Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Julia Molchanova on Escaping Jeffrey Epstein’s Cult-Like World (Part 1) (9/8/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. When it comes to survivors of Jeffrey Epstein,
- 0:08Speaker 1: there have been many that have come forward. But the
- 0:12Speaker 1: vast majority of women who were abused by Jeffrey Epstein
- 0:16Speaker 1: still have not told their story. And a lot of
- 0:21Speaker 1: these women come from places like Eastern Europe. And it's
- 0:26Speaker 1: very difficult for them to come forward And talk about
- 0:29Speaker 1: what happened to them. And of course that's due to
- 0:32Speaker 1: societal pressure. And also going against very powerful people in
- 0:37Speaker 1: a place like, oh, I don't know, Latvia or Estonia
- 0:41Speaker 1: or Russia is probably not the best idea. So when
- 0:47Speaker 1: we talk about the girls with no names, we're talking
- 0:50Speaker 1: about these girls from Eastern Europe and everywhere else in between.
- 0:57Speaker 1: And in this episode, we're going to be hearing from
- 0:59Speaker 1: this woman named Julia Makanova, who was 22 years old
- 1:04Speaker 1: when she first met Epstein, and who is now telling
- 1:07Speaker 1: her story for the first time. So today, we have
- 1:11Speaker 1: an article from the Wall Street Journal and the headline,
- 1:16Speaker 1: How One Woman Was Caught in Epstein's Cult and Escaped.
- 1:19Speaker 1: This article was authored by Khadija Safdar. Early in 2019,
- 1:24Speaker 1: Julia Makanova Malkinova opened a credit monitoring app on her phone.
- 1:31Speaker 1: It showed credit cards and spending that she didn't recognize.
- 1:35Speaker 1: She had spent years as one of the young women,
- 1:37Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, called his assistants. A cover of Malkinova said
- 1:41Speaker 1: he used to hide his sexual abuse. She started to
- 1:45Speaker 1: suspect that Epstein was also using accounts set up in
- 1:48Speaker 1: her name for his own purposes and decided to challenge
- 1:51Speaker 1: him for the first time. And that all tracks to
- 1:55Speaker 1: Because once Jeffrey Epstein was in control of their immigration status,
- 2:00Speaker 1: then he was in control of everything they had going on.
- 2:03Speaker 1: And don't think for a second that's not a factor.
- 2:06Speaker 1: I don't think people understand how lucky we are to
- 2:08Speaker 1: live in the United States. Even with all the problems,
- 2:13Speaker 1: with all the bullshit, with all the nonsense, and with
- 2:16Speaker 1: the terrible leadership, we're still lucky as hell. And I
- 2:19Speaker 1: don't say that as somebody who's never left the United States.
- 2:22Speaker 1: I've been through Mexico. I've been through Central America. I've
- 2:25Speaker 1: been to South America. I've been to Brazil. I've been
- 2:29Speaker 1: to favelas. And let me tell you, the vast majority
- 2:32Speaker 1: of Americans have no idea how good they have it. Now,
- 2:36Speaker 1: that doesn't mean everything's perfect. Far from. But all you
- 2:40Speaker 1: have to do is take a quick trip down south
- 2:43Speaker 1: and you'll see real poverty. And I'm not even talking
- 2:46Speaker 1: about like Tijuana. I'm talking about real poverty. Honduras, Guatemala, Peru.
- 2:54Speaker 1: And then you have somebody like Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn
- 2:57Speaker 1: Maxwell or Jean-Luc Brunel show up in a place like
- 2:59Speaker 1: that and they offer you a brand new life. These
- 3:03Speaker 1: girls are going to try and do whatever they can
- 3:05Speaker 1: to get out of the circumstances they're in. Jeffrey Epstein
- 3:10Speaker 1: knew that and he used it as a tool. I
- 3:15Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable to discuss the future. Malkanova wrote to Epstein
- 3:19Speaker 1: on April 4th, 2019, sweat soaking into her shirt. as
- 3:24Speaker 1: she nervously typed the message. She told Epstein she didn't
- 3:27Speaker 1: know anything about an entity that he'd set up in
- 3:29Speaker 1: her name, and that she wanted to have my normal life.
- 3:33Speaker 1: In interviews with the Wall Street Journal, Malkinova publicly discussed
- 3:37Speaker 1: her ordeal for the first time, revealing that she was
- 3:40Speaker 1: the Lee Jane Doe plaintiff in a class action lawsuit
- 3:43Speaker 1: against Bank of America. And good for her. I'm glad
- 3:48Speaker 1: she's getting a bag. Anybody who was abused by Jeffrey Epstein...
- 3:53Speaker 1: or his associates, should get paid. That's not even a discussion.
- 3:58Speaker 1: I mean, that's the only ramifications that we've seen so far.
- 4:02Speaker 1: And if anyone's going to benefit from it, it should
- 4:04Speaker 1: be the women who were abused. And I've said from
- 4:07Speaker 1: the beginning that the vast majority of this money should
- 4:11Speaker 1: go to the survivors. And the United States government, for
- 4:14Speaker 1: all the bullshit they were involved in, they should waive
- 4:17Speaker 1: the taxes on any of the estate money that's being
- 4:20Speaker 1: pieced off to the survivors. Because at the end of
- 4:23Speaker 1: the day, they're the ones who suffered. And they're the
- 4:26Speaker 1: ones who should get these funds. Do you know how
- 4:30Speaker 1: expensive therapy is? Putting your life back together? Not exactly
- 4:35Speaker 1: something you can do with a minimum wage job. I'm
- 4:39Speaker 1: going forward to prove that women have a voice and
- 4:42Speaker 1: the ability to rebuild themselves, move forward, and do good
- 4:45Speaker 1: things in life, said the 37-year-old, who recently started a
- 4:48Speaker 1: fashion brand and plans to advocate for crime victims. The
- 4:52Speaker 1: lawsuit filed last year said Jane Doe was abused by
- 4:55Speaker 1: Epstein for several years and held accounts at Bank of
- 4:59Speaker 1: America that Epstein used to facilitate his sex trafficking. The
- 5:03Speaker 1: suit accused the bank of ignoring suspicious transactions. Oh, there's
- 5:07Speaker 1: no doubt that they did. Every single bank he banked with,
- 5:11Speaker 1: they were all up to the same bullshit. And that's
- 5:14Speaker 1: why every single bank that's been involved here has ended
- 5:18Speaker 1: up paying out a gigantic amount of money because they're
- 5:21Speaker 1: all culpable. Just like I've told you from the very beginning.
- 5:27Speaker 1: If you're looking for a boogeyman here, it's the financial sector.
- 5:30Speaker 1: And let me be crystal clear. I don't mean your
- 5:32Speaker 1: local bank teller or the local branch manager or even
- 5:37Speaker 1: like a VP or whatever. I'm talking about the movers
- 5:39Speaker 1: and shakers. People like Jess Daly, Mary Erdos, people like
- 5:45Speaker 1: Jamie Dimon. Those are the people that are really in
- 5:49Speaker 1: control of everything. Hugh controls the purse, controls the day, right?
- 5:55Speaker 1: And where do you think all these people are getting money? Politicians, etc.
- 5:59Speaker 1: You think it just grows on trees? Or are they
- 6:01Speaker 1: going to banks to get it? Malkinova said the legal
- 6:06Speaker 1: process was grueling, including sharing private medical history, but she
- 6:10Speaker 1: said she feels good knowing it may have spared other victims.
- 6:14Speaker 1: The man was supposed to be in jail. It was
- 6:16Speaker 1: the system that failed us, she said. And if I
- 6:19Speaker 1: was somebody that was abused by Epstein... after the first
- 6:22Speaker 1: time around, I'd be pissed. And I'd be suing the
- 6:26Speaker 1: federal government. 100%. Because she's not wrong. They failed. Their
- 6:32Speaker 1: job was to stop Jeffrey Epstein. And instead, they helped
- 6:36Speaker 1: him out. A federal judge recently approved $ 72. 5 million settlement
- 6:42Speaker 1: with Bank of America that'll be distributed to dozens of
- 6:46Speaker 1: Epstein victims. The judge said the case brought actual justice,
- 6:49Speaker 1: although partial, For the women. Yeah, financial justice. But what
- 6:54Speaker 1: about the people that made the decision to onboard Epstein?
- 6:58Speaker 1: What about the people that ignored all of the transactions?
- 7:02Speaker 1: Never any penalties for them, right? Oh, we'll pay a fine,
- 7:05Speaker 1: but we'll keep it moving. Do you really think $ 72
- 7:08Speaker 1: million means anything to Bank of America? Brad Edwards, an
- 7:13Speaker 1: attorney who represented Malkinova and other Epstein victims in the lawsuit...
- 7:17Speaker 1: said she has every reason to protect her privacy and
- 7:20Speaker 1: move forward quietly with her life. Instead, she chose to
- 7:23Speaker 1: stand up, not only for herself, but for hundreds of
- 7:26Speaker 1: women whose names the world may never know. And look,
- 7:30Speaker 1: there are going to be so many women that never
- 7:33Speaker 1: come forward. That's something I've told you from the very beginning.
- 7:38Speaker 1: When you're talking about over a thousand women, I mean
- 7:41Speaker 1: how many of them unfortunately have passed on? How many
- 7:45Speaker 1: of them don't want anything to do with this story
- 7:47Speaker 1: ever again. And how many of them are still terrified?
- 7:53Speaker 1: Epstein's sexual exploitation didn't end with his 2008 conviction in Florida,
- 7:57Speaker 1: as many of his famous associates later said they believed,
- 8:00Speaker 1: but continued until his second arrest in 2019. They all knew, stop.
- 8:07Speaker 1: The difference is, Epstein stopped going after young girls, underage,
- 8:11Speaker 1: and instead started bringing girls in, underage or otherwise. From
- 8:15Speaker 1: other countries. He just flipped the script. And that's because
- 8:18Speaker 1: he had way too much exposure. Doing it locally. So
- 8:21Speaker 1: he had to bring in girls from. Eastern Europe and
- 8:24Speaker 1: Central America. And other far flung places. Because he knew
- 8:28Speaker 1: nobody cared. He knew there wasn't going to be any.
- 8:32Speaker 1: You know. Detective Rakari. He knew there wasn't going to be.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Any big investigation. Into what's going on with girls from Russia.
- 8:41Speaker 1: The truth is. Nobody cared. And Jeffrey Epstein knew it.
- 8:46Speaker 1: So that's why he started bringing these girls in. Because
- 8:49Speaker 1: he knew he can get away with it. After 2008,
- 8:52Speaker 1: he targeted young women who were over 18 like Malkanova,
- 8:56Speaker 1: but looked like teenagers, often seizing on vulnerabilities to draw
- 8:59Speaker 1: them in. Facts. 100%. And I told you that at
- 9:03Speaker 1: the time. Like, this is not new to us. We've
- 9:06Speaker 1: been talking about this for how long? Jeffrey Epstein was
- 9:10Speaker 1: a lot of things. But he most certainly was crafty.
- 9:13Speaker 1: And he was shrewd. And when you couple all of
- 9:15Speaker 1: that with all of the money he had, the power,
- 9:18Speaker 1: the protection, he was a very, very dangerous man. Malkinova
- 9:23Speaker 1: described how Epstein's methods became sophisticated after he was caught
- 9:27Speaker 1: in Florida getting sexual massages from teenage girls. Epstein registered
- 9:31Speaker 1: an LLC in Malkinova's name, presenting the business to her
- 9:35Speaker 1: as her own design company, but she said he used
- 9:38Speaker 1: it for his own activities. He was a very manipulative man,
- 9:42Speaker 1: she said, It was an illusion that you have something.
- 9:46Speaker 1: In reality, I had nothing, and it was only beneficial
- 9:49Speaker 1: for him. Yo, anybody under the illusion that Jeffrey Epstein
- 9:53Speaker 1: cared about anybody else besides himself is crazy. This is
- 9:58Speaker 1: the most one-way dude in the history of history. of
- 10:00Speaker 1: one-way people. You know, there's a lot of people out
- 10:03Speaker 1: there that only care about themselves. But Epstein took it
- 10:06Speaker 1: to the next level. There was nothing this man wouldn't
- 10:10Speaker 1: do if he wanted something. And there was no life
- 10:15Speaker 1: he would not ruin to get there. Malkinova said she
- 10:19Speaker 1: was 22 when she first met Epstein in December of
- 10:22Speaker 1: 2011 on a trip to New York. She was living
- 10:25Speaker 1: in Russia at the time and spoke little English. He
- 10:28Speaker 1: spotted her on the street near Barney's on Madison Avenue,
- 10:32Speaker 1: said something about her blue eyes, and directed her to
- 10:35Speaker 1: his nearby townhouse as if he was pointing out a
- 10:37Speaker 1: tourist attraction. Well, imagine she comes from Russia, has no
- 10:41Speaker 1: money really, doesn't really speak English, then this dude shows
- 10:44Speaker 1: up with this townhouse. She must think she hit gold, right?
- 10:48Speaker 1: oh man, Victoria's Secret, big time townhouse, this guy knows,
- 10:52Speaker 1: the guy from MC squared, we're in business. Until they're not. Inside,
- 10:58Speaker 1: there were several people, and through a young Russian woman
- 11:01Speaker 1: who translated for him, Epstein invited her to breakfast the
- 11:04Speaker 1: next morning. When she returned, he asked a steady stream
- 11:07Speaker 1: of questions, all of them translated by the woman. What
- 11:11Speaker 1: did she want? What did she dream of doing? Malkinova,
- 11:15Speaker 1: a design student in Russia, told Epstein she was interested
- 11:18Speaker 1: in fashion design. Epstein said she offered to help her
- 11:21Speaker 1: enroll at the Fashion Institute of Technology in New York City.
- 11:25Speaker 1: That was the hook, she said. Back in Russia, she
- 11:28Speaker 1: signed up for extra classes to learn sewing in preparation
- 11:31Speaker 1: for a fit program. The money for the sewing classes
- 11:35Speaker 1: came from Epstein. And this is one of his favorite moves.
- 11:40Speaker 1: What do you want to do with your life? Oh,
- 11:42Speaker 1: I can help you with that. And the trap is set.
- 11:45Speaker 1: And unfortunately... A lot of these women got caught up.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Epstein lured her to New York in January of 2012
- 11:51Speaker 1: to show her fit and put her in an apartment
- 11:54Speaker 1: he controlled where he kept many of his victims. On
- 11:57Speaker 1: this trip, he sexually abused her for the first time.
- 12:00Speaker 1: When she expressed her discomfort, she said he told her
- 12:04Speaker 1: that the sexual openness was part of American culture and
- 12:07Speaker 1: that she'd have to change to assimilate. Oh yeah, part
- 12:11Speaker 1: of American culture for us to molest you when you
- 12:13Speaker 1: come over here. What a fucking embarrassment. What a fucking
- 12:17Speaker 1: black eye. And the fact that our feckless ass do-nothing
- 12:21Speaker 1: government knew about this for years and did nothing about
- 12:24Speaker 1: it is just disgusting. So people can look for foreign
- 12:27Speaker 1: boogeymen all they want, but until we have our yard
- 12:31Speaker 1: cleaned up right here in America, how can we look
- 12:34Speaker 1: over the wall and cry about the neighbor's yard? And
- 12:38Speaker 1: that's why I say until we fix this problem, until
- 12:40Speaker 1: we address it, then nothing else even really matters, right?
- 12:44Speaker 1: How can anyone take the institution seriously? How can anyone
- 12:48Speaker 1: take the government seriously if they refuse to address this?
- 12:53Speaker 1: What really closed the trap, she said, was a trip
- 12:55Speaker 1: to Paris the next month. She went there with her
- 12:58Speaker 1: boyfriend in the middle of an argument with her boyfriend
- 13:00Speaker 1: that turned abusive. She got scared and texted Epstein, who
- 13:04Speaker 1: happened to be in Paris too. Epstein helped her escape
- 13:07Speaker 1: her boyfriend and put her on a flight home to Russia.
- 13:10Speaker 1: All right, folks, we're going to wrap up episode one
- 13:13Speaker 1: right here. And in the next episode, we're going to
- 13:15Speaker 1: pick up with It Was Like a Cult. All the
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