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Call Her Daddy Says 'I Am Jane Doe' and other bizarre Cornell 7 takes · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Okay good morning good afternoon good evening wherever you may
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  Speaker 1: be and welcome back to honey badger radio my name
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  Speaker 1: is brian i'm here with allison and this is maintaining
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  Speaker 1: frame call her daddy says i am jane doe and
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  Speaker 1: other bizarre cornell seven takes um so of course the
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  Speaker 1: cornell seven case has gotten the attention of one alex
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  Speaker 1: cooper and her podcast call her daddy which is I
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  Speaker 1: must remind everybody, the most popular podcast in the world
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  Speaker 1: with women. It has two and a quarter million subscribers.
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  Speaker 1: This video has been watched over a million and a
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  Speaker 1: half times. And it has been received positively by the audience.
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  Speaker 1: If the comment section is to be believed and she's
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  Speaker 1: not botting her replies or anything like that. And she
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  Speaker 1: is basically discussing the Cornell 7 circus and specifically using
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  Speaker 1: it as a platform to discuss women's issues and campus.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how else to put it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: are we trying to be like PC here with the language? Like,
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  Speaker 1: can we say the R word or are we still
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  Speaker 1: using the fruit language? as a substitute for it. I
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  Speaker 1: just want to know where we sit on that because
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  Speaker 1: that's what this is about. And she brought on a
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  Speaker 1: guest and her guest is a professor of Cornell University
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  Speaker 1: named Kate Mann. And Kate Mann has written many books
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  Speaker 1: because she is a professor at Cornell. So what was that?
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  Speaker 1: Did you do something? Oh, it's just me.
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  Speaker 2: I just, I just quit and refresh. Just to see
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  Speaker 2: if the, the whatever was happening with the bowls and
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  Speaker 2: my internet.
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  Speaker 1: I see.
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  Speaker 2: Cause I was like, everything was going Roboto and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm tired of this. So I'm just going to pop
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  Speaker 2: in and pop out. I thought I would be very stealthful,
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  Speaker 2: but she sensed it immediately.
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  Speaker 1: Well, because, because discord makes like a sound when you
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  Speaker 1: do that. That's why. Yeah. Wasn't really my, I don't
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  Speaker 1: have super senses. I'm just on discord.
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  Speaker 2: My stealthing didn't work here.
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  Speaker 1: No, it did not work. Anyway, Kate Mann is a professor,
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  Speaker 1: associate professor of philosophy at Cornell University, having previously been
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  Speaker 1: a junior fellow at the Harvard Society of Fellows from
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  Speaker 1: 2011 to 2013. She works in moral, social, and feminist philosophy. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: moral philosophy, social philosophy, and feminist philosophy, because those things
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  Speaker 1: are absolutely compatible. She has written three books.
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  Speaker 2: This is the state of our education, huh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it has been for a long time. She's written,
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  Speaker 1: I see three books here on Amazon. And they're written
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  Speaker 1: in multiple languages. So she's reaching lots of people. One
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  Speaker 1: of them is called Down Girl, The Logic of Misogyny.
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  Speaker 1: Another one is called Entitled, How Male Privilege Hurts Women.
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  Speaker 1: And her last one is called Unshrinking, How to Face
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  Speaker 1: Fat Phobia. So she's also a body positive person. Advocate.
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  Speaker 1: And she is the guest on Alex Cooper's show, and
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  Speaker 1: they're going to be discussing the Cornell 7 case. So
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  Speaker 1: this should be.
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  Speaker 2: Not a lawyer. Not a lawyer.
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  Speaker 1: She's not a lawyer.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: No. She's even better, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: You think that's what they would want for a lawsuit,
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  Speaker 2: discussing a lawsuit, but apparently that's not what we're doing
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  Speaker 2: with this. We are going to go directly through feminist.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure... I'm not sure a lawyer would have
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  Speaker 1: been much better anyways. Well, it depends.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, somebody who actually knows the law probably would
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  Speaker 2: have been better. Oh, interesting fact. One of the defendants
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  Speaker 2: in the case is trying to get the special prosecutor,
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  Speaker 2: whose name escapes me at the moment because I'm terrible
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  Speaker 2: with names, but she's trying to get the special prosecutor
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  Speaker 2: recused from the case because I believe it's because of
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  Speaker 2: her public statements. prejudicial and they're also trying to make
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  Speaker 2: sure that anyone on the grand jury who serves that
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  Speaker 2: they get questioned about whether or not they've seen the
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  Speaker 2: special prosecutor's statements public statements because she's made it very
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  Speaker 2: clear what side of the supposedly blind scales of justice
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  Speaker 2: she's uh you know i won't even want to put
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  Speaker 2: say putting her thumb on but you know slamming her
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  Speaker 2: entire fist on So the question here is, is she
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  Speaker 2: out of control, a prosecutor out of control? And the
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  Speaker 2: answer is, of course, yes. But we all know that
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't matter when it comes to, what is this,
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  Speaker 2: a civil case? A civil case where Jane Doe is
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  Speaker 2: going after literally everybody who could possibly be connected to
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  Speaker 2: her choice, choice, choice. to have consensual sex with two
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  Speaker 2: men in a fraternity house. Honestly, I can't, the reason
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  Speaker 2: why it was originally dismissed was the DA looked at
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  Speaker 2: her sworn statement, and I know a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: are gonna be going like, oh, that was just coerced
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  Speaker 2: or pressured. She had her lawyer or her advocate there.
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  Speaker 2: She had an advocate appointed by the university from the
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  Speaker 2: victim services advocacy department. She went through that with the
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  Speaker 2: person who drafted it and signed down it repeatedly. I
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  Speaker 2: apologize if you're hearing any weird sounds. My ginger cat
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  Speaker 2: has just decided to engage in shenanigans.
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  Speaker 1: Don't want to hear anything.
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  Speaker 2: For no apparent reason. Oh, okay. Well, I've covered it
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  Speaker 2: if you do. But regardless, she has every opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: amend her statement. Okay? And... Every opportunity to say this
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  Speaker 2: isn't the statement I don't want to submit, I want
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  Speaker 2: to submit to the police. The DA reviewed that, found
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  Speaker 2: nothing actionable because there is nothing actionable under New York
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  Speaker 2: law until they change it so that if a woman
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  Speaker 2: drinks and a man has sex with her, he's a rapist,
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  Speaker 2: which they're trying to do, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: They're trying to do that. Feminists are trying to do that.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't go the other way though. If a man drinks
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  Speaker 2: a glass of wine and a woman has sex with him,
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  Speaker 2: she's not a rapist. So it's always one way and
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  Speaker 2: they're trying to change the law. But currently in New York,
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  Speaker 2: you can have sex with an inebriated woman as long
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  Speaker 2: as she's not unconscious. Like as long as she can
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  Speaker 2: actually say no. Even if it's a drunken yes, it
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  Speaker 2: still qualifies as a yes. So that's why the DA
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  Speaker 2: dismissed it. Okay, so that's why I say consensual, because
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  Speaker 2: based on New York state law, it was. Except for
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  Speaker 2: potentially the one fraternity brother that she sodomized, allegedly, and
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  Speaker 2: the other one that she inadvertently admitted to having sex
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  Speaker 2: with while he was incapacitated and she knew it. Is
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  Speaker 2: that that whole exchange where she says, oh, what did
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  Speaker 2: she say? She says, you might not remember this. All right, so, bitch, stop.
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  Speaker 2: I'll stop you right there. Okay, so you know the
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  Speaker 2: day after that he might not remember it, which means
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  Speaker 2: you were cognizant enough to know his state of awareness
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  Speaker 2: and that it might not be sufficient to retain the
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  Speaker 2: memory of what you did to him. And you still
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  Speaker 2: did it. But that's actually skirting much more towards New
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  Speaker 2: York's definition of sexual assault than whatever was done to her.
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  Speaker 2: ironically and she just she's just says that she just
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  Speaker 2: lets it off in passing hey i don't know if
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  Speaker 2: you remember this but we had sex or i did
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  Speaker 2: something sexual to you i mean you you look like
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  Speaker 2: you might not remember but i still did it aren't
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  Speaker 2: i a wild girl like what the fuck and then
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  Speaker 2: Call Her Daddy. All right, let's start, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to start with Alice Cooper's opening bit.
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  Speaker 1: She has a little monologue in the beginning where she
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  Speaker 1: makes some claims about campus rape.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, everyone. Welcome back to a really, really important episode
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  Speaker 4: of Call Her Daddy. So if you have been on
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  Speaker 4: social media this week, you have most certainly seen four
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  Speaker 4: words everywhere. I am Jane Doe. As a woman, you
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  Speaker 4: probably saw those words and you knew exactly what they meant.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe even your body knew before your brain did.
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  Speaker 2: What? Even my, I don't understand women.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I am Jane Doe is a hashtag that's
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  Speaker 1: going around. It's the new hashtag me too. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you knew this or not.
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  Speaker 2: So you are Jane Doe?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. All women are Jane Doe. And if they're not
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  Speaker 1: Jane Doe, they're terrible people. So there you go.
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  Speaker 2: This is where human sentience goes to die. I know
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  Speaker 2: this woman has not read any of the facts of
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  Speaker 2: the case.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. None of them. Doesn't matter, Allison. She has
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  Speaker 1: a feeling. She has a feeling in her body. 2.24
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  Speaker 1: million subscribers. She can say whatever she wants and she'll
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  Speaker 1: have a giant army of women that will believe her.
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  Speaker 1: She doesn't have to know the facts of the case.
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  Speaker 1: She feels the facts. Feels them. That's what she's telling
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  Speaker 1: us right now. If you ever felt this way, then
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  Speaker 1: it's the truth.
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  Speaker 2: No, honestly, I read the entire thing that what Jane
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  Speaker 2: Doe has said from her original sworn statement to the DA,
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  Speaker 2: sent to the DA, which she signed off on and
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  Speaker 2: she had counsel while it was being drafted, to her
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  Speaker 2: new civil suit, which is completely like, you know, she's
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  Speaker 2: written because she wants to get money, right? So it's
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  Speaker 2: not going to include all of the stuff she said
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  Speaker 2: to the DA, right? which the DA used to determine
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  Speaker 2: that there was nothing actionable. So I've looked at all this,
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  Speaker 2: I've researched it, and I don't really feel any sympathy
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  Speaker 2: for this individual, nor do I feel akin to her.
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  Speaker 2: Because if she's not an enormous degenerate, she is an
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  Speaker 2: actual sexual abuser. And nobody is talking about that. Nobody
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  Speaker 2: is talking about the entirely valid interpretation based on her
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  Speaker 2: own words that she had sex with a man she
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  Speaker 2: knew was at least had a high probability of being
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  Speaker 2: so incapacitated. He couldn't remember what happened. And then the
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  Speaker 2: other dude apparently woke up and realized she sodomized him. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know the specifics, but that's what he's saying. Like,
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  Speaker 2: are we going to address these issues at all? No.
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  Speaker 2: You have a feeling, eh? Well, that's exactly what feminism
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  Speaker 2: was based on. A feeling and nothing else. So for
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  Speaker 2: the last 60 years, we've been ruled by a feeling.
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  Speaker 2: Women's feelings. You know, maybe it's because I'm some kind
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  Speaker 2: of reptile, but that sounds horrific. Like, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to be ruled by women's feelings. First of all, my
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  Speaker 2: feelings seem to be very different than this woman's feelings.
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  Speaker 2: So where did my feelings... Oh, of course, I'm a pygmy.
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  Speaker 2: To the stockades with me. But also, what about justice?
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  Speaker 2: What about logic and reason and accountability? Oh, what am
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  Speaker 2: I even talking about? None of that matters.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: This is something involving a woman that might be held
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  Speaker 1: accountable for something. All that other stuff goes out the window.
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  Speaker 1: None of it matters.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so many women, so many women just read that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the stuff the young men sent out to
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  Speaker 2: their chat, their chat group, and then they just decided
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  Speaker 2: based on that that they were sexual assaulters, even though
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  Speaker 2: none of that is proof of sexual assault. Sure, it's
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  Speaker 2: proof of sort of being rude and crude, but it's
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  Speaker 2: not proof of sexual assault. And also, if there was, like,
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  Speaker 2: what's astounding to me is also now it's the 57
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  Speaker 2: right it's not just the seven two of which probably
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  Speaker 2: did nothing other than just were in the vicinity right
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  Speaker 2: it's it is the 57 guys in the chat group
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  Speaker 2: now that that are that have to be implicated in
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  Speaker 2: all of this presumably also including the president of the
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  Speaker 2: fraternity that basically disinvited her to the next site of
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  Speaker 2: uh of the the alleged gangbang, right? She wanted to
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  Speaker 2: go back to their Halloween event, their Halloween party. And
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  Speaker 2: he disinvited her after another one of them said, oh no,
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  Speaker 2: it's okay. You guys, you can come over, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in a social aspect. You can like talk to us,
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  Speaker 2: study with us. And then the fraternity president was like,
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  Speaker 2: but not parties. You seem to have an issue with
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  Speaker 2: the parties. So no, no parties. No place where we're
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  Speaker 2: going to be imbibing alcohol or drugs. We're cutting you
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  Speaker 2: off from that. And that was the moment in her
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  Speaker 2: own sequence, in her own words, that she said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I was raped when they cut her off. Come on.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody's going to contend. No woman, no woman with any
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  Speaker 2: platform whatsoever. Did Pearl talk about this? Maybe we can
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  Speaker 2: lay our hopes on Pearl. It's going to point that out.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to keep going. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: The words themselves are simple, right? But they carry the
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  Speaker 4: weight of countless stories we hold as women, the stories
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  Speaker 4: of our friends, of our sisters, of our mothers, of
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  Speaker 4: our grandmothers, and for many of us, our own stories.
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  Speaker 4: And right now, one of those stories that has come
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  Speaker 4: to light is forcing the country to pay attention. She
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  Speaker 4: was a 20-year-old student at Cornell University who went to
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  Speaker 4: a frat party one night to see a guy she
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  Speaker 4: thought was her friend. She eventually went upstairs with him
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  Speaker 4: and another fraternity brother. And it was in that room
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  Speaker 4: that things took an absolutely disturbing turn. And then at 1.42
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  Speaker 4: in the morning... A message went out to a fraternity
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  Speaker 4: group chat saying, free pussy. Another fraternity brother responded, I
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  Speaker 4: fucking love Chi Phi. And later, someone asked, shop still open?
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  Speaker 4: Let me be really clear about something. These are men
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  Speaker 4: talking about a woman.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Fifty seven guys. And there's like three responses. She missed
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  Speaker 2: the one where the guy said, so you just go
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  Speaker 2: there and whip it out. Now, of course, that's ambiguous
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  Speaker 2: because he might be like in. Confused or disgusted or
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  Speaker 2: just wanting to make a crude joke.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But but here's the other thing. Fifty seven guys were
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  Speaker 2: texted this.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I think one other guy. went up there with intent
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  Speaker 2: to do anything, which was what was going to turn
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  Speaker 2: into the foursome, which she declined, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, what?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, my dog is... Somebody has come to the door,
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  Speaker 2: so he just announced him. Can you actually hear that?
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  Speaker 2: Is that something you guys can hear?
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  Speaker 1: I heard something, but you were saying... Go back to
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  Speaker 1: what you were saying.
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  Speaker 2: Just a second. Calm down. Sit down, bud. Sorry, guys. Okay, Brian,
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  Speaker 2: can you just play some more? Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just going to play some more.
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  Speaker 4: A human being. Their classmate. Their supposed friend. When Jane
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  Speaker 4: Doe went to Cornell's campus police three weeks later, she spent...
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  Speaker 4: hours with an investigator giving a detailed account of what
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  Speaker 4: she says happened to her that night. And she was
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  Speaker 4: pretty damn clear about one thing. She told the investigator
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  Speaker 4: she was 100% confident she had been raped. I wanted
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  Speaker 4: to come on and I wanted to talk about this
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  Speaker 4: today because it is so important to note it has
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  Speaker 4: been almost a decade since since the Me Too movement
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  Speaker 4: first started. A decade. How the hell are we still here?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 4: We have been talking about campus rape, consent, the way
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  Speaker 4: institutions fail women for even longer than that. We've got
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  Speaker 4: the language. We have the research.
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  Speaker 2: We have the.
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  Speaker 4: Tools and the resources to understand sexual violence, to help
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  Speaker 4: survivors and to prevent it from happening. And yet we
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  Speaker 4: are still having the exact same conversations. It is exhausting.
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  Speaker 2: Brian? Brian?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I paused it. I just wanted her to finish
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  Speaker 1: her sentence.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: So, first of all, this is an issue that is
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  Speaker 2: massively distorted. But I'll just address the facts of the
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  Speaker 2: case here. What she says about consent, or what she
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  Speaker 2: says about whether or not she was raped... does not
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  Speaker 2: bear on her saying, yes, 100%, I assert that I
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  Speaker 2: was raped. That doesn't mean she was. That is her
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  Speaker 2: opinion on what happened. And when I looked into her
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  Speaker 2: other statements, she believes that enthusiastic consent is the standard
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  Speaker 2: of rape. And later on in her own testimony to
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: the Title IX testimony, so this long interview that she had,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: She says, she's asked specifically, okay? She has asked, was it,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: in regards to her consent, was it no or I
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: am tired, right? And she says, I think it was more,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I am tired. I was tired. So she's translating either
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: being tired or just not into it, into lack of
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: enthusiastic consent, which she has been told, by her college
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: campus is the standard by which we adjudicate whether or
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: not rape happens, which it isn't. New York State does
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: not hold that as a standard. So she thinks based
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: on the standard that she was told in her consent
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: courses that she was raped, but she was not raped
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: according to the standard of law. So her estimation of
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: what happened is not accurate to the law. Now, of course,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: feminists want to make it the law. So in other words, guys,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: if she's not completely content and happy with what happened
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: at any point prior to the statute of limitations running out,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: which they also want to get rid of, so that
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: means pretty much any point to the point where you
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: can no longer be charged with a crime, you're in
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: the grave, she feels like she didn't have a good
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: time she wasn't sufficiently enthusiastic, she can retroactively withdraw consent.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Because enthusiasm doesn't mean just enthusiasm during the event, apparently.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: It also means feeling enthusiastic about it until the statute
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: of limitations runs out, I guess. So this is the
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: standard they want to create. That's what the special prosecutor
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: as an actual activist of the law, they wanna change
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: the law too. And that's the standard by which she
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: judged herself sexually assaulted. Enthusiastic consent, which I don't know,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: was she enthusiastic at the time? Did she become less
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: so over time as the rumors started to rise? As
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: the fraternity president sort of chilled on her actually attending
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: their events, who knows? But that's the standard by which
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: she said that. But here's another thing. In her testimony,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: there is an actual silver bullet for the defense, and
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: it's just what I just said. The person questioning her said,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: was it no or was it I felt tired? And
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: she said, I think it was more I felt tired.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Get right there. Having sex while you feel tired is
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: not rape. And in particular, the third dude coming up
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: to you and saying, hey, can I join? And you say, yeah,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I'm tired.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: And then him going off and doing something else is
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: also not rape. She can say whatever she wants about
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: what happened, but what happened still has to be adjudicated
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: based on the facts.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: So this is not even me. The fact that they
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: didn't include this isn't meaningful. It doesn't bear.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: It's like this woman has no concept how law.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Works or evidence. What am I talking about? Of course
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: she doesn't. She has a feeling, guys. She has a feeling.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Just like feminists had a feeling back in the 60s.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Then all of this shit came out of it. And
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: they never had to actually take that feeling and make
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: it touch grass. Okay. Shall we do some more?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, let's do some more.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: And more importantly, it is infuriating. More than one in
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: five women have experienced rape. One in five women. So
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: every single.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: So we're just going to keep saying this until people
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: believe it to be real.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: That's, this is like, well, there's lots of problems with it.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, of course there is. But you see, have you
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: noticed that no matter how many times you debunk these things,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: they just keep saying them and people just keep, people
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: just keep believing them because they want to believe them.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: And the truth literally doesn't matter. It doesn't. And so I've,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but consent doesn't exist. It doesn't. Because as
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: a state, it doesn't protect men at all. They should
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: just forget about it. Like we are not operating in
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: a framework that could possibly be fair to men under
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the consent model, which is basically the idea that consent
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: itself is the highest moral goal that you could cross
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: before you can like be intimate with someone. Because consent
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The truth doesn't matter. Evidence doesn't matter. None
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: of this matters. 2.24 million subscribers, one and a half
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: plus million comments, all in support, an entire media and
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: political apparatus pointed right at the Cornell 7, and not
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: just the Cornell 7, and not just the 50 guys
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: that are in the voice chat, but every man in
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the country. is under scrutiny now. This is what it
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: has become and nothing that is true is going to matter.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: It's basically getting to the point now that the only
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: way that we can fix this is if men just
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: take power away from women by force. I don't know
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: what else to do. There is like, I'm serious, the
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: truth is irrelevant. Logic irrelevant you can have the best
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: arguments on earth you could be like the fucking Thanos
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: of debate bros and slam it and it wouldn't matter
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: because they're just gonna Carry on with what they're doing
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: anyway because they have all the people that matter on
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: their side all the people in power and they're just
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: gonna use it and that's why I I'm not saying
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: it's a waste of time. I'm just making you aware
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: of what we're actually up against. And it's not just lies.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: It's about people who don't care that they're lying and
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: they know they're lying and they're doing it anyways. So
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know, like for all of this
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: that we're going to be looking at, that's the reality.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Nobody involved in this conversation is interested in being honest.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: They don't. They just want to do what they want
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: to do. And they're going to do it because at
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, it just comes down to power.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: With a platform, like with a huge platform.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Honestly, the problem with men will have to take women's
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: power away is that the men in power like things
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: just the way they are. I know.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I know. And I get that. I get that. I'm
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: not even saying that I have a proposal for that.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: But I will say that if you're a man and
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: you're interested in women... I suggest very strongly that you
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: not try to operate within this consent framework because it
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: doesn't exist. It doesn't. It's a trap. No man is safe.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're married. No man is safe.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: If that's the framework, if you see consent as the
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: highest bar that you cross to be seen as ethical,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: it's not because it doesn't exist because they just move
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: it around. And what I mean by that is we're
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: going to get into it a little bit later. in
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: this video, these women are gonna start reframing what a
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: lack of consent is, and you're gonna find out that
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: there is no, like, it's not a static thing. It's
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: whatever the woman feels like in the moment, period. That's
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: the way it is now. This is why the men
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: who might have themselves been sexually assaulted or, you know,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: sodomized or whatever, that doesn't matter because they're men, fuck them. Irrelevant.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: The woman who basically decided to ride the train and
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: do all of the stuff that she did, and then
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: later on, because somebody said, you know, if you call
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: it rape, you can, you'll basically protect your reputation. And
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: you'll get back at those people that didn't invite you
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: to the Halloween party. And she's like, you know what?
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I'm going to call it rape. That's a good idea.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: And everybody got behind her because she was like, I
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: know I can lie and I'll have all the protection
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: in the world for doing it. And she does. So like,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: if it's the point where a woman who openly describes
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: herself as a whore, and I'm not, Calling her that
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: she called herself that she knows what she is and
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: she did it on purpose and she was fine with
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: it and that she can turn around and call herself
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: a victim and completely reframe it. Then consent doesn't exist.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: It doesn't exist as a concept at all. And that's
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: my primary thing is to address that. Guys, the sexual
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: revolution was a disaster, especially for men. Absolutely a disaster.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: And you have to remove yourself from that framework completely
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: and find another way to interact with people that has
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with that because you are not safe,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: no matter what. The law's not on your side. None
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: of that's on your side. It's all on the side
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: of whoever is the most beneficial to the current political zeitgeist,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: and that's women. And it will probably, if anything, it'll
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: always be women. So don't do it. Just saying, don't
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: do it. But one in five statistic, never going away.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: It's never going away. It's not. They're just going to
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: keep lying. They don't care.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: That's honest to God truth.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: And the depth of the lie is what I want
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: to talk about because I'm always autistic about those things.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: But just to clarify, I think what you mean by
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: consent is not the actual meaning.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: No, not the act of consent. I mean, the frame...
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: What I mean is, like, it seems to be the
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: case now that there was a saying, it's a liberal saying,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: as long as it's not hurting anybody and everybody involved
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: agrees to do it, then it's fine, right? No matter
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: what it is, right? Drugs, alcohol, whatever. As long as,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: and the saying is always, as long as it doesn't
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: hurt anybody, it's fine. The problem with that is that
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: now you can be doing stuff that is consensual at
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: the front and everybody's totally down with it, but then
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: a woman can be like, you know what, actually, I
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: didn't really care for that that much. I think it's
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: rape now. So that means that the contract that might
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: have been established is irrelevant. It's completely nullified because A
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: woman decided it was. So if that is always on
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: the table, I'm not saying that it's always going to happen,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: but if that's always on the table as a possibility,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: as an option, then men should not participate. It is
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: not a good deal for them. They should not participate
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: at all because nobody has their best interests. Nobody's going
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: to look out for them. They might as well not
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: do it. And look, Even if those guys, and they
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: probably won't be found guilty of anything, most likely, because again,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: it's not a criminal suit. But even if those guys
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: are completely found innocent and it's all put out there
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: and it's like they write articles about it, guess what?
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: It's not going to change the minds of most people
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: are going to still believe that those guys were rapists.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Look at every case that we have talked about that's
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: like this. Brock Turner, they still think he's a rapist. Um, the,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: the Duke lacrosse, the, the Rolling Stone one. Nope. People
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: have either memory hold it or they still think that
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: there was something suspicious going on. Fucking Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: every single incident where it's like, there's not really any
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: evidence here. This doesn't like, there's not a sure for
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: sure conviction, whatever trials ongoing. Doesn't matter. Everyone just assumes
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: man is guilty until proven innocent. That's basically the framework.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: So guys, Do not participate. Be celibate, whatever. But do
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: not participate because it is going, it is putting yourself
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: at risk. You're basically giving a girl a loaded gun
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: and you're saying, I hope you don't shoot me with this.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: And hell, maybe she won't. But one might. If they're like, well,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I don't like what he said or I feel slighted
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: by this person or whatever. It happens all the time.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, for the purposes, ultimately what I'm
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: landing on is Consent as the model for what is
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: permissible behavior or what is considered ethical as the highest
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: model is just consent. It is not good enough. It
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: is broken. It is functionally inoperable. So men should not
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: do it. I'm just telling them to protect themselves. That's
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Yeah.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: No, let me put it this way. Okay. When you
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: have sex with a woman, you are giving her control
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: over your future. So maybe when you see the drunken
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: woman calling for the threesome in the frat house, just
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: consider this mess is what you are giving control over
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: your future to. Are you going to get the job
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: that you want? Are you going to be able to graduate?
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Are you going to be hounded by people for a
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: good portion of your life, if not the rest of
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: your life? Are you going to have this trail after you,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: which means You can kiss having a family goodbye, probably.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Do you think that the Cornell 7, all those guys,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: there's a woman in the future for them? Probably not
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: a very good one, if there is. Think about everything
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: that you'll lose by engaging in this behavior. And then
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: the other thing is the more extreme the behavior, the
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: more likelihood that she is going to do something like this.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: because she wants to repair her reputation such as it is,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: or because there's a payout. Because for some reason, we
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: think that when women engage in group sex, they're automatic victims.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: And that is an unfortunate attitude that we have. So
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: just be aware. Be aware. That whenever you have sex
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: with a woman, you are putting your future in her hands.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: So just be careful. Honestly, the more that I see
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: this mess, this absolute devastation, the more I wonder if
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: the traditional notion of sexuality was actually somewhat protective towards men. Because,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, you had those breach of promise laws, right?
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: But at the very least, they kept men from being
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: charged with rape. Like, you know, and as horrible as
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: it is, they did something to mitigate the damage when
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: a woman got a hair up her ass about consensual
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: sex with a man. Because at least she's not charging
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: him with a crime that could get him, you know,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: dragged behind a truck. You know, but but yeah, that's
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: 100 percent, Brian. And yeah, exactly. What you mean by
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: consent culture is basically women's feelings adjudicated based on women's feelings.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 100%. And with the cosigning of other women and
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: men that would just go along with her. So like,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: why would a guy... I'm sorry, but no amount of
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: ass is worth that. I mean, I would probably work
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: on trying to, like, not, I don't know, suppress your
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: sexual desires altogether. Because it seems to be the safest
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: thing to do. I don't know. I'm sorry. That sounds extreme, but.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know. You know? Just, like.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: But, yeah, the problem is that it's always getting worse. Like,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: feminists are always making.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I know. I know it has to... Something has to
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: be done, you know? But I'm just saying, like, um...
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I get it. I was that age.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I understand. But it's not a good idea. It's not
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: worth it here. No, no, not at all. Anyway.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Do you want me to start doing a little bit
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: of an analysis of what she's saying? One in five?
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Yes. Well, yeah, we could. I mean, I know it's
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: the Mary Koss thing, but go ahead if you want to.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I have some super- No, actually, it's more than that. Okay.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: You know what?
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Do the super chows, and then we'll go into some statistics.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: All right. I got a super chow before the show
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: started from Dark Ikimura for 20 bucks. It's completely irrelevant,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: but I got to read it anyway. Hey, Jerry, NBC's
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: going to pay for our plane ride to Israel for
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: one last fling.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Thank you for that. I don't know what that means,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: but I read it. Roboto gives us a dollar and says,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: if it's about a woman feeling, doesn't that mean you
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: can end feminism by having another woman feelings who says no? No,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: you see, that's what you don't get. Roboto, you're spurging out.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: If women decide something, there is a hierarchy of women's feelings,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: and that one doesn't serve the sisterhood, so that one fails.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Roboto then gives us another dollar and says, is campus
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: police as actual police who are empowered by the state
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: and obligated to uphold the law of the land? and
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: not the law of the university. No, campus courts are
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: completely different animals, and that's why women usually use them,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: because the standard of evidence is a lot lower. So,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: all right, go ahead and do your analysis. Those are
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: the two things.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: All right, so the one in five comes from, it
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: doesn't come from costs. It actually comes from the, just
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: going to quickly, AA, 2019 statistic, I believe. And it
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: puts undergraduate men at two point two percent of sexual aggression,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: which is absolutely the lowest that has ever been found. Right,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: so that is absolutely the rock bottom in terms of
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: male experience or male reporting on sexual assault. So right
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: there it's something wonky is going on. The AAU's male
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: response rate, and the reason why I'm talking about the
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: men is because you'll notice that whenever we talk about
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: this stuff, consent culture, rape culture, sexual assault on college campuses,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: there is a group of people as victims that are
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: never brought up. And it's always men, of course. And
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: the problem with that, and hopefully it'll become apparent when
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I continue, is that that omits almost half the problem,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: if not half the problem. And the particular study that
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: they're citing, AAU, not only had a really low male
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: response rate, it had a male response rate of about 7.9,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: which means that This was not representative of the population.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: I think this was a Utah state, right? And it
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: was not representative of the population. It had a low
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: response rate among women and even lower response rate among men,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: which is actually really critical when you're trying to understand
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: these statistics and what they mean, because there is another study,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Jorles et al, 2022, prevalence of sexual victimization among female
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: and male college students. And that particular study set up
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: a methodology to try to figure out the rate of
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: response based on how often people are asked. So they
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: send out a survey and then they'll do a follow-up
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: and then a follow-up and then a follow-up and see
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: how long it takes before they get the person to
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: actually fill out the survey. And what they found was
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: For women, the rate at which they disclose sexual abuse
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: or sexual violence or sexual assault does not change depending
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: on when in the sequence they respond. So it's the
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: same when they respond with the first followup or the fifth.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter. With men, the men who respond
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: on the fifth followup, so they've gotten first followup, second, third, whatever,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: to the fifth, they report more sexual assault. So what
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: they found out is that men bounce from these surveys.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: So if you send out a survey and you ask men,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: were you sexually assaulted or were you forced to have sex,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: physically forced or incapacitation to the point where you couldn't
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: say no with drugs and alcohol? And if you just
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: send it to them, they'll bounce.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: The first the first their first. bow at the frickin' survey.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: They won't. The guys who've experienced this won't reveal it.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: It takes a while, either for them to feel comfortable
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: or feel responsible, whatever it is that compels men to
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: reveal this. It takes a while for them to actually respond.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Women just, they just, they volunteer it. Just freely. You
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: just put a survey in front of them. And they're like,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: you know, I was raped. I, I, I, I just
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: feel like I need to talk about it. And I
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: just want to talk because it was so harrowing and
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: so horrible. And I just, I want to tell you
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: all about it, all of the details and every single
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: time it happened. And, and the guy's like, ma'am, this
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: is a survey for the telephone company. You know, that's women.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Men are like, they see that question, click. They're like, uh,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Were you sexually assaulted? Did you experience being forced to
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: have sex? And they're like, yeah, I'm not going there. Nope.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: That's staying buried. We're not talking about that. And it
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: takes a while, again, for men to actually start to
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: feel comfortable about revealing it. Which is also why the
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: National Intimate Partner in Sexual Violence surveys in the past
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: were probably the gold standard for recovering male experience of
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: sexual violence because they had interviewers who would follow up
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: and would help, not lead, but help people understand the
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: questions and give them time with it. And then when
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: they went to an online survey, they get the same
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: phenomenon that men just bounce.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: For whatever reason, that's the way it works. This is
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: why you get this spread with men. And that's why
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: you get this survey that they're citing with such a
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: low male prevalence rate. But of course, the female prevalence
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: rate is very high. Probably because women front load this stuff, right? Yeah.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: They want to talk about it. They're invested in it.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: They want it to be heard. They want it to
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: be seen, right? But so the first wave of women
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: responders were the ones who were motivated, right? And even
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: the people who put this survey out say that this
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: is a confound on their particular survey, and that's the AAU,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: something something Utah, I believe. So what are the actual stats?
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: That 2% is like the absolute floor for sexual violence
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: done to men on college campuses. The actual stats, there's
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: a larger, I briefly mentioned the Joliti study, 2022. She
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: found 15% versus 23, I think. So 23% of women
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: revealed some form of sexual assault. 15% of men. Pretty close.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: But still, she also was the one that noticed that
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: they're losing a lot of male respondents who likely do
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: have an experience to talk about because men take a
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: while to be able to talk about these things. So
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: she says, or they say, it is an undercount. So
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: what are other studies? There's another study. Let's see. Let's
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: go through. Turchik, 2012. Using a 54-item behaviorally specific instrument,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: found 17.1% of college men had been raped since age 16.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: And that's rape, rape. Completed penetration obtained by force, restraint, weapons,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: or being drugged or drunk. And that means like being
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: administered and being incapacitated. 17%, guys. That's raped, raped. Like
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: the actual sexual assault was something like 40%. And these
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: are the numbers they don't talk about. You notice how
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: they don't talk about these? Now let's look at fraternity.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: The fraternity numbers. Just a second. I need to pull
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: it up. All right. The one study that I found
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: that asked fraternity men, what rate, what rate do you
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: experience sexual victimization found the same rate feminist site for women?
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell they're doing in fraternities,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: but you know, send your sons high chance. He'll get raped.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: What are these anyway? I know what they're doing. They're
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: doing ketamine and they're allowing Jane Doe into their fricking parties.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: So Lutke et al., 2021, random sample of fraternity members, 27.5
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: reported sexual assault victimization since entering college, 13.7% penetrative. So
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: exactly the same numbers as the feminists like to cite
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: for women. And I actually trust these numbers better because
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: men do not disclose this stuff. I don't think there's
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: a man on earth who looks at a question like
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: that and feels excitement over being seen. And yet they
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: did report this stuff. And look at the prevalence. And
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: look at what they're not talking about in all of
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: this consent culture and rape culture. They're not talking about
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: women's need to get men's consent, to respect men's consent,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: to concern themselves with men's feelings when it comes to sex. None, nowhere.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: That's why it's all bullshit. It is bullshit legally, it's
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: bullshit socially, it's bullshit morally. These women have no moral platform,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: nothing to stand on.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Nothing.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Nothing. And until they acknowledge the rate at which women
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: are sexually abusing men in the general population, in colleges
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: and apparently in fraternities, they should shut up. All of them.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Because all they're doing is rank hypocrisy. And I know
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: that this may not resonate with men, but what really
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: galls me about all of this is they're making it
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: worse for men who have consensual sexual encounters with women, yes,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: because they could potentially be falsely accused, but they're also
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: making it easier for sexual predators, potentially like Jane Doe,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: to force men to have sex with them, to force
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: men to continue sexual contact with them, which is incidentally
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: the thing that made her think that she was raped.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: When the fraternity president, after their powwow or after their meetings,
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: decided she should not come to the next party, perhaps
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: because You know, the one dude who didn't remember her having,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: she said, oh, you may not remember this, but we
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: sort of did something sexual. At the time, I knew
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: you were sort of incapacitated, so I know you might
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: not remember. And she still did it. That one thing.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: And then also the dude who's like, I think she,
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: or I believe, or I guess it's probably not an
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: I believe or I think situation. If you wake up
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: and you realize you've been sodomized. And maybe the fraternity
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: president is like, actually did the right thing and said, hey,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: shops closed, lady, right? You can't keep your hands to yourself.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: You have a very vague understanding of the consent of
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: your partners. Maybe you shouldn't have access to the young
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: men in the fraternity anymore. And he did the right thing.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: And he's part of the civil suit. It's unbelievable. And
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: this is the hill that women are dying on. Of course,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: they're not going to die on it. They're going to
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: keep going on their merry way, ignoring their culpability and
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: their responsibility for half of rape culture, or half or more,
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: since I'm pretty sure that men don't deny the fact
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: that men do indeed rape. But these women do. And
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: they're ignoring a hell of a lot of statistics. And
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: how are you ever going to solve the problem? She's
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: talking about how consent culture hasn't solved the problem of
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: sexual assault on college campuses. Well, first of all, even
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: if you got all men to abide by your frankly
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: quantum concept of consent, it's both consent and not consent
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: until you open up the rape box, right? Like even
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: if you get men to adhere to that perfectly, You
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: guys are still raping. You women are still raping. You
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: women are still engaging in sexual assault of men. So
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: how are you going to solve the rape culture that
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: you're creating, Jane Doe? I mean, this becomes actually hilarious,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: isn't it? Like they all call themselves Jane Doe, completely
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: ignoring the fact that she sounds herself like a sexual assaulter.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: And then they're like, oh, we'll never get rid of
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: rape culture. Yeah, because you perpetrate it.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: They don't want to get rid of it.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: All of you. They would get rid of a huge
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: amount of griffins.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: They need it to exist so they can keep on grifting.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: But also, yeah, they have no interest in solving the problem.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: They have no interest in it. They have only interest
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: in pretending there is a problem where there isn't so
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: they can be needed. Well, you need me. Buy my
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: new book. Take my class. You know, vote for me, whatever.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: I'll fix it. I'll address it. And of course they
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: never do because they can't because there's nothing to address.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, or if there was going to be a
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: way to address it, it would require a change that
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: they're not prepared to make. So they won't do it.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: They're just going to.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: They have to acknowledge their own inability and own failures
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: of getting consent. Yeah, culpability when it comes to men's consent. Like,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: how the hell do you, how the hell does 27,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: or so is it 27? I think it was 27.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: How the hell does 27% of fraternity members report sexual
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: assault victimization? What the hell is that? Like, right there,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: maybe parents should tell their sons not to go to fraternities. Like, what?
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: You just turn your sons into some kind of, like,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: sex traffic buffet for the freaking female co-eds? Ew. Anyway,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: it's not just you in terms of disgust. It's just like,
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: come on, have a little bit of a thought to
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: protecting your sons. Anyway, let's keep going. All right.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to the time code where she introduces
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: the guests. So let's go.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: And important feminist thinkers of our time. And she just
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: so happens to also be a professor at Cornell University.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: He's actually a assistant professor, but.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father,
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Like, I know that this is like some basic bitch shit,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: but remember guys, 2.24 million subscribers. This video got 1,614,000
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: plus views. So I'm afraid that if we're going to
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: respond to what's really going on, we got to respond
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: to basic bitch shit.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: Kate, you are a professor at Cornell. What does it
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: feel like to be on campus right now?
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: The mood is pretty grim. I think students are incredibly
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: upset and it's really all anyone can talk about.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: By students, she means women on campuses.
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: But I will say this. I had this moment where
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: we were all walking down to Hope Plaza. where the
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: rally was on Monday to support Jane Doe. And it
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: really felt like an inspiring moment of hope to have
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: so many students and faculty and staff members coming together.
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: It was thousands of people. And yeah, we turned out
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: for her, which was so great.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Okay. So they did a rally at Cornell organized by
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Cornell University to support Jane Doe. There was nobody that
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: was closer to under that could understand what happened that
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: day than the people at Cornell. And they are still
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: acting like that didn't happen. I'm just, I just want
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: you to understand the people closest to the case. Don't
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: care about the facts of the case. They are ignoring them.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: They are just going to support the woman without question, regardless.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: And I know that they know what happened. They know
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: the truth. They don't care. I'm just letting you know.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: They don't care about the truth. All right, I got
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: a super chat from Zerang. He gives us $ 10 and says,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: men need to understand that if they're going to go
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: the passport route, the point is finding a place that
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: is conducive to their growth and well-being, knowing that this
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: mess is spreading, not ass tourism. Yeah, thank you for that.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: And Rude Boy 5 gave us $ 20. Thank you, Rude Boy.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: And says, also, what this does is it's continuously knocking
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: off men as potential runners for office to even attempt
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: to make any changes in law if they're convicted. Therefore,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: we will continue to see more and more women running
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: for offices. Yeah, it's all an opportunity to do that.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Richard B. Ayer gives us $ 5 Super Chow and says,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: I have a scientific proposal to determine whether the seven
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: are truly guilty or innocent. We will need the larger
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: scales to see if they weigh more than a duck. Yeah, yeah,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: I get it. The witch trials thing. Okay. All right.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Let's keep going. Yeah. Passport bros, you're not safe. This
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: is everywhere. You're just going to have to stay and
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: help us change things. I don't know what else to do.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, even if you completely avoid women, it won't
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: protect you from false allegations. You guys know that, right?
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: There are men who don't interact with women that get
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: falsely accused. Remember Mark Pearson? It doesn't matter. You just
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: have to fight it head on. If they take it
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: head on, that's all you can do.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to point something out. Oh, man. I
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: think I've forgotten it. God damn it.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: It was, I know. Isn't that so irritating? It's like
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: it just floats away. Like, why are you doing that thought?
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: Why do you do present yourself and then just decide
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: to fuck off? All right, let's just do some more.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: You have written before, there's a feeling at times that
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: protesting sexual assault on campus is a lost cause. And
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of people do feel that in
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: general sometimes with protesting. Like, is this actually going to
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: make a difference? Does this moment in particular feel any different?
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: It does feel different to me.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: It feels. .
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: Like there has been a kind of simmering rage, frankly,
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: on behalf of women that a lot of women were
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: feeling and also people who just care a lot about women.
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: And this has crystallized something and it's become something much bigger.
• 59:04
  Speaker 6: It has a lot of momentum. It's this sense that
• 59:07
  Speaker 6: women and girls are owed safety of a kind that
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: we don't currently have.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: 27%, 27.5% of frat fraternity members report sexual assault. Who
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: is owed safety? Women, Alison. What?
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Damn your numbers, women. Damn them.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, but that's where they're landing every time.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: There was literally a massive rally of, according to her,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: thousands of people, all of them going to Cornell. And
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: it wasn't just women. There were a lot of men
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: there too, apparently. If this is all to be believed,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: which I don't think is, I think that that's not
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: a stretch at all. All it means is they don't
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: care about the truth. They don't. Like this, there is no,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: like there is, of all the cases we've covered, of
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: women who have had like sex, they regret it and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: then later on decided they were going to accuse the guy.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: In many of those cases, every other case, it's been
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: relatively straightforward and you could even, if you were somebody
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: who didn't look very closely at the case at all,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: you could even make the argument that you could understand
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: how someone could come to the conclusion that the man
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: was guilty, even though they'd be wrong completely because they
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: weren't looking at the facts. In this case, this woman
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: admitted to everything. Like basically said, yeah, I did that. Yeah,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: fuck it, man. I'm sexually liberated. She literally said, I
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: am sexually liberated modern woman. Hear me roar and snort
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: ketamine off a guy's dick. I'm going to do it.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: I don't care. And yet everyone still believes she's a victim.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: That means there is no such thing as a woman
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: who is not a victim that doesn't exist, just like
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: consent doesn't exist. And these people are just going to
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: push it all the way to the end. I mean,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: I don't like I'm I have no other ways to
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: look at this other than the truth doesn't matter. That
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter at all. And due process doesn't matter. Male
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: victims don't matter. In fact, the fact that I guess
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: like if men complained more, we might listen. But because
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: men are generally more resilient to adversity than women, they're
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: less likely to complain. Therefore, they're not victims. Therefore, we
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: don't have to care.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Can I actually speak to that?
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: I looked at the aftermath of these kinds of sexual assaults.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: And the, what, what they found, um, any impact. Okay.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: So in terms of, we look at, uh, rape and
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: in this context with male victims, it is being penetrated.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: So that one.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Cornell fraternity, according.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: To his report.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: By the woman.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: And, um, that would be rape. Okay, and then the
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: other one would be, well, depending on what she did
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: with his penis, made to penetrate. If she took it
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: in her mouth or whatever else that she did.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she fellatioed him without him knowing that she was
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: doing it.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Or if she had climbed on top of him and
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: had penetrative sex with him, that would be made to penetrate. Yeah.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: So any impact from the perpetrator's violence... For rape only
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: male victims, it's 62.7%. For made to penetrate only, which
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: has a majority of female victimizers, it's 59.8%. So in
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: terms of impact of the perpetrators violence, and this is
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: probably going to astound people, it's roughly equal between a
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: man being raped, which is majority male perpetrators and a
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: man being raped by a woman, which is, you know,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: of course, majority female perpetrators. So I, and, And also,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: the other thing that is an issue, that's impact from
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: any violence. That doesn't necessarily mean physical injury. It could
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: also mean psychological problems. Now, in terms of being raped,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: men report about one in four rape victims are physically injured.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: That's for men. So that would be the majority male version. Okay,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: let me just put it this way. When men are
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: raped by men, one in four report injuries, whereas one
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: in 12 report injuries when they're raped by women. So,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: rape by men is physically more damaging, right? But that
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: makes sense because it's a man.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: But here's the interesting thing. Afterwards, men who are raped
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: by men or sexually assaulted by men report two out
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: of 11 tracked health issues. Men who are raped by
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: women report six out of 11. So for whatever reason,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: men who are raped by women are more likely to
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: experience adverse health issues. I couldn't tell you why. I mean,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: I have some conjecture, I have some theories as to
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: why that would be, but apparently the folk wisdom that
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: it's worse For men to be sexually assaulted by men,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: not true, at least in terms of health outcomes.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: And that's probably going to blow a lot of minds.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: And it actually brings to mind a story that I
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: heard from a guy who I believe he was in
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: a fraternity and one of his brothers was raped by
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: a woman and he was never the same again and
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: ended up dropping out and they never heard from him again.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: So it's like this is something like this is serious.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: This has a serious and it has there are problems
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: with it. So it's not just this shouldn't be like
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: a free for all for women sexually to be just
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: be allowed to rape men. And if you want to
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: look at it in terms of actual negative consequences, they're
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: there when women rape men.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: I can go into more statistics. I won't belabor it,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: but there are. significant consequences greatest greater drug use greater
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: suicide suicide mental health issues disturbance when it comes to
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: work and education right so this is not a this
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: is not something it's like it's it's not a free
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: action and honestly i don't understand where did we take
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: this turn where we stop regarding men's autonomy when it
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: comes to women's sexual desire is as something that we
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: should actually pay attention to or consider. Like, it feels
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: like it's a really dark turn and it's probably something
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: we shouldn't have done. You know, I don't know where,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: where the cultural council came together to decide on that one,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: but we should reconsider that because I think there's a
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: lot of bad stuff that's flown out, come, come from
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: just saying, Oh, Hey, it's a woman. She enjoyed it.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: You know, I think there's some problems with that. We
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: might want to go back, reconsider that one. All right,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: do you want to continue?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: All right, well, I got more super chats, and then
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: I'll continue. Binary Eclipse gives us $ 10 Australian and says,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: the more time goes on, the more I think we
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: should take inspiration from the Bronze Age to solve our problems.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Xerax gives us $ 5 and says, we could have single-sex colleges,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: but they'd later force the male colleges to be co-ed.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: By the way, I heard they're closing all male fraternities
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: at Cornell. And then he said, correction, they're banning all
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: Cornell frat parties, according to Debra So. Yeah, and the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: thing is about the co-ed stuff or like the single
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: sex colleges, they're not going to do that because they
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: don't want men. They don't want men to have their
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: own spaces. They literally say it in this conversation. But
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: we're going to get to that. So let's keep going.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: And so it feels like this is the moment to
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 6: really demand better for ourselves, for our daughters, for our sisters,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 6: for our friends.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: Obviously, we talk about the pros and cons of social media, right?
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: And I feel like we are actively watching one of
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: the pros, and it's to be able to see how
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: many people are coming forward and speaking and supporting, which
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: has been amazing. But in your opinion, why do you
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: think this particular case has garnered support? so much national attention.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 6: This case being an alleged gang rape is somewhat more salacious.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 6: People feel certain things like disgust at the level of
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: their visceral reaction to the case. It seems kind of
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: out there. And so that can lead to more moral outrage,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 6: even though we should be equally outraged for every victim
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 6: who comes forward.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: I think the headlines are so.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: Every victim we should be equally.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: No she doesn't she doesn't mean she doesn't mean men
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: allison don't don't even don't even go there she doesn't
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: mean men she means women of course that's it but
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: men cannot by definition they cannot be victims according to
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: miss man over here it's funny that's her last name
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: is man Um, but yeah, no, she does not mean
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: male victims. I know that's what you want to say.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: I know your spur of brain is like, what about
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: the men? They don't care about the men. The men
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: are not people. They can't be victims. Okay. This is
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: just women, women and the non-binaries, which is basically also women. Okay.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: Oh, buzzy for people. Seven plus men and, you know,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: speculating of 50 plus people. in a group chat, there's
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: a story that people, unfortunately, on social media are clinging
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: to that's like interesting and clickbaity. But this was a
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: woman's reality. And also, even if it was just one man,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: that's enough to have a story be talked about. And
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: so I agree. I think it's important to highlight the
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: injustice is just as strong, whether it was seven, whether
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: it was one, however many assaults I want to.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Pause it there for a second. I just want to
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: remind everybody to call her daddy. The podcast normally has
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: on famous women who have sex with lots of men.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Often with orgies as well. And I would argue that
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: if Jane Doe did not end up making a rape allegation,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: she could have been on this podcast dishing on this
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: particular experience. And it would be a completely different light.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: And it's only because she actually decided two years later...
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: that she was actually raped, or however long, because this
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: happened in 2024, okay?
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: Well, she apparently decided. She apparently decided in her testimony,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: but unfortunately, how she defines rape wasn't consistent with law.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Right, I understand that. I understand that, but my point is,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: if she did not change her mind about what happened,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: she would be on this podcast, and it would be
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: a conversation about the exact same event, but it would
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: have been a completely different tone because it would have
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: been like, oh my God, girl, spill the tea on that.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: What do their penises look like? Like, this is what
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Call Her Daddy is about most of the time. It's
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: like women talking about sex. That's what it is. It's women,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: like literally, the female podcast is... like all like about
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: sex and it's all, it's all like very, you know, um,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: explicit and, and sexual all the time. Meanwhile, the number
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: one male podcast, Joe Rogan is about all kinds of
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: different things. Isn't that funny? Isn't that interesting? Women only
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: talk about sex. That's basically it. Sex and feminism and
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: how women are oppressed men. It's like, you know, uh,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: hunting it's weightlifting, it's MMA, it's fucking philosophy. It's all
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: over the place. I'm not saying that to gas up men.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's interesting. And especially because Alex Cooper
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: here has to, or at least she's decided, she's going
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: to make this about this particular orgy was a bad
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: orgy because it was actually a gang rape. The line
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: between orgy and gang rape is very fuzzy. It's all
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: depending on what the woman thinks, actually. I'm serious, though.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: That's what we are.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: What her friends think.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: No, and what her friends think after she says what
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: she thinks. So.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: And rape is assault and rape.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 6: That's exactly right. And so part of what is going
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 6: on here is people feel particularly disgusted towards the frat brothers,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: which I think makes sense. But that drives a more
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 6: heightened morally outraged reaction. And I think that is the
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 6: right reaction. I share it completely if what Jane Doe
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 6: alleges in her lawsuit is true. And for the record,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: I believe her.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: She's really hedging hard. I hope you get sued. I
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: hope everybody involved in this gets sued by the Cornell
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: seven or somebody, but it probably won't happen for slander or.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: Libel, whichever. It won't happen.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: No, it probably won't happen, but I wish, I wish
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: it would.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: It'd be nice, but it's not going to happen.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: Disgusting. And again, how does this, how does this help
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: the course of justice? Like if this is some horrible,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: shameful thing that happened to her, Why does this throwing
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: this all around, getting your view count up and your
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: YouTube advertising revenue in on this, how does this help that?
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: On Call Her Daddy, ultimately, it's going to be used
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: to drive women to vote for people who support whatever
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: cause Alex Cooper thinks matters. Remember, Alex Cooper had Kamala
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: Harris on in 2024. So it's not these things are
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: not just entertainment. This is propaganda aimed at women and
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: they eat it up and it's on purpose. Alex Cooper
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: used to work with Barstool Sports. He was friends with
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: or worked with. What's his name? The guy who runs that.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: And so it's a big, it's a media thing. Like
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: she's not some woman who randomly decided she was going
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: to start a podcast. She's totally backed by like very
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: rich people. Okay. And like Dave Portnoy, that was his name.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: And even though they had a little bit of a
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: falling out, it doesn't matter. So you could, yeah, I mean, sure.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: She's not helping law, but like who cares about law, Allison?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: We got to push feminism. That's what we got to do.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: And we need women to do that. Oh, here we go. 2.24
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: million of them. And look, I hear, I just want
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: to make this also as an aside point. I have
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: seen a lot of people talking about the reaction to
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: the Cornell seven. And I have noticed, and this is
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: also with the Shane Gillis thing that happened where he
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: like made some jokes about women at the gym and
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: women got all fucking upset. I noticed that everyone who's
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: responding to this in a critical way is saying feminists
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: are doing this thing. I'm sorry, guys. It's women doing
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: this thing. You could say it's feminists and maybe most
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: of them are feminists, but I'm not hearing any of
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: these women saying that they're doing this because of feminism.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: They're doing this because they're women. And it's women that
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: are backing this up. It's women.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: You know, when I read the exchange that she had
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: with that one guy that, I mean, it looks like
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: based on that exchange that she sexually assaulted him. And
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: all of the, and the reason why I've read this
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: so many times is that I've got, I've had women
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: on Twitter come at me and be like, Oh, look
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: at this. It's proof. It's proof. And I'm like, okay.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: So this guy, she says, she texts this guy out
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: of the blue and says, Hey, you might not remember.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: But I had your dick in my mouth. Or I
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: noted ketamine. Might not remember.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Well, that might have been a different dick with the ketamine.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: Might have been a different dick. There were a lot
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: of dicks, Allison. There were a lot of dicks involved. And,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: you know, I guess when you're really close to them,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: you can't tell them apart. Yeah.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: You can't really tell. But in this case, she did
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: because she knew it was a dick attached to a
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: guy who did not look like he had a 100%
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: probability of remembering what happened. And so she texts him
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: and he says, I know you might not remember this,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: but I was, you know, doing something with you, sexual.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: And he responds with, oh, no, I didn't actually remember.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: I hope you're okay or something.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: Sometimes men are just, it's adorable at the same time
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: as it's horrifying. Okay.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't think men think that they have a claim.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: To feel like victimized. That's the, that's the thing. So, so,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: and so what they do is they just kind of
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: shrug it off and they get on with it. And yeah,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: there might be, you know, I know that you've talked
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: about the negative effects of that, but men are just
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: not allowed to see themselves as victims of women. So
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: they just don't. And, and I think in a way
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: it makes them stronger for it in some ways, but, um,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: but that's why it also makes them.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: More easy to destroy. I'm going to explain how. Yeah.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, because I don't know if someone texted me
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: out of the blue and said, hey, you may not
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: remember me doing that, you know, me doing things to
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: your naked body while you seem like you were out.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: I would be like, well, hold up. Wait, what? I
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: just had a little moment of what? But no, he's like,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: I don't remember it at all. I hope you're OK
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: or something. And then she starts her later on. She
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: starts the whole going to accuse these men of something.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: And she texts him back or he texts her. And
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: he has this whole long apologetic text. And the women
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: show me this and say, he apologized. That means he
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: did it. And I'm like reading this text. And what
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: he's apologizing for is being so out of it, basically unconscious.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: So he wasn't able to shut it down. So he
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: wasn't able to stop her having... engaging sexually with him
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: because he was probably unconscious, right? Or just so incapacitated,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: he might as well have been. And he's apologizing to
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: her for not preventing her from sexually assaulting him. And
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: what I noticed and what apparently the women who sent
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: me this stuff is like some kind of smoking gun didn't,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: is that he maintained throughout all of this that he
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: was unconscious. So she's coming at him with an accusation
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: and he's saying, I'm sorry, I was unconscious that I
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: couldn't stop it. Well, he has not changed his entire story.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: And then they're showing me this and saying, oh, it's proof.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, it isn't. It's proof of a man
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: being a man. That's it. Men take responsibility too much. Right.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: If you're a guy and that ever happens to you,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: you got my permission. If a woman texts you out
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: of the blue and says, hey, you might not remember this,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: but I was having you have my permission to say,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: hold up, wait. You did something to me while I
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: was incapacitated.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: Why you might want to do that? Because the next
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: move that she might make is to accuse you of
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: sexually assaulting her despite the fact that you were the
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: one who was incapacitated. So maybe just get it on
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: the record. So what you're saying is you had sex
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: with me while I was incapacitated. Just put it down
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: on the record. Just make sure that everything is clear
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: and understood. And then maybe, I don't know, I doubt
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: the process would stop rolling on, even though you've pointed
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: out that you were the one who was incapacitated. But
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: maybe somewhere, someone like me will notice that and be like, wait,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: hold up. What did that woman just confess to? But again,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: women sent this to me thinking it was a smoking gun.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: And yet it showed me a man who maintained his story.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: Text after text after text. Sorry, I was unconscious. I
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: couldn't stop it. No, I don't remember what you did
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: because I was unconscious. Anyway, it's and again, here we are.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: These two, these two women. ignoring so much about this story.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: All right, let's keep going.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: All right. So let me just make sure I didn't
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: miss any of the super chats. All right, let's keep going.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: And so I do want to just say, let's extend
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 6: that out in the way that I think the hashtag
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 6: I am Jane Doe is doing precisely that.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: I want to get a little bit more insight.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: So to translate, she's saying, let's take this one incident
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: involving this one woman and let's make this about all
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: women because every tragedy every uh bit of news media
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: all of it's an opportunity to expand feminism that's what
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: that's that's what that was that today of and of
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: course women will eat it up and they'll do it
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: because they're fucking retarded.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: The essentially the effects of sexual assault especially on these
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: campuses and what the outcome is for the victim rather
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: the perpetrator so prior to this case How aware were
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 4: you of sexual violence at Cornell?
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: I was very aware of it. And this is in
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 6: fact why I began working on misogyny because I came
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 6: to Cornell as an assistant.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: I wish I can get a job working on misogyny.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: Can you?
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: That's like, that is literally a forever paycheck. I'm going
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: to do this thing that cannot be done. I'm going
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: to fix anger. That's my, I'm going to fix hatred.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: I'm going to cure it. Pay me.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 6: Assistant professor in 2013. I'm practically a lifer at this point.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: And I immediately had young women in my office talking
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 6: to me about sexual assault. And look, I was aware
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 6: of the abstract statistics which say this is unfortunately very,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 6: very common, that roughly a quarter of female undergraduates will
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: be subject to sexual assault during their four years in college,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 6: which is really shocking.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: One force that, again, never dies.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 6: Shouldn't lose our sense of shock that this is happening.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 6: But as you say, it's not surprising. We know this
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 6: is happening. But it's not shocking.
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  Speaker 2: It's not shocking that it's likely that men experience that,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: if not more.
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  Speaker 1: Impossible, Alison. It's impossible. No, men can't experience that. Because
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: we live under patriarchy. Even if men do experience that,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: it's their fault. And there's no such thing as victim
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: blaming when you're talking about men. So I'm just, I'm
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: just remind you that, that they like use rhetoric to
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: lay out the entire battlefield and they're making us all
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: play on that battlefield. And I'm saying, let's just not play.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: Cause I mean, I know.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: Where this is.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: Well, we're not, I know, I know, but I'm saying
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: like every counter argument that would make sense is already
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: being precluded from being a part of the conversation so
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: if you say well there are male like she said
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: you know it's a it's a good thing that we're
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: finally listening to victims but they're not because they're siding
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: with a woman who i'm gonna just say was not
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: a victim she chose to do that She engaged in
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: the activity. She gave consent. And the men tried to
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: follow the consent rules to the best of their ability
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: with even some of them saying, oh, well, you don't
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: want to. OK, I'm going to go and do something
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: else because the men were like, well, I don't want
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: to get in trouble. And I understand that the consent
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: is supposed to work like this. And they followed those rules.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: And yet their concerns and their considerations are just not
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: even a part of the conversation at all. And hers, well,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: we're going to adapt to whatever she feels in the moment.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: So she gives us the conclusion. We're going to make
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: the facts wrap around said conclusion. What are your conclusions? Oh,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: you were raped now? Okay, then yeah, you were raped.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: Totally raped. Those guys should be hung by their testicles
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: in the village square. And no one is allowed to
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: question it because that's the battlefield we're operating on. Everything
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: is at the behest of whatever the woman feels in
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: the moment. All the authorities are going to get behind that.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: All of the women that are watching this that don't
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: follow this shit, or don't care to because they've already
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: made up their mind, they're just going to follow that
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: as well. So, that's where we are. Like, it's just...
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: That's just... I don't know what else to do. I mean, like,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: even people who I would say would be reasonable about this,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: they still have... Certain obstacles that they're not willing to
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: get past, which is, you know, that this could be,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: this affects men and like, oh, whatever. So it's, I
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: don't know. It's frustrating. It is. It's frustrating, but predictable.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: Okay. I'm going to throw my feelings into the room.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: I feel like we are doing something and bringing up
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: the conversation that they won't have. Even if it's small
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: and we don't get a huge reach, at least somebody
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: is talking about the truth of the case, the facts
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: of the case, and also the poking holes in their
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: lies about campus rape culture and who is culpable for it.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: Because if there is one, okay, if there is one,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: women are probably, if not half the problem, the primary
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: driver of it. Yeah, they probably are. I say that
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: because women do not face consequences. It's like when you
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: have gang activity and women are less likely to go
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: to jail, who ends up doing a lot of illegal stuff?
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: It's women because they will get a slap on the wrist.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: Who ends up being the biggest drivers for this kind
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: of sordid activity on college campuses? The ones who will
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: not get called out for it. Okay?
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: Like the ones who don't get the consent lectures, who
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: aren't told to take responsibility for their sexual partners. That's women.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: And they will not take responsibility for that. So everything
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: they talk about is tainted by that fact. This has
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with equality. If it did, the first
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: thing out of these women's mouths would be like, if
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: we're going to deal, if we're going to tackle the
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: sexual assaults and sexual... predation problem on college campuses, we
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: need to start talking about male victims and female perpetrators.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: If they were serious people, that would be out of
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: their mouths. Because you cannot solve a problem without looking
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: at the whole problem. You're going to ignore half of it.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: But that's not what it's about. It's not about solving
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: the campus sexual assault problem, which I'm not sure is really,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: I think what they're really measuring is just Regret and
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: some very loose definitions of what sexual assault is. But
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: if you were genuinely going to address the problem, you
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: would address all of it, not just your cherry-picked part.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: So this can't be about addressing the problem. It has
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: to be about hating on men again. Yep.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: All right. That is it. Okay, so I got some
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: super chows and a lot of super chow stuff. Thanks, guys.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Dylan gives us $ 5 and says,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: I think a long time ago I heard of a
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: female on male rape case where the woman used a
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: Q-tip inserted into the penis to keep the penis up. Yeah,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: Allison talked about it. Enough to penetrate while the man
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: was knocked out. I can't remember what the case was called,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: but maybe y'all know perhaps I remember it because I'd
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: imagined that it would have caused injury to the man,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: yet the rapist was a woman, so no one cared. Yeah,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: and it's also a story that only people who have
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: done the work to learn exists know about.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was one of those threads where they asked,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: have you experienced this? It was one of those... Back
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: when Reddit wasn't as bad as it is now, and
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: it was like this... Somebody asked, if you're a man,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: have you ever experienced sexual assault? And then... I don't know,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: like 3000 replies later, people were like, wow, I didn't
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: realize that this was so common. And one of the
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: testimonials was that. And then I learned later that this
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: is actually a modus operandi for sexual, like female sexual
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: assaulters and what she did was she inserted the q-tip
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: so it would the penis would be slightly rigid then
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: mounted him and because of the friction you know that
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: there's an involuntary response you start to create erection and
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: And the process of having sex with him shredded the
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: inside of his urethra, the Q-tip did. And then he,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: since then, he has not been able to urinate without pain.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: And he probably can't have kids. So, you know, like
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: female on male rape, not necessarily, you know, just a
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: walk in the park or something men should, you know,
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: have a thank you card aisle for to, you know,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: give thanks. Some of it's pretty brutal. And disgusting. I'd
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: imagine that the one Cornell guy experienced that.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: Possibly.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: Well, possibly, like allegedly, according to him. But yeah, rapists
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: like to push boundaries and they like to hurt people.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: And they don't care about your experience or your health
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: or well-being. That's sort of what makes them rapists. And
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: that's no different for women. Okay, for female rapists.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: Next super chow from Richard B. Ayer. He gives us
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: $ 5 and says, I wonder what this will do for
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: the male enrollment rate at Cornell in the future. Perhaps
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: all post-high school education for men everywhere except for trade schools. Also,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: this situation is somewhat parallel to what is being stirred
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: up on social media concerning Ocean Springs, Mississippi and the
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: demise of Nolan Wells. There are all kinds of social
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: media detectives, conspiracy theorists, who are basically accusing Nolan's friends
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: of being responsible for his demise while being very vague. However,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: they are riling up the Pitchforks and Torches mob to
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: take some kind of action even after the grand jury
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: found no evidence of foul play and returned with no
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: cause to indict anyone at all. Also, two separate autopsies
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: found no evidence of foul play either. However, the mob
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: has their bloodlust in flame right now and might get
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: to the point where nothing will stop them from taking
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: kinetic action. Well, they're probably just going to bitch online
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: like everybody else does. Xeranks gives us $ 10 and says,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: Is it inconvenient to mention that women are the majority
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: on college university campuses have been since the late 1970s,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: early 80s, and it's even more now. That would make
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: who is responsible for the Lin 5 stat. Oh, oh,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: I yeah one in five steps sorry um yeah again
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: you're applying logic here nobody cares they just say women
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: are victims and men if women are victims men must
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: be perpetrators don't you guys understand that's how this works
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: the truth does not matter there's only the narrative and
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: so we are getting a dose of the narrative right now.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's nice to know what the truth is.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: It's nice to know that most colleges are dominated by
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: women and they're getting like more degrees. And so they're in,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: but the women are like, Well, that's not possible. Why not? Well,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: because women are still getting raped on college campuses. Well,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: if they're getting raped on college campuses, then men must
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: be going to college because that's the only way that
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: could happen. Yes, exactly. Okay, then. We're not even going
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: to look into the stats. We have determined that the
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: fact that there is this false stat of women being
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: raped on college campuses that exists, then that means that
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: there are men on college campuses doing it. Therefore, men
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: are going to college. I mean, that's, I know, I know.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: It makes no sense. But that's the way it is.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: That's the way it is. All right.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: Are we done with the intro of this woman? Can
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: we go to my five selection?
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: Like the selection of the crazy-ass crap they talk about?
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's all crazy. It's crazy from start to finish. Yeah,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: It's all crazy. I tried to find the very best
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: and most exquisite nuggets of crazy for you guys. All right.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: Here we go.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 6: From Marilyn Frye, this classic feminist quote that you will
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 6: see all over the place saying straight men in groups,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 6: they are having sex with women, but they actually want
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 6: the love and admiration and everything else from male peers.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 6: They're actually more oriented in a funny way towards performing
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 6: their masculinity for their male peers.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: So she's saying that when men gang, rape women are
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: doing it to make other men to gain points with
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: other men.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: Gangbang, isn't it?
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when they do it, they're like, hey guys, look
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: at me, I'm gangbanging, what do you think? And they're like, dude, awesome,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: high fives all around.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 6: Irredeemably entitled. They acted like they were utterly entitled to
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 6: take what they wanted from her, not because I think
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 6: they were all that interested in her as a human being,
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: but because they wanted to show off to each other
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 6: and get points in an intramasculine hierarchy.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. All right. So
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: I think you put this up. Maybe not. But there
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: is a text where I believe it was the one
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: who she knew had a high probability of the man
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: who she knew had a high probability of not remembering
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: the sexual act she performed on him the next day.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: And he talked about how they were getting shit. like
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: the men who were even tangentially involved in this, their
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: reputation was getting dragged through the mud. And he hoped
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: that she wasn't experiencing what they were experiencing, even though
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: he had no culpability in this because he was probably
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: incapacitated or unconscious and his participation was completely involuntary. He
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: was being dragged through the mud. So where is this law? Like,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: where are they being like cheered? for this behavior. Where?
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: Where is this happening? It doesn't even sound like it
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: was happening with their own fraternity or the people who
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: heard about it, that they weren't getting cheered for it.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: In fact, I'm pretty sure they probably were seen as
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: a bunch of predators, which is stigma, my dear. And
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: this is the thing that men have to face when
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: they do stuff like this. that the switch flips and
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: they become predators and they become seen as the worst
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: of the worst. And not just that, but it's also
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: like it's very seedy and degenerate. So it doesn't sound
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: like they were getting a lot of accolades for it, right?
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe in the moment these guys were drugged, like they
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: weren't thinking correctly. And they found this, you know, like
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: there's a couple of them who were like also not
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: thinking correctly and thinking that this was the best thing ever.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: But it sounds like when cooler heads prevailed, they didn't
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: get anything out of this. Any kind of masculinity points.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: And furthermore, how come men are now getting masculinity points
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: from sexual revolution degeneracy? Like, I remember in the past, well,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: I don't remember because I was born in the 70s,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: the late 70s, so it was post the sexual revolution.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: But wasn't in the past, like, men controlling women's sexuality? Like,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: wasn't that the thing that we all had a revolution against?
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: You know, and at that time, men who did the
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: things like this were not looked kindly upon. They were
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: seen as degenerate and destructive and predatory, like they're seen now, basically,
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: but even more so. And so we went from there,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: the men patriarchy enforcing these chaste norms on pretty much everyone,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: including men. I've never seen a society that punishes sexuality,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: that punishes men less for things like adultery than women.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: We talk about stoning in the Middle East, but they
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: don't tell you that men are being stoned too. And
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: more often. They don't tell it because it's not good
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: to the narrative. But anyway, so these societies, these sexually
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: conservative societies, which are patriarchal, are establishing all of these
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: standards that both men and women have to live up
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: to of chastity and behavioral standards of not being a degenerate.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: And yet now it's also patriarchy that since post-sexual revolution,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: men laud each other for having sex with women, right?
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: But there's this new point scoring system that men partake in. Well, which, like,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: at what point do women just what am I talking about?
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: At what point do women not be victims of something?
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: Because they were victims of all the sexual purity and
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: making everybody be respectful. And they're also victims of men
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: taking any kind of positive sense of self from this
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: thing that they asked for, that women asked for. We
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: want to be sexually liberated. We want to be able
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: to do anything. And then men are like, hey, that's cool.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'll judge myself by how well I service your
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: desires for sexual liberation ho ho ho and then women
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: are like oh my god that's why he's doing it
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: i'm a victim you're right brian it's just always that
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: yeah always lands on the same thing.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: Okay because that's the girl they just have They don't
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: have principles. They just have objectives. And they're just moving
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: towards them.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: How does she know anything that... Like, how do these
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: women think they know anything about men? Oh, I know.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: Standpoint theory. Sorry, the feminists closed that one off. Yeah.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: All right. Do you want to go to number two?
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: I think I already have it. Let's see.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: It's fine. 2, 22, 20. No, the next one is... Okay, 52.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: It's also amazing that she said that the men are entitled.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: They're the ones that felt entitled. It's insane, dude. Like,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: are you fucking kidding me?
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: Entitled to what?
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: Entitled to the woman. Entitled to the woman who went
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: and got and wanted the train ran. She was the
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: center of attention. Let's not let's not like mince words here.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: She was the main character in the orgy, I think.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 6: And doubling down on that really assumes the problem is
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 6: that these men simply do not know what they're doing
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 6: and that they want consent and they're just somehow bungling
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 6: the exercise. I find that highly questionable. I think in
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 6: many cases, unfortunately, the violation is the point. We have
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 6: a problem of not knowing what they're doing, but knowing
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 6: exactly what they're doing and wanting to do it anyway.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 6: because that is a way, again, of getting masculine prowess,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 6: of getting points in a masculine competition, and of kind
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 6: of celebrating your misogyny to other people who are watching
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 6: the exercise, to other men who are watching the exercise.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 6: So if this is not a problem of false beliefs,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 6: but really bad desires to violate women.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: What? Brian, did you know that when you have, you know,
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: do things with women. You're actually doing it to an
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: audience of men.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: Yes. I want them to know that I did that.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: That's really important to me. You know, it's, it's, it's,
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know if these people are aware of the
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: staggering amounts of projection going on because men don't really,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: men generally don't give a shit what other men or
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: anybody thinks about what they like to do or what
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: it is they do. They're not interested in sharing that
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: information and, Call Our Daddy is all about women coming
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: on and spilling the tea on all of their most
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: lurid experiences. And so everyone assumes that because women like
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: to do that, then men must do it too. And
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: they're also doing it for the approval and support and
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: kudos of other men. But they don't. Men are not
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: like that at all. I mean, if anything, women are
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: like that. So, but okay.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 6: Then we need a completely different approach than just telling
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 6: men what consent is and teaching them not to rape
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 6: in a way that is based on this, I think,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 6: false assumption that men are committed as a group to
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 6: ensuring this doesn't happen.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: So basically what you're.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: Saying- So now she's saying men all have to come together,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: become a brotherhood, which is really just a sisterhood with
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: men in it, the XY sisterhood. Because it's only, men
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: are allowed to organize, but only if they're doing it
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: for feminism. So.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: Can I, I just, okay. So she's saying that men
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: inherently are sexually assaulted. And I just want to point
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: out that this is directly from like Firestone and the
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: Red Stockings. This idea that everything that men do in
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: the context of women, protecting and providing for them anything sexual,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: is actually about gaining points in some kind of male game.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: So this is... They're pulling this directly from radical feminism.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: We're listening to mainstream radical feminism, guys. That's what this is.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: And then also this... brush towards biological essentialism that this
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: woman is giving. Do you notice? It's subtle, but she's
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: basically saying that all men rape and they have to
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: be taught otherwise. And I just want to remind you again, 27.5%
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: of men in fraternities report sexual assault, something like 13%
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: actual penetrative rape, right? And that's not doing it. That
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: is receiving it. That is being victims of it. And
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: then colleges, one survey, more recent survey, 15% of men
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: report sexual assault to like 23% of women. And the
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: authors of that survey say that that's also an undercount
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: for men because of what they found about men's response behavior, right?
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: So what the hell is she talking about? When first
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: of all, she says all men rape and need to
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: be taught otherwise, but also what the hell is she
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: talking about by gendering rape in the first place? This
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: is despicable. It's despicable. And yes, this is a lot
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: of fricking projection because exactly what you said, Brian, not this,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: this call, call her daddy is an example. of women
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: using their sexual behavior to score points with each other.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: And marriage is dying in the West because women have
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: turned it into some juvenile, infantile, immature, cringe-worthy game of
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: status-seeking among each other. Okay? So this is projection. It's
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: also chauvinism. It's also sexism. It's a biological essentialism, which
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: was directed towards any other group would be considered hate,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: much less the group that these women are most likely
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: like that. Like, honestly, these two women are part of
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: a group, a demographic that is the most likely to
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: sexually assault the demographic that they're throwing hate speech at
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: by was a hateful bio essentialism at. Wrap your minds
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: around that. And I know it's hard because, again, I
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: know men don't like to be victims.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: But I will do it. I will recognize the absolute
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: level of degenerate hypocrisy of this. That these women have
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: no right to speak. And with this bioessential, this gender essentialism,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: sexual essentialism, this gendering or this... Making rape out to
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: be something that men do in defiance of all the
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: statistics I've seen. All right, let's keep going. You think
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: if they were on the edge of equality, they'd be
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: aware of those statistics, but no. No, they're not.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: They're not interested in that. Okay.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 4: When men are like, what even is consent these days?
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: Like, what? No.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 4: Don't rape a woman.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: Literally things men never say. But OK, we're just going
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: to let we're just going to let you. There's another thing,
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: you know, you're dealing with people who are women like
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: feminine coded because they basically read the minds of everyone
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: they're trying to debunk and they just say what what
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: they think they would say. And then they shoot it down.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: It's like their favorite thing to do.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 4: Inappropriately touch a woman. Do not touch a woman if
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 4: she does not want to be touched. And so it
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 4: really has nothing to do with these men are not confused.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 4: It all has to do with the violation that they
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 4: are enjoying and the power that they are asserting over
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 4: this woman's body. And then actually the lack of education
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 4: also can be used as, well, I didn't.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: Well, what? Oh, OK.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 4: So we're not allowed to. And it's like they're hiding
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 4: behind the lack of education. No one is fucking confused
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 4: what rape is.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 6: They're not confused because it's not confusing. If there is
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 6: any question of whether or not someone wants to do this,
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 6: you don't do it. It's very simple.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: Okay. Any question of any, if anyone wants to do this.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: So when she had sex, when she engaged in the
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: sexual behavior, when she put this man's dick in her mouth,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: I think is what happened. knowing that he might not
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: remember it the next day, is that not respecting consent,
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: his consent?
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: No, that's women's liberation.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: Right, because the thing is that, again, when she engaged
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: in sexual behavior towards men who were incapacitated, was that
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: actually violating their consent. Of course not. It was sexual liberation.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: So they're just, why wouldn't men be confused about consent?
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: at that point I mean it's not confusing at all
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: basically whatever a woman wants to do to you is
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: you consent to it and whatever a woman wants you
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: to do to her well consent is variable she might
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: consent in the moment But if it results in some
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: outcome that she didn't want, then she withdraws the consent.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: And also her consent has to be enthusiastic. And by enthusiastic,
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: I mean that she has to be still enthusiastic about
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: her consent weeks, months, or years later. And then they
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: do all of this, like this confusing mess when it
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: comes to consent. And then they pin it on men
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: when men don't understand it. But here's the other thing.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: All right. Colleges are fucked right now. And they're going
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: to be even more fucked. Because while Brian says, oh,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: you don't know if we can do anything, they're on
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: the edge. I believe the actual enrollment of men in
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: undergraduate is like 42% now. And if that goes under 40,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: women will stop enrolling. Because women are in colleges for
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: the social life and for access to men. Men will just,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: men will happily go to a college that's 100% male.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: Women will not go to a college that doesn't have
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: men in it because men are the draw for them.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: So when that number goes below 40, colleges are really
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: going to feel it because they're going to start to
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: crater in terms of their enrollment with women as well
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: as men. So we're not that far off. Some kind
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: of sea change with this bullshit. And really, if you're
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: a man and you're thinking of going to college, first
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: of all, don't. And the reason why I say that
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: is not because I don't recognize that there's a benefit
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: in terms of income and employment to going to college.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: It's because there is also a huge detriment to going
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: to college. And that is dropping out. Don't assume you're
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: going to go to college. Go Just don't make that
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: an assumption. Don't make that your baseline assumption when you
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: graduate high school. Choose to go to college is what
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: I'm getting at. Choose it and make sure that you
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: are not going to be a dropout because that could
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: be worse than going in the first place. Make sure
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: that you're prepared for a grind. So being like the
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: top academic, like being the top 20% of academia is
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: probably going to help. prevents you from being a dropout,
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: which is almost worse than not going, right? Be prepared
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: to avoid all of this. Like the entire social life
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: at college. Is it worth it? Like really think about that.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: Is it worth, and in particular in college, is it
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: worth engaging in a social life in college that is
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: dating women or being around women and handing them the
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: right to decide your future for you? Because that's what
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: you do when you have sex with women in a college. Even, well,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: especially consensually, I guess. I don't know. Whatever that means
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: at this point in time. So if you're prepared to
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: avoid the social life, you're prepared to grind and go
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: there like it's a workplace, you know, maybe you can
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: make something good out of it. But don't just assume
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: out of college, oh, I'm going to go to university.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: Think about it. Make the decision. And also, if you
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: don't go... You'll be doing something. You'll be moving that
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: needle down to the point where these assholes in admissions,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: in the administration of colleges, have to actually address the
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: problems that they have because they're going to start seeing
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: admissions crater. So consider it because you are the product
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: on a college campus, guys, men. You are the You
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: are the draw for the students that they want to
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: bring in, women, who have, they purchase degrees that are
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: inexpensive to provide, but cost basically the same amount as
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: the degrees that men generally have, which required research budgets,
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: lab equipment, safety protocols, stuff like that. So they're trying
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: to bring women in and they're using you to do it.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: And then they're setting up an environment where the qualification
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: for removing, like destroying your future is that a woman
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: wasn't satisfied with her interactions with you. So it's almost
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: like men in colleges are like the whores in a whorehouse.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: And you know how the customer is always right. So
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: the colleges are like, yeah, ladies come here. Our whores
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: will give you a good time, and if you're not satisfied,
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: we'll kick them out on their ear. You like that? Like,
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: you're being used. And not just used as a draw,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: as an amenity for the opposite sex, for women. You're
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: also being subject to a climate and a culture that
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: makes you the problem if they're unhappy with the result. Like,
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: just think about that. And ask yourself, do I really
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: want to take part in that? Do I really want
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: to feed that monster? Anyway, shall we go to the
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: next one?
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm ready. I got it up here.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 6: They are, in a sense, very ordinary men. So in
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 6: the case of Jane Doe and many, many other victims
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 6: of sexual violence, we really have to understand the flight, fight, Oh, yeah, no.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, obviously, from the beginning, yeah.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: You dropped the alleged, yeah. No, she said alleged initially.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: No, no, she's a victim. No, I mean, that was,
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: it was always going to land here. She was always
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: the victim. She just had to ease people into it.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: But like, yeah, she's the victim. It's obvious. That's where
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: we are.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 6: Or fawn response, where fawning is a way of saying
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 6: after the fact, oh, it was okay. I enjoyed it.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 6: I think you're nice, even though that is not actually
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 6: accurate at all to what the victim ultimately thinks and
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 6: to what happened to her. It is rather that she
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 6: feels like the only way she can be safe is
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 6: to placate him. And also, frankly, sometimes our brains don't
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 6: want to fully recognize the horror of what we have
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 6: been through. So it can take a long time for
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 6: us to say what has happened to us and to
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 6: name it. even though what happened was not consensual in
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 6: cases where.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: This is a college professor. You probably should still stop
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: it every so often. So we don't get like a
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: copyright strike, but this is, this is a college professor guys.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, even if she's an assistant professor, she's still
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: a college professor and look at what she's promoting. Even
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: Jane does evidence or post evidence. gangbang texts that indicate
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: it was consensual well no that's not that's actually evidence
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: that it wasn't guys so there's literally no evidence that
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: a man could present that could exonerate him if a
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: woman decides that their sexual experience wasn't exactly what she wanted.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: Right yeah it's almost like yeah consent doesn't reel If
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: a woman can... In this context, yeah. Yeah. Well, this
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: is not just a context. This is the game. They're
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: giving the game up. She's basically saying there's a new
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: way that women can be raped, and it's fawning. It's
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: when they basically say, oh, that was okay. Oh, it
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: got a little ham, but that's all right. You know what?
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: I forgive you. I still like you. I'm still texting you.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Whatever. Doesn't matter. Whatever it is. But
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: she's saying they placate the men, they're rapists, because it's
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: a way of protecting themselves from the rapists. So it's
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: still men aggressor, women victim. And even if the woman was... Like, enthusiastic?
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: It doesn't get much more enthusiastic than sorting ketamine off
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: a guy's dick. It doesn't get much more enthusiastic than that.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: But even then, hey, guess what? That could just be,
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: you know what? You were actually raped. And she's like,
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: you know what? I was. And all the women around her, yes,
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: you were actually. That means, this is what I mean.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: There's no such thing as consent. The consent model is kaput.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: It doesn't work. It's useless. It's not, it's no good.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: No bueno. You know, that's it. I'm sorry. Like, just
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: stop it.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: This model, like this, this is insane. Well, I get
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: what you're saying. Well, it's the retroactive consent model. It's
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: the assumption that she does not consent, right? It's the
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: assumption that she, there is no way that he can
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 2: prove that she consented. Everything is evidence that she didn't consent, but, literally,
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: it's the black hole. Everything returns back to non-consent. No evidence.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: There's no evidence of consent. Nothing that she actually texts
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: indicates her consent. The text in which she said, I
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: don't know if you remember, because you seem pretty incapacitated
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: when I did that sexual thing to you. That doesn't
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: indicate that she consented. To the sexual act that he
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: couldn't have said no to because he was incapacitated. That
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean it. She might not have consented, even though
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: she was a complete aggressor in that. That doesn't mean
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: that she didn't consent. Because reasons. No, you're right. It's
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: like it's impossible. And it's not consent as a word.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: It is the consent culture. and which is the complete
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 2: anti-consent culture, as in women cannot give consent, right? Or alternatively,
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 2: that women should be able to revoke consent at any time.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 2: And of course, we don't even think about men's consent
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: at all, as a factor at all in anything. I
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: don't know, it needs to be a better word than
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: the consent culture, because they shouldn't be able to take
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: over the word consent. When what they're pushing is something
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 2: completely different. It is something horrifying.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: Anyway, let's listen to this one, the final one.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: All right, the rest of this, well, there's a little
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: bit more of this one, isn't there? No, no, no, no,
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: that's it, that's it. Okay, the agency claim. 31... I
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: like to do a little bit before that.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 6: Wait, what the hell?
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: 31?
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 6: That just are utterly inexcusable.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot another super chat. Ciao from Mr.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: Pierre.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: Another big paragraph. For $ 5, Richard Pierre gives us, he says,
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: something to keep in mind about Firestone is how it
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: is a perfect example of of how when a group
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: of women is organized for a particular purpose, there is
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: an undercurrent of all of the women in that group
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: thinking about how each of them should be the leader
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: who is directing the operations of that group. However, when
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: the current leader leaves the group, the entire group dissolves
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: and all of the women who were thinking that they
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: should have been the leader never voluntarily stepped into that role. Basically,
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: her psychiatrist moved away and the group that was organized
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: by the psychiatrist to check in on Shully Shulie Firestone. Yeah.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 2: He's referring to the guy with the dollar stone. I know,
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: She died by herself, I know. Fizzled out and Shulie
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: possibly starved to death because her paranoia was so severe
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: that she was unable to leave her apartment to go
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: shopping for food. I wonder why nobody else from that
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: sisterhood tried to keep the group together. Perhaps they all
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: knew about the scheming and backstabbing attitudes of so many
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: group members that nobody else wanted to take on that role. Yay, sisterhood. Yes,
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: we know it's ineffectual. But it's going to take everybody
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: else down with it, so we should probably take it seriously.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: Albatross gives us $ 5 and says, It never ceases to
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: boggle my mind that the women who complain the loudest
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: and the hardest about men are the ones chasing after
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: those very same men like starved cheetahs on a gazelle.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 1: All right. Let's keep going.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 6: Valor 2026.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 4: Something that I've seen a lot online also is we
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 4: are referring to the Cornell 7 alleged rapists as boys.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 4: And this happens a lot, right? We tend to call
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 4: them boys instead of men. And as we are essentially
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 4: infantilizing these men, it feels like we are doing the
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 4: exact opposite to Jane Doe.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: We're infantilizing men, guys. Did you know that? Men are
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: the ones being infantilized. Did you know that? Yeah, I
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: know that you're surprised, but now you've learned.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 4: And we are trying to analyze every single decision she
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 4: made that night. And some people are desperately wanting, they
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 4: want her real name. They want to know what she
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 4: looks like.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 6: It's so interesting because I do think that part of
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 6: the power of the I am Jane Doe movement, and
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 6: it really does feel like a movement at this point,
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 6: is that- This is what she wants.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: She wants this to be the new Me Too. She
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 1: wants it to take on as much momentum, if not more,
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: than the Me Too movement did when it was getting
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: all the men canceled for whatever little slights. Just bearing
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 1: in mind, that's the goal here. That's why she's like, oh,
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: it seems so powerful. 2.24 million subscribers.
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 6: That- We don't know her identity and many people can
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 6: project onto her their own experiences of sexual assault, sexual violence,
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 6: sexual harassment, and more. And that is a wonderful thing.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 6: She is kind of, because she is so courageous and
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 6: has come forward in this lawsuit, she's become a kind
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 6: of roar shark as a victim for anyone's experiences. And yet,
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 6: because of that anonymity, not knowing her identity, there are
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 6: people who really interestingly desperate to see what she looks
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 6: like as if that would explain what happened. And I
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 6: have written extensively on the way that if someone is
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 6: perceived as not conventionally attractive, they're actually more subject to
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 6: sexual violence. Sexual violence is actually slightly elevated for people
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 6: who are in larger bodies. For one example of this,
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 6: Because people who want to. Perpetrate sexual violence. Perceive that
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 6: they will not be believed.
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 1: Completely irrelevant. But it sells more copies of her book.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: If you really want to champion. People who aren't believed.
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 2: When they claim to be victims. My dude. I have
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 2: an entire sex. That. can claim that particular disenfranchisement, but
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: I guess we're not ready for that conversation. Um, I,
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 2: I don't, I, I don't see how the claim that
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 2: the boys they're using the term boys to infantilize, um,
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 2: are some of these boys, I think.
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 1: They're trying, I think they're trying to, well, I don't know,
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 1: but I think they're trying to paint a certain picture.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: That's what this is about. It's not about the truth.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: It's never been about the truth. Let's stop trying to
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: make it about the truth because it's not about the truth.
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 1: What they're trying to do is they're trying to paint
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: a picture where they say, look at all of the
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: sympathy and empathy that these men are getting. They're calling
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 1: them boys instead of men. Blah, blah, blah. They're interested
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: in what her role was in this. There are some
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: men who are claiming that they were actually victims. Whatever.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 1: And the goal is to remove... any and all possibility
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: that these men involved in this incident are in any
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 1: way worthy of any sympathy or compassion. So they're trying
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: to take it away by saying, look, they're infantilizing them.
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: They're calling them boys. Can you believe that? Even though
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone, if people use the word boys,
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: it was probably somebody that was much older that saw
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: everyone involved in this as children. Um, But that's all
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: it is. It's basically like you can't infantilize men. That's
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: for us. We're the ones that should be infantilized. Right?
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: That's all this is. It's like you're taking something away
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: from women that belongs to women. Infantilization, that's women. When
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 1: women do it. When men do it, it's sexism. Because,
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: you know, of course it is.
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 2: Well, we could do the fifth one. The fifth one.
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, because we all have to end. Man or bear. Yeah.
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 2: The classic, right?
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're bringing this back.
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 2: It was all building to that. It was building to this.
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 1: Yep. Okay.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 4: It kind of took off this past year on TikTok.
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 4: And basically, it's like, to anyone that's not familiar, women
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 4: were asked, essentially, would you rather be stranded in the
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 4: woods with a man or a bear? And most women
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 4: say no. A bear, no doubt about it. And a
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 4: lot of people are like, wait, wait, why?
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's not true.
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 2: Well, it depends on the age. Any woman with a
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 2: lick of sense who isn't like Gen Z or millennial
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 2: would say, no, a man. Right. And, uh, of course the,
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 2: the younger generation says the bear is And ironically, they're
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 2: also the most sexually violent generation with the worst track
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 2: record of seeing male victims of sexual assault in terms
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 2: of rape myths, or what they call rape myths, like
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 2: he enjoyed it. So the youngest generation of women chooses
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 2: the bear, but also is responsible for the greatest amount
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 2: of sexual violence, according to the millennial shift. And also
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 2: sees their victims with the greatest amount of contempt. Which
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 2: I think actually there's a connection here. Because when you're
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 2: an evil father. there's a certain drive to project that
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: behavior and that attitude onto your victims. And I think
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 2: that Gen Z, female Gen Z possibly are the evilest
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 2: fucks who ever did schlep upon the planet. So they
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 2: want to project that onto men. So they do the
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 2: man versus bear TikTok crap. When actually it is the
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 2: blackness of their own soul that they're staring upon. Okay,
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 2: that was a little rant. But yeah, it's like women
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: of my generation apparently choose the man. At least that
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: according to a UK survey on this very important topic.
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 2: It is younger women who choose the bear. Because they
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 2: are idiots. But let's continue.
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 4: Because if the bear comes and mauls me and I
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 4: somehow survive and I go to the police station and
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 4: I say this bear mauled me, they're going to go
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 4: into the woods and they're going to shoot the bear.
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: If I somehow I like how she if I if
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 1: I get mauled and I survive, let's just say for
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: the sake of let's say I survive. Well, you're probably
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: not going to. But OK, they're going to go shoot
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 1: the bear. Yeah, because there's going to be evidence that
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 1: you were mauled by a bear. And so they're going
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 1: to be. But like you see, you can't just walk
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 1: into a police station and say I've been mauled by
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 1: a bear and have no scars or any any wounds
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: or anything because they're going to laugh at you because
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: you're obviously not mauled by a bear. So it's actually
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 1: a really stupid other than the whole idea of being
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 1: really stupid. And it's just like a, a massive like
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 1: way of like emotionally shaming men for just existing as men.
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 1: Cause that's the whole man versus bear meme. The only,
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: it just exists to make men feel bad about being men.
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with like, there's not an
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: incident of a man and a bear encountering a woman
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: in the woods and the man assaults the woman while
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: the bear tries to intervene. Like none of that happened. Okay.
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: there is no instigating there is no instigating incident right
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 1: instead there was a hypothetical presented I think it was
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: intended to be rage bait and it worked and that's
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 1: what they're and that's just what they invoke now like now.
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 2: It's Now it's a point.
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 1: That a professor of psychology at Cornell is making. It
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 1: honestly doesn't matter if the majority of women said that
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 1: they would choose the man. It's irrelevant because the meme
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: is it was the bear. That's the narrative. That's what's
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: being pushed out. The truth doesn't matter. You guys getting
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 1: this yet? That the truth doesn't matter anymore? Not with
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 1: these people? It doesn't matter. And you can't change their mind.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 1: And they're not subject to losing a debate and saying,
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: oh my God, I was wrong about everything. That'll never happen. Okay?
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 1: Never happen. I've been doing this for 15 years or whatever.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 1: It will never happen. The truth does not matter to
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: these people. They just have an objective and the objective
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: is profit. I don't know. Profit, I guess. But anyway,
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 1: let's finish with this ridiculous anecdote of, you know, the very,
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 1: very pregnant Alex Cooper getting mauled by a bear, surviving,
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 1: going to the police and and the police shoot the
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 1: bear for her.
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 4: But we know the alternative. This is the whole conversation
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 4: we're talking about, right? You go in, and you go
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 4: into Cornell PD, and you tell them what these men
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 4: did to you, and they tell you, well, you should
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 4: be flattered that he came for you.
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, shut up. They did not do that. They expelled
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 1: some of those students, right? Yeah, you should be flattered, yeah.
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: I bet that they did that.
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 2: Cornell's rape response... Title IX is designed from stem to
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 2: stern by feminists. That's why one of these young men
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 2: could go to them and say, hey, I think I
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 2: was sodomized. And they'd be like, oh, wow, have you
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 2: considered walking it off? Huh?
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 2: That's why. Because the entire response was designed by feminists.
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 2: And now she's turning around and saying that this entire
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 2: response designed by feminists was going to tell this woman, oh, hey.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 1: You should be thankful. Actually, it's the manosphere, yeah. Yeah,
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 1: the college is run by the manosphere now.
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, so, okay, guys, I'm going to just point this out.
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 2: I'm just, because I've got the memory here, right? Uh,
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: The feminist said college campuses do not respond to sexual
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 2: violence correctly, Title IX. And this is something that impacts
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 2: women's access to education. So there's a rape culture on
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 2: college campuses and because of it, women aren't getting access
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 2: to education. Therefore, this is a government intervention issue. We
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 2: need to go in and we need to set up
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 2: all of these tribunals and all of these victim advocates, etc.,
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 2: This process is entirely controlled by feminists. And this woman
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 2: is saying that that is not good enough. Because in
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 2: this instance, in this process entirely controlled by feminists, this
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 2: woman didn't get her way. Nothing is going to satisfy
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 2: these people except the complete destruction of any standard that
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 2: women can be held to. Everything has to be adjudicated
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 2: by women's feels. I don't want to live in that world.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 2: It sounds like a fucking nightmare. Yeah. But again, feminists
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 2: went in. They designed it from stem to stern, and
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 2: that's still not good enough. Still not good enough. If
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 2: these dudes were charged with stealing a pack of gum
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 2: on college campus, the accusation would be held to a
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 2: higher standard than this girl's, Jane Doe's accusation was held to.
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 2: They just had to prove preponderance of the evidence. I
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 2: think stealing a pack of gum is beyond a shadow
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 2: of a doubt. But if you're a man charged with
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 2: sexual assault on a college campus... It's just preponderance of
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 2: the evidence to get you charged with that accusation. The
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 2: lowest standard of evidence possible. And everybody who actually decides
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 2: whether or not you're guilty has been trained with the
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: feminist version of what determines guilt. So preponderance of the
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 2: evidence is she said it, therefore you're guilty in many cases.
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, this is what you sign on
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 2: to when you walk onto a college campus, guys. You
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 2: are the reason, like literally, you are the amenity that
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 2: they're giving their preferred students, which are women, because women
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 2: take cheap, cheap degrees. They take cheap degrees. They're cheap
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 2: because they don't cost as much as men's degrees generally,
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 2: but they can charge just as much. So they're the
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 2: preferred customer. You are not the preferred customer. You are
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 2: the preferred customer's amenity. And when your feelings, if you
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 2: make a misstep and you don't ensure a good experience
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 2: for their preferred customer sexually with all this debauchery or whatever,
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 2: or the preferred customer's preferred social life, If you don't
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 2: ensure that as a man, you're out on your ear
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 2: with a destroyed reputation and potentially no degree, no job,
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 2: and possibly depending on how bad it is, no future
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 2: social life, and you're going to have a hell of
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 2: a time having a family and a wife. That's what
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 2: you face because you are not the customer, guys. You
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 2: are the amenity for the real customer, which is the
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 2: female co-eds. You are the sexual amenity. It's not precisely
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 2: being a whorehouse. I said that earlier. That's not quite legally.
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 2: What they would call it is a body house. And
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 2: what that means is it would be a house of
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 2: ill repute where they wouldn't directly charge the customers for
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 2: sexual access, but they would charge for drinks, for rooms,
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 2: for entertainment and everything else. for being in the venue.
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 2: And then there would just be whores in the venue
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 2: for access, which is their body houses. And what they're
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 2: actually selling is an experience to female co-eds. And part
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 2: of that experience, the big part of that experience is
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 2: they're going to have access to your sexuality as a man.
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 2: And if you don't put out and you don't make
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 2: a good experience for those preferred customers, you're going to
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 2: be destroyed. Because that's also part of the experience. Isn't
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 2: that fun? Don't you want to sign up for that, guys? Right?
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 2: They don't even have the honesty or the integrity to
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 2: admit what they're doing, these college administrations. To admit to
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 2: the fact that they know that women won't go to
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 2: college because if the percentage of men dips below 40,
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 2: because a big part of why women are there is
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 2: the sex, is the social life, is the gang bangs,
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 2: which you are expected to provide And if she's not
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 2: happy with it, even during or after, if she doesn't
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 2: get what she wanted out of it, then it's your
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 2: life on the line. This is just repulsive, but it's
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 2: what college administrations are doing because they want to make money.
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 2: And women are the preferred customer. And you are their
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 2: sexual amenity. All right, if you're going to college as
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 2: a man, unless you're going to be really disciplined and
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 2: keep your whistle clean, like just stay off the college campus,
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 2: don't get involved in the social life, don't get involved
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 2: sexually with these women, right? Just don't do it. And
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 2: you just get your degree. and be very professional about it,
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 2: then you're not being used. But if you can't do that,
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 2: if you don't trust yourself, don't go there. Because they're
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 2: going to turn you into an amenity. All right, let's,
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 2: shall we finish this?
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got one more super chow from Richard B.
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 2: Ayer.
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 1: He gave us $ 5 and sent a picture of Rupert.
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: So I'm not going to put that up on screen.
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 2: Rupert the man bear.
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the man bear.
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 1: All right. I think that was, wait, 28. There's a
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: little bit more of this.
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 6: What were you wearing?
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 4: What were you wearing? So why?
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: This is all they have. It's always the same shit.
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 1: What were you wearing? Oh, slut shaming.
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 4: Then you have the uprising of men being enraged by
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 4: this conversation.
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 4: What do you think about this conversation and why do
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 4: you think men are so deeply insulted by this?
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I like how she just says, I love how
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 1: she just says that you have men that are just
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 1: enraged by this conversation. No receipts, not necessary. We just
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 1: know it's happening. We're just going to, we're just going
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 1: to say this. Well, I mean like, but what do
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 1: you mean by enraged by the conversation? Like what does
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 1: she mean by it? Because if they think it's unjust,
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 1: that's one thing. But if she thinks it's like, that's
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, what do we, that's, this is
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 1: what I mean when I say she just says that
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 1: and doesn't, she doesn't unpack it. She doesn't explain it.
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 1: She doesn't have to. All she can say is it.
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 1: Basically she's saying men are crying. They're cry babies over this.
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 1: All they got to do is do what women tell them. So,
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 1: all right. Okay.
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 2: Let's hear what this, what this feminist professor who is
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 2: part of Of the ideology that set into place every
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 2: procedure that she is now complaining isn't sufficient.
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 2: So she did this.
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 2: Ideology constructed all of this, but it's not good enough.
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 6: I love this question because I think that it is
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 6: so natural and normal for a man to hear this
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 6: comparison and to feel at the very least really uncomfortable.
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 6: And to feel confronted, like women in my life and
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 6: women I follow online are saying that men are really,
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 6: really dangerous. Like that's what this comparison is saying.
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 2: Men, you should not feel uncomfortable about this. You should
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 2: feel disgust towards these people and the women who are
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 2: promoting this nonsense. And you should endeavor to cut them
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 2: out of your lives as much as possible. Be polite.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 2: But that's it. That's all they get. They get a
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 2: shallow surface and then nothing. Completely unyielding. This is absolute bullshit.
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 1: Let me ask the audience, guys. Are any of you
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 1: guys as uncomfortable as she claims men are right now?
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 1: Or is that not really the emotion that best fits?
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 1: And this is a misrepresentation of obviously of what you
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 1: actually think if you think anything at all and isn't
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 1: it funny that women's number one these bitches number one
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 1: weapon is to say oh look at you you're so
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 1: upset about this what's wrong who hurt you instead of
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 1: well you know is this just or unjust like what's
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 1: going on here what's mechanically going on that needs to
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 1: be addressed here well in order for us to do
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 1: that we have to figure out what the truth is
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 1: well what's the truth Well, let's investigate. None of that's happening.
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 1: None of it. Because they have no intention of doing that. Instead,
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 1: they're just going to tell you how you feel, and
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 1: then they're going to tear it down. Anyway.
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 2: You know what the ultimate goal of this is? And
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 2: this is what I base, like, I base this on
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 2: my research into, you know, the statistic, the surveys that
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 2: I'm doing, mostly the census, the US census. Because these women,
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 2: these women here, Are playing a game. And the game
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 2: that they're playing... By the way, so the... Alice Cooper,
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 2: she's pregnant. Does she have a husband?
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, she does. Alex Cooper. Yes, she does.
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 2: That's fascinating.
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 1: Just another case of a woman living a lifestyle that
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 1: she tells her audience not to live. Isn't that weird?
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is. Because it's... What they're doing is they're
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 2: playing this game in which.
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 2: The entire process of marriage and family formation or getting
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 2: in a relationship is really about sticking it to other women.
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 2: So you want to get a man the women in
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 2: your social group couldn't get. And it's juvenile. And it's infantile.
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 2: It's an infantile behavior. Status seeking. They talk a lot
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 2: about men doing that. When it is them, they are
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 2: doing that. So the whole idea is you want to
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 2: get a man that makes your girlfriends jealous, but you
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 2: also want to suppress your girlfriends reproductive and marriage opportunities too.
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 2: That's the game. And you win it when you're married
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 2: to the king, I guess, and no woman is married
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 2: in your entire realm. And then it collapses and fire
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 2: and gets invaded by the Mongols. I guess that's the
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 2: winning ultimate, like that's the end screen. But anyway, it's
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 2: a stupid game and it, Requires ranking men and only
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 2: seeing their value in terms of their position, in terms
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 2: of how well they reflect on you in the sisterhood,
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 2: in the social group. And it also requires condemning, like
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 2: removing men's side of the ledger in the relationship. So
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 2: the game, you undersell men so other women don't get one.
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 2: But you also undersell men so that you can punch up.
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 2: You can get max. You can get a man higher
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 2: up than you normally would by absolutely undercutting his value
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 2: proposition in the mating market, men's generally. Then you can
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 2: punch way up, go much higher than you would otherwise
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 2: be able to go. And this stupid game requires this
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 2: nasty misandry. in order to undercut men's value. So they'll
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 2: actually pony up to play the game or be part
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 2: of it, right? It's a society wide gaslighting of men
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 2: of undercutting their sense of self, their self-respect, their feeling
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 2: of what they offer women in the marriage market so
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 2: that you can get a man to accept less. You
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 2: can get that lovely gap going on. So if you're
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 2: a four as a woman, and I don't just mean physically,
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 2: I also mean in terms of your morality, your body count,
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 2: your behavior, your debt, your ethics, your virtues. If you're
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 2: a four, you can get yourself an eight and make
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 2: all of your other four and six friends jealous. But
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 2: it requires a constant drumbeat of vitriol spewed at men
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 2: in order to work. And it only costs everybody's wellbeing, right?
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 2: And the entire, the future of the civilization. What a
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 2: great game, huh? But yeah, she's playing it well, the
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 2: one that's pregnant and married. Because, you know, if you
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 2: can't get a man that makes your girlfriends jealous, you
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 2: can make your girlfriends all single and then they'll be jealous.
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 2: God damn.
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 1: Let's continue. All right. I got a rumble rant from NovaFan. Women,
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 1: when they eventually lose their freedoms, regardless of outcome, how
• 2:26:35
  Speaker 1: could this happen? I did nothing wrong. I did everything right.
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 1: All right. Thank you for that. Let's see. We're getting
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 1: a little long in the tooth here, but there's a
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 1: little bit more left in this clip.
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 6: I would really encourage men to sit with their sense
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 6: of discomfort and channel that and see if they can
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 6: sit with that and work up A feeling of outrage
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 6: on behalf of women because understanding that we're making this
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 6: comparison because the world is such a dangerous place for
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 6: women and so much more dangerous than it needs to be.
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 6: I think channeling that discomfort into a sense of, oh,
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 6: that must be what it's like to be a woman
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 6: and I need to take action on that basis.
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 3: That must be what it's like to be a woman. OK,
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 3: to compare the group of people that gives you lighting, food, water,
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 3: electricity and a place to sit in a comfortable studio
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 3: with a.
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 2: Month with a animal. that the best outcome it'll give
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 2: you is it'll ignore you and the worst is it
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 2: will eat you alive i think that i think the
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 2: predominant attitude for a lot of men was that women
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 2: are just stupid like i i'm gonna be just honest
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 2: But the other thing is she's saying, men, sit with
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 2: the discomfort that women feel in insulting you. We're insulting you.
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 2: We're comparing you to like an inhuman brute. But you
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 2: should sit with our discomfort in being in the same
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 2: room with you guys. Gaslighting to undercut men's sense of
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 2: self-respect and mate value. That's what that is. But also, guys,
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 2: if you listen to her, If you're the group of
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 2: men who is most likely to listen to her, that
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 2: would be feminist men, men who generally lean left. What
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 2: you get from listening to her is that you will
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 2: have to provide 2.3 times more income than any other
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 2: ideological group of men to get married. So you will
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 2: have to take on a wage penalty to even get
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 2: a relationship with these women. Isn't that like, like literally
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 2: by agreeing with them, you make yourself less desirable as
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 2: a man. Like, I don't know what else to say.
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell she thinks incentivizes all
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 2: of this self-disgust in men. Like you're expecting men to
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 2: compare themselves to a monster, not a monster, but like
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 2: an animal that has no interest in human women except
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 2: as food. They have to compare themselves with that. They
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 2: have to feel like that that animal is better for
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 2: women than they are. And then what do they get
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 2: from doing that? They get to go down to the
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 2: lowest rung of the totem pole when it comes to
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 2: male desirability. They're teaching you to undercut yourself, your own
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 2: value as a man, in order to play their stupid game.
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 2: That's what they're doing. Don't fall for it. I mean,
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 2: I know that I could argue for the end of
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 2: days with the commies, right? But don't fall for this shit.
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 2: This is even too stupid for communists. Don't fall for
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 2: this undercutting your value to prop up their ridiculous game
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 2: that they're playing, their gap-maxing game, where they get men
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 2: to accept less so they can make their girlfriends jealous,
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 2: either because their girlfriends are single and they are the
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 2: only one that has a partner, That's already creating. Or alternatively,
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 2: they get men to accept less and then they can
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 2: shoot higher and get that eight that's going to make
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 2: all their four girlfriends jealous. This is the stupid juvenile
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 2: game that they're playing. And they're just using gaslighting men,
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 2: gaslighting men into abandoning their self-respect and their sense of
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 2: self-worth in order to become the substrate for the stupid game.
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 1: All right. I'm done. Well, I think that's basically it.
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 2: That's the end?
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all the time codes. There's a lot more
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 1: that we could do, but it would just be this
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• 2:31:14
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• 2:31:14
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• 2:31:19
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• 2:31:24
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• 2:31:28
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• 2:31:33
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