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- 0:12Can you imagine how happy Under Armour was with the same?
- 0:16Imagine when they got the call, like, hey, so can we use your?
- 0:21Yes, we'll send you short the shirt jockstraps.
- 0:29Whatever. You know, Chris Evans is gonna
- 0:31wear it in a Marvel film. You say no more.
- 0:43Hello and welcome to the art accounting.
- 0:44Blogcast I was with joy glass and I'm captain Spencer
- 0:48Williams. What's up Elizabeth?
- 0:51Oh you know, nothing much. Nothing much the Fourth of July.
- 0:58Yeah, that's true. I was the Fourth of July.
- 1:01I'll met Elizabeth. I'm not feeling very patriotic
- 1:06this year. Oh, you're, you're not feeling
- 1:09patriotic right now? The world is very disgusting.
- 1:15I just had a, yeah, yeah, I am not happy.
- 1:21So, I actually worked yesterday because I'm like, well, I might
- 1:25as well make money since nobody in this country is going to take
- 1:29care of. Of me, it's hard to celebrate.
- 1:34I guess the patriotism of your country when you live in a
- 1:37country that doesn't care about all the citizens and the people
- 1:40who live in it and their different views, their bodies
- 1:44and their own rights. And it's just, I don't know, I
- 1:46know. Yeah, just have so much to say,
- 1:48I don't want to say all on this podcast, but not thrilled like
- 1:53when they say they're saving lives, but all they're really
- 1:55doing is just doubling doubling. How many people are going to be
- 1:58hurt? Now, I love it.
- 2:01So today we are going to continue our tradition since
- 2:05there's nothing else. Good in this country to
- 2:07celebrate, we are celebrating the greatest aspect of America.
- 2:12We are celebrating America's ass.
- 2:14Once again this week, we watched Winter Soldier that was probably
- 2:19the sickest transition. We messed up.
- 2:22So, anyways, America's ass is looking finer than ever it.
- 2:27Is it is. And we We don't just have
- 2:31America's Finest ass. We have his friends, finest
- 2:35asses. Well, are you talking about our
- 2:39favorite? Your favorite Bucky Barnes as
- 2:43the Winter Soldier James Buchanan.
- 2:44Barnes the third, yes, this is really exciting for us.
- 2:49If you all remember, actually the very first episode we ever
- 2:52recorded even though our first episode was korilla, we actually
- 2:57recorded our Captain America episode first Cuz ya seen a
- 3:01hundred times. Yeah, we were so nervous and
- 3:04just disorganized we had to record it into separate sitting
- 3:09because do you remember we were recording and I think we hit
- 3:13like something like two hours and he had and become Captain
- 3:17America, because we decided it was a good idea to like drink a
- 3:23lot during the recording because we were nervous and we talked
- 3:28about every single scene. I I wish I could have shared.
- 3:31I probably have them somewhere my notes for that.
- 3:33But literally was like seen one like they dive into the ship,
- 3:38you know? And I yeah like we did that and
- 3:40they go down to like 60 scenes is like camera pans left.
- 3:44Like it was so detailed. I tried finding my original
- 3:50notes for some of our first episodes and I couldn't find
- 3:53them because like it was so long ago.
- 3:57And at some point, I did look back.
- 4:00Look back at my career low notes.
- 4:01And I think I deleted them because I was like these, make
- 4:03no sense. So, to keep up this incredible
- 4:09tradition. We are doing the next Captain,
- 4:12America film The Winter Soldier. And I love this film this
- 4:17though. However, was only my second time
- 4:19seeing it somehow. So.
- 4:21Oh my gosh, this is like one of my favorite Marvel films.
- 4:25However, this time around. And I don't know why.
- 4:28I like this time. It hit me.
- 4:31This is the most violent Marvel film, right?
- 4:35Well, like, hands down. I was thinking the same thing
- 4:38and then I realized that we just saw dr.
- 4:40Strange, I feel like they might go hand-in-hand, there's blood
- 4:44in that one. There's still no blood.
- 4:45Yeah, but that's like fantasy violence.
- 4:49It's not like Natasha Romanoff choking people and murdering
- 4:53everybody in her path, or that one Sadie guys Suited.
- 4:57His maid. Fuck what?
- 5:00Yes, I'd forgotten about that. Captain America.
- 5:05Messes people up. Yeah.
- 5:07He was giving some real Batman Vibes a couple times.
- 5:11Yeah. And then, like, one Buck, he's
- 5:13like, destroying the entire Shield like miniature Air Force,
- 5:18like, he threw someone into like a plane turbine.
- 5:25Yeah, but you know what? Happens.
- 5:28I don't know. I, I true true, but you know
- 5:32what? Let's dive into this.
- 5:33Give us that summary Spencer. All right.
- 5:37Well everyone, those pesky Hydra Knuckleheads are added again
- 5:43after the cataclysmic events in New York with his fellow
- 5:46vengers. Steve Rogers, aka the Captain
- 5:49America lives in the nation's capital as he tries to adjust to
- 5:52Modern Times an attack on a shield colleague throws Rogers
- 5:57and Web of intrigue, that places a whole world at risk joining
- 6:00forces with the black widow and a new Ally.
- 6:03The Falcon Rogers struggles to expose an ever-widening
- 6:07conspiracy but he and his team come up against an unexpected
- 6:10enemy and that is Captain America.
- 6:13The Winter Soldier. Yes, it is.
- 6:15If you haven't seen it, go watch it.
- 6:17It's on Disney. Plus it was real nice.
- 6:20Go view that fine-ass that America has produced and then
- 6:25jump behind the Wardrobe with us.
- 6:27Us, we have directors, Anthony and Joe Russo aka the Russo
- 6:32Brothers. Which honestly, this just sounds
- 6:35dope working with your siblings for a living.
- 6:39That sounds fun. We're, we're basically siblings.
- 6:44This is we are, we are basically siblings.
- 6:47That's so true. We're like the Russo siblings of
- 6:51podcasting that casting. Absolutely.
- 6:54Absolutely. Um, so we have the Russo
- 6:59brothers and one of our favorites costume designer Judy,
- 7:03Anna, Makowski, yeah, hey, you don't know her from the Six
- 7:08Degrees of Separation Pleasantville for which she got
- 7:11her first, Oscar nomination. Great Expectations.
- 7:15The Devil's Advocate X-Men, the Last and both National Treasure
- 7:20movies, Seabiscuit for which she got a second, Oscar nomination
- 7:24and I've actually never seen Seabiscuit anyway.
- 7:28Harry Potter, your - so much always talking about it growing
- 7:33up. His like, I was not a fan of
- 7:35horses growing up. I was not a horse girl.
- 7:38Anyway. Well then you're not gonna like
- 7:39sea biscuits. Mmm, gotcha.
- 7:44Also, another one of our favorites.
- 7:46Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone for, which she got her
- 7:50third, Oscar nomination, The Suicide Squad, Avengers and gain
- 7:55Avengers Infinity. Or Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2
- 8:00and Captain America Civil War right now.
- 8:03She's working on Guardians, vol 3 and the Guardians of the
- 8:07Galaxy holiday special. Yay!
- 8:10I'm so excited. Honestly, it Judy on has really
- 8:13become one of my all-time favorite costume designers.
- 8:16She does the coolest stuff. I mean The Suicide Squad and
- 8:19Guardians of the Galaxy 2 of my favorites.
- 8:22That new Suicide Squad was just like gorgeous.
- 8:25It was top-tier costuming. Yes absolutely.
- 8:29And unfortunately she didn't really do a lot of interviews
- 8:33for this film. As I said before, the further
- 8:37back in time we go, the less information there is and I mean
- 8:42we're very lucky in the last couple of years.
- 8:44It's really, you know it's gotten much more common for
- 8:47costume designers, to be interviewed for their work.
- 8:51Not so much back, one captain and Captain America.
- 8:55The Winter Soldier came out, she Talk to tyranny of style and she
- 9:00said about the film and it's characters, although some of the
- 9:05particular characters have been seen before, each film is its
- 9:08own entity with its own specific needs.
- 9:11And look I did Research into the backstories and the previous
- 9:15films. So I had a basis from which to
- 9:18move forward on my first my first day on the job I was
- 9:22handed a very large stack of comics to read.
- 9:25So I would be familiar with The foundation.
- 9:29So this is what I love when someone's like.
- 9:31Okay, let's let's see what this is all about because it is part
- 9:36of a larger franchise and you can't just ignore it.
- 9:40There are Comics, there are movies.
- 9:43She was like, okay, let's see what this is all about and then
- 9:46move forward. I love that.
- 9:48Can you imagine like, just a huge stack of comics?
- 9:51I like, here's your homework, like, having a like that's true.
- 9:56That's true. But Spencer, after our break,
- 10:00are you ready to jump onto a ship and watch this movie?
- 10:06I'm grabbing my shield as we speak it.
- 10:08All beautiful, everybody will be right back.
- 10:26Hello. Blogcast listeners is Elizabeth
- 10:28Joy glass co host and producer of The Art of costume blogcast.
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- 11:13Spencer. Are you ready for a little jog?
- 11:16A little jog, I don't jog dawley running.
- 11:19I do is for my life so I know, I know I say I hike but ever since
- 11:28I moved back home that's been less and less true.
- 11:32I hiked to the kitchen. About it.
- 11:35Yeah, but um, Captain America and our newest character, Sam
- 11:41Wilson. They like to just jog around the
- 11:44DC area. I am so dumb, Elizabeth the
- 11:48whole on your left seen it, did not Donna me.
- 11:52Until today, remember, an end game when the Falcon comes out
- 11:55of Portland, says on your left and capful, your turns around.
- 11:58Yeah, I didn't realize it was a reference to this and it's so
- 12:02cool that They reference back to it within the movie as well.
- 12:08Anyways, the Falcon is so crazy. Like going back in time and
- 12:12seeing like some of our characters for the first time
- 12:15Anthony Mackie who plays Sam Wilson.
- 12:17Like, he's so ingrained in the franchise now, especially now
- 12:21that he was like one of the main characters of the Falcon and
- 12:23when I Soldier TV show, it's like, oh, he was like a little
- 12:28baby in this movie, they both look great.
- 12:32And they're little like Outfits, got a little jog you know, caps
- 12:36wearing a shirt that's like slightly small for him of course
- 12:40or fit, adjust right. However you want to see it and
- 12:44Sam, he's just like, clearly got like his just gym shorts and his
- 12:50Air Force like sweatshirt. Like not put together at all.
- 12:54And I love Steve. He's like all decked out and
- 12:56Under Armour and I'm like, clearly, like Natasha took him
- 13:01shopping one day. Hey, and was like Like you need
- 13:05clothing, and I'm going to pick it all out for you.
- 13:08Can you imagine how happy Under Armour was with this scene?
- 13:12I mean, right. That's the best advertisement
- 13:15you could ever get. Can you imagine when they got
- 13:17the call? Like, hey, so can we use your
- 13:22yes, whatever you want. Well, some do you shorts a
- 13:28shirt, jockstraps? Whatever you need?
- 13:31Yeah, whatever you need. It is here for you.
- 13:34Chris Evans is going to wear it. Yes, in a Marvel film, say no
- 13:39more. But unfortunately, Captain
- 13:45America does have to say more because of him and the black
- 13:49widow have to go on a little mission mission to save some
- 13:52hostages on a ship and they both look very, very cool.
- 13:57They both look great. When when Natasha rolled up in
- 14:00that black car and it was like we got some stuff to do.
- 14:03I was just like, yeah. So dope.
- 14:05I love that little flirty moment between her and Sam.
- 14:09It's like it's so cute right? Natasha's be flirting around
- 14:15with a lot of these adventures and starting to notice.
- 14:17Yes, I also love how she's just like desperately trying to get
- 14:25Steve set up with somebody right.
- 14:28Like I was like too late for you guys to get together but I've
- 14:33keep forgetting. She has like a weird.
- 14:34Thing for the whole quits. Yeah, yeah.
- 14:38Okay. So Natasha her costume to me
- 14:41feels more elevated than the last time we saw her, which
- 14:44honestly, I'm not even sure what her last movie would have been
- 14:47before this, but I know that it would have been Avengers
- 14:50Avengers. So she definitely like, has gone
- 14:53a little bit of like a wardrobe upgrade.
- 14:55I would say, yes, the russos really wanted everything to be
- 15:00extremely realistic, they told Told Judy on it.
- 15:05They wanted everything to look like it would fit into DC
- 15:08society today. And so that's really where they
- 15:13went especially with his suit. They were like okay they're in
- 15:16shield now they're spies. They're not really trying to
- 15:19like be flashy so they needed something very different Judy on
- 15:24the said to the Oscars.com. So we had to create a fabric
- 15:29that was actually stretch but had a printed texture so that it
- 15:34looked It was a hard fabric, it's actually made out of about
- 15:38four or five different Fabrics. So they told her, they wanted
- 15:44the suit to look like it was Kevlar.
- 15:46They didn't want it to be stretchy.
- 15:48They wanted it to look hard more militant and she was given a
- 15:54piece of concept art by Orion near dang.
- 15:59The head of visual development, that's at Marvel Studios.
- 16:03And she was like, okay, Okay, well, I cannot make this out of
- 16:07a hard material. She was like that, not
- 16:10practical. So they used a couple different
- 16:14ones, they printed the Kevlar, look onto it and then put it
- 16:20together. Apparently, it was such a
- 16:23comfortable suit that Chris Evans like stayed in it at
- 16:26lunch, his lunches in it because he was like, this is
- 16:29comfortable. Like I don't need to get out of
- 16:31it, I'm sure that made the pas. Customers what not like very
- 16:36uncomfortable. Yeah, they were probably like
- 16:39here's a million and two napkins or predict them into your collar
- 16:43is upon. So you would usually wear on the
- 16:45Jurassic Park ride at Universal Studios.
- 16:48You know, the last time you and I talked about Captain America,
- 16:51like we said, it was our second episode the First Avenger, which
- 16:55that's set during World War Two. So looking to now it's very
- 16:58interesting, it does, you know, it's very similar to that very
- 17:01first costume, he wears, but you could tell it is very A
- 17:04modernized it just something about subtly.
- 17:08You could feel like it would blend in in the area where
- 17:10people would see it, you know, they just saw aliens attack, New
- 17:13York city. So yeah, this I don't think what
- 17:15stands out to anyone too much. No, absolutely not.
- 17:19It's very, it's very stealthy. Yeah.
- 17:22And but it's still very Captain America.
- 17:24It's still got his a on the helmet and his little star on
- 17:29his chest. So it's like, they didn't, I
- 17:31feel like they didn't go too far away.
- 17:34From that original style, but it's definitely more modern,
- 17:37right? They took the red out.
- 17:39That's what's, that's what's making it stealthy.
- 17:41Yeah. And I do like, you can see the
- 17:45original concept art and the final costume do look very
- 17:48similar, but you can see like there's red in the original
- 17:51concept art and she was clear like, no we're not putting red
- 17:55on him on his stealth suit. The concept are is a little bit
- 18:01more like Captain America key. And this is Like even more toned
- 18:06down and realistic than that who's also toned down and more
- 18:11realistic, we have backed or vector.
- 18:17I don't know how to pronounce this.
- 18:19Something very French played by Georges St-Pierre who I think is
- 18:24also very French. I'm not sure.
- 18:26So he's like a mixed martial artist.
- 18:29Believe I was Googling it today because I just kept looking at
- 18:32him and I was like I know this guy, I don't Know how he's just
- 18:36basically like a professional ass-kicker.
- 18:38Okay, so, perfect, casting. I'd say oh, it was perfect.
- 18:43Casting. Um, also I love how they drew
- 18:48inspiration from the comics while it was still very like
- 18:52believable. He's a pirate or he's at least
- 18:55doing piratey activities. But he also just kind of I feel
- 18:59like he's very confident that he's going to get his job done
- 19:02wearing this. Purple and yellow top, right?
- 19:07It's actually this is kind of like a Judy on a Makowski
- 19:10specialty because we talked about this we talk about her
- 19:13work on The Suicide Squad episodes ago where she was
- 19:15taking comic book characters who you know like the polka dot man
- 19:20and had to make it like look realistic and she was doing that
- 19:23same thing for Captain America back then.
- 19:25So if you all don't know what we're talking about because we
- 19:29can't pronounce his name georgeous About to Rock, maybe
- 19:33Brock yeah. He is the pirate on the ship
- 19:37that Captain America. Very quickly takes care of.
- 19:40Yeah, yeah, but yeah I love you can see like she took a little
- 19:45bit of inspiration from like all his different iterations and it
- 19:48looks that like fight scene with the two of them.
- 19:51Look so cool. Yeah, it was pretty awesome.
- 19:54Also, pretty awesome. We have Samuel L Jackson back as
- 19:58Fury. Oh, Nick Fury, I love him.
- 20:01Actually, I was just gonna tell you.
- 20:04Samuel Jackson was quoted, I think, is like this week talking
- 20:07about like, how he's done doing roles for, you know, trying to
- 20:11guess Oscars. And he just wants to be like
- 20:14Nick Fury and Mace Windu forever, basically.
- 20:17And I was like, you know what? Yes, yes, I approve, yes.
- 20:23I love that has. He's never has he been
- 20:25nominated? He was just given an honorary
- 20:28Oscar this year actually. So yeah, Mace Windu and Nick
- 20:34Fury here. He come.
- 20:35We know where that that doesn't sound fair.
- 20:37But you know what? I love it.
- 20:39I love that. He's like, I'm just gonna enjoy
- 20:40the rest of my career. He's like, I'm gonna ride this
- 20:46out and have a blast. I love that.
- 20:50I also love Nick Fury's office where up until this point.
- 20:54He's only ever been, like out in the field being Nick Fury.
- 20:59And now it's like He has to be an office.
- 21:02Yes, be a little bit professional but it's still not
- 21:04like, he's clearly not going to wear just normal suit and tie.
- 21:09He's got that that great shirt with the stand-up collar.
- 21:14His costume is interesting because it's actually giving
- 21:17like super villain to me almost like an awesome powers villain
- 21:22kind of? Yes.
- 21:24But I don't, it's like the stand-up collar which to me
- 21:27usually reads off as a villain. So, what which is why it's
- 21:31Actually makes sense for this film.
- 21:32Do because people make Nick Fury to be the villain throughout.
- 21:37That's true. It's kind of like a nod to where
- 21:40his character is going for this film.
- 21:42Even though Nick Fury is always on the right side, always
- 21:45trusted Fury. Even when it seems like, you
- 21:47shouldn't trust him. Yeah, that's really the moral of
- 21:51this story because even when people look like a good guys,
- 21:54they turn out to be bad guys. We have Robert Redford as
- 21:58Alexander Pierce Ooh, he didn't look like a good guy to me,
- 22:05you're sick. He's just got like a, he's like,
- 22:09generic like office politician guy, like not good but like this
- 22:17does not read as evil. It's a gray suit with a blue
- 22:21striped. I like scary so it's scary.
- 22:28Yeah Robert Redford in this role having he has to Kills it and
- 22:32something about his suit though to me is unsettling.
- 22:35I think it's the fact that's just like all gray.
- 22:38Yes. It's also a little boxy on him.
- 22:42Yeah it's not like nice and fitted.
- 22:45It's like ooh what are you hiding?
- 22:48Yeah something about us uncomfortable.
- 22:50So I think at first he's like appearing as someone we could
- 22:54trust but if you look at his costume something about it's not
- 22:58right and that's totally intentional I am.
- 23:01Under percent positive. I am sure what I feel like is
- 23:05also, intentional is a making Sam look like a youth pastor,
- 23:10right? Like, I love that.
- 23:13He liked works at the VA and is like love and what he's doing.
- 23:16But unlike you, you look so nerdy right now, my my dude,
- 23:21like so that's a great character.
- 23:24He is. And I can tell like I love how
- 23:27she uses it because it's like the pants are not the right fit.
- 23:30The Top like this outfit does not fit him correctly, and it's
- 23:34like, you can tell as much as he loves his job, like he's not
- 23:38comfortable staying out of the action.
- 23:41Yeah. He's he's giving like very dad
- 23:44energy right now even though he's not a dad, but he's trying
- 23:48to adjust to like this this new life that he has or he's working
- 23:52in a more like you know, like you just said not in a combat
- 23:55role. So at the same time he's just
- 23:58kind of dreaming about being the Falcon again but he's You know
- 24:01just at Target looking for like what does business attire look
- 24:05like business? Casual, yeah, yeah, he was like
- 24:09khakis on a button-down. Sure this looks fine but also
- 24:17looks fine. Is the Captain America exhibit
- 24:21at the Smithsonian? I love this part.
- 24:24Elizabeth, I literally wanted to text.
- 24:26You be like this is so cool because it's almost like Looks
- 24:31like the Winter Soldier film was like listening to our podcast
- 24:34was like, let's put together a costume exhibition from the
- 24:37first film. It's so cool.
- 24:39I love it. Just look at the costumes.
- 24:41I love it. So I love seeing like all the
- 24:44all the costumes from the last film, but it's also just crazy
- 24:47because it's like, oh wow, these are just pieces of history.
- 24:51Now in this world, right? I'm like they have the bowler
- 24:54hat guy, they have James Buchanan.
- 24:58Barnes the third that I get that right?
- 25:01Hmm. And the original like Steve
- 25:04Rogers Captain America suit with the shield.
- 25:06It's just it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun.
- 25:10Also, who looks like she's going to be a lot of fun is kak Agent
- 25:1613. You think she's just the cute
- 25:19nurse across the hall at first but she is not.
- 25:22She's a shield agent. I'm surprised.
- 25:26Captain America didn't pick up on this honestly.
- 25:29Let's go. I'll be honest for a second,
- 25:33great ass, not always the most observant.
- 25:42I won't. They have this scrubs top on
- 25:44her, just like baby pink. She's all Smiley and flirty, and
- 25:49it's just like you took her at face value, man, you should have
- 25:53known better, come on. Okay, am I wrong?
- 25:57But was Kate in Captain America, Winter Soldier.
- 26:01Yes, I'm going in the Winter Soldier Falcon and when she's
- 26:05was Emily VanCamp, reprised her role and her role turned out to
- 26:10be evil. Remember right?
- 26:13Yeah, that's what I thought. I've okay, so this is her.
- 26:16Yeah. So she's a confusing character,
- 26:18Miss Kate, yeah. I I feel like, she's bye-bye
- 26:23Falcon, and Winter Soldier. She's just so fed up.
- 26:26Like, we all are right now with a government's inability to To
- 26:31trust women and not make them into criminals.
- 26:35Yeah. So she's like it's time to, you
- 26:38know, team up with probably Julia Louis-Dreyfus and start
- 26:42you know, fighting back causing some chaos.
- 26:46She isn't done all that was great when she does that
- 26:50tearful. Like thank you for you know
- 26:55letting me back into the country and then she's like I'm in.
- 26:59Yeah nice. But also, what's nice is we get
- 27:04our first glance at the Winter Soldier?
- 27:08Oh man, I know for fact, I mean, I already know what Elizabeth's,
- 27:12one costly rule them all, is I just do this.
- 27:15Entire film is very Elizabeth and I just know how excited she
- 27:21is. So, take it away a little bit.
- 27:23So we have Sebastian Stan as the Winter Soldier?
- 27:28We don't know this yet. We don't know.
- 27:31Yes. Yeah, because he's got those
- 27:32iconic goggles and the face mask and also, he's not in his
- 27:37iconic, Winter Soldier, look, yet.
- 27:41He's wearing this. Just kind of practical leather
- 27:45jacket. Just like looking cool.
- 27:48Trying to murder Nick Fury but it's like, you only get to see
- 27:52glimpses of it. You're like, who, who is this?
- 27:55Cool fellow. Yeah, clearly his like mission
- 27:57was to get in, take Nick Fury out and be done with them.
- 28:01Like five minutes. I just really blew out of
- 28:03proportion. So I don't think he was like
- 28:05fully suited up yet. No, no.
- 28:08I wish I saw this film in theaters when it came out,
- 28:11because I admittedly was not like fully in the Marvel
- 28:15Universe at this time, like going to midnight from years.
- 28:18Like I of course, I saw like Iron Man and I saw a Avengers,
- 28:21but I wasn't like super until like every Captain America film.
- 28:24So I wish I could go back in time and see the audience
- 28:27reaction to seeing Bucky for the first time, right, right.
- 28:31Lee in 10th, I can't, I feel like I saw this in theaters but
- 28:34I'm not sure. One thing I am sure about is
- 28:38that the elevator scene is one of the best fight sequences in
- 28:42film history and nobody can convince me.
- 28:45Otherwise it's so good. Honestly, it's up there for the
- 28:49MCU for shirts. Like top five, when that one
- 28:53soldier is like, you see, like the beads of sweat going down
- 28:56his forehead. I'm like, oh my gosh, he might
- 28:59not be very observant Captain America.
- 29:01But he like had his Wheaties that morning.
- 29:03Yeah, like when it counted, when it counted and it's like, I love
- 29:07just the Sea of black whether they're, like part of the
- 29:09Tactical Team or like, in a suit and he's just like, does anybody
- 29:14want to get off on the next floor before we start?
- 29:17And just, I'm all I would have got off everything.
- 29:20Okay, why I changed my mind but nobody changes their mind and
- 29:29Captain America has to go on. The Run Spencer.
- 29:33Okay. I think we need to go on the Run
- 29:35ourselves. Take a little break.
- 29:37Yeah. Apparently we need to just snap
- 29:39the cords off the elevator, one of my worst fears even though
- 29:42the chance of your elevator free-falling in America's like
- 29:450.1 or something. Yeah, yeah, let's let's get out
- 29:51of here. Take a little break, take a
- 29:53little break. We'll be right back.
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- 30:13producer of the art accosting. Blogcast, I love the simple
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- 30:44Thank you for all your support. Spencer, I had to go on the run
- 31:07with anybody. I would go on the run with you
- 31:12with me. Well, maybe not with you maybe
- 31:16with Natasha. She seems like a safer bet.
- 31:18Actually wait, I take it back on the run with me.
- 31:22One of my favorite costumes of the entire film is Natasha's
- 31:26disguise. Because I love Natasha to death
- 31:30but her disguises are always trashed.
- 31:31It's clearly you Natasha. You're wearing a hoodie with her
- 31:36hair down. It's like you tie that back like
- 31:39you pull that like Steve looks better like today.
- 31:44I can't believe Steve is trying to run away, he put glasses on,
- 31:48you know? Yeah he put glasses on a little
- 31:51hat to cover his. Is impeccable hair.
- 31:54He looks kind of like a better-looking Average Joe
- 31:57almost. Um, but I love them all seeing
- 32:02just cuz like she's kind of relaxed because she's done this
- 32:06her entire life but he's just freaking out the whole time.
- 32:10Black widows essentially always on the run so she's like it's
- 32:13just another day. At least this time I have a
- 32:15partner you know. Yeah.
- 32:18I also love the mm appearance of Aaron the Poor guy the product
- 32:25placement in this Captain America is impeccable.
- 32:31Yeah, it's pretty pretty awesome.
- 32:33There's some good deals made with this film and somehow it
- 32:37still didn't come off like, to in your face, though.
- 32:40Which is yes, is okay. You know, like Under Armour
- 32:43Apple, it's subtle and that's okay, it's, it's stuff.
- 32:47That is actually like, in our, in our faces, in our everyday
- 32:51lives. So it makes sense.
- 32:52Sense that it would be in their Universe.
- 32:54Like, of course, you went to an overcrowded Apple Store to use
- 32:58one of their computers. Of course, you did, and the
- 33:00Apple employees are, like, in your face and you're just trying
- 33:03to like, you know, steal information from the government.
- 33:07Oh yeah, apple. I went to an Apple store with a
- 33:10friend, a couple months back and an Apple employee tried.
- 33:13Real hard to sell me. Some are pods.
- 33:16I was like, sorry I am poor. You don't have air pumps.
- 33:19Elizabeth Apple are pods now. We gotta get you some but you
- 33:25know also stands out the entire team, tracking them down.
- 33:30I'm like none of you look conspicuous right now.
- 33:34They look like Grand Theft Auto villains.
- 33:36Like, I know these guys are up to no good in this mall.
- 33:41I'm like, literally as Captain America, all he needed to do was
- 33:45like, pull off his glasses and hat and be like, those guys are
- 33:48trying to, you know, be evil and like They would have been mobbed
- 33:53by a bunch of people being like, well, Captain America told me to
- 33:57well else was well. So it's not realistic was
- 34:00Natasha Town, Captain America, the kiss her and he was like all
- 34:03hesitant I was like shut up Captain America just kiss her.
- 34:08No, because he's a man of his time.
- 34:11And the kiss somebody in public like that, the idea clearly just
- 34:17was Unthinkable to him, right? I forget that.
- 34:20He's old Yeah, he's 90. He's not dead but they they seek
- 34:28some help from Sam and just everybody starts looking real
- 34:32cool real fast. Oh yeah, that scene when Sam is
- 34:36like at a, you know, restaurants.
- 34:38Wow. That's Amazon.
- 34:40A restaurant in that leather jacket and some aviators like
- 34:43he's looking real fly right now, right?
- 34:46Right. Like, he looks so chill and
- 34:48relax and then Natasha has like, This piece is a little bit
- 34:53underrated for her but this this brown leather like motorcycle
- 34:58jacket that just looks so cool. She looks so cool combination of
- 35:03like her classic red hair. It's just yeah, this is a solid
- 35:07costume for Natasha. It is solid.
- 35:10And I also love how they give us like a little peek of Falcon in
- 35:16this scene when they're interrogating, the Hydra /.
- 35:22The old agent, they give us like a peek of what the Falcon is,
- 35:26but not entirely and it's just like, oh, this looks cool.
- 35:30And then you just keep like, Sam as the Falcon just gets cooler
- 35:34and cooler, through the movie, right?
- 35:37Yeah. He's such a good character.
- 35:39I'm so glad that he's gained like his Spotlight nowadays,
- 35:43right, right. No, his I'm really excited for
- 35:45his future. Such a cool character.
- 35:47I know I'm, I'm excited for the second season of Falcon and
- 35:51Winter Soldier. I feel like It's going to be
- 35:52good. I don't think that they're doing
- 35:54a second season. I think he's gaining smelling
- 35:56movie, I think he's the next Captain America movie where he
- 36:01is Captain America, which I think is pretty badass.
- 36:03That's exciting. I am happy that actually makes
- 36:06me more happy. Yeah, I hope he's fighting more
- 36:09Hydro to. This is like my favorite
- 36:11villains. I would they're just like, easy
- 36:13to hate, you know. Yeah, we've got Steve looking
- 36:20great like this. Whole blue jacket.
- 36:23Look of his. Yeah.
- 36:25Topless it's brings out his eyes.
- 36:28That's a nice quality jacket. You know, he got it, I like a
- 36:30nice department store but looks comfortable.
- 36:33Was that like a bomber jacket? Yeah, yeah.
- 36:37Has like a little bit of a velvety texture to it.
- 36:40Hmm. I believe those were made for
- 36:42him but the good jacket doesn't last long because we finally
- 36:47have our Winter Soldier who is revealed to be James.
- 36:51Buchanan bar. And the third the moment we've
- 36:56all been waiting. So cool.
- 36:58Elizabeth well that's look let's put some way for this moment
- 37:01since July of 2021. Yeah, we're okay.
- 37:07Before you go into all the say he looks pretty awesome at this
- 37:12costume is just so detailed from top to bottom.
- 37:17The goggles, the super cool arm The Mask, it's just a straps.
- 37:22Hardness. It's just so much detail, but
- 37:24yet somehow feels realistic to their area and a post like New
- 37:29York attack in Avengers. Like nothing about this, like,
- 37:33stands out too much, but it's just, yeah, that's really cool.
- 37:37No, it looks so cool. It's like it suits him so well
- 37:42because it's like, okay, he's like like kind of like a Soviet
- 37:46like technology brainwash over and over again and I feel like
- 37:49you can't just see like the Soviet influence.
- 37:52So in that jacket and it's just it's chefs kiss.
- 37:57Like a, what more can we say you weren't more?
- 38:01Can we say you were this costume to the Halloween party?
- 38:04You and I have stood, right? I did, I did I did it a modified
- 38:09version of his of his jacket and was Bucky Barnes for Halloween.
- 38:14So good. We should post that on
- 38:17Instagram, we should, but then 11 Steve sees that it's his
- 38:25Best. Gal pal, he gets sad and has a
- 38:29little memory time flashback. There we go.
- 38:35That's so weird. Steve gets in his feelings and
- 38:39he's remembering his good, ol, pal.
- 38:41Bucky, it's just very cute. We get to see like the cute
- 38:44little like shrimpy Steve. Yeah, I also love how the whole
- 38:50like tone changes back. Back to that the same tone they
- 38:53had in the first movie, right? Like, it looks very much like,
- 38:58clearly. They filmed it for this movie,
- 39:00but it almost looks like it could have been a deleted scene
- 39:03from it, for sure. Captain America.
- 39:06Yeah, there were like Giuliana, we have to go back to the 40s
- 39:11and she was like, I got this cake.
- 39:16Oh, but that can't. Last long, they have to
- 39:20infiltrate Shield week. To see the security Council.
- 39:24And we get to see Kasia be an amazing spy that she is.
- 39:29Yeah. We get to see black widow if she
- 39:32were like a, you know, Senator or something like what she would
- 39:35wear and it's pretty awesome. Yes, I was like, I would always
- 39:41love to like I would love to know that Security Council
- 39:45woman, her reaction after she found out the Black Widow stole
- 39:49her identity. I'm like, or were Were you like,
- 39:53in on this, like I get the feeling that she was probably
- 39:57super honored, and she was like, yes, girl, you get it.
- 40:00It's about time. We, you know, step up and just
- 40:03take this man down, so she's probably really excited about
- 40:07it. I hope so, I hope so, cuz Black
- 40:09Widow makes her look good. She's that whole Navy Ensemble
- 40:13with the gold. It looks and it looks good on
- 40:16the actress that plays the councilwoman and then it just
- 40:19looks like killer. On the Tasha's.
- 40:23Well, it's giving me like Angela Merkel Vibes the former
- 40:28chancellor of Germany. Oh oh wow.
- 40:33I just really know my politics but also, Captain America had to
- 40:41figure something out. He was like I need my old suit,
- 40:44back associated with Shield anymore and he steals his
- 40:50Captain America. Costume back and they wallet
- 40:55looks like the one from the original Captain America.
- 40:59The First Avenger movie, they did have to slightly redesign
- 41:04and remake. It just to fit, you know, the
- 41:08style and look and tone of this movie.
- 41:11But it's like, it doesn't really matter because it looks like the
- 41:13old one. Yeah, to me, it's still pretty
- 41:16much reads the same. Yeah.
- 41:20But yeah, it looks awesome like I do No it, you could definitely
- 41:23tell it is vintage compared to what he's been wearing, the
- 41:27entire film, but still like, still somehow works.
- 41:30You know. Absolutely absolutely.
- 41:33What's also working, is the entire Shield agency, just
- 41:37fighting itself. It's really confusing.
- 41:41I would go home for today. I think it would be time for a
- 41:43sick day. If you worked at Shield.
- 41:44I know, I would just be, like, I got ya.
- 41:48I got my cat. Yeah, the vet's office?
- 41:51I don't know you. You all figure this out.
- 41:53Let me know. Let me know if I need to find a
- 41:54new job. I don't know who to trust.
- 41:56I'm just gonna go home Naked and Afraid is on so which it's wild
- 42:03because it's like they're all wearing these just like various
- 42:06types of Shield uniforms and it's just like that would be so
- 42:09confusing. It's so confusing.
- 42:11I think that's part of like the costume chaos of it all to is
- 42:15just like 101 different types of costumes on all these different
- 42:19soldiers. You wouldn't know who to trust
- 42:21and who. On whose side which, you know,
- 42:24Judy on, it really added to the chaos in a great way.
- 42:27Absolutely. Also adding to the chaos and a
- 42:29great way, we see Sam in his full falcon suit Glory.
- 42:35Just messing things up. He looks great.
- 42:39That suit is so cool. And this is definitely like
- 42:42before it's gone. All the like Stark at Stark Tony
- 42:46Stark. Yeah, Stark.
- 42:48Yeah. Sorry.
- 42:49I haven't said that word a long time before he.
- 42:52He's gone like all this Stark advancements on his suit but yet
- 42:56still somehow looks like really cool because tell it is a little
- 42:59bit more like homemade in sense that it doesn't have like the
- 43:02most Advanced Technologies. Yeah.
- 43:05Like I once a homemade because it's it is his falcon suit from
- 43:11the Army but you can tell the rest of its kind of cobbled
- 43:14together because he doesn't like to wear under it, he's not have
- 43:17a suit suit, but he's found what the best that he can.
- 43:20He's got this Cute little like tactical vest underneath it.
- 43:25Yeah. He's definitely taking care of
- 43:27it himself. Yeah, he it's like you look like
- 43:31a superhero man. What I love though, it's is so
- 43:35hilarious. Oh, so he's Marvel movies is
- 43:37when something like, when battles like this happen and the
- 43:40other Ventures, don't help. It always makes me crazy.
- 43:44Like, patients were about to get ready to go in the air and just
- 43:47start shooting people and like no one else has to be.
- 43:52I say no, I meant nothing and this happens occasionally, I'm
- 43:56like, you know, Iron Man would have been there.
- 43:59Well, I could have been there. 20 minutes.
- 44:04Also, I love Nick Fury's look when he's going in to confront
- 44:10his his former besties and just being like, dude, you thought
- 44:15you had me, you don't his turtleneck, his leather jacket.
- 44:22Like I am Nick Fury, you can't beat me.
- 44:24You really screwed up this time, but I also love Nick, Fury's
- 44:28like disguise. When you see him in the
- 44:31graveyard, like this is his, oh, yeah.
- 44:33I'm going on a long vacation. Look, he's going into hiding
- 44:37look. I kind of appreciate this.
- 44:39Like, what would you do? If you were known to be dead by
- 44:43everyone? Like, where would you go and
- 44:45start over desert? A really nice desert island
- 44:49because he's clearly got money. Yeah, I'd be Like, I'm gonna go
- 44:53to the Bahamas and say it like a nice resort like one of those
- 44:56little, like, like those Resorts where you can have, like, your
- 44:58own private little like house and, like private beach and
- 45:01stuff. Like, that's what I would do.
- 45:04Sounds nice that or I would like start over and like another
- 45:08country, like New Zealand. That sounds nice.
- 45:11Yeah, we're Frozen. I've been it's like a little too
- 45:14much. I don't actually want to be
- 45:16dead. I'm just saying know if we could
- 45:20do whatever we wanted with our lives.
- 45:23Would we be in New Zealand? Probably we would still podcast
- 45:27for New Zealand. So don't worry too much
- 45:29everyone. We would just be out of the grip
- 45:32of the American government. Yeah.
- 45:35Sorry. I'm really mad right now.
- 45:39Natasha though, she had to do a little stint in the US Congress.
- 45:43So yeah, he has like her politician outfit on and it's
- 45:48still super sick. Yeah, like she does like this It
- 45:52just all black number and then she changes into another sick,
- 45:55almost all black number with this, great leather like suit
- 46:00jacket and just like, oh, white tank top, she knows how to use a
- 46:05tank top. I'm gonna say, yeah.
- 46:07Yes, he does. His all black, or like a dark
- 46:10green. I can't really tell it might be
- 46:12a dark green but also the I think because they're under the
- 46:16trees and might just be reflecting the green either way.
- 46:20I mean, it's beautiful on her. Where is she?
- 46:23She says, she's blown Oliver disguises.
- 46:25So she has to go away for now and I'm like, okay, we'll go
- 46:28like, buying more hoodies, I guess.
- 46:30Yeah, good luck not standing out.
- 46:36I'm shocked, she doesn't die her hair more often, right.
- 46:39I'd be like, just go brunette if you want brunette.
- 46:41No one would notice thank like, blond.
- 46:45She still looks like black widow brunette.
- 46:47She would fit in a lot better. That would make sense.
- 46:50But also Steve Rogers looks great in that brown leather
- 46:55jacket when he's, yes, he does so good.
- 47:00I mean, say Roger Waters, he always looks great in a brown,
- 47:03leather jacket. That's like one of his power
- 47:05suits, you know. Yeah.
- 47:07And Sam, he just has the most boring just jacket on.
- 47:15Yeah, like, Natasha, can you please take this man shopping as
- 47:17well? Like, you know, he wasn't
- 47:20planning on becoming an Avenger, right?
- 47:22Way. So he still has his like youth
- 47:24pastor Wardrobe from earlier in the film.
- 47:27Yeah, he's recycling. He has to do laundry, so I get
- 47:31it. Exactly.
- 47:33And then we're given a little update on everybody.
- 47:36Maria Hill who wasn't this? But very sporadically.
- 47:40She's like trying to get a job at Stark Industries.
- 47:43Looking very professional. Maria Hill is grossly, under
- 47:47used in The Avengers films in the MCS.
- 47:50She is in the his shield show, right?
- 47:53Which is over. I think so.
- 47:55I don't, I don't know. I lost track with that show
- 47:58after a while. I've never stopped, she's not in
- 48:01the first couple Seasons. Oh well then, there you go.
- 48:04It's grossly underused. Hmm.
- 48:07We also have agent 13, who's like, okay I guess I'll go work
- 48:10for the CIA now, right? Well on quote, and then we have
- 48:19crossbones who we haven't really talked about At all.
- 48:22But he's definitely an interesting character.
- 48:25He got a little barbecued real crispy really crispy but he's a
- 48:30great character. Frank Grillo really did such a
- 48:34good job with this character because you at first, you like
- 48:37really like him, I all this guy's a badass, but he's kind of
- 48:40hard to trust. I think he just really brought
- 48:42this character to life and crossbones is a great character
- 48:46from the comics 2. So we get to see him in the next
- 48:50film, which I believe is age of Ultron from this point and yes,
- 48:55great character. Yes, absolutely.
- 48:59We also get a little peek into who at the time, were unseen
- 49:04characters, the Romanoff, 20 not room enough, shoot maximov
- 49:10maximov, the maximoff Twins and their Hydra scientist.
- 49:17Oh we can see Pietro and the Scarlet Witch.
- 49:22For the first time. Hmm.
- 49:24And I just love this little shot of Wanda because she's really
- 49:30giving serious Scarlet. Witch Vibes right now.
- 49:32You know, yes. Absolutely.
- 49:35We always forget from this point to, you know, doctor strange and
- 49:39the middle. She's like a cool, you know,
- 49:41like young hip girl with like some sick outfits.
- 49:44But from the beginning point, a and point B, she is like real
- 49:47scary Scarlet. Witch Vibes.
- 49:49Yeah, absolutely. And I love Hydra has a great
- 49:55sense of style. Like we mentioned this.
- 49:57I think in our first Captain America episode.
- 50:00Oh yeah, Red Skull, had a coolest costumes.
- 50:02It's just without question. These scientists also have great
- 50:06outfits and a fantastic monocle. Like feel like monocles are
- 50:11underused, but they definitely are.
- 50:14I don't understand monocles. I just need to figure out how
- 50:18you get them on your head. I just have a lot of questions
- 50:20we could talk about that. There we can talk about that
- 50:24after but then the very last character we get a little update
- 50:28on is poor Bucky Barnes. He's so sad and Confused just
- 50:35like us. He went to the costume.
- 50:37Exhibition at the Smithsonian, he's really taking in the great
- 50:41costumes designed by Anna be Shepherd.
- 50:43Yeah, and trying to remember his past, he actually does pull off
- 50:49the I'm in hiding. Look here.
- 50:52Yeah, but he does have a good disguise.
- 50:54They should all take this guy's notes from Bucky cuz he just
- 50:57looks like a man. Yeah, absolutely.
- 51:00Should he does? He just looks like a scruffy
- 51:03looking, man, nice. But with that, we have finished
- 51:12Captain America, the Winter Soldier.
- 51:15Spencer. Are you ready for our favorite
- 51:17game? I am hit it.
- 51:20Daniel. The one costume to rule them
- 51:25all. Okay, so my favorite costume,
- 51:34kind of a hard one. Hmm.
- 51:37Yeah, though it's hard. This is your one costume to rule
- 51:43them all Spencer. I really torn between Natasha's
- 51:48Ma look and Steve Rogers. Like revised stealth suit.
- 51:58It's very cool. I don't know.
- 52:00But something's telling me to stick with Natasha small look,
- 52:03because it's so ridiculous. And it makes me laugh just
- 52:06Natasha doesn't know how to dress like a normal person.
- 52:10Okay, that's my one costume, rule them all.
- 52:13It's so funny and it's like, obviously looks great and the
- 52:16costume is perfect. I think Judy Anna really just
- 52:20like, was thinking like Natasha sometimes has a hard time
- 52:24blending in, because she was raised a lot differently than
- 52:28everyone else in all this. These films, you know,
- 52:31absolutely even Steve Rogers had a childhood Natasha did not and
- 52:37so yeah, that's my one costume to rule them all.
- 52:40Great choice, great choice, surprising nobody, my one
- 52:44costume to rule them all, is the classic when Winter Soldier
- 52:48look. I mean, come on this, you think
- 52:52of this look even before you think of Steve Rogers stealth
- 52:57suit? Oh, yeah, this was the iconic.
- 53:00Piece that came out of this movie and nothing else.
- 53:02Deserves to be more iconic from this film.
- 53:05That's just how it is Elizabeth serious when she says one
- 53:08costume to rule them all she means all.
- 53:11Yeah. All of them, all of them.
- 53:15All of them. Might I say the most iconic look
- 53:19of the MCU. She's thrown away.
- 53:22She's throwing it down. Me be well if you all agree with
- 53:30Lisbeth or disagree, feel free to step up, to us and say
- 53:33itself, we have our voicemail number that you could call and
- 53:37leave us your follow-up messages is six two six five one five,
- 53:42one, eight, two, six. One more time is six two six
- 53:45five, one five, one eight, two six.
- 53:47If you agree that the Bucky Barnes costume is the one
- 53:49costume to rule them all. Let us know but if you yeah I'm
- 53:52all costume is better. I'm all ears.
- 53:56You know, I do like to be told I'm right every once in a while.
- 53:59I mean. If you agree with Spencer,
- 54:02that's your choice. If you make the right decision
- 54:07and agree with me, please call in.
- 54:10But in the meantime, get ready for our latest series.
- 54:17Spencer, are you ready for Hawkgirl summer?
- 54:21I have flow already so this next month of episodes, we put
- 54:26together and it doesn't like and a few months, right?
- 54:29It's a long, long, two months, but it kind of was put together
- 54:34by accident and we just kind of looked at it and we're like, oh,
- 54:38we're celebrating hot girl summer this year on the podcast.
- 54:40Yeah. So Elizabeth tell her what our
- 54:44first episode will be, which this is a, now, a long-awaited
- 54:47episode since it was supposed to happen a couple weeks ago.
- 54:51Yes, everybody. We are kicking off.
- 54:53Hot girl, summer, with bridger-teton season 2.
- 55:00That's so funny. Yeah, so we were supposed to do
- 55:03a couple weeks back. Instead, we did our flag means
- 55:06death because of course, Elizabeth putting together all
- 55:09the research for bridger-teton she called me and she was like,
- 55:12yeah, this isn't going to happen yet.
- 55:14We need more time. So it's happening.
- 55:16Now it's happening now and what a more appropriate TV series to
- 55:22kick off this new, this new series of episodes were doing.
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- 58:14It's giving me like Angela Merkel Vibes.
- 58:18The former chancellor of Germany.
- 58:22Yeah. Well, she Chancellor look it up.
- 58:26What makes you forget? What they're for you with
- 58:28anything else? Yeah, former chancellor of
- 58:32Germany. Oh well, I just really know my
- 58:35politics. You do.
- 58:38Okay. But we could cut this out if we
- 58:40have to. But who is the guy in the
- 58:42middle? Not Robert Redford.
- 58:45I don't think honestly, they all look familiar to me.
- 58:50I know like the old white guy, he's in a bunch of stuff.
- 58:53The other two also looks familiar, but I don't know if
- 58:55it's just because I've seen this movie so many times or if I've
- 58:58actually seen them in other So these are something with Marvel
- 59:02movies, is they get like really good like prolific actors to
- 59:08play bit roles. Oh oh, oh okay.
- 59:13I know he is, that's that's a Qin Han.
- 59:19Who was just playing? Okay, wait, Hannah.
- 59:23Give me a second to get my thoughts together on this
- 59:25because I'm still like pulling it up.
- 59:29That is Qin Han in the middle. He was Shang Tsung in Mortal
- 59:33Kombat but he's spent in like a hundred and two things.
- 59:36He was in Independence Day, he was obviously in Captain
- 59:40America, he was a narrow, he's in the Dark Knight are.
- 59:45Oh yeah, he's an arrow. It's an arrow, he plays Frank
- 59:48Chen and then it that's probably where I know him from them and
- 59:52The Dark Knight. This is where I really think I
- 59:54know him. He plays loud and a dark night.
- 59:57I mean, I probably know him from that.
- 59:58That and arrow, right? Dare you could call this if you
- 1:00:01think it's uninteresting but I just really have to solve this
- 1:00:05mystery.