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Hubba-Wha?! Episode #3 - Sesame Street Old School · Muppet Fan Podcasts with ToughPigs.com

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Welcome to help a lot. A muppet quiz show brought to
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you by tough pigs.com. It's America's new favorite game
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show where Muppet fans Muppet professionals and Everyone in
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between competes for fabulous prizes, and to see who's this
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week's toughest Pig. I'm your host, Evan G of tough
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pigs.com. Today on ha ha, our contestants
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will be testing their Muppet ational metal with a series of
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questions, about the early years of one of the longest-running TV
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shows of all time. That's right, we're on our
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weapon Ragini throat, that's right.
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Right. We're on our way to where the
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air is sweet with an episode about old-school Sesame Street.
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And today's episode is brought to you by the letter H.
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And the number three, this is what passes for small talk
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around here as the world's biggest Prairie, Dawn fan, I'm
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thrilled to be leading a little pageant of my own here today.
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So, welcome all Welcome to our little quiz.
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And today's performers are Scott Hanson of Muppet Wiki and Shane
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Keating of tough pigs.com. And yes, they will be portraying
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night and day. In this adorable little pageant,
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I know this, no visuals, but if you could see their great
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costumes, you'd get it. As always, these questions were
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written by me with help from that amazing Muppet resource
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Muppet. Wiki.
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And speaking of, let's agree to play fair today, please don't,
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look at Muppet Wiki, or any other resource while we're
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playing, even if you wrote that part of Muppet, Wiki Everyone
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likes ice cream but no one likes a cheater.
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So, Let's say hello and hola to our contestants with a game.
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I like to call to tell a face contestants buzz in to answer
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three questions about yourself. Whoever buzzes in first will get
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introduced first ready. Go Scott your first question.
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What is your name? My name is Scott Hanson.
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All right, that's 10 points, right there.
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Oh, I got it, right? So relieved, question 2, what's
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your history with the Muppets? Or with Sesame Street, what's
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your relationship there? Oh gosh.
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That's a, that's a long story. I'll try to keep it as brief as
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possible. I grew up with the Muppets like
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most of us did. It wasn't quite as cool when I
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was in high school. But I came back around to it.
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Especially when my daughter was born, I started getting back
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into the fandom. I was on the news groups online
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eventually just got into the thick of it with tough pigs.
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I was sort of like the the technical behind-the-scenes guy
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for for Danny. When tough pigs was started and
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sort of / research and then we decided to start Muppet Wiki
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together and here we are. Yeah.
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So what's your role on Muppet Wiki?
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These days pretty much the same is as it's been for about 15 and
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a half years. Now, I mean, we have a we have a
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good group of admins or sort of run the team, terrific group of
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editors, who have come and gone over the years, past few years,
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we've been really working on building up our Sesame Street
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episode guides from the, from the early years, which I know
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will be a focus tonight and yeah, just try Document,
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everything that can has never did.
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All right, and your last question, and the most important
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question, who's your favorite Sesame Street Muppet from the
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show's early days, or at least your favorite Muppet today?
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Because I know that can change from day to day.
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Yeah, when I was a kid, Ernie was my favorite.
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I guess I just liked how silly and and it Reverend, he could be
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the older. I get the more I identify with
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Bert. So I guess I'll Have to go with
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Bert today. Alright, so Scott in total
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you've earned 20 points, this round.
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Whoo. Shane, let's up, each question
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is worth a different amount Shane.
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I know it doesn't divide evenly. So Shane, let me give you those
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questions. What's your name?
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Okay, my name is Shane Keating, judges, did I.
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Yes. Whoo.
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What's your history with the Muppets, or with Sesame Street?
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Any of those? You know, your With this with
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this universe. Yeah, I think like Scott said,
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it's pretty much kind of what everybody did.
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I grew up with it. I started watching Sesame
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Street, and then I think, because my Law Library, put
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Muppet capes on the same shelf as the Sesame tapes, that's how
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I was able to start seeing, like the Muppet movie and great
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Muppet, Caper, and then in the early 2000s, that's when I found
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all the websites, like tough pigs, and muppet Central and
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sesame 70s. They all.
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Remember that website and friend.
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Nope, nobody does. And then Then slowly after that.
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Thank you Janice Lee surprised that I don't because again, I
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was looking for that kind of stuff at the time.
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So it was just it was only about those two disco albums, they put
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out and that was it. I got one of them right over
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there. I can't reach it from my desk,
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but which one fever Sesame Street Fever.
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I have that one over there. Yeah.
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I wish I Sesame discos, a better album, but I digress.
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So after I found the websites, then I slowly started getting
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involved in them. So I'm on admin on Muppet Wiki
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and I'm contributor for tough pigs, and put a lot of stuff on
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YouTube from Sesame Street. And Yeah, I guess that's it.
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You've got Sesame Street famous for putting Sesame Street stuff
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on YouTube. I think, didn't you get an
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invite from? Oh, that's right.
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Should I tell? That means you can start if you
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want. So, so my channel Marshal Grover
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got called out by the Cookie Monster.
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When he did the Ice Bucket Challenge back in 2014.
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I remember that. And that was, that was like a
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24-hour thing of like, wait, is that me, did he mean, Wait, who
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does that does that mean what? I think it means.
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And yeah, that was really great. Pretty darn cool.
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Big ego boost. And and and Shane at least
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today, who's your favorite of the old-school Sesame Street
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characters? I mean, does it count if he's
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old school if he's still around? Yes.
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Yeah, I mean Bert is Oscar. The Grouch has always been my
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favorite. I have tons of Oscar things all
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around the room. Here, I've So many photos from
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like, Sesame Place of me and Oscar things around.
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And one of my most treasured things is that I have a drawing
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of Oscar from Caroll spinney, which is neat.
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That is really neat. All right.
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So Shane you also have 20 points and the score is tied.
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All right, as we move into round two, now that we've met the
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people in our neighborhood. Let's talk about those lovable
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Monsters of Sesame Street and all of their friends.
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It's a game that I call can you guess.
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Now everyone knows Bert and Ernie, and Big Bird and Oscar,
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and Grover and Cookie Monster. But can you identify these
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Sesame Street characters who maybe didn't appear on quite as
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much merchandise? Please, wait until I finish
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asking the question to buzz in. So our friends at home can play
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along each of these questions is worth one point.
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Question one, he gets his name from his original Design where
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he was a googly eyed television monster.
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Shane Telly monster. Correct.
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Question to this toothy monster might look and sound scary but
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he's very friendly and childlike, Shane.
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Oh, frazzle, correct. Question 3, this lovable, orange
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and white character was originally conceived as an
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acrobatic ape. Shane Berkeley.
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Correct question for. And this is I will pause and say
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one of my favorite things I've ever learned from Muppet Wiki
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coming up in question 4. According to early script notes,
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this character was originally called the Galapagos before
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getting an even longer named Scott.
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That's got to be Snuffleupagus. It is Snuffleupagus.
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According to Muppet Wiki, there is a season.
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What is it? Seasoned Therese grit season 3.
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Thank you. Was like two or three season 3
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script that has the note. Galapagos is now called the
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Snuffleupagus II. Don't know why.
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But just thinking of the word Galapagos makes me think of the
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Shane. You probably remember what year
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this was, but there was a, somebody submitted a sketch at
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some point for to introduce Snuffy's little brother.
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And he was just going to be like a two-legged no armed snuffle
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thing. I don't know if they gave me a
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different name, but now when I hear Galapagos, that's what I
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think of that drawer Drawing, he doesn't have a different name,
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and I know this because I tried really hard to figure out how to
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ask a question about Snuffy's little brother on this this
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episode, because again, there's again, great Muppet Wiki
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article, I'm going to be shouting out a lot of Muppet
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Wiki articles because I have two admins here with me and I wrote
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that one, the one on Snuffy's brother that also mentions other
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characters who were brainstormed at that time which includes a
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character I think. I think the show Absolutely
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needs which is Ernie and Bert sland Lord yes, or should I say
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landlady? Well, they've had, they had a
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superintendent, Karen Dura one point and then a building
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inspector and Maria became a superintendent in like season
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one of the Season 40s or T2. Okay.
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And they also established they said time and again that like,
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Gordon might own the building. So wouldn't he be the landlord
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if Gordon owns the building? Why does Gordon have to be a
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public school teacher? Let me tell you from experience.
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There is an episode early on where Gordon and mr.
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Hooper argue over who owns the carriage house and Gordon says,
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it's his because he owns one, two, three, Sesame Street, or
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something like that. And mr.
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Hooper owns Hooper's store. So it was in there somewhere
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that he owns the building. So I guess they're landlady is
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Susan then. Um, or Gordon with a wig.
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Yeah, question. N5, because he reacted to
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failure by Smashing his head against a piano writers were
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concerned that this Muppet would be a bad influence.
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Scott Gone music. It is done music.
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Who recently appeared in the most recent season of Sesame
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Street, still Erik doing them. He didn't speak question six.
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Although he stopped making new appearances on the show in 1975.
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He was once so popular that he got Sesame Street's first album
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focused on a single character. Shane Roosevelt Franklin
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correct. I have that album to don't have
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that one. I it's something that I'm
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definitely looking for question 7 despite appearing alongside
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big bird as early as season 1. He was finally confirmed to be
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Big Bird's cousin in season 50. Scott little bird correct, Scott
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Shane do you remember the name of little birds teddy bear from
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that episode Walter? Mmm, I knew it because it's also
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named after a mesh character. Did you know that the was Ice
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Follies? They did a sort of another take
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on a smaller big bird with a just call them small bird.
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I And that sounds terrifying. Yeah, look it up.
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It's pretty bizarre. I will question 8, according to
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the Sesame Street, bedtime storybook.
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This character lives next door, to the counts Castle.
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Scott the amazing Mumford. Correct question, 9 Caroll
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spinney. Not only performed this usually
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silent Muppet but he designed him.
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Shane Bruno. Correct question 10.
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The final question in this round, Frank Oz hated playing
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this character because of his loud laughter, that was
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difficult on Frank's throat. Scott, our beanie slobber
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correct. Harvey knee-slapper.
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You know, I wonder if they'll ever release a harvey
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knee-slapper toy but I wouldn't count on it.
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But what I will count on is our next game, which we call the,
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how many game Sesame Street taught us?
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All that counting is wonderful and that kids like you and me
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were born to add in this game. I'm going to ask you to remember
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some numbers that We've seen on Sesame Street.
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Now, this game has a bit of a trick to it, though.
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All right. You know, how on Jeopardy, you
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have to answer a certain way or else you don't get points.
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You have to say, like, who is granny?
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Fanny nesselrode, or what is a cabbage?
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This game works similar exactly what you would hear on Jeopardy.
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Listen, I haven't watched Jeopardy in a while and, you
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know, Levar. Burton isn't the host.
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So I'm not about to start. I only watched shows that
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feature people who also appeared on PBS.
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So, so this in this game, obviously, all of the answers
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are going to be numbers, but for no reason at all, I'm going to
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ask you to surround that number with a couple other words.
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I'm going to ask you to say. So let's say the question was,
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how many eyes does Grover have? And the answer is 2.
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I'm going to ask you to say, I too.
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The sandbox you're going to say, I before the number and then the
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sandbox after the number, where could this be leading Evan?
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I don't know. There's no reason that I run the
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game. This way, there's no reason.
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Um, what's your endgame? I don't know.
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I just I like sandboxes Scott. So as always, please wait to
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buzz in until I finished the question question 1.
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The number of toes on Big Bird's foot.
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Foot. Shane.
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I'ii the sandbox. Correct question to the highest
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number The Pointer Sisters singing in the pinball.
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Number count, Shane. I 12 the sandbox.
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Correct question, 3, the number of chocolate layer cakes.
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That the baker drops down the stairs.
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Scott I tend to said box correct now, there's so many of those
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Baker films. How do you how do you remember
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which one has what I can only remember 10?
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What one is a wedding cake? And that's, that's easy to
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remember because it's one. Yeah, you really couldn't carry
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more than one of those to begin with question for the number of
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rubies, that the alligator King breaks his teeth on.
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Shane said well i7 the sandbox. Nice save almost blew it.
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Question 5, according to the Jeff Moss album numbers, it's
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Bert's favorite Scott. I6 the sandbox.
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Correct. Question, six.
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I should have made the last one. Question 6.
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But maybe that would have given it away.
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Give It Away. Question 6 the counts license
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plate number in Follow That Bird.
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Scott. I 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8, 9 0 the
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sandbox incorrect Shane. Can you steal?
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I'm gonna say I one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
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nine, ten, the sandbox correct. Ah, Curse your she.
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I had to that dump. Don't blame me.
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Blame the Department of Motor Vehicles.
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That's too many numbers for a license plate so that way that's
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legal. He's a vampire.
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Yeah, they can't catch him. He's the Living Dead.
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Question 7. The number of months old that
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Oscars newspaper is in. I love trash Shane.
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I 13 the sandbox. Correct question, 8 in a song
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Prairie Dawn tells us that she can tie her shoes all by herself
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because she is this many years old, Shane. 6.
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The sandbox correct. Well, that's two sixes at.
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You should have made for. Number six, that's true.
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Question 9 the number of years after Sesame Street's debut that
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The Monster at the End of This Book was released.
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Scott. I to the sandbox.
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Correct. And only one year after Grover
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started appearing, on the show. And then the last question of
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this round question, 10 until the birth of his youngest
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daughter. Everything in this famous kings,
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kingdom had to Total this number, Scott.
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I ate the sandbox. Really.
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How did it taste delicious? I'll have to look into that.
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Yeah, caress got I was not going to fall for that.
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All right. Well, speaking of numbers.
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Let's check the scores real quick.
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So, right now Scott, you have 29 Points and Shane you have 31
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points. So it's a very close game.
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I 31 the sandbox, correct. All right, now it's time for our
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head-to-head round that we call be the time in this round.
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The rules are a little different.
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I'm going to ask you a question. 12, correct, answers, starting
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with Scott. You are going to give me an
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answer to that question after you answer, we're going to jump
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to Shan Shan you're going to give me an answer to the
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question. If you guys can't answer it
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bounces to the next person. If you take too long to answer
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it bounces to the next person. Now I'll tell you normally on
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this show I can be kind of lenient with things taking too
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long. Long.
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But again I'm dealing with you guys and I know you guys know
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all of the answers to this is my theory because I know you too.
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So I'm going to be. I'm gonna hold you guys to that.
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That time limit. We're going to we're going to
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try to go. Go fast with this.
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All right, the pressures on. So, when I was writing these
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questions, I decided that I was going to end this old-school,
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Sesame Street era in 1985, and I chose that because that's the
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year that Follow That Bird was released Sesame.
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Street's first theatrical movie. Now, for those who haven't seen
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it and you should watch it, it's a wonderful film and it's on HBO
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Max. I believe at the moment or on a
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DVD with Elmo on the Cover. Despite the fact that he is in
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five frames of that movie, if you haven't seen it, the plot of
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this movie is that big bird is sent away and the rest of the
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Sesame Street characters have to find him specifically by my
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count 12, Sesame Street, characters hit the road looking
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for Big Bird. Starting with Scott name a
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character who looks for big bird in the film?
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Follow That Bird. Scott Cookie Monster correct.
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Shane. Olivia.
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Correct. Scott Susan.
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I don't think Susan is in one of the cars.
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She's not. I'm using is not now.
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Okay? So That's right.
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She's she receives the the Volkswagen that at the end when
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it comes back. Hmm.
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Okay. Yeah, right.
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Sorry, it took me a second because I was like, wait, am I
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wrong? I'm like irie.
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Irie. Watch this before, I guess we'll
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just have to start all over again.
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Okay, so we're gonna jump then back to shame.
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A Honker. Good Scott Gordon.
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Correct. Shane Journey.
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Correct Scott. I guess I'll go with Bert.
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Correct. The same Super Grover.
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Correct Scott is Grover counts as a separate calendars.
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That is the same characteristic a Grover.
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I hate to break this to you and I'm sorry.
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But that's Grover is really a store, knob salesman Grover
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monster, okay? But have you ever seen them in
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the same room together at the same time?
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Yes. I have a plastic toy of each of
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them on my bookshelf. Fair enough.
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All right. I'll go with Oscar.
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The Grouch then, okay. Shane Telly.
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Monster correct Scott Maria. Correct Shane Gordon.
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I'm sorry. Scott has already said Gordon.
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So we're going to bounce back to Scott.
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Linda. Correct.
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And Shane. This is the last character
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account, correct. There we go.
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All right. Um, You Reach got six of them.
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Well, if you thought this was just an easygoing day, don't
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worry, things are about to get harder because it's time for my
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favorite game. The triangle is, right?
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So in this game, it's a little harder than guy Smiley's
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version. Every answer is going to be a
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triangle no in this game. Every answer has every question,
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has three correct answers, and you can score one point for
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each, right? Answer buzz in.
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Even if you don't know all three answers because you'll still get
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points for whichever ones, you get correct.
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However, your opponent will have the chance to steal and clean up
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whatever you missed. As always wait.
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Until my question is complete to buzz in, So question 1, the
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three blue monsters joined by frazzle in fuzzy and blue.
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Scott Grover Cookie Monster and hairy monster.
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Correct. Question to the three human main
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characters, who appeared in the first episode of Sesame Street
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and were not recast. Scott.
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Loretta long is Susan. Will lie as mr.
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Hooper and Bob McGrath is Bob correct or Bob Johnson if you
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want to be formal question, 3, the three colors on births
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shirt, Shane. Green blue, yellow.
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Okay, you got two, green and blue are correct.
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Scott, Can you steal the last color, white?
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You know, I wasn't counting white as a color.
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All right, then Morgan. Look, I'll give you, I'll give
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you a point for white, and I'll give you a point for the correct
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answer or inch. These are important points.
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Here's what we're saying? Yes, question for the three
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performers who have performed. Warmed, the voice of mr.
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Snuffleupagus. Shane.
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Jerry Nelson. Michael Earl, and Marty
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Robinson. Correct question. 5 the three
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new recurring, Jerry, Nelson. Characters added in season 4 Sky
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the count, mr. Blackwell the count is 1 so you
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will get one point for that. Shane, can you name the other
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two Sam? The Robot correct.
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Nope, I got nothing. Roxy Marie is going to be very
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disappointed in you guys. It's it's Biff question six the
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three monotones who accompanied little Jerry Shane big Jeffy
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Rock and Richard and Chrissy. Correct and question 7,
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excluding the show's pilot, the three actors who played Gordon.
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Scott. Matt Robinson, Roscoe Orman and
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which is this is the hard one? This is the hard one so I don't
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want to say the first met well as Shane knows it, it's all like
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I'm giving anything away. It's it's hell, something same,
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hell Miller correct. I gave that to you.
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You didn't know how we'll just remember Miller, I give you the
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whole thing. Well, arguably arguably, the
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hardest one to name is the one from the pilot because it's that
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too. Like 47 years for us to name.
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But Garrett, Garrett Saunders, I think.
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All right, speaking of the triangle is, right?
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And games that make Prairie, Dawn frustrated, we're going to
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move on to our final normal round.
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What's prairies problem, as we all know the world is made up of
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chaos. Muppets like Ernie and Grover.
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And Cookie Monster and Order Muppets like Bert and Kermit,
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and Prairie Dawn in this tribute to that ongoing battle, I am
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going to describe a classic Sesame Street sketch, you have
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to describe the punchline. That settles the order, Muppets
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problem. So as an example, just so, you
29:00
know what I mean, if I said, Ernie is walking around with a
29:04
banana in his ear. Bird has a problem with this in
29:07
complaints Ernie. You would say, can't hear Bert
29:12
because he has a banana and easier, right?
29:14
I'm not looking for like specific words, obviously, you
29:17
Don't have to give the specific line, but you do have to
29:20
describe what happens to end this battle between Order and
29:25
Chaos, gotcha. So remember, we're going to try
29:27
to keep some order around here so buzz in after I finish the
29:31
question. And remember each of these
29:33
questions is worth one point? Question, 1.
29:38
Ernie makes a sculpture of Bert's face but bird has a
29:41
problem with it Ernie fixes the problem by Scott removing
29:51
Burke's nose and placing it on the sculpture.
29:54
Correct. Question to mr.
29:57
Johnson is very hungry. So he orders a small hamburger,
30:01
it's not enough. So Grover solves the problem by
30:04
bringing him Shane a big hamburger.
30:13
I think you're getting it by putting emphasis on the word
30:16
big. How big we talking twice the
30:19
size of the table or if not more.
30:21
Yeah, just for the audience at home.
30:24
Just I knew you knew question 3 Ernie and Bert aren't catching
30:29
any fish Ernie solves. This problem by Scott chanting
30:40
into the water. Hey, fishy, fishy.
30:42
Fishy fishy. Correct question for.
30:45
It's nighttime and Ernie needs to know what time it is.
30:49
Bert tells him to go back to sleep, but Ernie solves the
30:52
problem by Shane. He sings O solo Mio off-key
31:03
outside the apartment Window and then people shouted him and tell
31:06
him what time it is. I'm going to throw this out
31:10
there for an extra point. What time was it 3:00 in the
31:13
morning? Correct.
31:17
Just because I have that written down questions bit it is
31:22
question. 5 Grover wants to sell Kermit earmuffs but Kermit has
31:26
no ears Grover solves this by Scott, giving him years, giving
31:36
him ears. naturally question 6, hairy monster and Cookie Monster
31:43
are fighting over a bicycle Kermit steps in to teach them
31:46
about cooperation and then they Shane share the bicycle by
31:56
eating it. Correct and the last question on
31:59
this round and for this one, I am looking for specific wording.
32:03
Kermit wants to talk about rectangles Cookie Monster steps
32:07
in to help and crushes curve. Its rectangle.
32:10
This is a good solution because as cookie says it's now, Shane.
32:20
It's now it's a wreck and at angle correct her wrecked as we
32:29
got, thank you. All right, we're coming up on
32:33
the end of the show, but now the points are even bigger because
32:37
this is the anything in the world prize game, and we call it
32:42
that because you two are able to ask me.
32:45
Anything in the world or at least anything in the world of
32:49
Sesame Street. Pre-1985, if you can stop me,
32:53
you will earn 10 points. So let's start with Scott.
32:58
Scott's you have a question for me.
33:00
Anything in the world. Yeah.
33:02
So what I'm going to do is I'm going to give you a list of
33:07
eight characters and you have to tell me which ones Jim Henson
33:12
never performed. So I wrote These out of my
33:14
screen, I'll I'll share my screen with you just so you can
33:17
see the list of them here. Yeah, I'll read them for the,
33:21
I'll read them for the yeah. I'll read them all.
33:23
But this is, this is just for you.
33:24
Yeah, yeah, yeah. On this list of eight
33:27
characters, tell me which one's Jim Henson never performed.
33:31
So, we've got Elmo Grover, Little Bird, Big Bird Oscar, the
33:37
Grouch granny fanny nesselrode, tammela Grandeur fall, and
33:42
Farley So you can choose as many as you want, make your
33:47
selections and then when you've got your selections, I'll go
33:51
through the list and tell you how you did, okay?
33:54
So just to just to talk through things a little bit, I do want
33:57
to just clarify. Are we talking about performed
34:01
on like released episodes of Sesame Street?
34:05
Or are we including things like okay?
34:07
Like yep, I uh yeah this is this isn't like behind the scenes
34:10
photo ops this is this is Like guest appearances on somebody
34:17
else's show. This, this is, this is proper
34:19
episodes of Sesame. Yeah.
34:21
Because there's like the legend that like, he Jim was,
34:24
originally supposed to be burped and I know Bert isn't on this
34:27
list but like, Jim was supposed to be burped and Frank was
34:30
supposed to be a journey and it wasn't working, so they changed
34:33
it. But like, yeah.
34:34
So just making sure it wasn't like a story like that, that I
34:37
had forgotten. Okay.
34:38
So, looking at the list right now on, we've got Elmo, Grover,
34:42
little bird, Big Bird. Oscar granny, fanny nesselrode,
34:47
Tamela, grindle grinder. Taman, Ella grinder, fall, and
34:52
Farley. And I do just want to say, as an
34:54
aside I'm glad you managed to get Farley and granny fanny
34:59
nesselrode into this, this game. I know I mentioned granny fanny
35:03
a little bit but I was trying to write a Farley question and let
35:06
me tell you there is nothing interesting about Farley so I
35:10
cannot ask a question about him. Or Farley.
35:15
He's got, he's got one good song.
35:17
It's is there some love? It's worth noting, and this is
35:20
an aside and then I will get to actually trying to solve your
35:22
question. So I was playing some of my
35:25
records the other day and I forget, which one I was
35:29
listening to, which of the Sesame records, but Farley had a
35:34
verse in a song or something like that.
35:37
And my partner was like, who is that?
35:41
I'm like, that's that's Charlie. He, you know, and and and they
35:46
were like, what is Farley do? And I'm like, nothing and that's
35:51
why he wasn't on the show very long because like you you listen
35:56
to those old albums and it's like all the characters.
35:59
It was always like the most recognizable characters,
36:01
obviously, and then like occasionally Farley would have a
36:04
voice in like here in the middle of my imagination or something.
36:09
Harley was the the king of generic Muppet, boys.
36:13
It's like I mean Farley is like Betty Lou basically but sure
36:18
that's very well with more the more consistent performer,
36:20
that's true. But the difference is they
36:23
needed more female characters. So Betty Lou showed up more
36:26
often, alright? So looking at this list and we
36:30
are including fuzzy face as Grover.
36:32
I assume. Sure.
36:34
Okay, okay, I'm probably wrong but I am going to guess here,
36:39
right? I'm guessing of these eight
36:41
characters Elmo grow. Over Little Bird, Big Bird Oscar
36:46
granny, fanny nesselrode, Tama TOA, grinder fall and Farley.
36:53
I'm guessing four of these have been performed by Jim Henson.
36:57
And I'm guessing little bird who I know for a fact was performed
37:01
by Jim Henson, at least, once that's the one that I know
37:05
Granny, Taman, Ella, and Farley. Okay?
37:10
Those are your those, your final answers.
37:12
Those are my final answer. There's okay, so you're correct
37:16
that for of these were performed by Jim Henson.
37:19
Wow, I'm impressed that I got even that right.
37:22
You four of them. He did not of the of the for
37:27
that. You chose to are correct.
37:29
Okay, so so I'm going to go through the first four that he
37:34
did perform. This might be interesting for
37:37
the listeners because some of this stuff is information that
37:40
was kind of lost for a really long time.
37:43
We only really kind of recently dug it up.
37:46
So the the first one on the list that Jim Henson did perform is
37:50
Oscar the Grouch he performed Oscar in an episode of Sesame
37:56
Street. This was broadcast, this is not
37:58
a special aside thing, it was an episode 84.
38:04
And it also happens to be an episode that featured one of the
38:09
three appearances by Rufus the dog, which but fans might know,
38:13
From other Muppet projects. But but he did perform Oscar.
38:18
I'm frustrated because I know I read that Muppet Wiki article
38:21
because I vaguely. Remember you Tweeting that there
38:24
had been episodes found of Sesame Street, that featured
38:27
Rufus. And I was like, I gotta read
38:29
about that, so, yeah. Hey, okay.
38:32
So Oscar is one. Yep.
38:34
That's one. The other one is Grover or
38:37
that's a little bit of a cheat, because he wasn't quite Grover
38:39
yet, he's was what fans have come.
38:43
Um, to to call fuzzyface, the article on the wiki that we have
38:48
for him. We're actually Chronicle as
38:50
Proto Grover, but Jim Henson performed him in the very first
38:55
near and far sketch, which, of course, Grover would become
38:59
famous for. I've seen that.
39:01
See, this is the thing like, now, I'm just frustrated.
39:05
Yep, it's a good one. The other ones.
39:08
So you got, you got this one. Correct, granny fanny
39:11
nesselrode, Jim played. Any in her very first
39:15
appearance. And then it mostly became Caroll
39:19
spinney and then they think Jim played them one completer, maybe
39:23
once or twice again, after that, it was primarily a Caroll
39:27
spinney character. But you did.
39:29
I mean if she kind of disappeared by like, what's
39:31
these? Yes, six likes.
39:32
Right? Nobody remembers her anyway, so
39:34
it doesn't matter but and the fourth one that he did play was
39:38
of course you got this one right as well was little bird who he
39:42
first established. It's a couple of years before or
39:46
the year. Before says, I'm sure you know,
39:47
easy bake, oven commercial. He did the first two
39:51
performances of little bird on the show.
39:54
And then it mostly became friend Brill and Evan for some bonus
39:59
points for you that don't matter because this is your thing.
40:02
Yeah. Can you name three performers,
40:07
who, who did little birds? That weren't friend role after
40:11
that point. So I can name One.
40:14
Right? Because Stephanie debris.
40:17
So did him in season 50. Okay well alright so that's fair
40:22
I was mostly keeping within the realm of the old sleep period.
40:25
Okay was it Stephanie in season 50 or am I wrong?
40:29
No, you're right. That was okay.
40:30
Yeah, I figured because she does the friend bro, let me shoot as
40:33
Prairie Dawn, it's the same kind of voice.
40:35
Um, okay, Jerry Nelson, must have been little bird once but
40:41
that's a guess that is correct. That's just because Jerry Nelson
40:44
just did every like did everything he was like just the
40:48
go to do anything. Um Caroll spinney, probably did
40:53
him once that is also correct. And then the third one, I'm
40:57
going to guess is like someone who I have no idea of it's like
41:02
Brian meal or something. Yeah, I would if this had been
41:06
posed to me and I didn't know it from the wiki, I wouldn't have
41:09
guessed it either. It was Bob pain.
41:10
Yeah, I knew it wasn't like Frank Oz or anything and you
41:15
know, where Richard I would have remembered that.
41:17
But yeah. Okay.
41:19
Bob pain. All right, so so so the for so
41:21
the four that were no. Also have some some interesting.
41:24
Please that please your the audience, the audience loves
41:27
this stuff and I love. So the four that were on the
41:30
list that Jim Henson never performed were Elmo which as we
41:35
all know, was originally performed by Brian meal who I
41:39
was surprised to learn when we started digging into the stuff.
41:42
He actually performed Elmo for five years and Richard Hunt only
41:46
performed him for half a season and then of course, Kevin Clash
41:51
took him over and made him famous.
41:53
Did we did we check the dates and found find out that Richard
41:57
only did him for like three weeks.
41:59
Yeah. Yeah, it's so so as Aired.
42:02
It's a little bit less than half a season, but yeah, we ended up
42:05
figuring out. We look at the production dates
42:07
and Richard actually only ever played Elmo for like two or
42:10
three weeks or something like that.
42:12
We just playing who's playing Elmo in.
42:14
We are all monsters that Jerry Nelson stereo.
42:18
Oh oh okay. I was like I don't think it's
42:20
either of them but and and contrary to these, you know,
42:26
several times he told the story. But we have proven that he just
42:30
misremembered, it was thinking of it.
42:31
Different character. Caroll spinney.
42:33
Never played no mo. I won't get into those details
42:38
here, but there's a, there's an article on the wiki.
42:41
I would look at the Proto Elmo article and also look at the
42:44
baby Monster article. But anyway, kind of interesting.
42:49
The next one on the list that Jim Henson never performed was
42:52
with big bird. Although he Big Bird was
42:55
performed by somebody other than Caroll spinney on an episode of
43:00
Sesame Street and I was Daniel Seagram.
43:03
It was filmed. I think it was either the Same
43:05
day or like that same week that Jim played Oscar because Carrie
43:10
Carol was sick that week. I don't know if it lines up with
43:15
when they filmed the Ed Sullivan stuff.
43:16
But Daniel secret also performed Big Bird on that show.
43:20
Is that how you pronounce his last name?
43:22
I've never known. See Grand?
43:24
Never, I've never heard it spoken.
43:27
Yeah, I'm just kind of guessing, I've never heard it spoken
43:29
either, it looks like it's esea GRE MC grad.
43:34
So Anyway, the other one was at mL of render fall, which was
43:41
kind of a, I think, too. You know, most fans might be
43:44
like, what do you talk about sort of Sesame Street character?
43:46
Well, we recently discovered again, with from the past year
43:48
or two. She made a very minor appearance
43:52
on Sesame Street. We were all very surprised to
43:55
see your show up and she's she was performed not by her usual,
44:00
performer, Geri Jewell, but by Frank Oz in this in the spot.
44:06
It's a very weird one too, wasn't it?
44:08
She was like, in a group of monsters, right?
44:11
Because I know I was reading about this on Muppet Wiki, yeah.
44:14
Like, like, one of those sketches were like beautiful day
44:17
monster and scotch and Fred, and his son would just like stand
44:21
behind a wall and look at a letter.
44:23
It was like one of those, right. Except it just also had ten
44:26
Mandela in it. Yeah.
44:28
And finally the last one was Farley who aside from a very
44:33
brief laugh from Richard Hunt of us.
44:35
Song It's funny for Ali was always Jerry Nelson.
44:39
So there you go. Nicely nicely done?
44:42
Yeah, no, that was a great question.
44:43
I gave you a 10 points because even though I got half that
44:48
still, I got it wrong and that was some good stuff.
44:52
And again, I mean, I'm sure everybody listening to this
44:54
looks at Muppet Wiki from time to time.
44:56
But again, the reason I wanted Scott and Shane on this is the
45:00
work that they've both been doing, you know, along with
45:03
other people. But regarding the old All Sesame
45:06
stuff has been incredible lately.
45:08
The amount of just things that have surfaced and again, it's
45:13
tough. It's tough to find this stuff
45:15
obviously because there's how many total episodes of Sesame
45:18
Street, so, we're 4500. Yeah.
45:21
Yeah. Well, it's it's wild because,
45:24
you know, you think of, you know, when the internet started,
45:26
what did fans do for the first time?
45:28
They started making lists of things and if you were, if you
45:31
were Star Trek fan there was you know, a finite amount of Star
45:34
Trek episodes. To write about if you were an
45:37
X-Files fan you just you know they are all readily available
45:40
but for the majority of its history, thousands of episodes
45:46
of Sesame Street are have just been completely inaccessible.
45:50
So we've been building. What is really the only?
45:55
The first and only Sesame Street episode guide.
45:58
And this is some really interesting stuff that you can,
46:01
you can find in those pages. Shane, do you have a question to
46:04
try to stump me? I do mine is also a character
46:09
list based thing that's fine. We're not does, it's not going
46:14
to be too to say, me look as long as your question isn't
46:18
literally which of these 8-bit characters who are performed by
46:23
Jim Henson. I'm cool with it.
46:26
Okay. Are you ready?
46:27
Yes. All right.
46:30
So in episode 17 33 in season 14, we see a flashback to Susan
46:39
and Gordon's wedding out in the arbor.
46:42
Can you name three people? Muppets are humans that were in
46:47
attendance at that wedding I'll give you three you can have if
46:51
you get any right. You're good.
46:54
If you get three wrong, you're out.
46:56
Oh okay. So I'll give you three strikes.
46:59
That's this is fun. Okay, I do think I remember
47:03
seeing a picture of this again in my mother Wiki travels Susan
47:08
and Gordon. Don't count obviously.
47:09
Yeah. Okay.
47:10
That would be way too easy or the minister.
47:13
Fair. I wouldn't consider that to be a
47:15
character. It was gone do, right?
47:17
Yeah. Dave, goals, making one of his
47:21
few Sesame Street appearances, who that would have been a good
47:24
trivia question. That's, that's later says me
47:26
though. Yeah, yeah.
47:28
His first character is, of course Horatio the elephant
47:31
before he was named. Horatio the elephant.
47:33
But yes! Anyway, um, okay, this is a
47:38
weird one, but I'm actually going to start with a weird one.
47:40
Ok Telly monster. No.
47:44
Okay so that's one strike. I was sure that it would be
47:48
something like but Telly wouldn't have been on Sesame
47:51
Street at that point. Like you were going to you know
47:54
do this as a Twist. Well actually no.
48:01
Uncle Wally. Strike two.
48:04
Okay, man, I should just be guessing like normal characters,
48:09
um, Oscar Oscar was there. Okay, that's one.
48:15
Okay. Okay, I'm still alive.
48:17
One more to go. You got, well, you got one more
48:20
strike, or two more correct answers.
48:23
I would hope Bob was there strike three?
48:28
All right man. All right, I can't believe Bob
48:32
got snubbed like okay Uncle Wally sure Telly.
48:38
I mean technically he didn't even exist when gorgeous is a
48:40
got married. But he just wasn't on the call
48:45
sheet that day. That's all he was too busy
48:48
watching television at that time.
48:49
Here's everyone who was there, okay?
48:52
So you have Oscar. Hmm, Maria mr.
48:56
Macintosh Willie, the hot dog, man.
49:01
Of course, you know Bob but Willie the hot dog, man.
49:05
Well, he had to sell hot dogs at the wedding.
49:07
He was catering, if Sully was on the organ and then there was
49:13
like four kids but I wanted if there were only three Muppets
49:18
and they were Oscar Biff and Sully.
49:21
Yes, And of those characters, only Oscar lived on Sesame
49:30
Street. When that flashback would have
49:33
been, I guess? Yeah.
49:35
Maria wasn't around yet. Yeah.
49:37
Because we assume Gordon and Susan got married before.
49:40
Season one, right there, husband and wife.
49:43
They're presented as husband wife and season one.
49:45
Yeah, so all of those other characters were added in like
49:49
season 3 or later. I think Willie was around in
49:54
season 2, but they didn't give him a name yet, but yeah, yeah.
49:57
Okay weird, good luck? Yeah, no, that's fair.
50:01
All right, so Shane you get 10 points as well.
50:06
Jolly good, bringing our score. As we move into the final round,
50:12
this is very close. So the suspense is killing me.
50:16
I'm just happy to be here as we move in to the final round.
50:21
This wasn't the final round. No, stumping me was not the
50:23
final round. Oh, it was the penultimate
50:27
round. Our final round is the
50:30
high-stakes game. We call say the word in this
50:34
round. You can wager any amount of
50:37
points, right? I'm going to ask a question and
50:41
then you will be able to bet any number of points.
50:44
And answer the question. It works the same as Final
50:47
Jeopardy, except Final, Jeopardy isn't the name of a Cess Ami
50:52
Street game show. So I did not use it.
50:55
So again, you can wager any number of points.
50:57
Well, how many points do you each have Scott, you have 59
51:03
points and Shane, you have 62 points, very narrow.
51:11
So, unlike Final Jeopardy. I will ask the question before
51:15
you guys bet your points. So, I'm going to ask the
51:18
question now. Merchandise has always been a
51:21
big part Of Sesame Street or at least, not at first, but pretty
51:27
quickly after the show began, weirdly enough, not counting
51:31
puppets, which often were released as being part cloth and
51:37
part rubber. The first true Sesame Street,
51:41
stuffed animals were released in 1975 and were a trio of
51:47
ragdolls. One of them was earning.
51:50
One of them was Burt, but there were three characters.
51:54
Released, who was the third Sesame Street character released
52:00
as a rag doll in 1975. This is top.
52:08
I feel like it's one of two and I can't decide we have to wager
52:13
within the points that we have. Or can we you how you can only
52:16
wager what you? I wager 1 million that I've
52:19
gotta say, I can I wager like 5 billion points?
52:22
Yeah, you can only wager up to 62.
52:24
Shame? Okay.
52:26
Come on. I thought you would know
52:27
numbers. Okay?
52:31
Okay. So you guys have each submitted
52:33
an answer. Shane you bet 44 points.
52:38
Yeah, got you bet 59 points. You bet the farm.
52:42
All my points. Shane.
52:44
Would you like to share with us? What you wrote?
52:47
I wrote Big Bird Scott. Would you like to share with us?
52:53
What you wrote now that really. All right.
52:58
I will I will yeah big bird was my the other side of what I was
53:03
going to guess. Yes, but I went with Grover.
53:06
All right, Shane. Just out of curiosity.
53:08
Was there another one that you were considering was it Grover?
53:12
No. Okay.
53:13
It was, it was Mumford. It was Mumford.
53:16
Yeah, I hate to break this to you guys.
53:20
Neither of those are the right answer to this question.
53:23
If you say Farley, I'm gonna lose it, so it's not Farley, but
53:28
it is a muppet. I mentioned in the context of
53:30
Farley, is it? Betty Lou.
53:32
It is Betty Lou. Oh wow!
53:35
The first three, Sesame Street, plushies, excluding puppets.
53:39
And again, those puppets weren't Ali, very cuddly.
53:42
If you know, those old Sesame Street puppets, they were like
53:45
half a rubber, the first three Sesame, Street plush toys were
53:49
Ernie. Bert, and Betty Lou.
53:53
So this is going to be a trick. Question, considering the points
53:57
you guys have BET our final scores.
54:00
Now I have to do some math. Well, mines easy?
54:03
Yeah. Scott you have zero points
54:07
whoo-hoo. Wow.
54:08
It's like were you even playing? I don't think your answer a
54:10
single question. I slept in this whole thing.
54:13
You've got your own name wrong, that's true.
54:18
And Shane, you are today's Champion and today's toughest
54:23
Pig with a score of 18 points. Whoo!
54:28
Have I set a record yet for like the lowest winning score?
54:31
Yes. All right.
54:34
Congratulations Shane. You get your choice of prizes so
54:39
you get to choose one of two prizes, right?
54:42
The first is two tickets to the sleaze brother.
54:47
Funfair and your second choice. And hold on, let me just it's an
54:52
invisible gorilla. Know your second choice is these
54:56
two matching, magnets of Guy, Smiley and Don music.
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I know they can't see them but man, those are so good.
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Well, let me weigh the options here on the one hand.
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If I go to the fun fair, I'll at least get to ride a ferris
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wheel. I'll see a blue bird of
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happiness. But they'll steal my apple and
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that's that's not cool. Weirdly enough everybody there
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is a twin watch the movie if you're not sure about this it
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happened. That's true, that's true.
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I don't have a twin. I don't think I'm allowed to go
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so by default. I guess I have to take the
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magnets. Well, these guys basically have
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a twin and it's each other. So yeah, I will.
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I will make sure that you get these magnets Shane and Scott,
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thank you so much for playing soldier.
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That brings us to the end of another one Scott Shane.
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Where can people find you? If you wish to be found Scott,
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let's start with you. I treat at Muppet Wiki.
55:56
It's a great Twitter account. One of my one of my all-time
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favorites. Thank you.
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You always manage to somehow, find a way to tie, whatever the
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news of the day is into. I don't know, some sort of like
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calendar page from 1977. And it's great Shane.
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Where can people find you on the internet?
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I'm all over the place. So I have I have personal
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accounts if you want to follow those.
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I'm like Instagram and Twitter at sock drawer, which is s.
56:28
Okay, drawer. I'm also sock drawer on
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letterboxed, which is something. I know that Ryan and Anthony
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have been mentioning and all of their podcast recently.
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I am not very, I'm not very good at it, but I am there.
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Want to follow and see me review movies poorly.
56:46
I have to start all letterboxed because they do but like, I
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don't think anybody wants to know that.
56:53
Literally all I'm watching is all nine Fast, and Furious
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movies back to back to back. Well, that's the last thing.
57:01
I watched also, I run one Muppet ational shot on Twitter which
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you can follow at at one Muppet shot because Additional would
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not fit. Or Twitter feed.
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Thank you. Oh yeah, another wonderful one.
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Another the shots you know, remind me sometimes that we
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don't talk enough about how well this stuff is directed and
57:26
staged and stuff like that. Like that, that shot you did
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recently when this was being recorded of Piggy and Kermit
57:34
Piggy and Kermit sweating. And it was like, oh yeah, that's
57:36
like that's right. Gorgeous shot that I never
57:38
really think about being like such a gorgeous you know piece
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of camera where it's hard for me to find the balance between
57:44
Gunshots that are like, legitimately have good Meson
57:48
send and all that and then just utter nonsense visual gags like
57:52
Bert with no, no sir. Yeah, so many good shots on
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that. It's a cinematic Masterpiece,
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that one, intermission. And Shane, of course, like we
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said, you're on tough pigs. You're one of the contributors
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58:15
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