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#629 - P-Rod talks New Skate League, Nike, Skate Culture & Reveals New Kobe-Inspired Shoe · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Yo.
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  Speaker 2: all right, man, Bootleg cap Podcast special guests in here,
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  Speaker 2: a skateboard legend, p rod Paul Rodriguez.
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  Speaker 1: What's going down?
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  Speaker 2: How you doing, buddy?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing lovely, man. Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, man, you were like kind of like one
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  Speaker 2: of the dudes who kind of like I feel like,
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  Speaker 2: kicked the door down in terms of like what was
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  Speaker 2: possible for skating because I feel like Nike and skateboarding
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  Speaker 2: was so like just the idea of that being like
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  Speaker 2: a real thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like it was pretty controversial at the
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  Speaker 1: time when when I got on Nike. It was like
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  Speaker 1: you got skaters being like super core, like fucked a,
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  Speaker 1: this is our industry, Like we don't want the corporate,
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  Speaker 1: corporate companies coming in, and so like it was like
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: risky movie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's all these like shoe brands that are
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  Speaker 3: just like yeah obviously at these DC or all the
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  Speaker 3: core brands, and so they had this like grip on
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  Speaker 3: the market and then ESB's come in.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it was just like
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  Speaker 1: a situation and I was like I have to see
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  Speaker 1: what this is about, Like you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Like I grew up in the Michael Jordan era. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to be like Mike. We all
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  Speaker 1: wanted his shoes growing up. I just didn't never think
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  Speaker 1: that skateboarding when I started. It's just not something I
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  Speaker 1: thought I can dream about being one day being a
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  Speaker 1: Nike Ethice and and and when they came knocking on
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  Speaker 1: my door with that type of opportunity, man, I mean
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  Speaker 1: I had to what year is this two thousand and four?
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  Speaker 1: Damn man.
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  Speaker 2: So you're sixteen at.
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  Speaker 4: The time, nineteen nineteen, okay, So like back then, like
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  Speaker 4: obviously skate magazines are big, and then like there'd be
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  Speaker 4: all these like vhs is that people would buy, and shit,
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  Speaker 4: what was like the thing that kind of got you
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  Speaker 4: on their radar.
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  Speaker 1: At that time? I was, I was. I was pretty
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  Speaker 1: well established for the like since I was like fifteen
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  Speaker 1: is when I first came on the scene. So like
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  Speaker 1: over that four year period, i'd like, you know, been
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  Speaker 1: pretty active and pretty busy, and I was pretty well
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  Speaker 1: known already in the core kind of skate world. I had,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a sponsorship with S that was the shoe
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  Speaker 1: company I was with.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah Costin too, right, Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Costin is that his shoe?
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  Speaker 2: Does he own that?
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  Speaker 1: I was? No? No, he was, he owned he I mean
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  Speaker 1: he was he's like the face that he was the
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  Speaker 1: boss of S. Yeah, for sure, but he didn't own it.
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  Speaker 1: But he's Nike now, so for him yeaheah. And I
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  Speaker 1: was with like Girl Skateboards, So I was like with
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  Speaker 1: like the most prominent companies at that time, and they would,
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  Speaker 1: you know, get me ads in the magazines and video
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  Speaker 1: parts and the biggest videos. So I was I was
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  Speaker 1: getting well known. And so when Nike, you know, was
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  Speaker 1: starting up their skate program. It started a couple of
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  Speaker 1: years before I got on with some more like core
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  Speaker 1: kind of underground more skate skaters. But I guess they
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  Speaker 1: got to a point where they all, right, we need
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  Speaker 1: like our franchise guy to like help kind of really
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  Speaker 1: break it through. And I was honored when they approached me,
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  Speaker 1: like thinking that maybe I could be that guy for them.
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  Speaker 1: It was like a huge honor.
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  Speaker 2: You must have like an insane just amount of grails, sbs, and.
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  Speaker 1: You would think, you would think, but at the time
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  Speaker 1: I didn't care, Like I like, they were just sending
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  Speaker 1: me shoes, dunks, all the grails, and I was just
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  Speaker 1: skating them. I would just wrecking them, ripping them. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, there was a couple like that I got
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  Speaker 1: rid of. You know, a couple of people offer me
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  Speaker 1: some money else Yeah, sure, dude, what but there's a
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  Speaker 1: few that I've I mean, I've pretty much have had
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  Speaker 1: them all slipped through my fingers at one point. If
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  Speaker 1: I just had the foresight to like stack them up.
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  Speaker 1: I'd probably have like, you know, a couple of million
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  Speaker 1: worth in my collection. It's just a little retirement collection there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because there was like this crazy dunk wave of sb's,
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  Speaker 2: like when it was like the Tiffany dunks, and they
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  Speaker 2: all of.
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  Speaker 1: Them, all of them. I had them all almost all
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  Speaker 1: of them. Yes, a couple of them, you know, don't
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  Speaker 1: get me wrong, you know, slaying a couple on the
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  Speaker 1: side here and there, but like not at all what
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  Speaker 1: the prices would have been if I'd have held onto them.
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  Speaker 2: Do you like how hands on is it? Because obviously,
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  Speaker 2: you know, at least when I was a kid, I
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  Speaker 2: used to like sketch sneakers and shit. So when you're
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  Speaker 2: able to design your own shoe, yeah, it's gotta be
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  Speaker 2: fucking cool.
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  Speaker 1: It was dope and it is dope. But you know, I,
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  Speaker 1: especially early on, I was such like a a skate nerd,
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  Speaker 1: like obsessed with skating, Like I didn't want to be
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  Speaker 1: bothered with anything unless it was like being on my
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  Speaker 1: skateboard skating. So like my first shoe, they team me
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  Speaker 1: up with this guy Michael Hernandez and he's the one
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  Speaker 1: who designed it. But what he would do back then
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  Speaker 1: is like basically, come up on the computer, make a
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  Speaker 1: few different renderings pictures, drawings of what he's thinking, print
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  Speaker 1: out the papers for me of all different options, and
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like, I like that, I like this one,
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  Speaker 1: but I like the soul on this one, but I
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  Speaker 1: like the design over here. Maybe let's try mashing these together.
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  Speaker 1: And then we made a sample we tried out.
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  Speaker 2: And then you have to skate in the sample.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, yep, I'll skate the samples. Tell him like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't like the way this feels too thick,
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  Speaker 1: too thin, whatever, and just like basically a narrowing down process,
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  Speaker 1: which took about a year, a little over year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, is there for you man? Because I grew up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm thirty eight. So skate boarding was like pop culture
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  Speaker 2: back then, Like we had Tony Hawk. Obviously, Tony Hawk
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  Speaker 2: did so much for kids to discovery the sport. The
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  Speaker 2: X Games were at all time high back then. You know,
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  Speaker 2: how do you feel like the skateboarding industry is like today?
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  Speaker 2: It feels like it's obvious. I feel like it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of like it's not as as mainstream as mainstream, but
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  Speaker 2: kind of more mainstream at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: I know what you're saying, because, like you.
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  Speaker 2: Like hip hop kids. Back then, like we were very
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  Speaker 2: like fuck skaters, we're hip hop kids. But then like
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  Speaker 2: obviously certain artists kind of merge the worlds and now yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're one in the same.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, I mean, you just got to give
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  Speaker 1: credit to social media basically, like it's really created. It's
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  Speaker 1: like you see it in every culture. It's like everything's
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  Speaker 1: kind of merged together, like everybody knows a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about a lot of a lot more things than we
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  Speaker 1: used to. Like I used to only be like had
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  Speaker 1: the horse blinders on. All I did was skate watch
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  Speaker 1: skate videos. I didn't care what else was going on
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  Speaker 1: in the world. But like now it's kind of hard
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  Speaker 1: to avoid. It's just there in your face. So I
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  Speaker 1: see what you're saying. It's like it doesn't necessarily feel
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  Speaker 1: as like concentratedly mainstream, but it's like all over the
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  Speaker 1: culture sprinkled, you know what I mean, which it's.
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  Speaker 2: Like widely accept because I feel like, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: guys like Terry Kennedy and and for well was going
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  Speaker 2: by skateboard pe. Yeah, there was like all the shit
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  Speaker 2: that was happening there kind of just slowly like made it. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's okay to be a skater, you know, and then
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  Speaker 2: like Tony Hawk's cracking, and then like even the Tony
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  Speaker 2: Hawk's soundtrack was so fucking crazy, like for it, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: some of the records that they embedded into your skull. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just noticing now too that the point I'm
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  Speaker 1: at in my career, I realized, at some point everybody
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  Speaker 1: skated a little bit, right, you know, like when they're
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  Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen, and a lot of times those were like
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  Speaker 1: really special nostalgic moments in their life that they'll always remember.
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  Speaker 1: So like all meet guys who are like well known
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  Speaker 1: now in a different fields, whether it be music or
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  Speaker 1: acting a comedy who like I'll meet him to be yo,
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  Speaker 1: what up dude? And I'm like what you know? Me?
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  Speaker 1: Like you're you you know what I mean? Like and like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I used to skate, and I just it's so cool
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  Speaker 1: to now have been in it for so long that
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  Speaker 1: at some point, like they just have that nostalgic memory
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  Speaker 1: of my skating at that point in time.
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  Speaker 2: Who's uh, Because there's some really good skaters in hip
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  Speaker 2: hop and I'm sure on you know, the entertainment side,
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  Speaker 2: like hops In is.
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  Speaker 1: Fucking Hopson's probably like the best.
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  Speaker 2: Skate quietly rich the kids pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: He's pretty he could skate, but Hopy is like really
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  Speaker 1: good Hopson like skater skater. He actually told me we
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  Speaker 1: went to school together, and I didn't realize it at
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  Speaker 1: the time. I guess I was a great ahead of him,
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  Speaker 1: And years later when I met him, he was like, bro,
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  Speaker 1: we used to go to junior high together, Like what
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  Speaker 1: are you seriously Like? Yeah, uh so that was pretty
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  Speaker 1: small world. But you know who else could skate is
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  Speaker 1: yellow Wolf.
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  Speaker 2: Yellow is a great skate Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yellow Wolf's good. Um, there's a few. Logic got a
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  Speaker 1: couple moves, does he? Yeah, Logia has a few moves.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen him all the heel flip before.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody ran him, like any comedians or actors or anybody.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my boy, Renee Vodka.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, shout out to Renee Vodka. I just got really
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  Speaker 2: ship faced with him last week me too, great fucking
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  Speaker 2: guy was at the Burner concert and he was poorn tequila.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, him and his tequila pineapples. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: I hang out with Renee. I don't know. He's all
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  Speaker 1: the time. He's the man hilarious. Somebody, don't let him
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  Speaker 1: fool You met that boy? Could He'll flip Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out to Renee Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Shout Renee Man. One of the best comedians out right. Now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's killing it. Hey, we got to stop
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  Speaker 2: Let's get back to the interview. What's it like speaking
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  Speaker 2: to comedians growing up with your dad?
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  Speaker 1: Uh? It was cool, Like, you know, I didn't live
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  Speaker 1: with him growing up, so I live with my mom
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  Speaker 1: and he was always on the road working, So I
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  Speaker 1: would get like, you know, a random weekend here and
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  Speaker 1: there with him, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's kind of the life right there
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  Speaker 2: on the road every weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much binding And if he wasn't doing that,
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  Speaker 1: he was on some movie set or TV set. He
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  Speaker 1: was always busy and working, and uh so I just
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  Speaker 1: got to see a lot of cool experiences. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of times, you know, he would bring me and I'd
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  Speaker 1: I'd be backstage at one of his big shows and
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  Speaker 1: I'd be meeting random cool people and I'd be on
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  Speaker 1: a set just running around. He'd have somebody like keeping
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  Speaker 1: an eye on me because I was like a little
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  Speaker 1: active kid running around behind stage, like just getting into trouble.
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  Speaker 1: So it was a really good experience. I think the
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  Speaker 1: biggest takeaway I got from it that I didn't realize
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  Speaker 1: i got older, was like it was normal for me
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  Speaker 1: to dream big. It was normal for me to think that,
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  Speaker 1: like you could have a dream and it's gonna happen
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: because I'm here watching it for him, right. So like
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  Speaker 1: every time I approached a new hobby, I approached it
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  Speaker 1: like this is what I'm going to do with my life.
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  Speaker 1: And luckily with skateboarding, that was the thing that I
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  Speaker 1: stuck with the most, and so I never had that
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  Speaker 1: like kind of mental barrier in my mind of like
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I could do it. It was just
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  Speaker 1: like no, if I just work hard enough, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to do it. And so I think that was a
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  Speaker 1: big like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeh, help, who is the coolest person backstage you met
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  Speaker 2: at one of your dad shows? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Man, there's a couple of people like Jimmy Smith was
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  Speaker 1: always super dope, super cool. Me, yeah, super cool actor. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: Carlos Santana was that's pretty great, so cool. So my
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  Speaker 1: dad used to have a talk show called It'll Show
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  Speaker 1: that Paul Rodriguez on was it Univision, Telemundo one of
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  Speaker 1: the other. And I was probably about six, maybe seven,
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't know who Carlos Santana was at this time.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm just roaming the halls backstage, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just doing what I want to do, and this a
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  Speaker 1: green room or dressing room was open, and I just
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  Speaker 1: hear like a guitar and I'm just like, I look you, oh, hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's a cool guitar. And he was like, oh
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  Speaker 1: yeah you think so I was like yeah, I was like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: can you play the the song from the Pink Panther liken'
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  Speaker 1: didn't and he just did it. He was like, I think, so,
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  Speaker 1: I think I got that one, and he did it,
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  Speaker 1: and I was so mind blow. Was like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: you're really good man. And I ran.
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  Speaker 2: Dad, Dad, Dad, the sky.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta put on my should you the pink panther.
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  Speaker 1: So that was a pretty cool little moment. And then
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  Speaker 1: another time, mister T, oh that's sick. Well, yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: was the man like I seen him at the used
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  Speaker 1: to have the Christmas Day parade every year in Pasadena
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  Speaker 1: and my dad was in the parade. One year, brought
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  Speaker 1: me and he was like doing an interview and we
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  Speaker 1: were sat at the same table with like mister T
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  Speaker 1: and some other people, and you know, eighteen was out
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  Speaker 1: at this time, and it was just like I was
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  Speaker 1: so hyped that he was there and my dad was
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  Speaker 1: doing an interview and I had to go to the
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  Speaker 1: bathroom real bad. I forget who I told. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta go pee, and he heard me. He was like,
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  Speaker 1: come on, little man, I got you. He picks me,
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  Speaker 1: He puts me over his shoulders, like, walks me to
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  Speaker 1: the restroom, puts me down. All right, go ahead, are
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  Speaker 1: you been his? Then I go to the bat like,
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  Speaker 1: come out, he's waiting for me. He puts me back on,
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  Speaker 1: then he takes me back to the table and says
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  Speaker 1: me down. So that's another great memory I have.
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  Speaker 2: So were your parents pretty supportive of like, you chasing
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  Speaker 2: the dream of being a pro skateboarder? Did it is? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because I mean I feel like you got to get
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: dropped off of competitions in a skate park, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: got a cheap hobby.
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  Speaker 1: It's cheaper than most. But but when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: that point, yeah, shout out to Uncle Dave. He's the
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  Speaker 1: one who would take me to all the contests. He
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  Speaker 1: would sign me up and drive me, get the hotels,
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  Speaker 1: book them for us. So he was always super supportive
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: in that. My mom was really supportive in the sense of,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: you know, if I wanted to take karate class as
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: a kid, she would sign me up. If I wanted
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: to play a Little league baseball, sign me up like
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: so when it came to skateboarding, she was all good
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: with it. There was no really like places to get lessons.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to go out in the backyard with
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: my friends and and skate, So she was like, yeah,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: you know, enjoy your your kid explore, you know, be active.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: And then my dad it wasn't that he wasn't supportive,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: he just didn't get it. He didn't understand it. Like
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: when I was like telling him like I'm going to
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: be a pro skater, He's like like, what is that? Like,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: have no problem with me skating. You know, you're twelve
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: thirteen years old. Have fun, you know that's what boys do,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: you know. But I was like, I'm going to be
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: a pro Skater's like, son, like what I was like, Yeah,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be a pro skater. He's like, there's
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: no money in that. I'm like, yeah, there isn't. Eric
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Coustin was my example. I was like, no, Eric Couston
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: He's he makes a lot of money. I had no
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: idea how much this got he's making or not, but
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: in my mind he was like a gajillionaire. And he
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: just was like, son, I think, you know, have fun,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: but like you should like think about what you really
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: want to do with your life that old time.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: You probably heard similar shit from your grandparents about being
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: a professional.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Literally what I told him, that's literally what that's the
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: That's the one thing that I told him where he
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: never like tried to talk me out of it. Ever again.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I was like, Dad, like, you know, Grandma and grandpa,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: all you guys immigrated straight from Mexico, grew up in Compton,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: poor migrant farm workers, and you told him you're going
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: to be a comedian and this is the way you're
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: going to take care of the family. He was like,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I was like yeah, and he was like, okay, you
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: got me. Like, that's the only time I've ever like,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: not had the last words with a comedian.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Is there a trick that you had to perfect over
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: time that might have taken some years off your life,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: or that you've wracked up the most injuries trying to
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: figure that?
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I guess yeah, it wasn't even one that I was
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: trying to perfect. It was one that I thought I
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: had pretty good. But you know, it was just a
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: freak accident. Back in twenty eighteen, I blew out my
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: whole right knee, every ligament, everything, the meniscus is aco,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: everything was all torn apart. I was skating these stairs.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I did this trick called a half cab flip. I
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: just completely missed the pop airballed, it landed crazy wrong,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: felt the whole thing pop out of place and go back.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: And so that took me out for a good two years.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: So I had never been off my board for longer
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: than maybe a month at that point, from like a
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: sprained ankle or something. So that took me out a
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: good two years.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: How many stairs was it?
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: It was only nine. It wasn't like a crazy big set.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: It was just it's a freak accident. But as far
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: as a single trick besides like that type of thing. Nah,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: it's just an accumulation now, like my knees, my ankles,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I feel it now, I bet yeah. They're talking to
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: me every morning when I get out of bed. Those
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: first few steps are like I'm aching.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: When you're like coming up, Like there's like work guys,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: street guys, guys who could do both, Like what would
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: like because I feel like a lot of the more
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: old school guys were more like halfpipe bruhs. You know
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Like what what?
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: What?
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: I guess like because you would say you're more of
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: a street skater? Yeah? What uh? Made? Was it just
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: at a necessity, Like I can learn how to skate
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: because the streets outside Like no.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: It was kids at school, sorry, my kids texting me.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: It was kids at school that I just I would
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: walk to school in the morning for seven grade, and
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: every morning they were out there skating in the parking lot.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Every every day after school they were back in the
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: parkland and I just found myself standing there like at
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: a distance and just watching them. I thought it was
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the coolest shit I ever seen in my life. Like
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: they could jump, they could land back on at the board, flips,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: they keep going. I was just like just enamored by it,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: and I had to know how it was done, Like
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: like when you see a magician do a magic trick
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: and oh my god, my kid. Sorry, Uh, Mike, can
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: you text or ask her what she needs?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Sorry? Thanks, dude?
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: O was I? Oh yeah, it was like a magic trick.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I just had to know how it was done. So
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: finally I just saw one of the kids and asked them, like, hey,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: can I try standing on your board?
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: And oh my god, sorry, dude, take your freaking kids.
• 19:48
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• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Sorry, Yeah, yeah, I take care of the kid. So yeah,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I just fell in love with it watching kids at
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: school skate and one day I finally work up the
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: courage to ask him if I can try, and I
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: was hooked.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Oh shit.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: And then that year for Christmas, I just told everybody like,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: just I don't know what I want. Just can I
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: have some money? I just want to get a skateboard.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Do you remember what brand you first bought?
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a Powell Powell Blank Venture trucks, bones,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: wheels and just like random bearings. And I think Shorty's
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: hardware that's crazy. Yeah, is like for you?
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I wonder because I feel like you're one of the
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: guys who has kind of like changed like the trajectory
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: of what skateboarding can be. And I think Tony Hawk's
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: one of those guys, even like Rob dear Deck's a
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: guy like that for sure. Who would you kind of
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: put up in the like most influential, impactful skaters of
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: all time, not necessarily the best, but like guys who
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: are just very, very impactful.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, you named a nice chunk of them. Let's
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Chad Muska chat to Chadman, Yeah, Kareem Campbell, Stevie Williams
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: of course Costin, Yeah, Eric Cousten, Tom Penny, Christian Hassoy
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: for the generation even you know before Eric's Lance Mount
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: and Christian Assoy, Steve Caballero. I feel bad because I
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: know I'm gonna be driving later and be like, shit,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I should know.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I think he hit a lot
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: of the guys.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: That's a good that's a good little bunch of them
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: right there.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Because Chad has was was super, Chad's Chad super.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like his his. I
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: want to say he had some ownership for sure. He
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: definitely launched it. He was the guy like they used
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: to launch its thought DC. He's as well, that's fucking crazy, huh.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: He's from Eazy Uh. Rob didn't own d C. But
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I want to say he had a.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Little piece of sure hope. So after he worked on
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: that show.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: No, he he's the best businessman that I know, and
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: he was getting his fair share, his more than fair
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: share from DC. He had a he had a crazy
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: hustle with them early on before it was like normal
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: to uh really have big shoe deals. He already had
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: it before he was even robing big. Before all that,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: he was already like his business mind was crazy.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, would you say Street League is kind of like
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: taking the place of Like, I mean, I feel like
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: X Games is obviously still very big, right it's going
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: on right now, but yeah, it feels like I'm the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: skateboarding front like Street League is kind.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Of right now. Yeah, Street League is the most respected
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I guess skate contests going on right now. In my opinion,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: there's a new one coming out in a couple of
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: weeks called the PSL, which is a really good one,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: which I think in my opinion it's going to be
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: like right there on a Street League confessional, Yeah, Professional
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Skate League. So I think that one, because it's a
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: total different format, is going to have a chance to
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: be like right there on a street lead.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: What's different?
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: So it's just skating a set of stairs, and so
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: it's like it's like playing a game of horse. So
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: like there's three it's teams. First of all, three verse three.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: One guy goes does a trick, the next team has
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: to do that same trick or this team gets their point.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: And so it's like baseball in the sense of like
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: if this team keeps landing tricks to keep going, but
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: if they miss up three times and it switches over
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: and now they get to start over. So it's like
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: got innings. So you don't have to understand what the
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: tricks are. You don't have to know regular switch, faky, nalli, whatever.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: You just know this guy landed that trick and this
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: team needs to land that trick. So it's gonna be like.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: A lot of good are there like team names?
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a team. I'm an owner.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, so you own a team in the league.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Own a team in the league, Yeah you could.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: There's franchises, yeah.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's six teams right now. You got Team Sahs,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: which is my team.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: What's that mean?
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: It's it's my skate crew that I had since two
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: thousand and one that only four of us know the name.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: We never tell nobody anything, but it's like that's our
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: our team name Sahs. You got Losantos, which is headed
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: up by Felipe Gustavo you have the Wolverines, which is
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: headed up by Chris Jocelyn, the SODI of twenty twenty five?
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Uh who else?
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: You got?
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Jamie Foy and a shod split a team, but I
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: don't remember what their team is called. Another team called Lithium.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Niger has a team. I should know all the team
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: names off top of my hand, but I can't own. Man,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: but it's only we only care about sahs.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Are you gonna skape?
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a skate that's yeah.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: So we got six guys on each team, so you
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: can have like a bench and starters.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I saw Niger just had a pretty crazy injury.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Man, Yeah that was wild, pretty wild, Like he was
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: azy when that happened, just.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Like never know, right, Yeah, No, even if you're like
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: the best in the world, you're still fucking skateboarding doing
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: crazy shit.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, and he does. He pushes himself
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: like unreal limits. And the crazy part is what he
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: was trying wasn't even that like I would expect that
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: that wouldn't have been the craziest thing he's He's done.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: He's done some pretty like death defying stuff, but just
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: freak accidents like when you're skating rails that big, Like
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: just one little miscalculation and that can happen, you know, So,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: like you said, it doesn't matter how how good you are,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: a freak accident.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I remember seeing him and he was like a little
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: kid skating.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Dreads long ass. Yeah, yeah he was. He's been on
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: the scenes. He's like nine ten years old, crazy, like
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: a little child prodigy.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: When is it so the PSLs in a couple of weeks.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So the first PSL is now going to be
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: on February seventh, I believe so. Yeah, Team Sahs versus
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Los Santos, that's our first team that we battle, and
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Do you uh you make it into one of the
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: later Tony Hawk games. I think it was the Which one?
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Was it? The Doug one?
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I was in Underground? I was in one more thing
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I can't project eight.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, I played neither but one through four.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I was fucking fucking shit up on.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Are you do you feel like because I know certain
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: people think that skate is the better skate franchise, I'm
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: a Tony Hawkeye. What do you think is the best
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: skateboarding game of all time?
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Oh? You're putting me in a tight spot here. I
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: love Tony to death. He's the man. But I will
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: have to say, when skate first came out, I'm just
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: talking in that era, it was more realistic, the moves,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: the way they they had, Like the tricks, look the
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: way you even on the controllers, you did them kind
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: of similar to how your feet would move. So as
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: an actual skater, I was like, this is actually more
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: realistic to the tricks that are going down.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: That makes sense. Yeah, it was definitely. That's why I
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: think that's why I did like it as much. I
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: was like, man, I'm trying to fucking yeah, that's Tony Hawk.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Tony Hawk. Man.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: That's what was so smart though, Like Tony Hawk and
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: those guys, like they knew that they were trying to
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: reach the masses. Yes, and you know, so business wise,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: that's much smarter.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: What do you think is the greatest skate trick ever landed?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: It's hard to say, man, there's really no true answer,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say just because off the top of
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: my head right now, Chris Johnson just did a three
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: sixty flip down El Toro, which is twenty stairs qumungous
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: and it's like, that's the reason why he won Skater
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: of the Year this year, among you know, his other
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: amazing skating, but that was the one that really sealed
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the deal for him. So I'm just saying, because that's
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: on the top of my head right now, that I'm
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: going to go with that.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: That's tight. Yeah, have you been because we talked a
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: little bit obviously shot to Deshaun, who's also a Nike skater.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: He's from my hometown. Have you, like, have you kind
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: of helped mentor him at all because he's obviously on
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: the younger side.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're pretty close. We're pretty close. Actually, when we
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: did the first PSL like sample game, he was my teammate.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: It was me and him. Oh, and he's he's going
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: to be in the PSL as well. But I hang
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: out with him often, and you know, I'm always there
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: to offer advice anytime he has any questions or you know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: anything career wise or business wise that he's that he's
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to say struggling with but
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: just debating on I guess you know, he comes to me.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: But I never, like, you know, try to be forceful
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: by anything because I've made millions of mistakes, so sometimes
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: my advice could be wrong, So but I'm always there.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: From in twenty twenty six, I'm sure it's changed, Like
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: how you get on the radar to get sponsors and
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: become a quote unquote professional skater because we have social
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: media and all this stuff. What would you say is like,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: if someone is in their hometown and they're skating every
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: day and they feel like they're really dope, Like, what
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: do you think is like the best advice for somebody
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: to try to kind of just get on the radar
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: to try to get some sort of financing from one
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: of these companies.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean obviously, you know you would think it's
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: like about high level skating, which that is a factor,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: But I would say I would argue that skating is
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: more comparable to like music than any other sport, right,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Like you got guys who can wrap their asses off,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: but can't sell a record to save their life. Same
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: thing as skateboarding. Like you got guys who can do
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: the hardest tricks in the world no one's ever done.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: But if you're not appealing to that audience, if you're
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: not making the kids out there watch it want to
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: be like you, if you're not inspiring nobody, then it's
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: going to be hard for you to get a career going.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: So I would suggest to everybody, like, yes, perfect your craft,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: but it's not just in doing the hard tricks. You
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: got to be mindful of, like how you make the
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: tricks look, how graceful you are with your your style,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: not just your clothing style, but like the way you
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: look when you actually are doing the tricks. How you
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: dress also will help. You. Know, it doesn't have to
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: be a specific way of dressing, but like if you're
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: if you're good on knowing who you are and your
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: personal style and you put yourself together, well that will help.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Like you have to think about making yourself marketable.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: You kind of want to make yourself a brand. Like
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: that's the whole thing, right exactly, you got it, Like
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: you gotta have eyes on you so people could be like, yeah,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I want you to wear a shit.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. So like I'll see footage from kids, like
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: they'll DM me footage or whatnot, and like basically every
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: kid's good these days. If they're they're getting to the
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: level of trying to submit a sponsor me tape, you
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: just look for those other factors, Okay, like, Okay, he's
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: got a cool style to him. He's got a whole
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: vibe to him. I like his tricks, choices of t ricks, obstacles,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: he skates. And then you got to meet them in personally.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: How does he vibe with the rest of the guys.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: They got a good attitude and all those type of things.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: You got to think about it. If you want to
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: be a pro skater, you got to remember, like that's
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: gonna be your job and your career. So there's other
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: things that come along with it. Signings, demos, tours, you know,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: some pressure to filming deadlines. You know, it's not just
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: like when you're when you're younger and you're just with
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: your friends and it's on your own time, right, Like
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: you have to like.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you're like professional is the keyword, you know.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of kids I've seen come in
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: not be able to like adjust to that and like
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: disappear and just not talk to.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Me about primitive and like because that's turned into like,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, you guys have been on a crazy run.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: You go to Zoomies. It's in there, Like what was
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: the was there was there anything about starting your own brand,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: like that that you know was a little more difficult
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: than you thought, and just talk about the brand in general.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: The whole time has been difficult. It's been it's been
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: a really hard, hard journey because skateboarding is such a
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: critical culture, right, Like you go a little too big,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: you sold out. You make a business decision, but it
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: might not align with a cultural decision, you know what
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I mean. So, like it's really hard to put those
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: two worlds together. It's almost like oil and vinegar. It's
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: really hard to get those two worlds to blend. So
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: you get a lot of shit sometimes, but sometimes you
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: got to make decisions for the business. Sometimes you got
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: to make decisions for the culture.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: You guys have some pretty crazy collapse too. Yeah, I
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: feel like I bought my kid like some sort of
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: was it Dragonball y'all?
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we had dragon ball Z, no Ruto Sublime, I
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: just a sublime. Yeah, we're about to launch our next one.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: We had Outcast, Tupac Biggie.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Do you curate a lot of that stuff?
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Not me personally, my partner, Jubil, He's like he's our
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: design like brand kind of guy. I'm still kind of
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: more just I just love the skating part. I'm the
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I'm the face. I'm shaking hands, kissing babies and out
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: here skating.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: It feels like we're living in like some historical times,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: especially with what's been going on with this ice shit
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: in Minnesota and everywhere. I mean, that's staring content today. Horrible.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I just saw pictures of live in content today.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, sir, obviously, you know, being uh of Hispanic descent,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: You're you're like you said, your dad grew up here.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: His parents, you say, came from.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: From Mexico, Mexico.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, from Mexico, work in the farms. What are your
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: thoughts on just the temperature of what's going on right now?
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: And just like this, the whole ice sh it is.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Kind of well, I'm quite frankly, I'm fucking scared, like,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: not not even necessarily, just for like myself or whatever.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, like just in general, Like I'm scared for
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: for my people, you know, I'm scared for like friends
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: and my friend's families. I'm scared for for people. I
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: just I don't know, man, Like it's just I don't
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: even know how to put it into words, Like I
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: haven't really posted on it. I really haven't say anything
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: about it because like I don't even know how to
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: articulate how I feel. It's just it's scary, it's fucking sad, disgusting.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it just it like literally gives me,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: like just make me sick to my stomach. What's happening
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: to people? Because it's just it just feels like something
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: bigger is going on.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: For sure. It feels like we don't have all the information. Yeah,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: like they've just kind of taken like four or five
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: of the constitutional amendments and just flesh.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like little by little, these things are kind
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: of like, oh, we'll take this away, we'll take that away,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: and like how far before we all don't realize that
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: we're like fully like yeah, States, yeah exactly. So like
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: on a bigger note, that's that scares me as well.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I'm just scared of this.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Like I saw a video today of like a five
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: year old kid having to defend himself in court. What. Yeah,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: it was fucking crazy.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I saw the other day that they like took a
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: kid and used them as base, yes, And that shit
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: had me crying, bro, I had me tearing up.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: That's like there's like a footage yesterday that came out
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: there's a detention center in Texas somewhere. They flew a
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: drone over it. But like the lawyer was like trying
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: to get in to talk to somebody who was represented.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: The wouldn't let him in, but you could hear everyone's
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: screaming on the inside, like kids screaming, brought so fucked.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: That's like what are we doing?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Like I don't understand like how humans can we
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: can be so like non compassionate for each other.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah. I just like even on the you know,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: the the dude who just died, you know, it was
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: like it's just funny to watch like people who are
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: like hardcore Second Amendment like advocates like do you know
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: gymnastics to try to make it make sense why that
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: dude deserve to get shot. I'm like, what do we
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: is this America or not? What are we doing?
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: And we're becoming desensitized, I mean because we see this shit.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Every day, Like there's thirteen things a day that pops
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: up where you're like, wait, yes, is this the new normal?
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I felt the same thing was happening with gods Wher.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: It was like is this just like what's going on?
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's like I don't even know, Like it's
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: so much going on in the world, so much like
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: pain that like I don't even know what to feel anymore,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Like it's like too much to take on. Like how
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: do you even.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Feels like you're helpless? Man?
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know if it's the right thing
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: or not, but like I kind of try to like
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: not hear about as much as like.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: If you if I dude, the Twitter doom scroll is
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: it'll put you in a fuck. Yeah.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really try to be a little bit like ignorant,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Like ignorance is bliss. I know that's probably not necessarily good,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: but at this point, like I don't even know what
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: to do, Like we can post about it, like does
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: that do anything? I don't know. Right, it just fucking sucks,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: and I'm just praying for everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you might fud show you my sneaker. Yeah please,
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  Speaker 1: Nike ESB Padriguez one sneaker coming out. Okay, I got you,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I got you. So this this is my first shoe.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: So last year we did a twenty year anniversary. It
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: came out in two thousand and five.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Is it the one of the elephant print?
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah we did that one that was the
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: j rod. Yeah, so I'll just leave.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: It sen Yeah put that up there.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Those are clean, thank you, brother. So last year we
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: came out for the twenty year anniversary was the first
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: ever retro shoe that Nike SB ever did. And this
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: year we're keeping them out, but doing new colorways that
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: we've never done before. And this one is kind of like,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: you know, a homage to Kobe because he was a
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: big inspiration to me growing up.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Yesterday was it was.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: His anniversary of his passing, and so I didn't want
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: to do the standard like you know, Laker color obvious.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: So we thought about it and we went back to
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: the twenty ten All Star jerseys of the West. Yeah,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: and kind of did this shoe that colorway, kind of
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: like just just put a little little homide, you know.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: To like Mama, like the kind of the the stitch.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Pattern, thank you, thank you.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: No, those are clean. So when do those come out?
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: So this will be out February ninth, Right, February ninth,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: it drops, So good luck, thank you, brother, I.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Appreciate what I'm saying, Like, good luck getting your hands
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: on them. Oh you should have sell out immediately.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Noah, No, well we got you. You'll be fine.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: The sb's man.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm super super grateful. I can't believe, you know,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: as a skateboarder twenty years later, still have my name
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: like my shoe, my name on a shoe with Nike, like.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Outside of your own shoes what's your favorite SB ever,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: because there's been some. I mean, fuck, man, you could
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: go down a rabbit hole with that, like.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Man, I mean it would definitely be a dunk. Which
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: one man? Oh, Actually, my favorite dunk I have an
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: answer to that is the the Sea Crystals. The Sea
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Crystal dunks, like when they were like when I first
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: got on Nike, they were they were out and I
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: just remember loving the way they skated. The swede on them.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: It was just and I love the way they looked.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: So I skated the shit out of though I just
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: kept I don't know, I probably must have skated ten
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: to fifteen pairs. I wish I'd have kept them all,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: but hindsight's twenty twenty.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at them right now here.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I remember these, yeah, yeah, yeah, I used to love.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Those kind of like got the you know, like a
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: little Tiffany Tiffany. Yeah, those Tiffany's. Man. I got banned
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: off eBay selling fake ones. Really, I was.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Like seventeen, Hey man, you got a hustle. Got a hustle.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: That's how I got my name back in the day.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Not that it makes sense makes sense.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Not anymore obviously. So February ninth, shoes are coming out.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: That's around the time that the.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: All Star I think All Stars that weekend.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that weekend Star game.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I think they have me going out to do something
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: over there. I'm not sure.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: And then when is the PSL kicking off?
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: The PSL will be February seventh.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, so it's like the same week. You got a
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: big week.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a big next couple of weeks coming up,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: so wish me luck y'all.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Did you guys already you already have like set plan
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: for the PSL shit, Like, do you guys kind of know, like, hey,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: everybody can nail this, it might be a little tough
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: for them to nail it.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, and no, we have a certain idea. I wouldn't
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: call it set because you got to be pretty flexible
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: and fluid. But after the first week I'll probably understand
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: better how to strategize because it's an all new format,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: so we're all learning as we go. So I think
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I got my starter my starter's set, and uh, I
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: strategically chose everybody on my team who skates differently. I
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: didn't want everybody to have all Yeah, if this team
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: hits us with a certain trick, hopefully we got a
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: guy that has that trick as well to defend it. Yeah.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I always wondered, could you define what a poser is
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: from a skater perspective?
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess what some might call, I
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: guess a culture vulture.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Uh, just you know, but but the skate version.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, just you dress like a skater. You I
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: don't know, like might even say that you used to
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: skate and you used to be able to do this,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: and you can't do anything. Yeah, just when you just
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: unnecessarily overly talk yourself up about it when you just
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: don't need to. It's like, it's not that serious, No
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: one's judging you that hard.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Would you say that, Like, if anybody were to say
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: they're a skater that the bare minim they should be
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: able to land as a kickflip.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: No, I think I think that to be to constitute
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: yourself with skaters, just to have a passion for doing
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: it and actually just attempt to do it on a
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: regular basis.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: It's also a means a transportation.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: It is a means a transportation, But that don't make
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: you skate. That just means you, you know, you use
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: your border to get around.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Because They're like, they're the long border chicks, you know
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: what I mean with the dreads and the furry armpits.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking of those ones, but.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: You see these chicks on Vetta's Beach with longboards and
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: you're like.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. When I was coming up like skaters, like
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: thinking about like girl skaters are like, it never seemed appealing,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: but then at some point it started getting pretty right. Yeah,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: so it's all good.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the same thing with it. I feel like that
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: we went through the same thing with the w NBA.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: We grew up and I was like, man, let mean
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: and then w NBA chick should start getting hotter and
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: hotter and you're like.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Damn yeah, which I'm not.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not upsetting anyway. Man, appreciate you pulling up February nine.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: She was coming out the seventh. You guys are competing.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Is that gonna be on TV or YouTube or I'll
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: be live stream YouTube there it is, Man, p Rod,
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Thank you, brother, thank you.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it.