a marine protected area
- 8:09network. Because if you don't manage it,
- 8:11if you don't reassess it and reassess it and reassess and change
- 8:15and revise and adapt, then there's really no point in putting these protected areas
- 8:19in place. It takes money.
- 8:21It takes time, it takes effort,
- 8:22and it takes the will of the people to have the patience and
- 8:26the understanding to meet together and and work on how they can improve
- 8:31the system for everyone, not just one party.
- 8:33So that's the episode for today.
- 8:35I want to kind of give you that explanation of what happened during the setup
- 8:39of the California Marine Protected Area System.
- 8:41Obviously, based on yesterday's episode with ANUPA,
- 8:44Things haven't really changed in the way.
- 8:47where people are being heard for their concerns.
- 8:50And it's actually getting more aggressive in the way that it's doing
- 8:53it because some groups are speaking over others and could be intimidating others
- 8:58in that process. So obviously there's a long way to go in this process.
- 9:02The government needs to step up to make sure that everybody has their
- 9:05say and feels safe to have their say.
- 9:07But this was an episode about the history of the network of marine protected areas.
- 9:11We're gonna get into it all the rest of this week with different shows.
- 9:14That we have coming up. Tomorrow's episode is going to be on
- 9:18the actual adaptive management and ~ California's Ocean Safety Net actually working.
- 9:24We're gonna really talk about the evaluation and that assessment.
- 9:26don't forget to tune in tomorrow.
- 9:28Hit that follow button so you make sure you follow this podcast
- 9:32and don't miss tomorrow's episode.
- 9:33I want to thank you so much for joining me on today's episode of the
- 9:36How to Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 9:38Have a great day. We'll talk to you next time and happy conservation.