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Mac & Bone Hour 4: Jones Angell & Ryan Wood · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: All right, y'all, it is time, baby. It is time
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  Speaker 2: for a little Jones Angel conversation. Man, what a night
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  Speaker 2: coming up on Saturday night. Tar Heels hosting the number
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  Speaker 2: one team in the country in the Miami Hurricanes. We
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  Speaker 2: got to preview that game. We also got to talk
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  Speaker 2: about that day. I still have not seen proof that
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  Speaker 2: makes me believe that that Syracuse receiver was in the
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  Speaker 2: end zone scoring in order to beat the Tar Heels.
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  Speaker 2: But we digress. Let's talk about it all with Jones Angel,
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  Speaker 2: voice of the Heels. He'll be calling the game 730
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  Speaker 2: against Miami on Saturday. Radio pregame at 630 on the network,
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  Speaker 2: which includes our sister station, WBT. So, Jones, what's up, man?
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  Speaker 2: Good to have you back. How you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, great to be with you guys, Mac. Great to
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  Speaker 3: be talking Tar Heels in a busy weekend upcoming. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: frustrating one last week for sure. I think that that's
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  Speaker 3: another example of the fact that this Tar Heel team
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  Speaker 3: just isn't quite a finished product, not anywhere close to
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  Speaker 3: a finished product, but that it still has some growth
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  Speaker 3: to do. It's the third time this year that the
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  Speaker 3: Heels have had a double-digit lead in that they've let
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  Speaker 3: slip away and let the other team take the lead
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the game and lost the Clemson game.
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  Speaker 3: They were able to come back and still win that
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  Speaker 3: Duke game and then give this one up right at
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  Speaker 3: the end. And so they've got to figure out a
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  Speaker 3: way that when you're up 17 to three, like you
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  Speaker 3: were against Clemson or 17, nothing against Duke or, 20-10
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  Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter like you were against Syracuse, that
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  Speaker 3: you don't let it come down to a controversial two-point play.
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  Speaker 3: And you don't let it come down to the referee's
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  Speaker 3: decision in that moment. And so it's another step in
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  Speaker 3: the process and certainly a frustrating one for Carolina to
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  Speaker 3: have to learn in real time, but one that they're
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  Speaker 3: going to have to figure out.
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  Speaker 4: Jones, your view and observation on the Syracuse two-point conversion
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  Speaker 4: play and really the lack of cameras and how all.
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  Speaker 2: That went down.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it comes down to an opportunity, I think,
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  Speaker 3: for the ACC to get better, right? There was no
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  Speaker 3: way that call could get overturned. And I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if he was in or not in. It was so close.
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  Speaker 3: But that's where you need the technology that we do
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  Speaker 3: have available here in the year 2026. Um, you, you
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  Speaker 3: need to have that camera on the goal line. You
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  Speaker 3: need one on the end line. You need one on
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  Speaker 3: the sideline. It should just be a, it should be
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  Speaker 3: a requirement in my opinion. And, you know, Bill Belichick,
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  Speaker 3: I thought handled it in a pretty professional way on
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  Speaker 3: Monday at his press conference where he didn't complain about
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  Speaker 3: the call. He didn't say, Oh, he wasn't in, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he just said, this is something that should happen and
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  Speaker 3: that it would make the game better. It would make
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  Speaker 3: the official job a little bit easier because look, there,
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  Speaker 3: there was no definitive look on that play that said
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  Speaker 3: he was in or wasn't in. And so we shouldn't
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  Speaker 3: be to the point where there are fan videos from
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  Speaker 3: their cell phones that give us a cleaner look than
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  Speaker 3: what the actual officials in the game were working with
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  Speaker 3: to try to decide the, the outcome of that play
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  Speaker 3: and ultimately the outcome of the game. And so we,
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  Speaker 3: um it's unfortunate that it came to that point but
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  Speaker 3: you hope that it's an opportunity that uh moving forward
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  Speaker 3: that the league and and that the sport can take
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  Speaker 3: as a positive to make it better as we get
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  Speaker 3: into the future.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah as much as that annoyed me jones like come
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  Speaker 2: on we you know you how do you not it's
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  Speaker 2: 2026 you can't get cameras there on the on the
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  Speaker 2: goal line like that annoyed me but and you kind
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  Speaker 2: of alluded to this the heels had had a double
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  Speaker 2: digit lead yet again And it does need to be said,
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  Speaker 2: there's things that were frustrating that the Tar Heels did
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  Speaker 2: themselves too. It's not all about officials or cameras, like
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  Speaker 2: the run pass differential. I know Billy Edwards was pretty solid, right?
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  Speaker 2: And ship had a hundred yards game, but like to
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  Speaker 2: pass it 44 times to only run at 25. When
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  Speaker 2: I thought McGill and June were churning and then the defense,
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  Speaker 2: we can go to the run defense and the past
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  Speaker 2: defense and gripe about it. So like there were things
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  Speaker 2: with the heels too, that I didn't like as well.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no. This is a game Carolina should have won
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  Speaker 3: in regulation. This should have never gotten to a point
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  Speaker 3: where you're concerned about the cameras on the goal line.
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  Speaker 3: Carolina had a 10-point lead in the fourth quarter. You're
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  Speaker 3: at home. You've got to win that game. For the
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  Speaker 3: Tar Heels, a couple different things. Carolina defensively right now
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  Speaker 3: is trying to keep everything in front of it, right?
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  Speaker 3: Like it's been, and for the most part, I think
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  Speaker 3: the Tar Heels have done a really good job with that.
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  Speaker 3: Syracuse hit the one big play this past week, which
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  Speaker 3: was an enormous play. I'm not minimizing that. But I
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  Speaker 3: think for the most part, Carolina this season has done
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  Speaker 3: a really good job at not allowing those big explosive plays.
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  Speaker 3: But right now, when you are focusing on keeping everything
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  Speaker 3: in front of you and not over your head, that
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  Speaker 3: does allow for those four-yard, five-yard, six-yard type of runs
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  Speaker 3: that I think Syracuse really lived off of in this game.
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  Speaker 3: And you started to see that blueprint some for the
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  Speaker 3: opposition with Notre Dame a few weeks ago, where it
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  Speaker 3: was never this high-flying, all-over-the-place offense that was just raining
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  Speaker 3: down points. But it was this consistent move forward with
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  Speaker 3: the offense. And Carolina just struggled to get off the field.
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  Speaker 3: And the Heels did a much better job on third
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  Speaker 3: down in this game against Syracuse. But the Orange ended
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  Speaker 3: up going for it seven times on fourth down. I
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  Speaker 3: think they got four of them, if I remember correctly.
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  Speaker 3: And even the third down number was really good at
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  Speaker 3: one point. I think it was two of 11 at
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  Speaker 3: one point for Carolina's defense. But then Syracuse converted six
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  Speaker 3: of its last eight as the game got later and
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  Speaker 3: the Tar Heels wore down a little bit. So if
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  Speaker 3: they are going to play that style of defense, which
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  Speaker 3: is clear, that's what Bill Belichick at this moment feels
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  Speaker 3: like gives them the best chance to win. You have
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  Speaker 3: to take advantage of the, hey, it's third and 21 now.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to get off the field. Not let Syracuse
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  Speaker 3: gain 20 yards on third down and then go for
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  Speaker 3: it on fourth and short and keep a drive going.
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  Speaker 3: You have to be able to pick those moments where
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  Speaker 3: you definitively make the stop from your defensive side. And
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  Speaker 3: so I think that's an area Carolina has to get
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  Speaker 3: better quickly as far as the run pass. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 3: was a strange thought. That's one of those where I
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  Speaker 3: think a lot of the pre snap looks and all
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  Speaker 3: those things. that you get a little deeper dictates a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of what you do. But that's telling you
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  Speaker 3: that the opposition says, hey, we want Billy Edwards to
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  Speaker 3: go beat us instead of your run game. And so
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  Speaker 3: you've got to figure out a way to be able
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  Speaker 3: to run the ball, even if the look that you
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  Speaker 3: have isn't exactly what you want.
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  Speaker 4: Jones Angel with us, as he is every Thursday, Tar
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  Speaker 4: Heel Radio Network. Jones, number one Miami comes in on Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: Heels have had great success against Miami in the last decade,
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  Speaker 4: although a different Miami team now. If the Heels can
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  Speaker 4: hang in this game, what's the formula for them to do.
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  Speaker 2: That on Saturday?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a tough one. Miami is really, really good.
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  Speaker 3: And this is an odd series. And Carolina has a
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  Speaker 3: pretty sizable lead in the all-time series. They've won five
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  Speaker 3: in a row in this series against some good teams,
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  Speaker 3: but not a team like this. Miami is, I think,
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  Speaker 3: pretty clearly to this point. had the best season of
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  Speaker 3: anybody in the country. Now, there's a long way to go,
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  Speaker 3: but you look at some of their numbers, guys. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: number one rush defense in the nation, number one scoring
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  Speaker 3: offense in the nation, number two total offense in the nation.
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  Speaker 3: They lead the country in red zone defense. They lead
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  Speaker 3: the nation in time of possession. Darian Mensah, 22 touchdowns,
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  Speaker 3: one interception, and 81% completion percent. I mean, that's insane.
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  Speaker 2: That's video games, man.
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  Speaker 3: Malachi Toney is an All-America at the wide receiver spot.
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  Speaker 3: It's just an excellent team. And so for Carolina, you, A,
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  Speaker 3: have to play a really clean game. You can't hurt
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  Speaker 3: yourself in any way. You have to be able to
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  Speaker 3: get a couple of turnovers, which Miami's only turned it
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  Speaker 3: over three times all season. But you have to get
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  Speaker 3: one of those, even if it's not a technical turnover,
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  Speaker 3: a punt block. You've got to get something like that,
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  Speaker 3: I think, that gives you kind of a free possession
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  Speaker 3: or a shot of momentum. And if you're the Tar Heels,
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  Speaker 3: you just have to, in my opinion, can you limit
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  Speaker 3: the possessions that Miami's terrific offense has? But to do that,
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  Speaker 3: you've got to hold the ball and be able to
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  Speaker 3: run the ball against the number one run defense in
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  Speaker 3: the country. And so it is not an impossible task.
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  Speaker 3: It never is. But it is a tall task. Carolina's
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  Speaker 3: going to have to play its best game. But this
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  Speaker 3: is also, guys, and I know I've gone long here,
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  Speaker 3: This is a game where you're glad you have a
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  Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, right? Like I can just imagine coach Belichick
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  Speaker 3: loving this challenge. of trying to figure out a way
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  Speaker 3: to get a team that's solid. Carolina's solid, but Miami's
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  Speaker 3: excellent right now. And so how do you get your
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  Speaker 3: team that's a capable, solid team to be able to
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  Speaker 3: compete with this team that has championship aspirations right now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was talking some X's and O's during the press,
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  Speaker 2: Sir Jones. It was so interesting. We were talking about
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  Speaker 2: how you can double Malachi Toney, but he says this
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  Speaker 2: dude is so good, he beats double teams constantly. So
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  Speaker 2: like you are taking a guy away that can help
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  Speaker 2: elsewhere and it's not even working. So it's, I agree
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  Speaker 2: with you. Like I will, he will like the challenge schematically. Um,
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  Speaker 2: but man, that's my him. team is legit i did
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  Speaker 2: want to ask you real quick jones before we let
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  Speaker 2: you go on the hoop side and i am i'm
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  Speaker 2: actually happy to report i thought a bunch of charlotte
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  Speaker 2: 49er fans would be on here saying hey jones why
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  Speaker 2: why were we so close to you but they're being
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  Speaker 2: very respectful today but it was it was interesting yesterday
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  Speaker 2: on the show jones Charlotte fans were really encouraged and
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  Speaker 2: excited by the way they pushed UNC. UNC fans, like
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  Speaker 2: Fitty over there, were upset and stressed out about it
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  Speaker 2: despite the fact it was a win. Did you feel like, man,
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  Speaker 2: I think Wes Miller's got himself a team there that
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  Speaker 2: can do some stuff, or did you watch that game
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  Speaker 2: and feel like, man, the Tar Heels were bad? What
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  Speaker 2: did you think?
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  Speaker 3: It was both as it normally is. I mean, first
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  Speaker 3: of all, Wes Miller is an excellent coach and you
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  Speaker 3: can win at Charlotte. And it's been a while since
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  Speaker 3: somebody has, but you can win there. And Wes Miller's
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  Speaker 3: a really good coach. He gets his guys to play
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  Speaker 3: really hard. I had a chance to talk to him
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  Speaker 3: for a while after the game, and he just talked
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  Speaker 3: about how excited he was about this group and how
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  Speaker 3: much he liked them and how hard he could coach
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  Speaker 3: them and that They would take that coaching and try
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  Speaker 3: to apply it. I think Wes is really excited about
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  Speaker 3: what he has and thinks he can win there and
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  Speaker 3: win there soon. The Tillery guard is a really good player.
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  Speaker 3: and they're physical and just play tough. So I think
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  Speaker 3: if you're looking at it from the Charlotte angle, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of positives there. From the Tar Heel angle, a
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  Speaker 3: couple different things. One, the heels were awful for the
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  Speaker 3: first 14 minutes of that game. It looked like one
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  Speaker 3: team was playing it like it was a regular season
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  Speaker 3: game and one team was still playing like it was
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  Speaker 3: an exhibition. And so then they did get much better
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  Speaker 3: after that, but you had dug yourself a 15-point hole,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't care who you're playing, it takes a
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  Speaker 3: while to get out of a 15-point hole. But then
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  Speaker 3: you get to the point where you're up seven in
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  Speaker 3: the second half and you then let Charlotte back in
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  Speaker 3: it again. And so all those things are areas of
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  Speaker 3: growth for Carolina. The Tar Heels need their full roster.
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  Speaker 3: Matt Abel didn't play in this game. They desperately need
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  Speaker 3: Cam Fins to get eligible to provide them some size
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  Speaker 3: and experience in the post. And this is the thing
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  Speaker 3: that I've had to remind myself too, guys. None of
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  Speaker 3: these games have counted yet. You feel like the season
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  Speaker 3: is like several weeks old because you've seen all these
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  Speaker 3: teams a fair amount, but none of these have counted yet.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's still so early. If Carolina's playing like
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  Speaker 3: this in late February, then they will have had a
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  Speaker 3: difficult season. but you hope that they are able to
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  Speaker 3: improve and get better as they go along this journey.
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  Speaker 3: And the good news is they do have a really
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  Speaker 3: good coach in Michael Malone. Now, Coach Malone has said
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  Speaker 3: he's still, you know, kind of adjusting to the college
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  Speaker 3: game and figuring all that out, and there are changes
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  Speaker 3: and differences. We've seen it in football, and we've talked
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  Speaker 3: about it from that angle. And so can Michael Malone
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  Speaker 3: kind of assimilate faster than what has happened in football?
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  Speaker 3: He'll need to for the Heels to have a season
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  Speaker 3: like they want to have. They have some individual talent.
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  Speaker 3: But can they get it to play together at the
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  Speaker 3: college level? We'll find out.
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  Speaker 2: All right. We appreciate it, Jones. Thanks, as always, man.
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  Speaker 2: Enjoy the game on Saturday night.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks, guys. Talk to you soon.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, Jones Angel. I know a lot of
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  Speaker 2: Heels fans will do it. They'll turn the sound down
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  Speaker 2: on TV. They'll turn Jones and the network up. The
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  Speaker 2: Miami Carolina game, 730 ABC on Saturday night. Tar Heel
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  Speaker 2: Radio Network's got it. WBT's got it. Pre-game at 630.
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  Speaker 2: So there you go. It's go time, Boney. It is
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  Speaker 2: go time, all right? Hey man, sometimes on the football
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  Speaker 2: field bone, you got to play injured.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 2: You got to battle through some things. You got to
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  Speaker 2: make adjustments. So we are, we found ourselves with no
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  Speaker 2: pep talker today. That is a bad game plan by us.
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  Speaker 2: And some people are questioning whether we made the right
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  Speaker 2: choice because our pep talker bone may be under the
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  Speaker 2: influence of drugs from his visit to the dentist office.
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  Speaker 2: And he may, according to his own words, sound like
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  Speaker 2: Daffy Duck during this pep talk bone today.
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  Speaker 3: But.
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  Speaker 2: We're doing it anyway, baby, because we like this man's passion.
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  Speaker 2: He is Husky Pants. He is here to give us
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  Speaker 2: the Panther Thursday pep talk for tonight's game. Husky Pants,
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  Speaker 2: fire Panther Nation up, baby. What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Hey, guys. Yeah, yeah. Thanks for asking me. Frankly, I'm honored. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: long-time listener.
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  Speaker 6: Uh i can't not panther up i i was really
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  Speaker 6: trying to use the dental thing yeah i did get
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  Speaker 6: a tooth extracted and uh not feeling that great but
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  Speaker 6: i can't not panther up and i always hear these
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  Speaker 6: other people being so critical of the panthers but they're
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  Speaker 6: never putting the words behind it you know and they
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  Speaker 6: never they always stay silent they're just always so loud
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  Speaker 6: from the text and that's not right so i'm here
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  Speaker 6: to Bring some fire and desire. So definitely here to
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  Speaker 6: build on some of the greats before. HB from BP.
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  Speaker 6: Mark from Gastonia. Mark with a C. Oh, wait, that's
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  Speaker 6: not right. Weatherman Mark.
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  Speaker 3: Weatherman Mark.
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  Speaker 6: Turtle or in a beef. You are all awesome. But
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  Speaker 6: this Carolina sports region has been burdened for years under
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  Speaker 6: the weight of indignant failure. Our teams and franchises that
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  Speaker 6: we all hold dear are all too frequently mocked by brainless,
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  Speaker 6: by splainless fools who do not know the people of
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  Speaker 6: this region. Because we choose to keep pounding, not when
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  Speaker 6: it's easy, but when it's hard. It will be hard
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  Speaker 6: tonight for our Carolina Panthers. The tundra will not be kind.
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  Speaker 6: We must will our team forward just as they have
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  Speaker 6: kept pounding forward after being decimated by injury.
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  Speaker 3: Do it for your team.
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  Speaker 6: Do it for your Panther brothers and sisters.
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  Speaker 2: Do it for the love of 30 Vols.
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  Speaker 6: There you go, baby.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. That's a pep talk right there. Was
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  Speaker 2: that John F. Kennedy at one point? What did he
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  Speaker 2: morph into there? Husky, great job, brother.
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  Speaker 4: That's a great job. You look up pep talk, you'll
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  Speaker 4: see his face right there. That's a hell of a
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  Speaker 4: pep talk.
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  Speaker 2: That man battled through a rough day at the dentist
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  Speaker 2: and brought it, baby. Might have written a script as well.
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  Speaker 4: We had to extract the bucks from our backside and
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  Speaker 4: then a tooth out of Husky pants. But we got
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  Speaker 4: the pep talk done. I think we might see him
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  Speaker 4: again next week. I'm changing my pick. Are you still there? No,
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  Speaker 4: he's still there. Good job, Husky.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, bud. I'm changing my pick. Panthers 28, Packers 20.
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  Speaker 4: Because of that right there.
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  Speaker 2: He made you change your pick? Well, I got carried away.
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  Speaker 2: He inspired you? I kind of got carried away.
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  Speaker 7: You want to join in on the fray, Mac?
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  Speaker 2: You want to Panther up?
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  Speaker 3: That was good.
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  Speaker 2: Or you want to go over there and be a little...
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  Speaker 2: I do want to Panther up, but I have to
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  Speaker 2: make a public appearance tonight. and I'm about as scared
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  Speaker 2: as Pat McAfee is at a public appearance in Utah.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: So I don't want to— if I panther up, somebody might
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: be mad at me. Hey, nobody DM Mac right now.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: I'm kidding, man. I'm kidding. I'm getting threats, too. Somebody
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: just said they're going to contact— Turd Ferguson just said he's
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: going to contact the bosses— and try to say Mac
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: is out and the young guns are in, 6 a.m.
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: To 10 a.m.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: I'd be a threatened dude.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: If Mac picked the Panthers to win, Turd Ferguson would
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: be mad that Mac picked the Panthers to win.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: It is weird.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Turd wanted me to pick the Panthers, but I can
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: assure you the masses did not want me to pick
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: the Panthers.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Turd, let's not get carried away. Don't take Mac. Don't
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: make him jobless. Let's just have us switch jobs. He
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: runs the board, and I talk and yell at him
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: for four hours.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Roll reversal. We should do that in the summer. We
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: could do Freaky Friday on a Friday in the summer
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: where we come in, we change roles. I would love
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: to see you run a board. I cut my teeth
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: running the board, baby. Where am I going? So he
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: just stays in the same place?
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: I forgot about Bone there.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Actually, we honestly think— He would have to go run
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: the board, and then I would have to go to
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: his seat. Hold on a second. That's how we do it.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: If Mack runs the board, do we think he's not
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: going to just talk the whole time from over there?
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I'd be like Flounder. I'd talk so much running that board.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Nice kid, Flounder. Just kidding, baby. Poppy kind.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: When we come back, we're going to talk to Ryan Wood,
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: longtime Green Bay writer, for a preview of the game
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: tonight from the Green Bay side of things.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Ryan is next. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Mack and Bone with you. This has been a lively one.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Between the Panther game day conversation and can these boys
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: please bounce the heck back from Sunday and the Nas
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Reed benching last night. There's a lot of stuff going on.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Willie P. Had a one-minute dissertation during the FC win
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: about moon cycles. I mean, there's just a lot of
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: good content. Go back and listen to what you missed
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: on today's Mac and Bone Show in podcast form, WFNZ.com, Apple,
• 18:53
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• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Sports South End. Awesome sports bar, ginormous TVs. A whole
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: big old wall TV. The game's going to be on tonight.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: KB from three until six doing his show. I join
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: him at six. We do countdown the kickoff at platform
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: tonight to get you ready for Panthers and Packers. The
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Packers are also attempting to bounce backbone. There's a difference though.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: They didn't give up 258 yards rushing and they did
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: not lose by, by 30 to a team that was
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: one in five, but they are four and three disappointing
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: by their standards. And in last in a very tough
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: division tonight, so you know they are going to be
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: ready tonight. Ryan Wood will be ready as well. He
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: is the Packers beat writer for the USA Today Network.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: He joins us here on the Mac and Bone Show
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: to give us a scoop on the Green Bay side
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: of things. He might be hung over from celebrating the Brewers'
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: World Series win last night. I'm not sure. Ryan, what's
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: going on, man? How you doing? doing?
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you this.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: You guys have come to the Badger State at a very.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Very rare time.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: 95% of the time, this is a Packers state. I mean,
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: this is football. It's the final weekend of October. It's
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: all Packers up here. You drive around the streets of
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: Green Bay right now. We're not even talking Milwaukee. Green Bay.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: You see the Halloween lights everywhere. They're all blue and yellow,
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: and they've been that way for a couple weeks. So, yeah,
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: it's a brewer state at the moment.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Someone on our text line today, Ryan, said maybe the
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Panthers catch the Packers crowd a little sleepy and hungover.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: I had to point out I'm pretty sure the folks
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: of Wisconsin can drink and party on back-to-back nights.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: The batteries up here go more than one evening. They
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: go maybe more than a week sometimes.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: You're all right.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think there's any concern there, but, you know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: To the point you just made, kind of what happened
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: last year, isn't it?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: The Panthers come up here.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: I don't think much was expected in terms of them
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: walking out of Lambeau Field with a win.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: And what do you know? They did.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: And so it's going to be hard for the Panthers
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: to sneak up on the Packers this time because it
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: just happened a year ago. That doesn't mean the Packers
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: team can't go out and lay an egg. They did
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: that week three. And the last time they hosted a
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: short week game at Lambeau Field against the Atlanta Falcons,
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: they got blown out on their home field. That can happen.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: But if that happens, I don't think it's because the
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Panthers snuck up on them.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: They know. They've got to bring their A game.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: That's a good point. That's a very good point. All right, Ryan,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: let's talk about Green Bay. I'm interested to see what
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: you think the offense approach will be. The Panthers are
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: in a situation where, man, they're playing two young corners.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: We don't even know who the one starter is going
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: to be. The other is a rookie. who's played well,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: but a rookie in Will Lee with Jackson and Hornout.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: But also when y'all are, when they're watching the tape
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: into Packers offices this week, they're seeing a hideous run defense.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Do you think they see it as a week with
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Jacobs back to finally get a run game going? Do
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: you think they attack the corners? Do they do a
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: little bit of both? Like, how do you think they'll
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: play it offensively tonight?
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: I think this is a week, especially with what happened
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: a few days ago for the Panthers run defense, that
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: if I don't see the Packers run the ball tonight,
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: I very much begin to doubt whether it's going to
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: happen at any point this season. Now, with that said,
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: as much as that was a hideous run defense, this
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: is a hideous Packers offensive line. It is quite possibly,
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: if not likely, the worst offensive line in the NFL.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: So I don't have a degree of confidence there. for
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: this Packers run game against anybody right now. You look
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: at last week, four days ago, Josh Jacobs comes back
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: against Detroit. They've got their running back back. It was
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: 36 yards on 11 carries. That's not great, obviously. So
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: the Lions have a better run defense than the Panthers do.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: As much as the Lions' back end is bad, their
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: front is quite good. And so can this Packers run
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: game get on track for really the first time on season–
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: This is a historically bad run game. They're averaging 60
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: yards rushing per game to this point in the season.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: The last team in the NFL to average 60 yards
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: rushing per game through a season. was the 1946 Detroit Lions.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: It hasn't been done since the 1940s. And oh, by
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: the way, even with Josh Jacobs back against Detroit, they
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: left Motown with 60 rushing guards against the Lions as
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: a team. It didn't exactly bolster that run game. So
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: if the play in the Carolina Panthers camp, I don't
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: think anything's going to.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: They didn't even have helmets back then, if I'm not mistaken.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: That's how long ago that was. Or face masks.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: The 1946 Detroit Lions. That's hard to do.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: That is crazy.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: We're talking to Ryan Wood here on the Mac and
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Bone Show. He's on social media, on Twitter, at ByRyanWood.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Give him a follow for any Packers insight heading into
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: the game tonight. A lot of injuries on both sides, Ryan.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Matthew Golden is a guy we've been watching on the
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Packers side, the wide receiver. How much does his status
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: impact this game tonight?
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Quite a bit.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: He's had a breakout second season recently. He was the
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: first-round pick last year for a franchise that had gone
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: 22 years without drafting a receiver in the first round.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: It was the longest streak in the NFL. And then
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: Matthew Golden comes onto the scene last year as a rookie,
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: the first-round pick, and he barely plays. Some of that's injury.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: Some of that's just being buried in a crowded receiving room.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: And the Packers this offseason really rearranged the furniture. They
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: let Romeo Dobbs walk in free agency. They traded Dontavion Wicks.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: to the Philadelphia Eagles, all with the idea, first and foremost,
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: of getting Matthew Golden on the field, getting him targets,
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: and making him a much bigger part of this offense.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: That has worked very, very well to this point in
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: the season, but it's not all Matthew Golden either. Christian
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: Watson's the alpha. He's wide receiver one. He's good to go.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: So long as Christian Watson's on the field, Jordan Love
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: is going to have a guy that he can really
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: target this Panther secondary with, and The strength of this
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: offense has been the verticality of their passing game. They
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: are very explosive. They're a little too explosive player bust,
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: and that's where they've struggled to sustain drives this season.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: But this is a Packers passing game that can hit
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: a bomb on you at any time, from anywhere, any
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: moment of the game.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: No doubt. No doubt. And that worries us with our
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: corner situation for the Panthers. No doubt. Ryan, let's go
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: to the other side of the ball defensively for the Packers.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: No Micah Parsons. So he is yet to yet to
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: be able to play off that injury. It seems like
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Van Ness, though, has been a pretty good pass rusher.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: What are the what are the what are the strengths
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: and what are the I know they're forcing turnovers and
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: picking off passes. So what are the strengths and weaknesses
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: of that unit?
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon, like a lot of the NFL, has really
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: ripped the pages from Brian Flores' playbook, and he's adopted
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: that eight-man-up blitz pre-snap look at the line of.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Scrimmage where he drops guys, he sends guys.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: It's hard to know who's coming and going. They've gotten
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: some success with that, being able to bolster the pass
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: rush without Micah Parsons, but it hasn't been every week.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, just in Detroit this past week, Jared Goff
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: picked them apart because Jared Goff had nobody in his face.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: And every time they did have someone in his face,
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: like Carl Brooks on the last drive or Brenton Cox Jr.,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: they got blocked into Jared Goff. There's been a roughing
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: the passer. That's been a big point of conversation for
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: all season, really. The Packers have been called for eight
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: roughing the passer penalties. Jordan Love, who's been hit over
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: 50 times this season, more than any quarterback in the league,
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: has yet to get a roughing the passer penalty. So
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Packers fans kind of scratching their head about the math
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: on that. But this is a pass rush without Micah
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: Parsons that has shown it can get after the quarterback,
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: and it has shown that.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: It can be blanked.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: It's hard to know week in and week out what
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: to expect from it.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Ryan, so much of this league is about what you're
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: coming off of, what's ahead, when do you get a team.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: How big is this game for the Packers season tonight?
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Because they're in the NFC North. Also, up next, it's
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Minnesota-New England, right, coming up after this game?
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: Correct. It is huge.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: They need this game.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: This game puts them at 5-3. To your point, they're
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: into the NFC North. Every team in the NFC North
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: is plus 500. I mean, five and three in other
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: divisions is.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: A really good record.
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: It might be leading your division. They're last place in
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: the division at four and three right now. That's the
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: NFC North in 2026. So just in terms of keeping pace,
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: they need this game. They get the weekend off, obviously,
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: and then it's to New England. And then it's a
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: Vikings defense that against this offensive line is Good luck.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: They need to get the games that are winnable. This
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: is a winnable game for the Packers now. It's a
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: winnable game for the Panthers too. And both of these
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: teams very much in the same boat where a lot
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: of times in these short week games, players hate them.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Their bodies haven't recovered yet. They're sore.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: It's painful.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: These two teams are, I think, going to approach this
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: game different because coming off the losses that both of
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: them had, came off of very different losses, but the
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: type of losses where you want to go back out
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: Monday and play more football because that wasn't it, and
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: it leaves a very bitter taste in your mouth. I
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: think both of these teams have that similarity where they're
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: carrying that into this game.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. All right. Last thing I want to ask about
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: is kind of how everybody feels up there about Matt
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: LaFleur as coach. This has not been a terrible start,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: but it's certainly below the standard, and I know people
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: were already questioning his status going into the season. How
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: are fans kind of feeling about the floor? And is
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: there really like a hot seat situation with him? Like,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: like internally, what do you think?
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Not internally.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: He just got extended this off season. Everyone coming out
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: of that Chicago playoff meltdown to your biggest rival, everyone, media, myself,
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: Everyone outside that building looked at that game and thought,
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: you know, it's been seven years. It's probably time. It's
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: probably time at this point to turn the page, to reset.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: Ed Policy, Packers president, said, nope. He said this offseason
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: it was shocking to him that there was any thought
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: that someone who's won as many games as Matt LeFleur
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: in this league, and he has won a lot of.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Games, would be on the hot seat.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: So the Packers, he's not on the hot seat there.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: The fans, they're much depends on the week. They snapped
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: a three-game winning streak in Detroit four days ago. During
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: that three-game winning streak, I think that fan approval was rising.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: It was frankly shocking that this team, without Micah Parsons,
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: with this offensive line, without Josh Jacobs, had started 4-2.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: I didn't see that. And good coaches can get their
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: teams to win games when they don't have all the pieces,
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: when they're not clicking at the highest level, they still
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: go out there and win. Matt LaFleur is doing that.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: If he loses tonight, will the fans put him back
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: on the hot seat?
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: That's kind of where they're at.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: What have you done for me lately? And it's very
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: much a week-to-week proposition at this point.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: All right, man.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Great stuff. Great information. It's a huge game for both teams.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: It's going to be intense tonight. Ryan Wood, thank you
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: so much, man, for coming on. Appreciate you.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: Take care, guys.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: All right, there you go. That is Ryan Wood, Packer
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: beat writer for the USA Today Network. What do you think, Bone?
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Is that me? That's me.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: What do you got going on over there? You know
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: the outstanding Tiny Desk theme, Mac? Our own guys got
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: us this time. It's now the FNZ version of.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: It right here. Who's on the sacks? This is on
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: the FNZ Twitter page. Oh, Bailey's on the sack. He's
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: doing the sack. I love those things. They are so funny, man.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: We probably like there's been so many, it's probably jumped
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: the shark, but now we are involved in the water.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: That's a trip. I'm a new digital guy named Josh here.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: I think he might be involved in that.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: He's all over that.
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: That's Josh in the building.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: You want to put.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: That out there?
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: There's a Josh in TV also down there that's doing
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: a great job. Yeah, I don't know. Top three ain't
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: bad for you. How about Tiny Archibald in the building?
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: He does not like Tiny Archibald. No, I don't think
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: it's going to stick. Walker wanted it to stick, though, man.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: He's tiny and he's bald.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Walker would have taken me up on the offer when
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I offered to drive him to Chapel Hill, watch a
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: basketball game, drive him back.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: He was very confused on why he would do that.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: The guy, the guy claims to be like the biggest
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: 49er fan.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: I think he watched them here. They're a Charlotte team.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: He can watch them here.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: I think it was the, he would have to be
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: with you and flounder for hours upon hours. I think
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: that was the issue. We're really not that bad. I mean,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: we're really not. What are you offering? If someone wants
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: to hang out with you and flounder, what are you offering?
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: Uh, I was going to drive him, buy him something
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: to eat, something to drink.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: You were going to buy him something. Finney got to
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: bribe people to go out with him to the game.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: A couple of things I wanted to say, Bone, about
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Ryan Wood and what he said there. First of all,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I hope the Packers are looking at this, looking at
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the game from last week, the Panthers' defense, and saying,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: this is a chance for us to get our running
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: game going. Because I think, and I misspoke earlier, the
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: number is that the Panthers, for the four games in
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: between the two horrible run defense games, they gave up
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: less than 100 yards on average a game. Not in
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: every game, because Atlanta... Um, uh, and, uh, two of
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: those games went over 500 or went over a hundred,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: not 500. We'll do that soon. Um, I believe they're
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: capable bone. We've seen it, uh, playing much better run defense.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: And I think if this horrendous run blocking offensive line
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: in green Bay, if they want to try to run
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: and spare our corners, I would welcome it. Yeah, absolutely. Well, yeah, yeah.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: That's a formula for the Panthers for success is taking
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: the ball out of Jordan Love's hands.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: I completely agree with that. So I hope they view
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: it that way. The other thing I thought while listening
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: to Ryan Wood talk is we are getting called for multiple.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: roughing the passer penalties tonight are we not like they
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: the little taparoos to the helmet all like he just
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: said love hasn't gotten any the Packers been called for
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: eight the Packers players ripped the refs after the game
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Micah Parsons on his podcast this is the only way
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: he can help he was he was saying they got
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: screwed I just I just have a bad feeling tonight
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be like you know what the Packers deserve
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: a couple of these Derek Brown just breathed on Jordan
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: flag and he's had a couple penalties this year as well.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Um yeah we've done this we should just you know
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: not waste time and put the flag down now so
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: when they go on the field like what's that flag
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: well let's just get.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: It out of the way first down move the chains
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: what is it derrick brown just roughed him all right
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: now can we play ball.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Oh man i'm worried about that now All righty. By
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: the way, Bailey, a hell of a saxophone player. It
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: looks natural to him. You're doing the cheesing, smiling part
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: of this video.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I am. It's also mulleted back on there. You know
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: what I mean? It's a throwback to, well, I don't know,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: five weeks ago. We come back. It's the wrap-up.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: We get you set for a busy day in sports,
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: including the Panther game tonight. The people asked for it.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: We deliver. When I say people, Willie P asked for
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: his goal calls to be played. And they will next.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: You get it, P, man. Sports Radio 92.7. The P.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Nice steal back by Byrne. Pass to Pet Biel. A
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: shot for Obata.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: He scores!
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: A hat-trick off the bench from Liel Obata!
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: What a second-half performance!
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: I have to say, he's pointing his starting spot back.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Floor nil, Charlotte. And all three in this second half
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: from Liel Obata. There you go, baby. As requested, the
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: people asked for it, Bone Man. The people wanted the P-Man.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: That is him calling Liel Abada's third goal a hat trick,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: as Willie said, off the bench. Man, just clinical finishes, too.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Charlotte wins 4-0.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: A lot of Willie P fans demanded that play, including
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Willie P on the text line.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I respect it, though, P. Do your PR, baby. We
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: got you. We're going to pump you up. You know
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: what I mean? If we're going to give Willie a
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: hard time every time a child tells their parent bone
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: that Willie P annoys them on the radio, we can
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: only be fair and salute Willie P's goal.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Calls, baby.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I believe we have one of those today, as a
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: matter of fact. What happened? There was another parent.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Jeff, the Braves fan, right, sent in a text that
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: his two-and-a-half-year-old daughter yells Willie P out when Mickey Mouse
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: is on TV.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, P-Man, the kids, the kids, the kids
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: are taking you, P-Man. I think Willie P should, WFNZ
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: should do some programming for children and parents to watch,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: to listen to together on WFNZ. Willie P could do
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: different goal calls to excite the young. Willie P reads
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: children's stories.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Could you imagine?
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I'd pay for that subscription. Could you imagine that?
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: We have Miss Rachel. Now we have Mr.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Willie P. Willie P, baby. I see some new.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: I just see an Instagram thing here of a snack
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: site I follow. I'm going to give you the new
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: snack releases for the fall and winter of chips. Do
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: you want to see your interest level here? Are you
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: interested in Lay's roasted holiday turkey chips?
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Kind of. I don't know. Is that good in chip form, though?
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: Lay's cheddar scalloped style potato chips.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: No. I don't really like scalloped potatoes. Maple bacon chips.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: That feels like Mac. I'm interested, baby.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: How about this one? This one got Fitty. While there's
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: lemon pepper Doritos, I would probably pass on that.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I like that lemon pepper.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: How about brown sugar barbecue Chex Mix? Ooh, that's the
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: winner right there, isn't it? Yeah, game over.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Heck yeah, that sounds good. Fitty butter churned over that one.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: That's exciting.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Anyway, tonight, KB, from 3 until 8, KB will be
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: out there at Platform Sports. I'll join him at 6
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: for the pregame show. Good spot to watch the game.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Have a cold one tonight. Panther Bo wants to hear
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Goodnight Moon, read by Willie P. Good night, waning gibbous moon. Yo. Oh, God,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: that's amazing. All right, anyway, let's get some more text. 704-570-9610.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Keep firing those babies in here. All right, let's see
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: what we got going on on the text line tonight.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Kevin says, the problem is you got a feeling, Mac.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: You're basically admitting you have no idea what the issue was,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: and you're just blindly taking Charles Lee's side. Forgive me
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: for being skeptical. Well, the people also rubbing Charles Lee.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: It's the same. They don't know either though. They don't know.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: That's true. What I am saying is Kevin, I respect
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: a coach that says we have standards. You didn't meet it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: And I respect that. I think, um, uh, and I,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I gotta be honest. I thought this town wanted our
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: coaches to be more like this. That's why I've been
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: so surprised by the fan reaction. I have thought that
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: you guys thought Canalis and Lee were nice guy coaches
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: and And you wanted them to have an edge and
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: you wanted to hold them accountable. So what I am
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: doing is saying good on you, Charles Lee, that's coaching.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: That's coaching where I need to send a message. I
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: don't know what went on, but what I like is
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: actual coaching and message sending rather than letting NBA players,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: you know, walk all over you, which is the, which
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: is the other side of the spectrum.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: Also, there's a lot of complaints about Ron Rivera, not
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: being demonstrative enough on the sidelines either.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: It goes all the way back that far. It does.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: It does. No doubt. So, again, I don't know. I mean,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to respect that he has a standard,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, he did what he did. I
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: also can recognize we play 82 games in the NBA,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: and we really don't need to cry anymore. about a
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: message being sent costing us like that that's over dramatic man.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: We have a prominent nfl network analyst that expects a
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: panthers bounce back tonight on good morning football wwe superstar
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: slash good morning football host seth rollins has picked the
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: panthers to win tonight i would.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Get excited about that but isn't he a bear fan
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: that hates the packers yes.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: So I do need to point that out. As soon
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: as I said that, I realized, oh, yeah, that's why.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: He did that.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: That's pretty cool, though, that he's on there, to be honest.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: That's a cool dual role that he has.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: I like that. He loves it, too. He loves football.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: All right, let's read some of these texts here. This
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: texter says, hopefully Mac Green Bay ripping the refs pisses
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: the refs off this week and they continue to not
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: call roughing the passer. Yeah, they could go that way, too.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: I'm more paranoid, like, oh, they're finally going to get
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: their calls again. and it's going to be against us.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I heard Sheena and Joe Person and Dunk, Aaron Duncan,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: on their podcast talking about this referee crew. I don't
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: really have knowledge of referee crews. I don't pay attention
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: to it. They said that this referee crew, whoever the
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: heck they are, P-Man will be able to tell you,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Smoke Ludwig has their home addresses ready to go.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: But they were saying that they call a lot of stuff,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: throw a lot of flags. And what are you getting?
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: You already have the number one penalized team, Green Bay,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: and the number four penalized team, the Panther. Could be
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of laundry tonight, Bones. Rob Hunt, don't you dare. Oh, no.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: They're watching you, Rob Hunt. Texter says, Max said Fitty
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: had to pay people to go out with him. Now
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: we know how he got his girlfriend. Moneybags Marlo, clearly.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Daddy Warbucks over there. No, that is love right now.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I can tell you right now, those are two smitten kittens.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Aren't they, Bone? You can tell, can't you?
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: 100%.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like this is, they found their people. I don't
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: want to Matt curse it, though, y'all. Yeah, that could
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: never happen. I don't want to do that. I didn't
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Matt curse Bone's first marriage, despite the accusations. Good luck
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: to you guys, and that was all it took. All right,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: let's see what else we got going on here. How
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: have I not Matt cursed my own marriage? Seriously. Did
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: my parents pay Christina money or something? I just don't
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: know about it. Why the heck?
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: Well, we thought for a while she was a paid actress.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: And then you started having kids, and it's like, wow,
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: that's really buying into the role here.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: She really is into the role. All right, let's see
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: what else we have. People commenting on Husky Pants. First
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: time Panther pep talker today. One texter says he gave
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: me goosebumps. This dude said that is one of the
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: greatest speeches since Tim Tebow's Ole Miss speech back in
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: the day. Now, here's a funny one. I never really
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: think there are that many crazy people in Charlotte until
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: I listen to this show. husky pants is a crazy
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: person i thought he i thought that was good though.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah you're no he did a great job but you're
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: saying that without reading his text either oh yeah.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: He's he has you did that wasn't the full crazy
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: husky pants he is involved in a lot of conversations
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: that we aren't involved in it's true we don't know
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: what's going on.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: The next evolution of the uh of the text line
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: down the line would be where the texters could just
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: talk to each other where we can just sit here
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: and do the show.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Let them have a conversation. They would love to. You
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: know how they hate on each other? Oh, my God.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: That would be good. Just let them have it out,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: and then we just do the play-by-play? Until they turn
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: on us.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: How many people would Weatherman Mark call a fart knocker?
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Weatherman Mark, he did support Husky Pants.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Said that was a hell of a job. Mac, you
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: asked for it.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Here he is.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: Scott Novak's in the white hat. This game won't be
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: over until Saturday. That dude gets paid every time he
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: opens his mic, yo.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Ha, ha, ha.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I knew Pete would know about the ref and, like,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: what the scouting report is.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Scott Novak was a former Marquette basketball player. I thought so, too. Oh,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Steve Novak. Okay, that's his brother. Former Nick, Bone.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: We suggested earlier, because Finney said Maumau, Finney's not around
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: as much. He's hanging out with his lovely girlfriend. So
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Maumau is kind of lonely. We said, well, Bone said
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: send Flounder over to hang out with her. Texter says
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: if you send Flounder over to Mom-O's, Fitty might have
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: to start calling him Paul-Paul Flounder at some point. Oh,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: my God.
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: That is gross.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Don't do that to Fitty, y'all.
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: Now, if I send him to my aunt's house, I
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: may have to start calling him Uncle.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: She's lonely, too.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: If you come home with Flounder's wearing a robe, say goodnight, Fitt.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Smoking a cigar. By the way, Mackers, I have my
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: pick contest tomorrow with Picante, and I like to call that.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Light Work Friday. Oh, man. I couldn't handle Picante, but
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: you're a much better picker than me. I got this.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: You got him? He's good, though. He's legit, though.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: He spent his entire week on trying to beat me here.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: This dude says, Willie P, again, the smartest guy at
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: the station. His moon knowledge shows you guys were dunces
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: in school, and Willie P was an honor student. We've
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: never had moon class.
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: Or maybe he's just a loser, and we actually were
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: cool kids.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Is it possible that when we were out partying, he
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: was being a nerd? No. Very possible. One texter did
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: say their child just did the moon cycles in fourth grade.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: But I said I was in fourth grade 45 years ago.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: There's no way I'm remembering that crap. All I know
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: about fourth grade, that's when the Rangers won the cup.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: You're right. We have stuffed our minds with just... Like,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: useless sports stuff. Not useless school stuff.
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: Well, how much of the stuff we learn in school
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: applies to everyday life?
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: That's what I said earlier.
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: Like, school was one of the biggest waste of time.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: A lot of it was. A lot of it doesn't
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: get applied.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: And then you learn history, but guess what? There's more
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: of it happens. I would argue you're always behind.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: I would argue it's not a waste of time, though,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: because the parents need some sanity. That's all it is.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: They need to get those kids away.
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: It's just free babysitting for 18 years.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: All right, we are out of here, everybody. We'll talk
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: to you tomorrow on a Panther Friday. You know we're
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: going to still have some college football involved, Lee Sterling's picks,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Bone versus Picante. Panthers, make it a happy Friday tomorrow.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Get it done, y'all. Get it done. Good work out
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: of Fit, Bone. See you tonight at Platform Sports if
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: you want to hang out. Everybody enjoy their Thursday game day.