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KALEN FRFR - Nacho Average FrFr · Eating While Broke

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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have very
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  Speaker 1: very special guests. He's out here making the West great again.
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  Speaker 1: Kaitlin for real, for reals in the building.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on? How are you good? How you doing good?
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  Speaker 1: I'm starving while you were on your way here. I
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  Speaker 1: ate orioles. I ate chips.
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  Speaker 2: The orioles is the dessert.
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  Speaker 1: I made it breakfast.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, what are you gonna have me eating today?
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  Speaker 4: So gonna start off, Gonna get some ground turkey going,
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  Speaker 4: and get some noodles going, whip all out of it
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  Speaker 4: together for you and put that in the bag. Smuch
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  Speaker 4: from hot Cheetos up and get that going. Some Doritos up.
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  Speaker 4: Mix all that together, and he got you a little
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  Speaker 4: lunch snack.
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  Speaker 1: Did you say put it in a bag? Yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: didn't have a bag.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna put it. We don't got a bag.
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  Speaker 1: Use a glo that's the touch the meat whatever. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna stay. You know what you got to those I.
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  Speaker 2: Could just use one hand.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Eating while I broke Eating while broke up
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  Speaker 1: in the building. What are you gonna name this dish?
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  Speaker 2: Two for Real Snacks Spectacular, Two for.
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  Speaker 1: Real Snacks Spectacular. Okay, I like, I really like that name.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good one.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good it's a good name. I love that
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  Speaker 1: you made sure to add the kool aiate you I love.
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  Speaker 2: I love grape kool Aid. That's the best kool Aid.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to get the powder and see how much
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  Speaker 1: sugar you put in it. But then I was just
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  Speaker 1: like I was under.
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  Speaker 2: The impression that that's what That's what I was.
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  Speaker 4: You're gonna yeah, I was liquid diabetes.
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  Speaker 1: Liquid diabetes. Okay, So take me back to this, uh
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  Speaker 1: Nacho ramen for real for real Spectacular Special. What did
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  Speaker 1: you call it?
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  Speaker 2: Two for Real Snack Spectacular.
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  Speaker 1: Two for Real Snacks Spectacular? What was going on? This
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  Speaker 1: sounds like something you was doing in elementary But take
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  Speaker 1: me back.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so my mama used to be at work all day,
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  Speaker 4: so I used to get home. I used to be hungry.
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  Speaker 4: She used to be like, go in there and cook something,
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  Speaker 4: and like I ain't really be wanting to wait on
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  Speaker 4: like to unthrow the meat or like you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying, I'm not gonna make no mashed potatoes and
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  Speaker 4: all that, Like I'm not doing that, so you feel me.
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  Speaker 1: We always have a seasoning the water.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for the ramen. Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Are you? But you already put the.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: This is interesting, just so you guys, don't. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even think he put the noodles.
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  Speaker 2: Did you put the noodles in?
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  Speaker 1: He's over there, he used I gotta recap it for
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  Speaker 1: the listeners. He took the ramen season garlic, put it
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  Speaker 1: in the water. He put garlic salt, Tony's dash and Lawry's. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if you're all familiar with ramen, which I hope you are,
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  Speaker 1: I want to I literally want to take a spoon.
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  Speaker 1: We don't even have utensils out here. Damn, what do
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  Speaker 1: I want to try? How salty this water is going
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  Speaker 1: to be. It's going I've never seen someone season on
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  Speaker 1: top of ramen season.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to observe you just use the ramen. That
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  Speaker 2: ain't enough?
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  Speaker 1: Clearly, Okay, so you was doing this? Clear what age
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  Speaker 1: were you doing this?
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  Speaker 2: I probably started making this when I was like ten.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so ten? Is it a single mom home?
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  Speaker 1: Do you have siblings?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: But I was I'm the youngest, so I was always
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  Speaker 4: really by myself a lot I'm a lot younger than
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  Speaker 4: my sisters and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I just but they were in the home
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  Speaker 1: with you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, no, no, we all got different mamas.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So you were like the only child.
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  Speaker 2: Of my mom, my mom only child.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, and dad wasn't.
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  Speaker 4: I got step pops. That's like my real Okay. I
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  Speaker 4: hate was wrong, but nah, that's it. That's about it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Okay, So what was your mom doing
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  Speaker 1: for work?
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  Speaker 4: My mom did a lot of stuff. Man, My mom
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  Speaker 4: had a couple of businesses. She was a social worker.
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  Speaker 4: She just did it all for real, you know. She
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  Speaker 4: she had a party planning business.
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  Speaker 2: Moms really got to work.
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  Speaker 1: Your mom was a social worker. I noticed when I
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  Speaker 1: was reading as much as I could about you, you
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  Speaker 1: have like an affinity for like special.
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  Speaker 2: Needs y'all want. That's what I studied in college.
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  Speaker 1: Does that have something to do with the fact that
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  Speaker 1: your mom was in social worker?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like definitely, Like I'm probably influenced by Like I
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  Speaker 4: don't think nobody's influenced boy, like just one thing specifically,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I feel like the universe talked to you,
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  Speaker 4: Like it be like a chain of events.
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  Speaker 2: So Yeah, with my mom.
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  Speaker 4: My mom being a social worker had a lot to
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  Speaker 4: do with it because I've seen so much. She was
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  Speaker 4: always gone, she was always dealing with other people, children
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  Speaker 4: and stuff like that. So sometimes I used to be hating,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, you know what I'm saying, when I
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  Speaker 4: got older enough to really understand that, like she was
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  Speaker 4: doing good work. You know what I'm saying, She's saving
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  Speaker 4: people lives, like you start really noticing.
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  Speaker 2: Other people's situations as you get older.
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  Speaker 4: I just really commend her for her job and all
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  Speaker 4: the stress and stuff that she had to go through,
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  Speaker 4: and on top of that, still deal with me, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and a handful that I was
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  Speaker 4: and then deal with life like you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So I commend her a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You do a give back event in LA. Can you
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  Speaker 1: tell us more about it?
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  Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, Two for Real Days.
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  Speaker 4: So we throw two for Real Day every year and
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  Speaker 4: it's like a community give back event, charity event. So
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  Speaker 4: we have performances and like games and little rides and
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  Speaker 4: stuff for all the kids to come out and have fun.
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  Speaker 4: We give back school supplies, we make sure they're ready
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  Speaker 4: for school, clothes and stuff like that. We got a
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  Speaker 4: lot of sponsors like Ethica, Puma's been one of the sponsors.
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  Speaker 4: True Religion was a sponsor last year. A lot of
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  Speaker 4: different food vendors and stuff come through and help us.
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  Speaker 4: Costco always donate a lot, so we just take that,
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  Speaker 4: take everything that we get from that and try to
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  Speaker 4: give it out to the community. We throw it at
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  Speaker 4: Compton College, so we'll probably start doing it every year
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  Speaker 4: at Company College. It started off as just a block
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  Speaker 4: party though in the neighborhood. We used to just throw
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  Speaker 4: a block party in the neighborhood. And when you say we,
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  Speaker 4: who was we to me and my homies and my
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  Speaker 4: family and my friends. Started off with me and my friends,
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  Speaker 4: and then as I became a bigger artist, we just
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  Speaker 4: like it became more and more and more, like just
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  Speaker 4: bigger every year, so we have to keep bringing people.
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  Speaker 1: What's interesting about you is you have this amazing artistry
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  Speaker 1: music career. Thanks and I don't know if it gets
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  Speaker 1: highlighted enough, but when you read your resume or your backstory,
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  Speaker 1: you have almost an equal amount of this whole other
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  Speaker 1: side of you that's like giving back or your degree,
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  Speaker 1: like you graduated with what did you say your degree
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  Speaker 1: was in? Like social science, social science, Like where's all
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  Speaker 1: this this other inspiration coming from?
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  Speaker 2: Probably my grandmother.
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  Speaker 4: My grandmother was really like a heavy influence on my life,
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  Speaker 4: Like that was my dog, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: So just before she passed away.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna have to stop tapping that. There's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: listeners there. They're gonna be like, stop tapping. Use another, uh,
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  Speaker 1: use another tool. Maybe maybe that flat one. I was
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  Speaker 1: gonna say the other food flat one, but maybe that one.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting all up in his stuff. Sorry, but like that,
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  Speaker 1: there's like something on there.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna put it, not.
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  Speaker 1: That on there? Yeah? What's that on that?
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  Speaker 2: All? Right?
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  Speaker 4: If you ain't never had a struggle meal with no dirt, like,
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  Speaker 4: stop playing, stop stop acting like you ain't never had
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  Speaker 4: a struggle meal with no dirt in here.
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  Speaker 2: You ain't never sneeze on food. You ain't never dropped
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  Speaker 2: the ice cube picked back up through it. I have,
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  Speaker 2: I've done that, but I still do.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know if I've ever sneezed in food.
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  Speaker 4: Though I didn't drop the homie full taco shells on
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  Speaker 4: the ground, still made them.
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  Speaker 1: For him, I don't. I don't know if I'll ever
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  Speaker 1: let you cook for me off camera. Off cameras on
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  Speaker 1: camera can see if you mess it up.
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  Speaker 2: You just gotta pay attention. You never know, I might sprinkling.
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  Speaker 1: What's crazy is you put all that seasoning in the water,
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  Speaker 1: but I have not seen any seasoning on the meat
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  Speaker 1: that has attention.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you put seasoning on it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I was so busy focused on listening. Okay, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's go back to the story. Okay, So the inspiration
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  Speaker 1: for all this other complete polar opposite of who who
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  Speaker 1: it seems like you represent in your music.
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  Speaker 4: I don't really think it's like a opposite, like I'm
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  Speaker 4: still the same person.
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  Speaker 2: It's just like that's kind of that's pretty.
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  Speaker 4: Much like the basis of why I started making music
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  Speaker 4: is that you can be whoever you want to be.
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  Speaker 2: Is still be a.
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  Speaker 4: Rapper, Like you don't gotta be a thug, you don't
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  Speaker 4: gotta be like, you don't gotta be nothing like stereotypical.
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  Speaker 2: You could be whoever you want to be and still
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  Speaker 2: make it.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Chief success, people still think
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  Speaker 4: you cool, Like cool is like standard of yourself, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean? That's what the for real for
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  Speaker 4: real means it's like it's like doubling down on being yourself,
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  Speaker 4: being real.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where that comes from.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So take me back. You're a kid growing up
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  Speaker 1: at home, what's your next injection towards artistry? Like growing up, like,
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  Speaker 1: where do you start figuring out what you want to do?
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  Speaker 4: I played sports, so I was really playing sports and
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  Speaker 4: like just music and sports kind of I go hand
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  Speaker 4: in hand. So when I was a kid, I know
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to make music too, but I didn't know
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  Speaker 4: I want to be a rapper. I always thought I
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  Speaker 4: wanted to be like a producer or something. So I
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  Speaker 4: started off kind of just like making beasts, but I
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  Speaker 4: was like horrible. So I was like, let me just
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  Speaker 4: try something else. And I started rapping a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: and then me and my homies around my neighborhood we
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  Speaker 4: all started rapping too, like everybody on my street.
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  Speaker 2: So it was just making music together. Were just putting
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  Speaker 2: it together.
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  Speaker 4: And as I got older, when I got done playing football,
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  Speaker 4: I was like, I want to do something.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm gonna take like a year and focus
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  Speaker 5: on rap. And after I focused on rap, it just
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  Speaker 5: started to take off.
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  Speaker 1: And how did your mom feel about this whole idea
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  Speaker 1: of you getting into rap.
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  Speaker 2: She was like, I don't really care because I graduated
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  Speaker 2: from college.
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  Speaker 4: So she was like, man, whatever you're gonna do, just
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  Speaker 4: do it, just do it out one hundred percent. So
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  Speaker 4: she she supported it. I remember early on, like when
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  Speaker 4: I was young, she was scared for me. But I
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  Speaker 4: could tell she was scared for me rather than you
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  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, didn't want me to chase my
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  Speaker 4: dreams because it just was like, you know what, parents,
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  Speaker 4: it's a different generation, generational gap, so the what you
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  Speaker 4: can be was more limited back then, Like you know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like she probably got so many friends
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  Speaker 4: and people that wanted to be rappers and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 4: and went down the rabbit hole.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: You like, you don't think your little son gonna make
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  Speaker 4: it or your baby gonna make it. When they when
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  Speaker 4: they're like, oh I want to be a rapper, I
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  Speaker 4: want to do this, you just think like damn, Like
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people get discouraged, like day you don't
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  Speaker 4: want to work hard and stuff like that. Like I
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  Speaker 4: had other family members telling me like I don't need
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  Speaker 4: to focus on rap, like I need to get a
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  Speaker 4: job and stuff like that, and it's.
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  Speaker 1: Like, how did that make you feel? When they would
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  Speaker 1: say that.
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  Speaker 4: I've never really been a person to have hurt feelings.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, you really get one chance with me? Like
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  Speaker 4: if you if you ain't saying what I'm liking in
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  Speaker 4: the first like five minutes, I'm You're toned out for life.
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  Speaker 2: I'll never listen to you again.
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  Speaker 1: You hear that, y'all. That means when you run up
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  Speaker 1: on Caitlin, you make sure you get your words correct. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you got that? What two elevator pitch before yours?
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  Speaker 2: I'm an Aries, man, I hate you fast.
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  Speaker 1: I love Aries people, Aquarius and Arias. I think just
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  Speaker 1: get along really great.
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  Speaker 2: They're pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: They pretty cool. When's your birthday?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, I hang out with a lot of Aries.
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  Speaker 6: Aries.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so that's crazy. I hang out with a
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  Speaker 2: lot of Areas and Queries.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Aquaries. I promise you. I have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Aries people that I deal with. And when
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  Speaker 1: I say there's something magical about aquaries and aries hanging out,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about dating, but I will say, like
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  Speaker 1: hanging out, there's something cool about it. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about signs, but I do
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  Speaker 1: know like aquaries and aris. Okay, all right, so take
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  Speaker 1: me back to when you start to seeing glimmers of
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  Speaker 1: like your music is working in the right direction.
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  Speaker 4: Direction a little after college, maybe like twenty like eighteen,
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  Speaker 4: like sounds start going up crazy on SoundCloud.
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  Speaker 2: My my project.
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  Speaker 4: I put a project out in like that July, and
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  Speaker 4: I think by like maybe like September October, I was
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  Speaker 4: like a full fledged artist, Like I really didn't have
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  Speaker 4: no choice. I was doing shows every weekend. I was
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  Speaker 4: getting booked. I was living in Atlanta, and like people
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  Speaker 4: was playing my music back out here, and I was
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  Speaker 4: like blowing up out here.
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  Speaker 2: I had no clue. I got back home.
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  Speaker 4: My homies just like yeah, like hey this dude want
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  Speaker 4: a bookie for a show like this?
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  Speaker 2: Do want a bookie for a show. I'm like, hell no,
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  Speaker 2: I need a manager or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what we doing?
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  Speaker 4: So my homie Marlin, Me and my homie Marlin, we
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  Speaker 4: was just thugging it out like as much.
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  Speaker 2: As we could do.
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  Speaker 1: Pop were like just in your DM's booking you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, DM and.
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  Speaker 4: Me walking up on me in person like it was
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  Speaker 4: even crazy, And I went on this like little I
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  Speaker 4: went on tour with OJIEZ. When I came back from that,
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  Speaker 4: my whole life was just like changing like fast, and
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  Speaker 4: like before you knew it, I was on my own tour.
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  Speaker 1: And then what was your mom saying when all this
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  Speaker 1: is going on.
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of like quiet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So like with my mom, we talk about everything, but
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  Speaker 4: I'm the type of person like I don't really talk
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  Speaker 4: about what I got going on until I'm finished because
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to jinx myself, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: So nah, just telling my mom, she like, I'm like yeah, man,
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  Speaker 4: Like I think one day I came to the house
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  Speaker 4: probably in like twenty like eighteen or twenty seventeen, and
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  Speaker 4: I was like, hey, I'm finna move out. She was
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  Speaker 4: like what. I was like, yeah, like I'm out. I'll
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  Speaker 4: see you later. Like I got apartment, she was like where.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like like by lax. She was like in Marina
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  Speaker 4: del Ray. I'm like yeah, low key like yeah. She
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  Speaker 4: was like yeah, And I gave her some h your
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  Speaker 4: mom with the news yeah, because it's like I was
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  Speaker 4: just like I came because I was living in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: I had already left like when I got out of college.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm about to go to dow.
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  Speaker 1: Atlanta went you went to school, but where did you
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  Speaker 1: go to college?
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  Speaker 2: At San Diego State?
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  Speaker 1: Okay? And then you just moved to Atlanta like.
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  Speaker 2: The day after I came out of college.
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  Speaker 1: Did and you surprised her with that move too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: When I came home, I was like, she was like, well,
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  Speaker 4: so what you gonna do. I'm like, I ain't gonna lie.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, if you could just watch my dog for me,
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  Speaker 4: I'll be back, like in like six months, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: come back.
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  Speaker 2: She was like what.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, just give me like six months
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  Speaker 4: I'll be back or something like that, Like I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: just go figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go try it out here for And why
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  Speaker 1: did you choose Atlanta? By the way, I think those
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: noodles are going to be like, baby, you don't want
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: to you you don't want to turn it off?
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: You see that.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: It's okay, yeah, okay. This is what happens when you
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: watch a man cook is like nerve wrecking, Like please
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: don't burn down the house.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: It's okay, It's okay, we do.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: This, okay, see he said, He said, I took my
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: advice for me, or was I was? I leading you
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: in the right direction.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: You gotta learn when to listen, you know what I'm saying.
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: As a man, you gotta learn how to listen.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: I was like, we eat baby for when you done
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: all right? All right? So you moved to Atlanta. What's
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: the inspiration to move from LA to Atlanta?
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: That's just where music was like the mecca at that time,
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: Like everything was coming up out of Atlanta.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: I figured, like, you know what I'm saying, let me
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: see what I can go.
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: Down there and learn. I can go down there network
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: maybe you know something to come up of it. So
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: I was just chilling down there my home meet. I
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: was my roommate in college in San Diego. He had
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: moved back. He was from there, so I just wanted
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: to go stay with Bro. Was staying out there just
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: making music. Every day, working on music. I was getting around.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: I ended up making someone probably like my best music.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: Think out there is why I like found like my confidence.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: Like in Atlanta, you could be whatever you want if
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: you like a garbage man, like a Nick Gonna tell
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: you I'm the best garbage man ever. Like if you
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: like a cameraman, dude, gonna be the best camera man,
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: even if they not.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, But.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: Like the sense of pride that you have about yourself
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: that I found out there, Like just seeing so many.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Like people that looked like me that were successful.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: I had never really seen a lot of successful people
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: like me in all different lanes and attributes. So I
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: think it kind of just motivated me a lot, you
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, being out.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: There in that way.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: So then what made you decide to come back home?
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: I had to because of the six month you told
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: your my home.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: Nah, I just started blowing up. I started getting bigger,
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: like my music and stuff.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Making the music out there, we hearing it.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: You're just uploading, putting it on Yeah, I'm just putting
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: it on SoundCloud, letting it go, just sending it to people.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: I send my music to like five hundred people a day. Yeah.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I used to send my music out every day all
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: day to a bunch of people.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: And just like in the in the in like doing that,
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: I just happened to start blowing up, blowing up.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: So you come back out here, You're getting booked for
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: shows where do you end up being signed because now
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: you're moving without management.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, No, I had.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: I got with my brother Ray, So now I'm signing
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: to like first Class Entertainment, Okay. And after that that's
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: when we A couple of years later, after that, we
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: just was going up putting it together.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: I was moving around doing.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: I probably didn't have to drop a song for like,
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: I didn't have to drop no new music for like
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: three four years.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: So it was just going up off of that it
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: for like three years.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: And that's good because you got to really work the record. Yeah.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: I got to work all my projects, so like I
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: had dropped too for real, and then it just was
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: going crazy. So once that happened, we got out of that,
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: we went over to UH. We had some meetings, We
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: had a lot of meetings. We had meetings with everybody,
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: whole bunch of labels, and it just.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Felt like the best fit was to be like a
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: rock nation.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Can you know what I'm saying, the best fit? Yeah, yeah,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: it sounds like good friend. Tell us how it happened.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: I was performing at UH the BT Experience.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: You familiar with that.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: So there was a show at the BT Experience that
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: UH DJ head had put on and at the p
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: at the time, Sherry was the president of Sherry Bryant
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: was the president in the Rock Nation.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: And I had been knowing one of her A and
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: R's Earl, like that's my homie. I had been knowing
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: him for a long time.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: So I used to sit and wrote my music like consistently, consistently,
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: and just one day, uh, Scherry, see me perform. And
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: then before you knew it, I was just on the
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: plane going to New York. Like he was like, hey man,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: let me.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: Uh let me he let me take you to the
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: to lunch.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, all right, so I'll pull up on
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: him well eating lunch, and I'm like, you feel me
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: like I pay for like I pay for it like you.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: He was like, no, I gotta pay for it. It's
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: on the label, Like this was like a business meeting.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: I'm like what you mean, Like he like, well, ship,
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: they want to fly you out there and meet with
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: like your people so we can like sign you.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: We want to sign you.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, man, shut up, earl, you lying like.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Like you playing like today ain't no time to play.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Stop playing. But I just gave him. I gave him
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: rate number, and I'll just let them figure it out
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: From there, I think like maybe like two weeks later,
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: we have Fluid in New York and we was at
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: the office.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: So was that your first time in New York?
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Yep, that was my very first time. That was my
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: second time going to New York. Actually my second time
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: going to New York.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what do you think about pizza?
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Y'all? Got a good pizza? Y'all got a good pizza y'all?
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Impan out of Mama.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: And panata is Ain't nobody going to New York to eat.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I can't leave it. I'm gonna bring the imp and
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: out of Mama back.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, take it on the plane with me.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I had that.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: You never had I out of Mama. You from New York. Yeah,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: word to my mother. You gotta figure that out.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna figure it out.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I go.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I go there at least two to three times a year.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Me too, I get about that much.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I just came back from there.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So did you ever get to meet Hoover or
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: anything like that?
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I met him.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: I met Hove in La before I met him in
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: New York. I met him in LA at the LA office.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: So if you don't know anything about me, which you
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: kind of already know, is I'm a huge jay Z fan.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: So you got a legendary picture I got.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I had my mom paint that custody like that.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I gave her just so you know, the picture doesn't
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: even do it justice. I gave my mom like a
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: really tiny picture, very tiny, very blurry picture. And I
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: was like twenty four, and I was like, Mom, I
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: will pay you in payments if you make this massive
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: painting for me. She did it for me.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: That's dope. You got a dope.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I don't want to tell you how much she charged me,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: because she charged you. She very little. Now if you
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: ask her, she'll be like, go sell my painting the
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: jay Z. I'll make you another one, and like, no,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: the only one in the world.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: You should get it.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Only I would never he would love that though.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: He's so he's so deep into like fine arts, like yeah,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: but everywhere it is like a museum.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: He would own the only one. And then I'd have
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: to beg my mom to paint another one. Yes, and
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: my mom my Mom's trying to charge a lot more
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: for them. Paintings.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Now, your mom like you gotta just for next, Like my.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Mom be like ten thousand.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you like over life, we got a whole life.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: She's gonna fall for that. She ain't gonna fall for that.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: My mom's gonna stop following for it. She watched this,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be over all right.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: So you gotta share one jay Z store just because
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I'm a fan freak.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: So remember when that whole thing was going around, Like
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: when they was like, hey, do would you.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Rather take the dinner?
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Or would you rather get the money? We was talking
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: about that one day and I was like, hey, I
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: got the dinner. Animal. He was like, that's a bar.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: You said that to him?
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah? What? He cool?
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: It was awesome, you know what. It's so funny because
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: everyone on this show who shares stories about Jay, he
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: sounds hell of cool. Like Neo said that he would
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: call him the nigga that what did he say? He
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: was like the nigga that gave the.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Song to Mario or some shit, the nigga that gave
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: us song to Mario.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: He gave the hit record to Mario. Yeah, he's mad
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: about that for a while. Yeah, yo, because Neil was
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: signed to him and he gave that song to Mario's.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Breakout record Okay just a Friend.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: And then Sipho Sounds had a good story about how
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: he worked in jay Z's office and he acted he
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: was like what up, Jay, and Jay stopped and was
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: like that's how you greet me, like I'm jay Z
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: or something. So everyone always has a really cool story.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Crazy. I ain't never seen nothing see no jay Z
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was very funny. He just seems like he's
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: a very fun guy.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he cool. He cool is here?
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that day is gonna come. I'm gonna
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: call you up and send you an email like.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Yo, my moment, kne you sold that picture And.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I had I got the money and
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the dinner. That's what I'm gonna say to him. Steal
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: that same bar, got.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: The money in the dinner. I got the money and
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: get that.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: That's awesome, bro. Yeah, okay, so you got the money
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: in the dinner.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: I remember one day I stepped on his carpet too,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: and I had to tell him like, hey, I thought
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: you was gonna shelf me.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I've been out here.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Stressed the whole time. He got like this white this
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: white all pack of rug. It looked like remember on, uh,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: what's that ship called with with Denzel Is that movie
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: called American Gangster.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: He was like, you dab that ship, blot that ship whatever?
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: We stepped on it?
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like dirty as shoes. Yeah, like it was like
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: it was. I was trying not to step on it.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I was like, I didn't make it. And I was looking.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I looked his shoes was off.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, so did you draw attention to it?
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: Like when I went outside, I just went back outside
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: on the balcony and I was like smoking.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I was just sitting there chill, and he came outside
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: and I was like, my bathroot stepping on your rug.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: He was like, man, about that ship man, He's like what.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I'm I'm like I thought I was
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: gonna get shelfed. I thought it was over with.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: I'm like, damn't already started texting my management like y'all
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: fucked up?
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Man, I stepped on that nigga rub.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's cool. So not only have you had
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the dinner and the money, but you've been inside his crib.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: No, that wasn't his house that was like his office.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: It was just a nice rug.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, nice nice place. Okay, Well hopefully your little
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: footprints still there. I'm pretty sure.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, legendary footprint.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: You know. All right, so you're you get the deal.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: What are you saying? Are you at least calling Mama yet?
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Because I feel like Mama's getting like not as much
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: ranging love from you?
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah? No.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Like, like I said, I'm the type of person like
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: I don't really do nothing to this.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: So I waited till like everything was good to tell
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Mom was like, hey, look I did it. You know
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: So Kaitlyn is just finished making our dish. It looks delicious.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Apparently it's gonna be nachos. I want to try it.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Clean went not a team, don't nartisize me.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Don't what you know what? I feel like it's missing something.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: It's missing a sauce.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Like cheese, like a Kessel. No, but what like a
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Kessel cheese. You gotta have been fired.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: It's really good.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: I would have just went to the guns station and
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: got some little Kesso cheese real quick.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know. I would have done cool
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: ranch chips. I would have done nacho.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: He's my favorite.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: The cool ranch with this though. You know what, this
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: is good. This is what I'll say for everyone listening.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: This is actually very impressively good. I love the meat,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I love the seasoning. The seasoning was really good. I
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: like this just but you need cheese. It was really good.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Sometimes, like when I was young, it might be like
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: one two slices of cheese left.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention. Did you drop the noodles in
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: with the meat and then stir it? This ship is good.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: It's like a hood classic.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: You gotta get through it.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: This is good. You wish you would have had cheese.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: So, ladies, when you when you want to go to Carbone,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: not going to Carbone.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Is hilarious, spoken like a true Now why you keep
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: turn that?
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Don't know?
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I watched you answer a date question and I was like.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: What was it? What kind of question was it? Oh?
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, something on your little on your timeline. This girl said,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: was a deal of a perfect date or something?
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Honest to this dude's a narcissists.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: That don't make me a narcissist.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: You've been claiming that the whole time, and then when
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I say it, it doesn't sound good.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: That doesn't that doesn't like justify narcissism.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Though, okay, as I've spoken like a true nigga.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Though like a true nigga, I take that. It was
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: answer okay.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: So I will say this. You and I are like
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: polar opposites in the sense that, like if I even
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: sat might think something great is gonna happen, I literally
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: call like ten people, and then when it doesn't happen,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I totally warn people up from I'm gonna be really
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: sad and that's how I live my life. And then
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: you're the opposite. A deal can be signed, money could
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: be transferred to your bank account, and you're gonna hold
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: it in the whole time. So how did you tell
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: your mom about the I hate to go back to
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: your mom, but I always feel like moms are like that.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: I told her like a Musico met with regnation. No, actually,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: I think I called her a while I was in
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: New York. She called me like what you doing. I'm like, oh,
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: I'm in New York.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: She like, how do you not stress this woman out?
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: She got my location and it's like, if you're looking
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: for me, you know exactly how to find me.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, you share it with me? Okay, you know what, Jesus,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: she's probably got to check that every day.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: My sister usually check it.
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: Your sister what My big sister usually check it every day,
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: Like she wake up in the marning. I think that's
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: like one of the first things to do because if
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: I'm somewhere that's unfamiliar, She'll start calling me at like
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: six o'clock in the morning, where are you at.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: That's how I am with my little brother when I
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: go to New York. He hates it. I know he does,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: but it'll be like five in the morning'll be like,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: where are you at. I'll be blowing up his phone.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: You don't answer, I'll text him. But the last time
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I did this, I said, yo, I texted like where
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: you at? He was like, I'm good. I said, prove
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: you're my little brother. Because he didn't call back. He's
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: text him like, how do I know he didn't get murdered?
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: And you know, somebody, my little brother is crazy.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I was like, tell me what you used to call
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: me when you was a little kid like, and he
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: was like, you're fucking losing it. But I'm like, yo,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: when you know you got to make sure you know.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Your people safe instincts.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I know he hates that shit. But anyways,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: go on. So you break the news to your mom
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: you're going to this meeting with Rock Nation. She obviously
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: knows that you're about to get signed. What does she say?
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: She was like, my fingers crossed for you. Just let
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: me know because she I've always been like this my
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: whole life. Like I'll be getting like a word at
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: school or something.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: I won't say nothing until like the day before, like yeah,
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: like like if I got to show or something like that,
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: I'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm just about to go
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: do a show real quick.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: I'll just be I feel like my mom tells me,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I downplay everything.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I like that. I actually like that. I
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: like that. Like I said, I'm the opposite. I could
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I could win a dollar and you don't know about
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: it or even change his hands and be.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Like, oh what a dollar. Yeah, I'm real quiet. I
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: don't really like mm hmm.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I'll just be But you be excited on the inside.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, e static, like a little like you know when
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: you shake up a soda. Yeah that's me on the inside.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: I'd be a sthetic, but on the outside, I'll just
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: be like chilling and then it's just like.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I said, it's high standards for myself.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: So it's like, all right, that's cool, but that's not
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: really where you want to go, you know what I'm saying.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: I don't never want to get too excited. I see
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: a lot of people get excited about their accomplishments and
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: stuff like that and then get lost in the sauce
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: and then like, yo, accomplishments be so lower level, you
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And I don't want to It's
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: like it all plays a different role. You know, you
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: can't downsize anybody's accomplishments.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, like.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: If you're chasing a bigger dream, then you know what
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, then you can't be satisfied with the bare.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Minimums, you know what I mean.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: So I noticed with a lot of successful people on
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: this show, the ceiling is constantly being moved. You'd be
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: surprised how many guests, Rappers included, they have admitted to
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: crying on the show. And like, these real intense situations,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you're very successful, but the glass ceiling just continues to move.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Is that how it is with you?
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, every day.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Like, it's no such thing as being finished, you know
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: what I mean. It's not no like you should never
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: there's never enough work done, you know what I mean.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: There's always more work to do every day.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: But that's I'm an athlete though, whole a lot of
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: that comes from me being hot.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: And when you say athlete, football okay, yeah, you look
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: football built. Guys, I thought he was gonna be five
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: to seven, crazy, six to one. I was like, oh,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I was completely off.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: It's because I'll be singing. People be thinking I'm to
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: be short.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Plus a lot of people on the end is
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: especially like especially if you're talking singing, they're usually shorter,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: with the exception of like three the.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: Girls told me she didn't believe that I was with
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: like some friends and they had like some girls people
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: like some people with them, and I guess she never
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: seen what I look like. She had only heard my music.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: My friends was like, yeah, he a rapper, Like yeah,
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: all you know what I'm saying. It was just calm collective.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: We was hanging out and they're like, yeah, that's his
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: music that he was playing. She was like, that's not him.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: That dude's like light skin or something, and She's like, sure,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: he's too big to be here.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I can see that because you look like
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: football player built.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like him.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: I'm like, that's what I sound like. I sound like
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: a like a short, light skinned guy, like you know
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. She was like on the load, like
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: I can't really believe that's you. She's like sing right now.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, wow, no, sorry, you should have had
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: one of your little your friends, like pretend to be.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: What we doing on front of wordship.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I believe it. I believe it. I believe it. So
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: what is one experience that you could say in the
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: industry that really made you go whoa.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, like whoa like a bad war or like
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: a good.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Like a good whoa. Now I'm curious about a bad woe,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: but a good who First.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: I think just people like bigger artists knowing, like knowing
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: who I am. I think one one dope experience was
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: at the pop out.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: At the pop out with.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Kendrick, I was gonna say, I would think you would
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: mention that, Yeah.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: No, that was dope.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: Backstage, I seem tireder creator, and I'm like a low
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: key tired of the creator.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Fan like, I'm not like, you know, like.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: He got his fans, Like I like his music as
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: much as his fans, but I'm not like all into
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: his aesthetic. You know what I'm saying. I got my
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: own Inestad, I got my own style, but I fuck
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: with his music. He makes great music. I've seen him backstage.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: He was like, what's the deal? It's like fun with
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: your ship.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, I was playing cool. I was like,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: da I got outside. I'm like called it home. Yeah.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: I only got like two three homies that I like,
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: really like act like be excited about.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Say Naked said they could see me be excited.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I like, So are those the homies you call when
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: like the rock nation deals? Do you do those those?
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Because I like seeing that side of you where you
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: get like that.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I lost my homie.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: Just get me crying all kinds like that, so like
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: happy tears and everything.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: So tell me about this woe bad experience. Tell me
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: one good one that you don't have to drop names,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: but you can always hint. Dude, don't don't.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: It's just so much going on.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: It's just like I don't know where to start, because like,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: I don't really care, that'd be my biggest thing.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I love how you're tearing these up his breakfast. You know,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the chip bites, the ones with the little freedom chip
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: things in it. What are these crunch chips or whatever?
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: That's where it hit because it has a.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Little crustpicttle tame.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: All right, Come on, name a name because a time.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Don't name a name, but name a name.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: No, what's a wold situation or industry situation. I don't
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: really think I had too many bad woes, just one.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: I don't really have no bad ones.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Alright, Well you were the one that baited me into
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: it technique.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: That's what I was gonna tell you, though, if you
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: if you thought it was as a female, you always
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: have one a bad woe in the industry. Yeah, yeah,
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Like I don't really take I don't take this stuff serious.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Like you got different types.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Of people, you know what I mean.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: You got people that want to be in the industry.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: You got people that have no choice but to be
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: in the industry. And then you got people that don't
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: really care much for what's going on. Like you could
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: tell like who wanna be in the industry cause it's
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: like whoa like you.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: They'll do anything. You know what I'm saying.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: They do anything, they do everything, they'll it just doesn't
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: make sense, like you could tell it's not a part
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: of their character. Then you got people that's this is
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: really their character. They've been acting like this they whole life.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: They was just built for this shit, Like you know
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. They just industry people. And then like
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: I feel like I'm more the type of person. It's
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: like I'll just be watching this shit like I'd be
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: like that's crazy.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I would never do that.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: Hell no, Like you know what I'm saying, Like I
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: don't really be on no industry shit, I would think.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: So, do you feel like your favorite part of your
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: job is making the music or performing?
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Performing?
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: So I feel like it fits in both, Like making
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: the music be such an experience for me because it's
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: like that's like therapeutic cause I get to just talk
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: about awe, like a lot of people don't get to
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: talk about their feelings and express their feelings. Like a
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: lot of people like just naturally have to keep it
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: suppressed because they don't have an outlet to be able
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: to speak or anybody that'll listen to him. I have
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: millions of people that listen to me, you know what
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: I mean. So it's like that's like a blessing. So
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: just being able to make that music and see like
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: where it coincigns with people and like who relates to
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: people walking up to me? Like just even this weekend
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: being a complex called, so many people walked up.
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: To me, like I do, walk up to me like, bro,
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: you got me do part times and that's beautiful.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: And I'm not like ride Wave or nothing.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: So it's like, you know what I'm saying, I don't
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: make the same type of music he make, but just
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: knowing that my art can get somebody through, they can
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: can help somebody the same thing is doing for me,
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: it is doing for somebody else. So h yeah, that's
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: like dope. And then performing it. The best part about
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: performing it is seeing that they know it.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like seeing them sing your lyrics kay.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Word for word. That's like the most warming experience. I'll
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: get caught looking at people singing oh for real.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I didn't like sometimes I gotta wear glasses
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: because like I'll be too into it, Like I'm like, yeah,
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: like I would like I'm a concert goer like I
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: love music, like I seen music like Hello out all
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: day in the house and.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Stuff like that. So it's like I'll be when I'm
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: locked in with you. I'm locked in with you, you know
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: So your last ep was make the West grade again,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: make the.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: West grade again. It made the worst grade again.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: So, uh, you are one of the top LA artists
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: out right. Now, what are your like big plans? What
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: can people expect from you? And what else would you
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: like to accomplish too.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna going to extraordinary run like this next run
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: that I'm about to go on, me dropping new music
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: and just getting into my artistry and typing into my
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: talents more.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I think I'm a little bit more comfortable.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Like I'm the type of person that i'd be scared
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: to move forward cause, uh, I'm scared to fail.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, you don't even seem like that.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'll be like really like I'm really planning, planning, planning,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: planning and planning, Like I'm really be scared to be
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: judged little key sometimes.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: So like I'll just like suppress how hard I'm going,
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: Like i won't do certain things. I'll sit back and
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: wait to do things until things get bigger. I feel
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: like right now I'm in like such a comfortable space
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: where like I feel like I've grown out of that,
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: like I don't really have any fears anymore.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: As an artist.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Is just like fucking I'm gonna go hard and if
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: they you know, they gonna like it or they not.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: And me just getting back comfortable. I think it all
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: started with me, Like I started doing these freestyles every Friday.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: That's something that I would just be doing and I
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: just never posted it.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: You know. Now now I'm posting them. I'm just taking
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: my career like a lot more serious, you know what
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I like that for you, and I could tell you
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: whatever you do you put even by the way you
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: cook this Broke dish. Thank you, it's really phenomenal.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Broke.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Very impressed with everything, Very impressed. Thank you for coming
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: on the show, Thanks for having Where can everybody keep
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: up with you and everything you have going on?
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: And what projects can we expect coming out.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: Following me everywhere at K A L A N dot
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: f R f R killing for real, for real on everything.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: No heart feelings on the way.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: No heart feelings on the way, No heart feelings on
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the way.
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: Thanks guys, peace out.
• 38:58
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