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Ep. 590: A Hot Summer of Fishing at the Shack · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: yeah wow, yeah. Pressure's on. Now keep that keep that status.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna run around. How So we're at our fishack
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  Speaker 1: in Alaska. Jamie Fitzgerald is here, Jamie, I'm gonna I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna talk about how I know you guys when in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety lean back a little bit sets people can
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  Speaker 1: see fits there in nineteen ninety trying to think I
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  Speaker 1: did two years at community college. I did a semester
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  Speaker 1: at Lake State, and I think it would have been winner.
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  Speaker 2: Of ninety five.
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  Speaker 1: Somewhere around there. Winter in ninety five, I moved down
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  Speaker 1: to Grand Rapids, Michigan, bounced around a little bit, and
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  Speaker 1: then landed in a house with YouTube and some other people.
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  Speaker 1: Uh it was it was such a house that turnover
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  Speaker 1: was so high there that none of the people that
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  Speaker 1: lived there. I remember someone realizing that no one that
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  Speaker 1: lived there was on the lease like other people, other
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  Speaker 1: forgotten individuals had signed the lease and it was or
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  Speaker 1: maybe Schmidty was on the lease, was on the.
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  Speaker 2: Least, but he was in Washington at that point by
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  Speaker 2: the time you got here.
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  Speaker 1: And that's how I met Fitzgerald and Andrew Radjulowski. Jamie Fitzgerald,
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  Speaker 1: r Andrew Ragelowski.
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  Speaker 2: How many years ago was that I was thinking about
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  Speaker 2: this almost thirty years.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, coming up on thirty.
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  Speaker 1: One of my favorite sentences, if I told you the sentence,
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  Speaker 1: probably the best sentence I ever heard, was said in
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  Speaker 1: that house. Our other roommate who's not with us, Mark Schmidt,
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  Speaker 1: was from Sheboygan, Wisconsin, and he really liked Sheboygan brats. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: he would periodically from his mother get a box the
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  Speaker 1: Brons big box. Andy would boil those brots in I
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  Speaker 1: think beer.
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  Speaker 5: Beer onions and butter.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all these brots and beer, onions and butter. He
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  Speaker 1: was in culinary arts school.
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  Speaker 6: That's what I wanted. That's the first one.
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  Speaker 1: So he knew this. He knew this trick. Okay, and
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  Speaker 1: you the leftovers I'm leading up to word of sense.
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  Speaker 1: The leftovers would go into the fridge and the butter
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  Speaker 1: would solidify on the roof. On the top, you'd get
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  Speaker 1: like an inch of half inch of butter form a
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  Speaker 1: rock hard layer, and under that would be beer and brots.
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  Speaker 1: Hold that in mind. Okay, we were talking about those
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  Speaker 1: are in the fridge, and we're talking about we're having
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  Speaker 1: a conversation about ice fishing in the middle of the night.
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  Speaker 1: And Andy then says my favorite sentence I've ever heard
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  Speaker 1: in reference to the in the pot and the fridge.
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  Speaker 1: He says, if you want to talk about late night
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  Speaker 1: ice fishing, why don't you go aug ur a hole
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  Speaker 1: through that butter and pull out one of that bloggers.
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  Speaker 7: And that's great trophy brats.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one of my best sentences ever. Seth's
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  Speaker 1: always on the show, you know him. My brother Danny's
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  Speaker 1: on the show. And to set the scene here, what
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  Speaker 1: year was it that? What year was it that we
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  Speaker 1: bought this place? Oh six o god? And then explain
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  Speaker 1: to people how you uh explain to people how you
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  Speaker 1: came out to the island.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I was working for the University of Alaska at
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  Speaker 8: the time, and we were starting a new project and
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  Speaker 8: in southeast where we were doing some water quality mining
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  Speaker 8: or water quality monitoring, mostly related to like timber harvest
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  Speaker 8: and mining and that sort of thing. And we had
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  Speaker 8: a few meetings in different villages just letting people know
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  Speaker 8: what we were all about and what we were doing
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  Speaker 8: down here.
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  Speaker 1: And when we.
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  Speaker 8: Went to Cassan, the the village kind of through a
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  Speaker 8: little get together and invited folks to come meet us.
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  Speaker 8: And Ron Ron Layton showed up with a bunch of shrimp.
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  Speaker 8: He's been on the show, yeah, yeah, yeah, and he
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  Speaker 8: was very interested in what we were working on and
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  Speaker 8: wanted to get involved in help out. So he invited
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  Speaker 8: us to come base out of his house here in
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  Speaker 8: South ry Cove for a while while we're doing some
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  Speaker 8: of the work and offered the motor USTs around in
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  Speaker 8: his boat, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And you guys are going into streams sampling of invertebrates.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was some water quality measurements and
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  Speaker 8: some stream habitat measurements, some invertebrate sampling, and yeah, we
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  Speaker 8: worked on Dan Bugan and I worked on that project
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  Speaker 8: for a number of years, all over We travel all
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  Speaker 8: over southeast Lastka. It was a pretty deep project. Took
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  Speaker 8: taking the ferry around and chartering airplanes and really got
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  Speaker 8: to see the lay of the land quite a bit.
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  Speaker 8: And the first year ron Ron invited us down for
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  Speaker 8: the first year of the project, and then I didn't
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  Speaker 8: This is before I really knew him. We got in
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  Speaker 8: some argument over the phone and I'm not used to
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  Speaker 8: getting in arguments with like grown men, and I can't
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  Speaker 8: even remember what we were arguing about, and things got
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  Speaker 8: real testy, and like he hung up the phone on me,
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  Speaker 8: and I didn't really know what to make of it,
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  Speaker 8: and we just didn't go. You know, we didn't come
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  Speaker 8: to the cove that first year. I think that was
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  Speaker 8: probably like two thousand and three or two thousand and
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  Speaker 8: two because of the argument. Yeah, I never heard the story.
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  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I just like, Wow, that's not going to
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  Speaker 8: work out, you know, Like that guy is fucking crazy.
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  Speaker 1: And he didn't at the time realize that he was
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  Speaker 1: just crazy exactly exactly so.
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  Speaker 8: But he calls me up like the next year in
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  Speaker 8: the springtime, Hey you guys, you guys coming down this
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  Speaker 8: year like nothing had happened, so like, okay, I'll write again,
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  Speaker 8: you know. And yeah, we showed up and he did
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  Speaker 8: everything he said he was gonna do, and hung out
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  Speaker 8: with him and Joan just I mean, absolutely delightful people.
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  Speaker 8: He took us all over the places we needed to go,
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  Speaker 8: and then the evenings we were running trimp pots and
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  Speaker 8: fish and hall a bit and m I've never even
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  Speaker 8: caught a halbit before. Yeah, we'd anchored it outside the cove.
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  Speaker 8: And the first hel but ever caught was with Ron
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  Speaker 8: and this oh actually no, the first helbot ever caught
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  Speaker 8: was that time you came, Steve, which was maybe two
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  Speaker 8: years later. That must have been like oh four or five, yep. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: and Ron anchors anchored up and kind of got me
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  Speaker 8: into one hundred and seventy pound hell of it. That's
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  Speaker 8: the first one I ever caught.
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  Speaker 1: To this today, that's the biggest hell but I've seen
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  Speaker 1: come up on a rod and reel okay here, you know. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: So yeah, we based out of here for work for
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  Speaker 8: a couple of years, and then Ron just kept inviting
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  Speaker 8: me back to fish and run pots, you know, for
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  Speaker 8: a week at a time every summer, and I and
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  Speaker 8: him and Joan would say, oh, come for two weeks
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  Speaker 8: next year, you know. And and well you came down
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  Speaker 8: with me that one year, Steve. And and then after
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  Speaker 8: after just staying at Ron and Jones for a couple
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  Speaker 8: of years just fishing, you know, after that project was over.
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  Speaker 8: At one point he called and say, Hey, that Jack's
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  Speaker 8: were stale next door. You guys should think about buying it.
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  Speaker 8: So yeah, the rest is history.
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  Speaker 1: Uh. And Matt Drolls, Uh, we've known each other million years.
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  Speaker 1: So we went to the same junior high and high
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  Speaker 1: school and I met in sixth grade camp. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: was that pendlu One camp.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, we were we were I think we were like
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  Speaker 9: we shared the bunk beds.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's because they put your random people because different
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  Speaker 9: elementaries all went to that camp and we just got
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  Speaker 9: paired up. And that's that's the first time. Yeah, Dan
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  Speaker 9: and I met. That would have been sixth grade.
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  Speaker 1: Well a year later he was working there. Ye, such
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  Speaker 1: a memorable experience where reliveing. Uh. Yeah, So we grew
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  Speaker 1: up together in West Michigan. And man, I mean, in
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  Speaker 1: addition to all the normal stuff every high school kids do,
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  Speaker 1: like shooting bottle rockets at each other, going out whooping
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  Speaker 1: it up and hanging out with friends. We did a
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  Speaker 1: ton of very generalist outdoor yeah, very generalist outdoor pursuits everything.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, if you had to make a list of all
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  Speaker 9: the things that we did, like it'd be endless. I mean,
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  Speaker 9: you know, ride around, squirrel hunting and you know, on
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  Speaker 9: up to squid jigging in seattle like we'd like, you know,
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  Speaker 9: kind of ran the gamut, smell dipping.
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  Speaker 1: Smell dipping, yeah, fishing the channel walls for small mouth,
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  Speaker 1: stream fish and.
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  Speaker 9: Trout, taking our prime dates to go smell dipping, busting brush.
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  Speaker 1: Set out for dinner, busting brush for cottontail rab yeah,
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  Speaker 1: hunting morels a little bit later, tons of bluegill fishing,
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  Speaker 1: northern pike fishing through the ice, white fish spearing through
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  Speaker 1: the ice.
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  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, whitefish fishing at the power plant river, steelhead fishing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, I could go on a deep, deep, long
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  Speaker 1: list of activities.
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  Speaker 9: And then you've been coming here for how long I came?
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  Speaker 9: I might have been here the first or second year.
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  Speaker 9: Was the first time I was here. And then there
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  Speaker 9: was a then you're here for my bachelor party, I think,
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  Speaker 9: so yeah, yeah, yeah, And then a couple of times there,
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  Speaker 9: but I've been coming back here consistently since twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 1: And Fitzgerald, you said the other day, you've been here
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  Speaker 1: how many times?
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  Speaker 2: I think this is my fifteenth time here? Fourteenth or fifteenth.
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  Speaker 1: Fitz said the other day, he's been to Alaska fifteen times,
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  Speaker 1: but he's only been here, never been anywhere else.
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  Speaker 2: What else is there?
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  Speaker 1: And then uh, yeah, and you were introduced by way
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  Speaker 1: of your broatworst recipe. So I was going fitz and
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  Speaker 1: I were going on just like regular Joe Blow College
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  Speaker 1: and you were in culinary arts at the time.
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  Speaker 5: But I did a couple of years at Grand Valley
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  Speaker 5: as well. Oh you did some regular college too, And
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  Speaker 5: then right at that whole junction when you moved in,
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  Speaker 5: that was when I transferred over to the colonial program downtown.
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  Speaker 5: And yeah, that house was quite the scene.
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  Speaker 1: The scene, and you were you were making uh when
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  Speaker 1: you took pastry class, I think there was you was
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  Speaker 1: it you and pastry one or pastry two? And so
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  Speaker 1: you'd bring all the pastries home.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, you might be thinking that Mark was working at
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  Speaker 5: a bakery slash deli, that he would bring a bunch
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  Speaker 5: of stuff.
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  Speaker 6: There was always a fridge full of food for a
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  Speaker 6: bunch of broke college kids. We were doing doing hard.
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  Speaker 6: But I remember coming home from class.
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  Speaker 5: And there'd be a couple of big old salmon from
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  Speaker 5: the river and the or was it steel steelhead?
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  Speaker 1: Uh? Tell tell people about your what you went on
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  Speaker 1: to do for your career, which is interesting. You landed
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  Speaker 1: out in the San Juan Islands eventually. Uh.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, after we left Michigan, kind of filtered my way
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  Speaker 5: out to the West coast and out to small island, uh,
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  Speaker 5: San Juan Island out in northwest Washington, north of Seattle there,
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  Speaker 5: and kind of kicked around work for the parks for
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  Speaker 5: a few years, which it was a pretty fun job.
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  Speaker 1: Real lighthouse keeper yep.
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  Speaker 5: But then for the last sixteen years I've been working
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  Speaker 5: for the school district on the island, which is a small,
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  Speaker 5: small community. I mean, the whole district K through twelve
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  Speaker 5: is under thousand, undred thousand kids all the way through.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, I built a food program there kind of
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  Speaker 5: from the ground up, and it's kind of progressive. You know,
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  Speaker 5: everything's from scratch. I source as much local practice as
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  Speaker 5: I can and then kind of go out from there,
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  Speaker 5: you know, And I've got great people working for me
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  Speaker 5: and find really cool grants to bring in a lot
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  Speaker 5: of fresh produce from Washington and Oregon and the surrounding areas.
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  Speaker 1: And when you came in, they were going to scrap
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  Speaker 1: their lunch program.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 5: It was failing because they were just doing the standard garbage,
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  Speaker 5: you know, food and just didn't have the participation to
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  Speaker 5: make it sustainable. So somebody got a hold, somebody got
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  Speaker 5: a hold of a little bit of grant money, and
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  Speaker 5: my name got thrown.
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  Speaker 1: In the ring.
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  Speaker 6: I had no idea.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I never stepped foot in the school before,
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  Speaker 5: and that first year was a lot of trial and error,
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  Speaker 5: and I put a lot of hours in, but I
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  Speaker 5: kind of got got the ship righted and kind of
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  Speaker 5: stuck with it, and yeah, built pretty successful program over
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  Speaker 5: the years.
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  Speaker 1: And how many kids you guys feed every day.
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  Speaker 5: Between breakfast and launch About five five hundred plus.
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  Speaker 1: So he was and he was explaining to my kids
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  Speaker 1: this morning, when you guys do pizza, Hm, well, kids
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  Speaker 1: helped cook. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So I have five classes.
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  Speaker 5: So the way we set it up that and that's
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  Speaker 5: another unique piece of the program that we have is
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  Speaker 5: the fact that I have like a work based learning internship.
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  Speaker 5: And that was kind of the early years. There was
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  Speaker 5: very few electives.
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  Speaker 6: In the district.
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  Speaker 5: There was you know, the standard art and this and that,
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  Speaker 5: and we just had some kids that just had no place,
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  Speaker 5: you know, to land. They weren't doing very good in
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  Speaker 5: the classroom. And some of the counselors kind of approached
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  Speaker 5: me and they said, hey, I've got these kids, a
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  Speaker 5: couple of them that are just lost. I said, zend
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  Speaker 5: them my way, you know, and I put knives in
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  Speaker 5: their pants. Yeah, great idea. There's a real sharp knife kid.
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  Speaker 5: And it kind of took and from that we introduced
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  Speaker 5: an actual class and so I've got five classes full
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  Speaker 5: of kids that it's set up as a work based
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  Speaker 5: learning internship, so they get credit for basically coming in
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  Speaker 5: and work.
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  Speaker 6: It's like I treat it like they've left the building
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  Speaker 6: to come into a job.
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  Speaker 5: So each class kind of knows its roll, and through
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  Speaker 5: the course of the morning, each class kind of has
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  Speaker 5: a different role, but they know they come in. They
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  Speaker 5: set up the station with a cutting board and knife,
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  Speaker 5: and there's a big touchscreen board that they hit the
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  Speaker 5: list every morning. I read a fresh list every morning,
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  Speaker 5: and they start knocking things down and they're yeah, slicing, dicing,
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  Speaker 5: they're cleaning, they're doing all kind of stuff whatever.
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  Speaker 6: I come in and they just they come in. I
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  Speaker 6: just start barking at them.
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  Speaker 1: And so it's like, prepare the lunch.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they help, they yeah, they help.
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  Speaker 1: You make them call you chef.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, they call the chef for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And when you guys do pizza day, you guys are
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  Speaker 1: making dough from scratch and rolling up pizza crust. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for five hundred hundreds of people. Yeah, and when you
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  Speaker 1: guys make mac and cheese, tell me the about give
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  Speaker 1: people just to get a sense. Tell people how you
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  Speaker 1: make mac.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I'd make the sauce from scratch.
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  Speaker 5: So that's about anywhere between twelve to fifteen pounds of butter,
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: twelve to fifteen pounds of flour, about fifteen gallons of milk,
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: and then about thirty to thirty five pounds of dried
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: pasta thirty forty pounds of shreaded cheese. But everything, I mean,
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: that's it, and that's all that's.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Is making mac and cheese. Yeah, it's the coolest thing
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: in the world. Now, it's a lot.
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: And with a lot of kids, it's not.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: A lot of them aren't necessarily going into the hospitality industry,
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: but it's for a lot of kids. I only deal
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: with high school kids, but for some of the younger
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: ones ninth tenth grade, they've never had a job before.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: They don't know, you know, any kind of structure as
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: far as the workforce goes. So it's kind of their
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: first taste of this is what it means to have
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: a job, and this is what it means to have
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: people rely on you every day, because when they don't
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: show up, then.
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: I've got to do double the work or the other
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: students in the class have to do.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: So I treat it as you know, you're on your
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: way to the workforce. This is what it means, no
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: matter if you're in hospitality or if you're in accounting,
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: or if you're whatever you decide to go do. This
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: is what it means to be accountable and have a
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: job and you know, get your head together. And had
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: some kids going to culinary arts. Oh yeah, definitely. I've
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: so said kids all over the place. The Art Institute
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: in Seattle has a great program. I've sent quite a
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: few kids down there. I've sent one kid might actually
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: the regional kid that started the whole program because he
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: was just a wreck. He ended up going all the
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: way over to the New England Colinery Institute. Yeah, seriously, Yep,
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: that's cool, and then went down and did an internship
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: down New Orleans and came back and started a family
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: on the island.
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: The whole work. Yeah, this is one of my my.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: Success sex stories, very old Rowan.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool, that's all. Yeah, well I passed up Matt. Matt,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: you're you teach? Yeah, high school? Yeah, Andy, and I've.
• 20:28
  Speaker 9: Shared a lot of stories about this kind of stuff,
• 20:30
  Speaker 9: and yeah, I can't, you know, have to make this
• 20:32
  Speaker 9: an education podcast, but yeah, it's it's just amazing if
• 20:35
  Speaker 9: you can get him in that right situation because I've
• 20:37
  Speaker 9: had the same not as as as pronounced as that,
• 20:40
  Speaker 9: but you know, running a greenhouse and a garden and
• 20:42
  Speaker 9: an alcophonics facility and getting kids those jobs and just
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: seeing kids that are kind of lost in the in
• 20:48
  Speaker 9: what would be traditional and find out something new for
• 20:50
  Speaker 9: them to do is is. Yeah, it's unbelievably rewarding, and
• 20:54
  Speaker 9: it's it's cool to see it happened and.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: It transfers over.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: I've had so many kids that just did want to
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: be at school, and then all of a sudden they
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: want to come to be in the kitchen, and then
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: they're there for the day and that, you know, teachers
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: coming on, what are you doing down there? Because all
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: of a sudden, you know so and so is here
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: every day and they're they're actually kind of participating.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: So it's Yeah, it transfers down the line.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I think I've had kids.
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: He's excited about stuff.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: They say.
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: They're kind of a wreck being in the back of
• 21:17
  Speaker 9: the classroom just eating raw. Let us think, and this
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: is the best let us.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I have ever had as you grew it. Yeah, we've
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: plugged it a couple times to tell people about your business.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Your side hustle, oh the side of the summertime.
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: Side Hustle is a mobile bar in Northern Michigan called Romannomi.
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: The know me is Northern Michigan, kind of a shortened
• 21:36
  Speaker 9: version of that. Yeah, we my wife and I and
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: another couple run it and we do a mobile bar.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Usually its weddings and other events. We've done everything from.
• 21:46
  Speaker 9: Baby showers to graduation parties. But yeah, it's kind of
• 21:49
  Speaker 9: a I think it was a bartending service, but we
• 21:51
  Speaker 9: show up with this cool renovated nineteen sixty nine trailer
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: returned into kind of a speakeasy looking vibe. And so
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: we meet with client. They just what they want and
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: uh we make the order for them. We'll pick it
• 22:03
  Speaker 9: up and then uh coming to their come to their event,
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: ready to go.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: So it's a fun fun side us on the stakes
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: care all that you make specialty cocktails.
• 22:11
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, we meet with the client and design the
• 22:13
  Speaker 9: cotail they want and and uh yeah, it's fun. It's
• 22:16
  Speaker 9: a lot of fun everybody and you and your wife man, yeah,
• 22:19
  Speaker 9: and another couple.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: But uh yeah, but everybody's happy to see it when
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: you show up. You know, you're one of those.
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: Everybody's happy to see the virol And.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Matt Dross is good at a party too.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: So I found my niche teacher by day. Uh, I
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: gotta do a couple of quick things. Well, I got
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: to run one by you. We get people that write
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: in ethics questions. Okay, oh first Dan, you're gonna speak
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: to this, you know about fisheries. Just a couple of
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: listener emails we got to take care of. We recently
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: had on people from Colossal Bioscience on about cloning the
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: sort of technical challenges and moral challenges of cloning wooly mammoths,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: and on that show, Callahan got to On that episode,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Ryan Callahan got to talk about what is the with
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: all the new work in genetics. In genetics, what might
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: be done about invasives? And a fisheries guy wrote in
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: talking about talking about this work to remove non native
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: brook trout in the Western US. Are you familiar with this,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you more. Why why super mail? Yeah? Explain that.
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: Explain that in Layman's terms, Well, genetics and invasives are
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: neither of the those are my area of expertise. But
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: the gist of it is, I think if you were
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: trying to eliminate invasive brick trout population, you would.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Somehow cox.
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: H hatchery broodstock to produce why why so homozigous male
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: brick trot right, that then you didn't swamp the system
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: with these why why brick trout? And so every so
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: the male determines the sex, right, so every offspring they're
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: going to have, it's going to be male, and so
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: you're just eliminating females from the population. It's kind of
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: how it works. But I mean, I've never been involved
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: with that sort of work. I don't really know the
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: details of it, but that's the gist of it.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: So hay Spur. Here's more in technical terminology. Hay Spur
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: fish hatchery just south of Haley, Idaho. The staff spawns
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: geno typic y Y chromosome males with genotypic y Y
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: chromosome females. Their offspring are one hundred percent y Y
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: chromosome males. You then stock them. They spawn with wild
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: female brook trout and spin off one hundred percent males
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: that also have that same y Y or y Y
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: being male. Right after several years, the entire stream population
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: becomes male or x y being male. Two.
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: So if you have wild type females, you're gonna they're
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: gonna have x y sex chromosomes, right, So you're you
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: would have some yy males and some x y males Like.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, he says, yeah, They're all springs will
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: then be why their offspring will then be one hundred
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: percent male. Yeah, because each offspring will consist of one
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: X chromosome from the mother and one Y chromosome from
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: the stocked Superman. Eventually they're all males. The males and
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: eventually giving up any excess to make xx females. Right,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: So yeah, does this standard reason that you'd want to
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: be fishing that spot? Would those males all get real
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: big or that doesn't matter. Oh, you're thinking that right
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: before the crash. It'd be great birkshop fishing. You know
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: what you're thinking.
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: You're thinking remember when the state of Michigan was stocking
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: super salmon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what you're thinking of.
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: So the idea there because they're they only spawned once, right,
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: So the thinking there was that these fish are never
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: going to spawn and die, They're just going to keep
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: growing indefinitely. But that wouldn't apply to you know, a
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: fish that spawns over and over again, like a brook trout.
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: It wouldn't interfere.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you remember being kids and they would have
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: the salmon derbys. Yeah, and they would go out and tag.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: They'd catch one salmon and tag it, and it was
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: like a millillion dollars, like a million dollar fish, and
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: just everybody's go fishing thinking they're going to catch that
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: sung bitch over again to get all that money. But
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: he didn't know where in the lake. It was. Okay,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: here are you guys ready for the Oh, here's here's one. No,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: there's no thing to say here. But we were recently
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: celebrating small town outdoor columnists. Who's who's ours growing up?
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Oh I don't know, Oh shit, because we're Chronicle ch
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Mark something. Our friend Pat Dirk, and he's sort of
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: the last, the dying breed of small town outdoor columnists.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: And the guy rode in to have a real gripe.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: He's got a real bone to pick with small town
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: outdoor columnists because he says that his childhood swimming and
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: fishing spot actually got blown up by an outdoor columnist.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: They were in a place under a bridge. They always
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: assume they weren't supposed to be there. They'd swim there
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: and catch a lot of nice brookies. Day guy shows
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: up and they assume he's there to yell at him,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: But it turns out he's some kind of journalist. Interviews
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: all the kids there, takes a picture of their big
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: stringer of brookies, runs a piece about how cute it
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: is that these kids have this fishing whole understaid such
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: and such bridge, And he goes back there and it's
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: full of people. Yeah, that's a pretty easy spot to find.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Never yet, and he never he never forgave his small
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: town outdoor. What state was that in Pennsylvania? Is it
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: so home? Maybe I'm wrong? Oh no, sorry Washington, d
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: C suburbs. Huh, rural area in Virginia which has been
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: consumed sorry, rural Virginia, which is since he was a kid,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: has been overtaken by DC suburbs and exurbs. Which is
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: a phrase. I don't think it has ever said in
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the show. Here's the moral one. Ready, this guy lives
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: in their neighborhood. The neighborhoods no h o a. All right,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: even though there's no hoa. His wife is the neighborhood president.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that means.
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: He had seven chickens self appointed.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Unless he wrote that's when he said
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: we live in a neighborhood with no hoa, he meant
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: to say we live in a neighborhood with an with
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: an h o a, because then he says, my wife
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: is actually the president the US. Is it Kamala Harris?
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Is this from the future. It's Kamala Harris. The Polsters, Uh,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: we're wrong. So he's got seven chickens, all get killed? Okay,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: puts out a trail cam's a fox. He gets himself
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: a he's calling it a humane trap, meaning he's got
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: a live trap, captures the fox. He in his mind
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: is the thing to do now is to kill the fox.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: His wife and daughter having none of it, he drives
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the fox five miles down the road and lets it loose.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Against this better judgment. The neighborhood is now an uproar
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: because it turns out they all like that fox. He's
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: got a couple of questions. Is the thing going to
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: turn up back here anyway? Probably five miles? And who's
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: right people that want to see a fox or people
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: that want to have chickens.
• 30:41
  Speaker 8: I think it's coming right back. You ain't gonna get
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: it to go on that trap the second time. I'm surprised.
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: I'm really surprised he got to go on that trap
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: the first time. There's probably used to eating people's dog food,
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: and he was surprised.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: He bathed it with tuna fish. You're surprised he got
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: the trap five miles Now, that's not gonna do it.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: When I worked for the parks, we had a problem
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: fox out there that was to the point where it
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: was getting in everything. It was It actually even.
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: Pulled a bottle out of a baby stroller.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: It was aggressive.
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: Serious. Yeah, and we captured that thing.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: We just threw a blanket over it and threw it
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: in the garbage can and drove it thirteen miles to
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: the south end of the island.
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: And that thing was back the next day.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, beat you guys home.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, to god, he was right back. I mean because
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: it was very distinct. He knew, he knew where it
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: was at.
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: You know, we used to have a dog that our
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: dad tried to give away a few times. It would
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: always come back.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: You know. We named that dog. You know that dog's
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: name Kala. Oh that's right. Yeah, it was some like
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: word for leader. And the dog liked to play fat.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember these details. That dog liked to
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: play fetch so much it would get green tomatoes out
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: of the garden. It was like a never ending supply
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: of balls, which my dad hated it. Well.
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: Part of the reason we wanted to get rid of
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: it is because I ate the right to right tomatoes
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: just destroyed tomatoes.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if I remember this right, he wound up bringing
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: it like you know, your dad normally brings a dog
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: to a farm. That means he killed it, and that
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: happened with other pets, I'm sure. Oh yeah, but he
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: brought it to a farm literally, And if I remember right,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: we were eating dinner one night and all of a sudden,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: there's that dog comes by out the tomato in his mouth,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: if I remember right, And that's something like a kayla.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: The leader had come home.
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: Well, getting back to that fox, that fellow can tell
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: his neighbors not to worry. Uh, they haven't seen the
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: last of that fox. But he should tell his other
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: chickens to worry. He might just want to give himself
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: a chicken hut.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but what he said he likes about He likes
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: having him run around, so it makes him feel like
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: he lives on a farm. And he also mentioned that
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: they spent a lot of time in his neighbor's yard.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Nothing so this might be a bad neighbor. Nothing more
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: farmer than a fox get in your chicken. So that's
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: true that uh he was baiting with tune official. Here's
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: a this is the here's the thing that guy wrote
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: in This guy says, Hey, guys, came across your podcast
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: started at episode one and I've worked my way up
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: to episode two ninety four and whenever wherever he's at.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Right now, we're spending a lot of time on skunk essence,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: covering skunk essence. You're talking about a guy, Oh, I
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: know what we're talking about. A couple of people rolled
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: in where they've used. I was saying one day that
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: if I really wanted to get someone, Remember we were
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: trying to me and Sath, we were trying to we're
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: trying to harvest skunk essence from skunks. I was saying,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: if I really wanted to get someone, I would take
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: that syringe. We're harvesting them with a syringe, and I
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: would just reach into their car and inject their pulse upholstery.
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: Oh my god.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, find it. You'd never find it, you'd never
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: find the culprit, you'd never realize what I had done.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Uh so, uh so he's listening to this. There's a
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: guy he there's a guy he knows that went through
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: this really bad divorce, loses the house to the wife,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: loses his house to his wife, pulled out all the receptacles,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: electrical receptacles in the house, the junction boxes, and put
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: open cans of tuna in the holes, and then sealed
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: them back up, So all the best money, I'm king
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: know nothing more than well.
• 34:57
  Speaker 10: Uh So, man should right back in with the follow up.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, follow up on that. Yeah, someone eventually tore out
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: the drywall and found the rotten tuna. Mm hmm. I
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: wonder if they got in trouble. I'm guessing that the
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: court would not look fondly on that, which leads me
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: to and we're gonna return to our current discussion. Uh So.
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about what, like you guys come
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: here every year, but you've been here how many years?
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Fifteen?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Okay? Layout for me? How you you come home with
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: some fish? We call it a cut. You get a cut.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Let's we should talk about that first. We fish like communists.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: It's cold, it's rainy, there's vodka on the shelf. We're
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: like communists, where all the activities we engage in everything
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: gets pooled, collectivized, collectivized, meaning if even if you're on
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: a work detail, if you got to work, like if
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: you got you if let's say for some day you
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: had to do your normal job for a day, like
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: catch up on emails, or you were like fixing something
• 37:24
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• 37:27
  Speaker 1: you had to make the dock so it wasn't a
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: death trap and put some tar paper down whatever. So
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: if people can get a grip on a wet, wooden,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: slimy dock, that doesn't pull you out. And different activities
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: could be like doing shellfish, going for shellfish. It could
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: be different kind of fishing things, whatever, and everything gets
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: pulled into a freezer, and then on breakup day everything
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: is categorized. There's now a suitcase, the whole piece of papers.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Official record of catch.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, official record of catch. It's in a briefcase, and
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: there's a tally made and the tally would be how
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: many other packages of whatever? And it gets divided out.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: The way we kind of do it is adult adult angler.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: We haven't rolled kids. Kids don't get their own catch.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: A kids take goes into the adult angler take. The
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: adult angler take is called a cut. And so that's
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: how we divide out. How do you walk me through
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: your Let's go around the table here. We're gonna skip Seth.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: He's a newcomer to the cove, and instead of answering
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: this question, Seth is gonna give us an update on
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the A frame, which has had a dramatic Yeah, I
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: mean a dramatic recovery. Looking good in there, Yeah.
• 38:48
  Speaker 10: Ongoing, ongoing recovering right now as we speak in recovery.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your how do you what's your take? Like?
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: What are the things you like to make with your cut? Like?
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: How do you think of your cut? You give it
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: all away? Do you slowly eat it? What? Do you do.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: We usually we usually so it's just me and my wife.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: We don't any kids, so we'll usually kind of stretch
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: it out over the year, usually host to host people,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: cook for folks, but a lot of it becomes kind
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: of just like a protein staple in our house because
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: my wife doesn't eat meat as you know, red meat,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: red meat.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: She eats fish, eats.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Fish, and so it just we kind of stretch it
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: out really through the year.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: So the moose meat I gave you, she's not eating that.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: That's your own private I'm working my way through that
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: fifty pounds, and that's.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Your own private Stashy with the fish, he's into.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Fish, he's into and uh, yeah, it's made me a
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: better It's made me a better cook in the kitchen,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: you know. I mean, it helps being buddies with all
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: you guys, but it's a it's.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: It's made me.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: I'm more creative than I than I used to be.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: What are some of the staples.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Well, some of the things that I've I tried to
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: emulate out of here. I've I've done some of that
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: seafood curry.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Have you done the cod?
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: I have not? Yeah, I have done the I've done
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: the seafood enchilada yep. And uh. And what I want
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: this year?
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I want to do.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: I want to I want to dial in my chowder game,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: my seafood chowder game. I haven't really I haven't really
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: dabbled too much in that. Yeah, we just kind of
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: stretched out. But also like a lot of hosting, I mean,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: people people love it when you know you cook cook
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: a bunch of halibit that you caught or a part
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: of catching them, right, There's just a certain charm in
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: that that people just really love. So that's how we
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: What was your uh, what's your highlight from this year?
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: Uh?
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Mechanically putting together that switch.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I need to explain this a little bit. We have
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: a pot polar and there's a junction box for the switch,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: and because it's the saltwater marine environment, they assemble the
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: wiring and then they inject that box with silicons like
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: fill it. So when you open it up, you're looking
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: into what looks like a bar of soap yep, yep.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: And contained within that bar of soap when you get
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: all that picked out of there is the junction. And
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: then we redid it and repacked.
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: It and it worked yeah, it's mechanically that and then
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: I guess fishing, you know, getting into the into the
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: Pacific cod uh, the last couple of days, that's that's
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: the hottest ocean fishing I've ever been a part of.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was I was going to touch on that
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: because yesterday when Danny and I were out diving around,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I was telling the kids, the boys about how the Plains,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of the planes tribes would have a thing
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: called a year. They had their own word for it,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: a year count or something like that, and it would
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: take a buffalo hide and the band would they would
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: mark the most notable things from any year. And I think,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, they would do it in a
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: concentric a concentric circle. And when you look at these
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: annual counts, like you'll you'll see smallpox epidemics, you'll also
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: see something so it'd be like a person with spots
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: on them. Some of these annual counts have like, uh,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: you know, you'd be like, oh that this is like
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: an early encounter with people that had firearms, early encounter
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: with white people. And also just like kind of like
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: weird things like I remember one of them had one
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: of them was like a year that someone had I
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: found mistaken. It was like a year that it seemed
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: like a year that a bunch of buffalo got struck
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: by lightning. Was like the year that's what happened that year.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: And I was saying, I wish from the start we
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: had made one of those on a big hal of
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: it hide. That would have been an account yep, right.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: And if I was in the most notable thing every year,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I think it'd be finding like one year would have
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: been finding what turned into like a dramatic shrimp spot,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: a profound shrimp spot. This year I would perhaps put
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: the death of that shrimp spot, but I would probably
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: this year. Really what would went out in my mind
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: this year was to be a cod, a big peacod,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: because the year we bought this, we caught a giant.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Remember that we didn't know what the hell we're doing.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: One of the first things we caught was a huge,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: probably a nine pound cod. I got a picture, you're
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: all glassy eyed standing by that old not that sync
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: but the previous thing, holding that big ass cod in
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: your mechanic suit. Yeah, and you'd get them and then
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: you just didn't. They're gone, I mean gone for what
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: eight ten years.
• 43:53
  Speaker 8: It was the twenty fourteen marine heatwave. They just disappeared.
• 43:57
  Speaker 8: I mean, I think there's like complete reproductive failure and
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: presumably a lot of the older ones died off, because yeah,
• 44:02
  Speaker 8: there was what until last nine years. Until last year,
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: most years we didn't catch a cod. We had three
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: boats out there fishing every day and we would catch not.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: A cod, yep, and then a few not it was
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: three springs to go started getting dinks and I don't know,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: there's I'm sure there's fish moving and all that, sure,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: but this year, man, it's just like cod galore and yeah,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: and they're not.
• 44:37
  Speaker 8: They they seem big compared to what we've caught the
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: last couple of years, but they're they're not big cod yet.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: No, but they're keep like yeah keeper fish, yeah, yeah,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: but no, they're not they're not like ten pounders.
• 44:48
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they're certainly worth playing, but I mean they get
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: bigger three four or five.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Pounds, yeah, gorging on krill and herring. So I think
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: there's harring eating krill. Yeah you don't. I just saw
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: that kroll when we were diving yesterday. It's clouds of Yeah, Matt,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: you caught herring and then later he caught a cod
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: that regurgitated a herring and got it. Oh, you caught
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: a cod that regurgitated a still live hairing. But just
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: a ton of cod. And and like I was saying earlier,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: it's just interesting to get like such a snapshot because
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: we'll come and fish the same general area at the
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: same general time over the course of a long time,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: and you see these things come in, things come out,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: you know, and be like, like, shrimp were fantastic and
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: right now shrimp just sucks, right, Crabs have highs and lows.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: But the cod thing has been is the watching the
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: cod be here, be gone, be back makes the shrimp
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: thing less depressing because you picture well may you know,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: you like normally in psychologically i'd be like, oh, it's over,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: you know, but you get a it's like probably something
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: will happen and all of a sudden it'll be great
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: shrimping again. Maybe.
• 46:03
  Speaker 9: And when those cod we're all catching, like they're they're
• 46:06
  Speaker 9: various sizes. It's not like there's like one growth class
• 46:09
  Speaker 9: that's taken over, yeah, or catch the small ones on
• 46:11
  Speaker 9: up to yeah, we've.
• 46:12
  Speaker 10: Gotten all like ten inches up to yeah, like twenty
• 46:16
  Speaker 10: eight inches.
• 46:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah, like big ones. So it would seem that this would,
• 46:18
  Speaker 9: you know, barring anything happening, this would last for a while.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Seth told me yesterday he's actually glad his house
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: got hit by a large tree.
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, believe it or not.
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: Best thing ever happened to me.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it just exposed all the problems that needed fixed.
• 46:36
  Speaker 10: And if it didn't do that, we'd be kind of
• 46:38
  Speaker 10: chipping away at that slowly forever.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: We're observing yesterday that Seth bought his A frame at
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: a very important point in time for that a frame. Yes,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: you know when you see a house that's just falling
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: down and it's just no, like it's beyond repair. Yeah,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: if you had waited a year, your A frame would
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: have become a non salable item. Yeah. No, just especially
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: when that tree fell on it. Yeah, because he bought
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: his A frame. And then the porch. I bring us
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: up all the time, the porch. How high is that
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: porch off the ground? Thirteen feet? Noah, yeah, maybe eleven
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: to twelve feet off the ground.
• 47:18
  Speaker 10: Well, I was sitting there last night and I noticed
• 47:20
  Speaker 10: how like our porch basically is like level with your
• 47:23
  Speaker 10: roof over here.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: And that porch one day actually fell off. Yep, that
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: was the first.
• 47:32
  Speaker 10: That was the first phone call I got from you
• 47:34
  Speaker 10: with bad news about the place.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: You know, there's been several Then a tree fell on
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: it and just stove it to den. Yeah. And if
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: you hadn't bought it, it would be you'd look over there
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: and be like it'd just be another rotten building in Alaska.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: But you bought it just in time. It was like
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: it was like a heart attack victim, you know what
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I mean. And right when you hit them with those electrocuters,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Zapp's back the life that was your purchase. Fibulators. Yeah,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: your purchase defibrillated that house. Yep. Now we got them
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: back on a good diet. He's doing all right. Brand
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: new porch, brand new porch front and back.
• 48:20
  Speaker 10: Well, the first thing that happens after we bought the place,
• 48:23
  Speaker 10: the porch fell off. Then we had our buddy Dustin
• 48:27
  Speaker 10: replace pilings. And I think that's what really saved our
• 48:30
  Speaker 10: ass when the tree hit the place.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, because it would just.
• 48:34
  Speaker 10: Because it would have just yeah, the pilings that were
• 48:37
  Speaker 10: under it, which there's still a bunch that needs replace,
• 48:39
  Speaker 10: but like the main ones that were bad all got
• 48:43
  Speaker 10: replaced and they're sitting on these giant crease pilings.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Now that's what the porch is on too.
• 48:49
  Speaker 10: So but yeah, so we did that and then the
• 48:52
  Speaker 10: tree hit and then we basically rebuilt dustin our buddy
• 48:58
  Speaker 10: dust and also rebuilt and and some other guys he
• 49:01
  Speaker 10: had some help, some other guys help. But yeah, front
• 49:05
  Speaker 10: and back wall on the A frame, replaced a bunch
• 49:08
  Speaker 10: of well all the all the choices that got smashed
• 49:12
  Speaker 10: up when the tree hit.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Fixed that. And then.
• 49:17
  Speaker 10: We had some skylights in there that were leaking. It's like, no,
• 49:21
  Speaker 10: never skylights leaking Montana hot and dry. Why would you
• 49:28
  Speaker 10: put him in a place in southeast Alaska? But yeah, replaced, God,
• 49:32
  Speaker 10: those replaced and then uh yeah.
• 49:37
  Speaker 8: Man, when I when I went in when that tree
• 49:39
  Speaker 8: fell out, you know, I was here. Yeah, I went
• 49:42
  Speaker 8: up first starters. I was cutting through your lot, you know,
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: going up deer hunting, and I looked and I'm like, funk,
• 49:50
  Speaker 8: that don't look right.
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: I remember that there.
• 49:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah, why would Seth put a tree in this house?
• 49:58
  Speaker 8: And I was like, I better better into that on
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: the way home, you know. So I went out hunted
• 50:03
  Speaker 8: for the morning and came back. Oh, ship, that is
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: that is what I was thinking it was you know, yeah,
• 50:09
  Speaker 8: I sent you that text.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe I sent Steve, I can't remember. But I went
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: up in.
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: When I went up in there, you know you had
• 50:16
  Speaker 8: that bed up in your loft. Yeah, because you didn't
• 50:19
  Speaker 8: see the tree when it was there. No, no, I
• 50:21
  Speaker 8: got it out of there. Yeah, there's that. If somebody
• 50:25
  Speaker 8: was in that bed, they would have been fine. But
• 50:28
  Speaker 8: that fucking trunk. I mean it was a big hemlock
• 50:31
  Speaker 8: right diameter of that I don't know, two feet diameter
• 50:34
  Speaker 8: in that trunk.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: It was about a foot off of that bed. I
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: asked Seth if it would have killed him?
• 50:43
  Speaker 8: If I can't even imagine if you're late being in
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: that bed, you couldn't have sat up.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you wouldn't have been touched the way. Bring me
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: a coffee. But yeah, I know.
• 51:00
  Speaker 10: My my brother in law, Bob, who owns the place
• 51:03
  Speaker 10: with us, he's over there right now putting up siding.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: So you know, the cutest thing I think about it
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: is that your dad likes coming up so it kind
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: of like brings your family all nice.
• 51:11
  Speaker 10: Oh yeah, yeah, my dad loves coming up here. It's
• 51:13
  Speaker 10: all he talks about every time I talked him on
• 51:15
  Speaker 10: the phone. He's like, I can't wait for life.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Literally, like just like this.
• 51:20
  Speaker 10: When he leaves, when he leaves here, or when we
• 51:23
  Speaker 10: leave here, whatever in a few a week or whatever.
• 51:27
  Speaker 10: I guarantee you the next phone call he'll be like,
• 51:29
  Speaker 10: can't wait for Laska next year. That's yeah, he loves it.
• 51:34
  Speaker 10: But yeah, it's it's when we leave. By the time
• 51:37
  Speaker 10: we leave, it's going to be a fully functional, rebuilt
• 51:41
  Speaker 10: cabin with siding and everything.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, congratulations, thanks, feels good. Over the years, I've said,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: over the years has been a lot of people, a
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: lot of people that talked about maybe buying that a
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: frame and they would go in there and that would
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: usually end the conversation. Yeah, you're tougher. Name work. Yeah,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: you were tougher. You had more vision and tougherness. Yep, yeah,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: it was more toughness. Yeah, it was something I didn't
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: didn't want to pass up.
• 52:09
  Speaker 10: You.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Uh, Danny, you eat a hugely heavy seafood diet, and
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: you because you live in a last you get a
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: lot of different Uh, this isn't your only seafood run
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: because you guys are all kind of salmon.
• 52:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I fished a lot of salmon around home and
• 52:24
  Speaker 8: then Yeah, I have a few friends with boats that
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: I get out on the ocean waters up in South Central.
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: You know how the wittier homer belts so takes the
• 52:37
  Speaker 8: TIXX pressure off.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Do you remember, Uh, we used to like cheese and chongs.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Next movie and somehow his cousin shows up, one of
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: those guys. His cousin shows up. Remember those army Duffel bags. Yea,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: his cousin shows up with the army, those giant army
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Duffel bags full of bud. Yeah, and uh, someone asks
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: him what he's gonna do with it all, and he
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: says he's gonna smoke some, party with some and sell some.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Give weird a joke. So whenever we caught a lot
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: of fish, you remember we smoke some party with someone
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: selling and the selling not so much and they're selling
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: not at all, but uh anymore, but you definitely smoke something,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: party with some.
• 53:27
  Speaker 9: I thought it was smoke some part of some and
• 53:29
  Speaker 9: give some to your friends.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Us smoke some party some, give some to your friends.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Well you do with all your fish? Uh, you guys
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: still dip net and stuff like that.
• 53:44
  Speaker 8: Then yeah, yeah, I'm kind of missing that right now.
• 53:47
  Speaker 8: Between uh yeah, being down here and just feel work
• 53:51
  Speaker 8: for my job and stuff. So yeah, I don't. I
• 53:54
  Speaker 8: don't have a salmon plan this year. I need to
• 53:56
  Speaker 8: figure something out when I get back home to get
• 53:58
  Speaker 8: some salmon in the freezer because they're pretty scarce around
• 54:01
  Speaker 8: here at this moment. But yeah, I already did some halibit.
• 54:06
  Speaker 8: I already have a bunch of halibit in cod in
• 54:08
  Speaker 8: the freezer. So how do you sequence it out?
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Because I find that, Sam and you gotta get like
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I get, there's certain stuff I just eat or give
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: away right away, Like a salmon, you either gotta do
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: something with it, like in a year. It's not fun.
• 54:22
  Speaker 8: Nope, Nope. I like to have all that gone by
• 54:25
  Speaker 8: next spring. Oh and all this cod that we're getting,
• 54:29
  Speaker 8: I mean, that's gotta be gone in the next I
• 54:32
  Speaker 8: don't know, six months.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Is about this limit on that in your freezer?
• 54:35
  Speaker 8: It's a leather yeah yeah, but halibut, man, you can
• 54:38
  Speaker 8: let that alib it sit for a couple of years
• 54:40
  Speaker 8: and hardly tell the difference.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: You know what. I don't know if you remember the story,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: you and me were up here, and it was when
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: I was staying in your guest house and we were
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: up here and we were like bringing a bunch of
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: halibit home. I mean, for some reason put it into
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: a dry bag, yeah, a rubberized dry bag, and then
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know what how we did with it, brought
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: it home, all of our frozen hal but in a
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: rubber dry bag in a cooler or something. Back to anchor.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: You were an an and uh, time goes by and
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: that your gear room just it's so like you can't
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: It's one of those you know, like when you hear
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: there's certain noises, like when you hear a turkey going right,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: or when you hear a blue grouse doing his noise,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Like you know it's there, but you can't tell what direction.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: It was a smell that it was like, it was
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: a smell. It was like a turkey drummond. You know
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: it's there, but you can't. It's hard to pinpoint the direction.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: And you just come in the house and you'd be
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: like what, Yeah, my gear room was also my boiler room,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: so that's really warm. We narrow in on it's something
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: in the gear room. Yeah, and we systematically emptied out
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this. We systematically emptied out
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: the gear room yeah, No, couldn't figure out what had
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: died there. We thought something died there. We didn't know
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: what emptied out the gear room. Put everything back. The
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: smell gets worse the second time. We do, like a
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: more thorough examination. Realized that, like in that rubber dry bag,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: when someone emptied out the rubber dry bag, they left
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: one pack of a halibit in that rubber dry bag,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: and that's what was the culprit. And so when you're
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: searching the room, you just pick up a dry bag
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't weigh Yeah, and an extra that was
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: a nasty pack of halibit. Man.
• 56:53
  Speaker 10: Speaking of noises where you can't tell where they're coming from,
• 56:56
  Speaker 10: we're over here fishing salmon yesterday and we get there's
• 57:00
  Speaker 10: like sam and jumping all over the place closer to
• 57:02
  Speaker 10: the bank or back of there. So we kind of
• 57:04
  Speaker 10: like slowly put over there, shut the engine off. And
• 57:06
  Speaker 10: you can hear a bear up in the woods snapping
• 57:09
  Speaker 10: its jaws at us. Oh, just like popping them, you know,
• 57:12
  Speaker 10: like the town they make when they're popping their jaws.
• 57:14
  Speaker 10: Just up there, popping its jaws like crazy.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: That's cool. Couldn't see it, but you could hear it.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Like that distinct sound. Yeah, because otherwise I would say
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: in my year count blanket. Another option here would be
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: the year of no bears. There's a soal of two
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: cubs that's hanging it out over here. Oh okay, because
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: they're not like running around trying.
• 57:33
  Speaker 10: To no in the spring when we're hearing the spring
• 57:36
  Speaker 10: bear hunting. They were everywhere just because they come to
• 57:39
  Speaker 10: the covid come to covide A, wait them.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they know it's a safe place. Yeah, No one's
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: gonna get them, all right.
• 57:46
  Speaker 8: There's a story I always tell about my kids being
• 57:49
  Speaker 8: out flipping the rocks and just playing in the inner
• 57:51
  Speaker 8: title zone out here, and I came out on this
• 57:54
  Speaker 8: is well, yeah, I think we're getting a little break
• 57:56
  Speaker 8: from the bears. The last couple of years it just
• 57:58
  Speaker 8: seemed to be less abundant. But yeah, when they used
• 57:59
  Speaker 8: to always be hanging around on the beach. I remember
• 58:01
  Speaker 8: walking on this porch and my kids were young man
• 58:05
  Speaker 8: like maybe three and five or something like that, and
• 58:07
  Speaker 8: they're out there playing in the flats and I said, hey, guys,
• 58:13
  Speaker 8: just letting you know it was a bear behind you,
• 58:15
  Speaker 8: And they didn't even turn around to look at it.
• 58:19
  Speaker 8: Doing what they were doing like they're just so used
• 58:21
  Speaker 8: to it.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: I got a picture in one of my kids on
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: a rope swing that I took that that was video
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: like rope basically rope swinging like out over. And I
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: got another one of my older boy in his underwear
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: shooting a slingshot at one it's like up in the
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: like up by the table there, you know.
• 58:40
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, Matt DROs just just gave me a photo
• 58:43
  Speaker 8: that I did not know existed of me hitting a
• 58:45
  Speaker 8: bear with a rock that was causing us some troubles.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: All right, Matt, so uh your cut. We'll give me
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: your most memorable Danny got to your most memorable things
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: from this year?
• 58:56
  Speaker 8: How you'll remember the year? Yeah, I guess that would be. Yeah,
• 59:01
  Speaker 8: get peacod coming back? Oh in that great data link
• 59:05
  Speaker 8: cod fishing with with fits and was the boat with us?
• 59:11
  Speaker 8: Uh Rosemary? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's just
• 59:18
  Speaker 8: the link hod bite was just on and maybe I
• 59:20
  Speaker 8: don't know if the tide was moving real good and
• 59:22
  Speaker 8: we just timed it right.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: And yeah, a bunch of duskies, a bunch of silver rays.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was some pretty intense fishing, man. That's great.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: It was one of the things you learned over the
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: years of going to fishing the same thing all the time,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: is uh, you learned like some general trends and rules
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: and stuff, but we've accumulated a ton of you know,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: but you also learned there's just things you can't explain
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: like that. You remember one time seth in the spring.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: We were on a particular feature over by where we
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: set trimp pot sometimes and dropped out was like silver
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: grays and duskies and stuff. I've been back to three
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: times since nothing happens. It's like some current thing, some
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: food thing, and you'll never replicate it. Yeah, you know,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: and you can go out and yeah, I don't know
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: the moodiness of fish man. Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 8: Another one of those changes was, you know, more long term,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 8: was just the disappearance of those twenty arm starfish. You know,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 8: every shrimp pot used to have one or two of
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 8: those in it, and then that blight came through and
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 8: all the star sea stars died off. And I mean,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 8: I haven't seen one of those things in years, and
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 8: I don't know if it's a coincidence or not. But
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 8: then octopus got real abundant for a while or right
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 8: after the seastars died off.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 8: And then you know, yeah, we had a few years
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 8: where it wouldn't I mean most most years, I would say,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 8: you know, in a week of hardcore shrimp and you
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 8: might get an octopus. And then there was a year
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 8: where we get like one or two a day, or
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 8: for a few years.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: You remember Ron Layton, you'd pull every shrimp pot to
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: have a bunch of those on it in it and
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Ron Layton would make you put them on a bucket. Yeah,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: so he could move him out of his So you're
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: somehow like you're somehow going to get him out of
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: the areas Like I don't know, we saw sixty today,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: you think that's the only sixty dollars, But yeah, those
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: things aren't around anymore. That's another big, huge change over time.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 8: And and then the yeah, I don't know, the octopus
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 8: seem at least by you know, from our trapping less
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 8: abundant in the last couple of years.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: And they only said he's getting out pus almost every day.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: Oh really, really where he's trimping, he cleans them or
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: pitches him, pitches him. Does he do because he thinks
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: they're so smart? Because he doesn't want to deal with him.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 10: Well, when I was talking to him, I was like,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 10: I was like, oh, I love eating those things, and
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 10: he's like really, and I was like yeah. He's like, well,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 10: if I get one, I'll bring it to you.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: Okay. So not because they're so smart. I think he
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: just doesn't because a lot of people quit because they're smart. Yeah,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: we got hot onto that documentary. But yeahs teacher bestly
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: never happened to octopuses. But like I said, I've said
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: it before, I don't know that everything else is that dumb.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Nobody's befriended the halibate.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Yet if you went ahong all the halb it, you
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: might wind up being not one to eat them either.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: That it might be a substitute teacher, my teacher. So
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Matt hit me with your most memorable for the year.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 9: I was just trying to think there's been so many,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 9: Like I want to someone that has just been a
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 9: smooth year, like like mechanical, like weatherwise, unbelievable.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: We got one mystery. One mechanical mystery is uh, the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: one of the motors not charging it's bat and it's
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: not the charging fids but minor.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but the cod was it's crazy. I mean, the
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 9: three of us are out and there was a point
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 9: where we had triple headers numerous times you wouldn't put
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 9: down without bringing up a fish. And that's just you know, yeah,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 9: that's pretty pretty amazing.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Fishion just steady this year.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 8: Usually it's like you got one or two days that
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 8: where you bringing ninety percent of the catch when it's
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 8: just odd, you know. And this year it was just
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 8: kind of every.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 9: Day was we came in yesterday with I don't know
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 9: three hal of it and probably ten cod, and we're like, man, yeah, I.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: Mean any other year we'd have been oh man, what
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: we got. It was just it was crazy.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: There's a there's a thing from up here we find
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: is there's like a running joke that if you're if
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: someone's coming up, oh yeah, yeah, if you're getting if
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: you're coming up in a few days, the best thing
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: you could hear is that the fishing sucks. Before I
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: came up, I didn't want to text anybody. I did
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: not want to hear because, like the joke is, if
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: the fishing's good in a couple of days, it won't
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: be right. And so you want to make sure that
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: right before like three days before you show up, you
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: want to hear that it's a miserable bite and then
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: you're like, well, mathematically that means it's gonna be hot
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: when I get there, because it comes in like days
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: on days off days, and it's not it's not it's
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: not lunar, it's not a thirty day roll. It's a
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: much it's like a smaller role, and no one's been
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: able to identify it. I think if we had over
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: time been really meticulous about moon phase, moon phase, slash,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: tide swing, I don't know what, I don't know what
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: all inputs would you put in the wind whatever. If
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: we had made some kind of chart, and it could
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: be as simple as like you fill in five or
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: six variables and then rate the days fishing on a
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: one to ten or something, you might start putting together
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: what it is. But it's not sun, and it's not
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: high wind, low wind. It's not all those things that
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: you remember the day by. It's like it's like the
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: things that you it's you knows the things you don't remember.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 9: Well, right, well, yesterday we had that day that we're fishing,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 9: we had that that current was ripping and then for
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 9: like five minutes it stopped and everything was straight down
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 9: and then I looked into something huge.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: It got off and then it started ripping again and
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: it just changed everything. Bathing could have been coming by. Yeah,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: energy for attack, that's what that was. No, it's so
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: much mystery. Oh and then you guys for the first
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: time another thing that like we always know one was around.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Who saw the salmon shark?
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: It was last last year. That was last year, you.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Know, I you had to lay eyes on one.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: It was the classic kind of shark fin and the
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: tail tip of the tail just kind of going by
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: like Jaws. It was probably what.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: We just kind of happened to turn around.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 9: We all saw it like just swimming by, heading towards
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 9: you guys.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: She was all hot. Another thing about like freak deals.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: So seeing the salmon shark like all that time, and
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: then you look at there was many many years there
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: was never a sea otter. Yeah, fifteen years of no
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: sea otters, and then now there's the occasional seaatter sighting.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: The neighbor is out one day and they have like
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: a what in the world is that? And it was
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: a I mean it looked like a several hundred pound
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: oceanic sunfish. Yeah, oh, coming along the surface and just
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: kind of went right under their boat. And then he
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: took a cell phone video and that fish. He took
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: a cell phone video as it's going under the boat,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: and that fish just keeps coming and coming and coming
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: and coming as it goes by on to the boat.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: I think they've never seen another one. I think that
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: was twenty fourteen marine heat wave. It was that summer. Yeah, yep, yeah, yeah,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: just like the one offs, you know, the one off
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: weird things.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 10: That's what I love about this place. It's like you'd
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 10: never know what you're going to see up here, really, you.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Never you never know what you're never gonna see again.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and every year it's like something different you see
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 10: or catcher.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: It's cool. Any most memorable whatever commentary around.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: Oh you know where this is gone.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: You're a new griddle. So if you were making a
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: year count, your year count would be your giant Riddle pancakes.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: So like, okay, griddle after grill.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: And has in our circle, how many years you've been here?
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Sixteenth straight sixteen straight years? He because he deals not
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: only in except food of exceptional quality, but he deals
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: in food of exceptional quantity. And every year his gift
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: to our friend circle is it. He makes the shopping list,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: comes in in the morning, turns on coffee at six,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: makes a breakfast like a good breakfast, facilitates the making
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: of lunch, and then at night cooks usually fresh seafood,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: sometimes the stuff we bring from home. Cooks everybody a huge,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: high quality dinner. They just run through the list of
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: meals we had. Yeah, like seafood we had because the
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: first night here we hadn't caught nothing yet, so we had,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: uh marin earra and meatballs left. Or for my birthday party,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: the meat the bag of meat was left. Or for
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: my birthday party. Uh chowder, No, you haven't done chowder
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: yet yet. Seafood enchiladas, cod like fried Coddle's law, curry
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: seafood curry. Uh what else?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: Oh, welled salmon, that whole slash king salmon on his
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: new thing hits some tacos fish tacos.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Anyways, he normally has the work in a ton of
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: little pans set on a little stove, but this year
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: he bought a giant outdoor griddle and now can just.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: Like, oh, hang with high life, quality of life up here.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: It's just dramatically because I can do it all at once.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: And you can hang out getting it. Yeah, that's a
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: question to the kid.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: A lot of times I'm in here as the kids
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: are getting a fire going on a seventy degree day,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: over four burners in it of it and they're just dripping.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: So now be outside hanging out.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you should have a picture of Andy stand over
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 9: there and he's got that kind of wide I look
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 9: on his face.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Just wiping this round. Yeah, we know. I was gonna
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: tell you guys, there's enough to do that anything we're
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: talking about. But you know how I keep wanting to
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: tell people about this. Uh, you guys know what geo
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: cashes are. You know what everybody does? A geocash uses
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: an animal can. Yeah, because it's like real Comedy's an
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: army animal can for geocash. So my kids have just
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: found not even using GPS, they somehow have found two geocachhes.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: They found one near when we hunt Spring Turkey and Wisconsin,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: we always go. Bubby Dog always takes this cheese place
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: down the road. It makes cheese car Valley cheese. We
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: going down here to get kurds and they're like running
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: around the woods there and they find an ammal can
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: and they opened up and full of all the garbage.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: It's in a geocash thing, including a notepad. There's a
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: nurse spot where we can't. They just happen to find
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: a geocache can, and they always putting junk in there
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: and taking it out. So my boy, my little boy
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: has only ever seen an army can in context of
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: a geocash. Two times I have heard him accuse people
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: of having stole a geoc cash box because they have
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: in their possession an army.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: He took the he took the geo cash box.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, man, those have always been around,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: you know. No, it's a geocash box.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: Got uh?
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: And then how do you handle your fish and what
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: your uh? When you go home?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: You make the same things there, uh, you know, the
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: day to day pull out fish and make for myself.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: But uh, you know, I tend to find myself in
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: social situations with a lot of people looking to have
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: a good time. And much like this place, I tend
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: to find myself cooking a bunch. So I party with it,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: you know, smoke some, I smoke some party with some.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: No, I share it around for sure, I give.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: I'll give a fair bit away too, you know, because
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 5: I do catch a little bit of fish where I'm
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 5: at as well.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: So my fir when I go home, that one of
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: my first things when I go home is I give
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: fish to my neighbors, meaning like the houses by my house.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so anytime there's there's a big get together, Yeah,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: it's pretty fun to be able to show up with
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: a lot of fresh fish or fresh caught fish and
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: share it around. That's kind of the best part. Tell
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: the stories as you go, you know. But yeah, it
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  Speaker 5: lasts me the whole you know, especially being up here
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  Speaker 5: for a couple of weeks to come home with a
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  Speaker 5: fair bit it'll it'll last the whole year. I think
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: I got a few packs from last year that I'm
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  Speaker 5: just gonna get through right as I get home and
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  Speaker 5: maybe change the date and pass those out.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you, let me tell you hot to.
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  Speaker 1: I don't date anything anymore because when you date it,
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  Speaker 1: it starts people start being prejudiced against it, even when
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: I'm out of town. So if I'm out of town
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  Speaker 1: right and someone at home, they're like, once you put
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: the dates on there, they're wondering about it.
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  Speaker 6: You're locked in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, oh, that's from. I don't put any
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  Speaker 1: date on anything, man, I when I look, I know
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  Speaker 1: when it's from, because like, oh that's from. I know,
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  Speaker 1: but no one needs to know. And when I give
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: someone a pack it of something, I don't need them
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: wondering about it. Yeah, you know what I mean, because
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: like a piece of deer meat. I mean, this is
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: a controversial statement. A piece of deer meat that's been
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: saran wrapped and freezer paper wrapped and kept in a
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: deep freeze for two years ain't no different than a
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  Speaker 1: piece of deer meat in three months. It just isn't,
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  Speaker 1: I agree. Different. Now we're not saying the same thing
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: about the salmon.
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  Speaker 8: I didn't find the limit on red meat though I
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 8: came across.
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  Speaker 10: Uh.
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  Speaker 8: I came across the roast that had been in my freezer.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know how I missed it, man, because I'm
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 8: really diligent about managing my freezer. But I found a
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  Speaker 8: piece of meat that was five years old. Something had happened. Yeah,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 8: I just lost track of it, you know, No, I
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 8: mean something had happened to it. Oh oh yeah, so yeah,
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  Speaker 8: I did a fool proof roast recipe. You know, I
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  Speaker 8: just put I put some rub on it, and I
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 8: seared it in the pan and popped it in the
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 8: oventil it's like one hundred and twenty in the middle,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 8: and pulled it out, let it cool and siced it
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 8: up and it looked great. But it like the muscle structure,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 8: it just like was mushy and it just didn't it
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 8: was gross. You know, five years got it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So what you should do is go in and
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  Speaker 1: label them five years later, eat now from the future.
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  Speaker 6: One thing I do, yeah.
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  Speaker 11: Eat yeah, eat bye, best consumed and mark it out
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  Speaker 11: five years four years. Yeah, because when you look at it,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 11: when you look at some old ass can that you
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 11: found out your cab and it doesn't say when they
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 11: made it, this is when you should.
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  Speaker 1: Eat it by it. Yeah, that's a new way to date.
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  Speaker 5: One thing I do when I'm unpacking, too, is any
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: of the seals that have.
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  Speaker 2: Popped, I go back and reseal and I'll.
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  Speaker 5: Tell you when you reseal a frozen piece of fish
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: gets tight.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's a good tip. When I get home, invariably
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: you got bat bags that. Yeah. I have a bunch
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: of different theories out. My latest theory is something about
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: being in the cargo hold. Oh for sure, in the
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: air the cargo hold in the airplane does something to
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: back like it ruins a lot of seals on back bags.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: I just cut it open. I cut the top off
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  Speaker 1: and stick the bag right into a bag and resapp
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: and oh you keep.
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  Speaker 2: You don't even get rid of the bag, so you
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: reseal it in the bag.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: This was let's say this was a back bag. I
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: would just go with a pair of scissors and slide
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: it into a bag. A lot of times the label
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: shows right, you don't even need to relabel it, but
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: you don't label it. No, I'd label what it is.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: I want to know what it is. I know when
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: it's from names and no names, but not date this
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: year with my cut, I'm gonna do something that I
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: tried a long time ago. But I tried it with
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: some fish that have gotten skanky, Like like I had
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: some cod, a big cod from long million years ago.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: I had a big cod that got to the point
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: where I was like, eh, you know, you know you
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: don't want to open it up. You know when you
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: open it up. Another thing about long term fish freeze
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: and get the skin off Oh yeah, yeah, I've been
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: pretty good about that. If you want it, if you're
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: gonna if you're not gonna eat at megafresh, skin it
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: except for salmon, then you gotta scrape and wash it.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: You gotta get slam off. Like yesterday I was playing
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: I was playing a king that Luisa caught, and you
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: were saying, scrape. Oh, I forgot it helps a ton
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: and you just scrape all that slam off. I then
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: once you said it, I kind of took my I
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: scraped and took my rubber glove in the hose and
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: just washed him till he was like sand, you know
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: what I mean. Almost kind of a lot of the
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: scales came off. I was cleaning it. So good to
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: get all that slam off because we used to skin
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: we used to freeze hal but skin on not good.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Not scraped, Well that's you've got a lot. Yeah, it
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: even turns brown like the not good skank to link.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, some link gets skanky. Last year you're an
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: orange slimy. Yeah, it got real bad.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: It all starts here. You really have to scrape and
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: wash them. Slime it transfers down the line.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: Another long term freezing thing is on your shrimp when
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: you hit them. You got to clean that mm hmm.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: You gotta clean that little uh that junction all because
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: I think he's get when you tear it, it get
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: some kind of digestive fluid from the little orange wash
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: that not you pull that shrimp out and that turns
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: brown that face. But the more you remember how long
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: ron late and to make you wash them for it? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: he's like you'd be out there like an hour and
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: wash the shrimp. Yeah, clockwise clockwise. That's the wrong way.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: I don't don't swirl the counter.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of people that freeze them in water. We
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 5: don't have that luxury here because you don't want to
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: lug all that weight. Well, actually vacuum see them in
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: so they're just in a block of ice.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: I can picture that, and they hold.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: Up pretty good. But t s they don't like that
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: either water. Uh. Anyway, I tried to support what I
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: was trying to get to is salt cod. So I
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: tried to make salt cod with a piece of cod
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: that was already of questionable. Uh date this year, I'm
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: going to go home immediately and make some I'm gonna
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: go home immediately and make take my cod and make
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: a bunch of salt cod. But I can then re
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: you know, do like the French salt cod preparation.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's an old, old before refrigeration.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and then you and I. But I used
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: to order that, like in restaurants in New York. I
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: used to order the salt cod.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: Run run dot or like a yeah, it's kind of
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: what is it like mix it with mashed potatoes.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: It was an old you bring it back, yeah, you
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: kind of bring it back to life. Or you had
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: a song. Now that it's the year of the cod,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna, yeah, try some salt cod.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 9: I was gonna point out because I was how I
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 9: what I ended up doing usually my catch Just how
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 9: important like this whole process and trip is to like
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 9: friends and everybody, Like I'm getting texts while I'm here,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 9: like house of Shrimp this year.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Just like yeahs you know that's a bad one you liked,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: but yeah, the idea, like it's definitely.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 9: Like we host a ton of parties and just it's
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 9: all stuff from here in.
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  Speaker 5: The Northern Northern Mission community. How the fishing in southeast
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: is Yeah.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: Exactly, they know they know because of this trip.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 9: So yeah, it's a we do a lot of just
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 9: hosting parties and yeah, so it'll be good.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: Well, I want to thank you guys for doing this.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: Man goes it out saying and that's generally how in
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: our circle, I think everything goes without saying just how
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: much I have appreciated over all these years, the way
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: that uh, you guys have been so faithful about coming
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: up and hanging out. Thanks for sharing it. Man, it's
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: a place. One of the smartest things, one of the
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: smartest dumb things we ever did, is to uh buy
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: a place and have like a little hangout. But it
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: means so much. You guys come up all the time.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: Oh man, and you know it's corny but true. Man,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: be'st part about this place is just the fellowship. It's
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: being with you all. Oh yeah, it's the best thing
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 9: Make a joke about watching that floatplane leave after we
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 9: get here, like, oh, okay, now the year starts.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 5: And we were conversation yesterday about just how so many
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 5: people on the outside, you know, friends at home always
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 5: you kind of trying to describe this place, but there's
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: there's never a conversation that you can really express what
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: happens up here.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean, the.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: Day to day that well, that way understands it.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: Sitting down at dinner and all three boats are sharing
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: stories about yeah, the one offs and we saw this
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: and and just yeah.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: The camarade.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: You cannot explain this to people that have never experienced it.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: It just doesn't transfer to to you know, relate that
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: kind of information and.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: Any amount of work too.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 9: Yeah, the highs and lows of you know, we first
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 9: got here, all right, first day out, and like three
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 9: boats leave and we didn't get out of the cove.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: Oh it's like size and highs and lows to the mask.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: Somebody's back of the chack cleaned up mink ship. Yeah
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: we get. We get instead of a mouse infestation, we
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: get an annual mank infestation.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: They're getting crafty too.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: Well. I think I think we got to figure out
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: what's going on. I cleaned up some stuff in here
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: in the spring. That guy, I think, yeah, he he
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: went around the mink barrier. It's a whole long story.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: It might be. I think it's ain. We've had pine
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: Martin two. Yeah, come in. Yeah, all right, Well, thank
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: you guys, thank you, thank you for sharing. Thanks everybody
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: see us next time. M hm.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 12: Hm it was October mon old squirrels and vacon.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: For me, m.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 13: H it was a reddle watching the time he clutched
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 13: it through pitch Seth blind always sees what times. But
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 13: we're locked in because he is not. The treat isn't read.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 12: Tearing, it boats too.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 13: What we need is all the night shows the story
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 13: it all. Man wonders, how much.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 14: Can't it say, seethe and rod and feed and frass
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 14: until its other lads, it didn't happen.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 13: All it teases time strimmer for my fire, make a
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 13: bellow for my wine.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: All we see is what.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 14: Signs as God. We like in, but he's not.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 13: The streeters in what read while.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: Signing a falls to the mind. What we need is a.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 14: Nights trusts the story In all.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 12: She lends her fragrance as a cut into her rings.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 12: It's telling me a story that the I didn't know.
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  Speaker 7: A scene