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So let's get into the tidbits. Sean Monahan timeline for his
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injury has been extended. He's not expected to be back
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until late March. Well.
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Yep, that's pretty much it. No, I mean, like we already
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didn't know when he was going to be back, but like, it wasn't
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gonna be that soon. But they just announced that
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it's gonna be even later than expected at this point.
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I'm not counting him as an asset in fantasy.
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I think he's not going to be back before a fantasy.
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Season You might come back for week 25, but are you even going
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to start him in your? That's like a guy coming back
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from like injury like that. I mean, this is great for
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Fantilli. If there was any doubt that he's
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aligned 1. 30 something. Crazy.
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Yeah, we're going to mention him in our streamers until he gets
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to that 40% threshold, then we can't talk about him anymore.
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But yeah, now that's a no brainer.
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Yeah, the reason most Rozerem, but yeah, always Speaking of
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Columbus. Would you feel comfortable
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dropping Sean Monahan IR? Almost, yeah.
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See if you have the free spot. There's no reason to, but I
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would not feel bad dropping him. I really don't think he's coming
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back for the fantasy season. Yeah, alright.
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Speaking of Columbus. Yegor Chiniki V is healthy and
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is going to return to line 2 Power play 2 for Columbus.
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This was what we expected. I think we had some doubts.
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Maybe he slides back into line one, but like dash, line 1 is
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just clicking too. Much, But honestly, this line 2
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is a really good line too. It's Jenner, Johnson and now
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Chikov. Yeah, I like that a lot in even
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strength line. I'm less enthused about power
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play too. Don't think that's gonna do
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much. But but yeah, I mean, he's a
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good shooter and hitter. So if you need a guy speculative
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ad he didn't he's been back for one game.
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Got like three shots in two hits.
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Your points, he's more of a bigger than you than you think.
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Yeah, look at you. Like OK, going to get shots and
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points, but like he's banging. Yeah, he's very bangaly
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relevant. And we talk about bangers here.
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Yep, Yeah. I'm just thinking there's no one
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he'd really replace on that first power play.
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Maybe. Maybe Ken Johnson at some point.
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But not even too well. Yeah.
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So maybe. He's buried on.
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The second power play for you really have no reason to change
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it there. Line one power play one like.
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It just doesn't make sense. Yeah, OK.
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Jack Hughes was injured on Sunday.
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He is out for. The Season out for the season
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and it's a huge blow to, I mean, fantasy owners absolutely,
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because obviously he's a stud first round pick for the Devils.
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They're probably just cost and they already got to play out
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spots. So they're like, OK, why?
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They're gonna get the extra cap room.
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They'll be able to make an extra move probably.
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Honestly even before this use injury I'm not sold on the
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Devils even doing really poorly and.
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But they have a playoff spot, so they're like.
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Do they though? Because Columbus could pass them
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in the if you look at their if you look at.
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The. It's not even that unreasonable.
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Like Columbus could pass New Jersey and New Jersey could drop
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out of the playoffs without Jack Hughes.
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This was the next point, but Dougie Hamilton also day-to-day.
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Can be injured. The Rangers, too, They close.
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They're also just have not been good even with these guys in the
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lineup, so I don't think they're gonna get better with these guys
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out of the lineup. So we'll see what moves they
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make at the deadline, but I don't think there's a lock for a
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playoff spot. The thing is, I'd be shocked if
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they didn't even slide into a wild card spot.
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Anything's possible, but. They've been really, really bad.
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Yeah, they just got married back though.
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Not that Jake Allen has been bad, but.
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Yeah. But anyway, so he was out for
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the season. I think the biggest beneficiary
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of this is Timo Meyer. Yep, it's demo time.
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Oh yeah, it's definitely Timo time.
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What's your Jingle? Is it?
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Give me fuel, give me fire. Give me Timo Bleeping Meyer.
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The one with us, No. Just if Timo ever does anything
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and you go into that his like fantasy chat just being blasted
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everywhere. That's like Canon song you.
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Know Canon? But like a little bit different,
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but gave me free. Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, this this sucks for Hughes owners.
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It's just like probably season ending because you likely picked
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a first round. You used a first round pick on
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him, you know? Yeah.
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Can you pivot out of this if you own Jack Hughes Realistic?
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Pick up team Will Meyer now. Pick up Turbo Teravainen.
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Honestly, yeah. You really?
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I will say one thing with Hughes is that that type of archetype
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is easier to replace, I think, in like the short term, yeah.
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Like the thing that you can pick up a guy who will contribute
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points, like the shots is what makes them so special.
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So that I think is the hardest to replace.
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But you can pick up a guy who's gonna get you a lot of points in
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one week and no banger cats. The difference with a player who
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obviously makes superstars, he does it throughout the entire
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season. Yeah, so.
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But with so little time left in the season, obviously it's a
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loss no matter what, but you could be able to find a way.
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Out you can stream like 60 to 80% of his production type of
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thing like you can get some like two shots a game and and 70% of
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his points yeah. That's it exactly.
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It's not like losing one of those like complete like younger
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players because those guys like you can only really replace
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their for suction with like 2 separate spots, yeah.
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Yep. But yeah, so Timo Meyer huge
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boost. I think most trade deadlines are
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done. If they're not, I guess probably
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people are too smart to trade them away at this point once
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they see the huge. Injury in the first game without
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cues, you got eight hits, three shots and two points On the 1st
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power play. Scored a power play goal.
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Yeah, so it's a good day to be a team of Myer owner, a bad day to
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be a Jack Hughes owner on the same, you know, talking about
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the Devils, Devils Dougie Hamilton day-to-day.
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We don't he like missed most of the game.
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But they haven't said yet what the issue is.
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So he could still be back for Friday, but I wouldn't be
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surprised to see him miss a few games and Luke Hughes will take
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power play one if he misses any time.
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Are you interested in Dawson Mercer at all or does this do
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you think this bumps is value up a little bit?
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I still don't know, like I know Mercer played a bit of on the
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power play last game, but I don't know.
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I don't know if he takes it over Nathan so, but even then I feel
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like, I feel like in leagues where I feel like Hughes is
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available in enough leagues that like I would take him over
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Mercer. And your other Tatar or a pilot
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or? No, I've had, I've had both of
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those guys on and off my like a watch list throughout the year
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and they just never performed consistently.
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So I'm really not interested. OK, shifting teams.
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Brady to Chuck, Josh Norris and Shane Pinto all returned to the
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Senators line up to Chuck his back on power play one and
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Norris and Pinto are both Power Plate 2.
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Yeah, this I think the most interesting thing here is going
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to be between Norris and Shirou, who stays on power play one and
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who gets power play 2. They've I honestly, I expected
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Norris to be immediately back on power play one and they've
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really let Jiru run with it. So now I'm doubting if he's
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going to lose it at all. I guess it'll really depend on
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like how well they do, but but yeah, I think that's a really
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exciting team. They're fighting for a playoff
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spot. Like they have a great playoff
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schedule, so and Pinto has just got like a two goal game.
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I think he has like goals in like two or three straight so.
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I will say Norris is had a slow start to coming back from
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injury, like one shot over two games.
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So definitely not encouraging, but we'll see how it goes.
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Obviously he's just coming back from another injury.
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You know, he's a squishy guy. Like he's missed time already.
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Yeah, super squishy. So we'll see if we can ease into
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a role, but maybe just wanna be more cautious.
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I also saw his name and trade rumors like that They're looking
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to. Trade I've just given up on him
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honestly. Sometimes you get frustrated as
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like I don't know if it's like if owners are like fans, you
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know, but as a fan, like I'm looking at like the haves, like
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Kirby Doc, right, another season ending injury.
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Yeah, is like the third year, like he's played like less than
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half the season and at certain point you're like, alright, we
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think we have to move on to this guy.
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It's not that it's their fault. Some a lot of times bad luck,
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but sometimes. Like scenery can help.
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Sometimes it exactly, so I wouldn't be surprised if Norris
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does get moved. I would be surprised actually if
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a team takes him because of his cap hit and his injury history.
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Maybe they retain salary. It's like an 8 year deal or
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something. I don't think you could afford
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that really. It's a long deal.
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I mean, who has the room? Would you take him on the Habs?
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Like if it wasn't for the injury history, Josh, like we really
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need a line 2C and I really like Josh Norris as a player, but the
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injury you can't ignore the injury history, you know, and
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the cap hit, the cap hit super fair if he didn't have the
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injury history, But with that, then it makes I don't think I
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would take the risk. Yep, Brad Marshawn out week to
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week. Morgan Yee takes his spot on
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power play one. This sucks.
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Boston definitely like they're sellers at the deadline.
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They have no chance. I think they've they pretty much
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given up on this season. When it rained.
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Terror is finally over. Like not in the playoff hunt and
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you know, a guy like, you know, on a veteran or a star gets hurt
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and it's like not a day-to-day thing is a little longer.
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Like they're just gonna hold him out.
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Yeah, for sure. And it's funny, like, I think
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Boston, they kind of gave up on the season while still very much
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being in the mix. You know, like they're only like
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2-3 points out of a playoff spot, but they've kind of
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decided like, we're packing it in, we're done.
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You know, I think this really sucks if you're a swingman.
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Owner because what do they do? They make the first, they make
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the wild card in the last wrecked in the first round.
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So why even do? That it makes sense to to be
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sellers and to just kind of start the rebuild.
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Yeah. It sucks for Swamin owners.
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I think past I think will be fine regardless.
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He doesn't really depend on Marshall for his production.
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Hopefully doesn't get banged. Up yeah, I think Geek, he's a
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great pickup. He's already kind of like solid
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for bangers leagues. Yeah, he's a category guy.
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Yeah, exactly. So he's like a solid cat guy,
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but now that he's getting, he was already lined one also, but
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now he's power play one as well. I like that a lot.
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That's a pickup. Lindholm has been a stud.
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Yeah, he's solid. Yeah, I don't think this Marsha
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injury actually affects anything, but finally, finally
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think. Because they play online
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together and even strength replacement line made is not
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going to be as good as. Marshall maybe they maybe they
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stack the. First line is very much past us,
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Zacha, and that's not changing. Yeah, hopefully it doesn't.
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Not that he's been so great for points, but at least it's back
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out. I've woken up.
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Just slide down. Yeah.
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Yeah. OK.
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Jason Zucker is day-to-day with an injury.
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Alex Tuck is taking his spot on the 1st power play.
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Alex sucks. Been really good this year.
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It's funny without power. I had him as like a cell high
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last week. Yeah, in our last like Cell High
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episode because. People keep getting hurt.
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That's it. I was like, this guy, there's no
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reason, like his deployment is not good enough for him to be
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doing this well, you know, and then what happens?
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Jason Zucker gets hurt and he gets power 1 is like, OK,
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obviously now, you know, I trust this.
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I trust this production a lot more.
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Yeah. That being said, I think the
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second sucker comes back he gets bumped down again so.
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I wonder if Tucker is in trade talks and that's why they're
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just like. You know, you think so?
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I mean, I haven't heard anything about.
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That I haven't heard anything about that either.
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I just thought of it now because Zucker's on my team and it's
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like day-to-day and like next chance to come back will be this
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game, you know, like they're back-to-back tooth.
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So. So it's easy to miss both games
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on back-to-back when you're hurt.
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I feel like he's been day-to-day for like a week at this point.
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Yeah. I feel like it's been a lot of
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like, day-to-day out, day-to-day.
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Yeah. So it could be some trade thing.
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You could just be like, it's really not that big of an entry,
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but it just is taking longer than they expect.
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So keep an eye on that. But you can't pick up Alex
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Tucker's already owned in most leagues.
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But just if you're a duck owner, enjoy it while you can.
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And again, if you're trade deadline hasn't passed yet, I
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would really be looking to sell talk before he gets bumped off
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the power play. Yeah.
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Yeah, I. Do you think there's any way he
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stays or no? Like I don't know why I seen.
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This before people get hurt he gets on there they.
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Don't think they would like just bum, Jack went.
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Off and no, no, like they just for some reason, I don't know
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why they like that looking. At moving dentally, Alex talk
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like, yeah, just crazy because he went there like from the
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Vegas deal. He was like his hometown.
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Like excited to be there. It would be.
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I think it would be a real mistake for them to get rid of.
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Him. So it would be classic Buffalo.
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Yeah, been very good. Yeah, he has been, yeah.
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I mean, I guess he's on the other side.
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He's not that old, I don't think.
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And there's very few players who want to play in Buffalo, you
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know, like, realistically. So why do you get 1 then?
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Don't treat ship them out. Exactly.
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It's ridiculous. Yeah.
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Yeah, the post Buffalo trade though of course, like all
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their. Players, yeah, they don't stop.
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Wherever he goes. So it's going to be exciting,
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OK? Queen Hughes is day-to-day
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again. It seems to be a lingering
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issue. The power play units are a mess
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and they keep changing so there's no real clear
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replacement for. Him, yeah.
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My first instinct when I see Quinn, he was injured is OK, go
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pick up Phillip Ronick, you know, But I was looking at the
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power play lines and they just, it's like, it's like if Rod was
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running, you know, like the Canucks.
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They keep like shuffling up the lines.
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Honestly that whole team is a mess and I kinda want no part of
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it. Yeah, at this point I really
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thought Patterson would have like a nice turn on, but yeah,
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yeah, listen, it's really horrible, like.
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Honest, I like. I don't even know how this
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happens to. Since the trade, JT Miller has
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12 points. Yeah, a lot of Patterson is.
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Yeah, Charles, whatever. Crazy nuts.
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It's actually crazy. Were you gonna?
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Say I was gonna say we have some breaking news on a trade, kind
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of drop it on the pod. Yeah, like just Avin.
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Yeah, just happened right now. Oh my God.
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I mean not a huge trade but like some some fantasy relevant guys
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in deeper in. Deeper leagues like future
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considerations. Derek for future.
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No, but Michael Bunting traded from Pittsburgh to Nashville
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from 4. Tommy Novak and Luke Shen.
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What? Yeah, very serious.
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So if you're holding Luke Shen on Nashville for bangers for
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playoffs, I mean, his schedule just gets decently worse.
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Yeah, that's crazy though. Buntings out for like the season
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he's just got. He got he had like I don't know
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if it was appendicitis or something, but like he's on IR.
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I guess Nashville doesn't care. They want him for long.
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Term, probably, yeah. I mean, he's a young guy.
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Like he can, yeah. They're trading away all their
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good young. Guys, yeah, that's good.
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He's good. Yeah, he is what?
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I mean, Bunting is good too, so I'll give you that.
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And like, she's pretty old, but like, that's a weird trade.
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Yeah, well, I I feel like, you know, natural wanna keep the
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young guys not on a team to compete like Novak.
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You want. You wouldn't want to get.
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Rid of That's it. They got it.
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And then they got rid of Pittsburgh in last.
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Year gives away bunting for Luke Shen, who's not gonna be
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relevant to them next year, Probably.
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Yeah, that's like another old guy that's not.
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Feel like the Luke, she's kind of like a throw in, like
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realistically. Because it was some 4th and 5th
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round picks involved in this table.
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Not really. It's not competing anytime soon
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and by the time they're competing again, like she's not
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going to be on their team. So I view it as a throw in and
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then so it's pretty much a one for one.
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Yeah. Both team get kind of young guy
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although Michael Bunting's like 40 years old but like.
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This to me says that Raquel is more likely on the move because
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I think maybe I'll try to play Novak with Crosby.
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That could be Novak Centre though.
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Yeah, but like, I'm looking at their centre depth.
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What, they're gonna put him instead of Cody Gloss on the
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fourth line? That's strange.
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You know what I mean? Kevin Hayes third line, maybe
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Mulkin second and Crosby for Yeah, you know what I mean
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about. Bing Crosby or Malkin?
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Play on the wing, though. Yeah, that could maybe work,
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Yeah. Star started saying.
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Anymore through no effect on your watch list.
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Yes, you stand on your watch list too.
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I mean, he's always good for bangers.
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Maybe being on the Penguins randomly makes him even.
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More. Maybe he gets more ice time, I
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don't know. I can't imagine him getting more
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ice time on the Penguins, but who knows.
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I would definitely. Anytime a trade happens, I.
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Talked to watch just. To see yeah, cool live trade.
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Man live trade. Yeah, that was fun.
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Yeah. All right now, big trade.
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Yeah. Death Jones was traded to
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Florida for Spencer Knight. Jones lauded into line 2 for
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management and power play 2 while Knights started
15:48
immediately and had a ridiculously good game night.
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Could be a solid pickup for volume rest of season and Jones
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value decreases with the trade and loss of ice time.
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Yeah, I just don't see him bumping Eckblad off power Play
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one. I could see.
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It I can see it too. But I think it's like I saw like
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a quote recently where he was like, I'm just happy to be on a
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team that can win and fully, I'm fully aware.
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That he doesn't care if he plays keep you one or whatever, he
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just wants to be in that can win the.
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Cup, that's it. He was pretty much like, I'm
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very happy. Like even if I have like a
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reduced role, I'll do my best in whatever role I'm put in and
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blah, blah, blah, you know? But like, yeah.
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So I think if they wanted him on power play one, they would have
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put him right off the bat. I think at the very least
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explains getting first shot. Because it's been honestly
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pretty decent on the property as of late.
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But if it slows down and whatever then they can.
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I'm sure they can switch things up.
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That's pretty. Much it.
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Yeah, I think. Great for them IRL.
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Though. IRL for the playoffs I think
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they needed another huge D because Xbox has been squishy
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and. Trade for Florida like short
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term, which is what they want because they are win now team
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long term. I think it's gonna be a big, I
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think Spencer and it's gonna be a great goalie in the NHL.
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But they drafted him and then he know he had off the issues and
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also, like, Bob just rejuvenated his career to.
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Yeah. So you can't be paying Bob that
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much. It's like, it's like Saros and
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Askarov, right? Like they ask for the future,
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but Soros is still just that guy.
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Yeah, he's been that guy. You can't get rid of him.
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Yeah, I don't know why they picked Knight.
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Never made sense. I guess like if you go to the
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best player available, you know. Like like a 13th overall or 15th
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overall pick for a goalie. Super high like super.
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They got, they got, they got a top pairing defenseman in
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return. Yeah, it worked out for.
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The playoff push, right? You can always trade these guys
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for. Yeah.
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I really think this is just excellent for both Ira.
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This is a great move by Chicago, to be honest.
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Like, I think he wanted out, you know, You know, they wanted to
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get. Rid of him and they got a great
17:33
asset. In return, yeah.
17:34
And they got a first round pick. Yeah.
17:36
So no, that's that's great. And I think Spencer Knight, I
17:39
mean, if we talk about his fantasy value right now, I think
17:43
he immediately becomes a guy that's worth holding.
17:46
I think he's a guy like assuming Gibsons injured or traded.
17:50
I view him very similar to like Lukas Dostal, you know, like one
17:53
of. Those guys are the best team but
17:55
will be pretty solid as a good goalie.
17:57
Has room to develop. You know, on a on a fun team to
18:00
watch. Yep, Yep.
18:03
Gustav Nyquist was traded to Minnesota and slaughtered.
18:06
Line one Power Play 2. Yeah, I think he started off on
18:09
power play one, but then on to power play 2.
18:13
I spent some money on him but I mean I'm probably drop him.
18:15
This week. So I was gonna say I'm I'm not a
18:17
big fan. I think I think a speculative ad
18:19
made sense because of how injured they were.
18:22
He had plenty of opportunity to really jump in, but I just don't
18:25
think the wild are that good of a team without capris off and
18:28
Marks and X. So like even I've got like I've
18:30
got Boldy and Zuccarello right now and I think other than Boldy
18:35
and. Like I mean got bumped offline
18:36
one. Yeah, I know.
18:37
So I'd say like really on the wild forward right now with
18:39
their injuries, I think Bold is the only like great own.
18:43
Then Zuccarello and Rossi are both like solid, but there's
18:46
really no one else I'd be interested in owning on that
18:48
team. Even if I don't, there's a
18:50
single defence mode on that team.
18:51
I don't feel like bangers. Yeah, I took a stab at him
18:53
because, you know, the deployment was great in the past
18:55
playoff schedule as well, and I had an open spot for that type
18:59
of player. Made sense.
19:01
But like after two games were kind of seeing that, you know,
19:04
show volumes. Low is playing 15 minutes.
19:06
He's not on P1. So yeah, long term it doesn't
19:09
look like it will succeed. I wouldn't be surprised if he
19:11
has a hot streak, you know, gets a couple of points in a few
19:13
games, gets picked up again. But it seems like ultimately it
19:16
won't be fancy relevant. Yeah, this is like, it's just
19:20
tough for guys like this to make a real impression on their new
19:23
team. Point specific.
19:24
And he's not a superstar, you know?
19:26
But they said when they're going to make another move, to be
19:28
honest, because the way they made this move for Nyquist, I
19:30
think they still retained salary, if I'm not mistaken,
19:34
Nashville. So they they have room to make
19:36
another move. And I think that's what we're
19:38
gonna do. They said they wanna Nyquist as
19:39
like an insurance policy in case something doesn't happen or they
19:42
keep getting injuries or whatnot.
19:43
The only tough thing with them is that they've kind of
19:46
committed to both Kaprizov and Erickson coming back in the
19:48
regular season, so they can't do the LIRR loophole.
19:50
So they don't have as much money to like play with.
19:52
Us. We don't know that yet.
19:54
I mean, like the GM like did say like they're both coming back in
19:57
the regular season. Obviously things could change,
19:59
but like if. You're planning to step back in
20:01
the injury. Yeah, I mean, usually if you're
20:02
planning on doing the TR loophole, you like kind of like
20:04
set the scene, you're like, oh, like he's he's cooked, you know,
20:07
like he he'll maybe come back for game one of the playoffs if
20:10
we're lucky, you know. So yeah, usually they don't say
20:12
he's coming. Back.
20:13
It's gonna be good. In real life, Capresso is gonna
20:15
be left wing first line and then Nyquist left wing second line
20:19
with. Probably, yeah.
20:21
Yeah, it's nice actually. But yeah, fantasy relevant.
20:25
Like just don't see it happening really OK.
20:28
Big news. Horrible news, Matthew to Chuck
20:32
officially out for the season. Bennett takes his spot on power
20:34
play. One horrible news for Chuck
20:36
owners. Yeah, no, that's brutal.
20:38
I mean, this is like 2 pieces of news that this one and the Jack
20:41
Hughes, that's two first rounders or like late 1st early
20:44
second round guys who? Are just out for the season like
20:47
that's. Really brutal.
20:48
There's just, this is the type of thing you just can't do
20:50
anything about, you know, it's just bad luck and it sucks.
20:56
Rodriguez and that's it. If Bennett's available in your
20:59
league, then snap him up. I doubt he's available in any
21:03
league that counts what he's good at, which is like Pimms and
21:07
hits. That's it.
21:09
But yeah, no, just just sucks for owners and for Florida.
21:14
I mean, he's out for the regular season.
21:16
I don't think they said he's out.
21:17
It's not like Jack Hughes. Like I think I think Chuck will
21:20
be back for the. Playoffs.
21:21
Jack is gonna be back for playoffs now.
21:22
No, he's out. Out he had shoulder surgery and
21:24
they said that he'll be back training camp next.
21:26
Year or like? He's he's out.
21:28
Out. Wow.
21:29
OK, they don't care about the playoffs anymore.
21:31
The Devils, that's I'm saying, I really don't think that.
21:34
I think they can honestly drop out of the playoffs depending.
21:37
On how the project is not gonna do their best to make the
21:39
playoffs. Yeah, if Doug is heard, not
21:41
gonna risk Dougie. Unless they decide to buy they
21:44
have that LTIR space now if his contracts have like 8 miles to
21:47
play with. But.
21:48
They could maybe make a move and then for this year and then see.
21:51
For next year, loophole only really works when you expect the
21:54
guy to come back in the playoffs, you know, now you're
21:56
just trying to replace like, yeah, like for.
21:58
One year, then if it's you can hold for next year too.
22:01
But then they won't have the cap space once use.
22:02
Comes back, yeah, but they can make some stuff happen.
22:06
That would be crazy. I did see, I did see that
22:09
Caroline is doing their due diligence.
22:10
Yeah, if anyone. Wanted Carolina retains 25% of
22:13
his contract. His his his his.
22:16
You know it's going to be two point something mil to get
22:18
random on your team for the rest of the season.
22:20
Like playoff teams must be salivating.
22:22
God damn it. I know the Habs got random it.
22:27
Before our playoff push. We're gonna make the playoffs,
22:29
guys. I think so too.
22:30
I'm very hopium right now. I fully bought in actually.
22:35
Like I was talking to my dad like a week or something to go
22:38
after the haves. Like just came back from the
22:39
break and have one good game. Like the haves are making the
22:41
playoffs. And I was like, you know what?
22:42
We're playing Carolina tonight. If we beat them all, join you on
22:45
the bandwagon and then we shut them out for nothing.
22:47
All right, that's on the poop, you know.
22:52
Yeah, just to say one of us had Habs finishing ahead of the
22:56
Bruins in the standings. Honestly, that that was your
22:59
logic was extremely flawed, but it's gonna.
23:01
Work out for you. It's the same in.
23:03
A broken clock is. Exactly.
23:05
Yeah, it's the same guy who had natural first in the central
23:08
focus on the win. Also Mackie Samutsevich on
23:12
Florida. Why wouldn't Jones replace him?
23:15
Potentially. You don't.
23:16
Think it's gonna do it? I think that could work, yeah.
23:19
You know what, it really depends.
23:20
I don't see why they wouldn't. Like, he's definitely not walk
23:22
there. No, there's no way.
23:23
No, it's true. I think Jones can.
23:24
Maybe it's more just. That I think we're really that's
23:27
yeah that's yeah that way what makes sense some of.
23:31
These coaches. They're gonna be back, Galaxy.
23:34
Brain themselves. To yeah, yeah, people keep
23:36
taking a page out of Rods playbook.
23:38
Exactly. All right.
23:40
Jacob Markstrom is healthy and returned to the lineup on
23:43
Sunday. Allen is a drop now.
23:46
Wow, you did not hold back. His only value was marks from
23:49
being injured. So job great for Markstrom
23:52
owners, but again, with these news of like the Jack Hughes
23:55
injury and like possibly Hamilton injury, great goalie,
23:59
but like yeah, exactly the team as a whole is gonna take.
24:01
It actually sucks to have held him this whole time.
24:03
And then he comes. Back and then it just he comes
24:05
back to the worst possible. Situation.
24:07
You know that? Like, you know, like a
24:08
community. Yep.
24:10
And Troy leaves, and then he comes back holding the pizza and
24:13
everything's on. Fire.
24:15
Yeah, I've seen that movie that's like.
24:17
Markstrom coming back. From injury.
24:18
Literally what happens if the universe is this?
24:26
OK, Vitek, Vanecek traded to the Panthers.
24:29
We'll back up a Brovsky and could be good for quality starts
24:32
on any back to backs coming up. They have five more back to
24:35
backs this season. Huge.
24:37
Yeah, he's been kind of like up and down in his career.
24:39
He got the shot to be the New Jersey guy.
24:40
Didn't work out, so I don't know how good of a goal he actually
24:44
is. As a goalie, but just being on
24:46
the Panthers. Yeah, he'll be another streaming
24:49
option to have when back to backs are happening.
24:53
And they have a lot of back-to-back.
24:54
The end of the season. Five as well, yeah.
24:56
So he'll get, he'll get plenty of shots.
24:58
You're not picking him up. You're just like Adam sure
25:00
watched this when you need a goalie starting as a
25:01
back-to-back happening like he's one of the names.
25:03
Considering he's never properly like the only time he was a high
25:09
quality backup tandem guy was on Washington and then they traded
25:12
him to New Jersey to be the guy. Somebody just don't have it in
25:15
them to be starters. So I think he could be a really
25:17
good complementary goalie for the Panthers like.
25:20
Truly get the back to backs playing way too well too unless
25:23
they want to arrest him leading up.
25:24
And we know that. We know that Bob likes his rest
25:27
Yeah to play out the best performance.
25:29
The last couple years, Florida specifically, I think like
25:31
they've rested Bob towards the end of the season like a lion.
25:35
He played a bunch of games. I think Stollers played some
25:37
games like the last couple of. Years line going to the playoffs
25:39
and then Bob take over so. If you're in a deep league where
25:44
there's like this is one of your better goalie options on the
25:46
waiver wire, I'd consider that. I mean, I wouldn't pick him up
25:50
anytime soon. You have.
25:51
To like if you you're dropping Alan right now and you need a
25:53
new goalie like pick up Banachek.
25:55
No, but I wouldn't hold any check for like weeks hoping that
25:57
he'll eventually get more stars. So this is more of like a pickup
25:59
with like 2 weeks left in the season when like once they're
26:02
showing signs of actually resting because you can't hold
26:04
on to a guy who's gonna play zero games in a.
26:05
Week Yeah, our last tidbit. Yanni Gourde and Oliver
26:10
Bjorkstrand traded to Tampa Bay for Esmont and draft picks.
26:14
I mean two first round picks so. Yeah, I just didn't include like
26:17
the details. It doesn't affect fantasy.
26:19
Yeah, I know, I know. But it's just like, you know,
26:21
Tampa at it again. First, you know, now it's Gordon
26:24
Bjorkstrand. Yeah, I will say their first of
26:26
these types of trades was for Brandon Hagel, and that one
26:28
worked out insanely. Yeah, literally used.
26:30
Them for their Would you trade for zombies for Brandon Brandon
26:33
Hagel right now? Probably Probably right if it's
26:35
four late round picks. Bjorkstrand now is better than
26:38
Hagel was when they traded him there.
26:40
So, you know, obviously it's not gonna happen.
26:43
But like, you know, the Cooper is such a good coach.
26:46
Yeah. Cooper gets the most out of his
26:48
place like no other. So I was.
26:50
Getting know, Yeah. I was gonna say, I know Tampa
26:52
loves Gorge, so they're really excited.
26:54
About him, I think he might be fantasy relevant honestly as I
26:57
thought he was like. I thought he was more fantasy
26:59
relevant on Seattle and I expect both him and jerks trying to
27:02
lose value here just cause they're gonna be buried under
27:04
much more talented lineup Seattle.
27:06
Is really surprised their place dial and like performance gets
27:09
better and because of that they get more fantasy relevant but
27:13
we'll see like I mean. Regardless, whenever that
27:15
relevant points wise, I mean they were a little bit, I think
27:18
they're definitely gonna lose points because.
27:20
Like I can see gourd as the three C's, like being relevant
27:24
in deep leagues that have face off wins.
27:25
You know what? I.
27:25
Mean I could see that. And Bjorkstrand, like right now,
27:29
he's logged into line 2 with Cirelli and Hegel.
27:31
So that's interesting. And line 3 is Paul Gourd
27:34
Goncalves. So what?
27:37
That's how you say his name. I.
27:38
Thought it was John calves. Why do I just assume they're all
27:44
friends? Brayden Point No, I I actually
27:53
Really. Like I think they really helped
27:55
their middle 6. I think it.
27:56
Really does. This is a great trade.
27:58
In real life, like, I think this is a great move for them.
28:00
Like they're parts earlier this season where I was counting them
28:03
out. I think at this point they're
28:04
very much a contender again. I mean it also helps that
28:06
Vasilevsky decide to play like prime Vasilevsky so.
28:08
Fantasy points wise, I actually think trans gonna.
28:11
Do I mean he'll get some he's getting line 2P2 time.
28:14
So if you're looking for somebody that has power play
28:16
exposure like he just became available and your way is most
28:19
likely but. Do we there's like a real power
28:22
play one and two because like Chafee's on power play one at
28:25
the. Moment, I know.
28:25
Trust still on both of them. No, no, no.
28:27
OK, well, whichever. One keep you one now is point
28:30
future of Gensel Headmen Chafee. Yeah, yeah.
28:34
But then. 2 front. Yeah.
28:38
It's not a bad power play too, but I mean.
28:40
It's good to you when you show. The power play 1 is that good
28:42
you don't get as. Many whichever 1 Kucherov was on
28:44
his. Power.
28:44
That's it, 100%, yeah. Like you might play on both
28:47
anyway. I think, I think I'm lower on
28:48
them on these two than than you guys.
28:50
Are I'm thinking deep leagues, right, like not in a 14 team
28:53
league that there'll be people to consider during the 12 team
28:56
league that has, you know, big Ross like 20 plus players that
29:00
you have face off wins as well. Like I think those are, they
29:02
become instantly streamable. Yeah, I just, I honestly, I
29:05
think I liked them more on Seattle as fantasy assets.
29:09
Let's move on to the Would you rather segment.
29:13
Should I read some of them? No hold.
29:14
On. Ohhhhh freezing.
29:18
So obviously now the trade deadlines have passed, I think
29:22
the would you rather I'm I'm I decided to make it more towards
29:25
guys that are lower in roster percentage.
29:28
So we can talk about, you know, guys that maybe fringe on your
29:30
roster or maybe available on waivers and how they stack up
29:33
against each other and who maybe take a shot at the rest of the
29:35
season. Throw you off your other.
29:38
It didn't work out. And corrupt the Gotham's white
29:42
knight. Sorry.
29:43
Oh my God. Or Brown Knight, I don't know.
29:48
OK, so rest of season, would you rather Ryan O'Reilly or Elias
29:54
Lindholm? Ryan O'reilly's 35% owned,
29:57
Lindholm 34% owned. So they're kind of in the same
29:59
bracket right there. For me, I'm going O'Reilly
30:03
overland home. Yeah, I think.
30:05
Is it the playoff? Schedule.
30:06
The playoff schedule helps. I think O'Reilly gets more
30:08
points than home. Like guaranteed he's lined One
30:10
power play one versus Lindholm was line 2 power play one.
30:12
Hmm, well those been killing it though lately.
30:14
I mean, he's been doing really well for backup, but it's like
30:18
he's been doing much points whereas O'Reilly has actually
30:20
been getting a lot of points lately, so.
30:22
For some reason Lindholm became a monster and shots over the
30:25
last like. Three weeks.
30:26
I like blind homes shots and hits more, but I think the
30:30
points upside on O'Reilly makes me prefer him and the playoff
30:33
schedule. Jake, what do you think?
30:35
Probably O'Reilly as well. Yeah, yeah, I just.
30:39
He closed down 30% of leagues and he's, you know, line one
30:42
people one on Nashville who still has some stars there.
30:44
Right, yeah. I just think they're peripherals
30:46
are similar enough. It's not much of a difference
30:49
maker, but the points I would say are more reliably gonna come
30:53
from O'Reilly. Yeah.
30:56
All right. Next one.
30:57
Spicy. These guys are not the same
30:59
archetype, but would rather on your team for the rest of the
31:01
fantasy season. Ken Johnson 27% owned or Brayden
31:05
Schenn, 30% owned. I gotta go with Brayden Schenn
31:09
on this one. I think Johnson's been
31:12
absolutely unreal points wise in a points league.
31:14
No question I'm going Johnson, but this is really, this is
31:17
Bangor management after all. So yeah, I just think the floor
31:23
of Brayden Schenn combined with his points potential because he
31:26
has been putting up points also getting to play with like
31:28
everyone. Holloway is like, really?
31:30
You might get traded though, but I think Blues are now in the
31:32
playoff mix. So like, yeah, we don't want to
31:34
sell anymore. That's it.
31:35
Yeah. So I think Johnson gets more
31:37
points than Shannon, but I think the back cats difference for
31:39
Shen will make up more than make up for it.
31:41
So I'm going Shen. Same.
31:43
Yeah I think Shen just does too much like non points wise to not
31:49
be the pig here. Almost certain, like, OK, I'm
31:53
like fairly certain in Bangor League Shen, but like in points,
31:57
definitely Johnson. I know we're dealing with
31:59
beggars. No, I agree.
32:00
But like, I'm like way more confidence than Ken Johnson's
32:03
voice. But I think that the floor and
32:05
what he could do for your team. Brayden Schenn, like I'd rather
32:07
him. Yeah.
32:09
Yeah, Shannon for you too. Yeah, then for me.
32:12
All right, next one, Spicy drops.
32:13
Would love this. Jason Zucker who is currently
32:16
hurt, 21% owned versus Quentin Byfield, 42% owned.
32:22
I like what I field. I think I would take a healthy
32:25
sucker over By Field. I just think that sucker's been
32:28
doing this well all season, whereas By Fields only just
32:31
recently starting doing this well, but and they both have the
32:35
same playoff schedule. Obviously there's the soccer
32:37
injury, but but yeah, I would take soccer over by Fields.
32:40
But I like Byfield a lot. I have on my team and and I
32:43
think he's really these types of guys who are like these high
32:45
draft picks but underperforming. I feel like they always do
32:47
really well towards the end of the season.
32:49
Yeah, and you know what else it does?
32:50
Why field? He gets to play with second-half
32:52
Fiala. That all those points for the
32:55
last 30 days are assessed, Yeah, yeah, that's a good sign.
33:00
Who's gonna look like a foundation?
33:02
Yeah, it's. Like the opposite of one.
33:04
Soccer scores a lot of goals. Yeah, it's like the opposite
33:06
when you say all these points are goals, they must be.
33:08
It must regress, you know? Yeah, when all of them are
33:10
assist, I feel like it regresses the other way cause he's got to
33:12
score some. Goals.
33:12
Yeah, and I don't think that necessarily means we'll be
33:14
getting less, just like two goals added into the mix.
33:17
His minutes have been sick all. Year.
33:18
The biggest difference, I think, is Zucker's power play
33:21
production like it's. Really awesome, super solid
33:24
power play 1. So deployment wise, you gotta go
33:27
sucker. Hmm.
33:29
Alright, next one. Vlasic or Hanafin.
33:34
Vlasic, 10% owned and you power play one quarterback in Chicago
33:39
or Noah Hanifin 67% owned. He's had a big name, right?
33:42
So he's been on Ross when he shouldn't be.
33:44
Yeah, but now he's the one guy there and you know, he's getting
33:46
a lot of points. Yeah, I really like this one,
33:48
but Vlasic, yeah, I just, I don't, I like, I mean, there's a
33:54
reason when a player is starts on power play 1, gets demoted
34:00
and then goes back there, especially when it's a
34:02
defenseman because of an injury, that's usually like not a good
34:06
sign. Otherwise it would have been
34:07
there the whole time. You know what I mean?
34:08
If you're comparing this to someone who's been like a
34:10
mainstay on their power play all year, then I would that would be
34:13
really serious. But the only reason Vlasic
34:15
wasn't there because Seth Jones was clearly, clearly a better
34:19
player. But I think that when Jones was
34:22
hurt and Vlasic was the the mainstay on that power play, it
34:26
was really, really nice to see how well he was doing.
34:29
It's a fun team. They're a young team and I think
34:32
that power play points are gonna go classics way and it's going
34:35
to be a lot of fun. I'm going to go with Hannafin on
34:38
this one. I think just Vegas is such a
34:42
better team than than Chicago. They have.
34:45
He gets to play with equal on power play 1.
34:47
And I think Eichel is really unreal, especially this year.
34:50
So I think Anna's gonna get more points.
34:52
He's gonna get more power play points.
34:53
He gets way more shots than Vlasic.
34:56
The only thing that I give LASIK over Hennepin is blocks.
34:58
He is like much more blocks. But I think I'd rather get the
35:01
shots and the points and power play points from Hannafin.
35:04
I think, I think Hennepin's really kind of come into his own
35:07
with the extra, you know, the extra responsibility these last
35:11
couple weeks since the Four Nations faced off in Theodore
35:13
being out. I do really like Alex last rest
35:15
of season. I think he's a strong pickup in
35:17
your league, especially, you know, in deeper leagues where
35:20
there's not really many power play quarterbacks available on
35:23
waivers. The blocks are really the only
35:25
thing that differentiates them in terms of like what they hit
35:27
category wise. So it's nice to get the extra
35:29
like, you know, over like around 2 blocks a game from LASIK.
35:32
A little less maybe, But Hannafin, you've just been on
35:35
fire. He's getting shots.
35:36
He's on the power play. I think maybe come end of the
35:40
season, velocity ends up being like better than he is.
35:43
I think he's young, right, So he can he just got paid to like
35:45
he's like a my product could be their quarterback of the future,
35:49
right. So maybe he's developing some
35:51
chemistry with bar, like he has a room to be improved into what
35:54
he's doing right right now. But yeah, I'm going to take the
35:58
reliability of head of him being just like a, you know, star NHL
36:01
and like a good guy to have even though his category coverage is
36:04
worse. Yeah, nice.
36:06
Alright, last one goalie time, Sam Ursin 26% owned or Spencer
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Knight 24% owned the rest of season.
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Damn, that's a tough one. Yeah.
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I think tonight. Yeah, say it in the mic.
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Spencer Night, but it's so close.
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We've seen Ersin be like honestly a revelation for
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fantasy. You know, Philly is not a the
36:34
best team in the league and yet he's been like really solid.
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He's one weeks on his own in our league specifically, we seen him
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have like his lows. Just last game he was 2 for
36:44
five. But Spencer Knight, you know,
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he's coming into all these volume starts.
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He's a good goalie, too. Chicago's kind of fun.
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How much worse can Chicago get though?
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Like we know how bad Chicago. Is I don't really get anywhere.
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They just stay the same. That's what I'm.
36:59
Saying but stable, Yeah. But Philly can get a lot.
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Worse, Yeah. Well, honestly, I view, I know
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that Philly's decently higher in the standings, but to me they're
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both bottom feeder teams. So like, I don't really view the
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team as that much of a difference for both of them.
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I think Knights the more talented goalie, but I think
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Ursin has proven this year that he can be really good.
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Is very like, very streaky, but like, I've been really impressed
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with him for like, really long stretches.
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Yeah. So that's just more like
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unproven. Like on this new team he had one
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insane game. So I'm like super into the hype
37:30
and I think he's a really great player and like gonna be a
37:32
really good player. It's really tough, honestly.
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This one, yeah. It sounds really feels like a
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coin flip, I guess, like I'm trying to picture like my team
37:40
assuming I had an empty coli slot and I had to choose one for
37:43
rest this season. I think I might go Ursin just
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cause of what he's done so far this year.
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Like I just think like even though, like you said, he just
37:50
had a he's like maybe on a bad stretch right now.
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And trust me, I do not think the Flyers are anything good, but
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just he's had really, really long stretches of solid play.
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So I think I would go there and. I'm going Spencer night and my
38:03
logic is I feel like towards the end of the season, Philly is
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going to really regress. We're gonna sell players off
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their team as well. Where I feel like Knight is
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coming into a situation where, you know, he was the backup
38:13
playing very minimal games, finally gets the opportunity to
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just like play a lot of games and have fun and like develop
38:19
too. So I think he gets the
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opportunity to know, showcase his stuff with a lot of volume.
38:24
I think he works his way into like being a really good fantasy
38:26
goalie. Whereas Arsenic can feel like
38:28
his volatility will be stronger. And if I want something in my
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fantasy, I want the less volatile asset, especially when
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it comes to goalies. For one more game of sample
38:39
sizes like yeah, so much. He's not gonna get 40 saves
38:43
every game, right? Like he'll probably get go 20
38:45
for 24 next game or something and get the hell.
38:47
But yeah, that's my reasoning. It was just encouraging to see.
38:52
And like, honestly, look, I don't think that Chicago is
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going to be a force by any means, but like I think that
38:57
they could get a bit better. And if Philly does make moves or
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going to get substantially worse.
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So that's true. There's already like
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inconsistency baked into the cake with arson that we've seen
39:07
with Spencer and it. At least there's that known.
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And because of that, I think there's something.
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Encouraging. Yeah.
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You know, I guess I will say persons like kind of a known
39:14
quantity. And Knight is a lottery ticket.
39:16
Yeah. Anderson's not a valuable enough
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known quantity, yeah, that I wouldn't be willing to drop him
39:21
for a lottery ticket. That's kind of how I felt.
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So like with Vanicek, we were saying not to do this right, but
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these two be guys who would pick up.
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If you're going to be the backup where you know I'm saying.
39:31
So if you're dropping Jake Allen, you're gonna pick up a
39:33
new goalie. Between these two I would
39:36
probably pick up. Nights, I'll take night for the
39:38
upside. I think designing us person has
39:39
a better floor, but when you're picking up a goalie like this,
39:42
like you gotta be going like, you know, for the upside.
39:44
Yeah, at this point in the season.
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Exactly. Like erson higher floor, lower
39:48
ceiling height, opposite. Yeah, that was, that was a
39:51
really good series, Kevin, not gonna lie.
39:53
Like these were, these were tough.
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These were tough. Were good ones.
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