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Ashton Jeanty Suffers Apparent Ankle Injury, Browns need to part ways with Deshaun Watson, George Kittle Activated off PUP · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on? My people? How are
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Speaker 1: we doing? John? God that we meet. Three and Out
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Speaker 1: is kind of coming to an end, but that also
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Speaker 1: means football is starting, college football, NFL football. We've got
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Speaker 1: stories galore. You know Ashton Genty, I went out with Colin.
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Speaker 1: talked about a lot of stuff. I'll piggyback a little
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Speaker 1: bit on the Deshaun Watson stuff. We had some news
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Speaker 1: on Ashton Genty, George Kittle, JJ McCarthy got banged up
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Speaker 1: and didn't play well. I had an experience of a
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Speaker 1: lifetime this weekend. I want to hit on just something
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Speaker 1: But we'll definitely put some content there, you know, as
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Speaker 1: football season keeps going. So anything that misses the podcast
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Speaker 1: try to throw up there. Yeah, let's just dive right
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Speaker 1: into the Ashton Genty news. Now by the time you're
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Speaker 1: listening to this if on Monday, I'm sure MRIs and
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Speaker 1: they'll have a better feel for what happened. And who knows.
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Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes these are season enders and other times
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Speaker 1: they are a player who freaks out because it feels
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Speaker 1: like a season ender. He tears his knee and it
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Speaker 1: turns out it's not as bad. You never know. But
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Speaker 1: one thing that is not debatable, And we just saw
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Speaker 1: the Chargers center, who they just paid some money, have
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Speaker 1: a player thrown into him in a joint practice and
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Speaker 1: just got placed today on season ending injured reserve. And
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Speaker 1: now their second round pick from Florida. I think Jack Slaughters.
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Speaker 1: His name Jake Slaughter, Jack Slaughter. We'll take over for him,
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Speaker 1: and I just don't think there are many billion dollar
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Speaker 1: businesses that can be so impacted on something that no
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Speaker 1: one has any control over. I mean, it really is crazy,
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Speaker 1: the power of football. How one injury. I was thinking
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Speaker 1: about this actually today because I saw a bo Nicks.
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Speaker 1: I know he played well and the limited snaps he
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Speaker 1: got yesterday a couple of days ago. But when that
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Speaker 1: news came out like they had just beat the Denver Broncos,
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Speaker 1: they were going to the AFC Champions Game. Then ten
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Speaker 1: minutes after the game, Sean Payton has to come back
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Speaker 1: and go. Bnix broke his ankle. He's gonna have surgery tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: He's obviously can't play next week. Well, we're rolling with Stidham.
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Speaker 1: You're like, what how we have seen some catastrophic injuries.
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Speaker 1: We have seen some injuries this offseason that were like, hey,
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Speaker 1: we think he's out for the season. Then he's only
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Speaker 1: gonna miss a couple of weeks. Then he gets surgery.
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Speaker 1: Like in regular business, bad news, you know, unless you're
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Speaker 1: like an insider, it's like, oh, the CEO steps down
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Speaker 1: and the stock will go down seven percent or ten percent, right,
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Speaker 1: or earnings miss and depending on how big, your company is,
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Speaker 1: your your stock will be down a little bit, but
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Speaker 1: then the next day we'll come and if the market's up,
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Speaker 1: you usually draft off that and you go back up right.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes listen, remember Chipotley, whether they have the bad chicken
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Speaker 1: or beef. Like, there are individual instances that can derail
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Speaker 1: a company or set a company back. But at any
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Speaker 1: game moment in football, whether it's in the training room,
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Speaker 1: you know, like working out, whether it's training on your own,
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Speaker 1: whether it's a practice, and obviously the games, it's like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he just shattered his knee. And again, I'm a huge
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Speaker 1: fan of what Spytech is doing. I think they were
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Speaker 1: gonna be way more competitive. Someone told me that around
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Speaker 1: the operation that Genti had looked fantastic in the practices
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Speaker 1: this year. Just looked like he was gonna be really
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Speaker 1: good and it was gonna be somewhat dependent you know,
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Speaker 1: how much their offensive line improved. He's a guy that
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Speaker 1: some people are gonna pick really high in these fantasy drafts. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, potentially again by the time
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Speaker 1: you listen to this, maybe not, but like when there's
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Speaker 1: a moment and at these practices which he heard and
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Speaker 1: in practice according to a report, he was diving for
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Speaker 1: a ball. I don't know if you know, he got
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Speaker 1: like overextended, he's you know, in the air and came
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Speaker 1: down funky on his leg and then all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden couldn't put any pressure on it, and the entire team.
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Speaker 1: Like practice ins right, the practice at a training camp
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Speaker 1: doesn't end for a random guy. It just doesn't. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's a cut throw business. But if some random guy
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Speaker 1: rips his knee and he's a guy that's not gonna
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Speaker 1: make the team move the drill, keep it rolling. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it sucks. But when you have a prominent player on
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Speaker 1: any team, good or bad, I mean, obviously the Raiders
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Speaker 1: said the number one overall pick, but this guy was
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Speaker 1: a six pick in the draft, and this was a
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Speaker 1: guy that they were clearly going to depend on in
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Speaker 1: this offense, and with Kubiak to be a key, core
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Speaker 1: contributor and a guy that I think a lot of
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Speaker 1: people if you're projecting out what he could be twelve
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Speaker 1: thirteen hundred yards, you know, ten touchdowns, catch another forty
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Speaker 1: to fifty balls, and just be a big time player.
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Speaker 1: And just like that, in a random, one individual rep
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Speaker 1: just ends potentially and he's not alone. No different, You're
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Speaker 1: at charge practice. I got our offensive line, we got
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Speaker 1: the center, we got two good tackles. It's really coming together.
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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, the guy gets thrown into his
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Speaker 1: knee boom. Season over and it just can happen that quickly,
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Speaker 1: and obviously once the games come, you just never know.
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Speaker 1: And the Bonnick situation is the best example of everything
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Speaker 1: was fine. They had just won a game, and then
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Speaker 1: it turns out when he's taking a shoe off, something
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Speaker 1: is wrong and it gets some imaging, you get a
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Speaker 1: broken foot. It's like what And that's how fast it happens.
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Speaker 1: We love this game, uh, but it also has this
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Speaker 1: element of unpredictability that just sucks. I mean, no one
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Speaker 1: wants to ever watch the backups the guy. These guys
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Speaker 1: are starters for a reason. These guys are high picks
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Speaker 1: for a reason. And I keep my fingers crossed on that.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of a more negative story is uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: with Colin I we talked a lot about Deshaun Watson.
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Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna beat a dead horse here, Like
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Speaker 1: I would say you universally that this would be one
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Speaker 1: of those like ninety nine to one issues and the
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Speaker 1: one would be like Watson, Mogeta, his family, the agency
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Speaker 1: that represents Mogeta. You know ci, I think like people
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Speaker 1: profiting off Deshn Watson like, ah, things are good. Everyone
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Speaker 1: else is like, this is the most toxic situation I
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Speaker 1: can remember. And I think, sometimes you just gotta cut
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Speaker 1: dead weight, you gotta cut the anchor. And I don't
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Speaker 1: really do in my life people that are a lot
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Speaker 1: of drama. I try to avoid unless you're one of
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Speaker 1: my close friends from way back in the day, like
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Speaker 1: negative people, because I myself can be negative. I don't
7:39
Speaker 1: need more negativity around me, Like I like uplifting, positive,
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Speaker 1: fun people. That's who I try to associate with. And
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine being in business with someone who is
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Speaker 1: just a drain on the entire organization. And you know,
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Speaker 1: his comments after the game went viral like he doesn't understand. Well,
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Speaker 1: of course he doesn't understand. He's made hundreds of millions
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Speaker 1: playing football. He had every massage therapist in the state
8:09
Speaker 1: of Texas coming after him for a rub and tug
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Speaker 1: that some say we're not consensual, and uh. He demanded
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Speaker 1: a trade, and he got his wishes and then got
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Speaker 1: the biggest contract in NFL history when it came to
8:21
Speaker 1: guaranteed money, which I still think stands, but maybe that's
8:24
Speaker 1: been dwarfed. Did mahomes just get more regardless, it's that
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Speaker 1: points that's beside the point. It's just this is fans.
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Speaker 1: When you are a terrible player and you make a
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Speaker 1: lot of money and off the field, you make everyone uncomfortable.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no one's gonna like you. And we talked
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Speaker 1: about this with AJ and Jalen in that situation, like
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Speaker 1: you don't have to like everyone you work with. By
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Speaker 1: some reports, like it's not even that Deshaun is not
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Speaker 1: liked in his own life, He's not liked by the
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Speaker 1: most important people the paying customer. Sports is one of
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Speaker 1: the only places where the product can like talk shit
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Speaker 1: about the consumer, which is like indirectly paying them a
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Speaker 1: ton of money. And it's just kind of this back
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Speaker 1: and forth. It's part of the entertainment organism that is
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Speaker 1: pro sports. It happens in the NBA a lot. You
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Speaker 1: remember when Kyrie went through a phase like they hated
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Speaker 1: the fans. It's like, you guys, realize where this money
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Speaker 1: comes from, Like maybe not directly out of their pocket
9:35
Speaker 1: in your pocket, but kinda. It's like, I but listen,
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Speaker 1: they booed because it's personal, it's professional. They can't stand you.
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Speaker 1: It's just that simple. Those fans can't stand them. And
9:53
Speaker 1: if he was good, and if he was a star,
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Speaker 1: guess what they would right around it. They would. But
10:03
Speaker 1: not only you're not a starty. He's terrible. Like he's
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Speaker 1: a god awful player. I mean it's like, this isn't
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Speaker 1: a subjective opinion. He is objectively awful. The eye test, statistically,
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Speaker 1: like every angle of Deshaun right, advance analytics, basic analytics,
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Speaker 1: sitting on your couch, if you're just you know, selling insurance,
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Speaker 1: you just like football, You're like this sucks, and then
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Speaker 1: you factor in everything off the field, like the league
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Speaker 1: has been in him for eleven games, and I don't
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Speaker 1: blame He's like, pay them to go away. Why are
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Speaker 1: you guys fucking bringing that up because people think you're gross?
10:41
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's one thing, you know, Russell, there
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Speaker 1: there have been players that have been traded and it
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Speaker 1: doesn't work out. It's like, yeah, I think the guys
10:50
Speaker 1: a little cheesy or whatever. And that's a situation that
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Speaker 1: got weird fast. Him and Sean Payton didn't get along.
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Speaker 1: Like that's sports, that happens all the time. Personalities. Mesh
11:01
Speaker 1: don Nelson just recently died, like he butted heads with
11:04
Speaker 1: some players. You know when I was a kid, coaches
11:08
Speaker 1: and players, but it had constantly. I mean, it was
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Speaker 1: just like this coach hates a star player, this star
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Speaker 1: player hates his coach. It was a huge part of
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Speaker 1: the I mean, I don't know, just the ecosystem of sports.
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Speaker 1: Now it's a little more kumbaya because, let's face it,
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Speaker 1: these players make so much money, they have so much
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Speaker 1: juice that the coaches, I think, have to fake it
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Speaker 1: a little bit more. They definitely didn't back then. It's
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Speaker 1: just like, no one's faking this, can't play. No one
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Speaker 1: likes you booing you. It's like you booed me when
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Speaker 1: I tore my achilles. They weren't booing you because they
11:40
Speaker 1: were rooting for you to go get surgery. They weren't
11:43
Speaker 1: booing you because they were glad that you got injured.
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Speaker 1: They were booing you because they can't stand you. They
11:49
Speaker 1: don't want to watch you anymore, they don't want to
11:52
Speaker 1: be they're emotionally invested into this team, which clearly means
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Speaker 1: a lot to a lot of people, and they don't
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Speaker 1: want you associated with it. Here's the problem. Zach Johnson,
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Speaker 1: who I covered, follows Cleveland sports and on the Browns.
12:08
Speaker 1: I followed him on Twitter forever tweet us something out
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Speaker 1: and it caught my eye. He said, there's one little
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Speaker 1: problem because a lot of people are like, just cut baits.
12:16
Speaker 1: That's what I think. I believe you should just say
12:19
Speaker 1: fuck it, we are just gonna eat this and take
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Speaker 1: this on the chin and just get this toxicity, this
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Speaker 1: negativity out of the building and just let Shador, Dylan
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Speaker 1: Gabriel some of these young guys and just figure it
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Speaker 1: out on the move. That's I think the logical thought.
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Speaker 1: If we suck, we suck. At least we don't suck
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Speaker 1: with this guy, right, which I think is completely fair.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's what everyone that was booing, everyone
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Speaker 1: you know in Cleveland or in Ohio or nationally that
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Speaker 1: likes the Browns is thinking to themselves, can we just
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Speaker 1: get rid of this and just move forward? Totally agree.
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Speaker 1: The problem is is because the way these contracts work,
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Speaker 1: everyone cooks the books and they put all these void
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Speaker 1: years where they take a lot of the money and
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Speaker 1: they guaranteed them clearly a ton and they put it
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Speaker 1: in these fake years. Well, if they cut them today
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Speaker 1: or tomorrow or this week or next week, before week one,
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Speaker 1: they would eat his forty million dollars this season, which
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Speaker 1: they're on the books for, and then the void years
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Speaker 1: would accelerate into one year and in twenty twenty seven,
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Speaker 1: according to Zach who did some research and talked to
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Speaker 1: some CAP people, it'd be eighty six million dollars. Let
13:33
Speaker 1: me repeat that, eighty six million dollars of dead money.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know this is CAP this year, three
13:41
Speaker 1: hundred million close to it. It would be a large percentage.
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Speaker 1: Whatever that CAP in twenty twenty seven ends up being,
13:49
Speaker 1: wouldn't be fifty percent, but it wouldn't be ten percent.
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Speaker 1: It would be a historic number. To give you an example,
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Speaker 1: this year to a Tonguaailoa is the biggest number in
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Speaker 1: the history of the league at fifty five million dollars.
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Speaker 1: Before that, I think it was Russell Wilson at a
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Speaker 1: little over fifty Deshaun would dwarf that at eighty six
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Speaker 1: million dollars. So it's easy for me to say, cut bait,
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Speaker 1: get rid of the drama, get rid of the toxicity,
14:16
Speaker 1: and they're looking like, well, if we do that currently,
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Speaker 1: it is going to have ramifications, and it's like, well,
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Speaker 1: that's kind of on you. And listen, they're all the
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Speaker 1: blame for this. I'm not putting all the blame on
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Speaker 1: Stefanski and Andrew Berry for doing the Deshaun Watson deal
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Speaker 1: years ago. I'll give the majority of the blame there
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Speaker 1: to the owner. But this situation has jumped the shark
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Speaker 1: now and it's ugly, it's just and it's gross, and listen,
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Speaker 1: you know me, morally, I don't give a fuck, like
14:50
Speaker 1: I do business with a criminal. If the guy can play,
14:53
Speaker 1: so whatevery NFL team. They've proven that can you play,
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Speaker 1: can you make place, can you score touchdowns? Can you
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Speaker 1: defend the pass? Can you rush the pastor that's the
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Speaker 1: business I'm in. If I'm an NFL team, is he
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Speaker 1: And it's easy to find these guys on the internet, Like,
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Speaker 1: I don't want this guy in my team? Well you would.
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Speaker 1: If you can score ten touchdowns at running back, you
15:12
Speaker 1: would take them. If you can lock down wide receivers,
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Speaker 1: no one actually cares. It's it's been proven. But you
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Speaker 1: better be able to play. You better be able to
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Speaker 1: play because the moment you become the uh, the the
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Speaker 1: graph is like all negative, no positive. I don't care
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Speaker 1: what line of work you are in, does not matter.
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Speaker 1: It could be Tittley winks, it could be Deli sandwiches,
15:36
Speaker 1: it could be the NFL. Once that ratio becomes problem,
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Speaker 1: exponentially outweighs anything positive. Let's face it with John Watson,
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Speaker 1: there's nothing positive. There's it's one of the pipe chart
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Speaker 1: one negative. Like if you just look at like Chador's negative,
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Speaker 1: you'd be like, well, not a great athlete. So when
15:56
Speaker 1: the pocket breaks down, it's he's not gonna be able
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Speaker 1: to get away from any People can hold on the
16:01
Speaker 1: ball a little bit too. But again, the stor thing
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Speaker 1: all I'm saying is it's like tangible football stuff, which
16:06
Speaker 1: a lot of football players have question marks. Unless you're
16:09
Speaker 1: like Justin Jefferson or Miles Garrett or fucking panay Sewel,
16:15
Speaker 1: most guys have some question marks on a scouting report
16:19
Speaker 1: welcome to football in the pros. But a lot of
16:22
Speaker 1: guys are just no issue off the field. Yeah, just
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Speaker 1: good guy, easy going, works hard. They're early, stays late.
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Speaker 1: Even if the guy doesn't get there early. In state late,
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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, easy guy to get along. We like him.
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Speaker 1: Might not be the hardest worker in the world, but
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Speaker 1: good player does what he needs to do. Great teammate
16:41
Speaker 1: just fits right in. Like that's that's what most guys
16:44
Speaker 1: need to do in the NFL. Just like my number
16:47
Speaker 1: one advice actually to a lot of people would be like,
16:49
Speaker 1: find a way once you get hired out of college,
16:51
Speaker 1: find a way to just fit in and then figure
16:54
Speaker 1: it out from there. You don't want to, you know,
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Speaker 1: stand out anyway and with negative stuff, right, or just
17:05
Speaker 1: be someone that's like it's a little much, man, I'm
17:09
Speaker 1: just I hate it's a little much. It's like fucking
17:11
Speaker 1: calm down. And I just thought that it's just this story,
17:15
Speaker 1: just make it go away. But when you gotta pay
17:18
Speaker 1: them and you have this type financial ramifications that come
17:23
Speaker 1: along with it, it's you'd be naive to think it's
17:26
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17:28
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17:35
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Speaker 1: and figure it out, because I think at this point
17:42
Speaker 1: that's what I would do. That's one hundred percent what
17:45
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17:46
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19:26
Speaker 1: and he just got elevated off pup and he's practicing,
19:30
Speaker 1: and by all you would say, very very good chance
19:35
Speaker 1: he plays week one. I wouldn't guarantee it, what to
19:39
Speaker 1: see how the next week or two plays out. But
19:41
Speaker 1: if you would have told me when he tore his
19:44
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19:55
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19:58
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20:02
Speaker 1: don't know, man. But we saw with Daniel Jones too.
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Speaker 1: And this is where players back to Deshaun thing focus
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Speaker 1: comes along with getting ready for the game, because nothing
20:17
Speaker 1: and I mean nothing involved in football is really easy.
20:21
Speaker 1: Like studying film is not easy. Obviously, working out and
20:24
Speaker 1: lifting is not easy. Practicing is not easy. Everything beside
20:28
Speaker 1: the game, which aren't easy either but at least are fun,
20:31
Speaker 1: is just tedious, monotonous and difficult. And I would say
20:36
Speaker 1: rehabbing from these major injuries can really mentally test you.
20:42
Speaker 1: And we have seen guys not be able to get
20:44
Speaker 1: over the hump because you know what, they don't rehab
20:47
Speaker 1: hard enough, cause it can really mentally tax you. You have
20:50
Speaker 1: to be very disciplined, very driven, and you're seeing all
20:54
Speaker 1: these guys come back regardless when they were injured. I
20:57
Speaker 1: mean when Slater last year in Trey Camp blew out
21:01
Speaker 1: his entire knee, my first thought was that could derail
21:05
Speaker 1: his career. The offensive tackle from the Chargers just I
21:11
Speaker 1: remember watching the video at practice and then everything that
21:14
Speaker 1: came along with the patella. I'm like, this is a
21:16
Speaker 1: really really bad injury. So for him, just training camp
21:20
Speaker 1: came and he was ready to go. I know he's
21:22
Speaker 1: been kind of in and out of camp, but like him,
21:24
Speaker 1: just ready to go. Do you know the focus and
21:28
Speaker 1: like mindset you have to have to rehab from that,
21:30
Speaker 1: especially some of these bigger guys that the weight he
21:33
Speaker 1: has to carry around, limping around forever. George, who was
21:37
Speaker 1: just wired to like one hundred percent energy, never sit
21:41
Speaker 1: still and basically roll it all back and like you
21:44
Speaker 1: can't do any of that, it's all gonna be shit.
21:48
Speaker 1: That sucks, and I think the league is And this
21:51
Speaker 1: is the problem with the Deshaun Watson types, who are
21:53
Speaker 1: just nobody wants in the league. Like if you told me, well, one,
21:58
Speaker 1: if they cut him, I don't think he'll I think
22:01
Speaker 1: he would be out of the league. I don't think
22:03
Speaker 1: anyone's signing him. This is not like Russell Wilson, who's,
22:06
Speaker 1: you know, high character guy, right even when he couldn't play,
22:08
Speaker 1: People like, yeah, you know, he's a high character guy,
22:10
Speaker 1: been a good and Russell was a good player for
22:12
Speaker 1: way longer. You just can't be this toxic and this
22:16
Speaker 1: bat at football and anyone touch you. But the majority
22:20
Speaker 1: of guys aren't that aren't just this guy's a fucking loser.
22:24
Speaker 1: The majority of guys are like, really focused, hard working
22:27
Speaker 1: people that take advantage of this incredible opportunity that God
22:32
Speaker 1: has given him with these athletic attributes and size to
22:36
Speaker 1: be involved in this league which is paying historic amounts
22:39
Speaker 1: of money, and they take it very very seriously, and
22:42
Speaker 1: they treat it like we all treat, you know, like
22:46
Speaker 1: high level people treat their normal professions. Takes a lot
22:49
Speaker 1: of time, a lot of focus, a lot of energy,
22:51
Speaker 1: a lot of time doing stuff that isn't very fun.
22:54
Speaker 1: And the respect I have for all these guys. Daniel
22:57
Speaker 1: Jones once he broke his leg in towards Achilles, maybe again,
23:01
Speaker 1: I'm wired from growing up in like the nineties and
23:03
Speaker 1: two thousands, when a guy with Terry's achilles like career
23:05
Speaker 1: over or acl never the same. Now it's like torn
23:09
Speaker 1: achilles seeing six months. Even Aaron Rodgers a couple of
23:13
Speaker 1: years ago, we all thought he was batshit crazy. He
23:16
Speaker 1: was like drinking dolphin piss or whatever to strengthen the achilles. Yeah,
23:20
Speaker 1: it's just the modern medicine, the rehab, the whatever is
23:24
Speaker 1: involved is clearly extremely better. Right. And if you tell
23:29
Speaker 1: me you know they're doing extra stuff, I don't care.
23:32
Speaker 1: I would do League pays a premium, but you can't
23:36
Speaker 1: convince me they weren't doing that back then too. But regardless,
23:39
Speaker 1: Like it's just I think you get a lot of
23:41
Speaker 1: guys that know the opportunity to earn this type money
23:45
Speaker 1: is pretty special, and they take it very very seriously.
23:48
Speaker 1: A couple other topics. JJ McCarthy got banged up in
23:51
Speaker 1: that game. I was watching just walking around. You know,
23:54
Speaker 1: you boys do a little morning daddy day care over
23:56
Speaker 1: in North Scottsdale, and we're just walking around the house
24:00
Speaker 1: and I turn on an NFL network and I see
24:02
Speaker 1: David Carr, which is incredible. Slick back here. I mean,
24:04
Speaker 1: David Carr. That guy's hair is like, I can if
24:09
Speaker 1: I can make a comeback, if I ever go over
24:11
Speaker 1: to Turkey, I'll bring pictures of people like David Carr
24:14
Speaker 1: and be like, that's what I want. If you can't
24:17
Speaker 1: give me the ability to go like pat Riley nineteen
24:21
Speaker 1: eighty eight, slick that shit back and have it look wet,
24:24
Speaker 1: I don't want to come back. I'll stay bold. But
24:27
Speaker 1: I'm watching him in aust Weiler and the game starts
24:31
Speaker 1: and there's a lightning delay. I mean, it's one ten,
24:34
Speaker 1: one hundred and twelve where I'm at, and I'm seeing
24:36
Speaker 1: rain and lightning. I'm like, God, we might all be Americans,
24:40
Speaker 1: but we are living in completely different places. And so
24:43
Speaker 1: they just switched to the Vikings game, and which was
24:46
Speaker 1: fine with me. It was like, Okay, let's fucking watch
24:49
Speaker 1: something else and JJ McCarthy's in there. Just one pass
24:52
Speaker 1: nice woo, not next pass air mail, next pass kind
24:58
Speaker 1: of tough completion, next as airmail. Like God, this guy's
25:02
Speaker 1: just not good enough. He's just he's just not accurate.
25:05
Speaker 1: No touch. And then I mentioned this to Cowrad too,
25:08
Speaker 1: Like when they came back to Shador once the lightning
25:10
Speaker 1: delay ended, I've been watching him. Then he watched the
25:12
Speaker 1: door as way more touch. JJ has a stronger arm,
25:16
Speaker 1: and then he misses the ball in the end zone.
25:17
Speaker 1: It's like I've been out. But like, what are we
25:19
Speaker 1: even talking about here? Who's arguing? Like what's the argument?
25:23
Speaker 1: At this point? He's not even the backup quarterback. He
25:27
Speaker 1: will not be the backup quarterback for Minnesota. But like,
25:31
Speaker 1: you can't be bad like Deshaun. You can't be bad
25:34
Speaker 1: and a questionable character, guy not gonna work out of
25:37
Speaker 1: the league. You can't be not good like JJ McCarthy
25:41
Speaker 1: and always injured Kevin. Kevin O'Connell's in African got banged up.
25:45
Speaker 1: I wanted to play him more, but he was banged up.
25:46
Speaker 1: Shouldn't be anything serious, But it's like this guy's always
25:49
Speaker 1: banged up. I mean, I just this is nothing personal.
25:54
Speaker 1: I know some people I get some dms like middle good.
25:56
Speaker 1: You hate this guy. I don't hate anyone. You just
25:59
Speaker 1: fucking talk about Sit there, watch the guy play. It's like, yeah,
26:02
Speaker 1: this guy's pretty good. You just watched some of these
26:04
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks. I got kind of interesting. Listen. I was
26:07
Speaker 1: the guy blowing Drew Aller and he did have like
26:10
Speaker 1: one of the great passes in the history of preseason
26:13
Speaker 1: the other day. But I also watched some other passes like, eugh,
26:15
Speaker 1: that's pretty ugly. But again, no one's holding Drew Aller
26:19
Speaker 1: to do a high standard because he's like third round pick.
26:22
Speaker 1: Most people thought he sucked. Yeah, JJ McCarthy like is
26:25
Speaker 1: equally as bad. He's just not very good at quarterback
26:29
Speaker 1: preseason blowouts. If you just look at the scores yesterday,
26:34
Speaker 1: there was a lot of like thirty fours to sevens.
26:37
Speaker 1: There was a lot of like forties to tens. It
26:40
Speaker 1: was really bad. And one reason why is and more
26:45
Speaker 1: and more games over the course of the weekend, the
26:47
Speaker 1: starters played like the one series, which I kind of understand, right,
26:53
Speaker 1: you want to get them. I think the thought process,
26:55
Speaker 1: well I know the thought process behind that is they
26:57
Speaker 1: get to lead up to a game on like if
27:00
Speaker 1: you play on Saturday, you just treat it like a Sunday,
27:04
Speaker 1: so like Thursday and Friday or your Friday and Saturday.
27:08
Speaker 1: So you kind of get your last practice in with
27:10
Speaker 1: some game plan plays, and ideally you have like a
27:13
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen play drive, so you probably script it
27:15
Speaker 1: out a little bit. Then Sunday is your classic more
27:17
Speaker 1: Metal rep day. You stay in the hotel, your pregame meal,
27:21
Speaker 1: you kind of just feel what it's like to play
27:22
Speaker 1: a game, which I understand. I give the coaches a
27:25
Speaker 1: lot of credit. Like if I threw Baker Mayfield or
27:28
Speaker 1: Perdy or Herbert or whoever. I mean, O Jordan Love
27:30
Speaker 1: and he's played a series, I'd like one more. Especially
27:34
Speaker 1: if if it's like sixth plays, so we got one
27:38
Speaker 1: first down, we gain like twenty two yards. It's like,
27:41
Speaker 1: I I want a little more, but I get they're
27:44
Speaker 1: pretty good at sticking to it. But the reason these
27:46
Speaker 1: preseason blowouts happen is once you're down some of these teams, right,
27:54
Speaker 1: especially if you've done the joint practice, a lot of guys'
27:59
Speaker 1: legs are just shit. Some of these guys on these
28:01
Speaker 1: backups on these seams are just not used to the
28:03
Speaker 1: wear and tear, and they just got nothing, you know,
28:06
Speaker 1: So once a team gets a little momentum, especially some
28:09
Speaker 1: of these blowouts are usually because of turnovers, like a
28:12
Speaker 1: fumbled kickoff. All of a sudden, you get the ball
28:14
Speaker 1: at the twenty you're already up fourteen to three. In
28:17
Speaker 1: the boom is twenty one to three, and then the
28:18
Speaker 1: kind of snowballs. But a lot of guys throughout the
28:22
Speaker 1: league are just exhausted at this point right relative to
28:26
Speaker 1: I mean, it used to be way worse when they
28:28
Speaker 1: were doing double days, but just in the sense of
28:31
Speaker 1: you've been practicing every day, your legs are shot, you've
28:34
Speaker 1: been doing these joint practices, you get a ton of
28:36
Speaker 1: reps in practice that I just think that now this week,
28:42
Speaker 1: you know, I think every game's on Thursday, pretty sure.
28:45
Speaker 1: My guess is a lot of teams do not play anybody.
28:49
Speaker 1: It's just not worth the risk, and then they kind
28:53
Speaker 1: of pull off the reins. Here are all the games
28:56
Speaker 1: on Thursday. No, we're a pretty normal week. I guess
28:59
Speaker 1: Thursday for our day, Saturday, A lot of games on Friday.
29:04
Speaker 1: I mean we got games Friday this week, like three
29:07
Speaker 1: o'clock Pacific Standard time, a couple of games Saturday. I
29:13
Speaker 1: don't complain about like Saturday, nothing really on ten am,
29:16
Speaker 1: there's a football game, even if it sucks better. Nothing
29:20
Speaker 1: as someone that talks a lot of crap about preseason?
29:23
Speaker 1: What game was I watching? Who are the who were?
29:26
Speaker 1: What team does Sam Ellinger play for? I don't even know.
29:30
Speaker 1: It's all kind of running together, is what happens. We
29:32
Speaker 1: have a baby, you don't sleep that much. But I
29:34
Speaker 1: was like, Maria's like, can we chang the channel? I'm like, oh,
29:37
Speaker 1: this guy used to play at Texas and then he
29:39
Speaker 1: got drafted the Colts. It's like it's like mid fourth quarter.
29:42
Speaker 1: I'm like, why am I watching this? Uh? Michael Pennix cleared,
29:48
Speaker 1: so I guess my guess is he'll be the starting
29:50
Speaker 1: quarterback Week one. I think the Falcons are gonna be terrible.
29:53
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be an ugly year for Stefanski
29:58
Speaker 1: and uh on. Just way more somber note. The the
30:04
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver story that is this child drowned in his
30:08
Speaker 1: backyard is one of those stories that just makes you
30:13
Speaker 1: you know, whether you have a child or not. I mean,
30:15
Speaker 1: if you're a human being, you feel six to your stomach,
30:18
Speaker 1: your heart drops, you just you feel you read the
30:23
Speaker 1: headline and you almost have to shake yourself out, and
30:26
Speaker 1: then read it again. You're like, this can't be real
30:29
Speaker 1: and it's just one of those things that and I
30:31
Speaker 1: saw Josh Allen talking about it and the head coach like,
30:34
Speaker 1: what do you what do you even say to someone else?
30:37
Speaker 1: What can you possibly do besides just kind of trying
30:41
Speaker 1: to be there? But you read these headlines and I know,
30:45
Speaker 1: you know my wife, my mother in law, uh was
30:49
Speaker 1: like wanted us to build a pool, build a pool
30:52
Speaker 1: fence before. And I'm not saying he didn't have a
30:54
Speaker 1: pool fence. I like, I don't know, but like I know,
30:57
Speaker 1: Maria in real estate forever around here. Obviously we got
31:00
Speaker 1: so many pools in Arizona, no matter Texas the same way.
31:03
Speaker 1: I mean, it happens a lot in Arizona. I mean
31:07
Speaker 1: there was a pretty there was some influencer girl who
31:09
Speaker 1: had a two year old die in a pool. I
31:14
Speaker 1: just I can't even your heart just breaks for the guy.
31:20
Speaker 1: It's just you wouldn't wish that upon your worst enemy.
31:24
Speaker 1: I can't even I can't even imagine, I really can't.
31:28
Speaker 1: It's just it's sickening, and I mean, we gotta we've
31:32
Speaker 1: gotta get a pool fence here sooner or later, luckily,
31:35
Speaker 1: I mean as I mean, he can't even crawl yet,
31:37
Speaker 1: but our back door to get there is pretty heavy.
31:42
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be something like un till he's way bigger
31:44
Speaker 1: than he could even open. But it's one of those things.
31:46
Speaker 1: What if it's open, he's crawling around. You gotta be very,
31:50
Speaker 1: very careful with these things, because that's unimaginable, unimaginable tragedy.
31:58
Speaker 1: It's as bad as it gets. I personally believe it
32:01
Speaker 1: just doesn't get much worse. And this is the type
32:05
Speaker 1: stuff that you know, you're just happy you have teammates
32:10
Speaker 1: and people in your life because we all grieved different.
32:13
Speaker 1: I don't even know sucks. I think I saw that
32:19
Speaker 1: it was crazy. Josh Allen or someone said it was
32:21
Speaker 1: nuts that they couldn't even believe that he showed up
32:23
Speaker 1: a training camp, because it's hard to even put yourself
32:26
Speaker 1: in his shoes, Like what do you even how do
32:29
Speaker 1: you even go on? I mean, these these child tragedies
32:33
Speaker 1: are there's nothing worse. A couple other things before we
32:50
Speaker 1: get out of here. I finally pulled the trigger. I
32:53
Speaker 1: picked up my Tesla yesterday and actually right, and part
32:57
Speaker 1: of it was giving back my my twenty eleven Tahoe,
33:02
Speaker 1: which twenty eleven. The difference in technology, there's no difference
33:07
Speaker 1: in twenty eleven technology in two thousand and one technology.
33:10
Speaker 1: I remember my mom and dad long time ago, had
33:16
Speaker 1: had an expedition, and I think it was two thousand
33:19
Speaker 1: or two thousand and one, and if I vividly remember,
33:22
Speaker 1: the technology was pretty similar to ten years later. I
33:27
Speaker 1: think the only difference it had like a six dix
33:29
Speaker 1: disc CD player. Some of you guys listed CD PLA.
33:33
Speaker 1: What are CDs? They used to be these things where
33:35
Speaker 1: music was played and you put it in the car.
33:38
Speaker 1: That was actually a new thing after they had tape
33:40
Speaker 1: cassettes forever. But the technology was is stross. Well, as
33:44
Speaker 1: I'm cleaning out the car, you know, there's just some
33:46
Speaker 1: random shit in there, not not really much. I found
33:48
Speaker 1: a golf ball under the seat, and a couple of
33:50
Speaker 1: towels and just random crap. I shut the Uh maybe
33:55
Speaker 1: I slammed the window of the trunk because I had
33:58
Speaker 1: opened the window, not the entire trunk to reach in
34:01
Speaker 1: there and grab something, and all of a sudden, I
34:03
Speaker 1: heard this boom and I look, I'm like, what just happened?
34:07
Speaker 1: And then I looked the back like the uh passenger,
34:10
Speaker 1: not the passenger, but the second rows window had just broke,
34:16
Speaker 1: not shattered, but like had just slammed down. And so
34:20
Speaker 1: I'm like, what just happened? So I turned on the car.
34:22
Speaker 1: I tried to roll it up, you know, press the
34:23
Speaker 1: button to roll it up. Well, it had clearly come
34:26
Speaker 1: off the track or whatever, and so I had to
34:29
Speaker 1: take the car and the window didn't work. It was
34:31
Speaker 1: just down one. It was one hundred and twelve degrees. Yesterday,
34:34
Speaker 1: I picked up a car at four thirty. And you know,
34:36
Speaker 1: I don't care how good the AC is, and the
34:38
Speaker 1: AC in the twenty eleventh time it was pretty elite.
34:40
Speaker 1: I mean that shit was cold free on, just pumped,
34:44
Speaker 1: but you had the back window open. I was like,
34:46
Speaker 1: they didn't even care. It's like, yeah, they're doing so
34:49
Speaker 1: much business and it probably takes them because one hundred
34:51
Speaker 1: dollars to fix. But I do believe picking this thing
34:55
Speaker 1: up and driving it home. I typed in my address
35:00
Speaker 1: and it drove me home. I say this with all sincerity,
35:06
Speaker 1: having this car drive home without me doing anything but
35:12
Speaker 1: sitting there is the most remarkable thing I've ever experienced
35:16
Speaker 1: in a car. It is I know some of you
35:18
Speaker 1: guys have driven Weimo, and obviously some of you have
35:20
Speaker 1: been in these tesla's with this self driving. I never have.
35:24
Speaker 1: I've never been in a Weimo. Something about the way
35:26
Speaker 1: the Weimo's look, I don't know. I just I haven't
35:29
Speaker 1: been in that many situations where I guess I would
35:32
Speaker 1: need one. I guess my natural inclinations an Uber stockholder,
35:37
Speaker 1: I just go to Uber. But again, judge the look
35:41
Speaker 1: of the thing on the top, but I respect the technology.
35:45
Speaker 1: I can't even describe being in there, being like this
35:48
Speaker 1: is insane. It just drove me. It was passing lanes,
35:53
Speaker 1: it checks off the freeway, turns the car. I started thinking,
35:59
Speaker 1: like my dad, what would he even thought. I remember
36:05
Speaker 1: watching movies thinking like, Oh, this is really gonna come,
36:07
Speaker 1: This is really gonna happen. Kind of feels this self
36:10
Speaker 1: driving ability with no one in control but the computer
36:15
Speaker 1: and the satellites or whatever the hell's going on. I
36:17
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. I just know it was.
36:20
Speaker 1: It couldn't have been any smoother, and I just thought
36:22
Speaker 1: like I've done. I've grown up in a world where
36:26
Speaker 1: born into a world internet didn't exist, lived through a
36:29
Speaker 1: world where we started the Internet, and it has become
36:32
Speaker 1: what it's become. I've been lucky enough to kind of
36:34
Speaker 1: see different times of a world that now feels like
36:39
Speaker 1: one hundred years ago, the nineties right, just in terms
36:42
Speaker 1: of the way we lived and then how fast everything
36:45
Speaker 1: goes now. I truly, I don't know. I've never experienced
36:48
Speaker 1: anything quite like that. Maybe for some of you that
36:51
Speaker 1: have been doing it for a while, you're like John,
36:53
Speaker 1: that's what it is. It is a especially given like
36:58
Speaker 1: the car that I was driving. The technology in that
37:02
Speaker 1: car would be the difference of like a wagon versus
37:09
Speaker 1: like a wagon one of those that were pulled by
37:11
Speaker 1: horses that they took across the country on the Oregon Trail,
37:16
Speaker 1: compared to like a Ford f one fifty. That's the
37:19
Speaker 1: gap between getting in this Tesla to what I was driving.
37:24
Speaker 1: It is eye opening. I mean, it's crazy. I don't
37:27
Speaker 1: know how I did it. I mean, I've been living
37:30
Speaker 1: in like prehistoric times driving this car. Now. My wife,
37:34
Speaker 1: she said multiple cars as I met her. Her cars
37:37
Speaker 1: have been newer. Obviously, I've been accustomed to technology and
37:41
Speaker 1: what's involved. But like I didn't have the ability to
37:44
Speaker 1: connect my phone to the car, let alone press a
37:48
Speaker 1: button and have it drive me home. It was I'm
37:53
Speaker 1: just floored. Seriously. I stood there or sat there just
38:00
Speaker 1: in disbelief, Like this is the most I think powerful
38:07
Speaker 1: technology just from zero to sixty, right, I Like I've
38:12
Speaker 1: lived the phones, I've lived the computer. It's it's been
38:15
Speaker 1: a gradual process, like the iPad or whatever. Right, the
38:19
Speaker 1: different video games when I was a kid where they're
38:21
Speaker 1: at now. You kind of see a slow burn when
38:24
Speaker 1: you're just used to something and then you just get
38:27
Speaker 1: into this. It'd be like the gap between what I
38:34
Speaker 1: was used to sitting in and when I went to
38:36
Speaker 1: sit in was an experience. I'll never forget that first time.
38:41
Speaker 1: That drive home is experience I will never forget. Yeah.
38:46
Speaker 1: Other than that, nothing really else I did. I've had
38:52
Speaker 1: some time to kill the last couple of days during
38:54
Speaker 1: some naps and just I watched season three of Tires
38:59
Speaker 1: the Shane gillishaw Well. I watched the first couple of seasons.
39:02
Speaker 1: I kind of skipped around. It wasn't really it wasn't
39:04
Speaker 1: doing it for me. That's how I would say I
39:06
Speaker 1: kind of appreciate what they were going for, just it
39:09
Speaker 1: wasn't really working this season. I'm like, three and a
39:12
Speaker 1: half episodes in is some of the funniest television I've
39:15
Speaker 1: seen in a decade. It is. It reminds me of
39:19
Speaker 1: a time pre Internet when comedies didn't give a fuck
39:23
Speaker 1: about anything. They didn't care about offending anybody, They didn't
39:26
Speaker 1: care about what the reaction. They just tried to be
39:29
Speaker 1: as funny based on their comedic authenticity. And you know,
39:35
Speaker 1: Shane Gillis is clearly the most famous guy in the show,
39:38
Speaker 1: and he's the he's like the I would say, the
39:42
Speaker 1: guy that has driven the eyeballs and just the notoriety.
39:48
Speaker 1: But the other two characters. His cousin plays Will. It's
39:52
Speaker 1: his tire shop. For those that haven't seen it, you
39:54
Speaker 1: could just skip the season three. You could just skip
39:57
Speaker 1: the season three. And his cousin, Will, who is a
40:01
Speaker 1: prominent role on the show, is as funny of a
40:06
Speaker 1: character I would say as there has been a TV
40:09
Speaker 1: in a long time. And the fat guy with the mullet,
40:12
Speaker 1: I forget his name, his stuff so far this season,
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Speaker 1: I mean there's a scene with him in a sex Addict,
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Speaker 1: like sex Addict Anonymous class. It's as good of a
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Speaker 1: scene as I've ever I mean, I'm like peeing my
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Speaker 1: pants laughing when Jack's like napping on me at like
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Speaker 1: ten am. It was. It is fantastic. It is. I
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Speaker 1: haven't seen much good TV lately. That TV if you
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Speaker 1: just want some raw laughs and you like just don't
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Speaker 1: give a shit humor, like it feels like the nineties.
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Speaker 1: It really does. From just something like that. Stuff doesn't
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Speaker 1: really get made anymore because everyone's like, Wow, this guy's
40:50
Speaker 1: gonna say this, and this one's gonna be defended, and
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Speaker 1: variety is gonna write this, and it's like who cares.
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Speaker 1: Just just make good stuff. People will like it and
40:57
Speaker 1: none of that stuff matters. It's like that a sean
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Speaker 1: thing play good football and none of it would have mattered.
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Speaker 1: As crazy as that is, I mean, it's true, like
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Speaker 1: if you just do good stuff, it'll work. And however
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Speaker 1: they figured it out, like Tire season three is. It's
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Speaker 1: as funny of a television show as I don't want
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Speaker 1: to say I've ever seen. There's obviously been some funny
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Speaker 1: television shows, but it is. It's as good as anything
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Speaker 1: you'll see on any of these streaming services that have
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Speaker 1: been made in the last I don't know, five ten years.
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Speaker 1: That's for damn sure. The volume