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Best and Worst: Pop Culture Parents · Pop Culture Junkie®

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  ♪ Entertain me, entertain me right now ♪
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  - It is time for another episode of Pop Culture Junkie.
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  We are so glad that you're here.
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  I'm Shauna.
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  - And I'm Olivia.
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  - Olivia, I have fabulous news for you.
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  - Ooh.
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  - So remember the one reason I was mad at you
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  a couple episodes ago?
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  - Lady Gaga.
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  - Yes, she just announced that she is coming
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  to Gleendale, Arizona.
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  - Nice.
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  - Oh, did you get tickets?
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  I already told Andrew, I don't care how much these are.
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  I don't care.
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  This can be my birthday present.
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  This can be our anniversary present.
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  I'm buying a ticket to Lady Gaga.
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  Like, it's happening.
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  It's happening.
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  - If you do not win the beautiful ticket master queue,
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  do not feel a deep sense of loss
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  because you can do what I did
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  and just buy tickets like day of.
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  But the sense of knowing really does matter
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  that you're like, yeah, I'm going.
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  That's amazing.
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  Manifested it.
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  - Yeah, I'm manifest.
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  Right, I can't believe she hasn't been in Arizona in years.
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  So I'm very excited.
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  I'm trying to convince Jessica and Heather
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  and my sister-in-law, Alyssa, to go with me.
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  So just see how that'll be so fun.
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  - I'm hoping that they're like max 350.
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  That might be the point where I'm like, oh.
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  - I think if you win the ticket master queue
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  and are blessed by the gods,
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  you can definitely pay under that.
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  Like I paid 250 for Taylor and they weren't like amazing seats
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  but I paid 250 at base price in an arena
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  but she's in a stadium.
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  So it is smaller.
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  She's not in an arena but yeah,
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  I think you could definitely do it at CQ50.
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  - CQ50.
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  - She's selling the tickets at.
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  But then also you could get under 350 day of
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  or like week of those drop a lot.
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  I can't panic like that.
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  I need to buy my outfit.
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  I need to have like the whole thing planned.
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  Where are we pre-gaming?
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  Where are we taking kicks at?
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  All of the above.
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  So.
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  - Yes, if you don't,
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  but like I would say if you don't win the ticket master thing
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  like you shouldn't buy them at all.
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  Like from just a time they go on sale.
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  - Just wait until the week of because this is for anyone.
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  That's when they drop.
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  So a bunch of ticket resellers buy all of the tickets.
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  And then if you just wait till week of they drop them like
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  crazy like Taylor Swift.
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  The tickets that I got were like $5,000.
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  And they dropped to like 800.
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  So it is just like, you know,
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  you gotta play that game.
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  But I feel like you will win the ticket lottery.
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  - So, I've been a very good little monster all year.
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  Oh, she was so good at the VMAs.
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  Did you watch the VMAs?
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  - I watched clips and I wanted to actually talk about the VMAs
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  because why did they put the glam filter on everyone?
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  What was going on with people's faces?
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  It was so weird.
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  - Yeah, and I agree.
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  I didn't watch the whole thing.
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  I didn't just sit down like I don't have cable
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  and it was on CBS this year.
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  I'm sure it's because nobody watches MTV anymore.
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  All they play are like reruns of wild and out like all day.
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  Like over and over.
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  But I watched the clips.
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  And I think obviously Gaga killed it.
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  Ricky Martin did a really good job
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  and he looks incredible.
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  - My friend was live texting me because she's like live.
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  It is so weird.
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  Like why is Ricky Martin performing?
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  She said Mariah Carey was a little odd
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  the way that she did it.
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  And then I just saw a clip of like Ariana.
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  And you know what?
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  I call her party city skeleton because you know,
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  the weight loss is insane.
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  Ariana literally runs across the stage
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  like a party city skeleton would be made to run.
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  - Yes. - To Mariah.
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  It was very interesting.
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  It felt like a weird universe.
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  And we were watching like all of the 2000s people.
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  Like it was just kind of interesting.
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  I mean, the MTV music awards is really trying to
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  like capture that heyday.
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  I will say though, Sabrina and Taster was so good.
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  I love you.
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  - Sabrina did a great job.
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  I totally agree that it was Millennial Beat.
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  Because I think we crave like nostalgia.
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  So yeah, I was, you know,
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  Gaga's in the prime of her career right now,
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  but she was popular in the, you know, 2010s.
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  Mariah Carey, Ricky Martin, like you said.
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  But then we also had Doja, Sabrina,
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  Katzai, who my husband's obsessed with.
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  God.
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  - I get it.
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  You got to do that.
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  - That gap.
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  - I watched it a lot.
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  - Watched it a lot.
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  - But no, so Sabrina's did taste and we love a girl
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  who supports the dolls on TV.
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  - Oh no, she's tears.
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  - Oh, she's tears.
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  - Why did I, I did that last time too when I was like,
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  - I mean, but you have to watch this,
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  this music video called Taste.
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  - So this is an old-timey voice and I do whatever this is.
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  It's my PayPal.
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  No, but he has a little,
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  people has a little like Southern flare, you know?
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  - This intro is so random.
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  But Shawna came to San Francisco.
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  And one thing about San Francisco in California
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  is Gavin Newsom is just being an absolute terror
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  to Republicans and I absolutely love it.
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  And the other day, he actually posted this like,
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  MAGA like meme and it was Make America Gavin again.
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  And that's what I'm just gonna think about
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  because you know what, bring back hot presidents.
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  I need a hot president.
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  - Oh my God, yes.
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  - I want a hot president.
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  Obama was so hot.
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  Kennedy was hot.
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  - Bomb. - Y'all ain't Joe Biden.
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  Hot.
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  - Yep.
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  - I mean, not another one that we thought
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  was kind of oddly hot too.
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  Now I don't remember.
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  - I mean, this is traitorous to say,
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  but Reagan was a movie star before he was a president.
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  - That's fair.
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  - He was a truck driver.
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  - But yeah, you know, I just bring me back
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  a good-looking president.
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  If you're gonna be evil,
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  that'd be hot.
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  - George W.
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  - In a certain way,
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  - Compton,
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  - Yeah. - We're not now.
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  - Not now, but coked out George W. Bush.
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  - Music, oh, tell.
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  - I probably did George W. Bush.
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  (laughing)
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  - Yeah, it was in college.
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  So that's the time period.
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  Maybe not now.
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  Him and Ellen are just alone in a room.
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  - Mike's still young.
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  - Mike's still young.
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  (laughing)
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  - Oh my gosh.
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  - Porsches there, just like stealing it
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  so she can stay skinny.
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  (laughing)
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  - What is this intro?
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  - What is this intro?
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  - Okay, I have no segue.
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  I'm sorry.
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  - No, we have to talk about how you came to San Francisco.
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  That was,
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  - Oh yeah, I did.
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  - I came to San Francisco.
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  - And it was so cool.
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  - It was beautiful.
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  We had her dance in a hippie circle
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  on hippie hill in Golden Gate Park.
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  She stole wine from the women's pool.
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  (laughing)
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  Listen, I went to go find a bathroom
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  and I wandered into a women's bowling league in the park
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  and they were having like a pop luck
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  and so I went inside and they had boxed wine
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  and I went, don't mind it, I do.
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  And it was the most buttery disgusting shard
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  and I have ever had.
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  - It was bad, it was really bad.
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  I was like, no, I want those things free.
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  - It was free and I wandered into a hippie drum circle
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  that the lady who was there said that they've been doing
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  every weekend since 1967.
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  So that was pretty cool.
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  - What else do we do?
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  We went to the Goth Club.
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  That was beautiful.
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  I took Shawna to the metal bar.
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  - Yeah.
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  - And it was like a DJ, and there was no metal band.
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  I was quite upset.
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  - I don't believe you that that's a metal bar.
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  Every time you've taken me, there's like a like
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  - It's so weird.
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  - It's like a tone DJ.
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  - It's so weird.
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  Like all this entire week, they had metal bands like every night.
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  And then every time you came, Stephanie came,
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  and then when you all came for your birthday,
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  it was like a weird disco night.
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  I don't know.
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  - We're not allowed to see the metal bands.
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  - They said your anti-metal, I don't know, I can't do it.
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  We went to the gay bars, that was super fun.
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  - We ate a lot of food.
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  - We went to Shawna Town, it was so fun.
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  - Shawna Town and then Shawna and I had our titular.
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  - Yeah, we Sunday morning woke up violently hung over
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  when we were supposed to get seafood.
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  We were supposed to take the ferry to Tiburon and get seafood.
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  And last time Shawna was here, I was so hung over
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  that I could not look at a noister, think of that one.
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  I was like, I will die.
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  So I woke up that morning and I was like,
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  oh, I don't know if I could get on a ferry right now
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  and Shawna just like blunders out of the guest room
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  and is like, I can't get on a boat.
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  - We're not getting on a boat today.
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  - I was like, we went to some buses and walked to brunch.
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  Not even brunch, we got like sandwiches and coffee
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  and then said, do you wanna go back to bed?
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  (laughing)
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  And most of us like to bed for like three hours.
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  - I was so hung over, I was wearing these sunglasses
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  and I looked like John Lennon.
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  - Very sexy, it was sexy John Lennon.
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  - Dead or alive John Lennon, I don't know.
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  - Oh, you were dead.
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  - John Lennon, I said.
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  You were post-mortem for sure, but we were.
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  But we had a wonderful, after we recovered.
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  - Yes, we rallied and we had a simply lovely day.
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  - I know, I miss you already.
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  - Yes, yes.
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  - You had just come back.
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  - Yeah.
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  - Clearly when I hang out on a bread.
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  - I really do wanna hang out on a bread day.
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  I'm just gonna come over on bread.
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  - Okay, I'll come and see you.
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  (laughing)
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  - She's on her way.
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  - You know what else would be fun to do?
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  Visit your parents.
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  - Your parents.
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  - Your parents?
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  - Visit your parents.
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  (laughing)
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  - We sure do love our parents.
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  So after the break, we are,
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  (laughing)
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  after this break, we are gonna talk about some
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  of the best and worst pop culture parents.
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  I'm so sorry about that terrible segue.
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  - We're going on a run-it.
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  (laughing)
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  (dramatic music)
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  - Okay, so today we're gonna look at the mamas
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  and the poppas and I do not mean the 1960s rock band.
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  We are gonna talk about the best and worst parents
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  in pop culture.
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  So TV and film have given us some very memorable mothers
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  and fathers, but who are the best and who are the worst?
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  What qualities separate the warm supportive parents
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  from the ones who traumatize their children?
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  Mufasa by dying.
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  It's been traumatizing.
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  (laughing)
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  - You know, it's quite rude of him.
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  - What?
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  The audacity.
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  What do you think makes, I guess,
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  neither of us are parents.
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  And neither of us really plan to become parents.
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  So what do you think makes a good pop culture parent?
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  - So yeah, I think the question of being a parent,
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  is so complex.
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  And I do think that as millennials,
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  we have, are really kind of that first generation to say,
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  or maybe Gen X, are the first generation to be like,
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  oh, maybe I don't wanna have kids,
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  because the impact that I can have on that person through life,
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  and like really, you know, for lack of a better word,
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  like mess them up forever.
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  - Yeah.
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  - And I think that, you know, a lot of that comes
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  from us being the first generation
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  with better access to mental health
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  and really examining like talk therapy
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  and things like that.
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  Now, a lot of people would be like, well,
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  you know, snowflakes, you know,
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  that did the best I can, whatever it is.
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  And I do think that being a parent is mainly showing up
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  and being there and like trying to guide your child
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  on the best path.
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  And I think one of the hardest parts about growing up
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  is realizing that your parents are just people.
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  - Yeah.
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  - So I think that it is quite hard
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  in like meaningful TV and movies and film
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  to really portray an accurate human experience
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  and have a perfect parent.
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  And so what was interesting when we were actually
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  doing this episode and thinking about it,
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  I had a much easier time coming up with the worst parents.
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  - Oh my God, me too.
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  - I mean, I did the best parents.
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  - I could name a million terrible pop culture parents,
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  but then I was like, good.
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  And I think that's because to be a good parent,
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  sometimes you just have to be a parent, right?
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  Like there's a lot of pop culture parents
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  who are just, they're there and they're not good or bad,
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  which probably means they're pretty good.
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  The bad ones, it's like, you know, mommy dearest
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  and like the mom from precious, like you have to be really bad.
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  (laughing)
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  And then like those are really memorable
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  because you're like, oh, they were terrible.
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  But that's interesting that you say that growing up
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  is realizing your parents are people too.
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  It's like when I hang out with my sister-in-law and her husband
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  and we're like with their kids,
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  and we're all 36 years old and we're like drinking
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  and watching movies with them.
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  And I'm like, this is just like if, I don't know,
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  our parents were hanging out with their friends
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  and they're in laws like when we were kids.
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  And it's, I don't know, now that we're that age,
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  it feels kind of strange, right?
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  And I have to keep reminding myself
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  that I'm old enough to have like a teenager.
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  Yeah, when I meet people who are my age
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  and they're like, oh, I'm dropping on my kid at school
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  and I'm like, how old's a little Timmy?
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  And they're like 17.
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  (laughing)
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  And I'm like, how on earth do you have a set?
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  Uh, okay, yeah, yeah, that makes it.
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  You know, like I picture everybody just having
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  little bouncing babies, but no, we are old enough
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  to have teenagers.
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  - Yeah, absolutely.
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  And so, you know, I think that good,
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  like a good stable home, like what I think
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  makes like a good parent in real life
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  probably isn't gonna be made into a movie or a TV show.
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  - Yeah, unless it's boring.
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  - Yeah, it's a sitcom.
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  You have like the boy meets world parents
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  and they're delightful, you know,
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  and everybody knows in fresh prints.
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  - Yeah, like the seventh heaven dad.
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  (laughing)
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  - Except for you're not allowed to do drugs
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  in the seventh heaven home.
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  - I see. - Yeah.
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  - Good parents like you do drugs and shot us in the first.
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  - Good parents like to smoke a little bit of weed.
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  - Okay. - So it's good to know.
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  - That's very good to know.
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  - But yeah, you know, I think it is,
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  like we'll talk a little bit about our choices
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  and the people we wanna talk about.
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  It was kind of interesting to me to look at that
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  and think about which ones I thought were like good.
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  - Yeah. - Absolutely.
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  - Funny ones.
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  - I named one that we'll get to here in a second
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  that I thought was good and I was telling Andrew
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  and he goes, wait, I think they're pretty terrible.
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  And I was like, that's a very good person.
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  - Yeah, that's our view.
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  I was talking with my coworker about one of them
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  and she was like, yeah, I don't think he's great.
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  Okay, that's good.
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  - It's interesting. - It's a topic.
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  So do we wanna start with the worst of?
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  - Yeah.
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  So we have each come up with a list
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  of our favorite moms and dads
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  and the ones we hate the most.
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  And we're gonna get more into that.
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  - Speak for yourself,
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  'cause my parents will send it to this.
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  - Oh God, I know they do.
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  Hi, Mr. and Mrs. Rody, you guys are fabulous.
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  (laughs)
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  You guys are wonderful.
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  Okay, do we wanna start with our...
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  - Let's start with the best,
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  'cause I think the worst is more fun.
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  - Okay. - So let's start with our best.
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  So the one that I just mentioned that I said
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  was one of the best families.
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  Andrew said he thinks that they are not good parents.
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  And I think that's pretty controversial,
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  because I picked Gomez and Morticia Adams
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  from the Adams family.
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  - Okay.
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  - So Gomez and Morticia have been portrayed across decades.
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  They've been played by John Aston and Carolyn Jones
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  in the TV series in the '60s.
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  Raul Hulia and Angelica Houston in 1991 in 1993.
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  And here in Wednesday, they are played by Louise Guzman
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  and Catherine Zadredroans.
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  ♪ She dips beneath laser ♪
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  - I'm so glad you know that reference.
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  Every time I see her, I go,
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  ♪ She ducks beneath laser ♪
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  - It's dips.
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  - It's dips. - It's dips.
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  - Okay. - Yeah.
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  ♪ She dips beneath lasers ♪
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  - That's so tight butthole.
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  - Super tight, we have that loose butthole.
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  We need to get to that tight butthole.
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  Anyway.
• 17:42
  - Anybody who's talking about workaholics.
• 17:44
  - We're talking about workaholics.
• 17:45
  - It's like, what the fuck are they talking about?
• 17:47
  Okay.
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  Well, delightfully macabre,
• 17:50
  they are unwaveringly loving towards their children.
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  Gomez and Morticia, that is not the workaholics.
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  They encourage their individuality
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  and they create one of pop culture's most supportive
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  and eccentric households.
• 18:03
  Andrew said he doesn't think they're good parents
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  because they allow their children to torture each other
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  and they feed them bugs and roadkill.
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  And I said in their household, that's all like love, though.
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  - That's true.
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  - They love torturing each other
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  and they love eating bugs and roadkill.
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  And he's like, yeah, but like,
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  Pugsley and Wednesday wouldn't love being tortured
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  if their parents hadn't raised them to enjoy being tortured.
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  - Hamid, I hate when I hate when I have to agree with a man.
• 18:37
  - Yeah.
• 18:38
  - But I never thought of it like that.
• 18:41
  And I was like, is he just, okay, I would say.
• 18:44
  - I would say, I'm a child out of his family.
• 18:47
  - Yeah, like Andrew's thinking about about breaking toxic family
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  cycles and like, those things, which find,
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  but we are also in a universe where like a hand
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  can freely run around.
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  But I would say that a lot of people think of them as good parents
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  because they like support their children
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  and their like, weirdness and allow them
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  to like be who they want to be.
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  And so it's not necessarily like controlling
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  and they teach them to push the status quo
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  and not go with those things.
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  So I think you can, it's really kind of like glass F.O. glass F.M.D.
• 19:24
  - Yeah.
• 19:25
  - But yeah, and in this world would be weird.
• 19:29
  - I agree.
• 19:30
  - So you like getting called.
• 19:31
  - Yeah, in this world, if you let your children
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  like put each other in electric chairs and play around
• 19:37
  and I think Hugsley mentioned that his punishment
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  in the last episode of Wednesday, I watched was like,
• 19:42
  what's it called a stretching rack
• 19:44
  or something that they did like, mild evil times?
• 19:46
  I don't know.
• 19:47
  They use medieval torture devices,
• 19:49
  but they seem to really like it.
• 19:51
  - Yeah.
• 19:52
  - So yeah.
• 19:53
  - I don't know.
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  But I put them as one of the best parents.
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  I think that if Wednesday or Hugsley came home
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  to their parents and were like, were gay,
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  their parents would be like,
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  "Oh, how delightful my darlings."
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  You know, like they wouldn't care.
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  - Yeah.
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  - My next example of a great parent is actually a parent figure.
• 20:13
  So Aunt May from the Spider-Man universe.
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  So Aunt May is a preer to cross comics since 1962
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  an animated series and live action films.
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  Her portrayals have included Rosemary Harris
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  and Sam Rainey's trilogy and most recently Marissa Tome
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  and the MCU or as Tony calls her, Peter's Hot Ant.
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  So she embodies strength.
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  She raises Peter with wisdom and care after the death of his parents
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  and after the death of Uncle Ben.
• 20:43
  It's really just her impeter.
• 20:45
  In some instances, she knows that he's Spider-Man
• 20:48
  and then another she doesn't or in the Sam Rainey films,
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  she just really suspected it.
• 20:54
  - Her spidey senses were big.
• 20:56
  - Yeah.
• 20:57
  But she's always supportive of him being Spider-Man
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  and of protecting the city.
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  She's never like, "You're gonna get hurt.
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  "You need to stop this."
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  She's like, "The people need you."
• 21:06
  The people need Spider-Man.
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  - Also as soon as child and danger met.
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  - Oh shit.
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  God, she's right.
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  - She's like, "Get on that high service and jump."
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  - Go on out there, buddy.
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  Go to outer space.
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  - I think she would have been a little nervous
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  if she knew the Peter went out to outer space and in game,
• 21:24
  but whatever.
• 21:25
  But yes, it was very supportive.
• 21:26
  - Oh, she's very supportive.
• 21:27
  - Spider-Man go to space, but I've literally seen that one.
• 21:31
  - You've seen those movies, very close to space.
• 21:33
  And Tony gets really mad at him too.
• 21:35
  - I mean, in my defense, they're doing a lot, not one.
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  - There is a lot of characters in space in that movie.
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  - But I think that Aunt May is an example of a great parent.
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  My final best parents, I chose Joyce Byers
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  from Stranger Things.
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  - Yep, keep going.
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  - Great mom.
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  So Joyce Byers is played by a one owner, writer.
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  She is a central figure in Stranger Things,
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  which has been running since 2016 and is ending up this year.
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  So from the very beginning, she refuses to give up
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  when Will goes missing.
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  That's like the central theme of season one
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  is Will is missing.
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  Everybody thinks that he's dead and she will not give up on him.
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  She strings those Christmas lights around her house very famously
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  and is able to communicate with Will from the upside down.
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  And eventually convinces other people that he's still alive to,
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  even though the town is kind of questioning her sanity.
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  Her fierce determination and unconditional love
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  make her one of the most relatable
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  and heroic TV moms in recent history.
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  And when owner writer is just so likable and so sweet and quirky
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  and I love Joyce Byers and can't wait to see
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  what she is going to do in this final season.
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  - I love it.
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  Yeah, I am cookie lady.
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  - Cookie cookie lady.
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  - Joyce Byers are one out of writer.
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  - Both by...
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  (laughing)
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  - She was on my runner up list.
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  So for best parents, I said earlier,
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  I think it's really hard to like capture a great parent
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  or a great like family system.
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  But this is by an author they who must not be named.
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  And yes, I'm calling them they because they would hate it.
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  - I guess they fucking would.
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  - But I think that a really great example of parents
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  who actually like parent their children
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  and try to do best by their child
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  with what they have in the ability to provide
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  is Molly and Arthur Weasley.
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  I think that not just to their like seven million children
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  that they have, they also take Harry
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  and they also take her money in quite a bit as well
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  because she's kind of like this outcast.
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  And I think that as a whole, you know,
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  the Weasley's are portrayed as like poor
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  and they do what they can with and provide so much love
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  to their children and even with less means than other people.
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  So I do think that they are a great example
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  of, you know, a mother and a father.
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  That are both really good parents.
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  I do think that in pop culture and media,
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  a lot of the time it's like one standout parent
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  who, but both of them together are like a good, good unit.
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  So I agree. I love them as parents.
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  - A good example.
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  - But they had to be like, and they're poor.
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  (laughing)
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  - You can't be rich and a good parent
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  and you just suck your like, drako's parents.
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  Do you love the line from Molly Weasley?
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  Not my daughter, you bitch right before she kills Bellatrix.
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  So good.
• 24:56
  - So good. So good. Yeah.
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  And like actually someone who's like parenting their child
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  like with the talking male and it's like,
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  "No, I'm Weasley."
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  - Yeah.
• 25:07
  - Maybe I relate to that so much,
• 25:09
  but because my mom does like the southern version of that
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  where she's like, "A Libyan Maray."
• 25:14
  (laughing)
• 25:15
  - Oh my God, that sounded just like your mom.
• 25:17
  That was wonderful.
• 25:18
  - It really did. Yeah.
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  It's like my friends do it to me who know my mom
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  from like childhood because they would hear her yell at me.
• 25:25
  - Autumn and they always do it to like mess with me.
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  And it's like, "I'm gonna get the full name."
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  When I get that Shauna Marie, I know too.
• 25:33
  - Yeah.
• 25:34
  - Yeah.
• 25:35
  - "A Libyan Maray Rowdy."
• 25:36
  - Yeah.
• 25:37
  - So really going into it.
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  - And then, you know, I realized
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  when I was coming up with my other two good parents,
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  they're literally the same character,
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  but in different fonts.
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  - And I would say these different fonts are East Coast
• 25:52
  and West Coast.
• 25:53
  - And so it's too pocket biggie.
• 25:56
  (laughing)
• 25:58
  - Daddy, no, the first one is gonna be Sandy Cohen
• 26:03
  from the OC.
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  - I love Sandy Cohen.
• 26:08
  - Yeah, portrayed by Peter Gallagher.
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  So he is the father of Seth Cohen
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  who is ultimately like still my dream guy.
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  I think, Bebe, he's so good.
• 26:21
  So good.
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  Adam Brody, it brought him to us.
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  He is such a good parent.
• 26:26
  He also takes in Ryan, who is a misfortune at child,
• 26:31
  takes him out of his wing.
• 26:33
  Apparently, I really like this parent who taken,
• 26:36
  you know, lost children.
• 26:37
  - I love that.
• 26:38
  I think that's so sweet.
• 26:39
  I love Sandy Cohen.
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  And I love his eyebrows.
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  And I remember being so attracted to him.
• 26:45
  - It was on the OC.
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  - So hot.
• 26:47
  - Understanding dad.
• 26:48
  - Yeah.
• 26:49
  - Understanding dad.
• 26:50
  - Literally, yep.
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  And it doesn't even, you know, takes in Ryan.
• 26:54
  And they race him like their own son.
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  And Ryan goes on to live a great life in the end of the show.
• 26:59
  So.
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  - Yeah, lives in a very affluent zip code as well.
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  And so, you know, I think Sandy Cohen is just great,
• 27:07
  great parenting throughout the show as well.
• 27:10
  And just like very understanding.
• 27:12
  - Yeah.
• 27:13
  - Try to see his children where they are.
• 27:15
  A whole of them to a high expectation.
• 27:17
  But, you know, is understanding when they don't meet it.
• 27:19
  - Yeah.
• 27:20
  - So I think that makes a great parent.
• 27:22
  And then my other one, which is Sam Men in a different font on the East Coast is Rufus
• 27:29
  from Gossip Girl.
• 27:30
  - Ooh, I never watched Gossip Girl.
• 27:32
  - But I like that Rufus.
• 27:33
  - You kidding me?
• 27:34
  I was too focused on the OC.
• 27:35
  - I was too focused on the OC.
• 27:36
  - No.
• 27:37
  - I couldn't.
• 27:38
  - No.
• 27:39
  - No.
• 27:40
  - No.
• 27:41
  No.
• 27:42
  You need to stop everything you're doing watching.
• 27:44
  It's so good.
• 27:45
  - Do you know?
• 27:46
  - I can't believe we've never seen that.
• 27:47
  - Do you know?
• 27:48
  - Are you doing... - Maybe I'll give it a whirl.
• 27:50
  - You're even a Lord. - Yeah, I should go lots.
• 27:53
  - Yeah, even Cheryl agrees that you should rewatch it.
• 27:56
  Or you should watch it. - Literally.
• 27:58
  - Okay. So good. Still so good.
• 28:01
  I rewatch it like every one to two years.
• 28:04
  It's amazing. - Damn.
• 28:06
  - So maybe I'll give it a whirl.
• 28:07
  - Yeah and it's just iconic piece of 2010 TV.
• 28:11
  But, okay, so Rufus Humphrey is the father of Dan and Jenny.
• 28:17
  And you can't control me, Todd.
• 28:20
  He is the parent of that famous quote from Gossip Girl
• 28:26
  of Jenny Humphrey, really pushing against being parented.
• 28:31
  But really in this world of Gossip Girl's upper east side
• 28:35
  of New York, he is also the poor parent apparently.
• 28:38
  - Oh. - I'm sensing some through lines here.
• 28:41
  - No, Sandy Cohen's loaded.
• 28:44
  But he is not actually the rich one, his wife is rich.
• 28:47
  - Oh, damn, you right, you right.
• 28:50
  - Yeah, which now that I know you haven't actually seen Gossip Girl.
• 28:53
  But, okay.
• 28:54
  So Rufus Humphrey is very understanding.
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  He lives in Brooklyn.
• 28:58
  He owns property in New York.
• 28:59
  And I'm gonna say that before I get into it.
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  But he is the poor parent of all of these
• 29:05
  really, really rich upper east ciders.
• 29:07
  And he is the only present parent for the most part.
• 29:11
  Things change as the seasons go on.
• 29:14
  But Rufus, just so good, such a daddy too.
• 29:18
  - Is he cute? - Matt.
• 29:19
  - Yeah.
• 29:20
  - Matthew's settled.
• 29:21
  I need to Google this.
• 29:23
  - Yes, he plays him.
• 29:25
  I'm into it.
• 29:26
  If I can go over to my friend's house
• 29:29
  and her dad looked like that.
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  Be there every night.
• 29:32
  I'd be having that with me.
• 29:34
  - Oh, she's so cute.
• 29:35
  - Yeah.
• 29:36
  - So very do it.
• 29:38
  - So I want a hot understanding, dad.
• 29:42
  - I don't want my dad to be hot.
• 29:44
  I want my friend to have a hot understanding, dad.
• 29:46
  - Yeah, I just want my dad to be understanding.
• 29:49
  - But by that, if your dad's hot, aren't you also hot?
• 29:53
  Like I don't need to see my dad as hot,
• 29:55
  but I inherited hotness.
• 29:58
  - I guess that's true.
• 29:59
  Like if other people think your dad's hot.
• 30:00
  Like I was at this job years ago
• 30:02
  and this girl thought that my dad was the hottest thing
• 30:05
  she'd ever seen.
• 30:06
  And I've never experienced that before.
• 30:08
  I'm not saying my dad's not attractive,
• 30:09
  but he's like in his 70s.
• 30:12
  And she was just like, "Shon is dad."
• 30:14
  I'm like, "Oh, good friend."
• 30:17
  - Okay.
• 30:18
  - Good friend.
• 30:18
  - Okay.
• 30:19
  I've been checked out a pick of Lonnie in a while,
• 30:21
  but I don't know if I got that.
• 30:23
  - I'll send you one.
• 30:24
  I'll send you a pick of my dad.
• 30:26
  (laughing)
• 30:27
  - I want him to get that day.
• 30:28
  - I'll let you know if he's hot.
• 30:30
  But back to the best parents,
• 30:33
  I got to be hot, live in a very rich zip code
• 30:37
  or have magic.
• 30:39
  - Yeah, be magical, be hot, be supportive,
• 30:42
  and maybe a short code.
• 30:43
  - Yeah, and if you think your kids are dead,
• 30:45
  then don't believe them and try to communicate
• 30:48
  with them in the afterlife until you can prove
• 30:50
  that they're alive.
• 30:51
  - Yeah.
• 30:52
  - So with that, we're gonna take a quick break
• 30:53
  and then get to the more fun part,
• 30:54
  which is terrible pop culture parents.
• 30:57
  (dramatic music)
• 31:00
  We are back and we are gonna talk about
• 31:05
  the worst pop culture parents.
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  So I will go first with my three
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  and I think that you're gonna agree
• 31:11
  that they're all terrible Olivia.
• 31:14
  I guess mine were that two controversial of like,
• 31:16
  oh, I don't know, I like them.
• 31:18
  - My first terrible parent is Stannis Barathean
• 31:22
  from Game of Thrones.
• 31:24
  - Yeah, writing your daughter on fire.
• 31:27
  - Yeah, a little bad.
• 31:29
  - You're only some parents' boys.
• 31:30
  - So honestly, like every parent in Game of Thrones.
• 31:34
  - I don't know if there's a single good parent in game.
• 31:36
  - You know what?
• 31:38
  I do think that Ned Stark is a pretty good parent.
• 31:43
  He just like Mufasa dies.
• 31:46
  He didn't even have the audacity to stay alive.
• 31:49
  But I will say that Ned Stark was probably
• 31:51
  the best parent in Game of Thrones.
• 31:52
  And that's, yeah, he only got one season.
• 31:55
  But Stannis Barathean is played by Stephen Delane.
• 31:58
  He appears in Game of Thrones from 2011 to 2019.
• 32:02
  He is initially kind of portrayed as like
• 32:04
  a rigged principled leader.
• 32:05
  We kind of think Stannis is like,
• 32:07
  oh, I can see Stannis on the throne.
• 32:09
  He kind of makes sense.
• 32:10
  He becomes fanatically devoted
• 32:12
  to the Red Priestess, Melisandre.
• 32:14
  And it leads him to burn his daughter, Sherin, alive
• 32:19
  as a sacrifice.
• 32:20
  And that scene is so gut reenriching.
• 32:23
  She's just screaming for her parents.
• 32:26
  Both of them are just turning away.
• 32:28
  The onion knight's there and he's washing.
• 32:30
  And he's just, she taught him how to read
• 32:33
  and he can't do anything.
• 32:34
  Or no, he's not there.
• 32:36
  He just hears about it later.
• 32:38
  - Yes.
• 32:39
  - Oh, that's right.
• 32:39
  Oh, it's just so heartbreaking.
• 32:42
  And spoiler alert, Stannis doesn't get in the throne.
• 32:45
  So that was for nothing.
• 32:48
  He just said, let's do a little fire dance tonight, you know?
• 32:52
  - Let's just do a little child sacrifice.
• 32:54
  We're feeling silly.
• 32:55
  We're feeling a little silly.
• 32:56
  We kind of want to be in charge.
• 32:58
  I'm kind of going to burn my daughter at this take.
• 33:00
  And his daughter is, she has,
• 33:03
  what's it called in Game of Thrones?
• 33:04
  Like the stone skit.
• 33:06
  There you go.
• 33:06
  She's got grayscale.
• 33:08
  So she's already kind of looked down on and shunned
• 33:10
  by most people and.
• 33:12
  - You know who also gave her the toy?
• 33:15
  - That gave her grayscale?
• 33:17
  - Stannis Baratheon.
• 33:19
  - There it is.
• 33:20
  - Technically it was someone who gave it to him,
• 33:22
  who gave it to the girl, but.
• 33:23
  - No, it was his fault.
• 33:24
  - So do you think that he's the worst?
• 33:27
  - Yeah.
• 33:28
  Game of Thrones?
• 33:30
  - Game of Thrones?
• 33:31
  - I think he might be the worst parent in Game of Thrones.
• 33:34
  I mean, Cersei is a terrible person,
• 33:35
  but she does love her kids.
• 33:37
  Not that she's a good mom, but she loves them.
• 33:40
  Jamie is just not allowed to say that there is kids.
• 33:43
  - I mean, I think Tywin.
• 33:45
  - Tywin's a pretty horrible.
• 33:47
  - Oh, Tywin's terrible.
• 33:48
  That's true.
• 33:49
  - Yeah, I feel like I'd have to say Tywin.
• 33:50
  - I'll say Tywin and then Stannis.
• 33:53
  Yeah, Tywin's own son kills him when he's on the shitter.
• 33:56
  So you gotta be pretty bad for that.
• 33:58
  - Yeah, rightfully so.
• 34:00
  - I'd be interested to hear the fans who are listening.
• 34:03
  If you guys wanna hit us out, then let us know.
• 34:05
  - Your order and ranking of good and bad parents
• 34:08
  in the Game of Thrones universe.
• 34:10
  - Yeah, who's the worst?
• 34:11
  Who's the best?
• 34:12
  - Yeah, I feel like if you can't say Ned,
• 34:15
  who's the best?
• 34:16
  - Yeah, if you can't say Ned.
• 34:17
  - Because it's probably Ned.
• 34:18
  Otherwise, it's like Rob Stark never got to be a dad,
• 34:22
  but he probably would have been pretty good.
• 34:24
  He probably would have said a good job.
• 34:28
  (laughs)
• 34:30
  Okay, okay, okay.
• 34:31
  My next terrible parents are the Worm Woods from Matilda.
• 34:36
  - Okay.
• 34:37
  - So in the 1996 film Matilda and in the book,
• 34:40
  Danny DeVito plays Harry and Rhea Pearlman plays Zinnia Wormwood.
• 34:45
  They're both terrible parents.
• 34:47
  They are selfish, neglectful, cruel.
• 34:51
  They seem regretful that they have Matilda as a daughter
• 34:57
  because she wants to read God forbid.
• 35:00
  All they wanna do is sit in front of the television,
• 35:03
  watch TV, and Harry Wormwood is more concerned
• 35:07
  with shady business dealings than their brilliant daughter,
• 35:11
  who's obviously in front of them in like genius as hell.
• 35:16
  Their lack of care highlights Matilda's resilience
• 35:19
  and really kind of is what bolsters her powers
• 35:22
  because they're just screaming at her,
• 35:23
  neglecting her, ignoring her.
• 35:26
  Thankfully, I almost included this pairing on the best list.
• 35:30
  She gets adopted by Ms. Honey in the end
• 35:33
  who is probably one of the examples
• 35:35
  of the best pop culture parents that you can have.
• 35:39
  So. - Yeah.
• 35:40
  I almost put her to, but I was like,
• 35:42
  she's telling me who I'm not a parent.
• 35:44
  She's a doctor. - She's a doctor.
• 35:45
  - Yeah, you know, we don't count that in this house.
• 35:48
  (laughs)
• 35:50
  Yes.
• 35:51
  - We believe in adoption.
• 35:53
  - Sure.
• 35:54
  - We love adoption if you guys are good at it.
• 35:55
  - Yeah.
• 35:56
  - Yeah.
• 35:57
  In real life, Danny DeVito really cared for Mara Wilson
• 36:01
  while her mom was ill.
• 36:02
  So Danny DeVito behind the scenes was a wonderful guy.
• 36:06
  And you know, Mara Wilson is a great little actress
• 36:09
  in those movies.
• 36:10
  - Yeah, she was a great child actress.
• 36:12
  - Yeah, in any movie she was in, she was wonderful.
• 36:15
  - Yeah, she was amazing.
• 36:17
  I do love that movie so much.
• 36:18
  It's so good.
• 36:19
  - Obviously. - I'll be two to really can't.
• 36:20
  You really can't beat it.
• 36:22
  - No, it was one of my favorite movies growing up
• 36:24
  and all my teachers would tell me at school
• 36:25
  that I looked like I'm a soldier
• 36:26
  'cause I had the little brown hair in the bags.
• 36:29
  My final example of terrible parents are the birds
• 36:34
  from Ozark.
• 36:35
  Did you watch Ozark Olivia?
• 36:37
  - Oh yeah.
• 36:38
  - I thought so. - That's great.
• 36:39
  - I thought you did.
• 36:41
  So Jason Bateman and Laura Linney
• 36:43
  star as Marty and Wendy Bird in Ozark.
• 36:47
  So they are supposed to kind of appear
• 36:49
  as your normal suburban parents,
• 36:52
  but they obviously have some shady dealings
• 36:54
  even from the beginning.
• 36:55
  And they slowly descend into money laundering
• 36:59
  for a Mexican drug cartel and pull their parents deeper
• 37:03
  and I'm sorry, pull their children deeper into crime
• 37:07
  and danger.
• 37:09
  They have really skewed up moral compasses.
• 37:13
  I feel like they're never making good decisions.
• 37:16
  They are not happy in their marriage
• 37:18
  and their lies and in their relationship.
• 37:20
  - They're making it all of their children's problems.
• 37:22
  - Yeah, they make it all of their kids' problems.
• 37:25
  And then even like not that Marty was like
• 37:27
  a parrot figure to Ruth in the show,
• 37:30
  but it kind of seems that way
• 37:32
  that it could be at least for a little bit in my opinion.
• 37:35
  They do kind of have like this father, daughter kind of
• 37:38
  rapport back and forth with each other.
• 37:40
  They start out really like with a lot of animosity
• 37:43
  and then she kind of comes on to his drug scheming.
• 37:46
  - Father and daughter and crime.
• 37:48
  - Yeah, but that doesn't last very long.
• 37:51
  And so by the end of it, Ruth wants them dead
• 37:54
  and spoiler in three, two--
• 37:58
  - Do you need to respawn on the whole show?
• 38:00
  - I can just talk about that as parents.
• 38:03
  - It does end well for Ruth in the end,
• 38:05
  I guess, is an uptrial.
• 38:06
  - Okay, there you go.
• 38:07
  There you go.
• 38:09
  Like we don't need to spoil the show.
• 38:11
  - I'm gonna go by season by season
• 38:13
  and let you know everything that happens
• 38:14
  in Ozark, here we go.
• 38:16
  - They are terrible to everybody.
• 38:19
  So those are my worst, what are your worst
• 38:22
  pop culture parents, Olivia?
• 38:24
  - Okay, so I have a few, some are when I say them,
• 38:29
  you will be like, absolutely.
• 38:32
  I have one that maybe some people don't necessarily think
• 38:37
  about when they think of bad parents.
• 38:39
  The absolute worst pop culture parent I think of all time
• 38:43
  is Frank Gallagher, who is in shameless,
• 38:48
  like South Side of Chicago, drug addict, alcoholic,
• 38:53
  really makes Fiona Gallagher a parentified child
• 38:58
  who takes care of his many children.
• 39:01
  So he has five children, Fiona, Lipp, Debbie, Carl, and Liam.
• 39:05
  And honestly, this man is just a menace.
• 39:08
  And I think he exists in our universe.
• 39:13
  Like if we look at like Stanisper Athian,
• 39:15
  it's like, well, maybe different times, certain circumstances,
• 39:19
  like, no, this man is absolutely like
• 39:21
  selling his child for drugs, like actually handing him off.
• 39:25
  So crazy and, you know, does some terrible things.
• 39:29
  I mean, William H. Basie does an amazing job
• 39:33
  playing Frank Gallagher.
• 39:34
  I mean, have you ever seen Shameless?
• 39:36
  - I've only seen bits and pieces of it.
• 39:38
  I've never actually sat down and watched the whole thing.
• 39:40
  - I know.
• 39:41
  - I know.
• 39:42
  - Oh my.
• 39:43
  - I've heard this is really good.
• 39:45
  - It's one of, oh my God, it's such an amazing show.
• 39:48
  - It's the own, right?
• 39:49
  - Showtime.
• 39:50
  - Oh, showtime.
• 39:51
  - But I think it's on Netflix now.
• 39:52
  But Shameless is so good.
• 39:55
  Emmy Rossum in it, Jeremy L. W.
• 39:58
  - Becomes famous from this.
• 40:00
  I mean, it is so incredibly good.
• 40:03
  It is the most messed up family of all time.
• 40:07
  Really, really crazy situations.
• 40:10
  Like, I think it's season five
• 40:12
  when you get to season five.
• 40:13
  Oh my God, I will never forget it.
• 40:15
  But yeah, amazing.
• 40:17
  I mean, Fiona is a parent of her child,
• 40:20
  but she could also probably get in there on worse parents.
• 40:24
  - Oh, she tried the worst.
• 40:26
  - She's an older sister parent, so we'll allow it.
• 40:30
  But whenever we first started thinking about this,
• 40:32
  I was like, definitely Frank Gallagher
• 40:34
  like doing crack next to his child.
• 40:36
  - Oh, jeez.
• 40:37
  - Absolutely crazy.
• 40:38
  - Don't you crack, that'll make you a good parent.
• 40:40
  Not doing it.
• 40:40
  - Yeah, it's good.
• 40:41
  - I'm not doing crack.
• 40:42
  - Not to do crack, yeah.
• 40:43
  - Right that time, right that time.
• 40:44
  - Right that time.
• 40:45
  - Right that time.
• 40:46
  - Now on the exact opposite part of the economic spectrum,
• 40:51
  my next one is Logan Roy from Succession.
• 40:56
  He is the founder and CEO of Waystar Royco.
• 41:01
  And he's like kind of the patriarch of the family
• 41:04
  is paid by Brian Cox.
• 41:06
  It is based loosely on the Murdoch family.
• 41:10
  And so this show follows him like aging
• 41:15
  about her retire and which of his three children
• 41:19
  are going to take over two boys and,
• 41:23
  well, I guess four children, three boys and one daughter.
• 41:28
  And it is just, you know, imagine the Murdoch family.
• 41:32
  (laughing)
• 41:33
  And it is the richest of rich, you know,
• 41:36
  tycoons of media and just terrible craziness.
• 41:40
  Terrible people.
• 41:42
  He's such a complex person too, like going into it.
• 41:47
  Like you see that he is this very successful man
• 41:52
  who should be respected, but also is, has a terrible
• 41:56
  like inward life.
• 41:57
  It really great outward success.
• 41:59
  And what does that do within a family?
• 42:01
  So two sides of the spectrum right there.
• 42:03
  (laughing)
• 42:04
  Of incredibly poor and impacts incredibly rich
• 42:07
  and powerful and powerful.
• 42:08
  So your third parent needs to be right in the middle,
• 42:10
  just very middle class parent.
• 42:12
  Yes, yes.
• 42:13
  And my third parent's, it's the parent trap parents
• 42:17
  because what the hell was that?
• 42:19
  This is kinda stressful.
• 42:21
  I totally agree with you.
• 42:22
  You're gonna split your twins up
• 42:25
  because you got a divorce.
• 42:26
  No, that's not parenting.
• 42:29
  That is the worst way they could have handled this situation.
• 42:32
  Like you're telling me that they're gonna go,
• 42:34
  they just planned on going their entire lives
• 42:36
  without ever seeing their other child.
• 42:39
  Yeah, and you guys couldn't even like claim a side
• 42:43
  of the country for camps.
• 42:45
  You had to go to the same camp.
• 42:47
  Like we, you're gonna ruin this twin telepathy connection
• 42:52
  and you're not even gonna make a plan to be like a kid.
• 42:55
  And they lied.
• 42:56
  They lied to every but they lied to both of the girls
• 42:58
  and made them think that they did enough sisters.
• 43:00
  And then they convinced the like nanny and their butler
• 43:03
  to just like pretend there's not another daughter.
• 43:05
  Pretend there's only one of them, right?
• 43:08
  That's crazy.
• 43:09
  You're never gonna easy.
• 43:10
  It's so cruel.
• 43:11
  I'm sorry.
• 43:12
  If another thing that makes good parents is that
• 43:15
  if you get a divorce, you split up.
• 43:17
  You at least, I'm not gonna say say together for the kids
• 43:20
  'cause I think that's messed up.
• 43:22
  But at least have a good parent.
• 43:24
  Cold parent.
• 43:25
  Love of God.
• 43:26
  Yeah, no, crazy.
• 43:28
  Honestly, like so wild.
• 43:31
  Like you know what?
• 43:33
  Also the bomb.
• 43:34
  Okay, the dad were used to been being bad parents.
• 43:38
  So but the mom is just like, yeah,
• 43:40
  I could live without one of these.
• 43:41
  Like that's crazy.
• 43:43
  How did they choose?
• 43:44
  Did they just like, I'll take that one.
• 43:46
  You take that one.
• 43:47
  No, what is it?
• 43:48
  Like a flip of a coin?
• 43:49
  Like this one's heads.
• 43:50
  This one's tails.
• 43:51
  I know what you think the mom is like,
• 43:52
  yeah, shit, I liked that one more.
• 43:54
  And whatever.
• 43:55
  Yeah, that is so crazy.
• 43:57
  What age are they when they split?
• 44:01
  No, but they split the babies up.
• 44:03
  Oh, when they split the babies up,
• 44:05
  that's a great question.
• 44:06
  Oh, it's separated at birth.
• 44:08
  That's crazy.
• 44:09
  So like in, I haven't seen this movie in so long.
• 44:13
  (laughing)
• 44:14
  You know, Nancy Myers, I have questions.
• 44:16
  So did they break up whenever she was prego?
• 44:20
  And then like it was kind of like a hand of the baby off
• 44:23
  to the husband like fresh out of the womb?
• 44:26
  That is a great question.
• 44:27
  Yeah, was there a lawyer involved in this?
• 44:29
  They write up the paperwork and was the lawyer just like,
• 44:31
  you guys, this is kind of messed up.
• 44:34
  Or did they just kind of like do this in the hospital?
• 44:35
  She's like, I want you out.
• 44:37
  Take one.
• 44:38
  Take one.
• 44:39
  Take that one and leave.
• 44:40
  What judge in family court was like approved?
• 44:43
  Yeah, yeah.
• 44:44
  You guys, so you never want to see the other daughter,
• 44:46
  you never want to see Haley again.
• 44:48
  You never want to see.
• 44:48
  So the custody agreement is 100% for this one
• 44:51
  and 100% for that one.
• 44:53
  And then when they finally meet the other daughter
• 44:56
  that they like never have met before,
• 44:59
  everyone's very understanding like,
• 45:00
  I have a mom now, I have a dad now.
• 45:02
  I would have been like, what the fuck dad?
• 45:04
  Like, the twins in me, you never want to meet me?
• 45:09
  Twins with a deep sense of abandonment.
• 45:11
  Yeah.
• 45:12
  Yeah, what is going on?
• 45:15
  I love that out of all of these parents
• 45:17
  like burning their kids at the stake
• 45:19
  and smoking crack in front of them.
• 45:21
  This is the one that we're like, what on earth?
• 45:23
  No, no, no, but it is so messed up.
• 45:27
  It's so messed up.
• 45:28
  And we're supposed to think it's all cute and fine.
• 45:30
  Yeah, Nancy Myers is a propaganda machine.
• 45:34
  What do you mean?
• 45:36
  No, this is not normal.
• 45:38
  This is inhumane.
• 45:39
  And listeners, if you are separated from your twin
• 45:43
  in a bad divorce situation, we want to know
• 45:45
  and we want to have you on the podcast.
• 45:48
  I bet you they're out there, honestly.
• 45:49
  I do bet you they're out there.
• 45:51
  But like, yeah, I just need to know,
• 45:53
  like was it a kind of like under the radar custody thing?
• 45:56
  And we just went like, okay, we don't have to go to court
• 46:00
  and do child support because like truly same.
• 46:03
  Yeah, he's not out of the hospital with like a coat on,
• 46:07
  and he just had one of the babies hiding under the coat
• 46:10
  and just left and she's like, perfect.
• 46:12
  And yes, we are talking about both iterations
• 46:15
  of the parent trap, although I've never seen
• 46:17
  the 1961 version of it.
• 46:19
  I've only seen the Lindsay Lohan version
• 46:21
  that came out in the movies.
• 46:22
  So we'll have to see if the 1961 version is the same
• 46:27
  ridiculous situation.
• 46:29
  Dennis Quaid and Natasha Richardson are hot.
• 46:32
  Oh, they're wonderful.
• 46:33
  So like our hot, so we forgive them.
• 46:36
  Also why we need a hot president.
• 46:39
  Media hot president so we can forgive you more easily.
• 46:42
  Like splitting up children at birth.
• 46:46
  Yeah, we're like, actually, if you consider
• 46:48
  that it's Dennis Quaid, or.
• 46:50
  Yeah.
• 46:52
  I think that that about wraps up this
• 46:57
  initially family oriented Pop Culture Junkie podcast.
• 47:01
  Yeah, just for Haley.
• 47:02
  Just for Haley.
• 47:03
  Just for Haley.
• 47:05
  Just wonderful.
• 47:06
  And what about the other one?
• 47:09
  I don't remember the other one's name.
• 47:10
  Haley and Annie.
• 47:12
  Annie, yeah, just for Haley and Annie Parker.
• 47:14
  (laughs)
• 47:15
  Message us and let us know about your favorite moms
• 47:18
  and dads and TV and in the movies.
• 47:22
  Olivia, where can the listeners find your parents online?
• 47:26
  I'm sorry, where can they find you?
• 47:29
  So my parents are incredibly pure in wholesome.
• 47:33
  They do not have social media and they never had.
• 47:35
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• 47:41
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• 47:45
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• 47:50
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