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The Week That Was (20 August 2021) · 360 with Katie Woolf

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Speaker 1: Three sixties, the week that was the most listened to
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Speaker 1: hour in Territory radio.
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Speaker 2: The Territory Leaders break down this week's big issues.
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Speaker 3: The top ends weather. First, it is mostly sunny out there.
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Speaker 3: We are heading for thirty four in the city, thirty
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Speaker 3: six in the rural area and thirty four degrees in Catherine.
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Speaker 3: In fact, as I say that, mostly sunny out there,
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Speaker 3: but it's actually looking a little bit overcast.
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Speaker 4: And today's top.
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Speaker 3: End time times in an outball marine is Darwin's time
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Speaker 3: leading Yamaha outboards. And today we are expecting a low
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Speaker 3: tide of three point four meters at eleven o'clock this
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Speaker 3: morning in Darwin.
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Speaker 4: Right now, just taking.
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Speaker 3: A closer look at the temperature, and we are currently
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Speaker 3: sitting on twenty four degrees, twenty six in the rural
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Speaker 3: area and in Catherine we're on twenty three degrees.
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Speaker 4: And of course it is Friday morning.
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Speaker 3: It is time for the week that was at a
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Speaker 3: socially distanced well in a socially distant studio, I am
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Speaker 3: joined this morning by the Deputy Opposition Leader, Jered Mayley.
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Speaker 4: Good morning to you.
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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. Good morning listeners.
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Speaker 3: We've got Kate Warden, the Minister for Territory, Families and
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Speaker 3: Urban Housing and various other things. Good morning to you, Kate.
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Speaker 5: Good morning Katy.
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Speaker 3: And we have got Kesier Puick, the Member for Goida,
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Speaker 3: the Independent Member for Goida.
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Speaker 4: Good morning to.
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Speaker 1: You, morning Katie, Morning rural people and Kezyer.
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Speaker 4: Just on that weather, I do want to ask. I
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Speaker 4: know that yesterday are your.
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Speaker 3: Property and some others were obviously threatened by bushfire.
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Speaker 4: It is a pretty bad afternoon.
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Speaker 6: It was a shocking afternoon and I thank all the
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Speaker 6: fires volunteer as well as Anti Fire Service. They told
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Speaker 6: me they had every available asset fighting the fire on
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Speaker 6: Wallibe Holtz Road, and it's taken out about two hundred
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Speaker 6: and fifty acres of our collective properties and all the
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Speaker 6: past and all the paddocks. But thankfully no structures did
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Speaker 6: come close. So came close right up to the fence line,
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Speaker 6: within twenty feet of one person who looks on the property.
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Speaker 6: And thankfully it was blowing. The wind was blowing towards
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Speaker 6: the north. If we'd been blown the other way, we've
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Speaker 6: all been in trouble. But it just goes to show
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Speaker 6: that you know, it is the dry season, there's there's load,
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Speaker 6: there's fuel loads, and it just brings home to me,
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Speaker 6: you know the importance of neighbors. Like few neighbors came
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Speaker 6: up to see if everything was okay, blokes, because you
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Speaker 6: know they can they can do things.
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Speaker 1: But you know, I had a few thank you. No
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Speaker 1: girls can. But if there's a big bush for off,
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Speaker 1: go out. But you know, we were using everything.
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Speaker 6: We're using wet brooms and leaf blowers to blow flames
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Speaker 6: back and all that sort of stuff of properties.
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Speaker 1: But the fire is they were just everywhere and they
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Speaker 1: knew where to go.
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Speaker 6: One of the first things you do on a big
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Speaker 6: place like collective families got is you just open every gate.
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Speaker 6: You worry about the stock ladder, You just get all
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Speaker 6: the gates open because the fires need to go everywhere.
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Speaker 6: It didn't look like they we could see what they
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Speaker 6: were doing, but they obviously were talking that a co
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Speaker 6: coordinator person somewhere and three fixed wings.
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Speaker 1: That's how serious it was. There was three fixed.
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Speaker 6: Wings dropping water and two helicopters were the spotters. And
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Speaker 6: after it raced through our property, it's gone out the
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Speaker 6: back and towards Robinson Army Barracks where there's still lots
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Speaker 6: of fuel loads.
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Speaker 1: But it's they said it was up there. It's not
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Speaker 1: one of the worse fires we've had in the top end.
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Speaker 1: I think the Girrowen one a couple of years ago
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Speaker 1: was one of the worst.
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Speaker 5: And the.
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Speaker 2: Wind just those fans those fires there's no tomorrow is
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Speaker 2: amazing because we had a good.
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Speaker 6: Wet last year, so of course the fuel load was
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Speaker 6: good and you know we try and clear things. We
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Speaker 6: had all our I know you've got to put your
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Speaker 6: fire acts in and we had them all in, but
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Speaker 6: you know, this didn't stop. This fire just raced across
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Speaker 6: the paddock. So but all good and a big thank
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Speaker 6: out to it my fires.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, big thanks to our fires everybody and those
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Speaker 3: volunteers as well.
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Speaker 4: Sounds like they did a.
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Speaker 6: Phenomenal maxine way from Howd Springs and Steve Russell and
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Speaker 6: moving to Connor where they were there, from Howard Springs
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Speaker 6: and Bobby Burgess from Humpty Do and Cameron he was
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Speaker 6: there Cameron Burrows, so that and then of course the
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Speaker 6: other fireries and Craig Leach is one of our neighbors.
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Speaker 6: He's a fireing with Anty fire Service and he came
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Speaker 6: wasn't on duty, but he came around to help and
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Speaker 6: make sure everyone knew what they were doing, us non
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Speaker 6: fiery people.
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Speaker 3: And doesn't show you, yeah, that sense of community when
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Speaker 3: when the chips are down, everybody does look out for
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Speaker 3: each other and try their best to look for each other,
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Speaker 3: which I think is a wonderful thing and a wonderful
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Speaker 3: thing about Territorians particularly, and well throughout the week we
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Speaker 3: saw Territorians come together and do the right thing.
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Speaker 4: I think you'd have to say.
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Speaker 3: Throughout the COVID lockdown, we do know that Catherine residents
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Speaker 3: are still anxiously waiting to hear their fate after indeed,
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Speaker 3: Greater Darwin and Palmerston were released from lockdown.
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Speaker 4: At noon yesterday.
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Speaker 3: While we know that Catherine is still awaiting some test results.
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Speaker 4: I think Kate, is that right.
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Speaker 7: I think they're waiting a meeting this morning of SEMPSEI,
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Speaker 7: and I think that's happening right now, so post that
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Speaker 7: they'll have all the data they need. And I think
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Speaker 7: that you know, some of that's around wastewater and some
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Speaker 7: of that's about contact tracing. So I was listening yesterday
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Speaker 7: and during our updates yesterday there was a couple of
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Speaker 7: people they still needed to locate, but they also needed
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Speaker 7: to make sure they got all the test results.
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Speaker 5: So mostly phenomenal amount of test results.
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Speaker 7: We're talking about over two thousand to come through, so
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Speaker 7: I think, you know, to say that they just take
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Speaker 7: a little while is probably an underestimation.
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Speaker 5: There's people working flat out to get those.
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Speaker 7: Results back, and traces and tracers.
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Speaker 6: I have a friend up here, a couple who are travelers,
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Speaker 6: and they were staying in Karama somewhere and they were
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Speaker 6: at the restaurant when the fellow was at the outback
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Speaker 6: curry place and they went and got their test at
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Speaker 6: the hospital COVID clinic. But I was talking to her
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Speaker 6: yesterday and she said they were round their place checking
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Speaker 6: on them or ringing.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, she had no.
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Speaker 6: Issue with just two fellows in red car or something
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Speaker 6: making sure. She said they came.
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Speaker 1: Diligently every three or four hours.
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Speaker 6: They rang them on their mobiles just to because they
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Speaker 6: were isolated, they had to stay home and the Laura
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Speaker 6: abiding citizens.
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Speaker 1: But I thought it was phenomenal. I didn't know how
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Speaker 1: diligent the people were.
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Speaker 7: I was walking out with my dogs during the lockdown
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Speaker 7: for my one hour of exercise mask on and had
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Speaker 7: a police car slowed down next to us to make
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Speaker 7: sure that we were doing the right and then were
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Speaker 7: satisfied and off he went.
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Speaker 5: There's lots of the job that police have been doing.
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Speaker 7: And the people across all of our agencies are welfare
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Speaker 7: responders in my agency, with all of the people on
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Speaker 7: the front line, people in health.
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Speaker 5: That the job that they've done, they just stand up.
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Speaker 7: And we just talked a moment ago, Katie about territory
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Speaker 7: and standing up in our agencies and with our NGO,
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Speaker 7: so our non government partners.
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Speaker 5: So the work that people like the Larakir have done, the.
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Speaker 7: Kilano Association down in Catherine, all having to be stood
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Speaker 7: up in a very quick amount of time and getting out,
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Speaker 7: making sure people have got food and that they're safe,
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Speaker 7: have the option for testing if they're within that contact,
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Speaker 7: getting the message out there. The body of work, I
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Speaker 7: think is mind blowing and it's.
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Speaker 4: We're continuing to get asked.
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Speaker 3: Is if a people are asking at the moment, if
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Speaker 3: the test gets sent into states or if we have
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Speaker 3: to wait for those test results to come back from interstate,
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Speaker 3: is that correct?
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Speaker 4: Do we not?
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Speaker 5: No?
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Speaker 7: My understanding is that they're done here done here, they've
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Speaker 7: done so quickly, Katie.
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Speaker 5: I know that.
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Speaker 7: So I had to have a test and I had
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Speaker 7: to have it done by a private organization. I think
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Speaker 7: that probably went into state because that's the nature of
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Speaker 7: that because you have to pay it to service you're
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Speaker 7: paying for. But I think here it's done quite quickly
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Speaker 7: and it's done locally.
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Speaker 2: I just want to give a big shout out to
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Speaker 2: all the Territorians who did the right thing. I've spoke
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Speaker 2: about all that, you see, it really bores down to
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Speaker 2: the average bard of people out there in the street
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Speaker 2: wearing the mask, staying at home and doing the right thing,
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Speaker 2: because if they didn't do that, we wouldn't be where
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Speaker 2: we are now in the lockdown. May have considered it.
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Speaker 2: So the Territorians, you did the right thing, a really
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Speaker 2: big thank you and shout out and you've done a
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Speaker 2: great job.
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Speaker 3: Than Look, there is always so much to cover off,
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Speaker 3: I think when we go through something like a lockdown,
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Speaker 3: And one of the things that quite a few people
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Speaker 3: have been in contact with me about is those businesses
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Speaker 3: and the you know, the tough time that it is
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Speaker 3: for businesses. Even yesterday I had a prominent business woman
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Speaker 3: get in contact with me and say, Katie, it's just
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Speaker 3: so tough when we go through, you know, those three
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Speaker 3: days of having to stand down staff, having to try
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Speaker 3: and juggle it, and it is you know, there is.
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Speaker 4: No doubt about food. Yeah, we all understand that.
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Speaker 3: You know, we're trying to do it for the greater
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Speaker 3: good and trying to stay as safe as possible for everybody.
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Speaker 3: But gee, it's for a lot of business people out there.
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Speaker 7: This is a balancing act and I think everybody acknowledges that.
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Speaker 7: So it's about making sure that your economy doesn't flatline
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Speaker 7: at the same time making sure that everybody's safe. And
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Speaker 7: I think that is what quick fast lockdowns do. It
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Speaker 7: makes it a very short period. I think last time
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Speaker 7: I was on here, we talked about how other people
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Speaker 7: have approached it in other jurisdictions, and I know that.
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Speaker 7: You know, I've got a family member that literally has
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Speaker 7: been going to work and during a lockdown what I
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Speaker 7: would consider non essential work, the territories, you know, the
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Speaker 7: position we've taken about what's essential, what's not essential and lockdowns.
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Speaker 7: It's interesting how just yesterday I was able to do
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Speaker 7: a launch online of disability. Disability Yeah, and it's the
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Speaker 7: Awards for the year to recognize them.
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Speaker 5: We did it online.
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Speaker 7: We did it through a teams and that was then
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Speaker 7: put up online. Afterwards I was able to make the
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Speaker 7: normal speech that I was able to make. We've just
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Speaker 7: found so many ways to do things now, you know,
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Speaker 7: I think places have said, okay, you are essential to
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Speaker 7: our business, so we're going to give you the tools
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Speaker 7: to work from home. And you know, ninety percent I've
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Speaker 7: been able to do that. It's that ten percent that
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Speaker 7: we have to be you know, listen to and work
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Speaker 7: with to find more solutions with That's the really important bit,
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Speaker 7: the ones that are that have been hurt, and that's
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Speaker 7: why we have those business packages.
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Speaker 5: Katie, and you just seen that announcement.
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Speaker 3: Yes, unfortunately, there were quite like there was still quite
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Speaker 3: a few people who were saying that they'd slipped through
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Speaker 3: the cracks, you know, both with that federal announcement and
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Speaker 3: indeed with the Northern Territory government announcement in particular, people
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Speaker 3: contacting me saying that they earn under the seventy five
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Speaker 3: thousand mark. We then spoke you know to the construction
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Speaker 3: some in the construction center sectors sorry, saying that you know,
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Speaker 3: one thousand dollars sort of barely touched as asides for
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Speaker 3: a lot of you know, for some of those businesses.
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Speaker 3: And I get that we're not going to be able
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Speaker 3: to provide an enormous amount of money to every business
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Speaker 3: that is suffering. I think we all sort of understand that.
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Speaker 3: But the discussion then turns to, you know, our vaccination rates.
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Speaker 3: I suppose, and I know that that's been had very
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Speaker 3: prominently in New South Wales at the moment, whether we
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Speaker 3: need to get to that eighty percent vaccination rate before
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Speaker 3: things open up even talk in the territory now, will
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Speaker 3: some Northern Territory children are going to actually be eligible
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Speaker 3: for that vaccine? So the Health Minister saying yesterday that
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Speaker 3: eligible kids aged twelve to fifteen in well in certain
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Speaker 3: parts of the Northern territory are going to be able
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Speaker 3: to get the JAB I know that, you know, I
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Speaker 3: know that there is still some of that hesitancy within
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Speaker 3: the community. But you do start to wonder, are we
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Speaker 3: now reaching that point where we have to you know,
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Speaker 3: we have to sort of say, all right, once the
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Speaker 3: population is at x percent of vaccination, we open up
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Speaker 3: the bulk.
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Speaker 6: I think I think vaccinations obviously the key to this
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Speaker 6: third wave across our country, not so much up here,
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Speaker 6: but of course down south. We have to get as
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Speaker 6: many people in this country vaccinated as possible, whether it
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Speaker 6: be the upper age, the middle, whether it be Pfizer,
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Speaker 6: or whether it be what's the other one called Madernaenica.
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Speaker 6: And if it's going to start to slip down now
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Speaker 6: and to teenagers, I think that's the way we've got
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Speaker 6: to go, because we will not open this country up
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Speaker 6: to like minded company countries like New Zealand or Canada's
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Speaker 6: or wherever until we can prove that our country is
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Speaker 6: safe within itself, like look at it now.
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Speaker 1: Like it's I can't. I know.
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Speaker 6: I know one particular business in Wa and they've got
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Speaker 6: offices in Sydney and Melbourne and bits of Brisbane, and
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Speaker 6: because all those countries, all those places are in lockdown.
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Speaker 6: It's an engineering business and they're not struggling, but it's
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Speaker 6: making it difficult and they are utilizing technology, you know,
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Speaker 6: to do their business. But and there'd be people in
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Speaker 6: the territory where this has happened as well. So whilst
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Speaker 6: the hospitality and the tourism are sort of at the
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Speaker 6: forefront that this has had a huge impact across the
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Speaker 6: board on the economy. So we've got to get on
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Speaker 6: top of this with I think that the vaccination levels
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Speaker 6: and education because there's a whole sway of business.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what New South Wales is losing. There's
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Speaker 1: a billion dollars a day or.
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Speaker 6: Something, you know, and they're big states that contribute to
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Speaker 6: an Australian economy.
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Speaker 2: So it just goes to show that this really isn't
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Speaker 2: I just say said to get policy about COVID. It
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Speaker 2: needs to change and needs to move as a health
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Speaker 2: advice changes, and we need to work out, like you know,
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Speaker 2: this case that came in, where'd it come from? I
12:07
Speaker 2: know that information hasn't been available yet and hopefully it's
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Speaker 2: going to because maybe there need to be some policy
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Speaker 2: changes about why does this fellow get it where to
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Speaker 2: get it from?
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Speaker 7: Then?
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Speaker 2: Why is he allowed to move in the community whilst
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Speaker 2: he's getting his testing? You know, I know that wasn't
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Speaker 2: breaching any rules, but if that's what's causes, they need
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Speaker 2: to be able to look at that and change and
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Speaker 2: learn from learn from happened, because what we don't want
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Speaker 2: is any more lockdowns. You need to make sure that
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Speaker 2: they learn from this might just sit and forget about it.
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Speaker 5: Jared.
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Speaker 7: We can sit here and we can say no more lockdowns.
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Speaker 7: But I think that's putting our heads in the sand,
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Speaker 7: because if you look at this, I'm.
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Speaker 2: Not saying that. I'm just saying that we need to
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Speaker 2: make sure that we learn from our mistakes.
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Speaker 7: Can I point out that the territory has this rule
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Speaker 7: around if you've come from international and we will give
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Speaker 7: you a seventeen day test, and not everywhere does that.
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Speaker 7: And if we hadn't have done that would never have
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Speaker 7: caught him and he would now be still probably out
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Speaker 7: so and.
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Speaker 5: We would have advice. So I just want a situation.
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Speaker 3: Where that's actually where we're actually going to now, as
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Speaker 3: I understand from what the Chief Minister announced yesterday. So
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Speaker 3: those airports, obviously Canberra and Sydney have now been deemed
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Speaker 3: hot spots, which I think some precedented.
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Speaker 4: I think it is the first time ever, Katie.
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Speaker 7: This is because yes, we don't think, we're not sure
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Speaker 7: where he caught it. Did he catch a post coming
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Speaker 7: out of so he did his fourteen days quarantine. Did
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Speaker 7: he come out of that through those airports and catch
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Speaker 7: it there when it's well, while it's unknown, aren't we
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Speaker 7: better off saying sorry. If you come from those places,
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Speaker 7: then you've got to do for it.
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Speaker 5: And I think it's very very happy with that. I
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Speaker 5: don't think everybody's saying.
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Speaker 1: I don't think any story would have it.
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Speaker 7: I mean, it's difficult for people because if you're going
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Speaker 7: via Sydney at the moment to go somewhere else, then
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Speaker 7: it's tricky.
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Speaker 1: Because Sydney's a big airport. That's changed as well.
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Speaker 3: Obviously, is that now we're saying again I understand from
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Speaker 3: the Chief fistic yesterday that now we're saying that if
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Speaker 3: you do come in on that day seventeen, so it's
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Speaker 3: sort of when you're three days out of quarantine that
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Speaker 3: now if you get when you get that test, if
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Speaker 3: you're someone who has to have that test, that you're
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Speaker 3: going to need to stay in quarantine until you get
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Speaker 3: a negative results, which I think is you know, is
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Speaker 3: absolutely fundamental. We've got a situation, yeah, based on what's
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Speaker 3: happened over the last three days. We can't afford to
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Speaker 3: throw businesses into lockdown like that for three days, or
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Speaker 3: everybody into lockdown like that for three days. If it's
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Speaker 3: as simple as us saying, well, let's make sure that
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Speaker 3: this person stays in quarantine until we've got a negative result.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's what I'm saying. We need to
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Speaker 2: learn from our mistakes, and the government do that. That's great,
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Speaker 2: because we can't afford the territory great place up here.
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Speaker 2: We've been so lucky in relation to COVID and labor.
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Speaker 2: We've done a great job. I acknowledge that we've had
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Speaker 2: two lockdowns, very short and sharp. Catherine still in the
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Speaker 2: lockdown now, I think, and got one more data.
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Speaker 5: They get good news today, they do and.
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Speaker 2: We can move on. But we just need to make
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Speaker 2: sure that we learn from our mistakes.
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Speaker 5: Though I would just argue that point.
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Speaker 7: I don't think there's a mistake in us saying we're
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Speaker 7: testing at seventeen days, which we did and we found it.
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Speaker 5: And I think, you know, I.
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Speaker 3: Recond the thing that has obviously been learned if the
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Speaker 3: Chief Minister's then announced it is that if that person
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Speaker 3: was allowed to sort of, you know, travel around while
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Speaker 3: waiting for that test result back. So I think that
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Speaker 3: it does sound as though that lessons been downed. Get
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Speaker 3: them to stay because we don't want to see the territory,
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Speaker 3: you know, I plunge into another three days of lockdown,
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Speaker 3: and we know that even gyms and others at the
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Speaker 3: moment waiting wishing that they were able to open. You know,
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Speaker 3: you think about those people that own gyms. Seven more
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Speaker 3: days without being able to operate is bloody.
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Speaker 7: Heart Katie, Can I say really clearly to your listeners
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Speaker 7: that gyms have been listened to. I've been on the
15:36
Speaker 7: phone during lockdown talking to people and gyms. I'm a
15:39
Speaker 7: gym person myself. Now it's quite sad in my.
15:42
Speaker 5: Life, but.
15:49
Speaker 7: I've got enough of that in the garden. That's extreme
15:52
Speaker 7: gym work in the garden. But I think that the
15:54
Speaker 7: really important thing here is, you know, we're not going
15:56
Speaker 7: to please absolutely everybody, but people from gyms have been
16:00
Speaker 7: heard and we are discussing, you know what is But
16:03
Speaker 7: we have to base it on the evidence. As jur
16:07
Speaker 7: just pointed out, we have to base it the decisions
16:09
Speaker 7: on clinical advice, and these are clinical advices. Now, if
16:12
Speaker 7: there's a way around that or work around then we
16:15
Speaker 7: need to talk about that. And I am being very
16:18
Speaker 7: openly talking to people from gym's to talk about that
16:21
Speaker 7: because I think it's a very important conversation to have.
16:23
Speaker 7: But at the moment that decision is based on clinical advice.
16:26
Speaker 7: I heard some of Hugh Haggey's discussions on the airwaves
16:30
Speaker 7: of the last few days about why he's made that decision,
16:32
Speaker 7: and I have to say, you know, as much as
16:35
Speaker 7: my heart is with people in the gyms, because such
16:37
Speaker 7: a good mental thing. And I think the other thing
16:40
Speaker 7: is when you see that and then we say, oh,
16:43
Speaker 7: it's okay to go and have a meal and have
16:45
Speaker 7: a beer compared to what's good for us, that's hard
16:48
Speaker 7: to take when.
16:50
Speaker 3: You've actually, like I don't know about you guys, but
16:52
Speaker 3: the gym I go to, once I finished using some
16:54
Speaker 3: of the equipment, you've actually got to wipe it down.
16:55
Speaker 4: You've got to use you know, you've got to affect it.
16:58
Speaker 3: So it's literally reached a point where people are making
17:00
Speaker 3: sure that they're socially distanced, they're also making sure that
17:03
Speaker 3: they're wiping that equipment down.
17:04
Speaker 7: So I haven't been doing it for nearly two years,
17:07
Speaker 7: so I think they're quite good at it. But the
17:08
Speaker 7: point was made this morning and I was listening into
17:12
Speaker 7: some of the debate, and I've seen online that all
17:14
Speaker 7: it takes is one small mistake, a bit being missed,
17:17
Speaker 7: and there are those people that come to gyms if
17:19
Speaker 7: we've all seen them that don't do the wiping down.
17:21
Speaker 7: But certainly an OAR gym, if you don't do it,
17:23
Speaker 7: somebody will be behind you going, excuse me.
17:25
Speaker 4: Wiping down down.
17:26
Speaker 7: But I think that maybe we can come up with
17:27
Speaker 7: some you know, a set of ways that this could
17:30
Speaker 7: be done safely. But the person that we need to
17:33
Speaker 7: convince around that are the experts, and that's a job
17:35
Speaker 7: for us to do, and at the moment, that's the decision.
17:38
Speaker 7: And I totally respect all of the gyms out there.
17:41
Speaker 7: I totally respect all of those people that are you
17:44
Speaker 7: know that they rely on that for their good mental health,
17:46
Speaker 7: their good physical health.
17:48
Speaker 5: But we are we are listening. It's you know, it's
17:51
Speaker 5: a really important well, we.
17:52
Speaker 4: Are going to have to take a short break.
17:53
Speaker 3: You are listening to mix Swallow four point nine is
17:55
Speaker 3: three sixty and it is the week that was proudly
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Speaker 3: brought to you by the Silver Hebron Lawyers, your local
18:01
Speaker 3: lawyers also now broadcasting on ADHA. Well, there is certainly
18:05
Speaker 3: a lot happening around the place, and I am going
18:07
Speaker 3: to go to what looks like a bit of a
18:10
Speaker 3: slanging match. I'd have to say on social media in
18:13
Speaker 3: just a moment between the Chief Minister and the Police Association.
18:16
Speaker 3: But before we get to that, on the week that
18:18
Speaker 3: was a few quick questions around the COVID nineteen vaccination
18:22
Speaker 3: opening up to those aged over twelve years. I have
18:27
Speaker 3: had a message come through from somebody I know questioning
18:30
Speaker 3: whether all children over the age of twelve in and
18:34
Speaker 3: are able to get that vaccine. This particular person's partner
18:38
Speaker 3: works in the frontline services for Border Force and they're
18:41
Speaker 3: questioning why their children aren't actually eligible for that vaccine. Kesier,
18:44
Speaker 3: I think you also had something come through.
18:46
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've got a constituent down Beastcriept. Virginia Way who's
18:50
Speaker 6: got five children and he over twelve and he wanted
18:52
Speaker 6: to have them vaccinated. So he rang the clinic and
18:54
Speaker 6: was told that no, he can't because or can't because
18:58
Speaker 6: they were not a original descent. But having said that,
19:02
Speaker 6: Cakes just clarified it's not that their original kids or families.
19:05
Speaker 6: It's more than they're an invulnerable situation.
19:07
Speaker 5: So clarified because I've got the words here and.
19:10
Speaker 6: I thought that's okay. But this gentleman, I'm not sure
19:12
Speaker 6: where he works, but I think if the parent or
19:15
Speaker 6: parents are essential workers, I think they should be allowed
19:18
Speaker 6: to have their children vaccinated, if the family wants the
19:21
Speaker 6: children to be vaccinated, because, as you said, people who
19:24
Speaker 6: are hesitant about it.
19:25
Speaker 7: Can I say that overarching approach has been that this
19:29
Speaker 7: it's a flexible system and we respond where we can,
19:32
Speaker 7: so you know, and it's changing all the time.
19:35
Speaker 5: I remember a time you had.
19:36
Speaker 7: To be over sixty to get the first wave, or
19:39
Speaker 7: you're a frontline worker, so you can see that this
19:41
Speaker 7: is an evolving a program. And at the moment, what
19:45
Speaker 7: we've changed to is that if your children of aged
19:48
Speaker 7: between twelve and fifteen, they're eligible if they have a
19:52
Speaker 7: medical condition that increases the risk of severe COVID nineteen,
19:55
Speaker 7: so you were talking about it, severe asthma, diabetes, if
20:00
Speaker 7: they're aboriginal or Tory Strait islander, and that comes to
20:02
Speaker 7: your point before the information they were given. So at
20:04
Speaker 7: the moment, that's the new that's the next roll out
20:07
Speaker 7: if we want to say that, And I can imagine
20:09
Speaker 7: that as we go forward and as we have available vaccines,
20:12
Speaker 7: because I can tell you last night, I've got a
20:15
Speaker 7: house of six or five teenagers.
20:17
Speaker 5: And we had the conversation last night.
20:20
Speaker 7: They're all over sixteen and we booked Some of them
20:23
Speaker 7: are booked in, but some were not.
20:24
Speaker 5: I went through and tried to book them in.
20:26
Speaker 7: It's hard because there's very few appointments left because territories
20:30
Speaker 7: are snapping up appointments. And we've even talked about okay,
20:32
Speaker 7: well maybe we'll go to the doctors or.
20:34
Speaker 5: Even you know, like places like chemists to consider they
20:37
Speaker 5: can just do it.
20:38
Speaker 7: That's so if they're the considerations that we look.
20:41
Speaker 3: If there are frontline if there are children of frontline workers,
20:44
Speaker 3: or if there are people who are wondering whether they
20:47
Speaker 3: are indeed going to be able to get their kids vaccinated,
20:50
Speaker 3: is the best thing I'm suggesting at this point in
20:52
Speaker 3: time is to bring that COVID hotline and try to
20:55
Speaker 3: try to source it or try to sort it out
20:56
Speaker 3: on there. Look, we are going to ford your head
20:59
Speaker 3: because there's so much to or off on this morning. Now,
21:02
Speaker 3: it seems as a bit of a political a staush
21:05
Speaker 3: has erupted on social media overnight. The Northern Territory Police
21:09
Speaker 3: Association has jumped on Facebook and said this is barely believable,
21:12
Speaker 3: what a complete insult to those a political hard working
21:15
Speaker 3: government and non government employees out there actually keeping us safe.
21:19
Speaker 3: Now it's relating to the Chief Minister, Michael Gunner posting
21:23
Speaker 3: on his Facebook page that there will be a by
21:25
Speaker 3: election for the people of Daily on Saturday, eleventh of September,
21:29
Speaker 3: following the resignation of CLP member Ian Sloane. Michael Gunner
21:33
Speaker 3: says this by election will offer the people of Daily
21:35
Speaker 3: a choice a territory labor government who will protect the
21:39
Speaker 3: people of Daily from the COVID pandemic, or a CLP
21:43
Speaker 3: who would open up the borders and give our vaccines
21:46
Speaker 3: to see them.
21:46
Speaker 7: He's like a broken records own Facebook page.
21:53
Speaker 4: That is still.
21:58
Speaker 2: Point of exactly.
22:02
Speaker 3: Well this week, this week I will step in here
22:05
Speaker 3: because this week the Chief Minister use that same Facebook
22:09
Speaker 3: page to communicate zero cases of COVID.
22:13
Speaker 4: Now we've got to clarify.
22:15
Speaker 3: Here is the Chief Minister's page an emergency page where
22:19
Speaker 3: communication around a pandemic goes out or is it a
22:23
Speaker 3: page where he has political spin because those lines were
22:27
Speaker 3: crossed throughout the week and discussing page.
22:29
Speaker 5: Jared has a Facebook page.
22:31
Speaker 7: We all have a Facebook Facebook pages. And I tell
22:33
Speaker 7: you what, I have a right mix of everything I
22:35
Speaker 7: talk about my family.
22:37
Speaker 4: You didn't get out.
22:38
Speaker 3: Throughout the week and put out pandemic information that.
22:42
Speaker 4: People are waiting for information, then come out throw not
22:46
Speaker 4: before it goes out on those official channels. That's the
22:50
Speaker 4: big difference.
22:52
Speaker 2: Really, Michael going to can't use his Facebook page to
22:54
Speaker 2: point score on this COVID thing. We all know that
22:56
Speaker 2: COVID is here, and he needs to make sure that
22:59
Speaker 2: he uses the channels because there's lots of people who
23:01
Speaker 2: don't follow his Facebook pages. There's lots and lots of
23:03
Speaker 2: people who he's blocked from following his Facebook page, and
23:06
Speaker 2: yet this information comes out. And I think he even
23:08
Speaker 2: come out and said he used that because the government
23:10
Speaker 2: is too slow. Do you want to insult to those
23:12
Speaker 2: government works people out there trying to put the information out?
23:15
Speaker 1: And Michael Gage, we're.
23:17
Speaker 2: Going to go out and puts on his own Facebook
23:19
Speaker 2: page for spin and political points.
23:21
Speaker 5: Totally disagree with you.
23:22
Speaker 7: I have blocked people off my page because if someone
23:24
Speaker 7: wants to call me the C word online, that's very.
23:28
Speaker 2: That's very different. But we're talking about very important all territories,
23:32
Speaker 2: about zero cases. This is a very very important issue.
23:35
Speaker 2: And he's his own Facebook page for spin he should
23:39
Speaker 2: he should.
23:40
Speaker 5: Think about half an hour.
23:41
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about people listening. I'm talking about people who
23:44
Speaker 2: want to know about what's going on in the terror.
23:46
Speaker 7: I think the Chief miss has been really really clear
23:48
Speaker 7: in this. He made the presumption very clear point scoring
23:52
Speaker 7: it's out before him. He then put that post up.
23:55
Speaker 7: I put that post up, I share those toasts.
23:59
Speaker 4: Health put that information out before him.
24:01
Speaker 7: No, no, he had presumed that it had gone out immediately.
24:04
Speaker 4: He well that was not the case.
24:07
Speaker 7: Well it didn't happen, Katie, and we know that now.
24:09
Speaker 7: But if we're.
24:12
Speaker 2: Explain put because he said that the Health are too slow, Yeah.
24:15
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, you're wrong.
24:17
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, you're really wrong, because we're not going to
24:19
Speaker 7: quibble over a half an hour distance between who put
24:21
Speaker 7: out what information.
24:27
Speaker 2: Unfortunately that he came out before the official catles he
24:32
Speaker 2: needs to make sure that people are getting information as
24:35
Speaker 2: soon as possible.
24:37
Speaker 5: As we all will.
24:38
Speaker 6: Its not the first time the Chief Ministers used his
24:40
Speaker 6: for locial media issues critical amounts of.
24:45
Speaker 3: If the Chief Minister actually hadn't have done that earlier
24:48
Speaker 3: in the week, then maybe he could have gotten away
24:50
Speaker 3: with this, you know, with this post overnight sort of
24:54
Speaker 3: having a crack and pointing out those political differences. Because
24:56
Speaker 3: I take the point that you've made Cake that it's
24:59
Speaker 3: his it's his politic call Facebook page.
25:01
Speaker 4: We all get that.
25:02
Speaker 3: But so then when you take that into account, you
25:04
Speaker 3: can't actually use that same Facebook page earlier in the
25:07
Speaker 3: week to put out very important, you know, information prior
25:11
Speaker 3: to it going through those official channels. It would be
25:14
Speaker 3: one hundred percent different if he was sharing a post
25:17
Speaker 3: that you know, had come out from the Health Department
25:20
Speaker 3: and saying we've got zero new cases overnight. But when
25:22
Speaker 3: you're then directing people to that Facebook page to get information,
25:28
Speaker 3: so they're feeling as though they've got to be following
25:30
Speaker 3: that Facebook page to get that information on you know, Wednesday,
25:33
Speaker 3: through the week, and then by Thursday you've turned it
25:37
Speaker 3: into a political point scoring page. I just don't think
25:40
Speaker 3: that that's fair. And I know that politics isn't fair often.
25:43
Speaker 3: I know that, but you know, but then when you've
25:45
Speaker 3: got this situation that's now unfolding now, the Chief Minister
25:49
Speaker 3: has said he said that that the Northern Territory Police
25:53
Speaker 3: Association statement was outrageous and that they're flabbergasted that a
25:58
Speaker 3: man claiming to represent the Police has again entered the
26:01
Speaker 3: political arena to tell the Chief Minister not to not
26:05
Speaker 3: to be political for highlighting real comments he reckons. Now,
26:08
Speaker 3: the Chief Minister says, I will not be bullied or
26:10
Speaker 3: silenced by a union on how we protect Territorians from COVID.
26:15
Speaker 3: The COLP, he says, made the political decision last year
26:18
Speaker 3: that we should open our borders during Victoria's second wave.
26:22
Speaker 3: The Chief Minister goes on to say the CLP made
26:24
Speaker 3: the political decision this year we should give away our
26:27
Speaker 3: vaccines to Sydney. And he goes on to say these
26:30
Speaker 3: are political decisions by the COLP and it's a failure
26:33
Speaker 3: of leadership by the COLP.
26:35
Speaker 4: But can I just say the government actually did open
26:37
Speaker 4: the border. So I don't know.
26:44
Speaker 7: I sat right here next to Leo Finocchiaro last year
26:47
Speaker 7: who said and gave you even that day on the
26:49
Speaker 7: twentieth of June. She was if it was up to her,
26:52
Speaker 7: she would open the borders. She said that right here,
26:54
Speaker 7: and see actually I'm sitting in now. So that is
26:57
Speaker 7: a failure of leadership when you don't listen to expert advice.
27:00
Speaker 2: But that's not expert advice. The expert advices and expert
27:02
Speaker 2: advice is to open the borders and then do hotspots.
27:05
Speaker 2: So what you're doing, what you're doing, now, that's expert advice,
27:08
Speaker 2: which is what that's what people would be following. We'd
27:10
Speaker 2: follow experts advice expert.
27:13
Speaker 3: What I actually find quite disturbing about then, the chiefness
27:15
Speaker 3: of statement that's come through is it says the Northern
27:18
Speaker 3: Territory Police Association choosing to support the CLP's decision to
27:21
Speaker 3: open our borders and give away our vaccines is a
27:24
Speaker 3: failure to protect every serving officer and the Union should
27:28
Speaker 3: apologize to them. I think that is that's a step
27:31
Speaker 3: gone too far.
27:32
Speaker 8: That is not I see union has questioned is whether
27:40
Speaker 8: that page you know, whether we should be using a
27:42
Speaker 8: pandemic for political gain.
27:45
Speaker 4: Now, I am firmly of.
27:46
Speaker 3: The view that if you are performing well politically, you
27:50
Speaker 3: do not use a pandemic to points your policies.
27:54
Speaker 4: And your and your results themselves.
27:57
Speaker 7: That the post that you're complaining about that Michael Gonna
28:00
Speaker 7: put up half an hour before the health advice came out,
28:03
Speaker 7: was simply to assure Territorians those that are on his
28:06
Speaker 7: page where we were in that.
28:08
Speaker 3: Lockdown everybody about it.
28:09
Speaker 2: But at the same time.
28:13
Speaker 7: I did not get the notification that they'd gone up
28:15
Speaker 7: onto Michael's page, only those people on Facebook.
28:18
Speaker 4: Unbelievable that he didn't tell the remainder of his ministry.
28:22
Speaker 2: So you didn't even tell the ministry that were you're
28:23
Speaker 2: saying that you don't even know what's going on. That's
28:25
Speaker 2: just shows really really poor leadership.
28:27
Speaker 5: I did not see that Facebook post.
28:30
Speaker 7: We have regular meetings and we are updated, but there
28:34
Speaker 7: was a sensey and that information went out. It was
28:37
Speaker 7: to assure territorians. That's not political. That's telling you where
28:40
Speaker 7: we are in the lockdown and where things are headed,
28:43
Speaker 7: to give them some assurance. There was no political it was.
28:48
Speaker 2: It wasn't thirty minutes before. It was hours before, so
28:51
Speaker 2: you've got it. It wasn't thirty minutes. Okay, so you're
28:53
Speaker 2: actually a misleading public here. It wasn't thirty minutes. It
28:56
Speaker 2: was ours the.
28:56
Speaker 5: Bottom of your problem here that you've got a problem.
28:59
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, should correct you misleading territory and instead
29:02
Speaker 2: it was study minutes. It wasn't thirty minutes, it was
29:04
Speaker 2: hours before.
29:04
Speaker 1: They because the difference between us is only clear.
29:08
Speaker 2: So you've stop misleading territory.
29:10
Speaker 7: And we use political points scoring all the way through COVID,
29:13
Speaker 7: and then you just want to call it out and
29:15
Speaker 7: you're just a total hypocrit.
29:16
Speaker 3: I said, well, the other thing is, though, obviously the
29:18
Speaker 3: seed of daily is going to be an interesting one.
29:20
Speaker 3: Now I understand Labor have actually announced who they're running,
29:24
Speaker 3: or my understanding that missus Young, that.
29:25
Speaker 7: You Young a wonderful candidate and set out and spent
29:29
Speaker 7: a lot of time out in that area.
29:31
Speaker 4: Do we know yet, Jared, who's running for the CELP.
29:33
Speaker 2: I know that the CLP have made the advert in
29:36
Speaker 2: the paper and that they're doing a precession. I think
29:38
Speaker 2: it's this weekend, so I expect that they'd be announcement
29:41
Speaker 2: in the.
29:41
Speaker 3: Next few I'll tell you what, if the last twenty
29:43
Speaker 3: four hours or fifteen minutes is anything to go by,
29:46
Speaker 3: it's going to be an interesting It's going to be
29:48
Speaker 3: an interesting bite.
29:48
Speaker 7: And I will repeat the words of the Chief Minister.
29:50
Speaker 7: The choice is clear, oh we're not this is not
29:53
Speaker 7: a political to do that.
29:55
Speaker 3: I think the choice is we're going to take a
29:57
Speaker 3: very short break because I then want to talk about
29:59
Speaker 3: something that a lot of people are very concerned about
30:01
Speaker 3: throughout the week, and that was the situation that unfolded
30:04
Speaker 3: in Alice Springs through the week and further, yeah, further
30:08
Speaker 3: things that had happened as well when it comes to
30:11
Speaker 3: some crime out in the Palmerston region. So more on
30:14
Speaker 3: that in just a couple of moments. You are listening
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30:31
Speaker 3: throughout the week will Police arrested a man who appears
30:34
Speaker 3: to have doused himself in petrol after allegedly ramming a
30:38
Speaker 3: vehicle into the Todd Tavern in Alice Springs. Now, the
30:41
Speaker 3: thirty four year old was arrested in the CBD on
30:44
Speaker 3: Thursday morning after.
30:45
Speaker 4: He allegedly fled the scene.
30:47
Speaker 3: Police said they received reports of the incident following an
30:50
Speaker 3: altercation inside that tavern at about eleven thirty in the
30:53
Speaker 3: morning yesterday and there are where there was a male
30:56
Speaker 3: who was asked to leave the premises. Now it follows
30:59
Speaker 3: on from pretty shocking incident a couple of days earlier
31:03
Speaker 3: inside the Coles car park in Alice Springs, where a
31:07
Speaker 3: drunk driver allegedly rammed into other vehicles.
31:10
Speaker 4: A person was injured.
31:12
Speaker 3: I know, you know, obviously these incidents are not don't
31:15
Speaker 3: appear to be related in any way.
31:18
Speaker 4: But Robin Lamley earlier in the.
31:19
Speaker 3: Week, when she spoke to us, she she actually sounded
31:23
Speaker 3: pretty shattered and at her wits end.
31:26
Speaker 7: Can I say, Katie, I look, you know these two
31:30
Speaker 7: and I've seen both of the incidents. You know they've
31:32
Speaker 7: been widely spread online, and that they are not your normal.
31:37
Speaker 5: You know, that's not what you would.
31:38
Speaker 7: Get, would get up and coming, that these are not
31:42
Speaker 7: normal for Alice Springs. I've been down there regularly. I
31:45
Speaker 7: do talk to Robin, I do talk to other stakeholders
31:47
Speaker 7: and other springs. These are not normal. Please don't say that, Jared,
31:50
Speaker 7: because that's just I.
31:51
Speaker 3: Mean, they had said though they're like they She literally
31:55
Speaker 3: said to me on it the other day.
31:56
Speaker 4: Katie, we are crying out to the government to help
32:00
Speaker 4: us if you.
32:01
Speaker 5: Knock back on those factors.
32:02
Speaker 7: The two driving factors in both of those was alcohol,
32:05
Speaker 7: and I have to tell you we have to continue
32:08
Speaker 7: to do more in that space. I don't know if
32:10
Speaker 7: any of you stood outside. I'm in a shopping center
32:13
Speaker 7: when the lockdowns came this time. At last time, there
32:16
Speaker 7: were more people in the bottle shop than they were
32:18
Speaker 7: in coals And I think we need to continue to
32:21
Speaker 7: work on this space. It is something we have been
32:23
Speaker 7: committed to. We know that before COVID we did see
32:27
Speaker 7: a reduction in crime related to alcohol related crime, but
32:32
Speaker 7: during COVID and post COVID, well not post COVID, because
32:36
Speaker 7: we've still got the pandemic.
32:38
Speaker 5: That is the area we need to really.
32:40
Speaker 7: Focus on, concentrate on because that's what influences domestic violence.
32:44
Speaker 7: And as that minister with the carriage of that, we
32:46
Speaker 7: need to do better.
32:47
Speaker 5: I'm not going to sit here.
32:48
Speaker 4: We don't like we keep hearing this.
32:50
Speaker 3: You know that some of the alcohol measures are working,
32:52
Speaker 3: but is it time to go back to you know,
32:54
Speaker 3: to look at these things a bit differently. There's not
32:56
Speaker 3: actually mandatory rehab as I understand it at this point.
32:59
Speaker 3: My understanding is that you know, if that there is
33:02
Speaker 3: somebody who is highly intoxicated, obviously it's different.
33:05
Speaker 4: If you commit a crime you have to go into.
33:07
Speaker 3: The watch house and they're you know, then I'm assuming arrested,
33:11
Speaker 3: charged to go through those.
33:12
Speaker 7: Processes pick both of these offenders up really quickly.
33:15
Speaker 5: I think that's really cool.
33:16
Speaker 3: But we also have a situation though, where you know,
33:18
Speaker 3: there's literally you you either if you are somebody who's
33:22
Speaker 3: intoxicated on the street and behaving not overly, well you're
33:25
Speaker 3: either taken to the watchhouse is my understanding, or you know,
33:29
Speaker 3: if you if you are visiting town here in Darwin,
33:31
Speaker 3: I'm assuming the same in Ola Springs. If you're not
33:34
Speaker 3: taken to the watch house, then where is there to go?
33:36
Speaker 5: You get taken, Katie.
33:37
Speaker 7: There's a process and the police are doing a superb
33:40
Speaker 7: job at our Larakia.
33:41
Speaker 5: It depends on the level of intoxication.
33:44
Speaker 7: If the person's living rough, they will be picked up
33:47
Speaker 7: often by Larikiir. I went out the other night on
33:49
Speaker 7: patrol with the Larakire. They take them to the sobering
33:52
Speaker 7: up shelter. But it's not where it ends. We say
33:54
Speaker 7: that quite glibly. When they're in that well, they have
33:57
Speaker 7: a sobering up sell to there. So what happens is
33:59
Speaker 7: if it's a crime that occurs and there's alcohol and
34:01
Speaker 7: revolt involved, they go with police. If they're just drunk
34:05
Speaker 7: and just not just but they're drunk and perhaps disorderly.
34:07
Speaker 5: They go then and it's not.
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Speaker 7: A crime being taken. They go to the sobering up shelter.
34:12
Speaker 7: In the sobering up shelter, they are filled with experts
34:15
Speaker 7: at try and get these people into a program.
34:17
Speaker 5: You also forget.
34:18
Speaker 4: When you don't there.
34:22
Speaker 7: The bands Drinkers register. If you get yourself on the
34:25
Speaker 7: band drinkers Register, you absolutely need to do with the programs.
34:28
Speaker 4: And so there's the difference.
34:29
Speaker 3: Istill actually stay in that sobering up shelter or you're
34:32
Speaker 3: forced to do some kind of rehab or.
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Speaker 7: Else you stay on the band drinkers register. Absolutely you
34:37
Speaker 7: are way to get.
34:38
Speaker 1: On, except for everyone on the band Drinkers Register being forced.
34:41
Speaker 7: It depends what you're on there for. So you go
34:43
Speaker 7: on the band drinkers register. If you actually for drink driving,
34:47
Speaker 7: for example, you go on the band drinkers Register. So
34:49
Speaker 7: what that means is then the court when they're giving
34:51
Speaker 7: you a sentence around you know you've got to find
34:54
Speaker 7: they actually may mandate you have to do that as well.
35:00
Speaker 2: That should get your license back. Remember, crime out here
35:02
Speaker 2: in the territory is out of control. Look at the
35:04
Speaker 2: last speaks. The crime stacks are going up through the roof.
35:07
Speaker 2: You know, just to name a few alcohol rated assaults
35:10
Speaker 2: forty percent in Darwin, twenty seven percent in Catherine, seventy
35:13
Speaker 2: five percent in Parmesan, sixty four percent outside that major center.
35:16
Speaker 2: So territory is are crying out for crime and that
35:21
Speaker 2: needs to be more work in this space. Remember they've
35:23
Speaker 2: been in the powerful last five years and then to
35:26
Speaker 2: see the last twelve or so years before that, so
35:28
Speaker 2: our the last twenty odd years, the government have been
35:31
Speaker 2: in government for to sixteen out of twenty years. How
35:34
Speaker 2: much time do they need to be able to fix
35:36
Speaker 2: the problem. They're just going back, going down. They're getting worse,
35:41
Speaker 2: and it's territory territory.
35:45
Speaker 4: If they're going down.
35:47
Speaker 3: I challenge anybody you know to listen to that interview
35:51
Speaker 3: that I did yesterday with Shelley who owns the Coli
35:54
Speaker 3: I g A and was in that situation yesterday where
35:57
Speaker 3: their business was broken into again. She was in tears
36:00
Speaker 3: on the show as she spoke about the impact that
36:03
Speaker 3: it has. This follows on from them having around fifty
36:06
Speaker 3: thousand dollars worth of dammage earlier in the year, when
36:08
Speaker 3: all of those glass. All of the windows were smashed
36:13
Speaker 3: and alcohol obviously stolen. We also know earlier in the
36:16
Speaker 3: week Peewee's was targeted in a separate, very separate incident
36:21
Speaker 3: where they were broken into.
36:22
Speaker 4: Now I know that some people listening will.
36:24
Speaker 3: Go, Okay, well, it's property damage, you know, it's you
36:27
Speaker 3: could say that, it's not the end of the world.
36:29
Speaker 3: But it is absolute kick in the guts for people.
36:32
Speaker 4: It is bloody hard and this time to start.
36:37
Speaker 2: Listening because we're talking about alcohol related assaults. You're talking
36:39
Speaker 2: about alcohol. That's what we're talking about. Figure and I
36:43
Speaker 2: must say, the figures to do out today for the
36:45
Speaker 2: next month so interesting to see what they are. But
36:46
Speaker 2: I'm just going on to figure something.
36:48
Speaker 7: In the last right across overall in the Northern Territory,
36:52
Speaker 7: housebreakings are down there.
36:54
Speaker 2: About alcohol related Why are you trying to change some
36:59
Speaker 2: much the subject talking about alcohol related assaults?
37:09
Speaker 6: Shelly on Shelley on the show, Look this this, I've
37:14
Speaker 6: sat here before and said things most likely will get
37:18
Speaker 6: worse and we'll get we'll see real harm and hurt
37:21
Speaker 6: and people getting killed. Now we've seen that in Alice Springs.
37:24
Speaker 6: You know, the the.
37:26
Speaker 1: Fellow, the care worker.
37:27
Speaker 6: Who was I think on the motorbike, the man on
37:31
Speaker 6: Ross River Highway.
37:32
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying.
37:32
Speaker 6: They're all related to alcohol. Maybe they are, maybe they're not,
37:35
Speaker 6: but they were hit and runs. People have died. We've
37:38
Speaker 6: had someone go on a rampage in a car park.
37:41
Speaker 6: I mean it's it's it's a weapon of choice these days,
37:43
Speaker 6: when you can't get access to you know, sharp instruments
37:46
Speaker 6: and goodness knows what else, so you get behind the
37:49
Speaker 6: wheel of the car. And I think that does exceptionally
37:51
Speaker 6: more damage as we've seen down in Melbourne and places
37:53
Speaker 6: like that. So you know, forget all the good work
37:57
Speaker 6: that agencies do and and police emergency service.
38:00
Speaker 1: I mean, it puts that to aside.
38:01
Speaker 6: And that's a given, all right, that's a given very
38:03
Speaker 6: difficult circumstances. But I agree with Jared to a certain extent.
38:07
Speaker 6: And I hee you what Kate's saying. It is getting
38:10
Speaker 6: worse now. They're not necessarily drinking more or they're not
38:13
Speaker 6: necessarily taking more drugs, I don't think, but something is
38:17
Speaker 6: fundamentally wrong and everyone is working hard to address the
38:21
Speaker 6: fundamental problem. I get all that, but it is still
38:24
Speaker 6: getting worse in those smaller towns I mean, if it's
38:26
Speaker 6: ethnic Darwin, it's obviously not right on Smith Street more.
38:30
Speaker 6: But these smaller communities where there's perhaps not as much
38:33
Speaker 6: opportunity for jobs or entertainment or recreation.
38:36
Speaker 5: So this is this is enough of it.
38:38
Speaker 6: This is the recreation of choice, is getting the car
38:40
Speaker 6: and run around town and create that.
38:42
Speaker 7: You're getting to the number of it. And I said
38:43
Speaker 7: at the front, and Jared clearly wasn't listening, that alcohol
38:46
Speaker 7: is the space that we need to do more work
38:48
Speaker 7: in because we've clearly.
38:51
Speaker 5: You had your rant.
38:52
Speaker 2: You've had sixteen years to do the work.
38:55
Speaker 1: You know that.
38:56
Speaker 5: Sorry, give you one example.
39:00
Speaker 2: Do you want to get exciting right now?
39:01
Speaker 7: So in twenty sixteen, when I became elected and all
39:05
Speaker 7: the shops was being absolutely end of four years of
39:08
Speaker 7: the COLP was being ravaged by crime. I worked with
39:11
Speaker 7: all my local shop owners. We went in and we
39:14
Speaker 7: did bit secure. I had a shopkeeper that very much
39:17
Speaker 7: like this one with you're highlighting their kadium. My heart
39:19
Speaker 7: goes out to them, but was sleeping in his shop
39:22
Speaker 7: over night. We have worked with those shop owners now
39:24
Speaker 7: and that level of crime no longer occurs and we
39:28
Speaker 7: have to keep working at it. There is no silverbuller,
39:31
Speaker 7: and what Kesier says is utterly correct. Overall, a lot
39:35
Speaker 7: of these statistics are going down and they're trending.
39:37
Speaker 5: You have to look over years.
39:39
Speaker 7: You can't just look at it compared to last month
39:41
Speaker 7: because that's unfair.
39:42
Speaker 4: But we all get that.
39:43
Speaker 3: But like again, I'm just going to say that, it's
39:46
Speaker 3: like it's real cold comfort. If you are somebody who's
39:49
Speaker 3: the absolute of these crimes.
39:51
Speaker 7: Absolutely, I've had my home broken into it's cold comfort. Yeah,
39:55
Speaker 7: I know those business owners, it's cold comfort. What we
39:58
Speaker 7: have to do is keep working. But we have to
40:00
Speaker 7: have the big picture at the same time, and Keyser
40:03
Speaker 7: hit it on the head. We have got people that
40:05
Speaker 7: are generationally in poverty.
40:07
Speaker 1: Poverty, drug generations.
40:08
Speaker 7: Two generations minimum. We need to do this and and this.
40:12
Speaker 7: You have to do that hard work in the background
40:14
Speaker 7: and doesn't give you an instant outcome.
40:17
Speaker 5: It just as.
40:21
Speaker 7: Well there's also one yes generation, because will.
40:27
Speaker 3: Alice Springs listeners are going to be getting irate if
40:30
Speaker 3: I'm to give you one.
40:31
Speaker 4: There has to be a stop point, like there.
40:33
Speaker 1: Has to be a circuit breaker, that's right.
40:35
Speaker 7: And if there's not, we are targeting with operations down there.
40:39
Speaker 7: We are looking at lots more alternatives to get kids
40:42
Speaker 7: out of the city at night.
40:43
Speaker 5: It's not all crime. These two ones you've.
40:46
Speaker 7: Highlighted there were both perpetrated by our adults. We do
40:49
Speaker 7: need to look and work harder in the alcohol space.
40:51
Speaker 7: But can I tell you, I want to make sure
40:53
Speaker 7: today that nobody thinks that any of this lies with police,
40:56
Speaker 7: because both of these offenders were picked up quickly. If
40:59
Speaker 7: you compare this tris of Ala Springs to a town interstate,
41:02
Speaker 7: the same sized town has around average eighty. We've got
41:05
Speaker 7: over two hundred and fifty police officers in our springs,
41:08
Speaker 7: so it's not a matter of resources. We need to
41:10
Speaker 7: keep working in this space. We will keep working.
41:13
Speaker 5: Space I speak.
41:15
Speaker 7: We have plenty of leadership down there, and I'll tell
41:16
Speaker 7: you he's a good leader down there, and that's Robin Lamley.
41:23
Speaker 2: He does a good job.
41:25
Speaker 3: Come here, going to have to take a very short break.
41:28
Speaker 3: You are listening to Mix one O four point nine.
41:30
Speaker 3: It is well, it is the week that was brought
41:33
Speaker 3: to you by the Silver Hebron Lawyers, and we are
41:35
Speaker 3: just about to wrap up.
41:36
Speaker 4: This morning for the week that was.
41:38
Speaker 3: We're in the studio with us Jerreed Melee, Kate Warden
41:40
Speaker 3: and Kesey Epuric. But before we do this morning, we
41:43
Speaker 3: have spoken throughout the week with both Tourism Top End
41:46
Speaker 3: and also Tourism Central Australia about the impact of lockdowns
41:49
Speaker 3: on tourism, not just here in the Northern territory, but
41:52
Speaker 3: the impact that the lockdowns interstate are obviously having on
41:55
Speaker 3: tourism around the territory. And I know that in New
41:59
Speaker 3: South Wales well, they've announced a bit of a plan.
42:01
Speaker 3: We spoke briefly about this earlier about those well, a
42:05
Speaker 3: plan for vaccinated Australians and you know, involving a COVID
42:09
Speaker 3: passport to dine out and circulate freely etc. It's once
42:14
Speaker 3: they get to seventy percent of the population having those jabs.
42:18
Speaker 4: I know that the Chief Minister had.
42:19
Speaker 3: Flagged the possibility of needing a COVID passport. I guess
42:24
Speaker 3: you'd call it or a bit of a you know,
42:26
Speaker 3: whether we need that vaccine certificate to be able to
42:30
Speaker 3: show that. It's also something that Anastasia Palachet's spoken about
42:34
Speaker 3: in Queensland and also.
42:36
Speaker 4: McGowan in WA. I mean, is that the pathway forward here?
42:41
Speaker 4: I think?
42:41
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know about a lot of people listening,
42:44
Speaker 6: and I don't know about caden jery. But I've got
42:47
Speaker 6: a medical booklet because I've been to Kenyon. You've got
42:51
Speaker 6: to have yellow fever and a whole lot of other vaccinations,
42:53
Speaker 6: and you've got to be able to prove and show it.
42:54
Speaker 6: So you know, a lot of people have got these
42:57
Speaker 6: vaccination booklets that you take with you when you go
42:59
Speaker 6: overseason in your pass. And I don't think putting a
43:02
Speaker 6: vaccine from the COVID is any different to hepatitis B
43:05
Speaker 6: A and bloody whatever else we have to have. And
43:08
Speaker 6: what you do is you go, I know, you can
43:09
Speaker 6: go onto that my guv site thing. Oh and you
43:11
Speaker 6: could probably download it and stick it in your book.
43:14
Speaker 6: And I don't have an issue with that, you know, like,
43:16
Speaker 6: let's be honest. I mean, when I haven't had children,
43:18
Speaker 6: but I know when we were kids, you know, every
43:20
Speaker 6: so often we have to get sent to the clique
43:22
Speaker 6: to have your triple antigen and had our polio and
43:24
Speaker 6: had this and had that so and that was put
43:26
Speaker 6: in a little book.
43:28
Speaker 2: There's a big deal.
43:29
Speaker 3: I know there are other people that are saying, you know,
43:30
Speaker 3: it's my body, it's my choice, and why should I
43:33
Speaker 3: be made feel that I'm not allowed to do different
43:35
Speaker 3: things because I choose to not have that VACA.
43:39
Speaker 6: That's fine, you choose to vaccine, but Quantus CEO and
43:43
Speaker 6: the shareholders, they choose not to let you fly on
43:45
Speaker 6: our aeroplanes because that's going to be our policy position.
43:49
Speaker 1: We're a private enterprise. We want vaccinated people.
43:51
Speaker 5: On aeroplane leadership.
43:52
Speaker 1: So if you don't, and there's another company, some company that.
43:55
Speaker 3: Does can SPSPC SPC, here means you have a right.
44:00
Speaker 1: I also have a right, and your right is not
44:02
Speaker 1: greater than my right.
44:03
Speaker 6: But if I've got if I've got an electoral office,
44:05
Speaker 6: and I've got staff who you know up in the
44:07
Speaker 6: age brackets, and I want them to be protected, plus
44:10
Speaker 6: everyone else who comes into my office, and then if
44:12
Speaker 6: we made a rule for electoral offices.
44:14
Speaker 5: We have at the moment we have coming in or
44:17
Speaker 5: you must do.
44:17
Speaker 1: That, then that's my right.
44:19
Speaker 6: You have rights too, but you know yours are not
44:21
Speaker 6: greater than my right. So tough luck to that person
44:23
Speaker 6: who says my body, We've got.
44:25
Speaker 2: To think about show you white. And then worldwide as well,
44:29
Speaker 2: because we can't continue to lock down. We can't continue
44:31
Speaker 2: to keep ourselves separate from the world. We need to
44:33
Speaker 2: be able to get ourselves actiate, get through this and
44:35
Speaker 2: get back to what we can.
44:37
Speaker 6: All those stupid anti vaxes, they're going to die off,
44:40
Speaker 6: So t about that.
44:48
Speaker 1: Ass and they die.
44:50
Speaker 7: And if anybody grew up, you know, with people that
44:53
Speaker 7: had polio, and you see the damage it's done to
44:55
Speaker 7: people that we now vaccinate our children against that this
44:58
Speaker 7: is no different. We need to get vaccinated, you know,
45:02
Speaker 7: everybody needs to get vaccinated so that we can go
45:05
Speaker 7: back to somewhat of a normality. I don't know that
45:07
Speaker 7: we'll ever go back to being completely nor what I
45:09
Speaker 7: don't know that the gyms will ever stop wiping down
45:12
Speaker 7: their equipment.
45:13
Speaker 6: Because it's probably stopped the spread of other journeys.
45:19
Speaker 5: We just keep polio in mind people.
45:21
Speaker 7: If you know anybody, certainly my generation, my parents generation
45:25
Speaker 7: up with people with well.
45:26
Speaker 4: We are going to have to we are going to
45:28
Speaker 4: have to wrap up. Can I just dance very quickly?
45:30
Speaker 5: Though?
45:30
Speaker 3: Before we wrap up this morning? Are we rescheduling the
45:34
Speaker 3: week of parliament that was lost?
45:35
Speaker 2: Look at me, I think I think we should definitely
45:37
Speaker 2: do that, which we only work for about thirty days
45:39
Speaker 2: a year and my school, my school kids are uniform.
45:43
Speaker 2: So we need to get to parlism and get I think.
45:47
Speaker 7: Just said he only works thirty days, sixty five days
45:52
Speaker 7: a year.
45:52
Speaker 5: I can I qualify this. It should be purpose of parliament,
45:58
Speaker 5: you'll agree.
45:58
Speaker 1: Easier is to get legislation correct.
46:00
Speaker 7: We need to look at the legislative and if we
46:03
Speaker 7: need more days, let me be clear. If we need
46:06
Speaker 7: more days to get legislation through, those days will be
46:09
Speaker 7: called on or I don't mind sitting until eleven, you know,
46:13
Speaker 7: ten eleven o'clock at night. I don't whatever it takes
46:15
Speaker 7: to get that legislation through. I'm not afraid of hard work.
46:19
Speaker 7: I'm happy to do that. Working more than thirty days,
46:22
Speaker 7: ye could cay.
46:23
Speaker 6: What we could do, what the Parliament could do is
46:25
Speaker 6: we've got a week in September. We can must make
46:27
Speaker 6: that a two week session and I think that would
46:30
Speaker 6: everyone comfortable.
46:30
Speaker 4: All right, We better wrap up. Gang. Always great to
46:33
Speaker 4: have you all in the studio.
46:34
Speaker 3: Jereb Mailey, the Deputy Opposition.
46:37
Speaker 4: Wait, thank you so much for you.
46:38
Speaker 2: Thank everyone.
46:39
Speaker 3: Kate Warden, the Minister of Territory, Families and Sport and
46:43
Speaker 3: various other portfolios.
46:44
Speaker 7: Your time, and if I can just plug to everybody,
46:46
Speaker 7: make sure you get your run with because Katie can't
46:48
Speaker 7: do it. I'll get your run with Dad application and
46:50
Speaker 7: because I'll be sitting there really cold and in the
46:52
Speaker 7: morning and watching you ring for.
46:53
Speaker 3: Everybody to get into it, get onto it, and Kesier Puic.
46:58
Speaker 6: Thanks you, big shout out to all our fieries again,
47:01
Speaker 6: thank you, thank you all telling me one and volunteers.
47:04
Speaker 4: Thanks for your time this morning.
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