Latest / Brian Thomas / Wednesday's with Judge Napolitano 5/6/2026
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- 0:44Speaker 2: The Judge is next, Chuck Ingram on fifty five KRST
- 0:47Speaker 2: the talk.
- 0:48Speaker 3: Station eight thirty two I fifty five KRCD talk Station
- 0:53Speaker 3: The Judge, of course, Judge Enna Paul Tyne, we are blessed.
- 0:55Speaker 1: I feel I'm blessed.
- 0:56Speaker 3: I know a listening audience is always interested in hearing
- 0:58Speaker 3: what Jude Jenna Paul has the Poultner has to say
- 1:00Speaker 3: about these legal issues that we encounter all the time.
- 1:03Speaker 3: Welcome back judging and a Polatana. Thanks for joining the
- 1:05Speaker 3: show again.
- 1:06Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you, Brian. It's a pleasure to be here.
- 1:08Speaker 4: I'm not sure what Ingram was talking about neither mind.
- 1:11Speaker 4: I do have a friend. I won't tell you who
- 1:12Speaker 4: it is, a well known, well known public figure who
- 1:17Speaker 4: has sambuca with his espresso every morning. But he made
- 1:21Speaker 4: me promise not to say who it is, not me,
- 1:23Speaker 4: because I wouldn't drink at that hour of the day.
- 1:25Speaker 3: No, no, no, I got to wait till at least
- 1:28Speaker 3: ten o'clock in the morning to start getting your drink on.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Judge in these trying.
- 1:33Speaker 4: Times about espresso in.
- 1:36Speaker 1: My column, good for you and your column.
- 1:39Speaker 3: I you know, you know what I wrote on the
- 1:40Speaker 3: top of your column, and I read it yesterday and
- 1:43Speaker 3: I think you made great points there. But for the
- 1:46Speaker 3: grace of God, go anybody that participates in social media
- 1:50Speaker 3: in any way, shape or form. If the government can
- 1:52Speaker 3: go after you for a free speech post, and it's
- 1:56Speaker 3: their decision about what constitutes I guess an actionable offense.
- 2:00Speaker 3: We've got a lot of people that are going to
- 2:01Speaker 3: be hauled in and be subject to criminal prosecution by
- 2:05Speaker 3: the FBI. This is talking about James Comey's I think
- 2:09Speaker 3: vile post about eighty six forty seven, which everyone interpreted,
- 2:13Speaker 3: as you point out in your column, eighty six referring
- 2:15Speaker 3: to basically killing something or not offering anymore, and forty seven,
- 2:19Speaker 3: of course a reference to President Trump. At least that's
- 2:22Speaker 3: how many interpreted it. Judge Jenna Paltano, this is square
- 2:26Speaker 3: in the wheelhouse a protected speech in this country.
- 2:30Speaker 4: Yeah, it absolutely is. When confronted with us on the
- 2:35Speaker 4: Sunday talk shows, Todd blanche, the Acting Attorney General of
- 2:39Speaker 4: the United States, said, well, we have more evidence that
- 2:42Speaker 4: we can't reveal. Well, what more evidence do you have
- 2:45Speaker 4: and why can't you reveal it? How serious a threat
- 2:49Speaker 4: did the government believe this was if they sat on
- 2:52Speaker 4: it for a year and a half before they decided
- 2:56Speaker 4: to do anything about it. This is little more than
- 2:59Speaker 4: the President using the Department of Justice to make life
- 3:03Speaker 4: miserable for a person who made life miserable for him. Yeah,
- 3:07Speaker 4: Jim Comey, and he was the head of the FBI.
- 3:10Speaker 4: I mean, under Jim Comey's stewardship. Mister Donald Trump, we're
- 3:16Speaker 4: back in twenty and fifteen now was surveilled by the government.
- 3:22Speaker 4: I mean, this is now a well established at the
- 3:25Speaker 4: time I made this allegation, I was excoriated at Fox.
- 3:29Speaker 4: But it's now well established that this happened. The President's
- 3:33Speaker 4: animosity board Comy is prof is palpable and understandable.
- 3:41Speaker 3: As much as Comy's as much as Comy's for Trump,
- 3:46Speaker 3: I said, as much as Comy's animosity to Trump, They're on,
- 3:49Speaker 3: They're equal in their dislife.
- 3:52Speaker 4: That does not give the DOJ cart blanche to prosecute
- 3:56Speaker 4: somebody for speech. Look, this was a stupid thing for
- 3:59Speaker 4: him to posted, but stupidity is not a felony.
- 4:03Speaker 2: Right.
- 4:03Speaker 4: But where we couldn't build, we couldn't build enough jails.
- 4:07Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's I was thinking of literally almost every
- 4:09Speaker 3: Hollywood celebrity who came out with something far more vile
- 4:12Speaker 3: than what Cony Coney put up. You know, the severed
- 4:15Speaker 3: head of Donald Trump, you know, in in the in
- 4:17Speaker 3: in that one so called comedian's hand, and you know,
- 4:20Speaker 3: the the suggestions of violence towards Trump. All of every
- 4:24Speaker 3: single human being who did anything like that could be
- 4:26Speaker 3: subject to the same kind of prosecution.
- 4:29Speaker 4: Uh, you're exactly right. So that's why the whole purpose
- 4:34Speaker 4: of the first of the first Amendment is to keep
- 4:36Speaker 4: the government out of the business of speech. So if
- 4:40Speaker 4: I'm haranguing a crowd and Hillary Clinton walks by, and
- 4:46Speaker 4: I say to the crowd, there's Hillary, let's get her,
- 4:49Speaker 4: and the crowd descends on her, I have can be
- 4:52Speaker 4: prosecuted for incitement to violence. But if I'm haranguing a
- 4:56Speaker 4: crowd and I say I wish somebody would get Hillary
- 4:59Speaker 4: Clinton and nobody is around there, it is absolutely protected speech.
- 5:06Speaker 4: In Comee's case, there is no incitement produced by it.
- 5:12Speaker 4: There For the speech is protected, and no matter how vile,
- 5:16Speaker 4: no matter how personal, no matter how off the wall
- 5:20Speaker 4: it may be. That's why we have a First Amendment
- 5:23Speaker 4: to protect the speech we hate. The speech we like
- 5:25Speaker 4: doesn't need any protection.
- 5:27Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the worst example of you know,
- 5:30Speaker 3: hate speech we all can really point to and say,
- 5:33Speaker 3: no one agrees with that clown is that Brandenburg versus
- 5:35Speaker 3: Ohio case where the clan leader was encouraging violence against
- 5:38Speaker 3: blacks and Jewish people. That is protected. Nobody likes the klan,
- 5:42Speaker 3: nobody thinks we should. You know, well, I see nobody
- 5:45Speaker 3: with a broadbrush. But you get the point. If that's protected,
- 5:48Speaker 3: you got to take the good with the bad. That's
- 5:50Speaker 3: the point of the First Amendment.
- 5:52Speaker 4: Correct. Correct. The Brandenburg case, which took place not far
- 5:56Speaker 4: from where you are now, is the classic defense of
- 6:00Speaker 4: free speech. He's in Ohio, he encourages violence against blacks
- 6:05Speaker 4: and Jewish people in Washington, d C. No violence comes about.
- 6:10Speaker 4: The Supreme Court says, this speech was inoculus, and all
- 6:13Speaker 4: innocuous speech is protected, and all speeches innocuous when there
- 6:17Speaker 4: is time for more speech to rebt, reject and neutralize it,
- 6:21Speaker 4: which in the Brandenburg case there was. He was convicted
- 6:24Speaker 4: in an Ohio trial court. His conviction was upheld in
- 6:29Speaker 4: an Ohio appellate court. The Ohio Supreme Court refused to
- 6:33Speaker 4: hear his appeal. He filed an appeal to the Supreme
- 6:36Speaker 4: Court of the United States, which unanimously reversed his conviction.
- 6:41Speaker 4: End of story.
- 6:42Speaker 1: End of story.
- 6:43Speaker 3: It's on the books and it's been the law since
- 6:45Speaker 3: what nineteen sixty nine? So with that guy in mind,
- 6:49Speaker 3: I got to ask them goohead.
- 6:52Speaker 4: I also found a case I didn't know existed when
- 6:55Speaker 4: doing my research of some kid he was a kid
- 6:58Speaker 4: at the time, might age now who when drafted in
- 7:03Speaker 4: nineteen sixty six that a Senate the government puts a
- 7:05Speaker 4: rifle on my hand LBJLB in my cross. Here he
- 7:09Speaker 4: was convicted for threatening to kill the president of the
- 7:12Speaker 4: United States, unanimously reversed by the Supreme Court.
- 7:17Speaker 3: Of course, this isn't support for threatening to kill the
- 7:19Speaker 3: president of the United States of America, but it is
- 7:21Speaker 3: a reflection of how broad our free speech rights are protected.
- 7:26Speaker 3: Correct you don't want If you don't like that, then
- 7:28Speaker 3: go ahead and move to the United Kingdom, where you
- 7:30Speaker 3: have no free speech rights. Unfortunately, briefly though, because you
- 7:35Speaker 3: and I are speaking right now to a listening audience
- 7:37Speaker 3: that I'm sure is not comprised of a bunch of
- 7:38Speaker 3: James Comy fans, most notably given the Russia Gate and
- 7:41Speaker 3: all the links he has to that. Of course he's
- 7:43Speaker 3: subject to a DOJ subpoena in connection with that. All
- 7:46Speaker 3: of our popcorn out collectively waiting to find out what
- 7:48Speaker 3: that reveals. But pivoting back to your comment about other evidence, well,
- 7:52Speaker 3: you don't have all of the information in reference to
- 7:54Speaker 3: Comey's eighty six forty two post. Wouldn't that information be
- 7:58Speaker 3: in the the indictment or the criminal charge? What's missing
- 8:04Speaker 3: here on that?
- 8:06Speaker 4: It's not, which is why those of us who monitor
- 8:09Speaker 4: it for a living, or questioning what the heck is
- 8:13Speaker 4: Todd Blinch talking about. If they have evidence that he
- 8:15Speaker 4: planned and plotted to harm the president or oblies to
- 8:19Speaker 4: lay that evidence out in the indictment and it's not there.
- 8:23Speaker 1: Well, I guess sounds me like a motion to dismiss.
- 8:28Speaker 4: Well, emotion to dismiss is coming, probably on First Amendment grounds,
- 8:33Speaker 4: and that will force the government to cough up whatever
- 8:36Speaker 4: else it has. And then if it's anything substantial, and
- 8:39Speaker 4: I can't imagine what it could be, but if it's
- 8:41Speaker 4: something substantial and credible, then company's lawyers will have to
- 8:44Speaker 4: deal with it, and I'll have to reevaluate what I said.
- 8:47Speaker 4: Maybe this is not a First Amendment case, but on
- 8:50Speaker 4: the basis of the indictment, the charge inst him this
- 8:55Speaker 4: is pure speech and it's absolutely protected in his speech
- 8:58Speaker 4: and speak alone, unaccompanied by any other behavior alleged in
- 9:03Speaker 4: the indictment.
- 9:04Speaker 3: Well, I will note that even if it is not
- 9:06Speaker 3: a free speech case, ultimately your comments provide a wonderful
- 9:11Speaker 3: The indictment based upon your perception serves as a wonderful
- 9:14Speaker 3: springboard to remind us how broad our free speech rights are.
- 9:17Speaker 3: And again, thank God, for it real quick here, If
- 9:20Speaker 3: swirling in the background of all this is the burn
- 9:22Speaker 3: bag stuff, the Russia gate bag, that apparently on some
- 9:25Speaker 3: level may reveal that this was a concerted, coordinated plot
- 9:30Speaker 3: by folks in the Justice Department to go after Donald Trump.
- 9:34Speaker 3: If that is true, and maybe some of the subpoene
- 9:36Speaker 3: information and the research will will bear that out, is
- 9:40Speaker 3: that a prosecutable offense, the coordinated effort to undermine Donald Trump?
- 9:45Speaker 4: Not anymore because the statummentations this five years than it's.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Past missed opportunity.
- 9:52Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it would have to have been done in
- 9:57Speaker 4: the Biden administration or in the first year of the
- 10:01Speaker 4: Trump administration. But it's more than five years since all
- 10:05Speaker 4: this happened.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Yeah, why why the.
- 10:09Speaker 4: Trump DOJ sat on it? It tells me either they
- 10:13Speaker 4: had other priorities or there's no there there.
- 10:16Speaker 3: Yeah, and this burn Bag, with all this juicy information,
- 10:19Speaker 3: it sounds like it's a brand new breaking story now.
- 10:21Speaker 3: They found this last year. Even Caspi tell even said
- 10:24Speaker 3: an interview last year that you're going to see everything
- 10:27Speaker 3: we found in that room one way or another. But
- 10:29Speaker 3: as of at least the time of our current conversation,
- 10:32Speaker 3: Judge of Platano. I haven't seen any documents, and I
- 10:35Speaker 3: don't believe that any documents have been released from that
- 10:37Speaker 3: burn bag hm.
- 10:38Speaker 4: You know, mate, worse than making a promise and not
- 10:41Speaker 4: keeping it, it is making a promise that cannot be kept.
- 10:44Speaker 4: I don't know why they keep boasting about what's going
- 10:47Speaker 4: to come out, just like with Epstein, Yes, and then
- 10:49Speaker 4: nothing is there.
- 10:50Speaker 3: I know I wrote at the top of the article
- 10:53Speaker 3: about that Epstein files. Question mark, Judge.
- 10:56Speaker 4: Edited, did you know that the government released jfk assassination
- 11:01Speaker 4: files there was nothing there, meaning the CIA or somebody
- 11:05Speaker 4: denuded the files before they were released.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Yep. Well maybe there's a room.
- 11:10Speaker 3: It's not on any any blueprint where those documents are
- 11:14Speaker 3: being held currently. Judgment Poulatan like this burn bag room.
- 11:18Speaker 3: Judge of Paulaitano, it's Judging Freedom the Man's podcast. You
- 11:21Speaker 3: got to check it out throughout the week, Judge of Pultana,
- 11:23Speaker 3: who are you going to speaking with today?
- 11:25Speaker 4: I have a professor Muhammad Mirandi born in Alexandria, Virginia,
- 11:30Speaker 4: now professor of literature at the University of Tehran, who
- 11:34Speaker 4: comes on with me nest Wednesday to tell me about
- 11:37Speaker 4: life in Iran. To the professor Glenn Dieson from Norway
- 11:43Speaker 4: who fills us in on the European reaction to the
- 11:46Speaker 4: war in Iran and the war in Ukraine. Pepe esco
- 11:51Speaker 4: bar from Beijing. And Phil Geraldi, the CIA agent whom
- 11:57Speaker 4: was kicked out of his office when he told him
- 11:59Speaker 4: what we now well, No, that Saddam Lussein did not
- 12:02Speaker 4: have weapons of mass destruction.
- 12:03Speaker 3: Yeah, another regular guest on a Wednesdays on your show.
- 12:05Speaker 3: As I've come to understand, we'll check it out. Judging Freedom,
- 12:08Speaker 3: Judge of Politano. Tune in every Wednesday at a thirty
- 12:12Speaker 3: for the legal analysis from our dear friend, the Judge
- 12:14Speaker 3: of Polaitano. Have a great week, my friend. We'll talk
- 12:17Speaker 3: again next week.
- 12:18Speaker 4: Back at you, Brian, Thank you all, thanks, thank you,