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- 0:03Speaker 1: All right, friends, good morning, ruminators, ladies and gentlemen, boys
- 0:08Speaker 1: and girls, males and females only. It is the third
- 0:12Speaker 1: hour of the Morning Show with Preston Scott. I am Preston.
- 0:15Speaker 1: He is Jose at Is Show five thousand, four hundred
- 0:19Speaker 1: and sixty nine. But who's counting? Please da with us
- 0:23Speaker 1: for the first time, the new Commissioner of Education for
- 0:26Speaker 1: the Sunshine State, Anastasio kamutsas Commissioner.
- 0:30Speaker 2: How are you. Good morning, Preston. Thank you so much
- 0:33Speaker 2: for having me on your show this morning.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Hey, my pleasure give everybody just a quick little biographical sketch.
- 0:39Speaker 1: How did you get to the Commissioner of Education?
- 0:42Speaker 2: Desk Ah Well, first and foremost by God's grace. It's
- 0:46Speaker 2: been amazing the doors that have been opened up for
- 0:49Speaker 2: me throughout my career. Went to Regent University, School of Wall,
- 0:53Speaker 2: Conservative Christian law school. From there I went down to
- 0:56Speaker 2: Miami to be a prosecutor my hometown. Did that for
- 0:59Speaker 2: a couple of years, represented police officers a couple of
- 1:02Speaker 2: years after that, and then Richard Corkoran brought me up
- 1:04Speaker 2: here to the Department of Education, where I served in
- 1:07Speaker 2: the General Council's Office. I eventually ascended to General Council,
- 1:11Speaker 2: became the Chief of Staff, went over to the Governor's Office.
- 1:14Speaker 2: That was Deputy chief of Staff to the Governor over education,
- 1:17Speaker 2: amongst many other agencies in my portfolio for a couple
- 1:21Speaker 2: of years. And then when Manny Diaz was selected to
- 1:24Speaker 2: be the president at the University of West Florida, I
- 1:27Speaker 2: was recommended by the Governor and unanimously selected by the
- 1:29Speaker 2: State Board of Education to be the Commissioner of Education.
- 1:32Speaker 1: That is no small honor when you were chosen. What
- 1:38Speaker 1: was your first reaction?
- 1:41Speaker 2: Incredibly humbled. It was really awesome to see at the
- 1:46Speaker 2: State Board of Education meeting folks who spoke on my
- 1:49Speaker 2: behalf and not just for my career here in Tallahassee,
- 1:53Speaker 2: but I had my pastor's wife who knew me as
- 1:55Speaker 2: a twelve year old kid, that talked about how I
- 1:59Speaker 2: got to this point in life, and so it was
- 2:01Speaker 2: really remarkable. And she was a thirty year plus public
- 2:04Speaker 2: school teacher in Miami, so it was a great perspective
- 2:08Speaker 2: to share as both someone that had tremendous influence over
- 2:11Speaker 2: my life but also who had intimate familiarity with our
- 2:15Speaker 2: education system.
- 2:16Speaker 1: I'm curious you know, unless you're the very first commissioner
- 2:19Speaker 1: of education for a state, you're always picking up where
- 2:24Speaker 1: somebody else left off. So when you walk into that office,
- 2:28Speaker 1: are there sticky notes? Is there a whiteboard? I mean,
- 2:31Speaker 1: where do you begin to kind of assess priorities?
- 2:35Speaker 2: Sure, I'd say, Look, I don't think I ever really
- 2:39Speaker 2: left the Department of Education, even though I was at
- 2:41Speaker 2: the Governor's office and I was balancing quite a few agencies.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Education has always been my passion. I've always remained intimately
- 2:48Speaker 2: familiar with the issues that have been taking place here
- 2:51Speaker 2: at the department. I know the staff by name at
- 2:54Speaker 2: a building that has, you know, hundreds of employees, because
- 2:58Speaker 2: I know the folks and the great work that they're
- 3:00Speaker 2: doing here and the impact that they're having across the state.
- 3:03Speaker 2: And so I was always very close with Commissioner man
- 3:07Speaker 2: ideas I was as chief of staff and maintained that
- 3:10Speaker 2: close relationship over in the Governor's office, and so I
- 3:13Speaker 2: was pretty apprised of all the issues. It was. It
- 3:15Speaker 2: was an easy thing to come in and pick up
- 3:17Speaker 2: the reins and keep it moving.
- 3:19Speaker 1: One of the first things that you've kind of pushed
- 3:21Speaker 1: out of your office is something that you know, people
- 3:23Speaker 1: might see the initials FCDI not know what Florida Civics
- 3:28Speaker 1: and Debate Initiative is all about. So break it down
- 3:31Speaker 1: for us.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Yeah, no, the Florida Civics and Debate Initiative was, you know,
- 3:37Speaker 2: is an amazing program champion by Governor DeSantis where all
- 3:41Speaker 2: sixty seven of our school districts are participating in civic
- 3:45Speaker 2: dialogue and it really is an amazing opportunity for students
- 3:51Speaker 2: to not just argue one side, but to argue both
- 3:53Speaker 2: sides of an issue. And the Governor talks about this
- 3:56Speaker 2: frequently of how important it is that students understand that
- 4:00Speaker 2: there are always two perspectives of an issue, and we
- 4:02Speaker 2: have to respectfully approach debate and civic discourse with individuals
- 4:09Speaker 2: in a respectful manner so that you are appreciating different perspectives.
- 4:13Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily mean you have to adopt those opinions,
- 4:16Speaker 2: but but you do want to encourage in our students
- 4:19Speaker 2: and appreciation from multiple perspectives.
- 4:24Speaker 1: And this is going to be a competition that statewide
- 4:27Speaker 1: and it culminates with an awarding of a trophy. And
- 4:30Speaker 1: tell us about the naming of the trophy.
- 4:33Speaker 2: Yeah, So We're naming the Civics and Debate Championship Trophy
- 4:36Speaker 2: after Charlie Kirk to honor his legacy of courage and
- 4:40Speaker 2: conviction in the public square. I think this shows students
- 4:44Speaker 2: that true leadership is about standing boldly for your ideas
- 4:47Speaker 2: even in the face of opposition, not tearing others down
- 4:51Speaker 2: with cruelty or reckless words. And so by attaching Charlie
- 4:55Speaker 2: Kirk's name to this award, I think we remind every
- 4:59Speaker 2: competitor that is about strength of character, respect for others,
- 5:03Speaker 2: and the responsibility we all share to preserve our republic.
- 5:07Speaker 2: His legacy will inspire Florida students to lead with passion, principle,
- 5:11Speaker 2: and respect, which I believe are qualities that our death,
- 5:15Speaker 2: our nation desperately needs right now.
- 5:17Speaker 3: Wherever you may be, from Florida Sunshine State to California,
- 5:21Speaker 3: I scratch that California is hopeless for the rest. We're
- 5:27Speaker 3: your Morning show, The Morning Show with Preston Scott.
- 5:33Speaker 1: He is Florida's Commissioner of Education. In Astasio Kamusis. I
- 5:39Speaker 1: want to follow up on that Charlie Kirk reference, and
- 5:42Speaker 1: I think the appropriate naming of the trophy dealing with
- 5:45Speaker 1: civics and dialogue. A local school board member here Stassy
- 5:50Speaker 1: Daryl Jones with the Leon County School Board, posted this
- 5:54Speaker 1: on his social media before deleting it, and it was
- 5:57Speaker 1: the problem is that the Commissioner of Edge, from his
- 6:00Speaker 1: lofty position, found it necessary to inform an entire profession
- 6:05Speaker 1: that it should not comment on the murder of a racist, misogynist,
- 6:09Speaker 1: homophobic clansmen in negative terms. Now, I'm going to just
- 6:13Speaker 1: set aside the foolishness of the comment itself because it's uneducated,
- 6:19Speaker 1: but the fact that he has not apologized or been
- 6:22Speaker 1: called to account for that as it references teachers being
- 6:26Speaker 1: held accountable for the posts that they make relative to
- 6:29Speaker 1: the murder and assassination of Charlie Kirk. Your thoughts on
- 6:32Speaker 1: this and this guy remaining on the school board without
- 6:35Speaker 1: an apology.
- 6:38Speaker 2: Well, thank you for the question. Unfortunately, we have repeatedly
- 6:43Speaker 2: had to call out school board officials across Florida for
- 6:47Speaker 2: posting reckless comments about public figures, including our President, Charlie Kirk,
- 6:52Speaker 2: and even our own governor. These are not slip ups,
- 6:55Speaker 2: These are not casual remarks. They are toxic, irresponsible, and
- 7:00Speaker 2: corrosive to the public. Trusts. School board members are elected
- 7:03Speaker 2: to protect children and serve families. When they indulge in
- 7:07Speaker 2: this kind of behavior, they betray that trust, They create division,
- 7:11Speaker 2: and they make students feel unsafe. I was just at
- 7:14Speaker 2: a Lachua County school board meeting where another school board
- 7:17Speaker 2: member made a similar reckless remark that had to reference
- 7:23Speaker 2: the sparaging comments of Charlie Kirk and his funeral service,
- 7:26Speaker 2: but referenced him as an uneducated white boy. And it
- 7:31Speaker 2: just has no place in our school system. It is
- 7:34Speaker 2: divisive language that now may alienates an entire population of students,
- 7:40Speaker 2: of parents, of quite frankly employees of the school district.
- 7:44Speaker 2: And so you know, it's been problematic, and we've seen
- 7:47Speaker 2: it not just in school board members, but we've seen
- 7:50Speaker 2: it in teachers. In Clay County, there was a teacher
- 7:53Speaker 2: who openly celebrated Charlie Kirk's death on social social media.
- 7:58Speaker 2: We investigated that case, wend I found probable cause. But
- 8:01Speaker 2: that kind of conduct shows gross and morality and reduced effectiveness.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Her statement was that it wasn't the obituary she was
- 8:08Speaker 2: hoping for, but it was a close second for her,
- 8:11Speaker 2: and it was attached to an article that said Charlie
- 8:14Speaker 2: Kirk had been assassinated on a school campus. And so
- 8:17Speaker 2: when teachers or school board members cross that line, you know,
- 8:21Speaker 2: to the extent we can hold them accountable, we will.
- 8:24Speaker 2: Teachers who are celebrating these tragedies are dangerous to children,
- 8:28Speaker 2: quite frankly, as you're supposed to be. These are supposed
- 8:31Speaker 2: to be the role models in the classrooms. Young impressionable
- 8:34Speaker 2: minds are seeing educators that they look up to post
- 8:37Speaker 2: these statements because these posts are going viral, unfortunately, and
- 8:41Speaker 2: it's just not the kind of message that we want
- 8:44Speaker 2: to send to our students. There should never be the
- 8:47Speaker 2: glorification of a school shooter or a school shooting, and
- 8:51Speaker 2: so on our watch, we're going to make sure that
- 8:52Speaker 2: there are consequences to pay as a result of those statements.
- 8:55Speaker 1: What if anything should happen to a school board member,
- 8:59Speaker 1: whether they you know, leave it posted or not, they
- 9:02Speaker 1: don't issue a retraction or a public apology. So is
- 9:06Speaker 1: what does accountability mean there?
- 9:09Speaker 2: I think the greatest accountability is going to be on
- 9:11Speaker 2: the voters. I think they need to understand that this
- 9:13Speaker 2: individual does not have the best interests of our students
- 9:16Speaker 2: or our teachers. When they're making their public service about themselves.
- 9:21Speaker 2: This is a selfish act that's intended to draw attention
- 9:24Speaker 2: to themselves. Where our school board member Daniel Folk are excusing,
- 9:28Speaker 2: our State Board of Education member Daniel fog and Holy
- 9:31Speaker 2: said it best that these are individuals who are seeking
- 9:34Speaker 2: attention by making these social media posts and not retracting
- 9:38Speaker 2: their apologies because they're gaining media coverage and in their minds,
- 9:42Speaker 2: I think they think it's an opportunity for them to
- 9:44Speaker 2: chase the next political career opportunity for themselves. It's not
- 9:49Speaker 2: student focused, it's not parent focused or teacher focused, and
- 9:53Speaker 2: as a result, districts are suffering negative consequences and negative
- 9:57Speaker 2: media coverage because one individual making this issue about themselves
- 10:02Speaker 2: as opposed to unifying the students and trying to direct
- 10:06Speaker 2: them towards some positivity that can result from such a
- 10:09Speaker 2: horrific tragedy. And that's what we tried to do with
- 10:12Speaker 2: the Florida Civics and Debate initiative by naming the trophy
- 10:16Speaker 2: after Charlie Kirk because he was a champion for civic
- 10:20Speaker 2: discourse and open dialogue, a champion for the First Amendment
- 10:24Speaker 2: and the importance of respecting other ideas, not taking it
- 10:28Speaker 2: upon ourselves to engage in violent acts with those we
- 10:32Speaker 2: disagree with.
- 10:33Speaker 1: I know you got a role, but just to follow
- 10:35Speaker 1: up and put a bow on this particular topic, Commissioner,
- 10:38Speaker 1: but what if the board member is not just a
- 10:41Speaker 1: school board member elected, but is in fact an employee
- 10:44Speaker 1: of one of the municipalities.
- 10:46Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean I don't know from our standpoint
- 10:50Speaker 2: that that would make a difference. I mean, I have
- 10:52Speaker 2: regulatory authority with a tea for a teaching certificate. So
- 10:55Speaker 2: if it's a school board member that has a teaching
- 10:57Speaker 2: certificate and there's a behavior that they engage in that,
- 11:00Speaker 2: thank you, then I would be able to, you know,
- 11:02Speaker 2: investigate and take action on that. But you know, as
- 11:05Speaker 2: far as a municipal employee, look, I mean obviously I
- 11:10Speaker 2: work in the world of administrative law, but labor and
- 11:12Speaker 2: employment law has different standards, and sure, you know, ultimately,
- 11:16Speaker 2: if you're a poor representative of your employer, then employers
- 11:19Speaker 2: should and you know, are encouraged to take action because
- 11:22Speaker 2: it's a reflection on the work that they provide.
- 11:25Speaker 1: Fair Enough, Commissioner, look forward to having your back on
- 11:27Speaker 1: the program whenever you like. Thanks for the time to day.
- 11:30Speaker 2: Thank you, Preston, have a great one job.
- 11:31Speaker 1: Blessed Nostasios Kamutsis. He is the Commissioner of Education for Florida.
- 11:38Speaker 1: I don't know if Vince Long, the county administrator for
- 11:40Speaker 1: Leon County, caught that, but it's on you now. I
- 11:44Speaker 1: don't necessarily think he needs to lose his job. I
- 11:47Speaker 1: do think he needs to be told to apologize, retract
- 11:49Speaker 1: the statement publicly, or lose your job. But he's paid for.
- 11:53Speaker 1: He's an employee of taxpayers, not just as an elected
- 11:57Speaker 1: official as a school board member, but for the county.