Latest / Unbalanced with Cerys Davage / 61. LGMD Conference Recap!
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- 0:10Hello everyone, welcome back to another episode of Unbalanced
- 0:14with Me, Kerry Savage. I've been waiting so long for
- 0:17this one. I'm back from Florida and I'm
- 0:20back from the Limb Girdle Muscular Dystrophy Conference in
- 0:24Orlando, and I'm here today to tell you all about it.
- 0:28This episode is in two parts today.
- 0:31So the first half I'll be just kind of dissecting the
- 0:34conference in my own words, just my own experiences from it.
- 0:39And then the second-half is quite a last minute idea I had
- 0:43whilst I was out there. But it's a little speed dating
- 0:47kind of vibe where I meet a few people that were at the
- 0:51conference and we get to hear a bit about their stories and what
- 0:55the conference means to them. So stay tuned for that later on
- 0:59just for a few interviews. I wish I thought of this earlier
- 1:02in the conference and therefore had the chance to meet so many
- 1:06more people on the podcast. But unfortunately, the weekend
- 1:10itself was just such a whirlwind and everyone was so busy.
- 1:14You know, like when you're there, you want to catch up with
- 1:16so many people, you want to meet so many people.
- 1:19They were talks on all day in different rooms.
- 1:21So it was actually quite difficult to sit down and record
- 1:24with people. And then by the time the
- 1:26conference finished that day, we just want to relax and hang out
- 1:30by the pool or go for food or whatever.
- 1:32So there are there are a few people that would have loved to
- 1:35have on the podcast, but they did make an appearance on my
- 1:38vlog. So if you haven't checked out my
- 1:40YouTube, I vlogged the whole week, not just the conference.
- 1:45I vlogged my experiences in Florida, exploring a bit around
- 1:49Florida, a bit of the hotel where we stayed and where the
- 1:52conference was. Obviously the conference itself,
- 1:55I tried to get as much footage as I could.
- 1:58And also Disney World. I did Disney World for one day.
- 2:01So we're going to start off today with this podcast just to
- 2:05go a bit deeper into what the conference actually was.
- 2:09And for you guys at home who maybe didn't get a chance to
- 2:12come to the conference this year, I kind of want to just
- 2:15share my experiences of it. Obviously, I'm not going to be
- 2:18able to talk about absolutely everything that was there
- 2:20because I couldn't attend every single talk.
- 2:23This is just, you know, my own point of view and something I
- 2:27didn't really get a chance to do as much in the vlog.
- 2:29And something I wanted to say for this podcast was to actually
- 2:33talk about it. It's just so weird that it's
- 2:35already done. You know, when you anticipate
- 2:37something for so long, when you've been looking forward to
- 2:40something for months and months and then it's suddenly just
- 2:44overweight. It's like I'm back in Cardiff,
- 2:46it's all done. But hopefully this won't be my
- 2:49last. This was my first LGMD
- 2:52conference. It is just an incredible
- 2:55experience. I have been to A2 I conference
- 2:57before in Iowa. SO2I if you guys don't know is
- 3:01my LGBT subtype. But this conference is for all
- 3:05the subtypes. So you've got all the two
- 3:09somethings which are now known as R something because R stands
- 3:13for recessive. So with LGMD you've got dominant
- 3:17and recessive. And I am a recessive type of
- 3:21LGMD. I know it's referred AS2I.
- 3:24It's also now referred to as R9 because one and two for LGMD, 1
- 3:29was dominant and two was recessive.
- 3:31And we went through the letters, but then obviously we ran out of
- 3:34letters for #2. So now we go through R as
- 3:39recessive and then go through the numbers instead.
- 3:41So I is the 9th letter of the alphabet.
- 3:45So I am R9 recessive 9. So 2 I, otherwise known as R9 is
- 3:51my LGMD. So a lot of the talks in the
- 3:56conference were science based and to try and help people get
- 4:00more of an understanding of their own condition and other
- 4:03people's conditions. I thought it was really
- 4:05interesting to not just learn about my own condition.
- 4:09I'm not a scientific person at all, and every time I do go to a
- 4:13conference or speak to a specialist, I just learn a
- 4:16little bit more every time, and I'm gradually building up my
- 4:19knowledge. It's really difficult to kind of
- 4:22let everything sink in all at once, and it's difficult to
- 4:25learn everything at once. But I think with some time you
- 4:29do get used to knowing a bit more about your own condition
- 4:34just scientifically and how it works scientifically.
- 4:36What was incredible about this conference was that you had so
- 4:40many different subtypes, and Tristan actually said something
- 4:44quite funny. This is his first conference
- 4:45ever for LGMD and it was just us two that went.
- 4:50And he said that he noticed that everyone was asking each other
- 4:55when they were meeting each other.
- 4:56What's your subtype? It's almost like asking people
- 4:58what's your pronouns like, hi, I'm Karis.
- 5:01I'm two I what's your subtype? But I thought it was really
- 5:05interesting how the demographic really ranged age wise.
- 5:11You know, you have people from kids, you teenagers, young
- 5:14adults up to adults and you had families and grandparents.
- 5:18And yeah, it was just, it was just incredible to see the range
- 5:21of ages, but also found it interesting to see the range of
- 5:26mobility aids that were being used there.
- 5:28You know, you had young people in wheelchairs, but then you
- 5:32also had old people maybe just with like a stick or a crutch or
- 5:35something. So the symptoms really vary from
- 5:39subtype to subtype. And like I've mentioned before,
- 5:42there are different types of onsets.
- 5:44You can get more aggressive forms of LGMD and you can get
- 5:47kind of later onset versions. So I have the later onset
- 5:50version which is homozygous, which is actually means that my
- 5:53symptoms don't start from really young, they start a little bit
- 5:56later in life. And like you guys know, my
- 5:59symptoms didn't start until I was a teenager.
- 6:01So it was really cool to see so many young people using mobility
- 6:06aids and I just felt so represented and it was so weird.
- 6:10Throughout the entire week, people would gradually start
- 6:13arriving at the hotel and I'd know instantly if they were
- 6:16there for the conference because either they had a mobility aid
- 6:19or they walked like me, you know, they walked with a bit of
- 6:22a waddle. And it was just so nice to
- 6:25finally feel represented. I finally felt like being home
- 6:30in a way, which is really weird because obviously it was a new
- 6:32place full of people that I never met or maybe some people
- 6:36that I've met before. But I just truly, you truly do
- 6:40feel a sense of belonging there because there's more of us and
- 6:44there's less of them. When you're out in the real
- 6:47world, you can feel like the only one that's alone.
- 6:49You can feel like the only one that's going through what you're
- 6:52going through. But when you're at these events
- 6:55like these conferences, there is truly a sense of community and a
- 6:59sense of belonging because everyone just gets it.
- 7:02Everyone knows exactly what you're going through.
- 7:05We've all had these very similar experiences.
- 7:08And so it just feels like you finally are not the minority
- 7:13anymore. You're not the only one
- 7:15struggling. You're there with everyone else.
- 7:18And it's actually the non disabled people that were the
- 7:21minority in that weekend because it was mostly people with LGMD
- 7:25and they are my people. Honestly.
- 7:27Like it's just been so nice to meet people and not have to
- 7:32explain anything. Not have people coming up to me
- 7:35asking oh what happened if I'm in a wheelchair, just people who
- 7:38get it. And that's truly the main take
- 7:41away I've had from this weekend is that community is so
- 7:45important and as expensive and as tiring as that trip was for
- 7:50me, it was so worth it and I would do it over again in a
- 7:53heartbeat because there is truly nothing like it.
- 7:56It was absolutely incredible. So the conference was on Friday
- 8:01evening to Saturday, So Friday evening was just the
- 8:04registration and a chance for people to meet for the first
- 8:08time and to get to know each other.
- 8:10So it was like a welcome reception mixer kind of thing.
- 8:13So the Speak Foundation are the hosts of this conference and the
- 8:18work they're doing is absolutely incredible.
- 8:19And they put together this conference so well, as they do
- 8:23every year apparently. But yeah, it was just so nice to
- 8:27actually meet people. And I've said this on my blog,
- 8:30it's just been so nice to meet people that I've been talking to
- 8:33online for so long, and I actually had a chance to meet
- 8:36them in person. And we just instantly clicked.
- 8:40And I met so many amazing incredible people and we just
- 8:43clicked and it was just so lovely.
- 8:45The Saturday was quite a full on day and I hosted 2 talks.
- 8:52So right at the beginning we had a little intro session in the
- 8:55main hall, some scientific talks.
- 8:58And I want to say as well that all the main talks from the main
- 9:03ballroom, the main hall are all available online to watch with
- 9:07their PowerPoint presentations. Which is great for me because I
- 9:11could not keep up with the pace and write everything down.
- 9:14My hand would have fallen off. And the information there is so
- 9:19critical, you know, if you do want to learn more about your
- 9:21condition and about clinical trials that are going on, which
- 9:25is so exciting. It's all available to watch
- 9:28online Now it's it's finally up. So I will leave a link to that
- 9:31YouTube video down in the description because I think it's
- 9:35a really good opportunity if you didn't get a chance to go to the
- 9:38conference to catch up on the main talks that were happening.
- 9:42I did find it quite science heavy as someone who just
- 9:45struggles to understand it all. But I think every time I do go
- 9:50to a conference, like I said, I, I chip away my, my knowledge for
- 9:54this and I just kind of build up a little bit more every time.
- 9:58But like I said, this is more interesting because it wasn't
- 10:01just talking about two I. There was a lot of talks on
- 10:06different clinical trials that were going on and research into
- 10:10cures. And actually in one of the main
- 10:13talks about that, they used our 92 I as the example, the prime
- 10:18example for that, which is great for me because that's my
- 10:21condition. So I know that right now that
- 10:24there are two main trials going on for two I and that's the
- 10:27ribotol trial, which is some kind of white powder that you
- 10:31put in your food, very similar to D ribose, but it's actually
- 10:35way stronger and way more beneficial.
- 10:38So there's a trial going on for that right now, which I'd love
- 10:41to enter once a space opens up for me.
- 10:44And so I'll definitely keep you posted on that.
- 10:46And there's also a gene therapy trial going on as well at the
- 10:50beginning of the conference as well.
- 10:52There was also a moment of silence held for a 2D patient
- 10:56who recently died from complications from a clinical
- 11:01trial. So it was just really nice to
- 11:04honour that patient and for us to all kind of come together as
- 11:08a community to recognise what comes with doing a clinical
- 11:11trial. You know, when you do a clinical
- 11:14trial, for example, gene therapy, you are signing up to a
- 11:17lot of potential complications. But I think it's a true sign of
- 11:23determination to find a cure not for yourself, but for other
- 11:27patients, for future generations with your condition.
- 11:31And it's just taking another step towards a brighter future
- 11:34for people with LGMD. So for those guys who are a part
- 11:38of a clinical trial and if you watching are a part of a
- 11:41clinical trial, honestly my hat goes off to you because it's
- 11:45just it is a big commitment and you are really helping out the
- 11:49medical teams that are researching but also giving hope
- 11:52for patients like me that they can be a cure and a treatment
- 11:56for LGMD. One day.
- 11:58After the morning talks, which are all available online, we
- 12:02then had some breakout sessions and this is where my first talk
- 12:06held place. I spoke with Johnny Favour about
- 12:10adapted driving. It was actually in the same
- 12:13session as the Life Hacks talk. So the Life Hacks talk took
- 12:17place first and then it was me and Johnny talking about adapted
- 12:21driving. So Johnny is obviously from the
- 12:24US and most people, they were from the US.
- 12:26So he was talking about his experiences with getting an
- 12:30adapted vehicle in the US. And I was talking about my
- 12:33experiences in the UK. And I completely forgot while I
- 12:36was planning this that most people would not be from the UK.
- 12:41And I forgot to translate some words like boot is trunk in
- 12:46America. And I just completely forgot
- 12:49about that. So I was talking about having a
- 12:50big boot. And I hope people actually
- 12:52understood what I was trying to say.
- 12:54And so yeah, that was really fun, really interesting.
- 12:58Apparently that talk was completely full and there were
- 13:00people waiting outside the room to get in because it was such a
- 13:05popular talk. I don't know.
- 13:07But it was just so nice to see a big turn out and to have some
- 13:11really positive feedback come from that, which was so nice.
- 13:15And not long after that, after lunch, I hosted the youth
- 13:19session with Serena, who you will meet on my vlog.
- 13:24If you haven't already, go check out my vlog, also linked below.
- 13:27But yeah, Serena and I just kind of hosted a little chat and it
- 13:31was really informal. It wasn't like a sit down
- 13:34presentation. It was just a sit down chat.
- 13:36It was just a chance for us young people maybe going through
- 13:40college or work for the first time just to get together and to
- 13:45talk about issues, actually a lot of them that I talk on my
- 13:49podcast, but issues that us young people face with this
- 13:52extra barrier of having LGMD. So it's just really nice to
- 13:56connect with them and just get to know each other a bit deeper
- 14:00and have a yap and that's what I do best.
- 14:03So that was really lovely and the feedback for that was great
- 14:06as well. As for these talks, the youth
- 14:09session definitely wasn't recorded.
- 14:11I'll let you guys know if there is a recording of the adapter
- 14:14driving session. I'll keep you posted on that.
- 14:17I'm not 100% whether there is a recording anywhere to be found,
- 14:21but I will definitely keep you guys updated.
- 14:24Yeah, there were more breakout sessions after that.
- 14:27So things like how to navigate mental health when it comes to
- 14:32having LGMD, how to navigate exercise and nutrition.
- 14:37And I went to that session, the exercise one, and that was
- 14:40really full as well. So I was right at the back and
- 14:43I, I think I kind of was quite overwhelmed from doing the talks
- 14:47and I was just a bit like in my own world and a bit tired at
- 14:50that point. But I did manage to pick up that
- 14:53it is important to tailor your exercise to your yourself, to
- 14:57your own body, to always check your exercises with a
- 15:02neuromuscular specialist or a physiotherapist, because every
- 15:07exercise is going to be different and it's going to work
- 15:10different for everyone. So I think it's easy to just
- 15:14slap on some YouTube tutorial on like an AB workout, but it
- 15:17actually might be damaging for us with LGMD.
- 15:20So I think it's really important to really work with someone who
- 15:24understands your condition and to understand how LGMD works to
- 15:30be able to tailor a good exercise regime that works for
- 15:33you. And another good thing about
- 15:35LGMD is that it really keeps us on our toes when it comes to
- 15:39progressing and we constantly have to adapt our routines as
- 15:43well. So that's really important.
- 15:45And the specialist also mentioned that it's not just
- 15:48about having a good exercise regime, it's also about having a
- 15:53good quality of life, which sounds easier said than done.
- 15:56But I think she was saying that, you know, having good mental
- 15:59health is also an important part of managing LGMD symptoms and
- 16:05having a good, like, diet and things.
- 16:07But again, these are all things that you need to just consult
- 16:11with a specialist because they're the ones that are going
- 16:14to be able to give the best advice.
- 16:16So yeah. And then after that, in the
- 16:18evening, they were kind of breakout parties for all the
- 16:23different subtypes to get together.
- 16:25So I went obviously to the Cure LG D2 I party and they hosted
- 16:32and it was really nice to meet other people in the Two I
- 16:35community that I hadn't already. And obviously see some familiar
- 16:38faces in the Two I community that I've met in Iowa in the
- 16:42past and also in the European conference last year when I went
- 16:47to Amsterdam. So I'm looking forward to the
- 16:50next European conference. If you guys watching have to I
- 16:54and you've never been to a conference before or you think
- 16:57America is too far to travel, there is going to be an LGMD
- 17:02conference in Europe, the second European one in Denmark at the
- 17:07end of May. I think it's the 24th and 25th
- 17:10of May that weekend anyway. So please put that in your diary
- 17:14if you haven't already. Please consider it.
- 17:16And a great thing about these conferences and I know for sure
- 17:20about the ones in America is that there are stipends
- 17:23available for those travelling from afar.
- 17:26And obviously these conferences are very expensive, so the Speed
- 17:30Foundation do really take that into consideration and they try
- 17:34their best to accommodate that. The fact that we stayed at the
- 17:37hotel where the conference was was only because they managed to
- 17:42give us a reduced rate for the rooms for the conference.
- 17:46Otherwise that place is way too spanny and I would not have been
- 17:49able to stay there. But it was just nice to know
- 17:52that we do, you know, have an extra bit of support in that
- 17:55way. There were more talks then on
- 17:57the Sunday, quite similar to the one on Saturday.
- 18:01It was very science based and it did end a bit earlier so that we
- 18:04could have a chance to just catch up and relax.
- 18:07And I know a lot of people went home that day.
- 18:09This is where I had the genius idea to record this next segment
- 18:14of the podcast. So I'm going to play that now.
- 18:17And then after these interviews, I'm going to come back and talk
- 18:21about my experience at Disney World if you guys are interested
- 18:25in sticking around for that because I've had so many
- 18:27questions online about my experience at Disney World.
- 18:31I only did one day, but I did 3 parks in one day with a
- 18:36wheelchair. So if you guys are interested in
- 18:38that, stick around after the little interviews that I have.
- 18:41But for now, sit back, relax and enjoy.
- 18:44So my first victim today to the podcast, my first guest is
- 18:48Grace. Yeah.
- 18:49How you doing? Hello, biggest unbalanced fan
- 18:52right here. So very excited to be together
- 18:55with Karis in person. So nice to actually chat with
- 18:58you in person and not just online.
- 19:00Yes, on Instagram or TikTok comments.
- 19:03Yes, exactly. So tell us a bit about yourself.
- 19:07I'm Grace, I'm 25 years old and I have a limb girdle muscular
- 19:11dystrophy type 2 J and I was diagnosed about 3 years ago.
- 19:15Amazing. And what were your first
- 19:17symptoms? So back when I was around 20 I
- 19:22started having a really hard time walking to my classes at
- 19:26college. I could not keep up with my
- 19:28friends like I used to be able to.
- 19:30And then I was having a harder time getting up from a seated
- 19:33position, getting up from the floor and then eventually stairs
- 19:37became a nightmare for me and I would need a railing.
- 19:41And then it just got worse and worse with time, and eventually
- 19:46I was travelling and my legs kept giving out and I really
- 19:51hurt my ankle. So at that point my parents were
- 19:53like, you know what, maybe let's see some doctors.
- 19:56There might be something going on here.
- 19:58Wow. And here you are.
- 20:00And here I am. And you've got an actual little
- 20:03someone with us, can you? Do Oh yes, can't forget her.
- 20:06This is Delilah. This is my first cane.
- 20:09I got her back in November so she's on the newer side but I'm
- 20:13so happy to have her. She's world famous now.
- 20:17She's been travelling with me a lot, but yeah, I can't imagine
- 20:20my life without her at this point.
- 20:22So thank you, Delilah. We love her.
- 20:25You also have a mobility scooter which is out of shock but she's
- 20:28also so cool. Does does this mobility scooter
- 20:32have a name as well? So I she looks kind of like a
- 20:36Betty. The scooter is actually a rental
- 20:39for just this weekend because this is a lot of walking
- 20:42happening in this conference sitter and travelling can be a
- 20:46lot for me and I'm sure all of us here, but it gets very
- 20:49exhausting and I wanted to be able to keep up and keep my
- 20:52energy levels high during this conference.
- 20:54So the scooters kind of a trial run for this weekend, but I'm
- 20:58really enjoying it and I'm getting a little scared of how
- 21:00used to it I'm getting and how good I am at driving it because
- 21:04now I might want to keep one. Well, how have you found the
- 21:09conference? This is, I mean, this is we're
- 21:11nearing the end of the conference.
- 21:13How have you found it? I've absolutely loved it.
- 21:16I was honestly really nervous to come to this because as much as
- 21:19I love talking to all of you guys online and it's helped me
- 21:23feel better about my situation. I hadn't really met a lot of
- 21:27people that also have LGMD in person so I wasn't sure if it
- 21:31would maybe make me feel more overwhelmed or like worse about
- 21:35everything or just disappointed about the whole situation.
- 21:40But honestly it has done only the opposite of that.
- 21:43I feel so much better and more confident about what's going on
- 21:48and also I feel like I have this whole community now.
- 21:51I have like a a new family. Yeah, definitely it.
- 21:54It really does feel like a family, like you really belong
- 21:56here. It's so nice.
- 21:58What's been your favourite thing and like your biggest takeaway
- 22:01from the conference? I think actually using the
- 22:05scooter and feeling the confidence to do it around
- 22:08everyone else that has their mobile devices.
- 22:10Something I was thinking about yesterday was it was one of the
- 22:14first times I felt actually normal in a long time, like back
- 22:19in the normal day today, I think it's easy for us with this
- 22:23health condition to feel out of place or like we're the odd one
- 22:27out. And we're constantly thinking
- 22:29about our mobility and how to get from point A to B and how
- 22:32our friends are going to help us with that.
- 22:34But here, all of us are dealing with the same things.
- 22:37We all have those same thoughts, so we don't have to worry about
- 22:39what it looks like when we're limping around or how we're
- 22:42going to get from one room to the other.
- 22:44We're all kind of dealing with the same things and so it feels
- 22:47normal. Exactly.
- 22:49I love that. Is there anything else you want
- 22:51to add? No, I love unbalanced.
- 22:54Go unbalanced. I love it.
- 22:55Subscribe. Oh, I want to ask a question
- 22:58that I ask all my interviewees. Yes, you.
- 23:00Can probably guess it. What's one piece of advice that
- 23:03you'd give someone who has just been diagnosed?
- 23:06OK. Yes, this is a great question.
- 23:09So it took a very long time when I was diagnosed for me to be
- 23:13open about it. And I want people to know that
- 23:15that's OK. It is a grieving process when
- 23:18you are diagnosed with an incurable disease that will
- 23:22continue for the rest of your life.
- 23:24And that is progressive. And it's OK to have those heavy
- 23:28emotions. But also, when you are ready, do
- 23:32seek out this community because we are here and we're ready to
- 23:36welcome you and it will help so much, I promise.
- 23:40I love that. Thank you so much, Grace.
- 23:43You're welcome. I love you.
- 23:45I love you too. Bye.
- 23:49So my next guest is Solomon. Hi.
- 23:52Hi. How you doing?
- 23:53Good. How are you?
- 23:54Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to actually be
- 23:57like meeting you guys in person. It's been so great.
- 24:00So tell me a bit about yourself. So my name is Solomon, I'm 30
- 24:03years old. I have limb girdle muscular
- 24:05dystrophy type 2B. 2B. To be or not to?
- 24:10Be. To be or not?
- 24:10To be I love that one. That's definitely not a joke
- 24:13I've made before. And so when were you diagnosed?
- 24:17So I had an interesting journey in which I was misdiagnosed sort
- 24:22of in my late teens and then got my official diagnosis just two
- 24:25years ago. In high school.
- 24:27I started having these really weird abdominal symptoms that
- 24:31led me to getting blood work, which led to the high liver
- 24:33enzyme thing that a lot of us experience.
- 24:36And that kind of had this snowball effect of not being
- 24:39sure what's wrong. Was getting fatigued really
- 24:42easily turned into muscular dystrophy just by chance of a
- 24:45specialist being in the room during one of my blood panel
- 24:48things just by sheer chance. But my actual onset didn't start
- 24:52until I was about 24 and I just started falling randomly.
- 24:57I would be like walking somewhere or like trying to
- 25:00stand up and I wouldn't like fall forward and like face plant
- 25:02or like fall backwards trying to get into a doorway.
- 25:05And it just kind of became a cascading effect.
- 25:09OK. And you knew that's not normal.
- 25:11Yeah, people. Don't fall that.
- 25:13I mean, I was accident from as a child, but this felt kind of
- 25:15egregious. It's exactly.
- 25:17Funny. Yeah.
- 25:18Yeah, well, I mean, that's definitely one thing that set me
- 25:20apart for my friends. It's just like the random falls
- 25:23and then just be stood there like well, don't really know how
- 25:25to help you here. Yeah, it's really almost a
- 25:29vantilizing in a way, because like the first time it happened,
- 25:31I was walking down my driveway and I literally like fell for
- 25:34like a child and I was like and didn't really know what to do
- 25:39other than just like get up and be like.
- 25:40That was weird. Yeah, wow.
- 25:42So you're here, You've had a diagnosis, you've met your
- 25:46people. What's it been like?
- 25:48It's been really cathartic in a way that I'm still trying to
- 25:53find the words to describe. This is my first conference and
- 25:56one, it's really nice kind of just being somewhere where
- 25:58everyone has like mobility aids and different body types and
- 26:02things like that. So it, I feel part of something
- 26:05and not like in this weird voyeuristic position that allows
- 26:08us to feel like when we're kind of on display, for lack of a
- 26:11better term. So it's nice to kind of just
- 26:13blend into the crowd for once while still being in a
- 26:15wheelchair and being able to like access the things that I
- 26:18need to have access to. But it's, it's been really
- 26:22great. And I think it's going to be one
- 26:23of those things where I'm going to be sitting on the feelings
- 26:25for a few weeks before I finally have the right words to
- 26:28describe. Yeah, it's definitely been
- 26:31overwhelming. But in the display, you know,
- 26:33like in the outside world, let's say like I'm the one by myself
- 26:38that's in a wheelchair and then everyone else has stood around.
- 26:41Whereas here, like the majority of people are in wheelchairs and
- 26:43mobility aids. So it's just like a sense of
- 26:46belonging in a way, isn't it? Also like the situational
- 26:49awareness everyone has is really nice, not having to constantly
- 26:51tell people to move or yeah. You know, everything's been
- 26:55thought out like. Yeah, and even like the people
- 26:57who are here helping out, who aren't disabled, having that
- 27:00awareness and knowing to move out of the way or move other
- 27:02people out of the way and kind of give room for people who need
- 27:05it. Exactly.
- 27:06Yeah, because there's a lot of people without LGMD here as
- 27:09well, like whether they're caregivers, family partners, and
- 27:12we both have our partners here. And it's just so nice for them
- 27:15to just know, you know, like if someone else is struggling as
- 27:18well, like they get it as well. Like my partner has been, you
- 27:22know, kind of aware and around and, you know, ready to help
- 27:25other people as well because he knows he knows what it's.
- 27:28Like, and it also sets a really good example down the line for
- 27:31people who might not know how to help disabled people.
- 27:34Yeah, I think having that sort of visual example, because a lot
- 27:36of it's just due to a lack of exposure, yeah.
- 27:38Like a lot of people just genuinely don't know what to do
- 27:40in the face of disability, even though anyone can become
- 27:43disabled at any time. Exactly, Yeah.
- 27:45So I feel like it's in a way unintentionally paying it
- 27:48forward. Yeah, definitely.
- 27:49I mean, it's always good to educate yourself because you
- 27:52never know, you might be a part of the community one day and
- 27:55we'll be here to welcome you. So to finish off, I want to ask
- 28:00you a question that I ask all my interviewees, which is what is
- 28:04one piece of advice you'd give someone that's just getting a
- 28:07diagnosis or your younger self? Advocate for yourself, it is so
- 28:11important. I think approaching everything
- 28:14from the closed mouths don't get bed mentality.
- 28:17People don't know how to help unless you told them how to
- 28:19help. And it's uncomfortable and it
- 28:21sucks, but also it's really necessary and I think it can
- 28:24apply to anyone, disability or not knowing how to stand up for
- 28:28yourself, how to ask for what you need.
- 28:30Yeah, and it gets easier and the more you do it.
- 28:31Yeah, it's a form of self-care, right?
- 28:33Exactly. Yeah.
- 28:35Amazing. Is there anything else you want
- 28:36to add? No.
- 28:37Just thank you for having me. It's been great meeting you, I
- 28:39mean. I know.
- 28:40Can we hug? Yeah.
- 28:41It's been so nice to meet. You.
- 28:43You too. I'm loving this speed dating
- 28:45thing because next we're moving on to Santana.
- 28:48Hello, how you doing doing so well?
- 28:51Thank you for having me. I'm.
- 28:52So excited to actually meet you in person.
- 28:54We've been talking so much online and there's nothing like
- 28:57being able to finally see each other and hug for the first
- 29:00time. Yeah, I think when when we saw
- 29:02each other, we were like. Yeah, it was crazy because it's
- 29:05like I recognised you immediately, I know, but that
- 29:08was our first time actually meeting.
- 29:09It was so fun. That was awesome.
- 29:11So tell me a bit about yourself. Well my name is Santana, I'm 24
- 29:16and I have LGMD type 2B. Cool.
- 29:20And we just interviewed your brother, actually.
- 29:22Yes. So can you give us a bit of an
- 29:25insight into your journey with LGMD?
- 29:27Yes. So I was doing dance in high
- 29:31school, very active in that way, and it started getting really
- 29:35hard for me to keep up. We would have to do these like
- 29:38timed runs, like 2 miles that were graded and then your grade
- 29:42was based on how fast you finish the run.
- 29:45And so I was doing the run one day and I, I just couldn't even
- 29:49finish it. I probably got like a little
- 29:51over a mile and my legs were just so sore just to a physical
- 29:56point of exhaustion, like I can't.
- 29:59So I'd stop and I think I got like a 0 on the run.
- 30:03My teacher failed me and I was like practically failing dance
- 30:06at that point. And that obviously wasn't
- 30:08normal. So we went and did all the blood
- 30:10work and stuff. And then of course the high
- 30:13liver enzymes and that was kind of that we already knew that my
- 30:17older sibling has it. So it was just kind of like an
- 30:20assumption, like you're, you have all the symptoms and signs.
- 30:24It's most likely the exact same thing.
- 30:26OK, cool. We're here in the conference
- 30:29where we're not singled out. We're all together, you know,
- 30:32we're all like facing the same challenges and have the same
- 30:36kind of experiences. How have you found the
- 30:37conference? It has been so welcoming.
- 30:42I not that I didn't anticipate it, but everyone was just so
- 30:46friendly and wanting to get to know everyone.
- 30:50And you meet someone once and you see them again and they'll
- 30:53say hi to you. And it's like an automatic
- 30:55friendship in a way. Yeah, but.
- 30:57You're connected in like a. Different way.
- 30:59Exactly. It's like an automatic
- 31:02vulnerable connection. And then also a lot of people
- 31:05are here like with their families or their spouses or
- 31:08partners and whatever it is. So you're not, I'm just meeting
- 31:11those people. You're meeting their family,
- 31:13their friends, their support system also.
- 31:15So it's like a whole web of people.
- 31:18It's been amazing. What's been like the main
- 31:21takeaway for you from this weekend?
- 31:24I think the main takeaway is just how big the community is
- 31:29and how connected everyone is. It's like I kind of knew it
- 31:33existed. I knew it was there, but I guess
- 31:36it feels more tangible now, like really hearing about all the
- 31:41resources, all the different foundations for different
- 31:44subtypes, and there's just kind of something for everyone.
- 31:48Even though it's so such a different experience for
- 31:50everyone, they still do a really good job at like covering that
- 31:54and bringing everyone together for.
- 31:56Sure. Yeah, I'm going to end this with
- 31:58one last question. What piece of advice would you
- 32:01give your younger self or someone that might be struggling
- 32:05with a diagnosis? My biggest piece of advice would
- 32:09be to never stop pushing yourself out of your comfort
- 32:13zone. I think a lot of things become
- 32:17uncomfortable as even just daily tasks become harder.
- 32:22It's really easy to kind of go into yourself and want to
- 32:26shelter yourself from that discomfort.
- 32:29But I think the more you push yourself and do those little
- 32:33things, get the mobility device, you know, take it out to the
- 32:36grocery store, Tell your friends about what you're going through.
- 32:40Ask a stranger for help. Like all of those things.
- 32:43The more you do it, the easier it is, and then you kind of
- 32:46build that confidence back up. That kind of gets taken away a
- 32:50little bit when you have a progressive disability.
- 32:53Definitely, and it takes a while to be open about using mobility
- 32:56aids. Especially with your friends.
- 32:58Oh yes. How have you found that journey?
- 33:00I luckily have the most amazing friends in the whole world.
- 33:04They have always been super supportive, no questions asked.
- 33:08Whatever I need, they'll do it in a heartbeat.
- 33:10So I'm very lucky in that sense that they really don't care.
- 33:14They're just kind of like, if we can get you there, then we'll
- 33:18figure out a way to get you there.
- 33:19Exactly. That's.
- 33:20The most important thing, right? Yeah, and it doesn't define you
- 33:22as. Well, no, not at all.
- 33:24You do a lot of tick tocks. I do.
- 33:27Life with LG and I think they're honestly amazing.
- 33:31Like you just get so real and it's so relatable.
- 33:34Where can we find you? You can find me my username on
- 33:37TikTok is Tana needs help. So that's where to find me
- 33:42because we do. And I kind of, I was like trying
- 33:45to get creative with the username and I was like, how can
- 33:48I? And I was like, I just want to
- 33:50put it out there, like I need help, You know, it's hard to ask
- 33:53for help. So if I just make it my username
- 33:55like yeah I need help, then maybe it makes other people feel
- 33:59a little more comfortable. That's such a good idea.
- 34:01So Tana needs help. Go follow me.
- 34:03Go find it. You're missing out, you know.
- 34:07Thank. You so much.
- 34:08Thank you. Good.
- 34:10Yes, it has. Listen, I'm going to say a
- 34:12touch. Oh yeah.
- 34:13This is not our last collaboration, just the first.
- 34:18So next we have. Grace, Hi, Grace, Hi.
- 34:22How are you doing? Good.
- 34:24Grace and I actually. Met in the Iowa LGMD 2 I
- 34:28conference in 2022. So we we go, we go back.
- 34:32You know, well, and we met online and probably like 2021 or
- 34:37something. Yeah, even before that.
- 34:40It's been so nice to to see you and to catch up and then.
- 34:43But tell me a bit about yourself.
- 34:45I'm Grace, I'm from Atlanta, GA and I have LG B2.
- 34:54I like you. I was diagnosed since 2020 when
- 34:58I was 16. After I was, I got
- 35:02rhabdomyolysis from lacrosse January of 2020.
- 35:08And then I was hospitalised for a few days and they were just
- 35:11kind of like, that's weird because I ran like a mile and
- 35:15that's it. And then I just sat out of
- 35:18lacrosse for like 2 months. And then when I tried to start
- 35:23participating in it again, I got rad dough again.
- 35:26And then so they gene tested me and found out that muscular
- 35:30dystrophy, which was also during quarantine.
- 35:33So that sucked, yeah. That must have been hard, right?
- 35:37So you were in hospital whilst COVID was happening?
- 35:40Yeah, like the March 12th, March 13th, whatever day where
- 35:45everything shut down, I was in the hospital so I missed my last
- 35:48few days. It's a junior year where they
- 35:51like taught everyone how to use Zoom and stuff for the rest of
- 35:54the school year. I didn't know.
- 35:56Well, they made me Zoom from the hospital to practise and then I
- 36:00got Rabio 2 more times in 2020, so I've had it four times in
- 36:05total. And is that like a result of?
- 36:08Working yourself too hard. Yeah, so I got it from, yeah,
- 36:12running a little under a mile at Lacrosse and then jogging a
- 36:15little at Lacrosse and then tubing at my friend's lake house
- 36:21twice. The next two times I had it,
- 36:23we're both from tubing, but I haven't had it since then.
- 36:26So yeah. Wow.
- 36:29So we're here at the LG MD 2025 conference.
- 36:32How you How have you found it? I've had.
- 36:35A lot of fun here. I feel like I was was fun, but
- 36:39it was a lot smaller and I've met so many more people here
- 36:44from everywhere and the eyeball one was only two.
- 36:49I right and so this I've seen how different all the subtypes
- 36:54are and it's been cool and all your talks were good.
- 36:59Thank you. Yeah, It's been amazing to not
- 37:03just meet with people with two I, but also other people with
- 37:06lots of different subtypes. And we have still so much in
- 37:09common, right? Yeah, and we have more, like,
- 37:12fun Hangouts at this one. Like we'll have drinks with
- 37:15people, go to the pool. Whereas I feel like Iowa's kind
- 37:18of just conferences, you know? So to finish, what is one piece
- 37:24of advice that you have for someone that's going through a
- 37:27diagnosis? I would.
- 37:30Say to lean on people like friends and family, but also
- 37:35medical people. I I already had a therapist, but
- 37:40I spent a lot of time talking about in therapy, learning how
- 37:43to advocate and kind of accept it.
- 37:46And I would just be conscious when looking online and just
- 37:51searching it up on WebMD because and stuff like that, it can be
- 37:54kind of scary. So yeah.
- 37:56Thank you so much for coming on. Of.
- 37:58Course, we'll keep in touch for sure.
- 38:01Yes. Honestly, I'm just so grateful
- 38:05for these guys. I mean, they're amazing and I'm
- 38:09so honoured to have had them on the podcast, so I hope you guys
- 38:13enjoyed that little segment. I'm just going to quickly talk
- 38:17about my experience at Disney World.
- 38:19You will see it all in my vlog as well, but I've had a lot of
- 38:24questions since then asking about accessibility and what it
- 38:27was like taking a wheelchair. So it was quite a full circle
- 38:31moment for me because as I've mentioned before in my podcast,
- 38:36the first time I ever used a wheelchair was at Epcot in
- 38:40Disney World. When I first needed that
- 38:42wheelchair when I was 16 years old, eight years ago, I really,
- 38:45really struggled. I cried when I sat in the
- 38:48wheelchair. I felt ashamed.
- 38:50I felt annoyed at myself that I'd given up, but I desperately
- 38:54needed that wheelchair. Whereas now I'm proudly posting
- 38:58about it online, I'm proudly talking about it on my podcast,
- 39:02and I'm inspiring other people to do the same, to just be proud
- 39:07of being wheelchair users and to open up and to accept needing
- 39:11mobility aids. It's not a bad thing at all.
- 39:13But I think back then, eight years ago, I saw it as a bad
- 39:16thing. I saw it as me giving up.
- 39:18But it's not at all. And I honestly would not have
- 39:22been able to do Disney again without a wheelchair.
- 39:25But it was absolutely boiling, it was so humid.
- 39:28And now I see why people don't tend to go in the summer.
- 39:31Oh my goodness. So I'm really glad I had it.
- 39:34And poor Tristan, fair play to him pushing me around.
- 39:38He was an absolute trooper. He did amazing.
- 39:40What was great about the experience was I was worried
- 39:43that I was going to be held up in the queues, but they saw me
- 39:47in the wheelchair and instantly I took my wheelchair to the exit
- 39:52ready for me, let me skip the line, go straight on the ride
- 39:55and a couple of the rides were accessible.
- 39:57Most of the rides you do have to transfer.
- 40:00So if that's not something you're comfortable in, I really
- 40:03don't know what the other option is because most of the rides
- 40:06were really awkward to sit in and to get out of.
- 40:10If it wasn't for trust. I'm being there to help me to
- 40:12lift me out of let of these rides.
- 40:15I would not have been able to do it.
- 40:17There were a couple of rides where you could stay in your
- 40:19wheelchair, for example. We did It's a Small World and
- 40:23they're all on boats. If you guys don't know.
- 40:25And there was one big accessible boat with a ramp straight from
- 40:29the platform. You can wheel onto it and just
- 40:31sit in the wheelchair on the boat to put your brakes on.
- 40:34And that was so cool. I didn't actually do that.
- 40:36I ended up transferring, but the seats were so low I would not
- 40:40have been able to get up. And it if it wasn't for Tristan
- 40:44lifting me out of there, I would have just gone on with my
- 40:46wheelchair. But it was good to know that
- 40:48option was there. I have to say, the staff was so
- 40:52accommodating. They would really look after
- 40:55your mobility aid and let you skip the queue to go on the ride
- 41:00straight away. Or they would give you a time to
- 41:02come back to avoid you having to wait around in the queue, which
- 41:06I think would have been more of an issue for me if I didn't have
- 41:08my wheelchair because in my wheelchair I'm not standing
- 41:11around. But anyway, it was still nice to
- 41:14have that treatment. And during the fireworks and the
- 41:17parades, there are accessible spots just for people in
- 41:20mobility aids to be there. But from my experience, they
- 41:23tend to book up really quickly. So you have to turn up like at
- 41:26least an hour before the event actually starts to get the
- 41:31space. And then leaving the Magic
- 41:35Kingdom. Obviously, we're in the Magic
- 41:36Kingdom at the end. We did Epcot Hollywood Studios
- 41:38in the Magic Kingdom. The end was such a rush to get
- 41:43on the monorail and to get home. The queues were insane.
- 41:47But there was a separate queue for accessibility and for people
- 41:52in mobility aids and we just got straight on, straight onto the
- 41:55next train and it was absolutely amazing.
- 41:57So I think it is really important to leave good reviews
- 42:01as well as bad. You know, I think people are
- 42:03more reluctant when it comes to good reviews.
- 42:05When you get bad experience somewhere, you're more likely to
- 42:09talk about that bad experience online and to share it with
- 42:12people and to leave it on TripAdvisor or whatever.
- 42:15But I think I had such a good experience that I think it's
- 42:18really important to share that as well.
- 42:20The staff are so lovely and so friendly and they will do
- 42:23anything to help accommodate that.
- 42:26And we didn't really go as much for the rides anyway.
- 42:30We just wanted to be there and scout the place out and cover as
- 42:33much ground as we could, which I could do because I was in a
- 42:36wheelchair and I didn't have that restriction of not being
- 42:39able to walk that much. And so it was truly a great
- 42:42experience. If you guys want to check out
- 42:45more content that I made in Florida, don't forget to check
- 42:48out my YouTube where obviously I did my vlog and also my
- 42:52Instagram at Unbalanced Podcast. I have a whole highlights page
- 42:56dedicated to Florida and the LGMD conference.
- 43:00My next episode will be an exciting one because it's on my
- 43:04birthday in a couple weeks. Only two weeks left until my
- 43:07birthday guys, how exciting. And so that'll be a special solo
- 43:11episode as well to celebrate my birthday because you know, I'm
- 43:15definitely not self centred at all.
- 43:17Anyway, I hope you guys enjoyed this episode.
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