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Club 520 x Hennessy - Jeff Teague & Baron Davis on BEATING Dirk’s Mavericks, Kobe Bryant playing in Drew League · Club 520 Podcast

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Speaker 1: The volume. Yo, yo, yo, what's going on? It's going on,
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Speaker 1: make some noise. He see arena Club five twenty. What's
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Speaker 1: going on out here? First time in the YA area.
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Speaker 1: Appreciate the love San Francisco being holding down out here.
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Speaker 1: You know what it is? Club five to twenty podcast
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Speaker 1: Live in Hennessy Arena. I'm the host. My name is
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Speaker 1: DJ Wells. We got a special guest. We got a legend.
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Speaker 1: To my far left, we gonna introduce my man's lest
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Speaker 1: but to my far left, got my dog Bishop be
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Speaker 1: hearing out the Pearly shift.
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Speaker 2: How you would man.
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Speaker 3: Cool and nation less pop baby.
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Speaker 1: You know, normally my man's got on the Black forces
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Speaker 1: with the white laces. You know what I'm saying. He
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Speaker 1: switched it up because you know, on the road. But
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you gotta bring the staples out.
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Speaker 1: Let the people know how you were from the city. Man.
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Speaker 4: Nah, we're gonna get beat the appraial what you was
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Speaker 4: about thirteen fourteen.
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Speaker 1: You are with the Black forces, be there and the
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Speaker 1: contract want to respect? Okay, Yeah, we gonna were gonna
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Speaker 1: get you some.
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Speaker 3: Black force forces with the white laces. I'm gonna get
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Speaker 3: you together.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta, you gotta per form. You live, you live,
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Speaker 2: my dog. To my right, young Nacho, Young Tea, You what.
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Speaker 1: Man, I'm good man, chilling bro. Happy to be here
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Speaker 1: with a legend, one of my favorite players growing up.
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Speaker 1: You know I have four favorite players. It was Jay Will,
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Speaker 1: Alan Iverson, Beatty, and Gilbert Arena. So this is it
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Speaker 1: means a lot to me. Right here for sure for show.
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Speaker 1: But to my left, we got a legend. You know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the man who went crazy, one of
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Speaker 1: the reason why this wonderful fan base for this team
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Speaker 1: is even available to cheer for this team or Hooper
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Speaker 1: creative Andy Y also making music. We got the doll
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Speaker 1: Baron Davis, a legend from California. And to Bill and
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Speaker 1: appreciate you pull it out the five twenty Big Dog
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Speaker 1: Show for show.
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Speaker 5: This ship, this shit is on by twenty years up. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: I got Yeah, I got the I got the pie. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: I got the convos cracking.
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Speaker 1: Appreciate, appreciate the show man, appreciate you already started to
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Speaker 1: showing an interesting question.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We know what you did
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Speaker 2: that and that Warriors Jersey.
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Speaker 1: But before you got there, you had one of the
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Speaker 1: best jerseys of all time. The people know in the hood,
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Speaker 1: it's like that Mike Vic jersey, that number one Charlotte jersey. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we want to talk about that time before you came
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Speaker 1: here and did your thing here, because that's a very
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Speaker 1: important time in basketball and people don't know about don't
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Speaker 1: speaking enough about you coming out in the draft going
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Speaker 1: crazy like that.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was, Uh, it was wild, you know because
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Speaker 5: I'm from LA born and raised and I never had
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Speaker 5: my own room, right, so growing up I slept in
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Speaker 5: the living room.
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Speaker 3: Then I'm like, all right, I get to.
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Speaker 5: College and may UCLA man Earl Watson my roommate, so
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Speaker 5: we got to share a room. And when I got
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Speaker 5: to Charlotte, that was my first time like having something
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Speaker 5: by myself. And so I always say Charlotte was a
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Speaker 5: Bible Belt. It was like the perfect place for me
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Speaker 5: to go coming from LA going into the league at
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Speaker 5: that time, you.
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Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
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Speaker 5: And it was like, damn, dude, it ain't really nothing
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Speaker 5: to do here, but who go to the gym, go
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Speaker 5: to the mall, go to the movies. So I go
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Speaker 5: to the movies like three four times a day because
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Speaker 5: I want shit to do.
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: Change now. It's crazy now, Charlotte.
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Speaker 5: I wish it was like it was now back then,
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Speaker 5: you know, because it's cracking down. But you know, just
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Speaker 5: being on that team, you know, you got Anthony Mason,
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Speaker 5: Derek Coleman, Elden Campbell, it was like a big man league.
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Speaker 3: Come out.
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Speaker 5: You got to throw the ball in, you know, got
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Speaker 5: to throw the ball in the post to start the game.
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Speaker 5: Everything happened in the post, slow down basketball. And I
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Speaker 5: came off the bench my rookie year, I was.
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Speaker 3: A third pick. I was a third pick. I came
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Speaker 3: off the bench.
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Speaker 5: That's because Silos was a coach and he was like
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Speaker 5: I mean, back then, it was a thing where no
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Speaker 5: matter where you were as a rookie, like coaches didn't
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Speaker 5: play rookies, and like that was we were just getting
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Speaker 5: into like high pick franchise players starting. You only had
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Speaker 5: a few, you know what I mean. Kobe came off
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Speaker 5: the bench, you know what I'm saying. So it was
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Speaker 5: just a time of like the older era. It was
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Speaker 5: like a transition era. But for me, it was like
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Speaker 5: an opportunity to like start being a man, you know
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Speaker 5: what I mean. But also it was humbling because I
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Speaker 5: was playing like Don was playing nineteen minutes a game.
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Speaker 5: No more than that shit. I wish nineteen minutes a game, Dog,
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Speaker 5: And I'm just sitting there like hot. You're watching Iverson
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Speaker 5: go off. You watch Jason Terry go off, Andre Miller.
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Speaker 5: I didn't make the rookie game. It was actually here,
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Speaker 5: the rookie sophomore game. Rookie sophomore game was here, and
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Speaker 5: I missed that shit. And I just remember sitting that home,
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Speaker 5: like dog. I will never miss another one of these,
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, all Star weekends. And then
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Speaker 5: it helped me work on my game though, you know,
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Speaker 5: because back then you have to like pass the ball on.
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Speaker 3: The post spot up and shoot. That was it, bro.
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Speaker 3: If you play passaball on the post cut through.
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Speaker 1: You know, I played with Joe Johnson. You know I
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Speaker 1: read straight to the corner, and that's just bad. It's
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Speaker 1: interesting to say that I was gonna say this play,
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Speaker 1: but like you said, that time period, obviously you and
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Speaker 1: Kobe both had to sit behind Eddie Jones and start
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Speaker 1: off your stuff. How is it now seeing guards come
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Speaker 1: into the league now and getting keys the franchises, and
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Speaker 1: now you got a league where guards are encouraged score
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Speaker 1: like to see your game, especially like your game, Like
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Speaker 1: how y'all would have fit now coming into the league,
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Speaker 1: having the keys do whatever you want to.
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Speaker 3: Man, shit.
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Speaker 5: Be crazy, right, it'll be crazy. It'll be crazy, you
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Speaker 5: know it would for me. I think I would have
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Speaker 5: had a different mentality coming into the league because coming
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Speaker 5: in at that time, it was like you got to
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Speaker 5: be the best traditional point guard you could, so no
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Speaker 5: matter what I could do, dunk all that other shit,
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Speaker 5: you know, pass like they just wanted you to like
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Speaker 5: play basketball fundamentally sound, don't turn the ball over, bring
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Speaker 5: the ball up, passing the wing, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 5: So you look at these dudes getting drafted and be like,
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Speaker 5: here go to the ball. Everybody else gonna follow you.
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Speaker 5: You can shoot as much as you want, you can
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Speaker 5: make turnovers, like there's no like high esteem for fundamentals
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Speaker 5: or highest steam for like turnovers and things like that,
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So the freedom allow a
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Speaker 5: lot of these kids now to just playing their talent,
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Speaker 5: and so I didn't even know what my full talent
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Speaker 5: range was to like my third fourth to my third
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Speaker 5: fourth year, when you like, fuck it, I'm going for
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Speaker 5: All Star. I'm showing what I can do, you know
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Speaker 5: what I mean, instead of coming in and being like, hey,
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Speaker 5: show that's what you can do, like we're gonna rock
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Speaker 5: with you. You know it was it'd be way different.
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Speaker 3: Did they like you rock that third year or did
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Speaker 3: you have to really earn it like the third year
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Speaker 3: I did.
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Speaker 5: I did real good my third year, like I believe,
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Speaker 5: like may As Burn was hurt, I make the All
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Speaker 5: Star Game, but it was Vince Carter and he got injured.
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Speaker 5: But Vince Carter was such a real one. He hadn't
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Speaker 5: played like the whole season he was watching. He was like, man,
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Speaker 5: no way, I'm playing in the All Star Game, you
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Speaker 5: know what I mean? And it was like he was hurt.
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Speaker 5: So then that's how I got the call. That was
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Speaker 5: my first All Star Game.
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Speaker 3: Shouts to Vince. That's Reale, Yah, Vince, my dog.
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Speaker 1: I always tell them if I got hinted the ball
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Speaker 1: when I was a rookie, this podcast would have been
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Speaker 1: based out of Miami, it would have been based out
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Speaker 1: of India.
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Speaker 2: I would have been on food. I would have been
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Speaker 2: living on the beat.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Crazy, But I always tell him that, because man, I
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Speaker 1: had to come in a row. I played after Mike Bibbie,
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Speaker 1: so I had to learn how he played. He was
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Speaker 1: more of a traditional point guard. He scored, but more traditional.
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Speaker 1: And I came out of college shooting fifteen sixteen shots
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Speaker 1: a game.
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Speaker 2: So coming killer college, you know, I appreciate that.
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Speaker 1: But coming and passing the ball, going to the corner,
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Speaker 1: I ain't know what to do. But like you said,
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Speaker 1: if you had a different opportunity, it'll be a whole
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Speaker 1: different story.
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Speaker 2: I think, yeah.
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Speaker 5: And you know I played with BIV too. You know,
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Speaker 5: it is a funny deal. One of the best teammates
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Speaker 5: I've ever had. Due I never seen some dude like
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Speaker 5: I was bigger than Mike. I was, damn there, bigger
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Speaker 5: than Mike Baby my whole career. Like he was, he
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Speaker 5: was big, you know, he had he had, he had
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Speaker 5: size on eiven it. And then you look at Mike Bibby.
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Speaker 5: Now he grab you. He can grab you like this
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Speaker 5: and pick you up like w W bro credible Hulk muscles.
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Speaker 2: Mike sho wear Black Forces every day. He called. He
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Speaker 2: called me the other day.
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Speaker 1: I told him, Bro, you might as well go pro wrestling, bro.
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Speaker 5: Man.
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Speaker 1: But obviously, man, you did your thing with the hornets.
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Speaker 1: And then you got the opportunity. You know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: come play in the bay. How was it your first
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Speaker 1: transition coming from a new team, new situation, and obviously
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Speaker 1: came into a new situation, new coach, but then Don
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Speaker 1: Nelson came. How was that transition? Like you said, getting
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Speaker 1: able to actually do your thing. You was already established
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Speaker 1: with your game. Now you got to just really show
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Speaker 1: everybody how good you was.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it was crazy because I was. It was
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Speaker 3: in New Orleans.
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Speaker 5: So the team moved from Charlotte to New Orleans and
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Speaker 5: then you know, New Orleans was like, oh we got
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Speaker 5: a basketball team, like win the games, you know what
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Speaker 5: I mean. We have to like pass out flyers and
9:03
Speaker 5: ship you know, going to the game, like pass out tickets,
9:06
Speaker 5: tickets out the windows, so people you know, doing many
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Speaker 5: gros catch them and come to the game. So coming
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Speaker 5: from New Orleans, I was already.
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Speaker 2: Like tickets with the beas is crazy, you know that.
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Speaker 5: Basically, Thank god? It was crazy. You have to fight
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Speaker 5: for so much attention in the city. Then you go
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Speaker 5: to the Saints game and it's like the whole New
9:28
Speaker 5: Orleans come to the game. But like for us, it
9:30
Speaker 5: was wild because people wouldn't really like it was in
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Speaker 5: the basketball, but basketball wasn't like like a thing, and
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Speaker 5: uh and then I had a lot of controversy leaving
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Speaker 5: New Orleans.
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Speaker 2: A lot of controversial disagreement.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of disagreements. Hey, bro, I had a
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Speaker 5: lot of shit going on when I.
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Speaker 3: Was leaving New Orleans.
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Speaker 5: So so when I got here, I was like, man,
9:53
Speaker 5: I get a chance to turn my life around, you
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Speaker 5: know what I mean? And uh, malaya homies alone, you
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Speaker 5: know what I mean. I'm gonna leave all extracurriculars along.
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Speaker 5: And I got another chance to come and hoop. I
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Speaker 5: walk in the first day to go to stay Worried
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Speaker 5: of practice, I'm like, damn, dude, who died in this
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Speaker 5: in this monthfucking you know what I mean? Like nobody
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Speaker 5: was talking to each other, dude. Soon as practice was over,
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Speaker 5: everybody took one or two shots and got up out
10:20
Speaker 5: of there. And I was like, damn, like, you know,
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Speaker 5: this like a walking corpse, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 5: And so all I wanted to do when I came
10:27
Speaker 5: here was like, Giddy's do some some energy.
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
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Speaker 5: Let him know, like, like, damn dog, we got we
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Speaker 5: got a chance to hoop no matter what you got
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Speaker 5: going on with the coach management, like let's just go hoop,
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Speaker 5: and like that's our therapy, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 5: And so it start it started turning around, you know
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Speaker 5: what I mean. When I got here, uh, and then
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Speaker 5: it was lit.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 5: We had won like seven games to finish the season,
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Speaker 5: seven games in a row. And then I think people
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Speaker 5: in the city just was like, fuck it, we start
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Speaker 5: believing it, you know what I mean, They start believing
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Speaker 5: that we could be something, because they always did, like
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Speaker 5: every year Warrior fans they were like, fuck it, we're
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Speaker 5: gonna be good. Until they wasn't, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 5: But they still showed up to the games, you know
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Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So, like the whole the whole journey
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Speaker 5: was like, man, it was packed. From the time I
11:17
Speaker 5: checked in my first game off the bench, it was
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Speaker 5: it was packed already.
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Speaker 3: It was already cracking.
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Speaker 5: And so I was like, damn we got I'm coming
11:24
Speaker 5: from New Orleans, you know, we struggling to get ten
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Speaker 5: thousand people, eight thousand people the year before in Charlotte
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Speaker 5: bro We're in the playoffs playing New Jersey second round.
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Speaker 3: There was five thousand people.
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Speaker 2: It's crazy.
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Speaker 3: The arena sid twenty two thousand people.
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Speaker 2: Here, Bro, it was wild, y'all was playing kidd.
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Speaker 5: Brobably had five thousand people that I played game game.
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Speaker 3: Crazy.
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Speaker 5: Had no home court advantage at all like that. Last
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Speaker 5: year was like once one christ one game around Christmas
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Speaker 5: is snow. It was like a thousand people if that
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Speaker 5: in the arena, that's crazy.
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Speaker 3: You can hear ship.
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Speaker 5: Like you can hear people having conversations, you know what
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Speaker 5: I mean, Like it was cold.
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Speaker 1: I tell you a story we had on our podcast before,
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Speaker 1: so he said, that's about the NBA game One time.
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Speaker 1: He said he was eating chicken chicken fingers and he
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Speaker 1: ran out of something. He told his cousin across the court, like, hey.
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Speaker 2: Grab some more.
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Speaker 6: Don't laughing shout out to This is about you can't
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Speaker 6: do it. A few games, parking them tickets don't win
12:37
Speaker 6: up three times.
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Speaker 3: So, but when did this start turning around in Golden
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Speaker 3: State for you? It didn't. I mean it was like
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Speaker 3: the lot. Wait no, it didn't.
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Speaker 5: Like to be honest around now, I'm telling you, Bro,
12:50
Speaker 5: everybody here knows the story. The next year we end
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Speaker 5: the season, I'm back to back Player of the Week
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Speaker 5: so I'm like, oh ship, I'm feeling good, Like I'm
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Speaker 5: back in my groove, and they fucking with me, you
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Speaker 5: know what I mean, I can do whatever I want.
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Speaker 3: Jay Rich Kracking.
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Speaker 5: We figure it out, get to the end of the season,
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Speaker 5: everybody leave on a good note. Come back in the
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Speaker 5: training camp. We got a whole year with Mike Montgomery. Man,
13:18
Speaker 5: that ain't gonna work.
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. That wasn't gonna work.
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Speaker 5: So we went back to you know, he thought that,
13:26
Speaker 5: you know, college coaches. He thought that, like he needed
13:29
Speaker 5: to have control and like teach and teach, and we're like, man,
13:33
Speaker 5: you ain't teaching us nothing.
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Speaker 3: We already know how to play basketball. Let us play basketball.
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Speaker 5: So the next year came back and then we kind
13:39
Speaker 5: of was like hovering and struggling under Mike Montgomery, you
13:44
Speaker 5: know what I mean. And so it was like we
13:46
Speaker 5: made a bad draft pick, you know, like we kept
13:48
Speaker 5: making bad draft picks.
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Speaker 3: You know I say that.
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Speaker 5: So we wasn't getting better in the draft, you know
13:53
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like we.
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Speaker 3: Wasn't getting better in the draft. You know, man, they're
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Speaker 3: not real, you know what I mean. Dunleavy was beefing
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Speaker 3: with the fans. You know what I'm saying, It's crazy.
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Speaker 5: It was the wildest shit ever, dude, because Mike Dunley
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Speaker 5: is a great teammate. He a great dude. He want
14:11
Speaker 5: to win. And it was just like it was almost
14:14
Speaker 5: like the other team bought tickets for plants and they
14:18
Speaker 5: thought that they were Warrior fans, but they'd just be like,
14:21
Speaker 5: fuck you, don't leave, fuck you too, Like no, don't
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Speaker 5: leave alone alone, man like dany focus on the games.
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Speaker 1: Be a Minnesota That's how I was in Minnesota area.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I say, you know, it's tough. I
14:34
Speaker 3: went through that. I went through that in New Orleans.
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Speaker 3: That's how I got traded.
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Speaker 5: I was sitting on the bench and hurt, and I'm
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Speaker 5: watching Dan dickout kill and I'm watching the crowd go crazy.
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Speaker 3: Like I'm like, dd, we two and twenty? What the fuck?
14:49
Speaker 5: Like you got to man like we two and twenty?
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Speaker 5: I don't care, you know what I mean? But they
14:55
Speaker 5: was boring me. I wasn't even playing in New Orleans.
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Speaker 5: They got it got to that point. But like we
15:00
Speaker 5: had a lot of like it was just ups and downs,
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Speaker 5: ups and downs, and we couldn't like we couldn't turn
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Speaker 5: the corner. They fire Mike Montgomery. Then they bring in
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Speaker 5: Don Nelson. Yes, Sir don Nelson come, Remember Dwan Wagner,
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Speaker 5: Dwan Wagner Monte.
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Speaker 1: We got a guy from our city named Andre Owens.
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Speaker 1: He came and tried.
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Speaker 5: Tried out, so we like we had a little little
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Speaker 5: warrior makeup, you know what I mean. Don Levy was cool.
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Speaker 5: Troy Murphy was kind of like, you know, you see
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Speaker 5: everybody laughing. He was, you know, like you know when
15:38
Speaker 5: a player is like he done. He was done here
15:42
Speaker 5: he needed like he was a good player, he was
15:45
Speaker 5: a double double.
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Speaker 3: But it was just like he he was he was drained. Bro.
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Speaker 5: It was like he had you know, you gotta think
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Speaker 5: Jay Rich, Don Levy, Troy Murphy, Donald Foyle. They had
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Speaker 5: seven coaches. They had like seven coaches before I got there,
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Speaker 5: So like you can imagine, like damn, we got another coach.
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Speaker 5: I don't care who the coach is. Like, man, we
16:06
Speaker 5: got another coach. What are we doing now? So it
16:08
Speaker 5: was like we won't going. We was hovering and we
16:11
Speaker 5: was cool, but we didn't have like we didn't had
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Speaker 5: a juice. And I remember Chris Mullen came to me.
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Speaker 5: It was like, man, we're gonna try to make this right.
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Speaker 5: We're gonna try to get this right, and was nothing happening,
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And so towards the end
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Speaker 5: of the trade deadline, it was almost like they came in.
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Speaker 5: It was like Stephen Jackson, Al Herring. I was like, oh,
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Speaker 5: hell yeah, we cracking now, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Murphy said, Troy and dun Levy, uh like Diago, Yeah, we're.
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Speaker 5: Still thinking that track. We should have tried to keep
16:45
Speaker 5: done Levy. We would have been all right, Like he
16:48
Speaker 5: was like a missing piece for us in the like
16:50
Speaker 5: in that we believe it when you think about what
16:52
Speaker 5: we needed.
16:54
Speaker 3: But we make the trade right.
16:56
Speaker 5: Everybody like, ah shit, yeah the homies here, Hey do
16:59
Speaker 5: We was getting my ass booked.
17:02
Speaker 3: Everybody know, we was getting our ass well. We still
17:04
Speaker 3: was like.
17:05
Speaker 5: Couldn't get over the hump, you know what I mean.
17:07
Speaker 5: We couldn't get over the hump. And then Nelly was like,
17:11
Speaker 5: all right, well, ship, I see what I got, you
17:13
Speaker 5: know what I mean? Like fucking We'll just wait to
17:15
Speaker 5: next year. And it was like not even halfway during this.
17:24
Speaker 2: I coached high school. I did this year.
17:27
Speaker 3: We let him get to the city and get comfortable.
17:31
Speaker 3: Ro Sol No.
17:34
Speaker 5: Na bron comfortable. Let's take No, it wasn't some new houses,
17:42
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
17:43
Speaker 3: Hit the ruck.
17:44
Speaker 5: We had went on the road, you know what I mean.
17:46
Speaker 5: So we had went on the road. So we was
17:48
Speaker 5: on the road just like struggling. And then I got
17:51
Speaker 5: hurt right before all start weekend and ship. We was
17:57
Speaker 5: just hummering, hummering. And then after all start, I remember
18:00
Speaker 5: we had a team meeting. We had lost to Washington.
18:03
Speaker 5: Gil had hit two free throws and we had a
18:05
Speaker 5: team meeting, and I was like, man, if y'all motherfuckers
18:08
Speaker 5: want to party. I throw a party at my birthday
18:11
Speaker 5: end of the season. But we got to start partying
18:13
Speaker 5: on the court, you know what I mean. So like
18:15
Speaker 5: if we make the court our party in our club,
18:19
Speaker 5: and shit, I go out every night, We'll go out.
18:21
Speaker 3: But we had never.
18:22
Speaker 5: Really like before that Dune, Levy, Jay Rich, Troy Murphy
18:28
Speaker 5: and Donald Foyle like that crew. They never hung out
18:32
Speaker 5: with Stack and Matt Stack and Matt, Stephen Jackson, Doyln
18:39
Speaker 5: Harrington and we already had Matt. So like when they came,
18:42
Speaker 5: it was like now everybody had people to hang out
18:45
Speaker 5: with and then the young dudes wanted to hang out,
18:47
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, because it was like, now
18:48
Speaker 5: you got real NBA stories, you know what I mean,
18:51
Speaker 5: Stack telling stories down Harrington telling stories, you know what
18:54
Speaker 5: I mean. And so that kind of like built that
18:57
Speaker 5: little camaraderie. Then after that Washington game, I came back,
19:01
Speaker 5: we played Detroit and everybody thought it was gonna get
19:04
Speaker 5: our ass whoop and we beat the ship out of him,
19:07
Speaker 5: and it wasn't. It wasn't like a game where it's like, oh,
19:10
Speaker 5: we beat them, you know what I mean.
19:12
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, we gotta go.
19:13
Speaker 5: And it was like, nah, they can't fuck with us,
19:16
Speaker 5: Like we can fuck with them, you know what I mean,
19:18
Speaker 5: Like we can match up good against Detroit was like
19:21
Speaker 5: one of the best teams in the league. And after
19:23
Speaker 5: that we was like, ship, if we can beat Detroit,
19:26
Speaker 5: we can beat anybody's turn around.
19:29
Speaker 3: That was it. That was it.
19:30
Speaker 5: But it was it happened because we was like, all right,
19:33
Speaker 5: fuck it if we you know, everybody giving up on us,
19:36
Speaker 5: If we're gonna party, We're gonna party on the court.
19:38
Speaker 5: And then after the game, if we win, we going out.
19:42
Speaker 5: We went out every night every night I was like, God,
19:48
Speaker 5: I believe that's what we start doing with. It was
19:56
Speaker 5: the wildest ship because we was We was like a
19:59
Speaker 5: rap group. He was like the Wu Tang going to
20:01
Speaker 5: like we played and then we go to the club.
20:03
Speaker 5: Motherfuckers like damn this Wu Tang.
20:05
Speaker 3: Death ro bad Boy whatever. It was like.
20:08
Speaker 5: We was cracking y'all. Every city, it didn't matter what
20:11
Speaker 5: city it was, was going to the club, was taking
20:15
Speaker 5: over the club up drinking, got the hand going yes, sir,
20:20
Speaker 5: and then if I drink, I'm going to go grab
20:23
Speaker 5: the mic so I would take you. That's where the
20:27
Speaker 5: rapperd career started. Take DJ you know what I mean?
20:31
Speaker 5: And who knows you know what I mean? Everybody was.
20:36
Speaker 5: Everybody was in firing range when I got the mic.
20:39
Speaker 4: Yeah, but in serious no, I think for real, that's
20:42
Speaker 4: what helps teams come together when y'all hang out off
20:44
Speaker 4: the court. Chemistry, Yeah, that chemistry mission like, well, when
20:48
Speaker 4: y'all get on the court for sure.
20:49
Speaker 5: So I'll probably say y'all team was like that. Y'all
20:52
Speaker 5: look like you know that Joe Johnson.
20:54
Speaker 2: We went out every day.
20:55
Speaker 3: Turn my boy out.
21:02
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it.
21:04
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it right time, I'm gonna keep it
21:07
Speaker 1: cool at home something pocket.
21:10
Speaker 6: But that's what you know, Hey, put you on the game.
21:21
Speaker 2: Now, we went out of every city.
21:22
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't a gentleman's club that I didn't
21:25
Speaker 1: know about that way for sure. So obviously, man, y'all
21:30
Speaker 1: get it together going the season and then you get
21:32
Speaker 1: into the playoffs and that's what the magic happens. Like
21:35
Speaker 1: it's very rare that you see. Obviously that was a
21:36
Speaker 1: historic situation. You know what I'm saying, y'all be in
21:38
Speaker 1: the ABC beating the one seed, but like y'all wasn't say
21:41
Speaker 1: that match up very confident, and you can tell it
21:43
Speaker 1: wasn't like, oh, we're about to get them. It's like, nah,
21:45
Speaker 1: we got this handled. And y'all was playing against Dirt.
21:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, we had beat them like six six games in
21:50
Speaker 5: a row, and we had beat them with Troy Murphy,
21:55
Speaker 5: Mike Murphy, Donald Foyle, Jay Rich, and so we had
22:00
Speaker 5: beat him with that squad I had at the time.
22:03
Speaker 5: I don't even think I had played against Dallas. Shit, damn,
22:06
Speaker 5: because I missed I was I missed a couple of games.
22:09
Speaker 5: Jay Rich hit a buzzer beat or something like that
22:11
Speaker 5: in Dallas. But for some strange reason, when you look
22:14
Speaker 5: at Golden State versus Dallas, we had their number.
22:18
Speaker 3: So when we came into the playoffs, like.
22:22
Speaker 5: I never forget the first day of practice, I had
22:25
Speaker 5: never seen Nelly move so fast, talk so fast. Like
22:28
Speaker 5: it was like hold on, like this a whole new dude.
22:30
Speaker 5: He was like, yoh, I know how to beat him.
22:32
Speaker 5: Shut the fuck up, do what I tell you. And
22:35
Speaker 5: if you do it every time, I don't care what happened.
22:38
Speaker 5: If you do it every time, we're gonna win. And
22:41
Speaker 5: he knew, you know, he grew Dirk room, Josh Howard,
22:46
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. He put that team together
22:49
Speaker 5: that was really like his team, and he gave it
22:51
Speaker 5: Tabuy Johnson. So we knew that Dirk was gonna dribble
22:56
Speaker 5: right and spend, or dribble left and spin.
22:59
Speaker 3: You know. So time Dirk went to dribble.
23:03
Speaker 5: On that second dribble, if he was getting ready to
23:06
Speaker 5: spend and somebody wasn't there, you're getting out.
23:08
Speaker 3: You're getting out the game. You may not never go
23:09
Speaker 3: in the game again.
23:11
Speaker 5: So once we started doing that, we was really disrupting
23:15
Speaker 5: Dirk timing. So if you watch it, if you watch
23:18
Speaker 5: the games, like he was balling still, but.
23:20
Speaker 3: He couldn't get comfortable, you know what.
23:24
Speaker 5: You know how it is, it's like, man, I'm scoring,
23:26
Speaker 5: but like I ain't been to my spot. He ain't
23:28
Speaker 5: got to his spot all game, you know what I mean.
23:32
Speaker 5: And then Josh Howard we had. He was the next
23:35
Speaker 5: you know, important person for them because he was like
23:37
Speaker 5: they glue guy scoring door and he went left all
23:42
Speaker 5: the time left, all his game was left. So we
23:46
Speaker 5: was like, don't let him go left. Jason Terry couldn't
23:49
Speaker 5: go left, he went right right, you know what I mean.
23:52
Speaker 5: So it was just like everything was just precise, it
23:56
Speaker 5: was detailed, and he was like, we're gonna beat these dudes.
24:00
Speaker 5: He said it the first day. He said, We're gonna
24:01
Speaker 5: beat him. It's what you're gonna do. Stay humble in
24:04
Speaker 5: the media, don't say nothing. Always get him praise, and
24:07
Speaker 5: just act like we're lucky, you know what I mean,
24:10
Speaker 5: Just act like we're lucky. But we had their number
24:13
Speaker 5: because on the other end, it was just hard for
24:17
Speaker 5: them to match up. Right if they tried to play
24:20
Speaker 5: a match up, which they did, which we didn't think
24:22
Speaker 5: they were gonna do. The first game was the dictator
24:25
Speaker 5: because they took the dude out the starting lineup, Damn Pierre.
24:32
Speaker 3: They took the big dude out.
24:34
Speaker 5: But you know, and he played against he played here
24:37
Speaker 5: for the Warriors, so you take him out the lineup
24:40
Speaker 5: like he looking for revenge. He got drafted here and
24:43
Speaker 5: then when he was in the game, like he was
24:45
Speaker 5: duncan you know what I mean, that's six eight easy.
24:48
Speaker 3: Points for him.
24:50
Speaker 5: But when they took him out the lineup, we was like,
24:52
Speaker 5: oh shit, like, yeah, they trying.
24:55
Speaker 3: To play our game, you know what I mean. It
24:57
Speaker 3: ain't gonna work like that.
25:02
Speaker 2: But y'all think y'all started the small ball.
25:05
Speaker 3: Oh shit, I don't know. I mean it was already started,
25:10
Speaker 3: like you know from from history, tell your story. He
25:14
Speaker 3: just wanted no.
25:15
Speaker 1: I think they started the small ball because I think
25:17
Speaker 1: they like they took Damn Pier out like we started
25:20
Speaker 1: the three point shooting ship.
25:21
Speaker 2: Don't worry about small ball.
25:23
Speaker 1: They started that, bro, because they took they took like
25:26
Speaker 1: you said, took dam Pier out the game. They tried
25:27
Speaker 1: to match up with them when they play the game.
25:29
Speaker 1: Now you got bad going at Dirk and all these dudes,
25:32
Speaker 1: and it's like it ain't hering.
25:33
Speaker 2: Player the five like the revolutionary with that.
25:36
Speaker 5: I mean, I think a lot of times when you're
25:39
Speaker 5: balling like that, the announcers say, oh, they're just out
25:42
Speaker 5: there playing, they don't, you know what I mean. It's
25:44
Speaker 5: like street balls, you man, high intellectual basketball move that
25:50
Speaker 5: fast to be thinking like that, be all thinking on
25:53
Speaker 5: what the cord. You gotta have some intelligent people, you
25:56
Speaker 5: know what I mean. And so I think for us,
25:59
Speaker 5: if you watch, I would say, we didn't start small ball,
26:02
Speaker 5: but we started like Mitch match basketball.
26:06
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. You got me.
26:07
Speaker 5: Stack, al Matt Barnes, Jay Rich out there a mante
26:11
Speaker 5: me Jay Rich Stack and you know what I mean.
26:15
Speaker 5: And Matt and what we started realizing was basketball is
26:22
Speaker 5: every team has one or two really good players. You
26:25
Speaker 5: gotta worry about the third and the fourth guy are
26:29
Speaker 5: really good too, but you know they're not They're not
26:32
Speaker 5: comfortable as those first two, you know what I mean.
26:35
Speaker 5: And so if you play to the tiers right and
26:38
Speaker 5: say like, we ain't gonna stop your main guy, We're
26:41
Speaker 5: gonna disrupt your main guy, and then the second tier
26:44
Speaker 5: and the third tier dudes, they're not getting nothing.
26:47
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
26:48
Speaker 5: Because they are more limited, you know what I mean,
26:51
Speaker 5: for what they can do for the team, you know
26:55
Speaker 5: what I mean, And they don't have as much freedom
26:57
Speaker 5: as a dirt you know what I mean, or as
26:59
Speaker 5: as KG. So we would just watch teams and be like, oh,
27:02
Speaker 5: we're playing against Boston and they got Kendrick Perkins, and
27:06
Speaker 5: KG is like, oh, yeah, we're gonna run down because
27:09
Speaker 5: anybody can guard Perk, you know what I mean.
27:13
Speaker 3: You know, but anybody on our team, like you didn't
27:16
Speaker 3: care who guarded Perk, you know what I mean, though,
27:20
Speaker 3: that can guard anybody.
27:21
Speaker 5: Let's think about it, like if Boston start posting up
27:24
Speaker 5: Kendrick Perkins to play against us, right because it's a mess,
27:28
Speaker 5: it's a mismatch, We're gonna be like, damn, that's a mismatch.
27:31
Speaker 5: So you start creating dissension, you know what I mean,
27:34
Speaker 5: Like if we don't guard Who was the center on
27:36
Speaker 5: yall team?
27:37
Speaker 3: Boy, you had a lot of them, Boylin Horford.
27:41
Speaker 4: For y'all squad, y'all was difficult to y'all couldn't guard
27:45
Speaker 4: them like y'all.
27:46
Speaker 5: No, they were matchup problems. Josh Smith, Joe Johnson was unguardable.
27:51
Speaker 5: And then this motherfucker was just fast as hell. Then
27:53
Speaker 5: you got Kyle Korver. You can't even you know what
27:55
Speaker 5: I mean.
27:56
Speaker 3: It was.
27:56
Speaker 5: It was a lot of the they got. They created
27:59
Speaker 5: a whole little They were like the US in the East.
28:03
Speaker 5: Facts like US in the East.
28:05
Speaker 2: Try to disrub Lebron.
28:06
Speaker 1: That didn't work though, Yeah you said that to Dribble
28:10
Speaker 1: Lift were there.
28:11
Speaker 2: It didn't work.
28:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was putting the wrong dudes on le Bron.
28:14
Speaker 7: We ain't have nobody supposed to. Yeah, that's the problem.
28:18
Speaker 7: That's crazy, that's the problem.
28:20
Speaker 5: You're supposed to bring the hacks in first they came
28:22
Speaker 5: into Nah Man, you're supposed to tell the hacks Ivan Johnson, Man,
28:27
Speaker 5: he can't guard a little Bron. He's supposed he's supposed
28:31
Speaker 5: to say, Ivan Johnson.
28:33
Speaker 3: You're filing out today the first half, first quartering man,
28:39
Speaker 3: Come on there, that's in his ear.
28:41
Speaker 5: Hey, I need six, I need six, I need six
28:44
Speaker 5: filets like it ain't even Yeah, I don't care what
28:52
Speaker 5: I get you a bucket.
28:57
Speaker 2: If Ivan Johnson got six fous, the game would have
28:59
Speaker 2: been only.
29:00
Speaker 5: Ain't you see Naven Johnson. We was terrified when we
29:04
Speaker 5: seen that dude come in the game.
29:06
Speaker 2: Play with a grill for real.
29:07
Speaker 5: This dude was Hey, this dude was sick. Dude, Yeah,
29:10
Speaker 5: he came in the game. Dude was like, hey, hold.
29:12
Speaker 7: On, yeah, bro, who was that?
29:17
Speaker 2: He had thirty two goals?
29:18
Speaker 3: Bro? Hey dog? He I love that. Dude was a dog.
29:23
Speaker 5: It was like he came in the game looking like
29:25
Speaker 5: hold on, man, like, like who signed him?
29:30
Speaker 2: You know the story about that showed up?
29:32
Speaker 1: He got cut, bro, and came back to practice, and
29:34
Speaker 1: they were scared to like tell him.
29:36
Speaker 2: I swear, I swear that he got cut. And they
29:39
Speaker 2: came back to practice and they was like, who's gonna
29:41
Speaker 2: tell him?
29:42
Speaker 3: The league nobody.
29:43
Speaker 1: He started practicing agetting there. Everybody was like, you.
29:45
Speaker 3: Gotta keep you in.
29:46
Speaker 5: You'll gotta keep this fire because everybody on the team
29:49
Speaker 5: was probably scared too.
29:51
Speaker 2: I didn't even go home scared.
29:55
Speaker 5: Real. Imagine if he had to tell him, like, hey, bro,
29:57
Speaker 5: don't you know think they want you?
30:03
Speaker 1: He came back, Bro, It's crazy legend, but obviously we
30:06
Speaker 1: know what you did.
30:07
Speaker 2: Y'all took care of bits.
30:07
Speaker 3: With the mask.
30:08
Speaker 1: In the next round, you had one of the most
30:10
Speaker 1: iconic legendary dunks in the NBA history. Man, how was
30:14
Speaker 1: it going against that Jazz team. But a lot of
30:15
Speaker 1: people don't understand that Jazz team was lit like it
30:17
Speaker 1: was d Will Booze. That was one of the most
30:20
Speaker 1: underrated two man games.
30:21
Speaker 2: In the league.
30:22
Speaker 5: They were real good. They were like they were a machine,
30:25
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I felt like if we
30:27
Speaker 5: could have got past Utah, we were a bad match
30:31
Speaker 5: up for San Antonio. Oh for sure, we're a bad
30:34
Speaker 5: match up for San Antonio because we can guard Tim
30:38
Speaker 5: Duncan with Beatrice and let Tim Duncan eat and then.
30:42
Speaker 3: Everybody, everybody, you know what I mean.
30:44
Speaker 5: But that boozer d Will was just like they were.
30:47
Speaker 5: They were just bigger than us, you know what I mean.
30:50
Speaker 5: And really it was like after the Dallas thing, it
30:54
Speaker 5: was like you riding a high and if you like,
30:57
Speaker 5: if you can't keep that ship going, and there was
31:00
Speaker 5: a moment where it's like two or three days and
31:02
Speaker 5: you're like, can sit and settle in, then.
31:04
Speaker 3: It's hard to get back, you know what I mean.
31:07
Speaker 5: So we had one eighteen out of twenty two to
31:10
Speaker 5: get there.
31:11
Speaker 3: Then when we got there.
31:13
Speaker 5: It was like, you know, remember the first round we
31:15
Speaker 5: won in game six, but I got kicked out game two.
31:19
Speaker 3: That got kicked out. We had the frisking thing, you
31:22
Speaker 3: know when we came home.
31:24
Speaker 5: So it was just all kind of like then I
31:26
Speaker 5: had to for door hat with the bullets.
31:27
Speaker 3: They try to get me kicked out. He was suspended.
31:31
Speaker 3: That was shit. I was saying, you know, that was
31:33
Speaker 3: NBA fashion, bro.
31:34
Speaker 5: It was like, way the playoffs coming, you know, ain't
31:37
Speaker 5: nobody really dressing up?
31:39
Speaker 1: Let me let me throw this bullet for door on.
31:41
Speaker 1: And then that was the four tunnel fits. By the way,
31:44
Speaker 1: I was like fits.
31:46
Speaker 5: And then they was complaining like, oh, this fool got
31:48
Speaker 5: live rounds in this hat.
31:50
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? He was really wildent. It
31:57
Speaker 3: was really wild with that. It was fashion. I bought it.
32:00
Speaker 2: It was hard.
32:05
Speaker 3: It wasn't like browns, it was it was hollow shells.
32:08
Speaker 1: I just want to ask you what was going through
32:10
Speaker 1: your mind when you dunked that though, because as a fan,
32:12
Speaker 1: we all was watching when you dunked it and pulled
32:15
Speaker 1: up and you'll see you had a waist trainer on.
32:17
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, damn, I nigga got
32:19
Speaker 1: a waist trainer on.
32:23
Speaker 2: They he got the first d.
32:29
Speaker 3: You got, you got one.
32:30
Speaker 5: Now you got the real with that you know you've
32:36
Speaker 5: been looking awful difference since that niggas been traveling.
32:42
Speaker 1: Shout area, and he got you right.
32:50
Speaker 3: It was a back brace shot this back.
32:53
Speaker 5: Brace, Oh my god, and Nellie used to get on
32:56
Speaker 5: us about our way, so I would put this back
32:59
Speaker 5: brace on, like get my back warm, and obviously that
33:02
Speaker 5: came around my stomach. That's when I dunked. I just pulled.
33:05
Speaker 5: I didn't know what the fuck to do. I didn't
33:07
Speaker 5: even know I made.
33:07
Speaker 3: It, you know, until I looked over the side.
33:10
Speaker 2: And dudes, was like, na, that ship was crashing.
33:13
Speaker 3: Was crazy. You couldn't hear nothing. I couldn't hear nothing.
33:16
Speaker 5: All I could see was people just stun And then
33:21
Speaker 5: that's when I was like, all right, let me, you know,
33:22
Speaker 5: let me get my walk. And then stack came. Bro,
33:25
Speaker 5: I was it was epic. It wasn't like none of
33:27
Speaker 5: none of that ship was playing. I just put my
33:29
Speaker 5: shirt up, like get in my belly because I used
33:32
Speaker 5: to play.
33:33
Speaker 3: I used to be like fat bastard.
33:35
Speaker 5: You used to say that ship in practice all the
33:36
Speaker 5: time because Nelly used to fuck with me about my way.
33:39
Speaker 2: So that ship was crazy.
33:41
Speaker 1: That's probably top five dunks, bro, especially in the playoffs.
33:45
Speaker 3: It was, it was, it was. It was cool.
33:47
Speaker 5: I knew I was gonna get him now because he
33:49
Speaker 5: winked at me to play before. Oh so you got
33:53
Speaker 5: to watch the play before because I did the same
33:55
Speaker 5: exact move and I laid it up and he was
33:58
Speaker 5: standing under the base line right there. And when I
34:01
Speaker 5: laid it up, he looked at me when he took
34:03
Speaker 5: the ball out and.
34:04
Speaker 3: He was like, all right, let me meet you. So
34:08
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm about to try this shit again.
34:10
Speaker 5: I said, if I if I get there, I'm gonna
34:12
Speaker 5: try it. But when I got and I turned the corner,
34:16
Speaker 5: he was right in the same spot. I said, man,
34:18
Speaker 5: I'm about to try this, dude. And and when I
34:22
Speaker 5: dunked it, I thought the ball had bounced up, but
34:26
Speaker 5: it was like deafinite. Everybody was just like I saw
34:29
Speaker 5: Donald Foyle, like, oh my god.
34:31
Speaker 3: I was like, shot his ass, you know what I mean.
34:34
Speaker 2: My favorite dunk you had was against Jermaine o'nil.
34:36
Speaker 3: Though.
34:38
Speaker 1: That ship was nasty. I got tap into YouTube. I
34:41
Speaker 1: ain't seen it your research one in Charlotte. It was nasty.
34:46
Speaker 5: It was fun, man, I think for me, uh like
34:50
Speaker 5: people always think that, oh he was a dunking point guard,
34:53
Speaker 5: you know, like I ain't even like I wasn't even
34:56
Speaker 5: tripping on that shit. I just like dunking because I
34:58
Speaker 5: could dunk. But I was more into like passing, you know,
35:02
Speaker 5: like the bot like trying to create my own bop.
35:05
Speaker 5: But I always get credit for like now you the
35:07
Speaker 5: first you the first exposive point guard in the league.
35:10
Speaker 1: No, but I watched you at like EBC in New
35:13
Speaker 1: York and stuff.
35:14
Speaker 3: So we I'm a fan.
35:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, I already knew you had handles, you can create,
35:18
Speaker 1: you can pass.
35:19
Speaker 2: And my my best friend back home named.
35:21
Speaker 7: Phield out the field, he like your biggest fan, like
35:25
Speaker 7: I feel you really really so he was real for real, like.
35:28
Speaker 2: He posted your hoghl like take at least once a month.
35:31
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, my nigga postline with you for
35:37
Speaker 1: really for real. But he kept like he had put
35:40
Speaker 1: me on the way you play. He like, bro, you
35:42
Speaker 1: tripped and he the best point guard because I used
35:44
Speaker 1: to like steph Ma mar Berry too. Then I was
35:46
Speaker 1: I started watching you play. I'm like, damn, I'm trying
35:49
Speaker 1: to play like that. You're throwing it around people here
35:52
Speaker 1: ship I'm like, oh yeah, this kind of ship out.
35:54
Speaker 4: Like you had the size of Ventage too though. That's
35:57
Speaker 4: why I was like, damn, this niggas a little heavy.
35:59
Speaker 2: Now I had to go for him.
36:01
Speaker 3: Bro.
36:02
Speaker 2: The first time I stepped on the court, I'm a fan.
36:04
Speaker 3: I'm looking. I'm like, I don't funk this.
36:08
Speaker 2: Want eighty at my best.
36:10
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, funk I'm guard him and you know him,
36:12
Speaker 1: he come in like what the fuck?
36:14
Speaker 2: I said, Ship, I'm trying to be hard.
36:17
Speaker 7: I don't get what what's up? I was scared to say.
36:25
Speaker 5: Same thing, bro. I think it's when you're young, you're
36:27
Speaker 5: a rookie and uh, you going up against some dude.
36:31
Speaker 5: Because I was like that with GP, and I was like, damn,
36:34
Speaker 5: this this fool got me on the block, you know
36:36
Speaker 5: what I mean. Like I was like, Yo, do whatever
36:38
Speaker 5: you do, don't let GP push you up because elbow
36:41
Speaker 5: you you know what I mean, It's like run, damn
36:45
Speaker 5: he turn his spin.
36:47
Speaker 3: Can't ask for the ball, man, I was. I was
36:50
Speaker 3: elbow called the file.
36:57
Speaker 5: Was scary, you know, when you're young and he's like, damn,
36:59
Speaker 5: that's get Damn, that's Jake Kidd.
37:01
Speaker 3: Damn, that's Iverson.
37:03
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's Malberry Stephan Marberry, did me so cold my
37:06
Speaker 5: rookie year I had just got in the game.
37:10
Speaker 3: He was hot.
37:11
Speaker 5: You go to the whole scorem and get an an one,
37:14
Speaker 5: shoot a three. He had already had like twenty four
37:16
Speaker 5: in the first half. He ain't get an an one.
37:18
Speaker 3: He's like these you can't hold me.
37:21
Speaker 5: And he was like, oh me, you know what I mean,
37:23
Speaker 5: Like in my face, Ellen, and I ain't know what
37:26
Speaker 5: to do, you know, I'm like, damn.
37:28
Speaker 3: Elvin Campbell was like, oh, you're gonna.
37:29
Speaker 7: Let him talk to you like that. It's a song
37:32
Speaker 7: after the game. I mean, like, you know, because you know,
37:37
Speaker 7: I don't I don't really be talking. I don't talk trash,
37:40
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. I'm not like out there
37:42
Speaker 7: talking trash. So my natural response is.
37:45
Speaker 5: Like, all right, dude, I'm about to close line this, dude,
37:47
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like I was just automatically mad.
37:50
Speaker 5: But it was like you just nervous playing against dudes
37:54
Speaker 5: you watch play or somebody that you heard about that
37:58
Speaker 5: you're like, damn, Like I know I watched him play,
38:01
Speaker 5: but I never played against him. Like you always got
38:03
Speaker 5: that little nervous And that's what makes the league so
38:05
Speaker 5: fun because then full circle, come back. I'm playing with
38:09
Speaker 5: the Knicks, and you know, I'm struggling at this point.
38:13
Speaker 5: I'm like older, my body breaking down, and this fun
38:17
Speaker 5: right here.
38:18
Speaker 3: He just.
38:21
Speaker 5: Like just fucking me up and talking ship the whole time.
38:24
Speaker 5: And I'm like, why is this motherfucker talking ship to me?
38:27
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
38:27
Speaker 5: Like like I ain't didn't, I don't even know this dude.
38:30
Speaker 5: I ain't even I don't know him. I ain't saying
38:33
Speaker 5: nothing to him, but he just you can't. You can't
38:36
Speaker 5: fuck with me, old ass. Get his old ass off
38:37
Speaker 5: the court. And Mellow at some point Mellow was like, hey, bro,
38:41
Speaker 5: you gotta stop let him talk to you like that.
38:44
Speaker 3: Don't trip Mellow. I'm gonna catch him in the summer.
38:51
Speaker 3: I don't know what else to do. Hey, that's why
38:53
Speaker 3: Jeff never played here.
39:00
Speaker 2: I wasn't said that. I ain't been to THEE. You're
39:06
Speaker 2: not speaking of that.
39:07
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know like your involvement behind
39:10
Speaker 1: those two things, Like for me, like Rico Haines is
39:12
Speaker 1: like a YouTube, so I look forward to.
39:13
Speaker 2: The area summer to see them runs.
39:15
Speaker 1: And then like you talk about the Drew League, Like
39:18
Speaker 1: how is that like being a part of two things
39:19
Speaker 1: is so important in basketball, Like you have your direct
39:22
Speaker 1: fingerprint on that.
39:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would think, I would say for me, Uh,
39:25
Speaker 5: when I came in the league, it was a lot
39:28
Speaker 5: of LA players, but they won't like LA famous, you
39:33
Speaker 5: know what I mean. They all went off to college
39:35
Speaker 5: and other colleges and shit like that. So for me,
39:38
Speaker 5: it was like, man, I gotta do something for the
39:40
Speaker 5: next generation, cause like LA don't get no credit. Like
39:44
Speaker 5: I'm out here and I ain't seeing it. The hommies
39:47
Speaker 5: back home is better than a lot of these dudes.
39:49
Speaker 5: So like I wanted to invest my time in the
39:54
Speaker 5: next generation, you know, James Pool, you know, uh, all
39:58
Speaker 5: them dudes, Bobby Brown, Trevor drel Right. Like, it was like, Yo,
40:02
Speaker 5: if we can create some that's dope for us in LA,
40:06
Speaker 5: then we can make LA.
40:07
Speaker 3: Like the Rutger, we got the.
40:09
Speaker 5: Drew, We got the real run over here, and so
40:12
Speaker 5: it was first like get the real run cracking, and
40:14
Speaker 5: then the Drew was like the Jew was already in
40:18
Speaker 5: the hood, so nobody was going to the Drew. I
40:20
Speaker 5: took Tyerynlu to the Jew, though I took Tlu to
40:24
Speaker 5: the Jew when he was playing for the Lakers, and
40:26
Speaker 5: he was like, hey, bro, don't ever take me down.
40:29
Speaker 5: I'm cool, you know what I mean. I don't need
40:30
Speaker 5: a Saturday Sunday morning run like that. Like I'm cool.
40:34
Speaker 5: It's twelve dudes in the gym and they all talking shit.
40:37
Speaker 5: Three of them got Jerry Curls, you.
40:39
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
40:41
Speaker 5: And so I think for for La, it was like, man,
40:44
Speaker 5: be a staple, be a staple, you know what I mean.
40:47
Speaker 3: And with the Jew it was sitting right there and
40:51
Speaker 3: Pool Lb, Trevor.
40:55
Speaker 5: The Year of the Lockout, Clake Thomas, Jabelle McGee, Javel,
41:02
Speaker 5: who else, James, All them dudes was hooping in the
41:07
Speaker 5: Drew Craig Smith. It was a bunch of dudes. And
41:10
Speaker 5: I came back and I was like, damn, like y'all
41:13
Speaker 5: the next wave. I want to invest my time and y'all.
41:17
Speaker 5: And then when Rico, Rico was coaching, not coaching, training,
41:22
Speaker 5: not not training and uh here he uh I think
41:27
Speaker 5: it was at Saint John's and then he was like, man,
41:30
Speaker 5: I don't know what I'm doing. I want to do this.
41:32
Speaker 5: I said, Bro, We're gonna create a logo, go back
41:34
Speaker 5: to UCLA. We're gonna start filming and we're gonna make
41:37
Speaker 5: you like our version of the West Coast Chris Brinkley.
41:41
Speaker 5: That's real mean, And so shout out to Chris Brinkley
41:43
Speaker 5: because he was doing me and I was like, Rico,
41:46
Speaker 5: that's all you need to do. So we put the
41:48
Speaker 5: cameras on Rico and then that's how now his ship
41:52
Speaker 5: is cracking. Mot godfather for Shure Bro. That's that's you know,
41:56
Speaker 5: that's my whole thing in LA. Like a lot of
42:00
Speaker 5: dudes may not give me credit. A lot of dudes
42:03
Speaker 5: may not, you know, or they may, but my goal
42:06
Speaker 5: was just to stand behind people or beat the ladder
42:10
Speaker 5: as somebody need push a ladder to him, you know
42:12
Speaker 5: what I mean, or push an opportunity to him. So
42:15
Speaker 5: it was you know who off court on court, like
42:18
Speaker 5: how do we bring this whole whole little thing together?
42:22
Speaker 2: For sure?
42:22
Speaker 1: I mean, and before we off this point like for
42:24
Speaker 1: me loving YouTube and like loving basketball to see y'all
42:28
Speaker 1: document like Kobe pulling up to the drew, which crazy,
42:31
Speaker 1: like that's a big moment for a lot of people
42:33
Speaker 1: in basketball because they changed a lot of jergy.
42:36
Speaker 2: For that, Eric kids, and like you said, for the
42:38
Speaker 2: drew itself.
42:39
Speaker 5: Man, that the Kobe moment, I wasn't there cause I
42:45
Speaker 5: brought Lebron, Yes, sir, the day before, literally the day before,
42:51
Speaker 5: show you Kobe power though, find out Lebron oh Lebron.
42:55
Speaker 3: After Drew, everybody going crazy.
42:57
Speaker 5: Right about six o'clock, somebody like, yo, Kobe coming up
43:01
Speaker 5: here tomorrow, Like who is Monday? He's like, so what
43:05
Speaker 5: Kobe said he wanted to get a game in. I
43:08
Speaker 5: was like, all right, like, who's gonna play? I go
43:12
Speaker 5: out of I go out of town. Everybody and their
43:15
Speaker 5: mama showed up on Monday. Doug, it wasn't even a Lebron.
43:20
Speaker 5: We brought him to the Drew to play in the game.
43:23
Speaker 5: Kobe was sitting at home, was like, hold on, let's
43:25
Speaker 5: set this up for me. Every pro, every young pro
43:29
Speaker 5: came out and it was up. I think that turned
43:32
Speaker 5: the corner for LA because now, like Kobe was right there,
43:39
Speaker 5: you never seen Kobe, you know what I mean, Like,
43:41
Speaker 5: especially the young dudes, like you don't never see Coche.
43:43
Speaker 3: That's Kobe.
43:45
Speaker 5: Kobe came to the Kobe came to the hood by
43:47
Speaker 5: itself on his own.
43:49
Speaker 3: Marrior. Now that that's you know what I mean?
43:51
Speaker 5: On the East Side. So Kobe coming to the East
43:54
Speaker 5: Side was way bigger than it, you know what I mean,
43:58
Speaker 5: It's way bigger. New was because you know, he had
44:01
Speaker 5: God out there.
44:02
Speaker 3: Facts, bro, Like we watched Kobe grow up.
44:04
Speaker 5: So for him coming to the hood that day, it's like,
44:08
Speaker 5: it's just like layers, Kobe here, Kobe here, like you bullshit,
44:12
Speaker 5: Kobe here, Kobe here, where nobody can get in the gym,
44:15
Speaker 5: nobody can get in the park. And the fact that
44:18
Speaker 5: shout out to Josiah Johnson and Chris Young, Yes, sir,
44:22
Speaker 5: they have to where with all the filming, cold bro,
44:25
Speaker 5: That's why I knew James Harden was real though, Yeah,
44:29
Speaker 5: Jamess like grooming James was like grooming himself. James studied Kobe,
44:34
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, And so James got a
44:36
Speaker 5: lot of just like of that offensive for sure, repertoire,
44:41
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
44:42
Speaker 4: Say for sure, when did you start thinking about like
44:46
Speaker 4: life after basketball, Like what point of your career did
44:49
Speaker 4: you start thinking about other business endeavors like.
44:53
Speaker 5: Who after my first contract? Wow, I wanted to make
44:58
Speaker 5: it to the NBA. I wanted to get a rookie contract,
45:02
Speaker 5: and if I got a rokie contract, it was going
45:04
Speaker 5: to be enough to last me for the rest of
45:06
Speaker 5: my life.
45:07
Speaker 3: That's real.
45:08
Speaker 5: I tore my a cl in college ACL surgeries was like,
45:12
Speaker 5: you don't know how much.
45:13
Speaker 3: How long you got.
45:15
Speaker 5: And in that era, it was like after your rookie deal,
45:18
Speaker 5: if you ain't cracking you out, you know what I mean,
45:22
Speaker 5: especially for a point guard, like or are you backing up?
45:25
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
45:26
Speaker 5: So for me, it was like once I once I
45:29
Speaker 5: got the MAX, I was like, okay, I'm a businessman now,
45:33
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And I did my own deal,
45:36
Speaker 5: so I was my own agent in the deal. Yeah,
45:38
Speaker 5: So that's what made me all that fun. That's what
45:42
Speaker 5: sent me to like, oh shit, like I gotta take
45:44
Speaker 5: care of myself. I got a fin for myself. Like
45:48
Speaker 5: it was a good idea to like not have an agent.
45:51
Speaker 5: But at the same time, like bro, I didn't have
45:53
Speaker 5: an agent. I was like twenty two years old and
45:56
Speaker 5: it was me. Rico tdd Ramazar Earl was around us,
46:02
Speaker 5: but he was hooping and still in college. Ray young
46:06
Speaker 5: and it was just like my U, we're like a
46:07
Speaker 5: real life entourage. And it was like just trying to navigate,
46:12
Speaker 5: you know, the league and say yes, and no the deals.
46:15
Speaker 5: You know, we were like, man, I was like, fuck it,
46:17
Speaker 5: if I put anybody on, I won't put the hummies on.
46:22
Speaker 3: And so they want to be in the league.
46:24
Speaker 5: They want to be agents, they want to be coaches,
46:27
Speaker 5: right like, man, y'all just rock with me, you know
46:29
Speaker 5: what I mean. And anytime we get a call or
46:32
Speaker 5: we had a little po box set up, you know,
46:34
Speaker 5: back in the day, so anything went to the po box,
46:36
Speaker 5: we sit there, we'd be chopping it up and be like,
46:39
Speaker 5: all right, I want to do that. All right, let's
46:40
Speaker 5: go there, you know what I mean. So it was
46:42
Speaker 5: always like use me to get in. I don't think
46:47
Speaker 5: I ever approached the league after that as like it's
46:51
Speaker 5: all about me, you know what I mean. Like I
46:54
Speaker 5: wasn't like the person that was like, you know, basketball
46:57
Speaker 5: is everything and it's my creativity, my piece. But it
47:01
Speaker 5: was always like, damn, dude, I'm here. How many who
47:04
Speaker 5: can I help?
47:06
Speaker 3: Wrong? You know what I mean?
47:07
Speaker 5: Like, who can I help? Because I was I'm just
47:08
Speaker 5: a fan of the game. So to be on the
47:10
Speaker 5: court with these dudes and to play against an Iverson
47:13
Speaker 5: or a Mall.
47:14
Speaker 3: Bear, It's like, man, I'd have made it.
47:15
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, how can I help other
47:17
Speaker 5: people get in this space because it can save lives,
47:20
Speaker 5: you know, for show?
47:21
Speaker 1: And I think like now you would have really really
47:24
Speaker 1: throw up today the way that the NBA endorses people
47:26
Speaker 1: to show their brand and creativity and stuff like that,
47:28
Speaker 1: because obviously you want the most credit people to ever
47:31
Speaker 1: touch a basketball, then you use the NBA program, Like
47:34
Speaker 1: how was that coming about? Like you said, all right, now,
47:36
Speaker 1: I'm a businessman. I got this relationship with the league.
47:38
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just use this to build my brand to
47:40
Speaker 1: help everybody else, he too.
47:42
Speaker 3: Man, it was just I was doing whatever I wanted
47:45
Speaker 3: to do. Honest, that's far.
47:47
Speaker 5: You know, you're twenty three, you got a lot of money,
47:50
Speaker 5: you have no mentors, you have nobody.
47:54
Speaker 3: Leading you know what I mean.
47:55
Speaker 5: It was like I was really like really one of
47:57
Speaker 5: the first ones I was like from LA to do it.
48:01
Speaker 5: So it wasn't like older people reaching out like yo,
48:04
Speaker 5: you're trying to do that, let me help you out,
48:06
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. It was more so like,
48:08
Speaker 5: oh shit, like let me see I can get on.
48:10
Speaker 5: Everybody was like really just like trying to get on,
48:14
Speaker 5: trying to get on, trying to get on So for me,
48:17
Speaker 5: I was just like, I'm just gonna do all this
48:19
Speaker 5: shit myself. I'm gonna take the experience. I'm gonna learn
48:23
Speaker 5: the experience, and then I'm gonna figure out along the
48:27
Speaker 5: way what worked for me.
48:29
Speaker 3: Right.
48:29
Speaker 5: And so even though I'm in the NBA my business
48:33
Speaker 5: as an agent, I'm outsider looking in. So I got
48:38
Speaker 5: to make relationships with the equipment manager, with the VP
48:42
Speaker 5: of marketing, with the salesperson, like I need to know
48:45
Speaker 5: what everybody do, so they don't know I ain't got
48:48
Speaker 5: no agent.
48:49
Speaker 3: Someone I'm asking questions, you know what I mean. I
48:52
Speaker 3: come up on the deal, you know what I mean.
48:53
Speaker 5: And that's how that's what happened with Vitamin Water. I
48:56
Speaker 5: was with Sprite in my REP. Fright was leaving Sprite
49:01
Speaker 5: to go to bidamin Water, and I didn't understand, Like,
49:04
Speaker 5: I could not understand why he was leaving and taking
49:07
Speaker 5: less money to go to a company that like wasn't
49:10
Speaker 5: even a big company.
49:12
Speaker 3: And that's how I learned startup.
49:15
Speaker 5: And he told me like, this is a startup company,
49:17
Speaker 5: and I was like, what the fuck is the startup company?
49:19
Speaker 5: It was like, oh, that's how remember power Ad got
49:22
Speaker 5: bought at eighty million dollars. I was like, damn, if
49:25
Speaker 5: I take this Sprite money for three years, like cool,
49:30
Speaker 5: I'll be cool. I may get a commercial. I ain't
49:33
Speaker 5: getting no commercial, you know what I mean. I'm gonna
49:36
Speaker 5: go and take this Vitamin Water deal because I'm already
49:39
Speaker 5: on billboards out here and I could use my leverage
49:42
Speaker 5: to help them get in the game equity. And that's
49:45
Speaker 5: how it happened. And I was like, I want to
49:47
Speaker 5: learn marketing because that was my home. I was like, yo,
49:50
Speaker 5: if you leave it, I'm going with you. Just teach
49:52
Speaker 5: me how to do, like, teach me marketing codes and
49:55
Speaker 5: like the things y'all look for to like build the brand.
49:58
Speaker 5: So I was there and I watched Vitamin Water hire
50:02
Speaker 5: the right people, put all the right people in position,
50:05
Speaker 5: bring in rock stars and the brand. Just like by
50:07
Speaker 5: the time I got here in Golden State. I remember
50:10
Speaker 5: I went to a conference and it was in Oakland
50:13
Speaker 5: at like the Hilton or something. It was like five
50:16
Speaker 5: hundred sales reps in there. I was like, damn, y'all
50:20
Speaker 5: moving up, you know what I mean? And it was
50:22
Speaker 5: cool because I got a chance to be a part
50:24
Speaker 5: of a company in my journey that started after me
50:29
Speaker 5: and finished way before me in accelerated time. So they
50:33
Speaker 5: went from fifteen to thirty million dollar company to a
50:36
Speaker 5: four billion dollar exit.
50:38
Speaker 3: Crazy bro.
50:40
Speaker 4: So that was your first that was your first initial
50:42
Speaker 4: investment wasamin Water.
50:43
Speaker 3: That was my first investment. That was my first time.
50:45
Speaker 5: I was like, you know what, ain't nobody doing equity
50:48
Speaker 5: deals for they brand, you know what I mean? And
50:51
Speaker 5: investing income People weren't really doing that. It was buying
50:54
Speaker 5: car washes, restaurant you know what I mean, restaurants, fast food, changed,
50:58
Speaker 5: parking lots, real estate. It wasn't nobody really like thinking
51:02
Speaker 5: about being an entrepreneur. We weren't taught that, you know
51:05
Speaker 5: what I mean. We weren't taught that. The NBA wasn't
51:07
Speaker 5: coming by saying like, yeah, be an entrepreneur, you know
51:10
Speaker 5: what I mean. They were like, yeah, save your money
51:13
Speaker 5: because people out here trying to take your money, you
51:15
Speaker 5: know what. It was like that that type of financial
51:18
Speaker 5: literacy conversation.
51:21
Speaker 1: As far and obviously now they do a good job
51:23
Speaker 1: and making sure I were having programs available for the
51:25
Speaker 1: players who went through the process and vets and that
51:27
Speaker 1: nature to all right, once you leave here, we got
51:29
Speaker 1: these opportunities for you'all to stay around making money rights
51:31
Speaker 1: things like that before we get out of here, man
51:33
Speaker 1: telling people what you got going on?
51:34
Speaker 2: Man, what's new with you? You know what I'm saying. You know,
51:35
Speaker 2: you're be in the studio and.
51:37
Speaker 5: I got we are about to launch Slick TV. So
51:40
Speaker 5: I've just been cooking up my little podcast talk show.
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Speaker 3: Okay, shout ou out to the C and CJ. Matt
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Speaker 3: got a show.
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Speaker 5: So we're gonna be basically launching like our whole large
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Speaker 5: stream twenty four to seven channel. And the whole point
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Speaker 5: is for us as the culture have.
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Speaker 3: To be on TV. And so that's what you know
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Speaker 3: we've been working on.
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Speaker 5: And then I got a character that I created called
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Speaker 5: Bart Oatmeal and he rapped make music produced in DJ.
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Speaker 5: So we got two projects that are coming out over
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Speaker 5: the next three four weeks. And then my birthday April thirteenth,
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Speaker 5: my first live show with a bunch of dudes.
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Speaker 3: So shout out to Big Rich. I know he in here.
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Speaker 3: Shot Big Rich.
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Speaker 5: It's Rich on the background, Big Rich, Bay Area legend.
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Speaker 3: We got mister fab I checked.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: My goal is like to make.
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Speaker 5: Music with all the dudes I admire. Respect was in
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Speaker 5: my age range, you know what I mean, And really
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Speaker 5: like I was just trying to get some credibility because
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Speaker 5: my brother was like, bro, nobody's gonna take you serious
52:56
Speaker 5: as a rapper, Like he was always say you're a hooper,
52:58
Speaker 5: You're a hooper first, and I was fuck that.
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna make myself a rapper, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna validate myself as a rapper and build and
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Speaker 5: build this character so the rap dudes can fuck with
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Speaker 5: the character and then Baron Davis could be their friend,
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And so now it's turning,
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Speaker 5: you know, Barto Mill get a ball, y'all be able
53:19
Speaker 5: to down download the music.
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Speaker 3: It's cool, it's a vibe, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 5: So that's really what I've been on like that, and
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Speaker 5: just working on writing scripts and things like that. I'm
53:30
Speaker 5: coming out with not WTF my little series I have,
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Speaker 5: but a different version of it. So I've been working
53:38
Speaker 5: I just finished that, so I'm working on that too.
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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to entertain people, make them laugh and shit.
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Speaker 4: What all right, what's what rapper that you would want
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Speaker 4: to work with though that you probably ain't got in
53:52
Speaker 4: contact with? Shit, Like, what's up because you probably in
53:55
Speaker 4: contact with all the LA area people. But is it
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Speaker 4: somebody that you'd be like, Damn, I love to have
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Speaker 4: this person on the track.
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Speaker 5: Fucking with bart U, I mean obviously Dre okay, Yeah, Drake,
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Speaker 5: ken Jack, come on that LA make it happen.
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Speaker 3: Fifty c fuck with fifty.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna have your power to be careful.
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Speaker 3: That's fine. Let me get on. Let me get on
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Speaker 3: to think out who else?
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Speaker 1: Juvenile Juvie and little Way Wayne? But you you and
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Speaker 1: Wayne Boy?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I need I need a joint with Wayne? Who going?
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Speaker 1: Who?
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Speaker 2: Who?
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Speaker 3: Finishing the track? You were? Wayne?
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Speaker 5: Who?
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Speaker 3: Wayne?
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Speaker 5: Gotta finisht got my man okay yet finished?
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Speaker 2: Would you do a track with any other hooper like Dame?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Hell yeah.
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Speaker 5: I've been trying to get Dame on the record. Dame really,
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Speaker 5: I think Dan when I talked to Dame, I think
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Speaker 5: he thinks is Baron Davis trying to get a record
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Speaker 5: from him? But He's like, no, bart open Trump people
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Speaker 5: be confused with it too. But with Dame music, we
55:06
Speaker 5: always talk about this, you know at our spot is
55:08
Speaker 5: like who are the best hoop rappers hoop musicians? And
55:13
Speaker 5: so I do want to put together a project where
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Speaker 5: we can get everybody on the record.
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: On the album you shunk Dame Bridges Bridges.
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Speaker 4: Hard, Yeah, I got that tough. You gotta put on
55:36
Speaker 4: he tough. You gotta put these on there.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know you can let Vic sing the
55:43
Speaker 2: Hook the Deep.
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Speaker 3: Too. It's somebody else who sing to in the league?
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Speaker 3: Oh you know who else? Cold and Rap? Triple j
55:53
Speaker 3: Oh for he got a sick. He had a sick
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Speaker 3: Little Triple. I think it's Triple j Jay Jared Jackson.
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Speaker 3: Oh really.
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Speaker 2: Video look to hear about that.
56:08
Speaker 3: It's hard. It's hard. You're gonna like it's a body.
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Speaker 5: Like. The cool thing about these young dudes, man, is
56:13
Speaker 5: like they have creative freedom and they can be themselves
56:17
Speaker 5: and they don't give a fuck, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: It's like they hoop all day. They love a hoop.
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Speaker 5: And now they know, like, if my hobby is twitch
56:24
Speaker 5: and playing video games, you can do that. If I
56:26
Speaker 5: want to make music, you can do that. You got
56:28
Speaker 5: plenty of time in the day. And I think a
56:31
Speaker 5: lot of times, like we're in our era, people didn't
56:33
Speaker 5: know that we had hobbies. They just thought practice show
56:37
Speaker 5: up on TV and never see whatever the media wanted
56:41
Speaker 5: to show was who your brand was.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Now since social media you can say hey, hoop, but
56:47
Speaker 5: I'm also in the fact, like you can communicate, you
56:49
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So these dudes is like they're
56:51
Speaker 5: just going up being who they want to be, you know.
56:54
Speaker 5: And I just feel like all of it is like
56:57
Speaker 5: a shade of like all the things that I was
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Speaker 5: fighting for or to like be for myself, you know
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Speaker 5: what I mean. So I can just all I want
57:05
Speaker 5: to do is just give roses and you know what
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Speaker 5: I mean, be a fan and support you know, this
57:09
Speaker 5: next generation.
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Speaker 4: You think Instagram would have messed up the league back
57:13
Speaker 4: when you came in.
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Speaker 3: I had a lot of it.
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Speaker 5: That we believe, no way would we might have even
57:22
Speaker 5: made it. The whole team would have been suspended so
57:27
Speaker 5: far what Twitter, we would have had beef in cities.
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Speaker 3: People been waiting, people would wait. Y'all was real different.
57:36
Speaker 3: It was. I can't say it.
57:39
Speaker 5: But you gotta have one of my teammates because I
57:41
Speaker 5: used to grab a mic and say some wild Ship
57:44
Speaker 5: come on, man, Yeah, you gotta get Madden stack.
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Speaker 3: You know.
57:50
Speaker 5: We went out New Year's Eve, We play Houston. We
57:52
Speaker 5: beat Houston, and you know, we got homies on the Rockets,
57:57
Speaker 5: so they came and funk with us in the club.
57:59
Speaker 5: When they said, I'll go grab a mic and say
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Speaker 5: funck everybody.
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Speaker 3: The Houston Rockets.
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Speaker 5: It's something my homeboy right there, Buzzie Luthor head, you know,
58:14
Speaker 5: just like we were so cool that other you know,
58:18
Speaker 5: like even though we had homies on other teams. Yeah,
58:21
Speaker 5: like I ain't really coming to Atlanta and me and
58:23
Speaker 5: you going out unless it's like.
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Speaker 3: We went to school together.
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Speaker 5: We got here, man, we was having all kind of
58:28
Speaker 5: dudes on other teams coming out with us. Like, man,
58:31
Speaker 5: we're fucking with y'all where you're going tonight? Yeah, like
58:34
Speaker 5: what's going up that hard?
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Speaker 3: Man?
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Speaker 1: We could do this all day when I get up
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Speaker 1: out of here, Max, you know, us and Baron Davis
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Speaker 1: one time, one time.
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Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: Appreciate you rocking with us. Sorry, I appreciate you.
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Speaker 1: Man, know what it is Club five twenty here here.
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Speaker 1: Really appreciate y'all rocking with us to the next time
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Speaker 1: we out