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EYL #214 Irv Gotti on Selling his Masters for $300 Million, Tales, J Prince, & Ownership · Earn Your Leisure

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Speaker 4: With XIT and with JAY, I'm sitting there looking and
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Speaker 4: I'm like, Yo, these niggas just made like four hundred
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Speaker 4: million this year just with my niggas the label.
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Speaker 5: They made like four hundred. Damn, what was your salary?
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Speaker 4: Sixty K the dumb niggas. This dumb nigga ain't gonna
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Speaker 4: be dumb too.
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Speaker 7: All right, guys, welcome back e y l. We're on
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Speaker 7: the West coast. Yeah, this is gonna be something that's
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Speaker 7: gonna be a very exciting legendary situation, something I actually
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Speaker 7: been looking forward to for a while. So first I
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Speaker 7: got a shout out his brother, but my brother, well,
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Speaker 7: Chris legend.
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Speaker 5: I met Chris.
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Speaker 7: Everybody knows the story, and ever since we met, we
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Speaker 7: always tapped in and Chris one of the best storytellers
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Speaker 7: of all time.
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Speaker 5: Crazy.
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Speaker 7: I told Angie that, and she was like, Earth is
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Speaker 7: a better story teller than Chris.
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Speaker 5: That's the first thing she said.
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Speaker 7: Hearth stories because he's way like his stories that immaculate.
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Speaker 7: So irv Gotti really needs no introduction, but pioneer in
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Speaker 7: the space. But somebody who's been able to reinvent himself.
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Speaker 7: I don't think it gets enough credit for that. So
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Speaker 7: obviously one of the biggest musical music moguls Murder Inc.
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Speaker 7: And then actually transitioned to the media side with Tales
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Speaker 7: killing the game TV and recently changed the game again
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Speaker 7: when he sold his Masters for one hundred million. So
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Speaker 7: there's actually a lot to talk about because that Masters
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Speaker 7: conversation is really really exciting prevalent. A lot of people
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Speaker 7: have different takes on it. I think Future just sold
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Speaker 7: this Master, keep it.
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Speaker 8: Away, Lil Wayne did it, Future, John Legend has done
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Speaker 8: the Future. You got like sixty seven, but justin, justin
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Speaker 8: Timberlake did it?
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Speaker 5: Timberlake.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we keep seeing it, but it's like, what does
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Speaker 9: it really mean?
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Speaker 5: Like details and all that, you know what it means.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think like when people saw it, like they
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Speaker 8: saw Timberlake do it, and obviously they saw Wayne he
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Speaker 8: got a bag, so that we know that, people are
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Speaker 8: just like, wait, huh, why they doing it?
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Speaker 7: So it's discussing the bag because that's it. You're gonna
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Speaker 7: have a dough conversation. But first and foremo, thank you
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Speaker 7: for joining us, appreciate.
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Speaker 4: It, happy to be here. You guys is Jesus and Moses.
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Speaker 7: That's what they say right on the street, the street,
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Speaker 7: Jesus and Moses on the street. Man. So let's lie,
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Speaker 7: let's start. I want to start with this. We might
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Speaker 7: well start with this one hundred million dollars for selling
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Speaker 7: your masters, right, Yeah, so walk us through that process
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Speaker 7: because you told it to us when we first met.
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Speaker 7: Is an interesting story. How to I even came about
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Speaker 7: because I wasn't on your radar. No, so talk about
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Speaker 7: how that was even on your radar, Well, it was.
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Speaker 5: On my radar.
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Speaker 4: Was making the film and I needed five million dollars
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Speaker 4: to make a film. So I wanted to raise the
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Speaker 4: money because the people I was asking that I thought
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Speaker 4: would just loan me to five million, was asking.
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Speaker 5: For fifty percent of my.
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Speaker 9: Real friends for five million friends.
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Speaker 4: I'm telling them this is going to be a multi
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Speaker 4: billion dollar company. They give me five million, they want
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Speaker 4: fifty percent. I was like, I'm not getting jerked, right.
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Speaker 4: So people told me, they said, oh, if you got
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Speaker 4: the money, just use your mass as is leverage. So
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Speaker 4: that's what I did. I did a deal with this
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Speaker 4: company called Sound Royalties, and they gave me five million dollars.
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Speaker 4: I had to give them a big interest rate. I
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Speaker 4: had to pay him back like six million.
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Speaker 7: Six million for five million. Yeah, it's like a loan shark.
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Speaker 7: The shot lock rates definitely. Uh.
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Speaker 4: But I didn't care because I had a situation set
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Speaker 4: up with Paramount and boy Backage that I felt very
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Speaker 4: strong that if I made the movie for five I
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Speaker 4: would get back seven to ten. So if you know me,
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Speaker 4: once I want to do something, I'm doing it right.
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Speaker 4: There's no looking back. I got a tunnel vision. I
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Speaker 4: don't give a fuck. I'm going so basically, when I
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Speaker 4: did that, the word got out that I'm doing shit
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Speaker 4: with my masters. Zach Harrwitz a great friend of mine.
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Speaker 4: He was the COO of the Universal Music Group, and
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Speaker 4: he called me and he's like, erv you you want
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Speaker 4: to sell your masters. I said, well, I borrowed money
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Speaker 4: against it. I ain't selling them. He said, but what
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Speaker 4: do you want it? I said, well, if the price
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Speaker 4: is right, I said, I want to make TV and
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Speaker 4: film and I want to own it. I want to
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Speaker 4: have the money to pay for what to own it.
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Speaker 4: He said, this is this guy, Olivier Chastin. He pays
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Speaker 4: the most for masters, and he plugged me with him.
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Speaker 4: As soon as I'm at Olivier, it was like a
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Speaker 4: love fest, and he gave me a like twenty seven X.
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Speaker 4: He gave me a big multiple for my masters. So
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Speaker 4: I took the deal and took the money right then.
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Speaker 4: Where he got his money from or the company that
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Speaker 4: he's partnered with is this company called Pimco, Pimco Giant
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Speaker 4: Financial Giant. So he put me on to Ben Frishman.
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Speaker 4: So we're sitting there at a meeting. You know, they
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Speaker 4: buying my masters. So Ben was like, so, why are
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Speaker 4: you selling your masters? If you might if, he said,
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Speaker 4: if I could ask you, And I said, well, I'm
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Speaker 4: selling my past to ignite my future. I said, I
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Speaker 4: want to pay for my own TV series, pay for
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Speaker 4: my own films, so I could own it one hundred
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Speaker 4: percent and build that catalog up, just how I built
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Speaker 4: my music catalog. He said, well, I'll give you two
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Speaker 4: hundred million, because to which I'm like, you know, coming
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Speaker 4: from where I come from, the nigga say you're giving
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Speaker 4: you two hundred million. So my immediately response was like,
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Speaker 4: so what you want like fifty percent of my company?
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Speaker 5: Oh, eighty percent?
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Speaker 4: He's like, nah, I don't want nothing, said, I just
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Speaker 4: want whatever money that you borrow from me, pay me
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Speaker 4: back eight percent.
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Speaker 5: I said, that's it, that's it. I couldn't believe it.
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Speaker 4: Man was offered me a two hundred million line of
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Speaker 4: credit and didn't want a percentage in my company, so
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Speaker 4: he said, you know, you don't have to spend that hundred.
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Speaker 5: For your mask.
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Speaker 4: He's like, we'll give you the money to make your product.
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Speaker 4: I said, cool. So you know, it's really a dope
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Speaker 4: story because it's a story of.
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Speaker 5: I really it fell in my lap.
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Speaker 7: The story, I mean, the way you tell it, and
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Speaker 7: like I said when we first met, you, actually, you know,
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Speaker 7: give us a breath to it.
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Speaker 8: But if it feels like this is how's this even happen?
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Speaker 8: And how unbelievable is this? Can you talk about the
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Speaker 8: contrast and to the industry that you came from, where
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Speaker 8: deals weren't structured like that?
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Speaker 5: Oh no, just trying to like sick vanity where I
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Speaker 5: came from.
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Speaker 4: If a nigga offered me two hundred million, he probably
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Speaker 4: wanted ninety nine percent of my company, you know what
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Speaker 4: I'm saying. And it's like, so the whole process of
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Speaker 4: what happened, I gotta give it up to God, and
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Speaker 4: God just blessed me because I can't explain it.
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Speaker 5: So let's break this down a little bit.
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Speaker 7: Because you said a twenty seven x multiple, So this
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Speaker 7: is important people to understand because a lot of times
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Speaker 7: people aren't fully educated, so they're like, yo, they're looking
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Speaker 7: at music, like, don't sell your music because you're not
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Speaker 7: going to have a legacy for your children. But when
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Speaker 7: we were in London, DJ he explained it to us.
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Speaker 7: I never really thought about it like this. He was like,
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Speaker 7: it's like a startup company. Like when Elon Musk sells
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Speaker 7: PayPal for two hundred million. Nobody criticized him for doing
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Speaker 7: that because he used that money to fund SpaceX and
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Speaker 7: Tesla and now he's the richest person in the world.
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Speaker 7: He's about to be a trillionaire. So he was like,
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Speaker 7: you could look at up music catalog just like that.
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Speaker 7: It's like you're selling a company for it's a liquidation event.
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Speaker 7: You get a lump sum of money as opposed to
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Speaker 7: getting residual amount of money.
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Speaker 5: And now that lumps do you.
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Speaker 4: Take that one hundred or do you take four million
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Speaker 4: a year for thirty years?
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Speaker 7: It's like a lottery exactly. Yeah, which money you take
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Speaker 7: the kids to have?
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Speaker 5: And is the thing?
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Speaker 4: If I'm retiring, maybe the four million is good, But
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Speaker 4: I'm not retiring. In my mind, I got other things
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Speaker 4: that I'm trying to do where I could use that hundred.
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Speaker 4: But look, doing that deal for the hundred, it bounced
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Speaker 4: into the two hundred, and then so the.
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Speaker 7: Two hundred, that's a lot of so the same company.
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Speaker 7: The hundred is upfront, they gave it to you. That's
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Speaker 7: money in the bank. The two hundred is a lot
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Speaker 7: of credit. Essentially, it's like a credit card.
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Speaker 5: I ain't got to use my hundred.
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Speaker 7: When you use the two hundred, as long as you
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Speaker 7: get it.
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Speaker 4: I just when I said, I told your tails Latin,
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Speaker 4: so Olivia is like, he's like, how much is it
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Speaker 4: gonna be? As a maybe two million in that twenty million,
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Speaker 4: He's gonna give it to me, and that'll be part
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Speaker 4: of probably the line of credit twenty million, which I
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Speaker 4: got to give him back eight percent. Let's start because
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Speaker 4: once I make it, I'm gonna sell it for more
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Speaker 4: to a streamers company.
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Speaker 5: And then but I own it now, I own it.
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Speaker 8: So you said two million in episodes, So I'm sure
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Speaker 8: there's a lot of people that are in start up
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Speaker 8: and trying to get into two TV and film.
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Speaker 5: It's not like music.
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Speaker 9: It's not definitely not like music.
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Speaker 8: What are some of these expenses or these line items,
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Speaker 8: these large ones that go into a production like that.
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Speaker 8: So you said two million per episode, said twenty minutes.
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Speaker 8: I'm assuming that's ten episodes for the season. What goes
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Speaker 8: into that is it obviously cast crew quickly.
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Speaker 4: Got above the line numbers and you got below the line.
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Speaker 4: Above the line is like the actors and actresses because
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Speaker 4: you don't know how much they're gonna cost. The belowder
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Speaker 4: line is like set numbers. How much is that camera costs?
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Speaker 4: And how much is that operated courses and it's gonna
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Speaker 4: operate it? How many cameras you're gonna need different things
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Speaker 4: like that? How much is this justlike these is this's
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Speaker 4: a belowder line cost? Right, And that's how you make
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Speaker 4: up a budget of how much each episode is going
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Speaker 4: to be. And you're you're exactly and if you're union,
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Speaker 4: if you're non union, right, if you going union, that
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Speaker 4: camera operator has a set price.
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Speaker 5: If you're non union, you could negotiate a deal.
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Speaker 9: Then the hours of when they can work and when
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Speaker 9: they can't work the break.
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Speaker 4: How many hours and it's overtime, they're not working Saturdays
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Speaker 4: and Sundays. You know what I'm saying. It's like it's
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Speaker 4: like different shit. I know all that shit now though.
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Speaker 4: And then like, I know, I know everything.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I heard you in the conversation last
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Speaker 8: week and you were telling this young filmmaker like I
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Speaker 8: think he said something very key to you.
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Speaker 9: He was like, yeah, I own my own equipment, and you're.
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Speaker 8: Like that's good. When you walked away, like I like him.
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Speaker 8: You talk about like the ownership of having the equipment.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because if you own it and you have the equipment,
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Speaker 4: you could finagle with the lines. You could fenagle with
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Speaker 4: the budget. You could do it for lower because it's
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Speaker 4: your ship. So instead of thousand dollars for this camera
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Speaker 4: five hundred, it's sures you own it, so you could
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Speaker 4: finagle with the numbers.
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Speaker 7: So you told my son your masters. You didn't sell
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Speaker 7: the Web three, No, I just sold my masters. Like
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Speaker 7: the branding, the likeness, murdering, the logo. It's another check coming.
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Speaker 7: So you can still make money, unless you said you
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Speaker 7: can still make money.
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Speaker 4: You know, death ro Snoop doesn't own the music, he
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Speaker 4: owns the logo, he owns the likeness. And they said
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Speaker 4: he's scored like a forty or forty five million dollar
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Speaker 4: deal with NFT's or Web three or something. I don't
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Speaker 4: even know that I don't know about Web three nfds nothing.
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Speaker 4: What I do know is money today, so we get it.
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Speaker 4: So when I secured the deal, I got the money
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Speaker 4: for the Masters. When man Walter he left open all
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Speaker 4: of that Web three shit, which I'm gonna get another check.
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Speaker 7: No, it's important because it's like I look at it
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Speaker 7: as an opportunity, like you said, to get a lump
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Speaker 7: sum of money, and now if you have a plan,
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Speaker 7: that's gonna accelerate your plan as opposed to trying to
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Speaker 7: borrow money and put pieces together.
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Speaker 4: Now you got I mean the goal my ultimate goal
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Speaker 4: now is with the money that I've attained with the
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Speaker 4: two hundred million line of credit, is to produce films, TV, soundtracks, music.
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Speaker 4: So just think if I got one hundred million for
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Speaker 4: some shit I made twenty years ago. So if I
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Speaker 4: got one hundred episodes of television, ten films, maybe another
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Speaker 4: ten albums, shit, music is this? This is the smallest
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Speaker 4: form of the entertaining business. TV in films is way bigger.
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Speaker 4: So that's why I said, if I have one hundred
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Speaker 4: episodes of television, thing, I'm a multi billion dollar company.
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Speaker 9: Is music still a passion of your I mean, obviously
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Speaker 9: that's it's.
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Speaker 5: All a lot.
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Speaker 4: I love all of it, TV, film, music. I enjoy
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Speaker 4: entertaining people, and I feel I'm good at it, and
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Speaker 4: I was a great music maker. Okay, if you're a
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Speaker 4: great music maker, I have to decide what beat is
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Speaker 4: gonna move to people, what are they gonna like, what
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Speaker 4: script then characters and things is very similar.
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Speaker 7: So you said something to us. She was like, you
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Speaker 7: can't sell what you don't own. And somebody told.
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Speaker 10: You that about Mark Lazar the BT situation, right, Mark
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Speaker 10: laswy he owns the Milwaukee Bucks.
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Speaker 4: He is Avenue Capital, very close friend of mine. He's
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Speaker 4: probably worth like ten billion, who knows, maybe more. But
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Speaker 4: you know, I was at his house shooting the shit,
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Speaker 4: just shooting the shit, and I was bragging about myself.
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Speaker 4: I direct, I produce, I write, I could do it all.
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Speaker 4: I'm a one man recond crew. I'm Spielberg, Katzenberg and
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Speaker 4: Geffing and rolling the one.
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Speaker 5: And he's nice.
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Speaker 4: And then he was like, you said everything with the
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Speaker 4: right thing, and he stopped me and I was like,
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Speaker 4: what he said, who owns it? And I was like, well,
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Speaker 4: BT owns the majority of the shit that I make.
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Speaker 4: He said, well, there you have it. He said, you
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Speaker 4: can't sell what you don't own, and then he just
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Speaker 4: kept drilling it. You know, you can't sell what you
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Speaker 4: don't know. You know, you can't sell what you don't know.
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Speaker 4: He kept saying it to me, and he changed me.
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Speaker 4: He changed me, and that's what got me on my
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Speaker 4: ownership vibe times ten.
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Speaker 7: So now going forward with Tails, you're gonna own Tails
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Speaker 7: or so.
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Speaker 4: I owned the first season, BT owns the second and third.
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Speaker 4: But moving forward, I wanted to be a licensing deal.
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Speaker 7: So it'll BT will distributed, but you'll own it. BT
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Speaker 7: A license it and they'll profit off of it for
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Speaker 7: say five years. But then the reverse back to me.
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Speaker 8: How does that work from domestic to an international play?
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Speaker 8: Because I know bt obys is trying to.
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Speaker 4: Scale depends I own, I own it internationally, I owned worldwide.
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Speaker 5: Perfect. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: You could strike deals, but nah, I'm own my shit everywhere. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: And it's just he's right, you can't sell what you
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Speaker 4: don't own. So yeah, you could make millions of dollars.
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Speaker 4: I make millions of dollars producing, directing, writing, being the
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Speaker 4: production company.
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Speaker 5: But the ownership check is a different check.
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Speaker 4: Is like, you can make millions of dollars or you
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Speaker 4: can make hundreds of millions, if not billions.
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Speaker 8: How does that work with I mean, obviously Tales, there's
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Speaker 8: a writer for it. I'm sure you're probably involved in
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Speaker 8: every Friends Friend the Friends you know, Netflix paid three
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Speaker 8: hundred million of license it for ten years. That explains
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Speaker 8: it to you.
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Speaker 4: Whoever owns Friends got three hundred three.
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Speaker 5: Hundred million for a ten year license fee for one show.
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Speaker 7: That's what you were talking to Steve Harvey, and that's
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Speaker 7: what he was saying about Family Few, you know, on
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Speaker 7: the own Family Few. But he did have an opportunity
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Speaker 7: to own Family Food.
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Speaker 8: In Africa exactly. He did it and now he's doing
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Speaker 8: it with his Judge show. Put his complete ownership in
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Speaker 8: that too.
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Speaker 5: He's owning it. Yeah, and not here. Steve is a
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Speaker 5: rich guy.
20:06
Speaker 4: So even with our ownership, I probably put Steve on
20:08
Speaker 4: he was probably making anywhere like suing the neighborhood fifty
20:12
Speaker 4: million a year, but he wasn't. He's probably looking at
20:15
Speaker 4: what the owners is making and like, damn, so, yeah,
20:19
Speaker 4: I'm getting rich, but these niggas is.
20:24
Speaker 5: Definitely these niggas billionaires.
20:28
Speaker 7: Yeah, the master is that was murder Ankle. That was
20:30
Speaker 7: like those Jalo records and all that too.
20:32
Speaker 4: You know, the Jalo records is part of my masters.
20:35
Speaker 4: You have the masters for that.
20:36
Speaker 8: Yeah, did you own one hundred percent of your masters
20:39
Speaker 8: or was it like fifty fifty deals with Universal?
20:43
Speaker 4: And again, when I did that, that was just because
20:45
Speaker 4: everyone was doing it.
20:47
Speaker 5: It's not like I even knew what the.
20:49
Speaker 7: Fuck I was doing when we spoke to When we
20:51
Speaker 7: spoke to Chris, it was a long time ago. So
20:53
Speaker 7: if you can refresh this, he said, when y'all was
20:55
Speaker 7: going to trial, Universal, they did something where they try
20:59
Speaker 7: to take the masters away.
21:00
Speaker 5: No, they terminated us, so they cut tides.
21:09
Speaker 7: But they never offered you money for the master. They
21:13
Speaker 7: offer you money, like a little bit amount of money
21:15
Speaker 7: for bullshit.
21:16
Speaker 4: They have like five hundred thousand, and I was like no,
21:22
Speaker 4: So they was like, all right, moving forward, you own
21:27
Speaker 4: your fifty and we on our fifty. They offered me
21:30
Speaker 4: five hundred thousand for.
21:33
Speaker 7: The whole catalog because they figured you was in trouble.
21:36
Speaker 4: Now, when I spoke to Zach about this, Zach was like,
21:39
Speaker 4: we wasn't jerking you, and I was like, explain.
21:43
Speaker 5: He said, it was no streaming.
21:46
Speaker 4: He said, so basically a catalog is based off of
21:49
Speaker 4: CD sales, and he says.
21:52
Speaker 5: It was a way different metric.
21:57
Speaker 9: You understand, it was like two thousand and seven.
22:01
Speaker 5: If it's basing it off of just see these sales.
22:05
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm making a hundred thousand dollars two hundred thousand
22:09
Speaker 4: dollars a yeah.
22:11
Speaker 7: And streaming change everything, streaming and I'm making millions.
22:17
Speaker 5: So he was like, we didn't jerk you. It was
22:19
Speaker 5: just what we was making. Yeah.
22:25
Speaker 8: I mean, so from from the standpoint of the masters
22:29
Speaker 8: in the space of music, and now turn it into
22:32
Speaker 8: the catalog for Tales.
22:34
Speaker 9: Were the other things that you're going to add to it?
22:36
Speaker 5: Right?
22:36
Speaker 8: We talked about going to Tales sales is the franchise, Yeah,
22:39
Speaker 8: it's TV. Yeah, films, w these films will be a soundtrack.
22:46
Speaker 8: So you add the music new artists trying to break
22:49
Speaker 8: new artists. I know how to do it.
22:52
Speaker 5: We've seen that. Yeah, I know how to do it.
22:54
Speaker 8: From a standpoint of Tales. This is I mean, obviously
22:56
Speaker 8: I was trying to get to this earlier. You obviously
22:58
Speaker 8: evolved in the writing process, but how how evolved at
23:01
Speaker 8: the artists? Because I know each episode is based upon
23:04
Speaker 8: a song. Are they involved or it's just we're just
23:06
Speaker 8: taking using the title for the song and create content.
23:08
Speaker 5: They're not involved. Me and my writers have a idea.
23:13
Speaker 10: I mean, we make it okay, but you have to
23:16
Speaker 10: pay the artists, all right, So favored Nation costs every
23:22
Speaker 10: artist when we use this song for an episode.
23:26
Speaker 5: Everyone gets the same. So it's not like someone couldn't negotiate.
23:30
Speaker 4: It's favor nations is what it's called most favoring nations.
23:35
Speaker 5: That means everyone gets X amount. That's the same.
23:38
Speaker 4: Everyone gets the same, and it's a good fee. Ain't
23:42
Speaker 4: no boys your fee. The songs that I choose for
23:46
Speaker 4: the episodes they get they get a DC check.
23:49
Speaker 5: But it's no negotiating, is what I'm saying. It is
23:53
Speaker 5: what it is. This is what you're getting favor nations.
23:56
Speaker 4: But that makes it better, So no one's they everyone
23:59
Speaker 4: gets the same.
24:00
Speaker 9: There's any been a time where artists is like, nah,
24:02
Speaker 9: we're good.
24:03
Speaker 5: I've never got turned down yet. Okay, I'm not gonna work.
24:07
Speaker 4: I never got turned down from when I did Lauren
24:10
Speaker 4: Hill X factor. That's what I thought because Lauren, but
24:13
Speaker 4: Lauren I have a phenomenal relationship with it.
24:16
Speaker 8: She approved it. She approved because I was thinking, like,
24:20
Speaker 8: I got a story to tell. I mean, Biggie, that'suff
24:23
Speaker 8: ain't gonna na me.
24:24
Speaker 9: I mean, I just just thought it was a great idea.
24:26
Speaker 8: I mean, the concept of Tales is just a great
24:28
Speaker 8: idea because a lot of times that I had, especially
24:29
Speaker 8: as fans of the music, we hear songs on an
24:32
Speaker 8: album and we're like, yo, there should be a video
24:33
Speaker 8: for this. This is a story that should be captured
24:36
Speaker 8: in the video. Move a movie around there. But that's
24:38
Speaker 8: what Tales has become. It's like now it's like, oh
24:40
Speaker 8: it's a one now movie. That three minute song has
24:42
Speaker 8: now turned into expanded content.
24:44
Speaker 5: We get to really dive in. Yeah, yeah, story to tell.
24:50
Speaker 4: But Biggie was one of the original songs. That's you know,
24:54
Speaker 4: because it's so d vivid and graphic. How could it
24:59
Speaker 4: tailor made perfect? Slick wrecked children's story?
25:04
Speaker 5: Did you do? I gave you?
25:05
Speaker 11: I gave yeps, Renee Nay Going Damien.
25:12
Speaker 5: Was thing d m X.
25:16
Speaker 4: But I want to turn that into a movie, a
25:18
Speaker 4: real movie about a rapper who sells the soul to
25:21
Speaker 4: the devil.
25:22
Speaker 5: That's like that Snoop Dogg song.
25:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, I talked to Actually, my brother hooked me up.
25:31
Speaker 4: I actually spoke to Matthew mcconnae and he was he's
25:34
Speaker 4: interested to play the devil.
25:40
Speaker 7: He did that movie. That was that law movie where
25:42
Speaker 7: he uh the law firm that he was working at.
25:46
Speaker 5: Nah, that's devil's advocate he was.
25:48
Speaker 7: He wasn't a devil's advocate. I want to ask you
25:55
Speaker 7: some if he can't go back in time. Whatever happened
25:57
Speaker 7: with that situation with j Princeton Shug when y'all trying
26:00
Speaker 7: to start the distribution but he wasn't a distribution Okay,
26:03
Speaker 7: what was it?
26:04
Speaker 4: It was a union now baseball, basketball, football got crazy
26:13
Speaker 4: and honestly it was all Shugs idea and Shug masterminded
26:18
Speaker 4: the whole ship.
26:19
Speaker 5: Sug.
26:22
Speaker 4: It's one of the most brilliant guys that I've learned
26:26
Speaker 4: so much. He schooled me so much with the business
26:29
Speaker 4: and everything. He's just a brilliant guy. But he just
26:32
Speaker 4: enjoyed being a gangster and doing gangster ship. But he's
26:36
Speaker 4: he was brilliant, so met him and Prince. We was
26:42
Speaker 4: sitting down and having meetings and it was funny because
26:45
Speaker 4: we meet at like the Lamitage, this hotel in Beverly Hills,
26:49
Speaker 4: and when people will see this together, they were, well,
26:55
Speaker 4: when I say scared, that was an understatement. He's looking
27:01
Speaker 4: at me, fucking Princeton shewy. It was like, what the fuck, yo?
27:05
Speaker 5: What did they right? But sure came up with the idea.
27:10
Speaker 5: It was a brilliant plan.
27:13
Speaker 4: It's basically like the labels say your recording phone was
27:18
Speaker 4: a million dollars, he said, whatever, the recording fund is
27:21
Speaker 4: ten percent goes to the union. So instead of a million,
27:25
Speaker 4: you would have a million one with one hundred thousand
27:27
Speaker 4: going to the union. Now that said artists would get
27:30
Speaker 4: medical pension, all of the stuff that unions, the benefits
27:36
Speaker 4: that unions do. You can go get your te fixed,
27:38
Speaker 4: now you know what I'm saying.
27:40
Speaker 5: All that.
27:43
Speaker 4: And each time you do a new album ten and
27:48
Speaker 4: it was easy metrics because instead of you recouping a
27:51
Speaker 4: million dollars, you recoop a million one. Right shortly after that,
28:00
Speaker 4: the Feds rated me or whatever, so you know, you
28:03
Speaker 4: could say that they was listening and they wanted to
28:06
Speaker 4: stop it.
28:07
Speaker 5: But it was a brilliant idea.
28:10
Speaker 4: But if I'm speaking one hundred percent truthful, we would
28:14
Speaker 4: have fucked it up.
28:16
Speaker 7: I think all that money, like we were who was
28:20
Speaker 7: we me President show y'all was going to be the
28:23
Speaker 7: custodians of it.
28:23
Speaker 4: We was going to be the owners of this union.
28:25
Speaker 4: He was going to be the custodians whatever you want
28:27
Speaker 4: to call it.
28:30
Speaker 5: And we're roll niggas at the end of the day
28:33
Speaker 5: of the day.
28:34
Speaker 4: So it was crazy because we were sitting there and
28:40
Speaker 4: it was gonna be some getting damn or later down ship.
28:43
Speaker 7: Oh you like that, Oh, because you couldn't opt out
28:45
Speaker 7: artists if.
28:46
Speaker 5: It wasn't joining the union on outside, it was going to.
28:49
Speaker 4: Be a problem at your shows at whatever for showing
28:53
Speaker 4: up favors. It was going to be some ship like
28:57
Speaker 4: it was going to be some ship like that. But
28:59
Speaker 4: the funny thing is like I was like, all right,
29:02
Speaker 4: I got the East Coast, so I got the East Coast,
29:06
Speaker 4: Sugars like, I got the West Coast. My nigga, my
29:10
Speaker 4: brother prince, see, I got anywhere else, he said, I
29:16
Speaker 4: got everywhere else. Little nigga strong was strong.
29:24
Speaker 5: But I just know it would have it probably.
29:31
Speaker 4: I feel artist would have would have been like, yeah,
29:33
Speaker 4: fuck it, they'll get down because it's benefiting you.
29:36
Speaker 7: It's just, you know, it's crazy because we had this
29:38
Speaker 7: conversation with Dunky Fresher Randon, Dunky Fresh, and he was saying,
29:42
Speaker 7: one of the hip hop part and this all mention
29:43
Speaker 7: his name is happening a lot of health issues, and
29:45
Speaker 7: he was saying that, you know, he really wants to
29:47
Speaker 7: put together a union because he was like a lot
29:49
Speaker 7: of the pioneers like his generation are even older, are
29:52
Speaker 7: really struggling.
29:53
Speaker 4: But we wasn't just doing hip hop. He was doing
29:57
Speaker 4: the music business. So Taylor Swift, who her own budget
30:01
Speaker 4: was probably fifteen million, that's one point five.
30:05
Speaker 9: And you're showing up as shows.
30:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, ship ain't no one above. Justin Bieber, it was
30:11
Speaker 4: above to shake down. Very important.
30:13
Speaker 7: But you know, I mean, what is that but a
30:16
Speaker 7: shade is not actually betterfect. It's my business physiness.
30:20
Speaker 4: When you look at you to see half a half yea,
30:25
Speaker 4: when you look at half a with the unions, that's
30:27
Speaker 4: how Vegas was when yeah it got a little violent.
30:32
Speaker 5: Very violent. It was a little get down and lay
30:36
Speaker 5: down type of activity.
30:38
Speaker 8: It helps, it's for the greater goods, for the greater goods,
30:40
Speaker 8: for the greater good.
30:41
Speaker 5: And that's what we were saying.
30:42
Speaker 4: What we were saying to all the artists is like, yo,
30:47
Speaker 4: you have a pension, so when you ain't making these
30:50
Speaker 4: hit records, you're gonna have a little trickle.
30:53
Speaker 7: But what I could see, I could I couldn't exist
30:55
Speaker 7: stuff like I mean, I think I said that right.
30:57
Speaker 9: No, you know, damn playing, I can't eat off one hundred.
30:59
Speaker 7: I think a younger artist, especially now, you ain't balling
31:03
Speaker 7: like she was, like, maybe you don't have five cars,
31:06
Speaker 7: but you.
31:06
Speaker 5: Still got one. You know what I'm saying.
31:09
Speaker 4: So of course when you're making the music, you ain't
31:12
Speaker 4: balling like that. But damn, nigga, if you got something
31:16
Speaker 4: coming in and trickling in, I think that's a good thing.
31:19
Speaker 7: It makes a lot of sense.
31:20
Speaker 4: It's just go get de fixed, nigga. You can go
31:23
Speaker 4: if if your kids you gotta go see a doctor.
31:28
Speaker 5: I think the younger artists might have issue. That's what
31:31
Speaker 5: we're at right now, Like so they.
31:32
Speaker 7: Feel like they don't have the same respect even they
31:34
Speaker 7: look at it like I'm paying for older people and
31:37
Speaker 7: they don't have reverence for them.
31:39
Speaker 9: But they're doing it now with Social Security.
31:41
Speaker 5: But they don't They're not educated, they don't know.
31:43
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying, Like, you're already doing already doing
31:45
Speaker 7: it with the government.
31:47
Speaker 9: You're already doing the Social Security, you're paying for the
31:48
Speaker 9: older generation.
31:49
Speaker 5: I think it would be a good would everybody. I
31:51
Speaker 5: think it should happen.
31:52
Speaker 7: Anybody who's intelligent enough to understand that knows that. But
31:55
Speaker 7: everybody's not intelligent.
31:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's overall, if you look at it,
31:59
Speaker 4: it'll be a good thing.
32:01
Speaker 5: So yeah, well Sugar's in prison. Well not.
32:08
Speaker 7: Generally, because like I said, someone could be first.
32:10
Speaker 4: I think someone could put it together, but it'll take
32:14
Speaker 4: Like but Sugar was like he was getting the nigga
32:16
Speaker 4: that did the Baseball Union. He was going to have
32:20
Speaker 4: like reputable people like because he knew, like if it's
32:24
Speaker 4: just us some nigga shit, so he was getting he
32:28
Speaker 4: was bringing in real people. And then it just you know,
32:32
Speaker 4: the fans got on me. I think you know, he
32:35
Speaker 4: went to jail. It just it just didn't pan out,
32:40
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But I could tell you
32:42
Speaker 4: this for a fact, Sugar is a He's brilliant, good dude.
32:47
Speaker 4: He's a great dude to me. Everyone, everyone has their
32:52
Speaker 4: own opinion interactions with us. So I'm quite sure there's
32:57
Speaker 4: a gang of people that hate him and think he's
32:59
Speaker 4: the devil, you know what I'm saying.
33:02
Speaker 12: Not me.
33:04
Speaker 5: I think he's.
33:04
Speaker 4: A a good dude With me, He's been nothing but
33:09
Speaker 4: a great dude. And if you want to talk about smart,
33:13
Speaker 4: you in circles around ninety percent of these motherfuckers out here, Yeah,
33:18
Speaker 4: I think something about you, like he's really really smart,
33:21
Speaker 4: y'all really smart and knows this business, how to get paid,
33:28
Speaker 4: where to get he knows all of it.
33:31
Speaker 8: I feel like people look at you the same way,
33:33
Speaker 8: and we look just obviously from this pretty smart. This
33:36
Speaker 8: is what I'm saying. But also I think what to
33:38
Speaker 8: your credit is something that you said to us. It's
33:40
Speaker 8: like you are not bashful about knowing that you didn't
33:44
Speaker 8: though there's so much that you didn't.
33:47
Speaker 4: When I say fast learner, right, super fast learning, I'm
33:52
Speaker 4: a sponge, so I'll know, Like if I'm in a
33:54
Speaker 4: room and I know, like I'm not the smartest nigga
33:57
Speaker 4: in this room or whatever, but give me a for
34:00
Speaker 4: so I'm smart snis from now.
34:04
Speaker 8: Yeah, that sill. Has that been the approach from day one?
34:07
Speaker 8: Because I remember the conversation were like, y'all want my masters?
34:10
Speaker 8: I want my masters, and then like you're like, wait,
34:12
Speaker 8: what does it even mean to have your masters? How
34:14
Speaker 8: many times has that been happening throughout your career?
34:17
Speaker 4: Like like I said, when I negotiate the fifty to
34:21
Speaker 4: fifty joint venture, really it was because I was hearing
34:24
Speaker 4: Shug say this shit and other counterparts say this shit.
34:29
Speaker 9: So that must be the standard.
34:31
Speaker 5: Right, So did I know?
34:33
Speaker 13: No?
34:34
Speaker 5: But I figured it out.
34:37
Speaker 4: That's niggas though that right, we're the most lemits to
34:42
Speaker 4: lemonade motherfuckers in the history of people. We're gonna figure
34:46
Speaker 4: the shit out or whatever. And that's basically me. I'm
34:52
Speaker 4: gonna figure the shit out, y'all niggas.
34:55
Speaker 5: I don't know that.
34:56
Speaker 4: Okay, everyone's talking masters. I need to own masters. Fifty
35:01
Speaker 4: to fifty venture?
35:03
Speaker 5: All right? Did I really really? No? No? I know now.
35:11
Speaker 7: I'm sure when you saw the master is the publishing
35:13
Speaker 7: you saw the publishing too, that's part of it.
35:15
Speaker 5: No, you could I could have did just the masters.
35:19
Speaker 5: Did you do the publishing? Also did the publishing and
35:23
Speaker 5: did the producer royalties take it like it even the
35:29
Speaker 5: biggest check ticket.
35:31
Speaker 4: But that's that's because also I knew I was coming
35:36
Speaker 4: with no ship.
35:39
Speaker 9: Yeah, so you got the obviously tales.
35:41
Speaker 8: But let's talk about that documentaries because I mean, obviously
35:44
Speaker 8: we've seen some of the work already. The Murder indocumentary incredible,
35:48
Speaker 8: but the movie, let's talk about that.
35:50
Speaker 4: I have a slate of documentaries that's insane and it's
35:55
Speaker 4: all because of the fifty year anniversary of.
35:57
Speaker 5: Hip Hopes next year. Yes, yes, so.
36:00
Speaker 4: One of the docs that I want to do is
36:01
Speaker 4: the story of hip hop from start to present day.
36:05
Speaker 4: That's a lot, Yeah, it's I feel it's like minimum
36:08
Speaker 4: ten one hours. Yeah, because I got to touch on
36:12
Speaker 4: the international, the Latin explosion, so many things to touch on.
36:19
Speaker 5: How will we Howard originated? What was the thought? What
36:24
Speaker 5: was the mind process? The evolution.
36:30
Speaker 4: From Grandmass to Flash and Furious five to groups like
36:33
Speaker 4: that to then run DMC, then fucking every being rock
36:38
Speaker 4: him in public Enemy and so I want to touch
36:42
Speaker 4: on it all and do it's justice and making an
36:45
Speaker 4: award winning doc.
36:46
Speaker 8: It's going to happen as long as you don't say
36:48
Speaker 8: hip hop sell in Queensbridge. No, I mean Queen's God.
36:54
Speaker 8: You never know what.
36:55
Speaker 4: Speak Queen's God speaking of Queen, well, Queen's God. But
36:58
Speaker 4: you know it started in the Bronx, signed in the Bronx,
37:01
Speaker 4: but Queen's damn sure we elevated it.
37:06
Speaker 5: Not sure did it. There was a lot of elevation
37:10
Speaker 5: in the Borough of Queen.
37:14
Speaker 4: I mean when you think about it, right with all
37:16
Speaker 4: they was doing in the Bronx with the groups, Like
37:19
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, nigga, when Sucking Seeds came out, the
37:24
Speaker 4: game changed because them niggas wasn't rapping like that. They
37:28
Speaker 4: wasn't rapping like Grand Master Flash and Furious Five. They
37:34
Speaker 4: wasn't wearing costumes like them niggas. Them niggas from DMC
37:37
Speaker 4: was walking out Lee D's and the T shirt arrest
37:41
Speaker 4: came up before them.
37:42
Speaker 5: They came out before the MC, came out before kids.
37:45
Speaker 9: They're the first global sensation in hip hop.
37:47
Speaker 5: Like that's where ye did they come out? Queens, Parlas Queens.
37:50
Speaker 5: I'm giving them the where? Yeah was that eighty eighty four,
37:55
Speaker 5: eighty three, eighty four crazy?
37:57
Speaker 4: I was like thirteen eighty four, nigga, you gotta understand,
38:01
Speaker 4: Like I'm a DJ, I would cut sucking seas for
38:05
Speaker 4: ten hours because there was no other records. Like in
38:09
Speaker 4: the beginning of hip hop, we had only had like
38:12
Speaker 4: three four records. So if you was a DJ nigga
38:16
Speaker 4: at a partyist certain season's ringing off for at least
38:20
Speaker 4: two hours. Yeah, because you ain't got no other records
38:23
Speaker 4: to play. Whodini benefited from that, Hudini's Dope.
38:28
Speaker 5: But you knows hip.
38:31
Speaker 4: Hop nigga, you want to play hip hop, you're gonna
38:34
Speaker 4: play Houdini had the option at that time. Yeah, all
38:38
Speaker 4: them niggas they benefited. There wasn't no competition. If you
38:41
Speaker 4: want to play hip hopmo d how do you like
38:45
Speaker 4: me now?
38:46
Speaker 5: With the shades, with the fucking shades. It was a
38:51
Speaker 5: good record.
38:52
Speaker 4: But I mean if that record came out with there
38:55
Speaker 4: was fifty other records, it does it ring off?
38:57
Speaker 5: Friends? Friends?
38:59
Speaker 4: Is going to ring off that that beat was thinking
39:04
Speaker 4: the Freaks come out at Night.
39:06
Speaker 5: I don't know that's a decent record friends his.
39:09
Speaker 7: Friends was Friends ring Dogs come out. That's like a
39:12
Speaker 7: Halloween record almost right.
39:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like.
39:14
Speaker 4: If there's fifty records out, when the Freaks come Out
39:17
Speaker 4: at Night comes out. I don't know if it rings
39:19
Speaker 4: off like that, probably not why not right?
39:23
Speaker 9: Yeah, but run globalizes.
39:27
Speaker 5: They changed.
39:28
Speaker 9: That's when people started.
39:29
Speaker 5: Run dmc uh.
39:32
Speaker 4: I'll give Big Daddy Kane and never being rock Him.
39:35
Speaker 4: I'll pay them together. But like rock Him change.
39:40
Speaker 5: Ship rock Him definitely changed. He's a game changer. They say,
39:44
Speaker 5: Cares care Rest is in there. He's in there with
39:47
Speaker 5: rock Him, Daddy King, Oh yeah, okay, you know.
39:50
Speaker 4: And then you of course public enemy from a social stamp.
39:54
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, but Chuck dee Lyrically, I used to be
39:58
Speaker 4: like this nigga gets busy. He's just gets busy on
40:00
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Speaker 9: That's crazy. Yeah, fair black fear of a black planet
40:10
Speaker 9: and then.
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Speaker 4: Come on man that when I first heard that record,
40:17
Speaker 4: I listened to it a thousand times. I was like,
40:19
Speaker 4: how did they make this record? That's what I used
40:23
Speaker 4: to do, to be honest with you, when like Ill
40:25
Speaker 4: Records came out, I was just staying in my house
40:29
Speaker 4: and literally try and figure out why, because I felt
40:36
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Speaker 7: So when did you want to get into being an
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Speaker 7: executi because you was a you was a DJ right
40:46
Speaker 7: and then and then you was actually like a producer, producer,
40:50
Speaker 7: and he was making deals that like you brought DMX
40:54
Speaker 7: to death jam right, Yeah, but you never thought when
40:57
Speaker 7: did you think instead of bringing DMX to death Cham,
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna sign joaou as an artist to murder.
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Speaker 4: Ink Shortly after I brought so then I started getting
41:09
Speaker 4: in again.
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Speaker 5: But did you have too? Yeah?
41:12
Speaker 4: But but when I did DMX and Jay and then
41:15
Speaker 4: the metric, the business of it kicked in.
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Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, you.
41:18
Speaker 4: Know Gerano ain't selling no records like that with X
41:22
Speaker 4: and with Jay. I'm sitting there looking and I'm like, yo,
41:27
Speaker 4: these niggas just made like four hundred million.
41:30
Speaker 5: This year just with my niggas the label. They made
41:35
Speaker 5: like four hundred damn. What was your salary? Sixty k?
41:41
Speaker 4: The dumb niggas, The dumb nigga ain't gonna be dumb too.
41:47
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna be dumb.
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Speaker 9: A niggas made four hundred million, sixty thousand and.
41:51
Speaker 5: He didn't give me a bonus nothing.
41:52
Speaker 7: What was your job title? I was saying on ain't.
41:56
Speaker 4: I quit deaf Jam because Tina Davis and Jane Jones,
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Speaker 5: They wouldn't let me sign X.
42:05
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42:08
Speaker 4: meeting and they're telling me the duties of an NR
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42:15
Speaker 4: as they stopped talking, Yo, we gotta sign DMX straight
42:23
Speaker 4: laughed in my face.
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Speaker 5: I don't think it was gonna work. They know it
42:27
Speaker 5: was the first meeting.
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Speaker 7: It's like, you're not in a position to say that.
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Speaker 5: Shut the fuck up, learn what you try to do.
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Speaker 4: So the second meeting, Yo, we gotta sign DMX started
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Speaker 4: playing music. He's barking, gotta get the fuck out of here,
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Speaker 4: That actually made me an X like this. When the
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Speaker 4: X found out, he said, yo, yo, you quit dog.
43:38
Speaker 4: He said you quit for me, and I was like, yeah,
43:40
Speaker 4: it wasn't signing you. So it wasn't signing you. I
43:43
Speaker 4: didn't want to be there. That made me and that
43:46
Speaker 4: nigga like this, Cause if you knew x X ain't
43:52
Speaker 4: big on words because he's been lied to so much
43:56
Speaker 4: by growing ups, like grown up sly Gotti, so he's
44:00
Speaker 4: he was never a god big on words, he big
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Speaker 4: on actions. So when I did that, it was like
44:09
Speaker 4: I couldn't tell him I loved him anymore than that.
44:14
Speaker 4: And after that, me and him was we went on
44:18
Speaker 4: the ring and terror. Anything I wanted, he would do it,
44:23
Speaker 4: Darren and why like they needed him to do something?
44:28
Speaker 4: Tell God, he to ask him because he wouldn't tell me. No,
44:32
Speaker 4: he couldn't believe. He said you quit, death Jam. I said, yeah,
44:36
Speaker 4: fuck the niggas they corny.
44:39
Speaker 5: He was like.
44:41
Speaker 4: Death Jam is like that's the biggest label ever. And
44:45
Speaker 4: for me to say I quit because you ain't signing
44:48
Speaker 4: my man. That's all he needed to like.
44:51
Speaker 5: He was me and him.
44:54
Speaker 4: We was all in with each other, all in.
45:00
Speaker 7: How did that work on the three sixty? When you
45:02
Speaker 7: come back and actually get a label at that chap,
45:04
Speaker 7: then how's that Leo didn't give me the label?
45:07
Speaker 5: Gave you label.
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Speaker 8: Dave mcphiston and Tommy Mantola, so.
45:11
Speaker 5: They sitting there watching me blaze it.
45:15
Speaker 4: So this guy David fishing home, I want you to
45:18
Speaker 4: produce some records for me. Come to a meeting, remember
45:21
Speaker 4: the shock Ball met him at the shock Ball. I
45:27
Speaker 4: get there. He said, I don't want no records. I
45:29
Speaker 4: want to offer you a label. I think you're a genius.
45:32
Speaker 4: I said what he said, me and Sony and Timy Mottola,
45:36
Speaker 4: we want to offer you a record label.
45:39
Speaker 5: I was like that.
45:41
Speaker 4: I said with Yoe Jackson Joe, if y'all want them,
45:45
Speaker 4: they signed already, I said, I could probably get them
45:47
Speaker 4: to do some records. Say yeah, I said, they didn't care.
45:52
Speaker 4: He was like yeah the star, Jaymickfish and Tom Mattola
45:56
Speaker 4: was like, yeare the star. And it was like we
45:59
Speaker 4: know you're gonna make it work.
46:01
Speaker 8: So is that is that how we get to the
46:03
Speaker 8: double X cover of Murdered Ink because the first time I.
46:06
Speaker 4: Heard double XL cover was before that, because it was
46:09
Speaker 4: for Jo's album.
46:10
Speaker 7: Okay, so Jow wasn't signed to Murder Inc At first, Yeah,
46:13
Speaker 7: Joab was signed to Murder Ring all right, so what happened?
46:17
Speaker 4: Jow was originally signed the Top Dog Productions, but then
46:20
Speaker 4: I this triggered a label jail.
46:23
Speaker 5: This triggered the label deal. So of course I go
46:26
Speaker 5: back to LIL and I'm like.
46:27
Speaker 4: Yo, Tim resld Is just offered me and Davy Physicists
46:31
Speaker 4: offered me a label deal.
46:34
Speaker 5: Three million dollars.
46:38
Speaker 14: You should stay with me for less. You're going to
46:43
Speaker 14: win with me, So that was his first line of bullshit.
46:48
Speaker 14: I was like, yo, it's three million dollars. He said,
46:50
Speaker 14: I give you a million five he offered me half.
46:54
Speaker 5: Like why the fuck am I saying?
46:56
Speaker 4: And then and then I said, Yo, this is crazy
46:59
Speaker 4: because I didn't make themgas hundreds of millions of dollars.
47:02
Speaker 4: I made you hundreds of millions of dollars. So if
47:04
Speaker 4: they offered me three, really you should be giving me ten.
47:07
Speaker 4: But I said, yo, you're my man, like a father figure.
47:11
Speaker 4: Just smashed the deal.
47:13
Speaker 5: You wouldn't.
47:15
Speaker 4: Until it was a crazy means me Leo, Kevin Lywles,
47:22
Speaker 4: Russell Simmons and this is getting to it and he's
47:28
Speaker 4: still at his million five ship.
47:31
Speaker 5: He is your fucking like a son to me. You
47:33
Speaker 5: cannot leave, see terms of Russell Russell. He's about to leave,
47:39
Speaker 5: fucking say something.
47:41
Speaker 4: So Russell looks at me. But the nigga Chip and
47:44
Speaker 4: Russell kicked in the nigga in Russell. This nigga's from Hollis,
47:50
Speaker 4: just like me. This nigga got a family, he got things.
47:54
Speaker 4: So he was like, oh, Leo, I can I The
48:00
Speaker 4: nigga Chip kicked in Russell and he couldn't tell me
48:03
Speaker 4: take half. This nigga fucking Leo, you fucking he goes
48:12
Speaker 4: in on Russell. He looked at Kevin low Kevin Lowds
48:14
Speaker 4: and the nigga chick Chip kicked in him too.
48:18
Speaker 5: He knew he was all alone and he was screaming
48:23
Speaker 5: and hollering.
48:25
Speaker 15: And he says some wild ship who said, he said,
48:30
Speaker 15: it's his job, it's his job to keep me at
48:35
Speaker 15: the lowest possible course.
48:38
Speaker 4: And when he said that, I said, what the fuck
48:40
Speaker 4: did you say to me? So it's your job that
48:42
Speaker 4: you jerk me. I said, all right, Dad, I'm out.
48:45
Speaker 4: I'm taking the deal that sony fuck all y'all and
48:48
Speaker 4: slammed the door.
48:50
Speaker 5: I left. A hour later, Leo twin to argue talk.
48:58
Speaker 4: I just want you to meet someone, Okay, Doug Marris,
49:04
Speaker 4: which is his boss.
49:06
Speaker 5: So I go to meet Doug.
49:08
Speaker 4: Leo really loves you, Doug. He's damaged control because Leo said,
49:13
Speaker 4: I said some ship.
49:14
Speaker 5: I shouldn't have said.
49:15
Speaker 9: He's the top of the label. Morris said, yeah, that's.
49:19
Speaker 5: Like he's the boss of the universe. Yeah, exactly. He's like,
49:25
Speaker 5: Lee really loves you, and you you need to stay
49:27
Speaker 5: with Leo.
49:28
Speaker 4: And then and then Doug says, I want you to
49:31
Speaker 4: meet somebody and walks Eggar fucking Brothman.
49:36
Speaker 5: You know Edgar Brothman. He's the billionaire nigga who bought
49:40
Speaker 5: the Universal Music Group.
49:43
Speaker 4: Now, his money came from Seagum's gen His father was
49:47
Speaker 4: a bootlegger, famous that turned billionaire. So he comes in
49:51
Speaker 4: there and I know exactly who he is. And I
49:56
Speaker 4: don't know why I said it, but I said it.
49:58
Speaker 5: I said he heay? I said he ain't you? Ain't you?
50:01
Speaker 4: The family of room runners that likes music business, the
50:06
Speaker 4: high sight.
50:07
Speaker 5: This could have fucked be over.
50:09
Speaker 4: He start dying laughing, right, he started dying laughing, and
50:14
Speaker 4: he goes, ain't you the guy who thinks they're gonna
50:17
Speaker 4: go to Sony. I started laughing, and he said, what
50:20
Speaker 4: are they offering you? I made him big mistake. I
50:22
Speaker 4: should have said ten million. I said three million. He
50:26
Speaker 4: said done. Put his arm around me, walk with me.
50:30
Speaker 4: He's my man to this day. I got a good relationship.
50:34
Speaker 5: How much?
50:34
Speaker 7: How much did they end up giving you three?
50:38
Speaker 5: I played myself.
50:40
Speaker 4: He said, what did they offer you? I should have
50:41
Speaker 4: said ten Whatever I'd have said, he was done. That
50:47
Speaker 4: was one of the mistakes. I mean the return of
50:49
Speaker 4: Hindsights twenty twenty.
50:50
Speaker 7: And then you get the jail and the first thing,
50:52
Speaker 7: now job Will becomes your first he's your first.
50:54
Speaker 5: Artist for day. He goes from top dog to.
50:58
Speaker 7: The rest of his history comes right after that. Venevetta
51:01
Speaker 7: VICI that's good, that's good man.
51:04
Speaker 5: You had that album. I didn't have the album I
51:06
Speaker 5: went to I went.
51:07
Speaker 9: To Brazil off that album like.
51:12
Speaker 5: Williams. Hi Williams.
51:15
Speaker 9: They oh yeah, they owe y'all for tourism.
51:17
Speaker 5: Yeah, video. Hi Williams, y'all, we need to go to Brazil.
51:21
Speaker 4: Shooting in Brazil. I said, what we get to Brazil
51:27
Speaker 4: ain't nothing but bad bitches. But there was like, you know,
51:31
Speaker 4: it's eighty five percent prostitution. Then they was like, you know,
51:37
Speaker 4: age is running round quick. So we on the beach,
51:42
Speaker 4: be shooting on the beach. What niggas didn't know is
51:45
Speaker 4: this fucking needles in the.
51:46
Speaker 5: Beach ship keep it, keep your shoes on, keep your
51:49
Speaker 5: fucking shoes on, and your socks socks on it. And
51:52
Speaker 5: niggas is there's needles all over the place.
51:56
Speaker 4: And the chicks is pretty and sexy, but they're like
52:00
Speaker 4: they all prostitutes.
52:03
Speaker 5: In the club. Then the club was called Club Hell
52:08
Speaker 5: word the mother.
52:09
Speaker 4: I thought these niggas were gonna turn into vampires and
52:12
Speaker 4: kill us yo.
52:13
Speaker 5: The club was called Hell Yo. Brazil, the city of
52:18
Speaker 5: God is you know they love.
52:19
Speaker 4: Rule behind that shoot Jesus side rulers loved in Brazil
52:23
Speaker 4: because of because Vinni vede Vici.
52:26
Speaker 5: We went up to the Cristal. Have you ever been that? Yes,
52:31
Speaker 5: religious hotel. You walk up forty.
52:34
Speaker 4: Five minutes flights, you get there and it's fucking Jesus
52:37
Speaker 4: like this and this mad religious because it's like, no,
52:41
Speaker 4: you stay, you stand next to at it's a.
52:45
Speaker 5: Huge statue, see the whole. So that's how we took
52:47
Speaker 5: the nigga. We took a polaroid. That's his album cover.
52:50
Speaker 4: And I was the photographer on the ground and that's
52:54
Speaker 4: his album cover.
52:55
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. But it is man religious.
53:00
Speaker 4: But you know, John, they got murals of job in
53:05
Speaker 4: Brazil in the favelas or whatever.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I went through.
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Speaker 8: I'm telling you, like, my whole thing was next to
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Speaker 8: the club. I went looking for it because I'm like, yo,
53:13
Speaker 8: this It's like it was too That club is mad sketchy.
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Speaker 11: I found out that club will talk first time I
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Speaker 4: I thought it was gonna be where the joke's on
56:18
Speaker 4: us and everyone turns into vampires and we die. I
56:21
Speaker 4: was like, Yo, let's get the fuck out of here
56:23
Speaker 4: before these guys for everyone turns into vampires and eat us.
56:26
Speaker 5: Yo. You see dust to Dawn.
56:29
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is gonna be some dust to Dawn
56:32
Speaker 4: or some blade shit everyone's going to and we're gonna die.
56:35
Speaker 8: Yo, It's a dangerous The first I get there in
56:37
Speaker 8: the hotel, the first thing I mean is just some
56:39
Speaker 8: random dude. He has his phone book and he's like,
56:42
Speaker 8: come in, young man, it's me and my brother.
56:44
Speaker 5: And I'm like, what's that didn't wear no jewelry or none.
56:47
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'll get there in a second.
56:48
Speaker 4: Because if you did, you got robbed. Then the next
56:50
Speaker 4: door you're gonna tell me that's the next story.
56:51
Speaker 5: Then I almost got robbed.
56:53
Speaker 8: The dude snatched my will rob you, of course, But
56:55
Speaker 8: this I was taking a picture and the dude came
56:58
Speaker 8: down the bike, snatched my camera on my hand and
57:00
Speaker 8: try to pedal so fast that he felt the bike.
57:02
Speaker 8: I got the camera back. This is in the first hour.
57:04
Speaker 8: This is after I mee to do with the book.
57:05
Speaker 8: I'm like, what's the book for? He was like, I
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Speaker 8: want you to take a look at it. So I'm like,
57:10
Speaker 8: all right, I'm looking through the book. It's pictures of women.
57:12
Speaker 8: He was like, pick any three you want. I'll have
57:14
Speaker 8: a mail later.
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Speaker 5: I'm like they're all prostitutes. What is this like?
57:18
Speaker 8: And so I'm like, oh, let's go outside pictures And
57:20
Speaker 8: that's when I almost got robbed and got the camera back.
57:22
Speaker 9: But it's a crazy place.
57:23
Speaker 4: But try to rob you for camera. Imagine you had
57:25
Speaker 4: on the Rolex, nigga, you chop your fucking armore for time.
57:30
Speaker 4: It's different.
57:31
Speaker 5: It's the city of God for real. But we didn't
57:33
Speaker 5: know that.
57:35
Speaker 4: But then Rule did a song with some Brazilian big
57:37
Speaker 4: female Brazilian artists. They love Rule in Brazil's that's one
57:41
Speaker 4: of his biggest markets. They don't give a fuck. They
57:44
Speaker 4: love all of those uh slum lord drug dealers all
57:49
Speaker 4: fuck with Rule. They were like, yo, come you know
57:52
Speaker 4: because with the in the slums, if you don't get
57:55
Speaker 4: permission from the drug and you can't go in, you're
57:58
Speaker 4: gonna get shot, You.
58:02
Speaker 5: Bang, nigga, You're gonna get shot.
58:04
Speaker 9: Another thing you don't give remission.
58:06
Speaker 4: From the drug lord and those favelas or whatever. You're
58:09
Speaker 4: getting shot. I took a cab in all them ships.
58:13
Speaker 4: They love them. He got murals, Rule got murals of him.
58:17
Speaker 4: I'm like, wow, this is insane. How much they love
58:20
Speaker 4: you here, yo.
58:21
Speaker 9: I wasn't ruled when I went. I took a cab into.
58:23
Speaker 5: The bunch of Little Z's. You see city, you got
58:25
Speaker 5: it yea through the runs in Little Z.
58:28
Speaker 8: Yeah, was on bikes. We pulled the cab. The cap
58:30
Speaker 8: almost broke down. They had three bikes around us. I
58:33
Speaker 8: had to watch on. I just took it off. I
58:34
Speaker 8: knew I was just gonna get robbed.
58:36
Speaker 9: And then it was Sunday, so it was that's the
58:38
Speaker 9: first thing they told us.
58:38
Speaker 5: I don't win nothing.
58:39
Speaker 4: He said, don't wear nothing, yo, but wear nothing. You're
58:43
Speaker 4: gonna get robbed. And he said, you get robbed by
58:45
Speaker 4: the cops. They said, He's like the best thing that
58:48
Speaker 4: happens if the cops.
58:49
Speaker 12: Robbed you, because Lisia won't get killed, Aleasha won't get killed.
58:53
Speaker 12: Maybe never knows a bunch of Little Z's out there
58:56
Speaker 12: that this wild Mizelle is.
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Speaker 4: It's crazy and I probably I was like after the
59:02
Speaker 4: City of got movie. It probably made it worse. People
59:06
Speaker 4: see the movie and they it amps them out.
59:08
Speaker 5: I gotta see that. I gotta go there.
59:11
Speaker 4: The runs, The Runs. The Runs is like we're going
59:14
Speaker 4: to be drug dealers. We do like Little Z kill everybody.
59:17
Speaker 7: But from a from a point that was you have
59:21
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59:24
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Speaker 5: I gotta give that to hype. It was awesome hype because.
59:28
Speaker 8: I think he took Snoop the next beau beautiful, beautiful situation.
59:33
Speaker 7: But talk about that, like as far as like expanding
59:35
Speaker 7: the reach, like you know, globally again.
59:39
Speaker 5: Stupid is it? Stupid?
59:40
Speaker 4: Does I didn't know? It was just hype saying let's
59:43
Speaker 4: shoot it in Brazil. It's bad bitches, you go to Brazil,
59:48
Speaker 4: we shoot it.
59:49
Speaker 5: I didn't know.
59:52
Speaker 4: I In other words, what I'm trying to say is
59:54
Speaker 4: like I didn't know a lot of the things that
59:57
Speaker 4: happened because of what we did. It wasn't like, yo,
1:00:01
Speaker 4: we're gonna shoot this in Brazil. We're gonna be the
1:00:03
Speaker 4: biggest art of No, you just did it.
1:00:06
Speaker 8: But think about now when you talk about Tails Latin,
1:00:09
Speaker 8: the impact that.
1:00:11
Speaker 5: I have foresight you see what I'm saying.
1:00:13
Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying, get from Hollae queens. But your
1:00:17
Speaker 8: Latin audience is huge, right, like even I remember, and a.
1:00:21
Speaker 4: Latin market is so faithful to their own Yeah that
1:00:26
Speaker 4: when I thought of Tails Latin, I said, if I
1:00:28
Speaker 4: could get someone like Jbalve and Bad Bunny and get
1:00:32
Speaker 4: these guys to do a song with them, they don't
1:00:34
Speaker 4: even have to be in an episode like that, just
1:00:36
Speaker 4: a cameo, right, I don't see the whole Latin market
1:00:42
Speaker 4: is gonna subscribe to whatever streaming service has.
1:00:45
Speaker 5: That they're gonna want to see that.
1:00:48
Speaker 8: Netflix did it with with they put uh that Bunny
1:00:51
Speaker 8: and Knuckles listen, yeah he's a Knuckles in Mexico.
1:00:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, but listen, Netflix didn't need even know what the
1:01:00
Speaker 4: fuck they was doing. They did Narcos, which they used
1:01:04
Speaker 4: that as a vehicle that they wanted to open up
1:01:07
Speaker 4: their Latin market, the Latin countries and get them to subscribe.
1:01:11
Speaker 4: They had no idea that it was gonna be that big.
1:01:13
Speaker 4: Where niggas was on that shit, non Latin people was
1:01:17
Speaker 4: on that shit, And that's what's gonna happen with Tales Latin.
1:01:21
Speaker 4: Because it's like the stories and everything. So if I
1:01:24
Speaker 4: do about a Mexican drug cartel, I'm making Circario.
1:01:28
Speaker 5: It's just an episode of Tales Latin. But it's fucking.
1:01:31
Speaker 4: Cecario, Nigga, we love Cecario.
1:01:35
Speaker 5: Not the second one, but the.
1:01:36
Speaker 4: First one, the first one. Come on, man, you're telling
1:01:41
Speaker 4: me I make a Tales episode like Circario non latins
1:01:45
Speaker 4: is subscribing.
1:01:46
Speaker 5: Well.
1:01:46
Speaker 7: The good thing about the Laton market also is that,
1:01:49
Speaker 7: like Bad Bunny, I think he's Puerto Rican.
1:01:52
Speaker 10: Right, yeah he's I think he's Dominican. I think he's
1:01:55
Speaker 10: Puerto ricantric. Yeah he's from PR. But you sure sure fact?
1:02:01
Speaker 5: Jack? Can we can we google this googles. I think
1:02:05
Speaker 5: Puerto Rican?
1:02:05
Speaker 9: Eight different, he's not Dominican.
1:02:08
Speaker 7: Who's Dominican? None of those sand Thos, none of these
1:02:10
Speaker 7: gods are Dominican. What I realized with the Dominican music
1:02:15
Speaker 7: is that it's more of the beat, right, it's more
1:02:18
Speaker 7: like like that techno, like that's that, but then the
1:02:23
Speaker 7: rapping and all that, they all from Puerto Rico. Bad Bunny,
1:02:26
Speaker 7: what's the other one, Nicky Jams j Balvin?
1:02:30
Speaker 5: Puerto Rican.
1:02:30
Speaker 4: But the thing about it is, do you know Mexican
1:02:33
Speaker 4: music the rappers sing about the drug cartels, makes sense.
1:02:38
Speaker 5: That's what Pitbull was like. He was like, you get
1:02:41
Speaker 5: a Mexican.
1:02:43
Speaker 4: He says, all they do is sing about is the
1:02:46
Speaker 4: biggest drug cartels. The drug cartels, have them sing about
1:02:50
Speaker 4: their life, he says. So the episodes you could do
1:02:53
Speaker 4: with Mexican rappers, it's all drug cartels.
1:02:57
Speaker 5: He says, it's all Sokario and the music.
1:03:00
Speaker 7: They're united under one commonality, which is language. So a
1:03:05
Speaker 7: Puerto Rican artist could be big in Colombia, big in Venezuela. Yeah,
1:03:09
Speaker 7: could be big in Mexico because once you're a Latin artists,
1:03:12
Speaker 7: you get all of that. All speak Spanish, gett you're
1:03:15
Speaker 7: getting all of that. There's more Spanish people in America
1:03:17
Speaker 7: than there are Black.
1:03:18
Speaker 5: People Spanish speaking. That's why Bad Bunny is the biggest
1:03:21
Speaker 5: artists in the world. Exactly.
1:03:22
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. That's why the opportunity for that's
1:03:24
Speaker 7: why it.
1:03:24
Speaker 5: Tells Latin is gonna be humongous.
1:03:27
Speaker 4: That's why when I pitched it, Olivia is like, we'll
1:03:31
Speaker 4: pay for it, and then he said, then we'll go
1:03:33
Speaker 4: to the streaming service what it already done, because we'll
1:03:36
Speaker 4: cut a sweet deal.
1:03:37
Speaker 5: We won't let them pay for it.
1:03:40
Speaker 4: And I was like, you're right, because anyone who sees it,
1:03:43
Speaker 4: if I got any of those big artists and if
1:03:46
Speaker 4: they're gonna won it, and then it'll give us the
1:03:49
Speaker 4: leverage to cut the right deal.
1:03:51
Speaker 8: You got the asset in hand, here it is, you
1:03:52
Speaker 8: can take it. If not, I can go over here.
1:03:54
Speaker 5: I want I want subscriptions. I want a piece.
1:03:58
Speaker 4: The numbers is crazy because at ten dollars a month,
1:04:02
Speaker 4: if you just got a million subscribers, that's one hundred
1:04:04
Speaker 4: and twenty million a year. You guys know, it's a
1:04:08
Speaker 4: ten to twenty multiple. So you basically with a million
1:04:11
Speaker 4: subscribers generated a billion to two billion dollars worth of business.
1:04:14
Speaker 9: Ten next on a minimum.
1:04:15
Speaker 4: Right, I think I can get more than a million
1:04:20
Speaker 4: if I got Bad Bunny and Jay Balvin and Nikki
1:04:23
Speaker 4: jan and all of these the big Mark Anthony Cardi,
1:04:27
Speaker 4: b Yeah, Cardi right, the Milligan yep speak Jennifer Lopez right,
1:04:35
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get ten million subscribers. So that's why I'm like,
1:04:38
Speaker 4: that's why he said let's do it ourselves, because now
1:04:42
Speaker 4: if we do that, we could go to them and
1:04:45
Speaker 4: basically say Hey, we want a percentage of the subscribers.
1:04:49
Speaker 5: How they judge a subscriber.
1:04:51
Speaker 4: If you brought it in, If someone subscribes the first
1:04:55
Speaker 4: thing that they watched, they give that the credit to.
1:04:59
Speaker 4: So if someone pays the ten dollars and first thing
1:05:03
Speaker 4: they watch is tails Latin, they give.
1:05:05
Speaker 5: Me that's why they paid the time, they give me
1:05:07
Speaker 5: the credit for that.
1:05:08
Speaker 4: So there's a metric that they can figure out new
1:05:11
Speaker 4: subscribers and how they subscribe and who is responsible. So
1:05:17
Speaker 4: that's why I was like, yo, again, the dumb nigga
1:05:20
Speaker 4: smartened up. The old me would have just I just
1:05:24
Speaker 4: want to do it. I'm gonna make twenty million. I'll
1:05:27
Speaker 4: make two million for the production costs. I'll make another
1:05:31
Speaker 4: million for the EP. I'man fuck all that. Yeah, I'm
1:05:34
Speaker 4: gonna take that. But on a piece of that shit.
1:05:40
Speaker 5: Yeah, I get you five million subscribers.
1:05:43
Speaker 4: That's six hundred million a year, okay, and then the
1:05:48
Speaker 4: metrics of it six hundred million a year. That's six
1:05:51
Speaker 4: to ten to twelve billion dollars.
1:05:54
Speaker 5: Okay. I don't give a fuck about, nigga, what you're
1:05:58
Speaker 5: giving me? Been a very good boy? What are you
1:06:02
Speaker 5: giving me? That's again the dumb nigga small enough?
1:06:11
Speaker 4: Yeah, I ain't ain't. Now, I'll tell you I'm dumb.
1:06:14
Speaker 4: He is dumb here, but I ain't dumb no more,
1:06:17
Speaker 4: I'm not.
1:06:17
Speaker 7: That's like that streaming. What was it with Canelo?
1:06:20
Speaker 5: Fights Days days? And Yeah?
1:06:24
Speaker 7: Who has that? People that like Canelo?
1:06:26
Speaker 9: They gave him three hundred million for it.
1:06:27
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. Have you ever? Have you ever?
1:06:30
Speaker 7: Do you know anybody has that? You've heard of it before?
1:06:33
Speaker 5: I know exactly what you're talking about.
1:06:35
Speaker 4: I don't know anybody that has it, but they if
1:06:37
Speaker 4: you watch canelot he got a whole country.
1:06:39
Speaker 5: Behind him, that's the thing.
1:06:40
Speaker 8: But you don't gonna watch him four times a year
1:06:43
Speaker 8: where two times he's trying to eat. That's his thing.
1:06:46
Speaker 8: What's to do for it? But he messed it up.
1:06:48
Speaker 8: But if you get a guy like just think about
1:06:50
Speaker 8: the streaming numbers on some of these artis you're talking about, right, Like,
1:06:53
Speaker 8: I think Bad Bunnies at over five billion streams this
1:06:57
Speaker 8: year this right now, this year.
1:06:59
Speaker 5: This streams and their views in the.
1:07:01
Speaker 9: Billion billion dollar video billion view billion videos.
1:07:04
Speaker 4: So if you do a metrics of Bad Bunny and
1:07:06
Speaker 4: you say, even if I get one percent. This guy
1:07:10
Speaker 4: is five billion, what's one percent? So ten percent five
1:07:13
Speaker 4: billion is five hundred million, so one percent is five million.
1:07:17
Speaker 4: So he would be like, if I just get one
1:07:19
Speaker 4: percent of the people that fuck with him?
1:07:22
Speaker 5: Yeah, well lit sup, we're suprillit.
1:07:28
Speaker 9: You brought up you brought up pit Bull?
1:07:30
Speaker 8: And I remember reading it at one point was he
1:07:33
Speaker 8: almost on the label?
1:07:35
Speaker 5: Is that? Is that?
1:07:36
Speaker 4: What? It?
1:07:36
Speaker 5: So paceable?
1:07:37
Speaker 4: I seen him first time I seen him for anyone,
1:07:41
Speaker 4: first time I seen him DMX video.
1:07:42
Speaker 5: Ain't the other guy's got love of me?
1:07:45
Speaker 4: He' shooting the video of Miami. Now, if you know
1:07:47
Speaker 4: us back then, if there was four people that rap battle,
1:07:53
Speaker 4: people destroyed Dragon.
1:07:56
Speaker 5: When I say want some hip hop shit, want some
1:07:59
Speaker 5: rap shit?
1:08:00
Speaker 4: Now, if you know Pitbull, he's very hard to beat
1:08:03
Speaker 4: in the battle because he's off the top, and he's
1:08:07
Speaker 4: great off the top. Not certain people's off the top,
1:08:10
Speaker 4: but they're not really good. No, So it's hard to
1:08:13
Speaker 4: be the nigga who's going to start rhyming about your
1:08:16
Speaker 4: pumas and clown you in It's hot. So he destroyed Drag.
1:08:21
Speaker 4: So I fly him to New York. Behind that he
1:08:26
Speaker 4: gets in the crackhouse, he gets in the booth. His
1:08:29
Speaker 4: nigga's rhyming for like twenty minutes straight freestyle and everything,
1:08:36
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I said, Joe, that got you here.
1:08:40
Speaker 5: Now we got to make hit records. So I basically
1:08:44
Speaker 5: broke down what.
1:08:45
Speaker 4: Hit records is hooks, melodies and shit to which when
1:08:52
Speaker 4: you think of Pitt Boy as an artist, now that's
1:08:54
Speaker 4: all he is.
1:08:56
Speaker 5: Right. This nigga ain't no lyric. This nigga does four
1:09:00
Speaker 5: the eight ball, hugs chanty. So he took what and
1:09:04
Speaker 5: he says it.
1:09:06
Speaker 4: If you have a look at an interview with him,
1:09:08
Speaker 4: he credits his whole success behind me. In that conversation,
1:09:13
Speaker 4: he said, IRV got He changed my whole way of thinking,
1:09:16
Speaker 4: my whole way think. IRV Gott he gets all the
1:09:19
Speaker 4: He credits me for his whole career.
1:09:21
Speaker 5: So happened.
1:09:21
Speaker 4: Ain't signed on because I nigga had I'm on fire
1:09:24
Speaker 4: with j X and Joh.
1:09:26
Speaker 5: He wasn't thinking about it.
1:09:28
Speaker 4: He came to the studio, he failed miserably because I
1:09:32
Speaker 4: gave him my knowledge advice like advice, and he went
1:09:36
Speaker 4: off and became one of the biggest international stars. I
1:09:39
Speaker 4: should have signed him, but I was so busy at
1:09:42
Speaker 4: the time, I was off the hook.
1:09:43
Speaker 5: Ashanti's exploding fucking j X job Lord. Like nigga, I'm
1:09:48
Speaker 5: off the hook.
1:09:49
Speaker 7: I always forget Lloyd shout out the Lloyd you Got album.
1:09:53
Speaker 7: First album was really good.
1:09:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the album that I put my print
1:09:58
Speaker 4: on that.
1:09:59
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
1:09:59
Speaker 4: I tell him all the time, his first album is
1:10:02
Speaker 4: the foundation of his career.
1:10:05
Speaker 5: He got the g Z feature.
1:10:07
Speaker 4: That's what made Wayne want to fuck with them that
1:10:10
Speaker 4: first album because it was it was like gangster. It
1:10:13
Speaker 4: was R and B, but it had a feel to it.
1:10:16
Speaker 4: It wasn't a regular R and B album. I don't
1:10:19
Speaker 4: make regular R and B albums, and his album, that
1:10:21
Speaker 4: first album, it had a feel to it. That's why
1:10:24
Speaker 4: he got a ball MJG. Like all these niggas was
1:10:27
Speaker 4: called they always calling them because he was the little
1:10:30
Speaker 4: nigga that he was like R and B.
1:10:32
Speaker 5: But he had that feel that so had a vibe.
1:10:36
Speaker 5: That's why I tell him all, I'm like, yo, nigga,
1:10:38
Speaker 5: that first album is your foundation. It went gold. You know,
1:10:42
Speaker 5: his next one went platinum, But.
1:10:45
Speaker 7: That get It shows on that one. On the first one,
1:10:49
Speaker 7: get it shows later. No, so first one.
1:10:53
Speaker 5: Get It show.
1:10:54
Speaker 9: It's the first album.
1:10:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, first album.
1:10:56
Speaker 7: Yeah, South littl Wayne Song is the second album, Lil
1:10:59
Speaker 7: Wayne Song, Girls on the World.
1:11:01
Speaker 5: Yeah you was on the first album, No You sec
1:11:04
Speaker 5: second album.
1:11:06
Speaker 9: Girls around the World is the first album.
1:11:07
Speaker 5: Girls around the World. I think it's the third album.
1:11:10
Speaker 5: That was a whole difference. That's what the Paid in Full. Yeah, yeah,
1:11:15
Speaker 5: that's the third.
1:11:16
Speaker 7: Before we ride, I want to ask you about the
1:11:18
Speaker 7: Supreme movie. What's what's the deal with that Supreme movie.
1:11:22
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a gigantic movie to do my man
1:11:26
Speaker 4: preame who I love to do him justice. I didn't
1:11:29
Speaker 4: want the movie to be like even though I love
1:11:32
Speaker 4: Paid in Full, and I wanted to be bigger than that.
1:11:37
Speaker 4: So I got Todd Phillips. Todd Phillips did the Hangover trilogy,
1:11:41
Speaker 4: but he also did The Joker. I sold them on
1:11:45
Speaker 4: the whole idea ideology of prem in the movie. So
1:11:50
Speaker 4: it's a visionary I did slash joint effort production. Not
1:11:55
Speaker 4: the only problem when you involved people like Todd. He's
1:11:58
Speaker 4: doing Joker too right now, so I gotta wait. You
1:12:01
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, He's doing Joker too. Nick Cassavetti's
1:12:06
Speaker 4: is probably gonna be involved. Chris Brancado, who wrote Narcos,
1:12:11
Speaker 4: who wrote Godfather, Harlem wrote wrote it. I've spoken to
1:12:17
Speaker 4: Jamie Fox. I've spoken to Michael B. Jordan to play Prince.
1:12:24
Speaker 4: Spoken of Bradley Cooper. I've spoken to Leonardo DiCaprio, but
1:12:29
Speaker 4: the latest who I spoke to, I really want to
1:12:31
Speaker 4: be a part Mark Wahlburg to play the law enforcement.
1:12:35
Speaker 4: So I'm going for it. American Gangster did three point
1:12:41
Speaker 4: fifty worldwide.
1:12:44
Speaker 5: Did you know who Frank Lucas was before the movie?
1:12:46
Speaker 5: I did not.
1:12:47
Speaker 4: This is this is part of my p Listen, this
1:12:50
Speaker 4: is part of my pitch. I said, Frank Lucas story
1:12:53
Speaker 4: with American Gangster and really did it because of Denzel
1:12:56
Speaker 4: On Russell Crow because we didn't know you, Nigga.
1:13:00
Speaker 5: Great great story though, great great story, great sounds. Okay,
1:13:04
Speaker 5: everybody knows preing. This is true.
1:13:06
Speaker 4: The fact everybody knows my man. So if you judge
1:13:11
Speaker 4: it off that if they did three fifty two, my
1:13:14
Speaker 4: man doing the half yo, were gonna get that half
1:13:16
Speaker 4: of bee because I'm gonna get the actors. I'm gonna
1:13:20
Speaker 4: get the big actors to be in it. But then
1:13:22
Speaker 4: I got Todd Phillips to produce it. With me, I'm
1:13:26
Speaker 4: gonna get Nick Cassavetti's so I'm gonna get all of
1:13:29
Speaker 4: the big names and we're gonna tell a great, great story.
1:13:33
Speaker 4: And with prem you got all of the gangster shit
1:13:38
Speaker 4: from the eighties, but then you got the music business.
1:13:42
Speaker 4: What makes his movies a Prens movie so electric it's
1:13:45
Speaker 4: his affiliation with me and murder Rink, his affiliation in the.
1:13:49
Speaker 5: Music scene, the beef with fifty, you know.
1:13:52
Speaker 4: What I'm saying to beef like, So his music, his
1:13:55
Speaker 4: movie just ain't the whole five percent of it ain't yeah,
1:13:57
Speaker 4: the whole five It just ain't gangster shit. That's why
1:14:00
Speaker 4: when you add all of that together, oh we're gonna
1:14:04
Speaker 4: We're gonna kill him. But now I'm not gonna rush it.
1:14:09
Speaker 4: That's why I wait for Todd Phillips for After Joker.
1:14:13
Speaker 4: It may take two three years for it to come out,
1:14:16
Speaker 4: but when it comes out, that shit gonna be perfect.
1:14:19
Speaker 7: But movies, I think it's different now because nobody watches
1:14:23
Speaker 7: movies in box office anymore. So everything is through streaming.
1:14:27
Speaker 7: So does that effect the revenue that could be because
1:14:29
Speaker 7: like when I remember when American Gangster came out. I
1:14:31
Speaker 7: was in college. I went to the movie theater. See
1:14:33
Speaker 7: that everybody went to the movie.
1:14:34
Speaker 4: I think the Supreme Team movie is a movie that
1:14:36
Speaker 4: people will want to watch in theaters.
1:14:40
Speaker 5: That's like.
1:14:41
Speaker 4: So there's certain like Top Top Gun that shit did
1:14:44
Speaker 4: two billion, or some shit something like Wakanda Forever when
1:14:48
Speaker 4: it comes out, it's gonna do a billion. So there's
1:14:50
Speaker 4: certain movies that I do feel people still want to
1:14:55
Speaker 4: go to a movie. Get the popcorn, the big screen,
1:14:59
Speaker 4: the this surrounding sound, dope be sins.
1:15:02
Speaker 5: They want that.
1:15:03
Speaker 7: When you tell when you tell a story like that,
1:15:05
Speaker 7: how do you be cause it's like obviously you know,
1:15:08
Speaker 7: I think Prince is still trying to come home, right yeah,
1:15:12
Speaker 7: So like how do you do that without you know
1:15:14
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, walking thin lines? And it's hard fully
1:15:18
Speaker 7: incriminating somebody on something that is hard.
1:15:21
Speaker 5: It's hard, but they don't get done. It's hard, but
1:15:25
Speaker 5: it don't get done.
1:15:26
Speaker 12: Just being careful with everything, I think the prem will
1:15:29
Speaker 12: be there the whole step of the way.
1:15:31
Speaker 4: Like I speak to Preme. I still I still talk
1:15:35
Speaker 4: to my man. So it's not like anything is gonna
1:15:39
Speaker 4: get done without him going on.
1:15:41
Speaker 5: He watches, it looks it over.
1:15:42
Speaker 4: And nothing's getting done with Nothing's getting done with Supreme
1:15:46
Speaker 4: without a dialogue with Preme.
1:15:48
Speaker 5: How you feel about Supreme clothing, the Supreme brand, I thought,
1:15:51
Speaker 5: I think it's one of the biggest clothing brands.
1:15:53
Speaker 7: I mean, do you think that had any You think
1:15:55
Speaker 7: they got the name from Supreme or it was just
1:15:57
Speaker 7: a coincidence.
1:15:58
Speaker 4: I don't know, probably yeah, or I know they heard
1:16:02
Speaker 4: it from somewhere unless you under a rock, you know
1:16:06
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
1:16:07
Speaker 8: That was that was even something you uncosored in the documentary.
1:16:09
Speaker 8: I didn't even know that where it was like, Yo,
1:16:10
Speaker 8: they was playing the record the World Supreme Team, and
1:16:14
Speaker 8: they was just having to be in there, like Yo,
1:16:16
Speaker 8: the sun.
1:16:17
Speaker 5: Well famous Supreme Team jug.
1:16:21
Speaker 7: But there's there's two Supremes, right, it was a Puerto
1:16:24
Speaker 7: Rican one. Yeah, that was what Eric being rock him, Yeah.
1:16:28
Speaker 4: Yes, correct, there's another one from Brooklyn. It's like a
1:16:34
Speaker 4: couple of springs. But they used to call prim green
1:16:38
Speaker 4: eye print because he got green eyes. But my pream
1:16:41
Speaker 4: is I've never been you know, it's so crazy. Everyone
1:16:48
Speaker 4: knows this nigga. Like I remember when we first met Shugg,
1:16:53
Speaker 4: we had to we sampled Tupac Pain. So I called
1:16:57
Speaker 4: Jimmy Ivan and he said, you gotta call you gotta
1:17:00
Speaker 4: Claire what shugged and he said, sug controls everything. Said,
1:17:06
Speaker 4: I give me his number, so he hooked it up.
1:17:09
Speaker 4: He's coming to Enterprise Studios to meet with us, and
1:17:14
Speaker 4: it's crazy. And that's when Preem was home Supremes with me.
1:17:19
Speaker 4: He was like, thirty niggas in the studio hood it out,
1:17:25
Speaker 4: but that was murder ring. It was just a normal
1:17:27
Speaker 4: session at the office, another dead's office number, but niggas.
1:17:32
Speaker 4: So she'll pulls up and his limo he gets out,
1:17:35
Speaker 4: you know the cigar.
1:17:36
Speaker 5: Oh. He's looking around.
1:17:39
Speaker 4: He's like, you niggas ain't on no Hollywood shit, first.
1:17:46
Speaker 5: Shit he said.
1:17:46
Speaker 4: I was like nah, I said, this is just so
1:17:49
Speaker 4: he's all my niggas. He recognized Spring. I don't give
1:17:55
Speaker 4: a fuck where we was at. I think niggas knew
1:17:58
Speaker 4: that who that nigga was, and even himI Primum immediately bonded.
1:18:04
Speaker 5: He's say, oh, Ship, what's up, homie. He was like,
1:18:06
Speaker 5: what's up. He's like yov he said yeah. In Premium he.
1:18:09
Speaker 4: Said, yeah, I'm the murdering murder rank and ship. But
1:18:13
Speaker 4: he used to be like, nah, God, he's my brother.
1:18:16
Speaker 5: I'm here.
1:18:17
Speaker 4: You know, we all in so we all got to talking.
1:18:22
Speaker 4: He gave me, he gave me the sample for free.
1:18:26
Speaker 4: He gave me the sample for free. Every time he
1:18:28
Speaker 4: heard pop on the Jaw albums, he gave it to
1:18:31
Speaker 4: us for free.
1:18:35
Speaker 5: Niggas used to come up to me, niggas from New York.
1:18:37
Speaker 5: How the fuck you fuck with that nigga?
1:18:39
Speaker 7: Yo?
1:18:39
Speaker 4: You know he probably has something to do with Biggie.
1:18:41
Speaker 4: I said, listen, man, I don't know that right. And
1:18:46
Speaker 4: I said I could only judge the man how he
1:18:50
Speaker 4: is with me, said, I heard all the stories, but
1:18:53
Speaker 4: how he is with me. He's a great nigga and
1:18:56
Speaker 4: a great friend. And they would be like, because you
1:19:01
Speaker 4: know how it is in the hood too. You be
1:19:04
Speaker 4: in the hood and you know the nigga that killed
1:19:06
Speaker 4: this nigga. You know who killed them. But you're cool
1:19:09
Speaker 4: with both sides. So it's like, what you want me
1:19:13
Speaker 4: to do? I know him, I know him. I don't
1:19:16
Speaker 4: want the nigga to do I don't I love Biggie.
1:19:19
Speaker 4: I had some great times with Biggie.
1:19:21
Speaker 5: What the fuck you want me to do?
1:19:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm cool with both sides, and that happens very
1:19:29
Speaker 4: often in the hood, right at least with me.
1:19:32
Speaker 5: I was dj erv I knew everybody.
1:19:35
Speaker 7: But even that relationship is because I spoke to Christian
1:19:37
Speaker 7: y'all from how Hollis. He's from south Side Hollis. In
1:19:40
Speaker 7: south Side, they don't really your pream. It's an issue.
1:19:43
Speaker 7: It's a hat field to McCoy's used the issues right.
1:19:45
Speaker 7: But I never was a nigga like that.
1:19:47
Speaker 4: I never was a territory arm from Holland, so I
1:19:49
Speaker 4: can't be cool. I always tell the story this nigga
1:19:52
Speaker 4: named Big Rich. He was a basketball player. So when
1:19:55
Speaker 4: I used to make my blend tapes now selling them,
1:19:59
Speaker 4: Big Rich was like, Yo, niggas love you in forty
1:20:02
Speaker 4: I'm like where He's like, niggas love you and forty
1:20:05
Speaker 4: and Baisley.
1:20:06
Speaker 5: He's you, I'm taking you over there.
1:20:07
Speaker 4: So I used to be in forty and Baisley all
1:20:09
Speaker 4: night in the projects selling my tapes and niggas love
1:20:13
Speaker 4: my tapes. So yeah, I'm a house snigger, but I
1:20:16
Speaker 4: never was into that, like we all niggas, you know.
1:20:23
Speaker 7: I mean, I think it makes sense. I'm just saying
1:20:26
Speaker 7: I was never like that I was never. Oh, I'm
1:20:29
Speaker 7: from Hollis, so I can't fuck with no No.
1:20:32
Speaker 4: When I shot Get the Fortune video, which is when
1:20:35
Speaker 4: I'm at Preem, I'm a Hollist nigga with this group
1:20:39
Speaker 4: that's from Hollis. But I wanted to shoot on god Bro,
1:20:43
Speaker 4: which your south side. So I'm shooting on god Bro
1:20:46
Speaker 4: because on the block that I shot, it looked like
1:20:48
Speaker 4: a block for a hood grocery store, laundry mat Lick,
1:20:53
Speaker 4: the store. It had the aesthetics. So I'm shooting over there.
1:20:57
Speaker 4: I'm shooting because I've always been. I fucked with everybody.
1:21:02
Speaker 4: And sure enough, Yoe, you want to meet Preme, I'm
1:21:06
Speaker 4: like Supreme Supreme. They said, yeah, he right there, he
1:21:09
Speaker 4: want to talk to you. I said, yeah, I want
1:21:11
Speaker 4: to meet him. Nigga, come over. This nigga's like five
1:21:14
Speaker 4: for five or so. This little nigga. You think it's
1:21:17
Speaker 4: supreme that all these niggas.
1:21:20
Speaker 5: Oh, J Prince is the same way, and he sit
1:21:23
Speaker 5: there and talk to.
1:21:24
Speaker 4: You, and he's this little nigga monster I got anywhere else.
1:21:35
Speaker 4: That's how it was with Preme. Come up, man, he's
1:21:38
Speaker 4: just a good nigga. He asked me if I could
1:21:42
Speaker 4: help him shoot a movie. I said, I'm shooting this video.
1:21:44
Speaker 4: It's like the first video I'm shooting. Not you know,
1:21:48
Speaker 4: I ain't no front nigga. You know another niggas.
1:21:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can shoot a movie. You know what I'm saying.
1:21:53
Speaker 5: I've never been I'm not a front nigga. So I'm like, nah,
1:21:56
Speaker 5: I don't.
1:21:56
Speaker 4: I don't think I can shoot a movie, spreing or
1:21:59
Speaker 4: whatever he said, and then we just start kicking it.
1:22:02
Speaker 4: We exchanged numbers. He was like in the halfway house,
1:22:06
Speaker 4: still coming off the Feds, and we just we just
1:22:11
Speaker 4: bonded up, me and him and BJ. We just to
1:22:14
Speaker 4: ride around in my I had a j just three hundred.
1:22:19
Speaker 4: I give prem credit for Ain't No Nigga coming out
1:22:23
Speaker 4: because he loved that record so much.
1:22:25
Speaker 5: So, you know, I had all of Jay's records before
1:22:27
Speaker 5: a reasonable doubt. Men play Ain't No Nigga. Yo.
1:22:31
Speaker 4: He loved the line weapons can say what the fuck
1:22:33
Speaker 4: y'all feel? If y'all niggas play sick, we could all
1:22:35
Speaker 4: get there.
1:22:36
Speaker 5: What the deal?
1:22:37
Speaker 4: He'd be like, Man, Jay Vicious, Man that nigga Vicious
1:22:40
Speaker 4: got he that niggaious d Yes, nigga. I brought for
1:22:43
Speaker 4: him up to seventeen John Street, and he used to
1:22:46
Speaker 4: always be like, man, Ain't no Nigga to won Yo,
1:22:48
Speaker 4: and I used to be like, ain't no niggas the
1:22:50
Speaker 4: single And because of that pressure, they said fucking and
1:22:53
Speaker 4: put it on the B side of their presidency.
1:22:56
Speaker 5: But that was the record that did it for him.
1:22:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, yeah, And I'm telling you Prem's energy, I'm
1:23:03
Speaker 4: gonna give him credit for that.
1:23:05
Speaker 5: He loved that record. He loved j too.
1:23:08
Speaker 4: He loved j It was great because me and Jay
1:23:13
Speaker 4: would have differences of opinion.
1:23:18
Speaker 5: Prem would always Naw, you gotta see it like this.
1:23:22
Speaker 4: He would be I'd be like, yo, we're pre at
1:23:24
Speaker 4: the sid Joe he had, he had Dot Savannah with
1:23:26
Speaker 4: Jay and shit talking. They would have like meetings and
1:23:31
Speaker 4: he would always keep the peace and keep us together
1:23:37
Speaker 4: because I was mad at Jae a few times, but
1:23:40
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, he was mad at me
1:23:42
Speaker 4: probably a few times too.
1:23:44
Speaker 8: I'm just thinking, like at the height of it, like
1:23:47
Speaker 8: especially when Joe's ringing off right like he's the biggest
1:23:51
Speaker 8: artist right like X ninety eight ninety nine, and then
1:23:55
Speaker 8: John just takes over and Jay's still like consistently there.
1:23:58
Speaker 8: But that's your guy, very competitive and he's watching your guy.
1:24:02
Speaker 5: Now.
1:24:03
Speaker 4: Let me tell you those three guys, it was weird
1:24:07
Speaker 4: for me because each one of them thought that they
1:24:12
Speaker 4: was the best. So if I was doing something with Jay,
1:24:16
Speaker 4: X would be like, Yo, you think that nigga better
1:24:18
Speaker 4: than me?
1:24:19
Speaker 5: And I'd be like, Yo, the niggas is man nice
1:24:22
Speaker 5: just like you and Jay. Forget about it, Yo.
1:24:26
Speaker 4: You think them niggas is better than me? They're nice, Jay,
1:24:30
Speaker 4: They're nice. But it would be constant. That would for
1:24:34
Speaker 4: like three four years out it was. It was heavy
1:24:36
Speaker 4: like that.
1:24:37
Speaker 9: Can I get it for John?
1:24:41
Speaker 5: Out of here?
1:24:43
Speaker 8: That's the biggest record on Blume two Hard Knocked Life,
1:24:48
Speaker 8: biggest record saying yeah, because that ends up.
1:24:52
Speaker 4: The record would not go away. When that record came out,
1:24:55
Speaker 4: it stayed on the charts for like a year.
1:24:57
Speaker 7: And then it ended up. And that's what they used
1:24:59
Speaker 7: to do. They don't do that any more, but it
1:25:00
Speaker 7: ended up on this album. But it was also on
1:25:01
Speaker 7: the Rush Hour soundtrack.
1:25:03
Speaker 5: Rushower sold four million, j sold.
1:25:05
Speaker 4: Eight million, so that was double well whatever that is,
1:25:09
Speaker 4: and that record was largely responsible.
1:25:11
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, big, big time. It wasn't the Drew Hill single.
1:25:15
Speaker 4: No, it all helped it all, It all helped though,
1:25:20
Speaker 4: But that can I get a record?
1:25:22
Speaker 5: Was the Savage? It would not go away? Y'all? Yeah,
1:25:25
Speaker 5: like it was.
1:25:26
Speaker 4: First it was an urban record at urban radio crushed it.
1:25:30
Speaker 4: Then it was a rhythm record crushed it. Then it
1:25:33
Speaker 4: when it stopped forty crushed it. So it just would
1:25:37
Speaker 4: not go away. It would not go away, and it
1:25:40
Speaker 4: was fueling sales of rush Hour and Jay's up do.
1:25:45
Speaker 5: You listen to?
1:25:46
Speaker 8: I mean we said this to hit make it other day,
1:25:48
Speaker 8: I was like, I feel like puff dominated music, especially remixes,
1:25:53
Speaker 8: and then it was your turn and you came and
1:25:55
Speaker 8: just flipped it and dominated. And I feel like he's
1:25:58
Speaker 8: doing it too. Out there producer that you listen to
1:26:00
Speaker 8: now you're like hit makers. He'll tell you he's said,
1:26:03
Speaker 8: he said he did.
1:26:05
Speaker 5: Hit Maker came up to me. He says, I only
1:26:07
Speaker 5: do what I think you would do. He said that. Kall,
1:26:10
Speaker 5: It says that too. You know, so that they was
1:26:12
Speaker 5: watching me and watching what I do.
1:26:15
Speaker 4: You know, I applaud him. I think he's killing it.
1:26:18
Speaker 4: He hit maker makes great feel good music, So I
1:26:23
Speaker 4: got no problem with with any of that.
1:26:25
Speaker 9: Is there any other cats that you're looking at, like Yo,
1:26:28
Speaker 9: just do is nice.
1:26:29
Speaker 4: There's a few hit boy. I thought hit boy. I
1:26:32
Speaker 4: thought that niggas in Paris beat. That beat alone is
1:26:37
Speaker 4: like he's immortal to me.
1:26:38
Speaker 7: I like what he's been doing with Nas to the last.
1:26:41
Speaker 7: I think he did three albums together.
1:26:43
Speaker 5: One's coming. It's very nostalgic.
1:26:45
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think with Nas and this is just me.
1:26:49
Speaker 4: Nas is the Queen's nigga. So I have a specific opinion.
1:26:53
Speaker 4: I don't like it, and he hates this. But I
1:26:57
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck about to going to Africa spiritual nods.
1:27:03
Speaker 4: The I don't give a fuck about the ns. Who
1:27:06
Speaker 4: wants to do right by the world. I want the
1:27:11
Speaker 4: nigga pissing in the elevator. So you want nasty nods
1:27:14
Speaker 4: every time? Like every time, I don't. I don't want
1:27:18
Speaker 4: to hear. I know I can with the kids, fuck
1:27:22
Speaker 4: all that. I want to hear they shooting now made
1:27:25
Speaker 4: you look. I want to hear the grimy pissing it
1:27:29
Speaker 4: in the elevator nods. I think when he's on that vibe,
1:27:33
Speaker 4: there's no one like him. When he's on that vibe
1:27:37
Speaker 4: and painting them pictures of Queensbridge and drug dealing, and
1:27:41
Speaker 4: that there's no one like this.
1:27:44
Speaker 5: Nigga.
1:27:44
Speaker 4: Yo, I think Illmatic. I think Illmatic might be the
1:27:49
Speaker 4: best hip hop album I ever made.
1:27:51
Speaker 9: You know what, well we can now.
1:27:54
Speaker 5: No, it's a fact.
1:27:55
Speaker 9: I've been arguing this for the past twenty years.
1:27:57
Speaker 7: I mean it's not on the argument, but I mean
1:27:59
Speaker 7: as a hip hop album.
1:28:00
Speaker 9: But then it defeats your argument.
1:28:02
Speaker 5: No, no, no, you gotta understand who you think.
1:28:04
Speaker 9: No, no, say your argument. I can get a chance.
1:28:08
Speaker 7: I think it was written as a better album than
1:28:10
Speaker 7: it Matic.
1:28:11
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you why. I'll tell you why. I'm
1:28:13
Speaker 5: gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why. I'm
1:28:15
Speaker 5: gonna tell you what. I'm gonna tell you why it
1:28:18
Speaker 5: was written.
1:28:18
Speaker 7: He started thinking, No, no, it was written when he
1:28:21
Speaker 7: was on some fly ship.
1:28:22
Speaker 5: Look, I don't like it.
1:28:23
Speaker 7: Did I just say that that's personal opinion because it
1:28:27
Speaker 7: got his best Well, when did he become a superstar?
1:28:30
Speaker 5: It was every day, complete, your last thing, the young
1:28:34
Speaker 5: the world.
1:28:35
Speaker 9: Hey, hey, it's an anticipation for him.
1:28:39
Speaker 5: Listen, super listen, listen and see.
1:28:41
Speaker 4: I give nads the same thing I give Dre, Doctor Dre.
1:28:46
Speaker 5: I said to Dre Dre.
1:28:48
Speaker 4: Once, I said, Dre, do you know why you could
1:28:50
Speaker 4: put out The Chronic ten years later? It still serve
1:28:53
Speaker 4: niggas because we don't do what you do. Nigga, when's
1:28:57
Speaker 4: the last time you heard a gangst the album The
1:29:00
Speaker 4: Chronic two thousand and one.
1:29:02
Speaker 5: So if he comes out and him and Snoop and fucking.
1:29:07
Speaker 4: All those old gangst niggs, if they make a record
1:29:11
Speaker 4: and doctor Dre makes it, it's gonna be that gangster
1:29:14
Speaker 4: ship that were missing.
1:29:16
Speaker 5: And I said to Nas the same thing.
1:29:19
Speaker 4: Niggas, don't give that motherfucking pits it in the elevator
1:29:23
Speaker 4: music like you.
1:29:26
Speaker 7: The Army Jacket Nas is legendary, but the aver Rex
1:29:30
Speaker 7: Nas no different. Bro Esco the Third like the Esco
1:29:35
Speaker 7: ball Era. You're losing, man.
1:29:41
Speaker 5: You're losing.
1:29:44
Speaker 7: Esco bro Escot's fly.
1:29:48
Speaker 4: I don't want to fly, nigga. I want the fucking ignorant.
1:29:53
Speaker 4: I went to hell for snuffing Jesus. Nigga, who the
1:29:57
Speaker 4: fuck says that when I was twelve into hell for
1:30:00
Speaker 4: snuffing Jesus.
1:30:01
Speaker 5: First of all, for.
1:30:03
Speaker 4: You to think that that's crazy, you're fucking a lunaty.
1:30:08
Speaker 4: But he expanded on it going to the later things.
1:30:11
Speaker 4: He says, y'all don't believe in none of this ship.
1:30:12
Speaker 4: Your facts is backwards.
1:30:14
Speaker 8: So this nigga is a He was waving automatic guns
1:30:17
Speaker 8: and nuns like, come on, man, come that's Max.
1:30:21
Speaker 9: I mean, I'm glad I came to say that from.
1:30:23
Speaker 4: Made You Look may be the best hip hop record.
1:30:27
Speaker 4: He has the best hip hop album and the best
1:30:30
Speaker 4: hip hop single. The best hip hop record might be
1:30:34
Speaker 4: Made You Look.
1:30:35
Speaker 5: Better than if I Roll the World.
1:30:37
Speaker 13: If I Roll the Wall, it isn't even in the
1:30:39
Speaker 13: fucking It isn't even in the sentence, and isn't none
1:30:44
Speaker 13: of the last.
1:30:47
Speaker 5: I said a hip hop record, you're gonna put it?
1:30:50
Speaker 13: If I wrote and Laura in the bitch listen, great record, immortal, iconic.
1:30:55
Speaker 5: He ain't on a fucking less that's the greatest hip
1:30:58
Speaker 5: hop if he does.
1:30:59
Speaker 7: If he doesn't, Versus, that's his last song, that's his
1:31:02
Speaker 7: last song.
1:31:02
Speaker 13: On the funk about Versus, Nigga talking about I said
1:31:06
Speaker 13: it him, if I said it, Hippro, I said, Major
1:31:10
Speaker 13: Look might be the best hip hop records.
1:31:13
Speaker 5: Major Records.
1:31:13
Speaker 7: Make You Look was our theme songs. Intro to intro
1:31:17
Speaker 7: to the show. That's dope, the tollhot, the gun shot, No,
1:31:23
Speaker 7: you gotta let it fly with the gun shot starts
1:31:26
Speaker 7: off like to the world, let the beat fly, and
1:31:28
Speaker 7: then yeah, beats ridiculous.
1:31:30
Speaker 5: So the beas ridiculous, but it's a fucking breakbeat. It's
1:31:35
Speaker 5: hip hop absolutely with the basse nigga.
1:31:40
Speaker 13: And then you just said that if I ruled the world,
1:31:43
Speaker 13: it's not even in the same beat continent.
1:31:47
Speaker 5: If I ruled the world and made you look, ain't
1:31:49
Speaker 5: even the same planet, nigga, then planet alright, alright, so
1:31:59
Speaker 5: let's hold on. I want to hear one on the list.
1:32:02
Speaker 5: What's on the list?
1:32:02
Speaker 8: Like if we had the best hip hop records, because
1:32:05
Speaker 8: like in my mind, I got like five.
1:32:06
Speaker 9: I'm like, yo, these are the best records that I've
1:32:09
Speaker 9: ever heard in hip hop.
1:32:10
Speaker 5: It's like, I want to hear yours.
1:32:12
Speaker 11: And then the ones that you album the song so
1:32:14
Speaker 11: talking just songs, the song single, what's the best you
1:32:17
Speaker 11: gotta put Sucker MC's run DMC And I know I'm old,
1:32:23
Speaker 11: that's fair, but you.
1:32:24
Speaker 5: Gotta put that on there.
1:32:25
Speaker 11: Okay, okay, it's the best hip hop made you look
1:32:29
Speaker 11: is on in there.
1:32:31
Speaker 4: Every beef for president has to be there. It's in
1:32:34
Speaker 4: the conversation that has to be there. No, but I'm
1:32:37
Speaker 4: saying it's in the conversation. Okay, okay, but it ain't
1:32:40
Speaker 4: harder than made You Look.
1:32:42
Speaker 5: And you so one of them every beef for president. No,
1:32:44
Speaker 5: it's not. It's not harder than made You Look.
1:32:47
Speaker 9: I'm gonna let you go, keep going.
1:32:49
Speaker 5: It's a great hip hop record, but it ain't harder
1:32:51
Speaker 5: than Major Look.
1:32:52
Speaker 4: Uh, West Coast is different because West Coast made production
1:33:00
Speaker 4: like these records that I just named is like raw
1:33:03
Speaker 4: hip hop records.
1:33:04
Speaker 7: But it's still hip hop. Is it's a different.
1:33:06
Speaker 5: First Coach, don't give you raw hip hop.
1:33:09
Speaker 4: They give you oh my God production hip hop, Doctor Dre,
1:33:16
Speaker 4: they give you doctor Dre. Masterpieces, hip hop classics might
1:33:25
Speaker 4: have been definitely raw Nigga like bomb Bom Bomb Bums
1:33:28
Speaker 4: Boom like that.
1:33:32
Speaker 5: That's like a raw hip hop.
1:33:33
Speaker 7: I think I think this is a This is a joke.
1:33:35
Speaker 5: Whatever happened to Little Malik.
1:33:38
Speaker 4: That nigga was supposed to be the biggest rapper.
1:33:40
Speaker 5: Over Pump Pup? No, and when I can't be deep
1:33:46
Speaker 5: Little Malik, y'all niggas wasn't.
1:33:48
Speaker 13: The whole world was on Little Mile we find out
1:33:51
Speaker 13: what the fuck happened?
1:33:52
Speaker 5: A little happened? Google what happened to Little Belief? Please someone.
1:33:58
Speaker 13: Yo, Hey, y'all, never think that that nigga off of
1:34:03
Speaker 13: Snoops album, which was the biggest album then he had
1:34:06
Speaker 13: the last verse on that fucking album and smoked it.
1:34:11
Speaker 5: That Pump Pump.
1:34:12
Speaker 4: Record is like that was there? That was to me,
1:34:16
Speaker 4: their coach to a raw hip hop record, because they
1:34:18
Speaker 4: don't make like Jen and Juice ain't no raw hip
1:34:21
Speaker 4: hop record. That's a colossal, big record production.
1:34:26
Speaker 5: So what's raw?
1:34:27
Speaker 7: So I'm trying to all right, you're saying raw hip hop,
1:34:30
Speaker 7: but you're you're you're biased, You're biased from a geographic
1:34:34
Speaker 7: and even even the records you've you've made are like
1:34:37
Speaker 7: they're not the big records.
1:34:40
Speaker 5: Right.
1:34:40
Speaker 11: I would never say put It on Me is the
1:34:44
Speaker 11: no no no, that's that's the equivalent to this nigga
1:34:48
Speaker 11: the world didn't records, bro No, put It on Me
1:34:53
Speaker 11: is one of is a hip hop record made you
1:34:55
Speaker 11: get it's an argument that it could be a top
1:34:57
Speaker 11: ten record.
1:34:58
Speaker 5: Was so big.
1:35:01
Speaker 7: Listen, Jago had the best karaoke catalog. We've tested this out.
1:35:05
Speaker 7: Jago karaoke is a real thing, you know.
1:35:07
Speaker 5: That's why my catalog sold for so much.
1:35:10
Speaker 4: I actually went and spoke to people at Spotify at
1:35:14
Speaker 4: titled the Streamers, and what they said to me was crazy.
1:35:19
Speaker 4: They was, there was likerv. Your music streams probably more
1:35:25
Speaker 4: than most new artists. Not little Baby right, but like
1:35:33
Speaker 4: poland Polish. No, but he's what his's why they said Polish.
1:35:38
Speaker 4: They said, you know Spotify, you strive to get on
1:35:43
Speaker 4: Rap Caveat. Yes, they got twenty million followers. You're lit
1:35:47
Speaker 4: if you're on ra CA, they said, herb. But with
1:35:50
Speaker 4: you though, a weird thing happens because a lot of
1:35:53
Speaker 4: most everyone makes their own playlists, like you'll make your
1:35:57
Speaker 4: own music that I like.
1:35:59
Speaker 5: And they said, IRV, you're gonna have a lot of
1:36:04
Speaker 5: records on people's playlists. There's an IRV. If they make
1:36:08
Speaker 5: barbecue Vibe, you got like ten records on there.
1:36:12
Speaker 4: No that that job cooking, cooking in the kitchen Vibe,
1:36:16
Speaker 4: you're gonna have like three or four records on it.
1:36:18
Speaker 4: So they told me the metrics of my music because
1:36:22
Speaker 4: it's such field goal music, which everyone loves. They like,
1:36:26
Speaker 4: you're on most people's playlists when they make their own playlists.
1:36:31
Speaker 4: You have records on their playlist.
1:36:33
Speaker 5: But do you think I know you said.
1:36:34
Speaker 4: I mean, if you make a playlist, listen, if you
1:36:37
Speaker 4: make a playlist that, okay, this is my playlist. When
1:36:41
Speaker 4: I have company over, I'm entertaining a vast group of people,
1:36:44
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have a lot of records on that playlist.
1:36:46
Speaker 5: You do, like I said.
1:36:50
Speaker 7: So, But that's why they said my ship is worth
1:36:54
Speaker 7: what you said. It also been going up since you
1:36:56
Speaker 7: sold it, though, too right, this ship is weird.
1:36:58
Speaker 5: Why do you think so? I fucking have no idea.
1:37:01
Speaker 5: Do you think so?
1:37:02
Speaker 8: That's that's what I was alluding to, is like he
1:37:04
Speaker 8: did the verses with Joe, and I feel like it
1:37:07
Speaker 8: was definitely made it go. That made it go great
1:37:09
Speaker 8: that it was like it was a reminder like, yo,
1:37:11
Speaker 8: look this dude has monster like you don't want to
1:37:14
Speaker 8: play with that dude.
1:37:15
Speaker 7: You know, people have short term memories because like when
1:37:18
Speaker 7: I was in prep school, Jaru, he was like, what
1:37:20
Speaker 7: Drake is?
1:37:22
Speaker 5: Yes? No, he was which Drake?
1:37:24
Speaker 7: Huh drizzy he was? He was like Drake, Yes, he
1:37:27
Speaker 7: was like Drake, Drake just has a longer run.
1:37:29
Speaker 8: I'm saying, what Drake? It is like Tom Brady with
1:37:31
Speaker 8: this now, it's like ten years of dominant Drake.
1:37:34
Speaker 7: Drake's been a number one stuff twelve years. That's what
1:37:37
Speaker 7: I'm saying. This is Tom Brady now like one of
1:37:38
Speaker 7: those twelve years when Drake was Drake's been number one
1:37:41
Speaker 7: artists twelve years. Yes, Jaru had about three years when
1:37:45
Speaker 7: he was that big right artist.
1:37:47
Speaker 5: He was the biggest artist.
1:37:48
Speaker 7: Okay, that's it people, people people forget that though, So
1:37:52
Speaker 7: when the verses, I already knew he was going to
1:37:55
Speaker 7: have a stellar performance. It wasn't even up for debate.
1:37:57
Speaker 7: In my mind, I don't think they forgot it.
1:37:59
Speaker 8: I think the fifty he made them feel like, yo,
1:38:02
Speaker 8: you can't like him, even though he had big ass records, right.
1:38:05
Speaker 5: He might have forgot.
1:38:06
Speaker 7: They might have forgotten too though, they forgot a lot
1:38:08
Speaker 7: of records.
1:38:09
Speaker 4: That he had a big part in it because exactly
1:38:11
Speaker 4: what you said. He made people like not want to
1:38:17
Speaker 4: discredit the situation. He made people feel like I ain't
1:38:20
Speaker 4: cool if I play jib, which is crazy. All of
1:38:23
Speaker 4: that's over now though the hits live.
1:38:27
Speaker 5: You can't us. You can't know, but you can't.
1:38:30
Speaker 4: What I've learned with my catalog is something that I've
1:38:33
Speaker 4: taken over the TV film make great Ship, because great
1:38:37
Speaker 4: ship will stand the test of time, and like a
1:38:40
Speaker 4: great movie is forever, a great TV series you'll watch
1:38:44
Speaker 4: it forever. So it's like the same thing with music.
1:38:47
Speaker 4: I make great music. It's standing, it's gonna be forever.
1:38:50
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make TV and film like that too.
1:38:54
Speaker 5: That's it. That's when. That's when, when you own it,
1:38:59
Speaker 5: it's worth something. Yeah, there's a lot of people that
1:39:01
Speaker 5: was making music twenty years ago like me, but they
1:39:04
Speaker 5: ain't selling the ship for a hundred. They own it.
1:39:07
Speaker 9: It's gonna be tough.
1:39:08
Speaker 5: They don't own it.
1:39:08
Speaker 4: But even if they own they own it, it's not
1:39:10
Speaker 4: worth not worth anything because a lot of niggas came
1:39:14
Speaker 4: in with Olivier and Olivia is like, I don't want
1:39:18
Speaker 4: to buy it. It's not like yours.
1:39:20
Speaker 5: Not interested. He's like, it's not like yours.
1:39:23
Speaker 4: It's not gonna in twenty years where he feels it's
1:39:28
Speaker 4: still gonna be ringing off.
1:39:30
Speaker 5: It's still gonna be ringing.
1:39:32
Speaker 4: That's when you could get that hundred. That's when you
1:39:34
Speaker 4: could get the bag. So that's why I said, moving forward,
1:39:37
Speaker 4: that's I took that with TV and film. I gotta
1:39:40
Speaker 4: make great, great content.
1:39:42
Speaker 9: How many singles in it? How many songs in the catalog?
1:39:45
Speaker 5: It's like twenty something like twenty five albums. Twenty five
1:39:49
Speaker 5: albums so wow yeah, wow. See but you look at
1:39:55
Speaker 5: like No Limit.
1:39:56
Speaker 4: Remember No Limit was dropping records, right, but albums every week,
1:40:00
Speaker 4: So even even thing if I'm quite sure if Master
1:40:03
Speaker 4: P wanted to sell it's a big best check.
1:40:06
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's the only think. It's nobody's the biggest.
1:40:09
Speaker 7: That's the cash money's the biggest, but nobody's got nobody's
1:40:12
Speaker 7: listening to those.
1:40:13
Speaker 5: To those cash money will get a billy.
1:40:15
Speaker 7: But the little but little How was little Wayne able
1:40:17
Speaker 7: to sell his master's I heard.
1:40:18
Speaker 5: Lil Wayne sold his young money.
1:40:20
Speaker 9: Money like young money. It wasn't cash money.
1:40:22
Speaker 7: But baby didn't That wasn't babies. No, he probably had
1:40:26
Speaker 7: fifty percent some some level ownership. Yeah, that's just young money.
1:40:29
Speaker 7: So that's only from two thousand and eight to the present.
1:40:33
Speaker 5: But I heard hey got a hundred too.
1:40:35
Speaker 7: Ber Man the best that ever did it.
1:40:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, as far as labels goes, there's no disputing cash
1:40:41
Speaker 4: money is the greatest slave ever.
1:40:43
Speaker 7: Yeah, it is twenty five years still going think about it.
1:40:46
Speaker 7: Biggest artists. You know what I man, Huh that shit
1:40:50
Speaker 7: was out over twenty five, twenty three years ago, ninety nine.
1:40:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, nigga did the nigga's been hot. Now they got
1:40:58
Speaker 5: a young boy twenty three later.
1:41:00
Speaker 9: I think he's just as he signed, as he managed him.
1:41:02
Speaker 5: Hey, listen, they've been hot all the time.
1:41:05
Speaker 9: They got and they got Drake, and they got Nikki.
1:41:07
Speaker 5: Drake, they got nick They don't got Drake anymore.
1:41:10
Speaker 9: We're always in the business of Drake. That's what he said.
1:41:14
Speaker 9: We're always gonna be in a business.
1:41:16
Speaker 5: Yeah. It's like Lebron. Can't let Lebron go.
1:41:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they're the best. They're the best label ever.
1:41:24
Speaker 4: No one's even close to cash money. I don't think
1:41:28
Speaker 4: no one's close to him. And if they, if if
1:41:31
Speaker 4: they ever wanted to sell baby and Slim could get
1:41:34
Speaker 4: a billy, someone will get him a billion dollars show.
1:41:37
Speaker 7: Yeah, earth been a pleasure, my brother. Anything you want
1:41:41
Speaker 7: to let the people know before we before we.
1:41:42
Speaker 4: Rap tails, we made it an American movie, come on
1:41:48
Speaker 4: top of the year with a soundtrack.
1:41:51
Speaker 5: Be on the lookout. It's great content. It's a movie.
1:41:53
Speaker 5: It's a movie. Streamer services a BT.
1:41:55
Speaker 4: Oh it's gonna go No, it's gonna be a theatrical
1:41:59
Speaker 4: then straight stream. Yeah, And I'm adamant about that because
1:42:04
Speaker 4: when I talk to my business people and the streaming services,
1:42:07
Speaker 4: as I see Joe, I'm really about my culture. I'm like, nigga,
1:42:13
Speaker 4: my culture needs to see a movie in the theater.
1:42:16
Speaker 5: Y'all.
1:42:17
Speaker 4: We don't get movies made for us. So I want
1:42:20
Speaker 4: them to be able to go get some popcorn and
1:42:22
Speaker 4: watch it in the theaties. Hear that music play in
1:42:25
Speaker 4: the theaters. I actually really want that. So hopefully that.
1:42:29
Speaker 7: Happens will be as the premiere we will hopefully if
1:42:33
Speaker 7: we get invited.
1:42:34
Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely invited. Jesus Moses. Who's Jesus? Stuff with debate,
1:42:41
Speaker 5: who's Jesus. He's claiming Jesus, He's Jesus Moses.
1:42:44
Speaker 8: I guess that's how it was going. Every time Chris
1:42:46
Speaker 8: says that, he starts with him and says, Jesus.
1:42:48
Speaker 5: I want to make a movie.
1:42:49
Speaker 4: Because I hate I hate that you never see black
1:42:54
Speaker 4: people fight for their freedom. M like Brave Heart, whenever
1:43:00
Speaker 4: you see white people from three hundred to Brave Heart,
1:43:03
Speaker 4: white people will die before they fucking become slaves black people.
1:43:10
Speaker 4: They never showed black people like that. Tried it, Yeah,
1:43:14
Speaker 4: he tried it, but it wasn't what I'm saying. So
1:43:17
Speaker 4: I did a little knowledge and they said the Haitian
1:43:20
Speaker 4: I was just about to say that. He said the
1:43:21
Speaker 4: Haitians revolted the white people and wasn't going, well, you
1:43:25
Speaker 4: know they're going to be slaves. You know, Haiti is
1:43:27
Speaker 4: the only successful and I'm making that movie.
1:43:30
Speaker 7: Well, Haiti is the only country in the world that
1:43:33
Speaker 7: has ever been birthed out of a slave revolt. It
1:43:36
Speaker 7: never has been done before.
1:43:38
Speaker 5: I'm making that movie because like.
1:43:42
Speaker 9: The breaking this is breaking news.
1:43:44
Speaker 4: Free nigga got his head chopped off me freedom till
1:43:49
Speaker 4: he died, y'all. I want to see black people do
1:43:54
Speaker 4: it makes sense. Every time we see black people and
1:43:58
Speaker 4: we're very strong, we could probably fuck white people up.
1:44:03
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go out on the limb and say, your
1:44:05
Speaker 4: niggas from Africa, my bunny on. I'm gonna go out
1:44:09
Speaker 4: on the limb. The niggas came over there with the
1:44:12
Speaker 4: baying that to whatever perhaps, but what they do, they
1:44:16
Speaker 4: got on the boat. So I want to make a
1:44:21
Speaker 4: movie that's true, that depicts niggas standing up and saying
1:44:27
Speaker 4: fuck you.
1:44:28
Speaker 5: Freedom or death.
1:44:31
Speaker 9: That might be the name of the movie.
1:44:34
Speaker 5: I'm serious, though, I'm serious. You can't do that. You
1:44:38
Speaker 5: can't do that.
1:44:41
Speaker 4: Your man Kanye, and Kanye is a friend, but I
1:44:43
Speaker 4: just I don't know what he's doing.
1:44:46
Speaker 5: Right now.
1:44:47
Speaker 4: I don't know what he's doing. Like Ken, I'll tell
1:44:50
Speaker 4: you that, I don't know. I'll tell you this though, me,
1:44:53
Speaker 4: Jay and Kanye was in Paris. Niggas in Paris. I
1:44:56
Speaker 4: had to go see them perform. So when they I
1:44:59
Speaker 4: think it was Washington Room tour, flew out to Paris.
1:45:03
Speaker 4: We was at this little Dinah and if y'all know, yeah,
1:45:06
Speaker 4: Yeay is just different.
1:45:07
Speaker 5: He is, so he said. They told me.
1:45:10
Speaker 4: He says, you know, got he He said, I want
1:45:12
Speaker 4: to do some shit to make the whole world hate me.
1:45:16
Speaker 4: They don't make him love me again. So whenever he
1:45:18
Speaker 4: does crazy shit like this, I'll be like, is this
1:45:21
Speaker 4: is he trying to make everyone? Because what what do
1:45:25
Speaker 4: you think you're gonna get getting from black people by
1:45:29
Speaker 4: shitting on George Floyd and his death. No black person,
1:45:36
Speaker 4: even if you're right, I don't No one cares if
1:45:38
Speaker 4: you're right or wrong. If you have fentanyl, nigga got
1:45:41
Speaker 4: choked out by some fucking racist cops. Shut the fuck up.
1:45:46
Speaker 5: Like, what is that? Yeah, I think it was a miscordedor.
1:45:51
Speaker 7: I don't think he said they said.
1:45:52
Speaker 5: He said, Oh, he said he died from fentanyl.
1:45:54
Speaker 7: So they hit him with the finanel. They hit him,
1:45:57
Speaker 7: So I think his brain it's a conspiracy that they
1:45:59
Speaker 7: actually tried to set him up and they shot him
1:46:01
Speaker 7: with because he said he prayed for eight minutes before
1:46:04
Speaker 7: and he said it even fucked him up because he
1:46:05
Speaker 7: reminded him of virtue. So I think what he was
1:46:07
Speaker 7: trying to say was like they killed him with fittanel,
1:46:10
Speaker 7: because he said they hit him. If you listen, he said,
1:46:12
Speaker 7: they said they hit him with the fittanel.
1:46:14
Speaker 5: That's what he said.
1:46:15
Speaker 9: Yeah, but the Melican examiner said that wasn't.
1:46:17
Speaker 5: No. I'm just saying, well, that's what he said, they
1:46:19
Speaker 5: hit him with the fittanel.
1:46:20
Speaker 9: I think it's just tough to watch, Like, and I
1:46:22
Speaker 9: saw Trevor Noah's talk about it.
1:46:24
Speaker 8: He was like he's had he's dealt with mental illness
1:46:27
Speaker 8: in his family, and when you know somebody's going through that,
1:46:31
Speaker 8: we're not putting the camera on him. We're like, yo,
1:46:33
Speaker 8: is everything okay, you're taking your medication. We're nurturing that
1:46:37
Speaker 8: rather than saying, oh, having never sold, let's recorded, Yeah, dude, do.
1:46:40
Speaker 5: It, do it? Do it?
1:46:41
Speaker 4: And I feel like, I mean, I know, I like
1:46:42
Speaker 4: Kanye personally, we love him. I know him and I
1:46:46
Speaker 4: like him, but I don't know what he's doing when
1:46:52
Speaker 4: he's saying all this shit. And it's like he keeps
1:46:55
Speaker 4: saying shit to make black people not like him. White
1:46:59
Speaker 4: lives matter, that the new ship.
1:47:03
Speaker 9: But it's like, yo, you want you white man can't
1:47:05
Speaker 9: be like he can't.
1:47:07
Speaker 4: He's the most like is it because he's running for
1:47:11
Speaker 4: president and he wants the white vote?
1:47:13
Speaker 5: That could be part of it. I don't know. I
1:47:15
Speaker 5: don't know. I don't know.
1:47:17
Speaker 9: I tried not to give it too much attention.
1:47:20
Speaker 5: Me too, I don't.
1:47:22
Speaker 4: I try not to like have an opinion on anything
1:47:26
Speaker 4: on it, just like that's just it's Kanye, Kanye, Kanye Kanye.
1:47:30
Speaker 9: I just just pray for our brother, that's all I said. Prayful.
1:47:35
Speaker 5: We'll see. Yeah, he's a poet, you'll see there.
1:47:39
Speaker 7: You have a ladies and gentlemen, talsals.
1:47:43
Speaker 5: We made it in America top of the Year.
1:47:46
Speaker 4: It's also a TV component called Double Threat showing the
1:47:50
Speaker 4: making of the movie We made it in America.
1:47:54
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1:47:58
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