Latest / Black Girl Interrupted Podcast / Nolan Wells....Another Black Boy Murdered
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- 0:32Speaker 1: Uh uh oh, what's up? What's up? What's up? Y'all
- 0:35is your favorite girl? But the five before bringing you
- 0:38another episode of Black Girl interrupted, Hey, what's good? I
- 0:45missed y'all. Let me first start off by saying happy Tuesday.
- 0:49I hope everyone is having an amazing week thus far.
- 0:53I also want to say thank y'all for being so
- 0:56patient with me. A lot of things have happened in
- 0:59the last few weeks since my last episode, but I
- 1:04am here. Most of y'all know that my dear baby,
- 1:09Karma passed away. Do we know what happened?
- 1:14Speaker 2: No?
- 1:16Speaker 1: All I know is that my baby is no longer here.
- 1:19Uh mmm, and it's it's it's been a struggle. Even
- 1:24though we only had her for just a few months,
- 1:27she really made a very, very, very big impact on
- 1:31our lives. And I miss my baby. So y'all keep
- 1:36raying for me. Maybe next year I'll be ready to
- 1:39get another Doug. Maybe we'll see. Oh God, I don't
- 1:47even know how I want to start this show tonight.
- 1:50But of course y'all know I always do my mental
- 1:52health check ins every every every episode because I need
- 1:56to know how you're feeling. I want mental health to
- 1:59not just be limited to two or three months out
- 2:01of the year, but I want it to be an
- 2:03everyday conversation, so it's imperative that I do these check
- 2:07ins at the start of every show before we jump
- 2:11into tonight's conversation. Tonight's conversation is very near and dear,
- 2:18not only to me, but everyone in the world. Tonight,
- 2:24we're gonna be touching on the death of Nolan Wells,
- 2:33eighteen year old young man from Ocean Springs, Mississippi, who
- 2:38went missing fourth of July weekend, and we still don't
- 2:42know what happened. So before we get started, let's do
- 2:47our mental health check in again. I hope everyone is
- 2:50having an amazing week thus far. I have missed y'all.
- 2:54I love y'all so dearly. I appreciate y'all still loving
- 2:58on your girls, Still support your girl, and stay tuned
- 3:03for the end because I do have some of the
- 3:06most amazing news that I would love to share with
- 3:09you guys. Hint why I was late, uh starting to
- 3:13live tonight. But ooh, your girl is excited. I'm so,
- 3:19so so excited. I can't wait. I can't wait. I
- 3:22don't know if I should tell y'all now, or should
- 3:24I wait until after the show? You know what, Let's
- 3:26wait until the end of the show to reveal the
- 3:29news because I think it'll bring a little more joy
- 3:34to the show. So before we get started, here we go,
- 3:37let's do our mental health check in and again dropping
- 3:40the comments. Let me know how you're feeling, let me
- 3:42know what's going on, let me know what I can
- 3:44do to help you on your journey. Because I am
- 3:49making commitments to show up for my people. I'm being committed,
- 3:57y'all bear with me tonight. I am in a full
- 4:00fibril flare tonight. But the show must go on. I
- 4:04have to push through because again, I've made commitments to
- 4:07show up, not just for me, but for you. So
- 4:10here we go, and then we'll get into tonight's show.
- 4:21Speaker 3: If the lion is the king of the jungle, how
- 4:25can he be the king of the jungle If he's
- 4:28not the biggest.
- 4:30Speaker 4: The elephant is probably one of the biggest.
- 4:33Speaker 3: He can't be the fastest because that's a cheatah, he.
- 4:37Speaker 5: Can't be the smartest, So he's not the biggest.
- 4:41Speaker 6: The fastest, or the smartest.
- 4:44Speaker 4: So how does the lion.
- 4:47Speaker 6: Become the king of the jungle.
- 4:50Speaker 4: Its mentality.
- 4:53Speaker 3: That's the only difference of a lion and the elephant.
- 4:57When a lion walks up and sees an elephant, he
- 5:00has lunch. Ever, some things run, and it's all mentality,
- 5:08because when a male lion walks up, he may be
- 5:10outnumbered by a pack of hyenas.
- 5:13Speaker 5: But I'm teen of my jungle because of my mentality.
- 5:18What happens when you're gazel.
- 5:20Speaker 7: And you're not being pushed, you're not being proud of,
- 5:23You're not giving it a reward, nobody's encouraging you.
- 5:26Speaker 3: What happens when you're a gazel and the lion's not
- 5:28chasing anymore, you stop running you But what happens when
- 5:32you're a lion. When you are a lion, it does
- 5:34not make a difference. You realize that if your family
- 5:38is going to eat that, if that pack of lions
- 5:41is to survive.
- 5:42Speaker 7: Then you gotta go hunts. A part of being a
- 5:46beast just ain't eating a gazelle. A part of being
- 5:49a beast is the hunt. It's the hunt that they're
- 5:52excited about. They like to see the gazelles run to poove.
- 5:55Speaker 3: They take off because real lions like the hunt. They
- 5:58love the process just as much as they love a prize,
- 6:01and some of y'all just want to score. You don't
- 6:03like the process, You're not in love with the process.
- 6:07Speaker 8: A true hunter's go it's not the prize. A true
- 6:10hunter's goal is to hunt. That's what they live for.
- 6:14They live to hunt. They don't just lamp to catch it.
- 6:17It's the whole process. When you are a true hunter, you.
- 6:20Speaker 3: Don't go by time, you'll go buy the gazelle. When
- 6:22you are a true hunter, you hunt until you get
- 6:25a gazelle, and you don't stop until you get one,
- 6:28and then you get another, and then you get another,
- 6:30and you get another. If you're gonna do what you
- 6:32say you're gonna do, be what you say you're gonna be,
- 6:34you're gonna have to lie.
- 6:35Speaker 6: In me out.
- 6:36Speaker 3: You are Gazel, You're gonna come up short. You a Gazel,
- 6:40You're gonna have an average experience.
- 6:41Speaker 4: You're a student that needs you.
- 6:42Speaker 3: In lion mode, you're an entrepreneur, I need you. In
- 6:45lion mode, you try to lose weight. Lion mode. You
- 6:48can't do nothing significant in Gazel mode. Nothing, nothing impressive
- 6:53happens in Gazel mode. Nothing happened in run mode, give
- 6:56up mode, quit mode, scared mode, fearful more, nothing happened,
- 7:00Everything happen in line more like I'm coming to get you. Yeah.
- 7:26Speaker 1: I needed to hear that today when I tell you
- 7:29I've been in the bed all day. I am in
- 7:31the most excruciating thing ever. But I gotta show up
- 7:35for my people. I gotta show it for my people.
- 7:39I love y'all so much. I am so appreciative of you.
- 7:44Oh yeah, I miss my Karma, I do. I miss
- 7:49my baby, y'all. I'm not gonna get emotional. I promise
- 7:52I'm not. God I miss her I do. Oh that's
- 7:57my man. Heyboo, I love you and thank you. Thank
- 8:01you for loving me, thank you for being so supportive
- 8:06of everything that I do. Hm. But, like I said,
- 8:12Happy Tuesday, y'all, Welcome back to another episode of Black Girl.
- 8:16Interrupt the podcast. It's your favorite girl, your girl, ash oh,
- 8:22and tonight. I promise I'm not gonna get emotional. But
- 8:29it touches me because I have a son, a black
- 8:33son that has friends of all shades, tones, races, and
- 8:43every day that he goes out with his friends, I
- 8:48prayed it my son makes it back to me, m
- 8:58let me get it together. Oh but y'all know, y'all
- 9:02know I'm the biggest cry baby ever. Y'all know that
- 9:06topics like this are so I'm so passionate about because
- 9:16we are tired of our black boys and our black
- 9:20men not making it home to us. No, we can't
- 9:35let me figure out how I'm gonna word this. We
- 9:38can't keep them bottled up. We have to let them
- 9:43be in the world. But one thing that I'm gonna
- 9:47do is I'm gonna always pray not only over my husband,
- 9:52but my children, because in the last six months, maybe
- 10:03twelve months, we've seen so many black boys go missing,
- 10:14only to be found the way we were not expecting
- 10:17them to be found.
- 10:19Speaker 6: M hm.
- 10:23Speaker 1: When is enough gonna be enough? When are our black
- 10:34boys gonna be able to go old?
- 10:41Speaker 3: M h m hmm.
- 10:44Speaker 1: We're gonna push through this episode tonight. We're gonna get
- 10:48through it. But I want to speak on Nolan Wells.
- 10:56I wanna talk about Nolan Xavier.
- 11:00Speaker 8: What else.
- 11:08Speaker 1: I want to speak on an eighteen year old young
- 11:12man who's no longer here with us, taken away from
- 11:23us so tragically. Have I seen all the social media
- 11:31posts I've seen the back and forth. I've seen them say, oh,
- 11:37this is not a race thing, Yeah it is. We've
- 11:48seen this with Tamla Horsford. We've seen this with Kendrick Johnson.
- 12:01We have seen this with so many other black boys
- 12:06that have left with their non melanated friends, only never
- 12:15to be seen again. As we have this discussion tonight,
- 12:23I ask that everyone remain respectful. I ask that you
- 12:35be mindful of the things that you see. I ask
- 12:45that you respect the house rules. I ask that you
- 12:54respect others' opinions and their thoughts, because everyone has thought
- 13:00and opinions surrounding this case. I'm not a legal analyst.
- 13:10I'm not a professional, nor do I proclaim to be.
- 13:17But these are my takes and my opinions regarding the
- 13:23death of Nolan Exavier Wells. Yes, I'm gonna say his
- 13:28name because Nolan was my son, Nolan was my nephew,
- 13:38Nolan was my cousin. Nolan was my brother. So again
- 13:49I ask, as we go into the discussion of Nolan Wells,
- 13:59eighteen year old young man from Ocean Springs, Mississippi, who
- 14:02disappeared for the July weekend, was it an accident or
- 14:11was it murder? Around July second or third, Nolan Wells
- 14:27departed Horn Island with a group of friends. You know what,
- 14:33Let me correct that, with a group of associates, only
- 14:44to never be seen again. All the family wants is justice.
- 14:56All we're asking for is transparency regarding this. Ah. My
- 15:16heart goes out to not only the mother, the father,
- 15:23but to everyone in the world who has the Nolan Wells,
- 15:32to families that have lost their children in the manner
- 15:37that Nolan Wells lost his life. MM. Nolan Wells had
- 15:53his whole life ahead of him. He was on his
- 15:59way to the Southwest Mississippi College I believe, on a
- 16:05football scholarship, and he was robbed of that. A weekend
- 16:15of fun turned into a weekend of tragedy. Oh Noland,
- 16:27we love you, we miss you. We're praying that justice
- 16:34will be served for you and your family. Hasis good
- 16:45to see your beautiful absolutely hashtag Nolan Wells and we
- 16:52will say his name from here on out. We will
- 16:57be in support of justice and transper parentcy for Nolan
- 17:01Wells family. They deserve that. So for those that are
- 17:09not familiar with the case, let me bring you up
- 17:14to speed on Nolan Wells.
- 17:19Speaker 9: Search continues for a teen reported missing from Horn Island.
- 17:24Eighteen year old Nolan Xavier Wells was last same Saturday
- 17:27afternoon on the northwest tip end of Horn Island and
- 17:30joining us now live as we'll post in with the
- 17:32details on this ongoing investigation.
- 17:35Speaker 1: Good morning to you, will.
- 17:38Speaker 4: Oh, Good morning, Brandy, Good morning everybody joining us at home.
- 17:41If you were with us for our first couple of
- 17:43live shots, you saw the mobile command unit here and
- 17:45now over my shoulder you can see a couple of
- 17:47rescue boats here as well, many of them saying State
- 17:50law Enforcement on the side of them, as the search
- 17:52party is getting ready to get back up and rolling
- 17:55here from the Lake Marsh Pier. Now this is out
- 17:59in Jackson County. Nolan Wells is the subject of this search,
- 18:04an eighteen year old boy from here in Ocean Springs
- 18:08who now plays college football and now he went missing
- 18:12as of last scene at Horn Island on the northwest
- 18:15tip at three pm on Independence Day. He went out
- 18:18with a couple of buddies, but has not been seen since.
- 18:21His last scene wearing no shirt with blue swim trunks
- 18:24and sunglasses on Now the United Cajuan Navy has also
- 18:27been aiding in this search. We got a chance to
- 18:30speak with them earlier. Earlier during this search, talk about
- 18:33what needs to be known to better find Nolan.
- 18:37Speaker 6: And I've heard that he got on a different boat.
- 18:39I heard he went to a different island. I heard
- 18:41did he swam out trying to catch another boat. I
- 18:43heard a lot of different things, but I don't know
- 18:44which one is true. But I need to know exactly
- 18:47what's the last thing people saw Nolan doing. It's gonna
- 18:50make my job a lot easier.
- 18:55Speaker 3: Now.
- 18:56Speaker 4: Southwest Mississippi Community College is where Nolan plays football at.
- 19:00They just recently released a statement as well. That statement saying,
- 19:04in part quote, the SMCC family is praying for the
- 19:07beloved football player Nolan Wells, his loved ones, and everyone
- 19:11involved in the search. We ask our community to join
- 19:13us in praying for Nolan's safe return. And the Jackson
- 19:17County Sheriff's Department is also asking if you have any photos, videos,
- 19:21or anything from Horn Island on Independence Day that could
- 19:24help pinpoint where Nolan could be to police, send that
- 19:27in to the department as well. Live from Jackson County,
- 19:30we'll Polson WLX News now.
- 19:37Speaker 1: So again, here we are. We have a eighteen year
- 19:39old young man, not a boy, but I'm a dinners
- 19:45from that. No, But seriously, we have an eighteen year
- 19:50old young black man who went out to hang out
- 19:55with some friends for the Fourth of July weekend again,
- 20:02only to never be heard from again. What happened? Let
- 20:16me say this, those were never friends to begin with,
- 20:25because I want to know and I get it, I
- 20:29understand certain areas. I used to live in Mississippi, in
- 20:31Biloxi for a couple of years, and let me just
- 20:36say it was not the most pleasant experience in my life.
- 20:43But that I'll save that conversation for a different day.
- 20:50But any real true friend would have been on it
- 20:58would be willing to assist a family with regards to
- 21:02what happened. We've heard conflicting stories, we've heard different timelines,
- 21:11we've seen ai photos, we've seen it all. But the
- 21:20million dollar question is what really happened. Who's gonna step
- 21:25up and say, you know what, this is what happened?
- 21:34Because an undetermined cause of death doesn't sit well with me.
- 21:43If these young men and women that Nolan was out
- 21:46with that weekend, why aren't you speaking, Why aren't you
- 21:49seeing anything. Why aren't you trying to assist in the investigation.
- 21:53Why are you not trying to bring closure to this
- 21:57young man's family. I don't understand, because see, a real
- 22:03true friend would go to not only the family, but
- 22:08to law enforcement and say this is what I saw happen.
- 22:16Oh I wish that would happen. I prayed that someone
- 22:22that was with him, or that was out there that
- 22:25saw would go to the family or contact law enforcement
- 22:29and say this is what I saw. Because again, what
- 22:36I don't understand, the only lone black man with a
- 22:42group of non melenated people was the only one that
- 22:46didn't return. And this is again not the first story
- 22:56that we've seen this happen. When is enough going to
- 23:05be enough? When are people gonna start doing the right thing?
- 23:12You have a mother and a father that are grieving
- 23:15the loss of their child. You don't think that mother
- 23:27and father deserve some type of closure so they can
- 23:30begin their journey of healing. Accountability is what we're asking for. Well,
- 23:39you know what, Let me not say, let me not
- 23:41speak for everybody, but I know for me, accountability is
- 23:44what I want for this family. Closure is what I
- 23:47want for this family. Justice is what I long for
- 23:51for this family, because again, I have a black son
- 23:54that has a lot of non mellenated friends, and I
- 23:58tell my son every day when he leaves out, be careful,
- 24:06be mindful of who you call friends. Stop going to
- 24:12everybody's house, Be mindful of who you take home. This
- 24:18is what I tell my son every day that he
- 24:24goes out. I pray that my son makes it back
- 24:26home to me period. I just had this conversation with
- 24:39my son when this case first broke news. Be mindful
- 24:46with who you take home. Because people are people are
- 24:49crazy out here. We see it happen far too many times,
- 24:59text messages being deleted, social media accounts being deleted or deactivated.
- 25:10If you don't have anything to hide, why are you
- 25:12doing all of this? That's what I want to know.
- 25:20That's what I need to understand. I don't have an
- 25:25issue with my son having non millenated friends. That's his prerogative,
- 25:29but I tell them all the time, you need to
- 25:31watch them. I may catch flak for that comment, but
- 25:37that's okay because as a black mother of three black children,
- 25:43I have to protect mine because the world is unkind
- 25:48to my children. But I don't think a lot of
- 25:55y'all are ready for that conversation. You look at Tamla Horsford,
- 26:06the young lady. We still don't know what happened to her.
- 26:09She went to the sleepover with her non melenated friends
- 26:15and wound up dead, and no one's talking. See, they'll
- 26:25protect theirs, So now it's time for us to start
- 26:28protecting ours. That's what we have to start doing. Hey
- 26:39says hey, my baby, But that's what we have to
- 26:45start doing. And we absolutely want justice for Nolan. We
- 26:52want transparency. We don't want the lies, we don't want
- 26:57the bs. We want the truth. Helped his family get
- 27:03the justice and the closure that they so rightfully deserved.
- 27:11Hey sis, hey beautiful, good to see you. But that's
- 27:15old to Nolan. So this baby can rest. This is
- 27:23what we want. We want to know if it was
- 27:26an accident, say it was an accident. If it was murder,
- 27:30let's prove that it was murder. Because again, he was
- 27:36the only black boy with non melenated people, and he
- 27:41was the only one that didn't come back home, the
- 27:47only one, the only one. Let that sink in for
- 27:53just a moment. You, as a parent, you allow your
- 27:57child to go hang out with friends and everyone comes back.
- 28:01Everyone's child comes back, but your own. You don't think
- 28:08that that's sitting well with the mother and the father
- 28:16not knowing what happened to their child. That could be
- 28:24your baby, That could be your son, that could be
- 28:30your daughter, that could be your brother, your sister, your cousin,
- 28:35your nephew. What we're doing here is we're keeping Nolan
- 28:46Well's name alive. We want to see justice from Nolan.
- 28:57I want to see his mother and father be able
- 29:01to rest a little lighter. I see the mother and
- 29:13then I see me, what if this was my baby?
- 29:23When I want someone to stay in ten toes down
- 29:25for mine? Yes, what I want someone to help to
- 29:33hold the people responsible for the loss of my child accountable. Yes,
- 29:44this is what I want for the family. I want
- 29:49this for Nolan. I want this for his family. I
- 29:52want this for his mother. I want this for his father.
- 29:55I want this for the people that really, truly, genuinely
- 29:58loved Nolan, and I want them to be able to
- 30:01sleep lighter. I want someone to be able to come
- 30:04and say, you know what, we can tell you exactly
- 30:08what happened, and we're gonna get justice. We're gonna make
- 30:14sure the people, the person or the people are responsible
- 30:18for this are punished to the maximum extent of the law.
- 30:28That's what we want, my sister says. The truth will
- 30:35definitely be revealed, and it will because see God sees everything.
- 30:40He sits high and looks low, and the truth is
- 30:43coming to light. The more we peel the layers back
- 30:46on this case, the closer we get to the truth.
- 30:48You understand, that's what happens, beautiful sister says, Amen, absolutely,
- 31:04because if this was your child, I would be up
- 31:08here doing the same thing for your baby. I don't
- 31:12have to know you to want justice for your family,
- 31:17but I have a platform that I could utilize to
- 31:20get it out to the world. You understand, So that
- 31:22way your child or your love. Let me say this,
- 31:24so that way your loved one is not forgotten. Because see,
- 31:31the first thing that happens when our children go missing
- 31:36and they're found in ways that we were not expecting
- 31:38them to go found, they love to pull up if
- 31:41they have a background. I don't care what your background is.
- 31:48I'm gonna walk with you to see justice for your
- 31:50loved one. So I see some new people have tuned
- 31:58in y'all, welcome to Black Girl Interrupted podcast. It is
- 32:02your favorite girl for the five o four Ashley bringing
- 32:05you another great episode. Tonight. We are discussing Nolan Wells.
- 32:11I'm so sorry Nolan Xavier Wells because I'm gonna say
- 32:18his name. Nolan Xavier Wells, eighteen year old black male
- 32:26from Ocean Springs, Mississippi, who disappeared fourth of July weekend
- 32:30after an outing on a boat with his friends. You
- 32:36know what, let me back up with his associates, because see,
- 32:42true friends, real friends will come and tell the truth.
- 32:46They will tell you what happened. They would be the
- 32:49first in line running to law enforcement to say, let
- 32:51me tell you what happened. We're not seeing that when
- 33:02I seen that, all I've been seeing online is you
- 33:11monkey's hate water. That's what I've been seeing. Where was
- 33:16the empathy? Where was the compassion? Because what if this
- 33:19was your child? I've seen so much as people saying, oh,
- 33:26he was drunk, he caused his own demise, Stop it
- 33:33because his rhetorica's getting real old. I've seen some of
- 33:39the most distasteful post regarding the loss of this young
- 33:46man from white and black. I've seen that instead of
- 34:03taking a time out to call us monkeys and say
- 34:08you're gonna do this that, and the third to us
- 34:10imagine if this was your child that went out with
- 34:14a group of black boys and didn't come back, which
- 34:21you still feel the same way. You remember in the
- 34:26movie of Time to Kill was Samuel L. Jackson's daughter
- 34:33was great by two white men. And at the end
- 34:39during the trial, Matthew mcconnae hay was describing to an
- 34:44all white jury what happened to this little girl? And
- 34:50then he ended by ended it by saying, what if
- 34:54she were white? Let that soak in for a minute.
- 35:06What if we had one white boy that went out
- 35:14with a group of black boys and all the black
- 35:18boys came home, but a little white boy didn't. Would
- 35:26you still have that same energy? See one thing about me,
- 35:33I've never been afraid to push the envelope. I've never
- 35:37been afraid to make you uncomfortable in conversations. But I
- 35:44want to know where that energy still be the same.
- 35:51If this were a role reversal where a little white
- 35:55boy went missing after being out with a group of
- 35:58black boys, this case would have been solved in in
- 36:03a week. I'm exaggerating the timeframe. But you get what
- 36:08I'm saying. It wouldn't have been no well this or that. No,
- 36:24It's sad that we see this so often when black
- 36:27boys and black girls, and black men and black women
- 36:30go missing, were pushed to the side. There's never a
- 36:37sense of urgency, never when one of us go missing.
- 36:53I'm gonna let y'all marinate on that for a moment. Hey, beautiful,
- 37:04I love you real big baby. I love you infinity,
- 37:08I love you absolutely. Hashtag Nolan Wells, hashtag forever eighteen.
- 37:18This was like a gut punch when I heard about this.
- 37:31I understand investigations take time, I do. I know how
- 37:37it goes, I know how it works. I'm very aware
- 37:39and I understand. But my question still remains, when we
- 37:47go missing, there's never a sense of urgency. It's always, oh,
- 37:54there's no there's oh we suspect no foul play. It
- 37:57was a suicide. It was this. It was always that
- 38:01with us. But when you have Jack that goes missing,
- 38:10it's a documentary on YouTube tube, be everything. It's like
- 38:18the whole world stops. But when you have a de
- 38:22Quine or Lakisha that goes missing, oh, that was a suicide,
- 38:31that was this, that was that, And you can't sit
- 38:37up here and tell me I'm wrong. Do you know
- 38:42how many people you know, let me rephrase that. Do
- 38:46you know how many young black men and black women
- 38:49and black boys and black girls that I've sat on
- 38:51my platform and I've advocated for no sense of urgency.
- 39:01You have Kendrick Johnson's family, the young man from Georgia
- 39:06who was found rolled up in a gym mat, whose
- 39:08family is still fighting to get justice and find out
- 39:12what happened to their baby. Here we are still talking
- 39:25about john be name Ramsey, and y'all are still trying
- 39:29to figure out who want to live to her? Y'all
- 39:37want not, y'all, But the people are still talking about
- 39:43Lacy Peterson and we know what happened to her, Gabby Purtito,
- 39:54Natalie Holloween. But when it's one of us, there's never
- 40:01a sense of urgency. We have to get out and
- 40:03do the legwork. I was reading a story yesterday, I
- 40:08was talking to my sister by a young man in
- 40:12Alabama that went missing, left with a friend, only to
- 40:19be found shot, burned and mutilated. Let that sink in
- 40:29for a moment. The family found their child. The father
- 40:39found their child in the woods, and he was nineteen.
- 40:52I'm gonna let y'all sit on that for a moment.
- 40:56I'm gonna let that soak in for just a moment.
- 41:03He was n IRI's friend. That's my niece, and we
- 41:09will forever tell. I'm telling you, yell Nolan Wells, because again,
- 41:21we have to get out and do the legwork. What
- 41:24are we paying law enforcement for if you're just gonna
- 41:29sit around. I see cases like this every day. There
- 41:38are some days that I have to take a break
- 41:39from social media because stories like this they upset me.
- 41:47They trigger me because I want to know why, I
- 41:59want to know what we are not treated in the
- 42:03same manner one of our loved ones goes missing. I'm
- 42:09ecstatic that this Nolan Wells case has opened the door
- 42:17for other stories to be told. I'm very sad that
- 42:23this young man had to lose his life for other
- 42:26stories to be brought to the forefront. I'm devastated because
- 42:36Nolan Xavier well should still here, still be here with us,
- 42:39He should still this young man should be getting ready
- 42:42and ramped up a football season. But all were left
- 42:51with his memories in the what ifs What if Nolan
- 43:00would have never got on that boat. What if That's
- 43:13what I want to know. What if we know Mississippi
- 43:21to be racist? Hell we found I did the story
- 43:28on the two hundred and fifteen plus graves that were
- 43:31buried behind a jailhouse, so I'm not new to this.
- 43:42I don't get up here and advocate for these families,
- 43:45for cloud for numbers, for cliques and views. I do
- 43:48it because, you know what, Nolan Wells could be my son,
- 43:52Trayvon Martin could have been my son, Cyrus Carmac Belton
- 43:59cut I been my son. I get up here and
- 44:03I advocate because if I don't do it, who will
- 44:10I have the platform to do it. I do this
- 44:14because I'm passionate about this. I do this because I
- 44:17love doing this. I enjoy doing this because I would
- 44:22want someone to come up and do this for me
- 44:25if this was one of my children. This is why
- 44:30I do this. This is why I get on Black
- 44:32Girl Interrupted podcast and I share and have these conversations.
- 44:43I don't have a problem with having the dialogue. I
- 44:46don't have a problem with having a tangible conversation, a
- 44:50conducive conversation. I don't have a problem. I do this
- 45:01again because I will want someone to do this for me.
- 45:04If it was my child that went missing, I would
- 45:12want someone to stand in solidarity with me and help
- 45:15me fight to get justice. I would want someone to
- 45:20stand and walk with me to try to get the
- 45:22truth brought to the light, to get the people or
- 45:25the person or the people that are responsible held accountable.
- 45:32That's why I do this. I don't care about anything else.
- 45:41I do this because I love this. I do this
- 45:46because I'm passionate about this, and I'm gonna say it again.
- 45:51I do this because some of y'all are afraid to
- 45:54have these conversations because you don't want to offend anybody.
- 46:07Nolan Wells, you are loved, you are missed absolutely. Max
- 46:18Lily says he had his whole life ahead him. He did,
- 46:22and he was robbed and now we're left, Max, you
- 46:28know with the what ifs. What if he never would
- 46:34have got on that boat, what if he would have
- 46:37stayed home that weekend? Will we ever get the truth?
- 46:45Will the personal people responsible this ever be held accountable?
- 46:48Or will it just be ruled as a suicide or
- 46:54an unfortunate accident or drowning Because I've seen that too.
- 47:04I've seen that too. I've seen that. So I do
- 47:14have some updates regarding the official state the autopsies of
- 47:21the state's official autopsy has been completed, but there will
- 47:27they will not reveal what it says. But then there's
- 47:35also been some breaking news regarding the timeline and things
- 47:41not adding up the times from this to that. So
- 47:48they're a little long. I'm not going to play them
- 47:50in their full entirety, but just kind of get to
- 47:53the gist of it because I really want to get
- 47:55back into this conversation. So here we are with the
- 47:58state's official autopsy than has been completed. Here's an update
- 48:01regarding day, and then I want to discuss the autopsy.
- 48:05Here we go.
- 48:08Speaker 10: We do want to continue on with some of our
- 48:10top stories that we're following from this week, taking you
- 48:13out to this. We have an update in a case
- 48:15that is really capturing attention all across the country. We
- 48:19do know that as of this weekend, the official autopsy
- 48:22in the death of Nolan Wells has been completed, according
- 48:25to officials who are familiar with that investigation. Results from
- 48:29the State Medical Examiner's Office have not yet been made public,
- 48:33but are expected to be sent to a grand jury.
- 48:35This all has to do with the early July death
- 48:38of Nolan Wells, an eighteen year old who was on
- 48:41a boat on Horn Island before he effectively went missing.
- 48:45Days later, his body surfacing, and still so many questions
- 48:48as we are continuing on in the days and weeks
- 48:51to follow us death, and to talk a little bit
- 48:53more about what we're watching here, I'd like to bring
- 48:55in a Dante Poyter, civil rights attorney. A Dante, thanks
- 48:58so much for being with us here on Life.
- 49:00Speaker 1: Now from Fox.
- 49:01Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
- 49:03Speaker 10: Absolutely and once again I'm getting a lot of text
- 49:05emails and even people reaching out to me on social
- 49:08media asking questions about this case. And so since we
- 49:12have the time to speak with you right now, I
- 49:14want to start with some of the basics. There have
- 49:15been a lot of conversations around these autopsy reports. There's
- 49:19an official one from the state, but also the family
- 49:22has gone on their own path to produce an independent autopsy.
- 49:25What has sort of been revealed through these reports? Again,
- 49:28the official one has not yet been released yet, But
- 49:30what's the difference between the two and why are they
- 49:32important to figuring out what ultimately happened to Nolan.
- 49:35Speaker 2: Wels Sure the state autopsy is conducted first, because the
- 49:40state actually had custody of Nolan's body way before the
- 49:44family got their hands on the body, and we're able
- 49:47to send it to an independent autopsy for an independent autopsy.
- 49:50So what you have is the state actually had the
- 49:53body in its most original state from once it was recovered,
- 49:57and so they have the primary opportunity and duty to
- 50:01investigate and examine this body for any type of science
- 50:04or trauma or drowning and any other type of physical
- 50:08injuries or the condition of the body. Whereas an independent examiner,
- 50:12they're getting a body after the original autopsy is done,
- 50:15and oftentimes the body, as once again during the autopsy
- 50:19is cut open. Not only is the external body examined,
- 50:22but also the internal body is examined as well as
- 50:25toxicology chests of the sort to see if there are
- 50:27any type of any type of intoxicins on board, alcohol
- 50:31and things of that nature. So the independent autopsy is
- 50:34a way for a family to get answers in advance
- 50:37of the state's autopsy coming out, and oftentimes that's all
- 50:40the family has because the state autopsies oftentimes take much
- 50:44longer to deliver the results to the family. And as
- 50:46you can imagine, if you're a family, you're anxious to
- 50:49know what happened to your son.
- 50:52Speaker 10: Absolutely, and so we do know from Ben Crump, he's
- 50:55the attorney who's currently working there with the family. They've
- 50:58been very outspoken about what they believe happened to their
- 51:01son and just really wanting to know more answers from
- 51:04those officials who are in charge of this investigation. But
- 51:07so far as we've been talking about that independent autopsy,
- 51:09we do know that the family released some information indicating this.
- 51:14They said publicly that the determined and cause the manner
- 51:17of death is undetermined, pending investigation. Legally, what does undetermined
- 51:22mean and why might this information that this independent autopsy
- 51:26brings also be able to be reconciled with what the
- 51:29state has in order to put together the real pieces
- 51:32of what happened to Nolan Wells.
- 51:34Speaker 2: All Right, Well, the independent autopsy and the person who
- 51:37conducted it, forensic examiner, was not able to reach a
- 51:41final conclusion about the cause of death. Why because they
- 51:44were missing significant parts of Nolan Wells's body, in particular
- 51:48his LARNINGX and his throat, which may lead evidence, lead
- 51:52to evidence or maybe evidence towards saying that he was
- 51:55chosen or asphyxiated or things of that nature. Are also
- 51:59that he took on water and he drowned, because that
- 52:01was the initial story that was put out and that
- 52:04was what officials suspected, or at least they said they suspected,
- 52:08was that he drowned. And so not having the throat,
- 52:10which could be evidence of maybe some foul play, is
- 52:14super important. And without really fully examining the body, a
- 52:18forensic examiner cannot rule out or rule in a particular
- 52:23cause of death. So that's critical for the families, for
- 52:27the family to get that information.
- 52:29Speaker 10: And so Dante, I want to ask you this. We've
- 52:31seen several videos that have surfaced online TMZ, who's some
- 52:34of our partners here at Thoughts. They have obtained video
- 52:37of some of the moments where Nolan Wells was last
- 52:40seen there on the island. He's there on several boats,
- 52:43he seems to be with the crowd of people. So
- 52:45my question for you is about witnesses and the story
- 52:47that they'll be able to tell in order to help
- 52:49move along in this investigation. How critical are some of
- 52:53those eye accounts of people who are there on Horn
- 52:55Island to get together the pieces that really determine Nolan
- 52:59Wells life the last few hours as he was alive.
- 53:02Speaker 2: Witness accounts and their statements are critical. They are actually
- 53:06very pivotal to try to piece together what took place
- 53:10because the witnesses have essentially first hand information as to
- 53:14whatson place, who was involved in how this whole thing
- 53:18came to be. And also you can use those witness
- 53:20accounts to either undermine or contradict, or to further probe
- 53:24bended with maybe some of the initial statements were made
- 53:26by his friends who actually sailed out to Horn Island
- 53:30with him and ultimately left him, at least their claims
- 53:33are that they left him on Horn Island. So it's
- 53:35going to be critical to interview each and every one
- 53:37of those witnesses, no matter when they saw Nolan or
- 53:41if it was before or after his friends left, because
- 53:43that's going to determine the circumstances, the mind state he
- 53:46was in, whether there was any type of arguments, any
- 53:48type of disagreements, whether they saw him with the phone,
- 53:51because as we know, the phone made it back to
- 53:54Mississippi and on to Land, whereas Nolan supposedly left opts
- 53:58to say Nolan stayed, did not take the boat right
- 54:01back with his friends, and that I think most people
- 54:03will find that pretty odd that a person would leave
- 54:05their boat, I mean, would leave their phone and not
- 54:09have it with them while they plan to stay behind
- 54:11and let their flans go on about their business for
- 54:14the day. That's just a little odd and odd factor
- 54:16that I'm sure the family is, you know, really trying
- 54:19to get.
- 54:19Speaker 1: To the bottom of.
- 54:20Speaker 10: And yes, especially in this.
- 54:21Speaker 1: Day, I'm I want to talk about that for a moment,
- 54:33because again, the clip was is like nine minutes long,
- 54:36and I didn't want to bore y'all out playing the
- 54:40clip in its entirety, but I will post it to
- 54:42my page to anyone that is interested in looking at
- 54:45the continue you know, finishing out what they had to see.
- 54:49But let's start with the cell phone. Because as she
- 54:56was about to see, and as she continues to see
- 54:58in the interview, in this day and age, who's leaving
- 55:01their cell phone? In this day and age and this
- 55:07climate and this temperature of the world, you see everybody
- 55:11with their cell phones. Everybody. You don't see not one
- 55:16person like this with a cell phone in their head,
- 55:23because that's like me saying, Oh, I'm gonna travel to
- 55:27New Orleans, but I'm gonna leave my phone here in
- 55:29Houston like that. That makes zero sense because again, in
- 55:36this climate, everybody has their cell phone ever, everybody old, young,
- 55:41and everybody in between. So that's number one. Then you
- 55:48have number two because I did see a couple of
- 55:51people posting saying they were a little conflicted about the autopsy.
- 55:57The throat and the layer nex were missing whenever an
- 56:01autopsy is conducted. And the only reason I know this
- 56:03is because my daughter just graduated with a bachelor's in
- 56:06criminal justice and she has explained and broken things down
- 56:10for me. And as she was explaining to me as
- 56:16well as the gentleman that was in the video clip,
- 56:21that's imperative, especially with the manner of his death. So
- 56:31that's imperative to note. Was he did he drown? Was
- 56:35he expiciated, asphyxiated, strangled and thrown into the water? So
- 56:42why was that not all sent? That reminds me again,
- 56:46that takes me back to the story of Kendrick Johnson.
- 56:50When Kendrick Johnson went missing after they completed the autopsy,
- 56:57how dare you not send all his parts. My sister says,
- 57:07my heart aches for his family, his parents and loved ones. Absolutely,
- 57:13because again, you have this eighteen year old young man
- 57:22who died under mysterious circumstances, and you mean to tell
- 57:26me you're not going to send the most imperative organs
- 57:31with the body for the independent autopsy. Make this make
- 57:41sense to me? Because to me of me and this again,
- 57:50this is only my opinion. What are you guys trying
- 57:54to cover up? Because other stories that I've looked into
- 58:02and read about that have happened in Mississippi under this
- 58:06same medical examiner have all come back, Oh, no foul play.
- 58:11It was a suicide. It was this, it was that.
- 58:15Why is this medical examiner not under investigation? Who are
- 58:22you trying to protect? It's also alleged that the young
- 58:29woman that was friends or girlfriend of Nolan Wells. I
- 58:33don't know, is I believe the daughter of the judge
- 58:38and the judge's friends with the medical examiner. Again, no
- 58:48sense of urgency. Again, I feel like we're getting the
- 58:55run around. I feel like they're just seeing whatever just
- 59:00to appease us. But again, when I saw that the
- 59:11autopsy was completing, and the things that were being said,
- 59:19my flabber was gassed, as they say, because why are
- 59:31we not getting transparency? You have a mother and a
- 59:39father that are grieving. And me, again, I'm not a
- 59:45legal analyst, I'm not an attorney. I'm not a medical examiner.
- 59:48I'm not a professional in that field. But I am
- 59:52a mother, So I understand. And then the people that
- 1:00:02are saying, oh, he was drunk, he had too much
- 1:00:07to drink, We don't know that. You're just making assumptions
- 1:00:13on information that hasn't even really fully been revealed. So
- 1:00:19shout out to all the Facebook detectives, Shout out to
- 1:00:27the woman that cleared the audio. Do I believe that
- 1:00:36this was murdered? Yeah, but again that's just my opinion
- 1:00:44and my patiently waiting to see what the autopsy really
- 1:00:48truly revealed. Absolutely, I think we all are. We wanna
- 1:00:58know what happened. We just want the truth. We just
- 1:01:08want pure transparency, just like so many other black men
- 1:01:16and black women and black boys and black girls that
- 1:01:19have lost their lives so tragically only to be told
- 1:01:22or it was a suicide. The story I told you
- 1:01:27all a couple of weeks ago about the young man
- 1:01:28that was at the festival who reported his friends to
- 1:01:34the police and then a few hours later wound up
- 1:01:36dead in the woods. Or the other young man in
- 1:01:41Mississippi who was found hanging with two broken legs, Or
- 1:01:52the young man whose story I shared that I read
- 1:01:53about yesterday, who was found in the woods, burned, shot, mutilated,
- 1:02:08Or the young man that witnesssing back in April, who
- 1:02:13was found in a lake and two people were only
- 1:02:18arrested for tampering with evidence. We're seeing this far too often,
- 1:02:30but never justice being served, Never justice being served. You
- 1:02:41don't feel like these parents, families of these loved ones
- 1:02:46deserve some type of justice, some type of closure. Some
- 1:02:55of you may agree, some of you may disagree. Y'all
- 1:03:04tussling back and forth on social media, hurling racial epithets
- 1:03:09at us because we're tired, we're exhausted. I remember when
- 1:03:20my niece went missing, no sense of urgency, only to
- 1:03:28be found in a manner that we didn't want her
- 1:03:30to be found in, along with another young lady, and
- 1:03:35police had the suspect right up under their nose the
- 1:03:37entire time. So yeah, this is personal to me, Nolan Wells,
- 1:03:52It's personal. The countless other young black men and black women,
- 1:03:58and black girls and black boys that have gone missing.
- 1:04:01This is personal. I need y'all to have that same
- 1:04:08energy when little Lion tell Carly Russell. I need y'all
- 1:04:14to have that same energy for nol In Wells and
- 1:04:16that and we seek and demand justice not only for
- 1:04:21Nolan Wells, but the others, the others. I want that
- 1:04:34same energy. I want justice for Kendrick Johnson, Tamila Horsford,
- 1:04:49Trey Read. The list goes on and on and on.
- 1:04:55I want documentaries for them. I want movies for them.
- 1:05:05I want law enforcement to do their job. I want
- 1:05:09the same sense of urgency that white people get. That's
- 1:05:19what I want. We want to know Nolan Well's family
- 1:05:29wants to know. His loved ones, want to know his
- 1:05:31real friends want to know. We're tired of the lies.
- 1:05:42We're tired of the contradictions. We're tired of oh well
- 1:05:46it was know. We're tired. We are fatigued and miss
- 1:05:55me with that. But y'all kill each other, we know.
- 1:06:01But when we do it, justice has served. As I
- 1:06:08tell y'all all the time. When Ray Ray Ray kills Pooky,
- 1:06:14guess what Ray Ray has sentenced to the fullest extent
- 1:06:17of the law. He is, he's found, he's brought to justice,
- 1:06:28and he's punished. But when it's the others that kill us,
- 1:06:37it was, oh, we didn't find any foul play. They
- 1:06:41get a slap on the wrist. Retired. We're exhausted. We
- 1:06:54are so some of the other updates that have come
- 1:07:00in regarding the Nolan Wells case. I do see there's
- 1:07:04new people that have tuned in. So again, y'all, welcome
- 1:07:07back or welcome to Black Girl interrupt the podcast. It's
- 1:07:10your girl, ass your favorite girl from the Fible for
- 1:07:13bringing you another beautiful episode tonight. We're discussing Nolan Wells.
- 1:07:18Was it an accident or was it murder? There have
- 1:07:24been some other news that have come in today regarding
- 1:07:28the timeline. Things aren't adding up, things aren't matching. It's
- 1:07:35saying it was this time, it was that time. So
- 1:07:39let's see again. This is a pretty long clip. But
- 1:07:41again I'm not gonna play the clip in its entirety,
- 1:07:44maybe three minutes just to kind of get the gist
- 1:07:47of it, because I want to keep this conversation going.
- 1:07:49Speaker 5: So here we go, and then it gives a working timeline.
- 1:07:54They started at three twenty three pm. They're saying it's unresolved.
- 1:07:57No continuous chronologists established in the supplied package. Three twenty three,
- 1:08:03the supplied vertical screen recording displays a phone clock and
- 1:08:06then the ghost to tell you at that user identified
- 1:08:09this as the start of the critical gap. This is
- 1:08:11the critical gap. That's a little bit later here, right
- 1:08:15between three twenty three, four to twenty seven and four
- 1:08:18thirty one. User identifies this as the start of the
- 1:08:21critical gap. Exact time and corroberating source are not contained
- 1:08:25in the supplied media package. Okay. And then four to
- 1:08:29twenty seven, a second supplied vertical screen recording displays a
- 1:08:34phone a clock four twenty seven while showing boats people
- 1:08:37in the anchorage time indicator potentially highly relevant. And then
- 1:08:42it gives you the NAIN NP four what is it
- 1:08:44B three whatever, and that is the image number that
- 1:08:47they can refer to. And then four thirty one, the
- 1:08:49boat on which Nolan arrived at Horn Island departed at
- 1:08:52sixteen thirty on. As we said, per the user supply timeline,
- 1:08:55the supplied package does not include the underlying GPA engine
- 1:09:01AIS record, proving this time again this is their analysis.
- 1:09:07Nothing has been proved. Yet it's still this all this,
- 1:09:10even this analysis, this report has to be corroborated and investigated,
- 1:09:15and people are going to go through it. And yes,
- 1:09:18I believe investigators are going to use this, okay, asserted Hinge.
- 1:09:22Underlying record not supplied.
- 1:09:24Speaker 4: Okay.
- 1:09:25Speaker 5: So then five o'clock, five o'clock Matthew Lamp states a
- 1:09:30passenger was pretty certain a person was part of a
- 1:09:33group that was almost fighting around five pm. He says
- 1:09:39the bertram with blue top left shortly afterwards and fast
- 1:09:48not believed to be a factor at this time, but
- 1:09:51they don't know. It is secondhand and it's social media claim,
- 1:09:56they say, five pm, inflicting. Melissa Thomas disputes the identification,
- 1:10:04states a different young man was with the group and
- 1:10:06says they spoke to the boys, one of whom had
- 1:10:09an entire vodka bottle, conflicting social media claim. And yes,
- 1:10:16the way this case is being handled does not seem normal.
- 1:10:20SR Warren one O three go to the next one.
- 1:10:26So we've heard about these we've heard about the fights,
- 1:10:28we've heard about the arguments, and then it shows do
- 1:10:31your correspondence later uses eighteen hundred GCST, which Central Standard
- 1:10:38Time six pm with the origin vessel GPS DATAM for
- 1:10:44SAAR sonar planning. This should not be interpreted automatically as
- 1:10:48a sighting time documented search planning time seven thirty Caitlin
- 1:10:53Bouchard states that they were parked next to the group
- 1:10:56and he was nowhere in sight when they left at
- 1:10:59seven thirty. Social media claim four thirty four to fifty
- 1:11:02pm six fifty CST new supplied shoreline photographs shows the
- 1:11:08crowded anchorage Frontier Bay. That's a boat. Vote number two
- 1:11:13is no longer in its earlier original position, matching the
- 1:11:19positional change seen in the later flight video still user
- 1:11:27supplied capture time direct visual configuration. So if this is
- 1:11:32from an aerial that is something that is has more
- 1:11:38validity than a social media claim. Although witnesses are very important.
- 1:11:43Witnesses are very important. And then we have the as
- 1:11:46we have said before, as they were pointing out the
- 1:11:48critical interval Andy, which is number six. Here, the critical
- 1:11:54interval the period requiring the most scrutiny. As I said,
- 1:11:56this is the most important thing. The period requiring the
- 1:12:00most scrutiny is the interval between the last independently corroborated
- 1:12:04sighting of Nolan and the asserted four point thirty one
- 1:12:08PM Triton departure. This is the critical time. The three
- 1:12:13twenty three and four to twenty seven visual material may
- 1:12:16bracket or illuminate part of that interval, but only in
- 1:12:21the displayed clock times. If the displayed clock times can
- 1:12:24be authenticated as corresponding to the original event recordings. The
- 1:12:29supplied media does not close the gap because they don't
- 1:12:33know if this four to twenty seven, if it was
- 1:12:34accurate through twenty three. They don't know which, which they
- 1:12:37would imagine would have captured, perhaps from video that they
- 1:12:41have gotten, or from an aerial or from wherever they
- 1:12:44got it. Okay, that is the critical point right there
- 1:12:47that I've been saying.
- 1:12:49Speaker 2: So scroll up.
- 1:12:51Speaker 5: Let's scroll a little bit, all right.
- 1:12:52Speaker 2: So we have all that.
- 1:12:53Speaker 5: We got the boat one, we've got Boat X, we
- 1:12:55got Okay, we know that their movement, their occupancy, they
- 1:12:58have been scanning and tracking all of that. Keep going, okay,
- 1:13:00because I want to get to some of the images.
- 1:13:02And then they have what the triton is doing.
- 1:13:04Speaker 9: They have that.
- 1:13:04Speaker 5: So here we go. This chair is squeaky, so don't
- 1:13:09think there's something else. Okay, So here's the thing. This
- 1:13:14is the comparative configuration. You see all those people in
- 1:13:17the water, and that's what they call the vessel cluster.
- 1:13:22Now you see why I don't like those that. Now
- 1:13:27you see why I don't like the clusters.
- 1:13:29Speaker 6: Look at that.
- 1:13:29Speaker 5: That's too many people in the water, too many people
- 1:13:33in neck deep water. Too much can go on. You
- 1:13:39lose track of your buddy. You don't know where it is.
- 1:13:41It could be let me just be on. It could
- 1:13:43be under a boat, could be stuck in something, could
- 1:13:47be stuck in an anchor. You have no idea with
- 1:13:51all of these things. And that is okay. So that's five.
- 1:13:55A source annotation shows boat X between boat number one
- 1:14:00and BOTE number two. Okay. And then you have the
- 1:14:04fight video. Botex is missing vote one point of view.
- 1:14:11This was taken from BOTE one and that's the point
- 1:14:16of view from BOTE one. I just I want to
- 1:14:18look at these pictures.
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: Keep going.
- 1:14:19Speaker 5: These pictures are very important. That's where I think you're
- 1:14:22going to get a lot of the information. And then
- 1:14:24you have that's the fight video that everyone is talking about. Right,
- 1:14:28Apparently there was a fight. The member that give me
- 1:14:30my f and phone. They said they couldn't tell who
- 1:14:32it was. A guy said it was him, and then
- 1:14:35someone else said, no, it was Nolan. Right, Still don't
- 1:14:38know for sure, but the friend said no, I was
- 1:14:40the one saying give me my phone. And then there
- 1:14:43are others who have disputed that on board the Triton.
- 1:14:47So this is Nolan. This is geospatial timeline. He is
- 1:14:52on board the Titan with one of his friends. The Triton,
- 1:14:57excuse me, the Triton, the Triton with one of his friends.
- 1:15:01And then there is you can see the Triton right there,
- 1:15:05the back of it. You see a dark skinned man
- 1:15:08on the back looks like sometimes these kids are so
- 1:15:10tan you can't tell they're out in the sun all day.
- 1:15:12And then then there's the Palm Beach, which is another boat,
- 1:15:15and then there is boat number three. Okay, keep scrolling,
- 1:15:19keep scrolling, Andy, let's go through this. And it tells
- 1:15:22you the photographs, right, it says the bayfrontier position changes sources.
- 1:15:25A newly supplied photograph is represented at having been taken
- 1:15:28at sixteen fifty CST, which would be after the sixteen
- 1:15:34thirty one. So if this is sixteen fifty after that,
- 1:15:41is that Nolan nineteen minutes after the users supplied sixteen
- 1:15:45thirty one departure of the boat on which Nolan arrived
- 1:15:48at Horn Island keep visual observations. Frontier Bay Boat number
- 1:15:53two is no longer in the earlier original position in
- 1:15:56Figure five A. This is consistent with the later flight video.
- 1:16:00Still where the vessel figuration was was likewise changed, has
- 1:16:05likewise changed analytical significance here. So this is where they're
- 1:16:09going to say. If the sixteen fifty capture time is authenticated.
- 1:16:13The photograph established an upper bound time Frontier Bay had
- 1:16:17moved from its earlier position by sixteen fifty. It does
- 1:16:20not establish the exact minute of the movement, destination occupants,
- 1:16:25or any connection between that movement and Nolan's disappearance. Nolan
- 1:16:30possibly in the photo but not confirmed.
- 1:16:34Speaker 3: But not.
- 1:16:37Speaker 5: Confirmed, but possibly in the photo. What on earth is
- 1:16:43happening here? Was it him? What time was that taken?
- 1:16:50Sometimes these investigations or these analysis can lead to more
- 1:16:54questions than answers. Thanks for watching, everybody, I appreciate you.
- 1:16:59Make sure you like subscribe and turn on.
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: Oh that is a lot to process. So this was
- 1:17:14breaking today. This was from the Cajun Navy. What was
- 1:17:21that Nolan was on that boat in between those times
- 1:17:26because we saw him. So if we're doing military time,
- 1:17:32sixteen hundred is four o'clock, was that Nolan on the boat?
- 1:17:39Was that Nolan in the water? Who was it? And
- 1:17:46some of the people in the comments were saying, this
- 1:17:48is getting messier by the day. Absolutely, but it's becoming
- 1:17:52a lot clearer. None of this has yet been authenticated
- 1:18:00or confirmed. But the real question is what really happened
- 1:18:07to Nolan Wells. That's what we're all wanting to know.
- 1:18:13That's what we're all rooting for and praying for that
- 1:18:19the truth does come to the life. Again. I understand
- 1:18:26investigations take time, and I would like for it to
- 1:18:32take time because I wanted to be a thorough investigation
- 1:18:36because again we've seen a lot of the conflicting stories
- 1:18:40the times of when they saw Noland first to when
- 1:18:44they saw Nolan last. But there's always three sides to
- 1:18:51a story, their side, the investigation, and then the truth
- 1:18:59lies in the middle. I just want someone whoever was
- 1:19:10on that boat with Nolan that day, was out on
- 1:19:13that water with Nolan, or someone else that was on
- 1:19:16another boat that saw because I wonder know what happened.
- 1:19:20Was that really truly a fight? Was that Nolan that
- 1:19:25said that said? Was it Nolan that said give me
- 1:19:28my FN phone? Or was it someone else? These are
- 1:19:39all theories again, no validity to them at all. None
- 1:19:49of this again has been authenticated, you know how Ai is.
- 1:19:55And like Don Lemon said, we're not sure if that
- 1:19:58was Nolan or not. And again the million dollar question
- 1:20:07goes back to why would Nolan leave his phone? Again,
- 1:20:19in this climate and in this temperature of this new generation,
- 1:20:23no one is ever without their cell phone. You're walking
- 1:20:27to the grocery store, somebody's on their phone. You're going
- 1:20:30to Starbucks, somebody's on their phone. You're going to the
- 1:20:33movie theaters, somebody's on their phone. Everyone has their phone
- 1:20:37in their hand at all times unless they're a seat.
- 1:20:43So make this make sense to me. Make this make
- 1:20:49sense to me. I want to know, as much as
- 1:20:56everyone else does, what happened to Nolan Wells. I pray
- 1:21:05for this family daily because again I sit on a
- 1:21:12platform that I created not only for me, but for y'all,
- 1:21:18for us to have these conversations. If this were my child,
- 1:21:26I would want someone to do this for me. I
- 1:21:33want justice. I want closure for the family and the
- 1:21:42loved ones of knowing Xavier Wells, a life taken far
- 1:21:51too soon. As the young lady in the Chad said,
- 1:21:56the young man had his whole life ahead of him.
- 1:22:04We have to be Nolan Wells's voice. We have to
- 1:22:10walk with his family. We have to hold uphold up.
- 1:22:15We have to hold his family up because they need
- 1:22:20all the prayer and love and comfort in this time.
- 1:22:26You have a mother and a father that are begging
- 1:22:30for the truth. You have love his loved ones that
- 1:22:38I'm pretty sure they want to get back. When is
- 1:22:47enough going to be enough? Again, you look at the timeline,
- 1:22:59we look at the odd tope, key things missing. But again,
- 1:23:07I know investigations take time, and I would rather for
- 1:23:14them to take the time to give a thorough investigation
- 1:23:17than to rush and feed us some bs. Not only us,
- 1:23:21but the family. Yeah, that's what I would love for
- 1:23:31the family. So my final thoughts as we get ready
- 1:23:39to bring this episode to a close. What really happened
- 1:23:46on July the fourth on Horn Island. Was it a
- 1:23:53tragic accident or was it a murder? Was that Northern
- 1:24:01Wells and those photos on that boat at the times
- 1:24:04that they say he was there or was it not?
- 1:24:12Who are they protecting? What are they covering up? Why
- 1:24:19was the most important organs of his body not sent
- 1:24:26when the family one of the independent autopsy shout out
- 1:24:32to Colin Kaepernick for paying for this independent autopsy for
- 1:24:38the family of Nolan Xavier Wells. Despite how y'all may
- 1:24:42feel about Colin Kaepernick, he still does good will true
- 1:24:51justice ever come. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
- 1:25:00But to know then, Xavier Wells, your life mattered. It's
- 1:25:09so tragic that your life had to end for other
- 1:25:11stories to come to the forefront. We will forever yell
- 1:25:18your name. We will never let you be forgotten. It's
- 1:25:29sad that we are left with the what ifs? Where
- 1:25:34do we go from here? Another episode today? Down for
- 1:25:44the books? Another episode so to change the temperature, a
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- 1:29:34will have been officially three here since the Montgomery, Alabama brawl.
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- 1:29:44and where are the people that were involved in this today?
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