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Issue 316: The Bad Batch Commentary: Kamino Lost · Aggressive Negotiations: A Star Wars Podcast

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Welcome to the nerd polity. Hi. This is Nick Nastasu, story editor
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on Star Wars, The Clone Wars and Star Wars bad Batch, and you
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are listening to aggressive negotiations. This is aggressive negotiations, and I am one
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of your hosts, John Mills. I am delighted as always to be joined
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by Jedi Master Matthew Rushing as we prepare for our commentary in this episode on
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the final episode of season one of the bad Batch Camino Lost, Matt,
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are you ready for the emotional ride that we know we're about to go on?
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You know, John, just as I wasn't ready for Paradise Lost,
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I'm not ready for Camino Lost. I mean, this is this is this
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is such a good episode. I cannot wait to revisit it. I've actually
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been tempted a few times to watch it before we do this commentary just because
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and I haven't. I have not given in. I've resisted temptation, and
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so I cannot wait to jump into this episode with you. And I would
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Nerd Party over on Facebook and Instagram. And I wasn't lying at the end
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of last episode when we finished Return to Camino. That was an episode that
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ended perfectly and is exactly the way the first part of a two parter should
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end. Where when the credits went, I said, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, this is no I want the second.
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I want it now, I want it now. That is how you
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know you have master storytellers sitting there guiding you, gently, taking you through
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the process, and you know that you're about to hit something big and with
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a title like Camino lost. What happened last episode, Rampart opened the salvo
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against Camino about against Tipica City, and now we know that we're about to
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embrace that as the Batch and Omega are stranded there during the assault. So
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with that, of course, Disney Plus, mister Iger, we heard you.
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You said that you're interested in getting back to licensing and physical media.
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So I hold out hope for a four k of We're holding you to that.
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Bob. You know, I know Bob's listening because he's a huge listener,
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and I you know what, he can deny it all that he wants
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to, but I know he's listening. Yeah, that's what we should do.
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Get t shirts that say Bob Iger's favorite Star Wars podcast. You know
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what, I'm on board with him, but I'm even more on board with
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giving everybody a countdown here on Disney Plus. Que up your machines or que
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it up in your head. We're going to do our best to give you
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a theater of the mind here, as we always do. I'm going to
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countdown three, two one, And when I say the word play that means
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hit play. We're not getting around the word play means play. So here
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we go official countdown starting three two one play all right Disney plus Lucasfilm logo
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and can I love? Lucas called it Lucasfield Limited because he loved the the
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you know, burnish company sound instead of like Lucasfilm Incorporated, so much cooler,
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so much I I it is. I would say that we're both a
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little biased on that one, but hey, that's just me so touche.
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That's a that's an excellent point in and on itself. Camino lost, You
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know, I am so as the episode opened up and you hear the alarms
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and you hear the weapons, and then you get this shot of rampart just
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as they reign destruction, and it even the juxtaposition of the burning city on
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top of an ocean planet. That's one of those haunting artistic decisions that you
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just, oh, yeah, okay, I hadn't even considered that. But
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I want to draw special attention here as we're seeing, you know, they're
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running through the halls, are getting knocked around, but those exterior shots of
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the city getting hit, Yes, there's so much proper weight to everything.
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It feels like an actual structure collapsing. It's amazing to me. Yes,
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that I'm seeing better effects editing in an animated series than in a lot of
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I mean Marvel shows or current Marvel movies. Yes. Well, and a
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part of this too is that, you know, we've talked so much about
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the lighting and the cinematography and everything like that that they do in this show,
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and I think this episode encapsulates everything that we've talked about in this entire
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season of all that they've learned in Star Wars, animation is coming to fruition
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here in this episode where they are probably doing the hardest things that they've ever
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done, which is the destruction of entire city on a water planet, and
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then, like you said, trying to create that way eat to make it
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feel real, and just seeing a clone trooper deliver the report to Rampart,
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but just drills in that that's not enough, is well, it's not enough
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to serve the Empire. You have to you have to show such complete loyalty
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to them, even as they're destroying something that you love, that's your your
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own home. It's a very Soviet Union sort of thing. Oh yeah,
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you know, Comrade Stalin is the greatest Stalin's dead. Oh I hate Comrades
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Stalin it's all about the next guy, so, which is funny because actually
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the new seasons of Season of Jack Ryan was kind of about that season three,
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so there's a lot of that in there. But no, I think
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you're one hundred percent right that, uh you know, this is I think
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one of the reasons, and this really I think blaze an incredible foundation as
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to why, you know, as we'll move into this season two, why
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so many clones are, they begin to question order sixty six, they begin
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to question what's going on? Oh exactly, exactly, Yeah, the moment
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the Empire overplays its hand quote unquote and playing into that whole idea of oh,
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well, they're gonna wake up and it's gonna make a difference, and
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that soul crushing realization of no, they'll just wake up and realize they should
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have woken up previous right to this moment. But something I just I don't
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know if we've hit on this before or what we've realized or anything like that,
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but it just hit me and I feel like it's the first time I've
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I've recognized it. But the design of the droid, the bottom part of
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him, is actually reminiscent of the black Hole, which was a Disney movie
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that came out. That's a good point. Yeah, if you look at
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the way it's a reminiscent of Max and Bob. Yeah, it's a good
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point. Dang it. If this is the first time I'm recognizing that,
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I could kick myself because I love that movie The Black I've even I'm even
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one of the ten people in the world. Read the novelization by Alentine Foster
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from Wow That's all Yeah, so again too, as the city sinks into
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the water. The fact that you have fire and water and smoke and all
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of these things happening with the lighting and the animation, it's just it's an
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incredible testament to everything that they've learned, because I mean, when you think
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all the way back to the Clone War Season one, there's absolutely no way
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they would have been able to do this, right, Oh No. And
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the beauty too of this right here, Omega is saving crosshairs life a man
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who has tried to hunt her down and kill her basically, and she saves
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his life. And I think there's something just so absolutely beautiful about that idea,
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and I think it sets up a beautiful arc then for us to go
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on as we look towards you know, season two. So that's beautiful writing
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in the sense that they're not just thinking about this season, where they're thinking
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about the next season already, which is pretty awesome, Yes it is.
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And the the idea here too of Crosshair sliding down on his back, completely
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helpless, and he's still he's still having trouble letting go of his loyalty,
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right even in this moment, and even though Hunter's face is covered, you
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can hear in the vocal performance almost like I can't believe you, man,
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like they open fire, they're destroying the city like yish, you know,
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and then you're on it man like, yeah, you're you're here. They
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don't care about you. This is how little they care about you. All
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you are as an asset to the Empire, whether you're a clone, a
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droid, or a citizen, all you are is oh sorry, I have
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to stop the the cloning facilities themselves shorting out. I just that's a beautiful
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thing in and of itself, just and I think tragic beauty. Yeah.
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What makes it so tragically beautiful is the idea of all of its omega and
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it's the bad batch here watching where they were born die you know, and
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those those cloning tubes are still full of clones, yes, you know,
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and everything everything is dying here and then and they're watching it happen because and
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the clear subtext is not only is their home going away, not only are
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those clones in the tubes dying, but they're they're never going to be.
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There's never going to be anymore like this is they're seeing the moment that is
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the literal end of possibly ever having more brothers. Yeah, be born.
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Yeah, it's a good point. This is the end of that. Even
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if there are other cloners out there, it will never This is going to
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seem like I'm putting in a jokey way, but like the secret recipe is
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gone after this. Yes, well, Django dies and then everything's over.
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And then what makes that so interesting is because Omega would be the key to
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creating more clones, because she's a first generation clone unaltered, and therefore her
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DNA would allow cloners of the caliber of Camino Wins to be able to create
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more clones. So we're really setting up to just how much of an importance
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she still is to the story, especially if people were to find out about
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who she is. But even that idea too, just and we've touched on
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this before, just that so long as she and Boba Fette are alive,
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they're extremely special. They're extremely special because, like you said, they're the
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key. So long as they're alive, it's it's the spark of Camino is
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there as monstrous is what the camon Owens do. Honestly, you know,
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there's still that sort of you know, the Django's legacy is alive, the
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clones legacy is alive. They're all so long as they're alive, like the
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importance of carrying on and you know, memory and tradition and the past feeding
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into the present in the future, like that's all there. I also really
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love this whole idea of you know, Crossair and Hunter having this argument about
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you know, soldiers follow orders and Hunters saying, well, blind allegiance is
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not allegiance at all, you know, and this, this, this is
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the key argument between these characters, and this is what it means to actually
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have choice and free will instead of only being able to follow orders. And
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Crosshair additionally, they're all going to die here because of your failed leadership.
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You can tell. Crosshair feels like if everybody had just been better clones,
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the Empire wouldn't have felt the need to do this. He still isn't seeing
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that the this was what was going to happen, no matter what they happen
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to be a part of this story. But even if they didn't exist,
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this is exactly what the Empire was going to do exactly. Yeah. Well,
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and I like what you're saying. They're about him, you know,
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thinking that if they had just been better clones, you know, they the
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problem is is they're made exactly what they were meant to be, which is
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they can think independently, you know, which makes them superior to droits.
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Yes, and that's exactly why they all had the chips installed in the first
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place, right, It's because Palpatine absolutely do that they would be a problem
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if they were doing exactly what Clone Force ninety nine and other clones are doing.
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And Palpatine was always thinking of robbing the possibilities of problems for himself.
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As obi Wan says to Luke, the Emperor knew as I did, if
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Annakin were to have any offspring, they would be a threat to him.
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Exactly. Palpatine knows the clones are a threat. They eventually all have to
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go away and we get back there's the argument again, Recker trying to make
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Crosshair Sea sense, and we double back to an argument we had in the
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very first episode of Tech being the one saying, Oh, it's just his
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nature, that's just who he is. So in a sense, what's bizarre
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is Tech is this um you know, uh, you know, like a
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determinus sort of mindset where it's like, if you boil his argument down,
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the Batch is doing what they do, not because of what we're talking about
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with free will, but because that's just in their nature to do it.
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Across is just doing what's in his nature to do it. So Tech,
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i think, is a classic example of somebody who gets to an end point
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but takes a different path from what I would or what Hunter did or what
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Record did. And it's interesting because that shows that everybody can get to the
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same point, but they don't all. You know, again, to call
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back to a line from from from another character in the Live action Original Trilogy,
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you know when when when Leigh is talking to Luke about Han, you
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know, he has to follow his own path, no one can choose it
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for him, right, Yeah, Well, and that's such an important thing
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too, when you think about these characters in particular, is this idea of
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nature and nurture, right, And one of the things that made the Clones
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different was because of their association of being led by Jedi. And yes,
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you know we see that from the very beginning. The very first episode of
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the Clone Wars that you know was broadcast on television was Yoda telling the Clones
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how individual they are in spite of the fact that they look the same,
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look sort deceiving, don't trust them, right, And it's it's really about
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their personalities there and all of these things. And I think that's that's the
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thing that makes this so special and really cool, is that we've been we're
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actually watching the progression of themes that's started all the way back at the very
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first episode of the Clone Wars. M and I want to give a special
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nod to the fact that we had a big old sea creature because one of
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my favorite things about Star Wars from the very start was the presence of just
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weird ass creatures that would just show up because that is actually how the world
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works, where you just trust me, I live in a place where you're
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going along. He's like, oh, look, a venomous snake. Yeah
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cool. Oh crocodile No, no, we're alligator alligators, so there are
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some crocodiles, but that's mainly because of jabronies. That. Yeah, the
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typical story. This will make a good pet Oh, I beg to different
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champion. I I love that cross we reintroduce everything about what's important about this
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last because Crosshair hasn't been in it yet. So I think it's terrific.
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Because it's a two parter, it gives you that refresher. Basically, it's
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an inscript reason to recap what somebody might not remember from the previous episode,
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which is very good television episodic explanation. You know, any long running show
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has to be able to work back in an explanation that's not going to annoy
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the people who do remember, but also edify the people that don't right well,
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And I think the other part is that it does help the entire audience
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remember that Omega herself is very special and is a key to this whole thing,
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and that as we move, you know, through this episode and then
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and on into season two, keeping her safe is really important. And this
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argument between Crosshair and Hunter again, you know, this is what happens when
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you let a kid call the shots, well, Crosshair you were following,
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Like, Crosshair, is that that member of the party, And I will
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decide whether to bleep this or not. Who just constantly does all they do
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is complain, complain, complain, and it's never good And if there's a
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problem, oh yeah, well what did you expect? What's gonna happen.
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It's like people like this are in every group and you just every so often
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feel like looking at them and going, you know, you went along with
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it, so maybe just shut your mouth, just be quiet for a hot
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minute. So it's like I can understand Hunter, Like what's really going on
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in Hunter's heart is he just wants to sock Crosshair in the face really hard.
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Well, And I think the thing that makes this so difficult, right,
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And even as a viewer, we are so frustrated because we want this
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character to see the light of day, right, And very few times in
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Star Wars have we seen a character continue to choose evil in light of everything
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that this character is being shown. And that's a difficult place to be.
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And I think it's an important subject for Star Wars approach, which is to
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see that there are going to be people who continue to choose this, and
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that's all of the people who like a rampart, right, they're choosing this
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because that's what they want, They desire, what the power that it's going
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to give them. They believe in it for that reason, you know.
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And what's interesting is that Crosshair has reasons that are driven by the fact that
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he can't choose otherwise because his and his connection to the Empire and the Emperor
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and his mission have been accentuated through manipulation of his brain. And so then
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the question becomes with this episode specifically, what will it take to break this
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man so that he would choose? Hm, you know, scary exactly,
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And that's kind of a scary thought. Yeah, And but there there is
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again, there is that idea that you, if you truly love somebody,
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you have to be patient with them even when they're being a dumbass. Yeah,
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sorry, true, And that's that's essentially the theme of Crosshair here in
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season one is even if the person is being and if we're called to love
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all, serve all, then aren't we supposed to be patient with everybody?
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Right? Well, and even even if they disagree with us on the core
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principles of things. Aren't we supposed to be patient? Yeah? Well,
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I think that also is a good reminder for ourselves, right, is that
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many a times we're the people that people are having to put up with in
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love and so um well not me, never me, I'm I'm I'm always.
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I mean, you know it's a burden, It's it's a joyous burden
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though. Yeah, yeah, you know that's what it is. Zee,
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you just agreed, thank you. Yes, yes, if you took that
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as agreement, then it makes me as buoyant as a medical capsule going up
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to the surface of Camino. Yeah. This is this is great. I
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love this. This is so Star Wars. It's actually reminds me slightly of
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the whole Indiana Jones and the keenia of the crystal skull. Let me get
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in the refrigerator, right, you know, just so many people angry by
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talking fact, but I mean it's the same kind of moment. I mean,
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come on, the prospect of their survival here is just as bad as
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Indie in a refrigerator. Well, and introducing the peril that of Omega,
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like we look, I won't lie. We all care so deeply about Omega.
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By this point, this scene where where the Droid has to rescue her.
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This is your ultimate test as a viewer. Yeah, and I like
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that. That's a bad way to put it, I guess. But the
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ultimate test of is this show succeeding in making me care about that character is
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when this happens, did I feel fear? Did I did I sit there
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and care very much about what? Yes, and I still do while we're
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watching it. I mean, I hate I hate when cards like this get
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pulled. And I'm not trying to pull this card, but yeah, you
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know, being a dad and like thinking of what a kid is going through
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trapped, you know, you wouldn't ever want a kid to go through this
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under any circumstances. Yeah, and I think that's a really good line from
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the Droid. Your path is clear. I've completed my objective, but your
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path is clear. That's a classic Star Wars line. There's there's added meaning
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to that, and this is this is also classic Star Wars. Right,
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I'm going to choose to do the much more difficult thing, which is self
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sacrifice to save a friend, And um, I think that's that's such an
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interesting point here in the story. And I think one of the things is
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that it shows you just how much this character has learned right from the clones
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that she's been spending all her time with. I also love here that Crosshair
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repays his debt, so he's not, you know, Mega's debt anymore,
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because I don't think he could stay at it if he was. I also
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love the shot of Wrecker drawing his gun on Crosshair. Yes, that's fantastic.
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Trust but verify always always, Well, he's already said, you guys
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are wrong, I'm right, the empires the best, screw you guys,
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and so it's like, of course you shouldn't trust him. But the thing
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is, even even the shot composition of them talk about going to the Marauder
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and everything, the camera is placed so that we see Crosshair in the foreground
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and we can tell on his expression it's there's great conflict in him. How
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does he feel about what's happening right now? I sense great conflict in you?
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Yeah, there is no conflict, obi one once the thought as you
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do, um, I just that I would say that this shot over Omega's
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shoulder looking at the smoke on the water, and I will resist singing that
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line as hard as it is. That shot very evocative of the Jedi temple
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burning and this shot of all of them looking out classic family shot in Star
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Wars. This is the type of shot I would I would be like,
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yeah, frame that for me, even with old sour Puss Crosshair in the
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background. M hm, So difficult decision, yeah, I And it's so
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and again like the writing again, why can't I get this on other live
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action shows and multiple properties. You know, we have different things. That
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doesn't mean we need to be enemies. It's like, Wow, look a
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terrific lesson for people to learn, regardless of your age. Well yeah,
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no, I think it's it's one of the most poignant lessons of this entire
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season, and it speaks directly to the situation that we're in now and the
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situation that we've seen throughout history, right, And that's that's the issue that
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has been created, especially with the Empire, which is that if you're not
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for me, you're against me. It's exactly what Anakin said to Obi one
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on most of Arden, and that's what happened. So I gotta ask you,
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as Omega turns and you know you're still their brother, Crosshair, you're
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my brother too? What what? I just soul crushing line for somebody to
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hear right, like talk about kill him with kindness sort of thing. But
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I got to ask you when this scene happened, was your first thought,
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Okay, Crosshair's back next season, or was it how's he going to get
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it? Like? What where were you with his fate? I actually really
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loved his fate. Actually, I thought it was great because it was one
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of the first times that Star Wars had gone in the direction of no redemption
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for this character at least yet. So and here's another question. When you
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saw this shuttle come in and where it landed, did you also have a
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giggle and then oh my gosh, Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh,
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Oh my gosh, are they doing it? Are they doing it? Did
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you have the same reaction? Yes, Yes, there's a lot to love
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in this whole thing. There were republic commandos uh. And we are here
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on Mount Tantis uh and you are leading a camino and scientist there, which
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immediately makes you think of the fact that the Empire is very interested in controlling
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cloning still, which of course ties all the way to the sequel trilogy.
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Uh. And of course even the Mandalorian too. So um, I think
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it's amazing. It's it's such a good end. It's a fantastic end,
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and it's I when when I saw them flying in, it was it was
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literally such a like such a giddy love mark moment where I saw it and
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I said, I cannot believe I'm seeing what I'm seeing. It is akin
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to when Rebels brings thrown in and I go, no, really is that
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like, don't don't you toy with me? Don't you toy with me?
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You made this what I think it is? And I yeah, and yes,
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the whole idea of how each piece can be even better than the last,
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but also in its superior nature help support and enrich what came before.
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Bad Batch with that one scene all of a sudden makes itself so integral to
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the entire story. This is this is beyond world building. This is now
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key piece of the puzzle build and you know it's a key piece of the
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puzzle just in that one scene. Well, and I think the beauty of
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this is that it became very clear to me with the Bad Batch especially,
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but even things that we were doing with The Mandalorian is that these series were
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ways that we could tie things together more cohesively throughout all of Star Wars again,
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from the prequel trilogy all the way to the sequel trilogy, that this
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was trying to find ways to make all of these things make sense, and
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to me, that's really fun. But more importantly than that, I think
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the bad Batch succeeds in creating a story which is interesting to follow because of
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the place that these characters are in. And what's great about this series is
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just about you know, the only other series that's like this, right is
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Rogue one and and Or in the sense of like they had characters to which
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we had no idea what their history is going to be, and therefore you're
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watching it and you're thinking, where is this going to go? What's going
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to happen to them? Because anything can happen to them, And so I
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love that about this show. And again, as we look towards the you
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know, season two, now, the fact that you know, season two
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has started for us, we're really enjoying that season and a lot of these
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thematic elements are playing out even further in that season. It's fantastic and so
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hopefully you know, everybody's enjoyed the fact that we've been doing these commentaries and
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you know, I'm excited to dive into some other Star Wars topics, but
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this was a lot of fun. I agree, and I will cap off
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what you're saying by saying that bad Batch does not presume its role and it's
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importance. It earns it. And that is what makes it a phenomenal show.
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Is this is not something being released that says, yeah, you have
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to care about it because you know it's got the label on it. It's
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saying I'm going to earn your love, and it does. And that's why
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rewatching season one, especially as season two is underways, has been such an
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incredible treat. But a real treat, Matt, is when people interact with
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you online. So where can people find you? Out there on the wilds
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of the Internet. So you can find me all over the place on social
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media. The name you'll want to look for as Matt Rushing zero two,
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Twitter, Instagram, Letterbox, and Vero are the places that I am most
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active and so I'd love to interact with you in any of those places.
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You can also find me here on the network with a completed show called owl
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Post with Drey Kaufman talking through every single chapter of the Harry Potter series one
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chapter at the time, and then over on the TF Network doing a lot
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of shows. One is the six O two Club. John Mills is a
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frequent guest over there, as well as the bonus shows that we do together
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Snyder Cuts as well as assembling Avengers, so please look for that. You
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can also find me doing literary treks about the books and the comics of Star
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Trek, the Orb about Star Trek, d Space nine or five about Star
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Trek, Enterprise, Saddle Up about Strange New Worlds, and the Artificial Tango,
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which we are now covering right We are currently covering the third season of
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Star Trek Card, so you want to check that out. But John,
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you know, maybe people want to lament the loss of Camino with you.
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Where can they find you? Oh, you can find me as Kessel Junkie
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and unaltered Clone making his way on the wilds of the Internet. A lot
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of times, though, I'd say that it's more fun to hang out on
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Letterbox. That's really the social network that I'm sort of like. Even when
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I give up other social networks for a time, Letterboxes when I stick on
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because you just talk about movies and I love to do that. And speaking
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of talking of movies. You can also find me here on the network,
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co hosting a show called house Lights where we look at the work of directors
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through different lenses as phases, blah blah blah. We come up with all
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sorts of crazy combinations because let's be honest, we're doing this for the love
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of the game, so why not find a reason to love the game?
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And with that said, Master Rushing, I think it's time to close these
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negotiations. John, negotiations are closed. Join the revolution, Join the nerd Party.