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Cyclone talk with Bill Seals, Masters recap with Matt Rudy & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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I just passed 1:00. Miller and Condon, our number 2
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for us. We'll take you until, oh, just
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before 2:00. Trench plays of the day still to
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come. Bottom of the hour, Mad Rudy,
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longtime golf writer, Golf Digest.
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Most notably, he will join us to recap golf's first major and
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take a quick peek ahead to the PGA.
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Coming up here in about though just a little bit over a month,
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but lots of Iowa State news to get to Bill Seals.
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Listen to Jimmy Rodgers speak earlier this morning or into the
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afternoon and he joins us the latest on that Bill Trenton,
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Ken, thanks for coming on. Lots of things to get to with
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you. I guess we got to start with the
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ALS news. First of all, that the Toledo
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transfer, Braden Oz, who was by the sounds of things going to
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play a prominent role in that secondary for Iowa State, will
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not be this year as he's torn his ACL.
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Just a routine practice play apparently, and he's going to
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miss the year. That's not good news to start a
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Monday for Cyclone fans, Bill. No, it's not.
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And especially what you know what, it seems like the football
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program's gone through the last few years with injuries.
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And I I definitely agree. All's would have been one of
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those, one of those starters. I think he was probably one of
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the top, at least on the defensive side of the ball, one
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of the top additions in the portal that they even made.
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And then to lose him in in kind of just a freak type of way in
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the spring is. Yeah.
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I mean, it's it's Sun timely in Iowa State.
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You know, I think the the cover back there, I mean it's not bear
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by any means. They addressed it in the portal.
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They had a few guys coming back. But you know, I think it's going
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to be probably some young guys maybe that came with them from
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Washington State and and you know, it gets to be young back
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there all of a sudden with alls out of the mix.
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He did mention a couple of veterans that came in out of the
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portal. Micah Harper, who comes in from
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BYU, red shirt senior and also a guy that obviously he knows well
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with Deron Goodman. Both of those guys are those two
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guys that and it feels like everything's in pencil with this
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roster right now. Would you pencil though 2 red
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shirt seniors guys that you'd anticipate would be starters at
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this point? Well, I mean he handed at those
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guys. You know, Brody Miller was
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another one that he had talked about the Demarius Russell.
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So the two you you mentioned Trent and then those two are,
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are pretty much the top four of the guys at least new to the
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Iowa State program. He did throw in Drew Surges's
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name, though. And, and we all know about what
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you know, he has been able to do from walk on the scholarship
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player and a guy that the the new staff wanted to keep in the
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fold and not someone that they set out to replace.
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So I think between those five, I think they've got some good
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candidates and they've got, well, what about the last well
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half of spring football to to kind of start sorting that thing
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out. Speaking of sorting it out, it's
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kind of so difficult to sort this roster.
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We still know who these guys are, right?
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We just don't, we never seen them for the most part.
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What what stuck with me, it sounds to me like we may have
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and I want to get your take. Did you hear it the same way?
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A legitimate quarterback battle once we get into August?
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Well, and, and yeah, I mean it, it, it was, I mean, we expected
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to hear Rainer's name and when that question came up, but the
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fact that Moberly was omitted and they they mentioned Flores
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when I when we had open practice access last week, it it appeared
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to me that that it was kind of that it was Rainer and Moberly
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atop the depth chart, just kind of how they were going through
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some of the individual drills. But sounds like Flores is a is a
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guy that's come on here in the the last week or two.
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And I mean, I think he you know, he's a guy like we mentioned,
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like we talked about last week, Taj Manning on that different
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subject, basketball. But I mean, Zayn Flores that
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that program last season about toxic as they come.
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So you did just the way that thing spiraled.
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So I mean, yeah, his numbers were not good.
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But this is also a guy that's faced Big 12 defenses for, you
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know, the better part of a full season.
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Granted, it wasn't the right situation.
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Kind of like what it is with man in the on the basketball side of
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things. But and as a freshman, yeah,
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yeah. And as a freshman, a guy that,
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you know, he had an injury red shirt, he took a a traditional
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red shirt. So for a guy who's a red shirt
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sophomore, and I think this is his fourth year in college, so.
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So got the experience factor too.
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Yeah. He had redshirted as a freshman
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and then took a medical as well before starting most of last
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season. So he's not your not your
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typical red shirt sophomore. One of the things that caught my
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eye from the the press conference earlier today is
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Coach Rogers talked about the previous staff and talked about
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the fundamentals of the team and you can tell they were coached
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very well on that. I don't know.
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It just struck me. We don't hear that very often.
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It's very rare that you hear somebody and certainly in this
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kind of circumstance with the coaching staff leaving, it's not
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an heir apparent or something like that where they mentioned
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the old staff. Did that strike you as
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surprising at all? Give us a little take away from
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that. Not really.
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I think that every time that we've had Rogers since the
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initial press conference, it's it's mostly been very positive.
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It has been all positive about the old staff and and the guys
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that they were able to bring back how well coached they are
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and and how adaptable these guys have been.
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You know, it's a it's a brand new, more so brand new defense.
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I think there are some similarities offensively, but
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this is, I mean, it's brand new, everything on the defensive side
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of the ball. And they have praised that he
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did again today, that the guy is on that side of the ball and
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their ability to to make a total change in the middle of their
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college careers instead of looking elsewhere.
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So yeah, I mean it. It didn't surprise me.
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Well, and didn't, didn't Rogers at one point, I don't know,
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month at some point over the winter mention the fact that he
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was grateful to format Camel? Apparently they must have spent
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some, you know, some FaceTime, some Zoom time, or some, some
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phone time going over the roster.
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I, I think that Rogers actually went out of his way to, I guess
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publicly thank Matt Campbell for the, for the Intel that he left
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with the guys that stayed behind.
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Didn't that happen? Yeah, I think so.
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I think it, I think it did. And and they've been very
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cordial and you know, they, these guys that they, they never
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really have coached in the same place together.
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But there are members of Jimmy's staff who also know Matt very
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well and, and the coaches under Matt while they they were in
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Ames. And, and then you look at the
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past prospect camps, you know, Jimmy Rogers mentions a lot
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about being in AIMS over the summer for those prospect camps.
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And that was while Matt was the head coach and Jimmy was around
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the program a lot the last several years when he was at
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South Dakota State. So I think those two, Matt, Matt
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and Jimmy are, are very cordial. Man, what's the plan?
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That's TJ Otzelberger every year in the portal, but I don't know
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if it ever comes together this quickly. 5 for five as they have
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solidified the roster. It is April 13th and other
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programs are looking around saying what is TJ Otzelberger
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doing? You bet in this recruiting game
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a long time, Bill. You remember anything quite like
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this. I don't remember anything quite
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like this, Trent, as far as basketball goes.
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Then again, you know how my January looked from the football
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transfer portal thing, I had never seen that before either.
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So a bunch of news, poorest this year as far as that goes.
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But yeah, I mean, this was a staff that, you know, TJ was
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even a couple guys down from assistants that went on to be
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head coaches. I think he leaned a lot on on
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Nate Schmidt, Eric Crawford, the other guys on his staff, Micah
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Byers to an extent. And then they they set out with
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a plan. I, I think, you know, one of the
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good things about the way the portal shaked out this year was
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that starting the midnight after the championship game is you had
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that steady flow of announcements by players the
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last three or four weeks leading up to that, that they're
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entering the portal. So when everything officially
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opened on Wednesday, this was a coaching staff with the plan.
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You know, granted, it's still not at full strength as far as
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the, the full allotment of full time assistant coaches, but they
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hit the trail with a plan. They identified the guys that
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they wanted and and they did. And you know, we've seen, I
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mean, even what the work, the work TJ's done in the high
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school recruiting game over the years, if he can get those guys
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on campus, it's a it's a pretty good hit rate on who Iowa State
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has made a priority. We we saw Montsilovich's
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announcement, we saw TJ's statement.
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So supporting Mylan's decision to go to the NBA and and to
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thank him and Sedley etcetera. Would you say is the door
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completely closed on Montsilovich coming back?
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I mean the rosters only got so many spots and and the NIL go so
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far. Has the door totally closed on
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Monchilovich? I think it pretty much has, but
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I, I don't know, in this line of work, you never see never
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anymore. And I think you, you also look
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at the fact that, you know, I, I math might not be my specialty
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or whatever, But when I'm adding up the numbers of Iowa State's
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web share, when you got Jefferson Lipsy and Mount
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Chilovich coming off the books and you've got mostly a pretty
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young group of guys coming back that I would assume they weren't
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paying them a whole lot of money.
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You know, those guys are going to get raises.
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Killian's going to get a raise. Jamario, I'm sure you can.
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And all those those four guys played it.
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The four guys in the rotation are going to get raises.
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You've got the freshman coming in.
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I don't know that they're going to demand a premium as far as
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Rev share goes. And then you've got the five
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transfers. I mean, these weren't guys that
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were coming from necessarily like, you know, the blue bloods
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that an average double digits might, you know, would command 4
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or $5 billion a year. These guys are not that I think
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they're they're solid as a group, But you know, when you
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add things up, I still think Iowa State's probably got a
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little bit of money to spend in the in the Rev share game.
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And I think that that TJ is, I think reportedly going to get a
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little bit more money this year with that total pot increasing a
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little bit what it was a year ago.
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So I think he's still got some room to go out and get somebody
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and and who knows if Milan, if that thing happens where the the
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reviews are not good, he's not like in the way it's trending.
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You never say never. Who Who knows, Maybe he does end
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up back at Iowa State. Very interesting and and how
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that plays out because they're at 15, which is the roster Maxes
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that has changed and evolved throughout the years.
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Want to get your perspective on a couple of these?
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I've got them. I've actually got them at 14 is.
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It. 14 Trent, Maybe I'm adding wrong, but I'm I'm not looking
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at my computer right now. I'm driving, but I think they're
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I think they're at 14 right now. We still don't know.
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We haven't got anything from Xavion Mitchell.
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I think it's a positive. You know, he didn't play a whole
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lot. You know, maybe he wants to
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stick around and develop his game.
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He broke Tyrese Halliburton's scoring record and at his high
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school. So I mean, he's got a lot of
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potential. So I still think, you know, we
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wait for that. That could drop him down to 13.
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But either way, they've got the flexibility to add one more guy,
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and I bet you they've got a little bit of money leftover in
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the budget to do it too. Jaquan Johnson, Ken and I
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mentioned him back during the season.
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We saw him play. I think we thought it was
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against you and I, but I think it was 5 foot 11, tough guard.
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He is a top 100 player in the transfer portal rankings from on
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three and Rivals. Tell us a little bit about his
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fit and him playing maybe in the back court together, obviously
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with the guys that they have returning.
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Johnson's fit with the Cyclone team.
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Yeah, I think he's an excellent addition.
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You look at you look at the scouting reports out there of
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him so far, I think the only negative I really read from
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every one of them is that he's short.
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He's 510. I think that's the only knock on
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the guy. I mean, he was an incredible
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player for for Bradley at the Missouri Valley Conference
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level. What he was I think the
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defensive player of the year in the in the conference, well in
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the double digits and scoring. I think he's a good shooter.
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He can he can get the ball, get the ball to the rack and and
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distribute the ball. And I think he's the perfect
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addition to go with a, with a Torre and with a Bateman.
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I'm not sure that he comes in and and probably starts right
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away, but I think he's certainly one of those guys like, you
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know, maybe like a Bateman was this year where he's that second
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guy off the bench coming in that first rotation.
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And, you know, assuming Tori and Bateman stepped into starting
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roles, well, I think Johnson's probably that first guard off
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the bench for sure. Women's the women's game we know
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the apparently Audie crooks was on a plane headed to New York.
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Not sure what she's going on but could be.
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Must be more than vacation this time of year would kind of be a
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bit of. A guess not.
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That's the time she's chosen to do that.
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But what are you hearing pursuant to Audie Crooks?
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We we know that Jaden Williams is at LSU believe is where she's
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decided to play next year. What about Audie Crooks?
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What are you hearing her? I guess her and Addie Brown
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Bill. Yeah, I think that they're going
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to end up at at probably the FCC or the Big 10 level.
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You know, there were a lot of reports out there on on Audie
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where she was going to end up. I think Notre Dame was one of
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them early. I I've seen since then the the,
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the Notre Dame guys on on three saying that that's not going to
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happen. So I think you look back
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Maryland, probably one of those, although you wonder how Maryland
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plays, if that's necessarily a fit, but maybe drawing the
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connection there with with Brenda Freeze being an Iowa
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native. Also Speaking of Iowa native,
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head coaches were on check down at that OUI think that was one
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of the original schools as well mentioned.
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So and then then Addie Brown. There's also been some reports
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up from Talia Goodman from on three on her.
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She I think as many like 3 schools right now and again at
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that SEC Big 10 level with her. On the women's side, they do
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have a commitment. They got Maya Babbitt out of the
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portal from the Mack Kent State Guard average over 16 a game.
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More names popping at this point.
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Still kind of a holding pattern. What else could you tell us of
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bringing players into Iowa State?
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Well, yeah, I mean, it's still kind of been a holding pattern
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there in addition to what what they'll add beyond Maya Babbitt.
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I think she's a, she's a nice addition though, just for this,
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this season and, and you know, a lot of old timers around the
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around the scene in Iowa high school sports.
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Both her parents were prep players of the state of Iowa.
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They both went on to play basketball at Dana College
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actually in Blair, NE. So she's very familiar with the
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area. I think she was a nice start for
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them. But again, I, I think it's, it's
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a, it's a unique situation because, you know, Finley's got
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one year left on his deal. I, I'm not sure there's been any
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indications on if he's going to get extended beyond that.
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So, you know, it is what it is. I think that they get Babbitt
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who's very familiar with the state of Midwest kid, get her on
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board. But you know, beyond that, the
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kids who are going to come in and be seniors, that's going to
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be an interesting process or a sales bench right there.
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If you're recruiting freshmen, soft freshmen, sophomores, and
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you know what they could expect beyond next season.
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So I think it's still kind of a little bit of give and take
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there. But they'll, they'll, they'll
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have a team next year and, and we'll see see how things shake
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out. We we know they're going to feel
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the team indeed. Hey, are are the men going on a
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foreign trip this year or are they?
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Do we still do that? I think we do.
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And if. You think so?
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That's a good that's a good question, Kenny.
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I I thought that that was like every.
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Four years. Three years like.
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Every four years, three years or four years and it it's probably
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is going on three or four years, but there's not been anything
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released on that. I don't I don't even really
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recall any chatter about it at all.
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Just kind of informally, they will be going back out to that
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players era festival that that that has been expanded or Big 12
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teams out there in that with the tie end of the conference.
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They did was that I believe it was New HAMP was a New Hampshire
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they announced would be playing at Hilton this year too.
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That was something new schedule wise.
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It was released over the last week.
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So the things are starting to come together a little bit and
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it'll be it's a it's an interesting process for Micah
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Byers. I mean last year Iowa State
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really went out and and bulked that thing up.
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So they obviously they've got Purdue coming to Ames, but this
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is a team team that's kind of in transition right now.
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And I'm not sure how much more aggressive they get really with
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bringing in like any more blue bloods beyond kind of what we
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know right now. They are going to open the
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season in Sioux Falls again. So there's that one.
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There's Purdue. So but I and with the Vegas
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thing, I'm not sure how aggressive they get beyond that,
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just kind of given that the roster that they've got coming
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back and just kind of, you know, new guys, a lot of new guys kind
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of feeling. Yeah, without a doubt, No, no
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doubt. Obviously side Hawks are going
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to take place and that you, you know damn well the players are,
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is going to field a quality, quality tournament with the
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teams that go there. Bill Seals, you're busy, guys.
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cyclonereport.com, Bill, what have you got as far as media
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availabilities this week when it comes to football?
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Was this it? Well, we'll be back up there
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again on Wednesday for some more position coach once we haven't
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had, you know, the full allotment of of guys there yet.
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So yeah, we'll be back up there for two coaches come Wednesday.
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I'm pulling that e-mail right up right now with John Johnson,
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running backs coach and Mike Banks, the cornerbacks coach.
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So we'll, we'll cover those two positions for the subscribers
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Cyclone report, you know, all the the highlights from those
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press conferences Wednesday and we'll get some players along
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with that as well. Good stuff and Trent's off on
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Thursday, so I'm guessing I'll be in your texts at some point
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regarding you're coming with me. Thank you buddy.
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Appreciate it. Bill Seals cyclonereport.com
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cyclonereport.com rival slash on three media for Bill Seals with
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the all the Iowa State news. Thank you buddy.
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Talk to you, Bill. Guys, have a good one.
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Good to talk to Bill Seals as he breaks the law looking at his
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emails. We'll try.
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Funny. He's a good dude, Bill.
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Very in tune. And lots of Iowa State news to
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get us through the end of April as portal is open.
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I'm actually I want to see Ronnie Crooks ends up and and
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will we know is is there a a not a clearing house?
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No, we'll never know. How will we?
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No. You've been talking about this
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for five years. No.
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Shouldn't we? No.
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Well, yes. At least a ballpark.
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The ballparks are wrong. It's all funny money.
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Ken, I've been saying this to you for five years.
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But I want to know. I know you do, but you're not
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going to. And somebody might think they
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know. Guess what?
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They're full of crap. But they might know.
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For the most part, they're probably full of crap.
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We don't know. We don't have any clue, I cold
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said earlier. 2 1/2 to $3,000,000 for Elvill, for
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Garris. That's that's good for him, yes,
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good for him if it's true. Yeah.
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But we had estimates of 1 1/2 last year from Fool Garrison
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until the shot against Florida. They completely overspent and
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after that and after the no we. Did have a few moments, but
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sure. But you're looking for more
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production than what they got for.
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That they got their money's worth all in one shot.
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Yes, getting to the Sweet 16, that was a different one.
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And is there a guy that you really like out of this group
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coming in for Iowa State out of the portal?
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Yeah, the the Northwestern. Transport.
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You really like Singleton? Yeah, I do.
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He popped to you 6-8. I'm.
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I'm intrigued by the Prather kid already from Robin.
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Moore That was the last of the five to sign.
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He's like a a thick guard, 65 strong, pretty good offensive
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numbers. The other thing looking at the
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defensive metrics. Yeah, pretty good.
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So when you say thick like control Horton thick?
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No, not that thick. Cantrell was like his old.
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He was a big dude. He.
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Was so big. He was just good player.
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Yeah, absolutely. And a tremendous shooter on top
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of it. But yeah, a thicker guard, not
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kind of the lanky frame to him, but he's got he's got some
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girth, some size and right like Prather kind of just again,
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we're watching 2 minute highlight.
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No, you're right. You're.
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Right. How often is that guy sucks?
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Yeah, really. He's going to be a stiff.
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Pretty rare that you get that. That comes out of it.
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We talked about Leon Bond. Obviously that connection, the
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Taj Manning 1 is just odd. I mean, of the five guys,
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because he averaged, what, 3 points?
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A game? Not very many, yeah.
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I think it was something like that.
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That's the one that. Now, we both like Johnson's
22:00
game. We both mentioned it during the
22:03
when they were in Saint Louis at some point.
22:05
That was that. A Friday game could have been.
22:07
I think it was. All right.
22:08
We'll come back more on the Masters with our friend Matt
22:10
Rudy, long time golf writer. He joins us next Miller in
22:13
Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
22:18
When I put this music away for 360 days, yeah, sad.
22:22
What a great event. Absolutely phenomenal event.
22:24
Got a little nap on my birthday. Watch it.
22:27
Ohh yeah I forgot. Yes, close my eyes for a little
22:29
bit. It was a perfect Saturday.
22:32
HPD to you, HPD to you, belated. I love when the Masters falls on
22:36
that one because I got an excuse I got to.
22:38
Watch Golf My birthday, Leave me alone.
22:41
Matt Rudy Golf Digest, formerly Golf Digest, now ghost writing
22:45
books and still covering the game Soup to nuts and he joins
22:47
us. Hello Matt Rudy.
22:49
Great tournament as always. It lived up to it with one
22:52
exception. And it's strange to say this
22:54
because CBS is normally so damn button up.
22:57
It's such a great broadcast. You have to think of many errors
23:01
over the years, but man oh man, they had a rough 18th hole
23:04
yesterday, did they not? Wow.
23:07
You know, there are a few times where players would hit shots
23:10
and just because of where they happened to have the camera, you
23:12
couldn't see where anything ended up.
23:14
You know, they're there and that would happen on 18 a little bit.
23:17
And there were some other times too, where it was almost like a
23:20
mystery. And then and to me, number one,
23:23
that place has more coverage, more cameras, more wires, more,
23:27
you know, you're in the same spot every year.
23:29
So you kind of know where everything is going to happen in
23:31
front of you. And so, you know, to have a
23:33
tournament where you can literally watch every shot of
23:36
every player on the app to have the TV broadcast fall short is a
23:41
tough one. I think what's happening too is
23:43
the standards are getting so high in terms of what we can see
23:46
and measure and read about and analyze and, you know, just on
23:49
your phone that you know, to, for the broadcast to live up to
23:52
it is tough. But you know, I think the plus
23:57
seeing everything in high definition in 4K or, you know,
24:01
you can really see a lot of the, the words that there happened to
24:04
be any. So I'm probably inclined to give
24:05
him a pass on that. What does this mean for Rory in
24:09
terms of his legacy going forward?
24:11
The face of golf as he is finally breaks through at the
24:14
Masters, completes the career Grant same a year ago but now
24:17
getting into the company is with Jack and with Nick Ronaldo and
24:20
with Tiger as the only back-to-back winners.
24:23
What does this do with just his legacy as a golfer going
24:26
back-to-back here? You know, I think what it's
24:30
probably doing is he went through an artificial dry spell
24:35
for someone of his talent. You know, that long stretch
24:37
between majors, you would have predicted that he would have won
24:41
more than he did. And I just think the nature of
24:45
statistics and the nature of distribution and probability or
24:48
whatever you want to call it, if he goes on and wins 2 majors
24:51
this year, I think when you look back on his career, it's it'll
24:54
probably just even out the trajectory that we all would
24:57
have anticipated when he started winning so many of these, you
25:00
know, 12 or 15 years ago. And I think it's a testament to
25:04
what he's accomplished that you could be, you know, arguably one
25:08
of the five best players of the last, you know, you call it the
25:12
post Jack Nicholas era. He's certainly one of the five
25:15
best players in the post tech Nicholas era to, you know, to
25:18
win that many tournaments and have have it somehow be a
25:21
disappointment, which is really what we talked on this show, you
25:24
know, two years ago, three years ago, four years ago.
25:26
You know, the perception is that he didn't do enough.
25:29
So I, you know, I think he's kind of getting back to what
25:31
everybody expected. And I think also what this is
25:35
showing. And I know you always love
25:37
talking about live and about money, you know, things off the
25:40
golf course. But I but I really do think that
25:42
as he's been able to get away from that responsibility of
25:45
being the spokesperson for, you know, global golf, not live and
25:49
just be a golfer. You know, that that's probably
25:52
easier to do too. You know, you can just kind of
25:55
stay in your lane and answer the questions that you want to
25:58
answer and, and, and have a little bit more of a focus on
26:03
what's between the ropes as opposed to what's in the
26:05
boardroom. I mean that that's, that's got
26:06
to be a good thing for him too. I I was struck by how many
26:09
people social media and it draws all kinds as we know,
26:13
legitimately felt that Rory had an unfair advantage because he
26:16
was allowed to practice there for the three weeks leading up
26:19
to it. Well, so could have Scheffler,
26:21
so could have Brooks, so could have anybody that's won there
26:24
before. But they decided to play in
26:27
turn, Rory decided to focus on, I think he said.
26:30
I think I, I read a quote earlier over the weekend about
26:33
the 16 most important rounds of the year and of course meaning
26:37
the four majors. And it's hard to argue that, but
26:39
I was struck by how many people were legitimately believed that
26:43
this was unfair because Rory got to practice there and the other
26:45
guys didn't. Well, I mean, I mean, Scotty had
26:49
a kid. So I mean that that's that's
26:50
kind of a you know, that, that that's a obviously a blessing
26:53
for him, but it's a little bit of a disadvantage to in in terms
26:55
of prep. And you know, the Rory's got
26:58
responsibilities during tournament week that every other
27:01
player doesn't have. You know, he's, he's you know,
27:03
he's going in and answering questions.
27:04
He's in the jacket. He's you know, he's doing media,
27:06
he's got all the extra scrutiny. He's doing the Champions dinner.
27:10
You know, they're, they're I guess you could say that there's
27:13
an advantage to see the place. But I would also say that the
27:16
the way the course plays, for example, for the Augusta
27:19
National or the Augusta women's tournament, you know, the week
27:21
before by definition, and you know, that setup is not the same
27:26
as it is for the for the men's event.
27:29
So yes, you can get some familiarity broadly with what's
27:32
going on, but the conditions themselves are much different.
27:35
As we saw even tournament week, it was brutal on Thursday,
27:39
brutal. And, and to play in the
27:41
afternoon on Thursday was a really tough assignment.
27:44
And they actually backed off the golf course a little bit and
27:47
added some water and, you know, made it a little more, you know,
27:50
conducive to scoring. So I think, and we talked about
27:53
this a lot, I think the main feature that champions have is
27:57
that they can adapt to what's presented.
27:59
You know, if it's windy and difficult, they adapt.
28:01
If it's super low scoring, you know, shoot it out weak, they
28:05
adapt. And generally speaking, the
28:07
people that complain are either, you know, social media, you
28:12
know, people need to take or #2 they're players that aren't as
28:16
mentally strong as the greatest players are.
28:18
And and they want to pin the the reason for not playing well on
28:21
something other than their own play.
28:24
Did they back off too much? I was very hopeful that we were
28:29
going to see this be a real test after the back-to-back years of
28:31
sloppy wet conditions. I was hopeful that they were
28:34
going to dry this thing out and make it even more difficult.
28:37
Now you got a tremendously report and I guess that would be
28:39
the push back against it. Were you like me or I'm also a
28:42
sicko? I love the US Open.
28:43
You, you love those car crashes, man.
28:46
We've talked about this before. I, I am in favor of the best
28:50
rewarding, the best player. And I think what we saw from
28:55
Rory and I think the main difference is this Rory versus
28:59
the Rory from the, you know, the guy trying to win the career
29:01
Grand Slam. As you could see in events and
29:04
the ones in particular that stand out for me, the US Open in
29:10
LAA couple years ago, he was hitting a great hit every green
29:13
just couldn't make a pot. Saint Andrews British Open a few
29:16
years ago, you could just see the air coming out of his
29:19
balloon as he couldn't capitalize on these great shots
29:22
and the Rory we saw this week certainly had periods where he
29:26
was pretty scratchy and not in great shots fell behind, you
29:30
know, gave up a big lead. But then you could see the
29:33
bounce come back pretty quickly. And I think the reason this is
29:38
such a great tournament is that the the venue allows for that
29:43
let it can beat you up. You can make a double.
29:46
I mean, Justin Rose missed A1 foot putt.
29:49
You know, he's 3 parted, 3 parted on a par 5.
29:51
And it's a place where making a park and feel like making a
29:55
double because you did on the green and you can make an eagle
29:57
and you don't. And I think that those those
30:01
mind games and the opportunity that's in front of you to hit
30:04
the hero shot to make a score is what makes these final rounds so
30:10
compelling. And when the golfers demand
30:13
something specific out of you, one specific strategy that only
30:17
rewards one specific kind of player.
30:19
And what I liked about this leaderboard in particular is
30:21
that you had an, you know, a whole variety of players.
30:24
You've got Justin Rose is a 45 year old guy who's not a long
30:27
hitter. You've got Scotty Scheffler,
30:29
who's the number one player in the world.
30:30
You've got the defending champion.
30:32
You've got, you know, you've got, you know, all you've got
30:36
new players, you've got veterans.
30:37
I think those, those stories and the fact that a variety of
30:41
different kind of players can, can play under the conditions
30:44
they set up this week is a testament to the fact that that
30:47
these, you know, the Augusta National folks you're in and
30:50
you're out do the best job of setting up the venue.
30:53
Of course they have the most control, but they they do a
30:55
great job setting up the setting up the venue.
30:57
Yeah, and we just know this. We know Augusta because we watch
31:00
it every year and it doesn't move around.
31:01
It's such a fascinating spot. All right, here's a hypothetical
31:04
and maybe it's a better question for sports talk radio in, you
31:07
know, July. But if you put the back-to-back
31:10
winners, and I'm not going to ask you who would win, but I'm
31:12
going to ask you set odds if you would.
31:13
Jack and and Feldo and Tiger and Rory.
31:17
The Tiger's going to be the betting favorite, all right,
31:19
because he's so damn popular. But a lot of people love Jack.
31:22
Who would be the favorite at the betting shops of that?
31:26
Force. Well, I mean, you mean if
31:27
they're all in the. Prime of their career, prime of
31:30
the Yeah, I don't want 86 year old Jack playing Rory this week.
31:34
Yeah, I mean. I don't think there's any.
31:35
Yeah. I don't think there's any doubt
31:36
that Faldo would be the. Longest shot I hate.
31:39
To Dennis yeah, I hate to denigrate.
31:41
I mean, he's got a great record. I'm getting me wrong.
31:43
I'm not saying he's terrible, but.
31:45
And that and out of those four, he's substantially the shortest
31:48
hitter out of those four. And that would be a big
31:52
disadvantage. And are we playing in the golf
31:54
course the way it's configured now?
31:55
Are we playing? I mean, we're playing
31:58
essentially a 7700 yard golf course now in even when Tiger
32:03
was winning this, you know, Tiger was hitting wedges into
32:06
par fives. And that's just not, that's not
32:08
the golf course they're playing now.
32:09
But I mean it would be, it would be pretty hard to to draw a line
32:13
through those guys. But I think the big advantage
32:15
that the Tiger has certainly over Jack, Tiger short game is
32:19
much, much better than Jack's ever was.
32:22
Tiger was an excellent putter and an excellent clutch putter.
32:27
Rory's got a big advantage over Tiger and driving the ball.
32:30
You know, Jack was obviously a great driver with the ball too.
32:33
But I think if you're playing under the modern, the way the
32:36
courses are built now, I think it would probably be Tiger and
32:41
Rory would be right up there. Unbelievable.
32:43
Give me a name outside of the top five guy that you thought
32:46
had a great tournament, good maybe going forward and be
32:49
excited about the rest of the majors this year, and then a
32:52
thumbs down go the other way, somebody that you thought was in
32:55
good form just didn't have it this weekend.
32:57
A good and a bad from this weekend outside of the top tier
32:59
guys. Well, I, I mean, I, I'm sure
33:02
Bryson was looking for something a lot different than he than he
33:05
got. And, and, and I think it's a,
33:09
you know, Jon ROM in the same boat.
33:11
I think it's kind of a testimony to it being tricky to figure out
33:15
how to get ready for majors when you're playing and live events
33:18
where the format is different than major championships, The
33:21
courses are different, the formats are different.
33:23
And you're trying to evaluate just how valuable it is to win
33:27
an event or, you know, what is playing great at an event like
33:30
that mean? And I also think those players
33:33
have traditionally gotten ready for majors in different ways
33:36
before when they're on the PGA Tour and they just might, they
33:39
might not have figured out the exact cadence, certainly for the
33:42
first major of the year. It's a little different when
33:44
it's the middle of the summer and you're and you're doing some
33:46
different things. But, but I would say those two
33:48
guys certainly had a hugely disappointing week.
33:52
And, and I mean, Max Homer had a really good, it was the second
33:55
year, second year in a row. I think he's finished in the top
33:58
12 and he's really struggled over the last couple of years.
34:01
And I think it was really was a, it was a he became very famous
34:06
and he had some fantastic results and the attention that
34:10
that brings and the contracts that it brings and the changes
34:13
in equipment and all those things that come with being one
34:16
of the 10 most famous players in the world.
34:19
It takes some players a little bit longer.
34:21
You know, Justin Rose went through the same thing when he
34:23
signed a big equipment deal with Hanma and had a whole new bag of
34:26
gear and he basically couldn't play for a year, Not because the
34:28
equipment was bad, it's just was different from what he played
34:31
before. But I think having this kind of
34:34
result for him early in the season and, you know, giving him
34:38
the prospect of trying to get back into some of these elevated
34:40
events again, I think that's a big deal.
34:43
And it would be a great thing because he's a really, he's a
34:45
great interview. He's a great guy.
34:46
And you know, having charismatic younger players is a really
34:50
important thing for the tour. Last thing, and we'll reconvene
34:53
in about a month to talk about it.
34:54
A Ron a Minik Baron, a Mink. I, I have, I've never heard of
34:57
the course. It's in Philadelphia.
35:00
They've only played one major there before PGA apparently in
35:02
the early 6. Didn't you say Gary Player 1 of
35:05
Trent? Is that what you said last week?
35:06
I think. But regardless, it's been a
35:09
while since a major's been there.
35:10
Have you seen this course? If So, what can you tell us
35:12
about it? I have it's, you know, it's a
35:15
classic mainline Philadelphia golf course.
35:18
You know, when you, when you get up, for example, in the New York
35:20
area in Westchester County, where you have wings, but you
35:23
know, a lot of the great courses around New York City, the
35:25
mainline in Philly, Mary, and you know, there's, there's a lot
35:28
of courses in that same vein around Philadelphia.
35:32
And, and I really like what the PGA Championship is doing.
35:36
And I think they're they're trying to to move into some
35:40
venues where there's some, there's a there's a richer
35:43
history. You know, there was a while
35:45
where the PGA Championship, they tried to take it to their own
35:48
venues, you know, to the two courses they owned.
35:51
And because there's so much more revenue in an event when you own
35:54
the golf course. But I think, you know, I mean,
35:57
just just look at the one they had in Louisville.
35:59
I mean, not only did was it was it was the golf course kind of a
36:03
struggle, but the best player in the world gets arrested trying
36:05
to kind of pull in the parking lot before the tournament.
36:08
So I think if you can, if you can sort of draft off off of
36:12
some of the competitive history and the just the pure history of
36:16
the location, the region, the area, you know, the Chicago
36:19
area, Philadelphia area, you know, metro New York City,
36:24
There's there's this this rich history in terms of the golf
36:27
courses. I think that's, it's a great
36:30
move by the PGA and I think we're going to see my favorite
36:34
kind of, you know, combination setup, which is you're not
36:38
making it stupid hard like the US Open, but you know, there's
36:41
some trickiness to it. But they let the players shoot
36:44
the scores they're going to shoot.
36:46
I think the PGA gets the right. I think the British Open gets
36:49
the right and I think I think we're going to be rewarded with
36:52
a good leaderboard. Good stuff and you'll reward
36:55
Trent and I, our audience with another appearance proceeding
36:57
and then recapping it. Matt Rudy, thank you, bud for
37:00
what you do for us. Appreciate it.
37:01
And we'll talk to you in about a month.
37:02
Thank you, Matt. Trent, I think you're going to
37:05
start calling your birthday moving day, right?
37:07
Absolutely. I love when that this.
37:09
Year, absolutely good stuff, Matt.
37:10
Thank you, pal. See you, buddy.
37:12
Good to talk to you Matt Rudy, a long time golf writer.
37:16
Have you seen the odds for the Aronomatic?
37:19
I have not. I've got them in front of these
37:21
are from DraftKings for the PGA. OK, I'm going to guess Scheffler
37:25
still prohibitive. He is.
37:26
He's plus 380. No thanks on that price.
37:30
But my God, watching this guy come back from absolutely He put
37:33
a team in the ground Saturday morning. 36 holes to play, 12
37:36
shots off the lead lost by a dimples.
37:38
And I had a couple of now if Rose would have won, won, we
37:41
would have been in great shape. Would you have?
37:43
You but I had a couple of live tickets just even started on I
37:46
think it was Thursday, like you gotta have Scheffler in there
37:49
somewhere. Yeah and then when he get him, I
37:51
think I got him a + 1650 at one point Saturday.
37:54
I don't even remember the time. Yeah, but it was just one of
37:57
those things where. At that price, you got to take a
37:59
shot. Throwing 10 bucks on it just
38:01
because he is so good and we've seen this so many times that he
38:04
comes roaring back and gives yourself an out.
38:07
I, of course didn't get home. Rose would have been great.
38:11
That would have been the one. But you could just.
38:14
The lead there was something, it just wasn't quite there.
38:18
It was hard to put your finger on.
38:20
I never felt confident though, that he was ultimately, even as
38:23
the back nine started through a man coder, that he was suddenly
38:26
going to be the guy. McElroy Second choice plus 650.
38:30
OK, who else do you want to know about?
38:33
Where's our guy Bobby Mack? Yeah, when can we get Robert
38:36
McIntyre after that disaster? This.
38:38
Morning and get him at 66 to one.
38:40
Wow, that's a good bro. 60 to one for Victor Hovlin who
38:45
finished very strong. 35 to 1. Where's my boy Zander?
38:49
Zander Zander who's a short price he is.
38:53
I just passed him 16 to one. Jon ROM 12 to Shambo, 10.
38:58
I don't think I'm getting involved in either of those
38:59
markets. Cameron Young, 22 to one.
39:02
He's going to win another. He's good.
39:06
No, he's he's good. Now, this is not going to be a
39:08
bomber course. Isn't it OK?
39:10
So I wonder. Look, there was Gary Player that
39:12
won when they were there and I think it was 62.
39:14
How much the course kind of changes with that, what we're
39:16
used to and so many bomber courses that are out there, what
39:19
the rough's going to look like, because PGA is kind of all over
39:22
the place. I mean, you get a ton of
39:23
different flavors with this course.
39:24
We know the US Open, it's going to be tricked up.
39:27
It's going to be incredibly difficult rough.
39:28
It's going to be 1/2 shot penalty if you put it in there.
39:31
That's just the way the US Open is set up.
39:33
PGA, you could have a bomber course, you could have a pitch
39:36
and putt. You have a wild, wild range
39:38
here. So that will be one that will
39:40
require a little bit more coursework.
39:43
Now you did you also hear speak in the PGA, the continued talk
39:46
and moving it back to August. No.
39:48
Why? I'm ready for it.
39:50
You want it there. I'm ready for it.
39:52
How come? At the time I wanted to see how
39:55
this worked. Kind of a major a month all
39:56
throughout. We need something more in
39:58
August. Trent, we've got football.
40:01
We don't. We have.
40:01
Pre season we have pre season football.
40:04
We don't have football that matters on August 7th.
40:07
We've got the Hall of Fame game exactly I, I when I was stated
40:13
going through their practices. We're starting to 0 when we're
40:16
coming up with eight and four, six and six.
40:19
I gave it a chance, I like it. I'm ready to go back to audio.
40:23
I like it. Stretch out that golf season a
40:25
little bit more. You won't miss it in May.
40:28
No, there's other golf tournaments to bet on.
40:31
You won't miss the content in May maybe.
40:35
Maybe that was as much to do with it as anything for me.
40:37
I think that was a strong partner too.
40:39
Trent's plays of the day are next.
40:41
Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
40:44
Hi Miller, Condon. Welcome back.
40:46
Final segment Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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40:51
Trent Staley plays of the day. No baskets tonight.
40:55
A full slate of MLB. Yeah, I'm not full slate.
40:59
Decent slate. Some hockey as well.
41:02
Basketball tomorrow. So we've got the seven versus
41:04
the 8th. The winner gets in the playoffs.
41:06
The loser waits for the winner of the 8-9, no, the 910 game.
41:11
The loser of that game goes home.
41:12
Their season is over. Well, and the weird thing is, so
41:15
the Eastern Conference game tomorrow, the Heaton Hornets,
41:17
that's the 910 game, But the Western Conference nightcap on
41:20
Tuesday is A-78 game. You'd think they'd be together,
41:23
right? Where?
41:24
Where the Who's the home team? The Hornets in the East, and
41:28
then in the 7-8 game it is the Suns whenever that one locks
41:31
into the seventh seed. You'd think that you want to
41:33
have both of those, but maybe not, because I have no idea.
41:36
It just struck me as odd, at minimum, that that's the way
41:39
that they had it structured to their.
41:41
But meaningful basketball starts tomorrow.
41:43
Well, and I do wonder also, you're gonna finish it up with
41:47
the Warriors and the Clippers, Steph, if that's maybe the.
41:50
Testification is your answer. Yeah, making it about not TV
41:54
streaming. Because he's, well, they're on
41:56
prime. Yes, 3 baseball, 1 hockey.
42:00
All right. Let's start with the baseball.
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Get a jump on The Astros are ice cold.
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Seattle at 3:00 this afternoon. They're not going to go winless
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the rest of the way. So let's jump on board right
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now. Let's see if they can end the
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losing streak. Plus 158 against the Mariners.
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Going to grab the Bravos, play good bat baseball -143 as they
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take on the Marlins tonight. Going back to the well again
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with another Nationals. Over with that awful bullpen.
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Over 7 1/2 tonight against the Pirates and wrap it up.
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This may be our final time together that I get to say this.
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I'm taking your Jets tonight. Why plus 158?
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Because it might be the last time that I get to say that.
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There's no justification besides that.
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I just want to bring up your Winnipeg Jets one more time and
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maybe they could give you a payday at Plus 150.
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Well, I hope you lose because it's all about the draft.
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Oh, you're into this again? Oh geez.
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But I'll be rooting for you. We'll see this as a reverse hex
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because you know, I'll get it wrong.
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That'll work for me, yes, we'll work for you tomorrow again at
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noon. We appreciate you being with
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Trent tonight as we talk sports Monday through Friday.
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