Latest / Crime Stories with Nancy Grace / 9-year-old girl goes missing from her bed. Diana Alvarez remains found.
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- 1:09Speaker 1: all of you moms, dad's, grandparents, uncle's aunts. Imagine your
- 1:15Speaker 1: nine year old child goes to sleep at night on
- 1:19Speaker 1: a Saturday night. But sometime in the wee early morning
- 1:23Speaker 1: hours of Sunday, as you're getting up to go to church,
- 1:27Speaker 1: you find out your nine year old girl is gone,
- 1:32Speaker 1: gone from the home you frantically search the home, the yard,
- 1:35Speaker 1: the trees behind your home, the neighborhood, and finally call
- 1:39Speaker 1: nine one one. What happened to Diana. I'm Nancy Grace.
- 1:45Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. To all of you parents
- 2:05Speaker 1: out there that have young children like I do. Mine
- 2:08Speaker 1: have just turned twelve. I remember when they were nine
- 2:11Speaker 1: years old. I mean, I still think of them as babies,
- 2:14Speaker 1: and they remind me every day that they're not babies,
- 2:16Speaker 1: and they're right. But at nine years old, you will
- 2:20Speaker 1: walk up to anybody at Walmart or the grocery store.
- 2:24Speaker 1: You'll wave at people on the street, you might walk
- 2:27Speaker 1: up to a car nine years old. That's how old
- 2:33Speaker 1: this little girl, Dianna Alvarez was when she went missing.
- 2:40Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. Thank you for being with us here
- 2:43Speaker 1: at Crime Stories on Fox Nation and Sirius X one.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Eleven children go missing every day in our country, our America,
- 2:54Speaker 1: not some third world nation where you may think they
- 2:58Speaker 1: don't have adequate police forces. Here, they go missing and
- 3:02Speaker 1: they are murdered every day. This little girl, Diana Alvarez
- 3:08Speaker 1: goes missing. What happened? Take a listen now to our
- 3:13Speaker 1: friends at wp e C CBS twelve and now the
- 3:18Speaker 1: search is on for a missing nine year old girl
- 3:20Speaker 1: and Fort Myers in that area. Stop what you're doing
- 3:23Speaker 1: and take a good look at this picture here. Diana
- 3:25Speaker 1: Alvarez was last seen wearing a short sleeve shirt and shorts.
- 3:29Speaker 1: She has a black hair and brown eyes. If you
- 3:31Speaker 1: know anything, if you see her, please call the police immediately. Guys,
- 3:35Speaker 1: you are hearing news anchor Eric Robbie the moment that
- 3:40Speaker 1: Diana Alvarez goes missing just nine years old with me
- 3:44Speaker 1: an all star panel led by our special guest, my
- 3:49Speaker 1: longtime friend and colleague, Mark Class, founder of Class Kids Foundation.
- 3:55Speaker 1: He devoted his life to finding missing people, specifically children,
- 4:02Speaker 1: after his girl Polly was abducted and killed. Also with me,
- 4:08Speaker 1: were now a criminal defense attorney out of the LA area,
- 4:11Speaker 1: Troy Slayton, Bobby to Come and former special agent with
- 4:15Speaker 1: the FBI, screenwriter Criminal Minds, Professor Forensics Jacksonville State University,
- 4:21Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, Joseph Scott Morgan, psychiatrist,
- 4:27Speaker 1: and joining me from the Atlanta Jurisdiction, doctor Angela Arnold
- 4:31Speaker 1: and first to lead news anchor Orlando's Morning News w
- 4:36Speaker 1: DBO Ray Caputo Ray at the beginning, where do we
- 4:42Speaker 1: think Angela was last seen before she went missing at
- 4:47Speaker 1: a shopping mall, grocery store playground where we was little Diana, Nancy,
- 4:51Speaker 1: as we're talking about, she was last seated in San
- 4:54Speaker 1: Carlos Park. That's southwest Florida's in the Fort Myers area.
- 4:58Speaker 1: I know was a lot of farming there, and she
- 5:00Speaker 1: was seen in her own house. She just like any
- 5:03Speaker 1: other family going to bed at night. You know, you
- 5:05Speaker 1: get your ducks in a row, the kids brush their teeth,
- 5:07Speaker 1: Little Diana, she goes off to bed and it's you know,
- 5:11Speaker 1: not hours later that mom and dad noticed that that
- 5:14Speaker 1: something is not right when they can't find her. Wait
- 5:17Speaker 1: a minute, let me understand this. She started off talking
- 5:19Speaker 1: about I thought you said San Carlos Park, But you're
- 5:23Speaker 1: saying she was at her home when she was last
- 5:27Speaker 1: saying alive at night, getting ready for bed? Is that right?
- 5:32Speaker 1: Ray Kiputa w DBS, We're right, san Carlos Park. My
- 5:35Speaker 1: understanding is like the community, not in natural park. But yeah,
- 5:38Speaker 1: she's in her She's in her home, Nancy, just like
- 5:40Speaker 1: any other child getting ready for bed. Any other nine
- 5:42Speaker 1: year old child, you know, probably has her pajamas on,
- 5:46Speaker 1: maybe watching her tablet or her phone or doing you know.
- 5:49Speaker 1: And it was that innocuous said she was in her room,
- 5:52Speaker 1: and and that was it. That was the last time
- 5:54Speaker 1: Diana was because you know, when you said San Carlos Park,
- 5:59Speaker 1: I thought you meant a part. But Saint Carlo Park
- 6:02Speaker 1: is actually a part of Fort Myers, Florida, as Brooklyn
- 6:07Speaker 1: is a part of New York. It's the borough of
- 6:09Speaker 1: New York City, New York. And or Buckhead is a
- 6:14Speaker 1: part of Atlanta, Hollywood, a part of la That's what
- 6:19Speaker 1: you mean by Saint Crolo Park. Now that she was
- 6:21Speaker 1: in a park, Mark Class Founder, Class Kids Foundation, Mark,
- 6:28Speaker 1: this is a whole another animal. When you were talking
- 6:32Speaker 1: about a child missing from school like Kirron Horman or
- 6:39Speaker 1: leaving school or as you've pointed out to me so
- 6:41Speaker 1: many times, Mark, and you're right, the huge percentage of
- 6:44Speaker 1: children that go missing en route to the bus stop
- 6:47Speaker 1: or en route to school and home major major hotspot
- 6:52Speaker 1: for child abductions. When a child is taken from their
- 6:55Speaker 1: own home like Elizabeth Smart or Helly I means that's
- 7:00Speaker 1: a whole another psychopathy. Mark Class explain, well, there are
- 7:05Speaker 1: approximately twenty one hundred children reported missing in the United
- 7:09Speaker 1: States on a daily basis. But oh wait wait, I
- 7:14Speaker 1: know everybody gets mad when I interrupt. I just got
- 7:18Speaker 1: to let that soak in for a moment. Two thousand
- 7:22Speaker 1: one hundred children go missing every day in the United States,
- 7:29Speaker 1: in our country with the best police forces the FBI,
- 7:34Speaker 1: in the world. Two thousand one hundred children go missing
- 7:40Speaker 1: every day in the US, and this little nine year
- 7:42Speaker 1: old girl, Diana is one of them. Sorry, Mark, I
- 7:47Speaker 1: just had to let that sink in what you just said.
- 7:49Speaker 1: Go ahead, sure, and they actually to get back to
- 7:53Speaker 1: what you said about school, About a third of predatory
- 7:56Speaker 1: abduction attempts occur on school route, and I think that's
- 8:01Speaker 1: something that really needs to sink into people as well. Now,
- 8:04Speaker 1: the vast majority of these children that are reported missing
- 8:07Speaker 1: are recovered or found within a very short amount of time.
- 8:12Speaker 1: Diana alive, of course, but Diana, like much of a
- 8:17Speaker 1: smart like Haley Cummings, like my daughter PAULI, was taken
- 8:21Speaker 1: from her home and that then, hopefully will narrow the
- 8:27Speaker 1: population of potential suspects down to people who might have
- 8:32Speaker 1: some knowledge of that home. I mean, just think about
- 8:35Speaker 1: somebody breaking into your home and being able to be
- 8:38Speaker 1: quiet enough to get into a little girl's bedroom and
- 8:41Speaker 1: take that little girl. I've got this place so stripped out.
- 8:48Speaker 1: If I breathe, an alarm goes off. Now I've been that.
- 8:54Speaker 1: That was a dear memory for me, for you to
- 8:57Speaker 1: be in our home and to meet my children, Mark Class, Mark,
- 9:01Speaker 1: I want to go back. And you're saying so much.
- 9:04Speaker 1: It's like drinking from the fire hydrant. That I want
- 9:06Speaker 1: to focus on. Because when you have a home kidnap
- 9:11Speaker 1: that somebody you're saying is familiar with the home that
- 9:15Speaker 1: can come in undetected, get the child and leave. Now,
- 9:18Speaker 1: wait a minute. You've got Elizabeth Smart, perfect example. Her
- 9:23Speaker 1: mother and father were kind enough to give a day
- 9:26Speaker 1: laborer a job helping get back on his feet. He
- 9:30Speaker 1: had a knowledge of the home he took Elizabeth Mayhe
- 9:34Speaker 1: Rotten Hell. Then you've got somebody like Isabella Selice remember her,
- 9:38Speaker 1: Mark Class And it was right. I believe an acquaintance
- 9:44Speaker 1: of the family had been in the home before. So
- 9:48Speaker 1: I'm giving examples to support what you're saying. Now, tell
- 9:54Speaker 1: me more of your thoughts, Smart Class, about when a
- 9:57Speaker 1: child goes missing from the home. Well, it's not a
- 10:00Speaker 1: done deal that it's somebody that knows the home and
- 10:02Speaker 1: knows the family, because obviously the person that stole my
- 10:06Speaker 1: daughter Paulie had never been in that home before and
- 10:09Speaker 1: had only been stalking her and and they just made
- 10:13Speaker 1: a bold move and came in and got her. But
- 10:16Speaker 1: it does hopefully narrow down that population to individuals who
- 10:20Speaker 1: may be familiar with the home in one way or another.
- 10:24Speaker 1: And that's a good starting point. I mean, that's something
- 10:27Speaker 1: for law enforcements then to be able to take and
- 10:30Speaker 1: pursue the possible suspects. Time Stories with Nancy Grace, guys
- 10:51Speaker 1: are talking about a missing girl, Diana Alvarez, who goes
- 10:55Speaker 1: missing from her own home. And again, thank you for
- 10:59Speaker 1: being with us year at Fox Nation and Series x
- 11:02Speaker 1: M one eleven as we delve into the disappearance of
- 11:06Speaker 1: this nine year old little girl with me an all
- 11:09Speaker 1: star panel. Right now, take a listen to our friends
- 11:12Speaker 1: at WFTX Fox four. This is Stephanie Chineco detectives knocking,
- 11:19Speaker 1: going door to door trying to get more information. Now,
- 11:21Speaker 1: I also spoke to the family just moments ago, and
- 11:24Speaker 1: they tell me they're going to have a search with
- 11:27Speaker 1: friends and family, and that's gonna be happening later tonight
- 11:29Speaker 1: on at seven o'clock. They're actually gonna be searching the
- 11:31Speaker 1: wooded area behind the house. That's where they're gonna start,
- 11:34Speaker 1: and they're also going to be looking at grocery stores
- 11:37Speaker 1: and gas stations along I seventy five. They just want
- 11:40Speaker 1: answers to this mysterious disappearance. With every click, every view,
- 11:45Speaker 1: and every share on social media, Nancy Martinez hopes someone
- 11:49Speaker 1: will spot her nine year old niece and bring her
- 11:52Speaker 1: back to her family. We haven't been able to get
- 11:54Speaker 1: any sleep whatsoever. We've been up all night thinking of
- 11:57Speaker 1: what we can possibly do to help. Diana alb As
- 12:00Speaker 1: was home early Sunday morning before she went missing. When
- 12:03Speaker 1: the family woke up for church, they noticed she was gone.
- 12:06Speaker 1: Her aunt is sure her niece didn't run away. If
- 12:09Speaker 1: you're a runaway, your first instance is to grab some clothes,
- 12:13Speaker 1: put it in the bag, and you know, set out.
- 12:15Speaker 1: But she didn't take water, she didn't take anything. This
- 12:17Speaker 1: little girl goes missing on an early early wee hours
- 12:21Speaker 1: of a Sunday morning from her own home and just
- 12:24Speaker 1: hearing that from WFT Spots four. I learned a lot.
- 12:28Speaker 1: I learned that they live in the suburbs. I learned
- 12:31Speaker 1: that there's a wooded area behind their home, which opens
- 12:34Speaker 1: up a whole plath or of possibilities. I've been looking
- 12:37Speaker 1: at Fort Myers Fort Myers County seat commercial center of
- 12:41Speaker 1: Lee County, Florida, US, and all the way back in
- 12:45Speaker 1: two ten there was sixty two thousand people there. I'm
- 12:49Speaker 1: sure that that has probably doubled by now two around
- 12:53Speaker 1: ninety to one hundred thousand. Fort Myers gateway to Southwest
- 12:58Speaker 1: Florida region, major tourist destination, and it's right there on
- 13:04Speaker 1: I seventy five, which goes from Florida all the way
- 13:09Speaker 1: to New York City. That means to you, Bobby chicone
- 13:13Speaker 1: FBI former special agent, that if somebody has her in
- 13:18Speaker 1: the car, they're going at least sixty mph I seventy five.
- 13:22Speaker 1: That's how fast you can get away with a child
- 13:25Speaker 1: in your car if the child's disabled. That's right. And
- 13:28Speaker 1: I've traveled that route from Atlanta where I used to
- 13:30Speaker 1: go to college, to Tampa where I used to live.
- 13:32Speaker 1: And you know, that's why it's important to get an
- 13:35Speaker 1: amber alert out that's why we have that system, and
- 13:38Speaker 1: you try to get information out to the public as
- 13:40Speaker 1: quick as possible. Where there's a transit system like a
- 13:43Speaker 1: highway or something like that that makes it easier for
- 13:46Speaker 1: someone to take a child and get away from that
- 13:49Speaker 1: area as quick as possible. And so you know, I
- 13:51Speaker 1: remember traveling I seventy five on that route and seeing
- 13:55Speaker 1: amber alerts and things. So I think, I think it's imperative.
- 13:58Speaker 1: And that's why the system has been created in just
- 14:00Speaker 1: now because of exactly the situation that you described to
- 14:03Speaker 1: Joseph's Got Morgan, Professor forensics, Jacksonville State University and author
- 14:07Speaker 1: of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon Joe Scott. When
- 14:12Speaker 1: you've got a kidnap from the home, you've got to
- 14:15Speaker 1: look at all sorts of forensic evidence. We know she
- 14:19Speaker 1: didn't take anything with her, which tells me she was
- 14:23Speaker 1: not a runaway. I don't know, and I'm circling back
- 14:25Speaker 1: to Mark on this in a moment. Why every time
- 14:28Speaker 1: a child goes missing. We just saw it in gannon stalk.
- 14:31Speaker 1: First thing, they're a runaway, they're not runaways. I have
- 14:36Speaker 1: had so many knock down dragouts with police for labeling
- 14:40Speaker 1: a missing child as a runaway. But that's a whole
- 14:43Speaker 1: other can of worms. Joseph Scott Morgan forensics at the home.
- 14:47Speaker 1: What do you do? What are you looking for? I'd
- 14:49Speaker 1: like to talk about screens, windows, screens where people open
- 14:53Speaker 1: their windows and there's a windows screen there. You can
- 14:57Speaker 1: tell by looking at the screen if whether it was
- 15:01Speaker 1: cut from the outside or from the inside out, which
- 15:05Speaker 1: means it's stage. I mean, you've got to look for
- 15:07Speaker 1: so many things. Joe Scott, Yeah, you do, and you're
- 15:09Speaker 1: kind of walking around blind. The first you know, your
- 15:12Speaker 1: your central thesis or your central of thought, and this
- 15:17Speaker 1: whole thing is that you've got a missing child and
- 15:20Speaker 1: you have no idea where they are. So you have
- 15:23Speaker 1: to look at clues, for clues at the scene. In
- 15:25Speaker 1: this particular case, you'd want to look for points of entry.
- 15:29Speaker 1: You know, how how did someone get you know, this
- 15:32Speaker 1: is our most precious possession that we have, or our children,
- 15:35Speaker 1: and so how would an individual be able to get
- 15:39Speaker 1: access to a child in their home? Did they come
- 15:43Speaker 1: in through a window, as you talked about, was a
- 15:46Speaker 1: screen clipped? Did they tear it away and then opened
- 15:49Speaker 1: the open the window? Was the glass knocked in? Was
- 15:52Speaker 1: it knocked out as the stage also were they're forced
- 15:55Speaker 1: entry like tool marks on the doors to see if
- 15:58Speaker 1: someone had pride their way into this area. And I think, finally,
- 16:01Speaker 1: and probably one of the most ghastly things that we
- 16:03Speaker 1: have to think about, is there a sign of struggle?
- 16:05Speaker 1: Is there some evidence at the scene where maybe we
- 16:09Speaker 1: have blood evidence or something like this to show that
- 16:11Speaker 1: maybe she put up a fight at that point in
- 16:13Speaker 1: time before she left. I'm looking at this little girl's
- 16:17Speaker 1: picture and she looks like she's in front of a
- 16:19Speaker 1: softball field or something of that sort. She's got the biggest,
- 16:28Speaker 1: most beautiful smile, and her hair is long, dark brown.
- 16:33Speaker 1: She's got an a side pony coming down and cute
- 16:38Speaker 1: little pierced ears, earrings in just gorgeous child with the
- 16:46Speaker 1: world in front of her. And I don't understand the
- 16:50Speaker 1: thinking behind someone that would creep into a family's home.
- 16:54Speaker 1: Is they are all asleep in the wee hours of
- 16:57Speaker 1: a Sunday morning and take a nine year old little girl.
- 17:01Speaker 1: It happened in Elizabeth Smart, it happened with Mark Class
- 17:05Speaker 1: daughter Polly, and now to Diana Alvarez, so Mark Class
- 17:10Speaker 1: circling back to you way in well, there's a sexual
- 17:15Speaker 1: component involved. Always when an adult man, and we assume
- 17:19Speaker 1: that this is going to be an adult man steals
- 17:21Speaker 1: a little girl, they've got some kind of a fixation
- 17:24Speaker 1: on them, and they they they want to possess them,
- 17:29Speaker 1: they want to have them, and they want no one
- 17:31Speaker 1: else to have them. It's it's it's sick, it's perverted,
- 17:35Speaker 1: and it's core. It's it's absolutely evil. An evil comes
- 17:40Speaker 1: unfortunately in many forms. Now you said something interesting again,
- 17:44Speaker 1: Mark class, someone fixated on a nine year old girl.
- 17:48Speaker 1: Just let me just take that between this panel. Every
- 17:53Speaker 1: phrase is full of evidentiary value. To doctor Angela Arnold,
- 18:00Speaker 1: well known psychiatrist in the Atlanta area. Doctor Arnold, what
- 18:05Speaker 1: mind adult male? And I'm saying a mail It can
- 18:08Speaker 1: of course be a woman, but staggeringly, statistically it's a man.
- 18:17Speaker 1: What that's correct mindset? Would have a fixation an adult
- 18:21Speaker 1: mail on a nine year old little girl doesn't even
- 18:26Speaker 1: wear a bra, hasn't even hit puberty. For Pete's sake. Well, unfortunately,
- 18:30Speaker 1: I think that we first of all, nanza males are
- 18:35Speaker 1: statistically the perpetrators of sexual abuse. Okay, that's known across
- 18:43Speaker 1: that's known across lines We did a lot of research
- 18:46Speaker 1: on abuse and sexual abuse when I was at MWA University,
- 18:52Speaker 1: and unfortunately knowing that these people do not have the
- 18:58Speaker 1: same kind of minds that were, they're sick, they're pedophiles,
- 19:04Speaker 1: and so that's what they can look at a small
- 19:08Speaker 1: child and have some sort of sexual pleasure from that person.
- 19:12Speaker 1: And that's why you, well, I will have to be
- 19:16Speaker 1: very careful who your children are around, don't you. Oh,
- 19:21Speaker 1: you're sending a chill down my spine. I'm thinking back
- 19:24Speaker 1: as fast as I can about every teacher, every Scout leader,
- 19:27Speaker 1: every piano instructor that have ever been around the children.
- 19:31Speaker 1: To Troy Slayton, famous criminal defense law, you're joining me
- 19:35Speaker 1: from LA famous because he gets a lot of his
- 19:38Speaker 1: clients off the hook. Troy Slayton, I know you're gonna
- 19:42Speaker 1: hate this because it involves a lot of your clients.
- 19:45Speaker 1: But the first thing the cops do is you can
- 19:48Speaker 1: look at crime online and find it who are the
- 19:50Speaker 1: known sex offenders, the registered sex offenders in that zip code.
- 19:55Speaker 1: That's the first place the cops are gonna look when
- 19:58Speaker 1: a child is taken out of the I bet that
- 20:01Speaker 1: burns you up that your clients are always looked at first, well,
- 20:05Speaker 1: just because somebody committed a crime at one point doesn't
- 20:09Speaker 1: mean that they're the offender in another crime. But I
- 20:13Speaker 1: think that all the experts really put their finger on
- 20:16Speaker 1: the nose of this case. This is a sickness, and
- 20:20Speaker 1: it's not always about getting the suspect or the defendant
- 20:25Speaker 1: in a case off but oftentimes my job is to
- 20:29Speaker 1: find mitigating circumstances and for somebody for an adult male
- 20:35Speaker 1: to become sexually fixated on an eight or nine year
- 20:40Speaker 1: old pre pubescent girl, that's not somebody who's of normal
- 20:45Speaker 1: and sound mind. That is somebody who is suffering from
- 20:49Speaker 1: a sickness where that could play into mitigation, meaning something
- 20:58Speaker 1: that goes against the aggravating factors that would lead toward
- 21:03Speaker 1: a more serious penalty in a case. Never a dull
- 21:06Speaker 1: moment with Troy Slayton, I notice you you just were
- 21:11Speaker 1: that close to saying, whoever did this should get treatment,
- 21:14Speaker 1: not jail time. I'm glad you didn't throw me into
- 21:16Speaker 1: chest pains with that. Crime stories with Nancy Grace. For
- 21:34Speaker 1: those of you just joining us, we're talking about the
- 21:35Speaker 1: disappearance of a nine year old little girl, Diana Alvarez,
- 21:40Speaker 1: taken from her home. Take a listen now to WBBH
- 21:45Speaker 1: NBC two Terry Hornstein. The home here still taped off
- 21:50Speaker 1: with crime scene tape, more than forty eight hours since
- 21:53Speaker 1: Diana Alvarez was last seen, her stepfather saying today a
- 21:57Speaker 1: group will go out and search for her once again
- 22:00Speaker 1: on a TV's Several law enforcement agencies have been out
- 22:05Speaker 1: here searching for this girl. There have been K nine
- 22:07Speaker 1: units out here. Even some law enforcement from Collier County
- 22:11Speaker 1: came up to help look for this girl. Detectives with
- 22:14Speaker 1: the Lee County Sheriff's Office are calling the home here
- 22:17Speaker 1: on Unique Circle a crime scene right now. Diana's stepfather
- 22:20Speaker 1: did tell us he was questioned by investigators, but he
- 22:23Speaker 1: says he had nothing to do with her disappearance, and
- 22:26Speaker 1: he's worried about her being out there all alone at
- 22:29Speaker 1: night in the dark. Could I still waiting from yesterday
- 22:34Speaker 1: all nine, today, morning, all day and I still here,
- 22:39Speaker 1: No answers nothing. It's hard for me because I think
- 22:43Speaker 1: all the time. I know they's got to get him more,
- 22:45Speaker 1: dar more daughter. No answers nothing. You are hearing our
- 22:50Speaker 1: friends at to be BABH NBC two. Of course, police
- 22:55Speaker 1: look first at the family and male members in the
- 22:58Speaker 1: family when a child is missing from the stepfather living
- 23:02Speaker 1: there in the home, didn't go on the run submitted
- 23:05Speaker 1: to DNA. That's what we know now, but the family
- 23:10Speaker 1: and neighbors beginning to blame each other. Take a listen
- 23:14Speaker 1: at w Take a listen to w f XT Fox
- 23:17Speaker 1: News Adam Pinsker. The police tape is down, but the
- 23:21Speaker 1: investigation is still very active into what happened to this
- 23:25Speaker 1: nine year old girl. I talked to one neighbor who
- 23:27Speaker 1: said he was interviewed by federal agents from the Department
- 23:30Speaker 1: of Homeland Security. He knows Diana, he wants to help
- 23:34Speaker 1: find her, so he offered some DNA to those deputies. Meantime,
- 23:38Speaker 1: the family is torn apart over Diana's disappearance. Family members
- 23:48Speaker 1: separate Diana alba as a stepfather and stepmother from an
- 23:51Speaker 1: explosive argument, blaming each other over how nine year old
- 23:54Speaker 1: Diana disappeared early Sunday morning from this home on Unique
- 23:58Speaker 1: Circle in San Carlos Park. You are hearing our friends
- 24:01Speaker 1: at WFTX as neighbor's family all began fighting with each other,
- 24:06Speaker 1: blaming each other as DNA tests are done throughout the neighborhood,
- 24:11Speaker 1: this little girl goes missing. Now we've learned a lot
- 24:15Speaker 1: already just by listening to experts, and we know it's
- 24:17Speaker 1: a male. We know it's someone that had an obsession
- 24:19Speaker 1: or fixated on the nine year old girl, which means
- 24:22Speaker 1: it's someone that's been around the girl or who has
- 24:25Speaker 1: had an opportunity to watch her, to observe her. Who
- 24:30Speaker 1: could that be at a ballpark, at the school, at
- 24:33Speaker 1: their church, in their neighborhood, someone that sees the child
- 24:37Speaker 1: and covets and wants the child, and someone familiar with
- 24:42Speaker 1: the home. So where do you start? Mark class? As
- 24:45Speaker 1: you know, at the time of the starts, this child
- 24:47Speaker 1: could be going sixty miles further away every hour mark class,
- 24:52Speaker 1: and the grim statistics a mile a minute. That's how
- 24:55Speaker 1: fast your child can disappear. You're absolutely correct, it's about
- 24:59Speaker 1: the grimace. You could almost come up with what well
- 25:03Speaker 1: they do? What exactly what they're doing law enforcement? First
- 25:07Speaker 1: of all, they brought it in federal authorities, and I
- 25:09Speaker 1: think that's very important because federal authorities have much more
- 25:13Speaker 1: resource and much more knowledge of these types of situations
- 25:16Speaker 1: than locals do. But then you talk to the stepfather,
- 25:20Speaker 1: you talk to the individuals that live in the house.
- 25:22Speaker 1: You talk to other family members, you talk to neighbors.
- 25:26Speaker 1: You do exactly as you said, and investigate the registered
- 25:29Speaker 1: sex offenders within the community. But then you've also got
- 25:32Speaker 1: delivery people, I mean, everybody's getting things delivered anymore at
- 25:37Speaker 1: their home. You've got utility people, You've got all kinds
- 25:41Speaker 1: of people that could exist within that little universe. But then,
- 25:48Speaker 1: I think the thing that I'd like to just mention
- 25:51Speaker 1: quickly is the family itself. How they've got to be
- 25:55Speaker 1: completely reeling that this stepfather and the mother have always
- 26:00Speaker 1: told this little girl that they will be there for
- 26:02Speaker 1: her and they will protect her, and all of a sudden,
- 26:04Speaker 1: somebody comes into the house and takes her and it
- 26:07Speaker 1: proves that they were wrong. Can you imagine the kind
- 26:09Speaker 1: of guilt that's involved in that, trying to reconcile yourself
- 26:13Speaker 1: to the fact that you said you would do something,
- 26:15Speaker 1: you told a child you would do something, and then
- 26:18Speaker 1: you were unable to do it. It's just the beginning
- 26:20Speaker 1: of a nightmare that goes on and on and on
- 26:24Speaker 1: until you get some kind of resolution, and it gets
- 26:27Speaker 1: no easier, it gets much more difficult day after day.
- 26:30Speaker 1: After day as the bitter truth finally see it sinks
- 26:34Speaker 1: in as to what's happened here, Mark Class, what is
- 26:37Speaker 1: the statistic that you told me about? You told me
- 26:40Speaker 1: first that the hours that pass, each hour that passes
- 26:45Speaker 1: once a child is abducted, they likelihood that they will
- 26:49Speaker 1: be murdered. Seventy three percent of children that are going
- 26:52Speaker 1: to be murdered as a redult of an abduction will
- 26:54Speaker 1: be dead within the first three hours. That's the statistic.
- 26:58Speaker 1: Another staggering statistic to just sink in. Twenty one hundred
- 27:02Speaker 1: children missing each day in America. After three hours, seventy
- 27:07Speaker 1: three percent of those in stranger abductions are dead. Seventy
- 27:11Speaker 1: three percent have been typically raped and murdered in the
- 27:16Speaker 1: first three hours. Guys, we are talking about the disappearance
- 27:23Speaker 1: of a nine year old little girl. Practically no stations
- 27:28Speaker 1: picked up on her disappearance, and I'm listening to something
- 27:34Speaker 1: that the family, the extended family screamed out. They said
- 27:42Speaker 1: they should have been paying more attention to her. What
- 27:48Speaker 1: does that mean they should have been paying more attention
- 27:53Speaker 1: to her to doctor Angela Arnold psychiatrists joining us out
- 27:57Speaker 1: of the Atlanta jurisdiction, something that Mark class just said
- 28:01Speaker 1: the overwhelming guilt that specifically the mother, her biological mother
- 28:06Speaker 1: must feel that her nine year old daughter goes missing
- 28:09Speaker 1: under her watch, under her roof. But Nancy, why what
- 28:14Speaker 1: were people observing that they felt like this child should
- 28:17Speaker 1: have been having more attention paid to her. That's very
- 28:20Speaker 1: curious that that would be the first thing out of
- 28:23Speaker 1: your else and that is a big tale tale signed
- 28:27Speaker 1: to me. Go ahead, Angela, And why do they start?
- 28:29Speaker 1: Why they Why did the family members start fighting with
- 28:32Speaker 1: each other all of a sudden. You would think that
- 28:34Speaker 1: people would pull together instead of fight with each other
- 28:37Speaker 1: over her disappearance, right, you'd think, you'd think, But the
- 28:41Speaker 1: level of blame that's going around that bio dad doesn't
- 28:44Speaker 1: live there, so he probably feels guilty. The stepfather is
- 28:48Speaker 1: under suspicion because he's a male in the home. Then
- 28:51Speaker 1: you've got the mother. The child goes missing on her
- 28:54Speaker 1: watch and then after nine days a major break in
- 29:00Speaker 1: the case or is it Take a listen to WFTX
- 29:04Speaker 1: Fox four Samantha Sosa. Nine days later and still no
- 29:10Speaker 1: sign of nine year old Diana Alvarez, even after investigators
- 29:13Speaker 1: arrested a person of interest twenty eight year old Jorge
- 29:16Speaker 1: Guerrero sits in the Lee County jail after police picked
- 29:19Speaker 1: him up in Okeechobee Saturday. He was transferred to Lee
- 29:22Speaker 1: County this morning, where he's now charged with having child porn.
- 29:26Speaker 1: Diana's family not knowing what to make of the charge.
- 29:30Speaker 1: We don't want to imagine worst case scenario again. We
- 29:32Speaker 1: want to try to stay positive. Although Guerrero hasn't been
- 29:37Speaker 1: charged with kidnapping, court documents revealed police tracked his phone
- 29:40Speaker 1: to the area where Diana's home is in the hours
- 29:43Speaker 1: she went missing. Police then tracked the cell phone to
- 29:45Speaker 1: central Florida, where it was stationary for several hours, and
- 29:48Speaker 1: then ditched along a road in Orlando. Diana's family is
- 29:51Speaker 1: devastated and desperate at this point for answers that will
- 29:55Speaker 1: lead them to Diana. Her very pregnant mother doesn't even
- 29:57Speaker 1: want to go to the hospital until she sees her daughter.
- 30:00Speaker 1: At this point, she's having difficulties she's been ordered by dress.
- 30:04Speaker 1: The family pushing to keep Diana's pictures circulating. Police say
- 30:08Speaker 1: tips and leads have been helpful in this case. So
- 30:11Speaker 1: suddenly this guy, Guerrero's arrested on child porn and his
- 30:20Speaker 1: phone his truck from around Diana's home all the way
- 30:26Speaker 1: to central Florida where the phone is ditched. Crime Stories
- 30:45Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. We are talking about the disappearance of
- 30:50Speaker 1: a nine year old girl, Diana Alvarez. So, Choice Layton,
- 30:55Speaker 1: you're the right now and criminal defense attorney. Why would
- 30:58Speaker 1: a guy just throw a cell phone out the window
- 31:01Speaker 1: and leave it? Why? I wouldn't doesn't sound good, Nancy,
- 31:06Speaker 1: And neither does the fact that he was possessing child pornography.
- 31:12Speaker 1: And so what do you do with that at trial?
- 31:16Speaker 1: Troice Layton, what do you do when your client coincidentally
- 31:20Speaker 1: the same day this little girl goes missing ditches his
- 31:23Speaker 1: cell phone. Why would you throw away your own cell phone?
- 31:28Speaker 1: You got to come up with an explanation for a
- 31:29Speaker 1: jury fell out the window accidentally. I'm so glad you
- 31:34Speaker 1: said you were trying to text and it was hanging
- 31:38Speaker 1: out the window and then the wind got it. But Nancy, seriously, obviously,
- 31:45Speaker 1: ditching a cell phone on purpose, just like running from
- 31:49Speaker 1: the police, shows consciousness of guilt. And I think that
- 31:54Speaker 1: in a case like this where there is child pornography, obviously, Lee,
- 32:00Speaker 1: this is somebody that is suffering from a medical condition.
- 32:06Speaker 1: So you stop with the medical condition. It's a felony.
- 32:10Speaker 1: You call it a medical condition. I call it one
- 32:13Speaker 1: of the worst felonies that exist. Child sickness, Nancy, it's
- 32:19Speaker 1: the sagments that can best be treated behind bars. Well
- 32:22Speaker 1: they're possibly behind bars, but also uh intense psychotherapy and
- 32:30Speaker 1: psychological treatment behind party. Who is who is that? Uh
- 32:35Speaker 1: sick Nancy to Rank Aputer, lead news anchor, joining me
- 32:38Speaker 1: with Orlando's Morning News w d BO, What if any
- 32:43Speaker 1: connection is there between this guy Guerrero and the Alvarez family. Well, Nancy,
- 32:50Speaker 1: like Mark Class said a bit, the first thing that
- 32:53Speaker 1: investigators do is they start drilling down on the immediate family.
- 32:57Speaker 1: So they talk to the mom the stuff that they're
- 33:00Speaker 1: really distraught, And what they learned is that Horne Guerrera
- 33:03Speaker 1: Torres had been staying with the family while he was
- 33:06Speaker 1: looking for work. If we do a migrant worker. Just
- 33:11Speaker 1: in a nutshell, he had been allowed to live in
- 33:14Speaker 1: the home. Yes, he had been allowed to live Oh,
- 33:19Speaker 1: Mark Class, Mark, Mark, I remember a case and it
- 33:26Speaker 1: started out as a murder case, and the sister, the
- 33:31Speaker 1: adult sister of the victim, would come to court every
- 33:34Speaker 1: day and I got to know her and the rest
- 33:36Speaker 1: of the victim's family. And over the course of this
- 33:40Speaker 1: very long trial, as I was prosecuting during the day
- 33:45Speaker 1: and she would sit in the back, I got to
- 33:48Speaker 1: know her, and I learned that out of her big family,
- 33:54Speaker 1: many children, her father molested her. Nobody but her and
- 34:00Speaker 1: the mother knew about it. And all these years later,
- 34:07Speaker 1: she was still as she should have been, torn up.
- 34:13Speaker 1: And I saw the father come into court watching the
- 34:18Speaker 1: murder trial. His son had been murdered, and I could
- 34:23Speaker 1: barely stand a look at him because I believed what
- 34:27Speaker 1: the now adult daughter was telling me. And she blamed
- 34:30Speaker 1: the mother just as much as she blamed the father.
- 34:33Speaker 1: And I think she's right if the mother knew what
- 34:36Speaker 1: was going on. First of all, not saying this mother knew,
- 34:39Speaker 1: and Diana Alvarez, I'm just saying, that's my memory of
- 34:43Speaker 1: another case. Bringing somebody that's a child pornographer into the
- 34:50Speaker 1: home and letting them stay there explains why the family
- 34:54Speaker 1: members were fighting. Almost immediately after her disappearance, those other
- 35:00Speaker 1: family members were saying, you should have watched her more carefully.
- 35:04Speaker 1: Why did you allow that man to stay in the house.
- 35:07Speaker 1: Didn't you see her behavior? Perhaps she had changed. I
- 35:11Speaker 1: don't know, but it's sure is pointing in that direction.
- 35:14Speaker 1: Answer take a lesson to cut eleven WFTX Fox for
- 35:19Speaker 1: Chris Shaw. Diana's parents were here for the hearing today.
- 35:22Speaker 1: In fact, they come to pretty much all of Guerrero's
- 35:24Speaker 1: court appearances. They left today like they leave most of
- 35:28Speaker 1: the time, discouraged that as the wheels of justice slowly
- 35:32Speaker 1: turn on this case, they are no closer to getting
- 35:34Speaker 1: the answer they desperately need. Plenty of things happened in
- 35:38Speaker 1: federal court Monday morning, but the family of Diana Alvarez
- 35:41Speaker 1: walked away feeling like nothing has really changed it. They
- 35:46Speaker 1: still little have nothing about Diana. So we're still looking
- 35:51Speaker 1: for somebody they know, Santen or any new It's been
- 35:57Speaker 1: more than two months since the nine year old vanished
- 35:59Speaker 1: from her San Carlos Park home. Guys, we are hearing
- 36:01Speaker 1: the parents speaking, and then a bombshell that cracks the
- 36:07Speaker 1: case wide open. We learn that during a search for Diana,
- 36:13Speaker 1: police speak to Guerrero and he admits he admits he
- 36:19Speaker 1: quote made sexual contact with Diana when she was only
- 36:25Speaker 1: eight years old on a regular basis. So this has
- 36:32Speaker 1: been going on right under the noses of the family
- 36:36Speaker 1: in the home because they allow this guy to stay
- 36:41Speaker 1: under their roof. Do I have it correctly out to
- 36:45Speaker 1: Ray Kabudo Wdbo, Yeah, Nancy, you do. But when they
- 36:49Speaker 1: figure out that there's an appropriate relationship going on cruly,
- 36:53Speaker 1: they don't call the police. They just throw us out.
- 36:58Speaker 1: So that's how he got out of the whole book.
- 37:00Speaker 1: I understanding police were never called when he apparently having
- 37:04Speaker 1: sexual contact with this desicient. Is that meeting there was
- 37:08Speaker 1: some worry over there. Wait a minute, just a minute
- 37:12Speaker 1: before you start, I want to stick with what we're
- 37:14Speaker 1: talking about right now. To Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics,
- 37:18Speaker 1: it's really hard for me to believe that there has
- 37:20Speaker 1: been regular sex contact with an eight year old child
- 37:24Speaker 1: and nobody in the home and nobody notices anything. Yeah,
- 37:28Speaker 1: in most cases where you have the sexual abuses ongoing,
- 37:32Speaker 1: you'll see drastic changes in the victim, particularly a child
- 37:35Speaker 1: like this. You'll have everything from a bed wedding. You'll
- 37:40Speaker 1: have children whose appetites will diminish. You'll see particularly where
- 37:46Speaker 1: they're not paying attention to their own personal hygiene. These
- 37:49Speaker 1: are some things that manifest themselves that give us evidentially
- 37:53Speaker 1: clues as to ongoing behavior. And also if they are
- 37:56Speaker 1: exhibiting fear fear when they're in then so how can
- 38:01Speaker 1: a family not be attuned to this sort of thing?
- 38:04Speaker 1: This is what we know at this juncture. Our cut
- 38:07Speaker 1: fifteen Jackie. Take a listen to wink w I and
- 38:12Speaker 1: k Nis reporter Anika and Anger. At times she couldn't speak.
- 38:17Speaker 1: The news about her daughter so painful. When we spoke,
- 38:20Speaker 1: she still had to tell Diana's five brothers and sisters
- 38:23Speaker 1: the news, and she told us they still held on
- 38:25Speaker 1: to hope that Diana would come home. A mom with
- 38:29Speaker 1: what she has left of her daughter, not nearly enough
- 38:33Speaker 1: memories and pictures. I have to go without a birthday,
- 38:37Speaker 1: another year without a birthday, after nearly four long years
- 38:40Speaker 1: of searching for Diana Alvarez. Today her mom bread to
- 38:44Speaker 1: her Nandez learned investigators found her daughter's remains. I don't
- 38:48Speaker 1: wish this upon anybody, on nobody, because it wasn't her fault.
- 38:51Speaker 1: The painful discovery in the Ossiola County, where the Lee
- 38:54Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Office says surveyors stumbled upon the remains the
- 38:58Speaker 1: only suspect in Diana's appearance from her Saint Carlos Park
- 39:02Speaker 1: home in twenty sixteen is Jorge Guerrero Torres. While he
- 39:06Speaker 1: already faces murder charges in her death, prosecutors now have
- 39:10Speaker 1: further evidence of the crime. But what she suffered and
- 39:13Speaker 1: what she lived in those moments, I don't wish that
- 39:15Speaker 1: upon anybody to mark class. Do you remember the moment,
- 39:22Speaker 1: and I know you do, that you learned Polly had
- 39:25Speaker 1: been murdered, You know I do, Nancy, And it was
- 39:29Speaker 1: just probably the saddest thing that ever happened in my life.
- 39:33Speaker 1: I was called into the Pedalota Police Department, probably for
- 39:39Speaker 1: the second time in that day, and they told me
- 39:44Speaker 1: that there was an update. Polly's mom was there, my
- 39:48Speaker 1: wife Violet was there. When we walked into the office.
- 39:52Speaker 1: There were already tears in the eyes of the FBI
- 39:55Speaker 1: agent and the local police captain, and it was just
- 39:59Speaker 1: a matter of them telling me what had happened. And
- 40:03Speaker 1: it's funny because intellectually I understood exactly what he said,
- 40:07Speaker 1: but it took me maybe three or four hours before
- 40:10Speaker 1: my emotions caught up with that unbelievable revelation. And it
- 40:15Speaker 1: was only then hours later, once we had finally returned
- 40:19Speaker 1: home for the first time in sixty five days that
- 40:21Speaker 1: the enormity of the situation revealed itself to me, and
- 40:27Speaker 1: my heart absolutely shattered. And it took me a decade,
- 40:33Speaker 1: at least a decade to be able to take those
- 40:35Speaker 1: little shards of heart and put them back together and
- 40:39Speaker 1: be able to enjoy life again. It's just the most devastating,
- 40:43Speaker 1: horrifying news one could ever expect to hear. But having
- 40:48Speaker 1: said that, Nancy, I'm in a better place knowing than
- 40:52Speaker 1: Missus Alvarez was not knowing for those four years. We know.
- 41:00Speaker 1: Wait as justice unfolds Nancy Grace crime story. Signing off
- 41:05Speaker 1: goodbye friend,