Latest / Foul Territory / Grayson Rodriguez on his injury recovery, Mayo’s comments, Marlins ditching pen sessions
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Like I said, all you can do is put your
- 0:01Speaker 1: head down and go to work.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Whether that's triple A, the big leagues, double A. I mean,
- 0:06Speaker 2: you can't control the roster moves and stuff. That's up
- 0:08Speaker 2: to the organization.
- 0:12Speaker 3: All right, We've got our guy, Grayson Rodriguez joining us
- 0:15Speaker 3: right now, the Baltimore Oriols. Grayson, good to see you, dude.
- 0:19Speaker 3: I know you're probably frustrated. Let's let's knock this out
- 0:21Speaker 3: right off the jump. Give us the good update when
- 0:24Speaker 3: you're coming back.
- 0:25Speaker 2: Yeah, So, i' mean throwing throwing a pin here in
- 0:28Speaker 2: the next few days and then really start the ramp up.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Think for me, basically spring training starts over, so kind
- 0:34Speaker 2: of getting a fresh start with that, and you know,
- 0:37Speaker 2: hopefully we don't miss too much time, but got to
- 0:39Speaker 2: make sure I'm healthy and ready to get back out
- 0:41Speaker 2: there and make starts.
- 0:44Speaker 4: What happened?
- 0:45Speaker 1: What happened?
- 0:46Speaker 5: I mean, I know, besides the fact you wouldn't throw
- 0:47Speaker 5: against me, is that what happened is that I krats
- 0:50Speaker 5: and I came to camp and then you're like, man,
- 0:52Speaker 5: I got to have some excuse to why I can't
- 0:54Speaker 5: let him get a dinger off me.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Now, if I would have faced you in krats, my
- 1:00Speaker 2: confidence would have been real high. But no, I mean
- 1:03Speaker 2: I've got you know, I've had something I've been dealing
- 1:05Speaker 2: with for the last three or four years.
- 1:07Speaker 1: You know, it kind of flared up on me.
- 1:09Speaker 2: So uh, you know, like I said, triseep flared up
- 1:13Speaker 2: a little bit, had a little bit of tendonitis in
- 1:14Speaker 2: the triceps.
- 1:15Speaker 1: So we had to make sure that kind of calmed
- 1:17Speaker 1: down and make sure it didn't get a lot worse.
- 1:19Speaker 2: But thankfully, you know, like I had to get some
- 1:22Speaker 2: check ups and some scans on the elbow and it
- 1:24Speaker 2: was all good.
- 1:24Speaker 1: It was all healthy, So you know, really fortunate with
- 1:27Speaker 1: that news.
- 1:28Speaker 2: But yeah, just making sure the information could settle down
- 1:31Speaker 2: a little bit and you know, kind of start the
- 1:33Speaker 2: ramp up process again.
- 1:35Speaker 4: Do you think the process should be longer to coming
- 1:38Speaker 4: back or shorter.
- 1:41Speaker 2: A. I mean, you know, two guys, you know, on
- 1:44Speaker 2: the il, obviously you're chomping at the bed to get
- 1:47Speaker 2: back out there.
- 1:48Speaker 1: You know, in my eyes, it could always be a
- 1:49Speaker 1: little bit shorter.
- 1:51Speaker 2: But you know, the organization always has kind of our
- 1:54Speaker 2: best interest in mind, you know, so they're gonna make
- 1:56Speaker 2: it a little bit longer and just make sure that
- 1:58Speaker 2: you know when you don't, you don't know sssarily just
- 2:00Speaker 2: wresh yourself back and you know, maybe go back out
- 2:02Speaker 2: there and hurt yourself again or make it worse. You know,
- 2:05Speaker 2: you got to make sure you take the time up
- 2:06Speaker 2: front to make sure you're healthy and right to get
- 2:09Speaker 2: back out there, and you know, the goals to not
- 2:11Speaker 2: go back on the aisle for the rest of the
- 2:13Speaker 2: season and pitch into the playoffs, And that's what we're going.
- 2:15Speaker 1: To try to do.
- 2:17Speaker 5: Are you in Baltimore or Sarasota? Do they they some teams.
- 2:22Speaker 5: Some teams have a policy where if you're injured you
- 2:23Speaker 5: have to go to the spring training site. Some teams like,
- 2:25Speaker 5: oh no, you can hang out with the big league
- 2:27Speaker 5: team and do stuff in Baltimore.
- 2:29Speaker 1: Yeah. So, well right now I'm in Toronto.
- 2:31Speaker 2: We got here yesterday, so you know we're ready to
- 2:35Speaker 2: rock for opening Day here coming up.
- 2:36Speaker 1: But yeah, so this year.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Baltimore, we're doing renovations start spring training complex, which is awesome.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Uh, you know, we're gonna.
- 2:46Speaker 2: Start the new development of a performance center or whatever.
- 2:51Speaker 2: But I think Bigley Rehab guys will be in Baltimore
- 2:54Speaker 2: this year for sure.
- 2:57Speaker 4: Do you think that teams definitely know how to rehab
- 3:03Speaker 4: you because we see rashes of injuries. Do you think
- 3:07Speaker 4: there's like maybe when when I asked, like you want
- 3:10Speaker 4: to get back sooner? You know your body and you
- 3:13Speaker 4: are you have to push yourself like we still we
- 3:16Speaker 4: actually see more injuries now and yeah, players still just
- 3:21Speaker 4: lean on well, you know what, this is what the
- 3:23Speaker 4: training this is what the training staff says, and this
- 3:26Speaker 4: is what the ORG says to do, but doesn't necessarily
- 3:29Speaker 4: seem like it's working from from my point of view.
- 3:33Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean, obviously, you know, you have your
- 3:35Speaker 2: team docs, you have the team training staff, you know,
- 3:39Speaker 2: and you're you're also getting second third opinions if you want,
- 3:43Speaker 2: from other doctors you know that aren't affiliated with the team,
- 3:46Speaker 2: that are well known baseball doctors or you know, whatever
- 3:48Speaker 2: you want to call it, whether it's a shoulder guy,
- 3:51Speaker 2: elbow guy, somebody like that. You know, there's always other
- 3:54Speaker 2: doctors out there that love to give their opinions and
- 3:57Speaker 2: stuff that help teams out that.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Aren't necessarily on their payer.
- 4:01Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I think it's just definitely it's
- 4:03Speaker 2: a collective you know, thought or an agreement. Ultimately, it's
- 4:07Speaker 2: up to the player on what the player wants to do.
- 4:10Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean there's there's a lot of people
- 4:12Speaker 2: that are putting input to it and taking the most
- 4:15Speaker 2: amount of time possible to get a plan together and
- 4:17Speaker 2: make sure that plan gets executed.
- 4:20Speaker 5: Grayson, what's your by the way, how's the Rogers Center Hotel?
- 4:23Speaker 5: Are you staying? You guys stay at the Rogers Center
- 4:25Speaker 5: Hotel out there in center field? Do you have a
- 4:26Speaker 5: view of the stadium. We used to stay there. It
- 4:28Speaker 5: was it was good and bad. It was like being
- 4:30Speaker 5: in Vegas. You never left the hotel. You'd walk from
- 4:32Speaker 5: the hotel to the stadium. Then you walk up and
- 4:34Speaker 5: you open the curtains and you're like, man, I'm still
- 4:36Speaker 5: in the baseball field. I need to get away. So
- 4:38Speaker 5: I'm assuming you guys don't stay there anymore. I'm assuming
- 4:40Speaker 5: you guys are probably you know, out in the rich
- 4:42Speaker 5: part of town, which is not you know, we're crats
- 4:45Speaker 5: used to live out in you know, the rich part
- 4:48Speaker 5: of town. But what do you guys do for those
- 4:49Speaker 5: two days?
- 4:50Speaker 4: What do you do?
- 4:50Speaker 5: Do you guys have a workout? Do you guys throw bullpens?
- 4:53Speaker 4: What happens?
- 4:54Speaker 5: Because you have two days before opening days. So do
- 4:56Speaker 5: you get bored just being like, man, I need to
- 4:58Speaker 5: play a game. I need to watch a game.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean obviously, you know, we were supposed to
- 5:03Speaker 2: play the Nationals yesterday in DC for an exhibition game,
- 5:06Speaker 2: and it got rained out, so we flew to DC,
- 5:09Speaker 2: got there, everything was obviously unloaded and packed ready to go,
- 5:12Speaker 2: and then.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Game get canceled.
- 5:14Speaker 2: So there'll be definitely some guys throwing some simulated endings today.
- 5:18Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean having workouts, guys getting off the mound,
- 5:24Speaker 2: throwing pins. Like I said, some guys will probably face
- 5:26Speaker 2: some hitters, hitters, take VP stuff like that, just kind
- 5:30Speaker 2: of make sure you know you're moving around basically like
- 5:32Speaker 2: having a spring training just without a game. So yeah,
- 5:35Speaker 2: I mean, just keeping the workouts rolling and getting ready
- 5:38Speaker 2: for Thursday.
- 5:39Speaker 4: All right, graceon, I want your immediate reaction. I don't
- 5:42Speaker 4: know if you've heard this, because I just found out
- 5:45Speaker 4: about it. The Marlins, according to Joel Sherman, are in
- 5:49Speaker 4: the midst of changing how their starters prepare for starts,
- 5:53Speaker 4: beginning with the elimination of between starts bullpen sessions in
- 5:58Speaker 4: favor of what they call quotes live pitch design sessions.
- 6:06Speaker 1: What is a live pitch design session. I don't know
- 6:10Speaker 1: I've ever heard of that.
- 6:12Speaker 3: But SIM game and then they, I guess, talk about
- 6:16Speaker 3: your your pitch design. And also I just want to
- 6:19Speaker 3: add because I read the story from dul Shruman the
- 6:21Speaker 3: other day that they started doing this, I guess with
- 6:23Speaker 3: some dudes in the second Apple last season. But yeah,
- 6:26Speaker 3: thoughts on the current process versus doing sim games essentially
- 6:30Speaker 3: instead of bullpen sessions.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean, obviously the current process is you've
- 6:36Speaker 2: got guys going out there, you know.
- 6:38Speaker 1: I guess you could call your start day one or
- 6:41Speaker 1: day five, depending on how you look at it.
- 6:43Speaker 2: But guys will throw a day two, day three. Sides
- 6:46Speaker 2: me personally, I like throwing day three.
- 6:48Speaker 1: Day two.
- 6:49Speaker 2: I'm a little too sore, So I don't really like
- 6:52Speaker 2: throwing a bullpen with all that store. It's just because
- 6:54Speaker 2: I simply don't feel like I'm getting a lot out
- 6:56Speaker 2: of it, especially if I need to work on a pitch.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Like I said, day two, if I get in a pin,
- 7:02Speaker 2: I'm really just kind of hoping it's over from pitch one.
- 7:05Speaker 2: Rather if I throw a pin on day three, I
- 7:07Speaker 2: feel a little bit better. Can I actually work on
- 7:10Speaker 2: stuff that I need to work on. But then, like
- 7:13Speaker 2: I said, you know, you have some guys I'm not
- 7:16Speaker 2: gonna say any names, but one of the best pitchers
- 7:18Speaker 2: in the American League last year that was with us,
- 7:20Speaker 2: it's no longer with us, didn't throw bullpens between starts.
- 7:25Speaker 2: And I mean, obviously you saw the numbers that he
- 7:27Speaker 2: put up, how great of a season he had. That
- 7:31Speaker 2: was also pretty eye opening to see somebody not throw
- 7:33Speaker 2: pins in between starts. But yeah, I think a lot
- 7:38Speaker 2: of guys are totally different. I think it's all kind
- 7:40Speaker 2: of dependent on the pitcher. But yeah, I mean there's
- 7:44Speaker 2: obviously a lot of really good starters in the game
- 7:46Speaker 2: that do a lot of different things in between in
- 7:48Speaker 2: between their starts.
- 7:50Speaker 4: Do you feel like it's overrated, Like you said, you
- 7:53Speaker 4: switched from day two to day three. Do you feel
- 7:56Speaker 4: like it's not necessary? Do you feel like you're doing
- 7:59Speaker 4: it because everybody else does it, or your pitching coach
- 8:01Speaker 4: is like, yeah, we need you to do it.
- 8:05Speaker 2: So honestly, our pitching coach, Drew French, who's now in
- 8:08Speaker 2: his second year with us, he's been phenomenal about that.
- 8:11Speaker 2: I mean, he he doesn't necessarily have something that's you know,
- 8:16Speaker 2: that needs to be done. I think, you know, he's
- 8:20Speaker 2: a big advocate a listening to your body. So you know,
- 8:23Speaker 2: maybe you are a little bit more sore after a
- 8:25Speaker 2: start and you don't want to throw a pin.
- 8:28Speaker 1: You know, he's cool with that.
- 8:29Speaker 2: You can get off the mound and throw like a touch,
- 8:32Speaker 2: which would be you know, seven to ten pitches. You
- 8:36Speaker 2: could even do something on day four, like the day
- 8:38Speaker 2: before you go back out and start. So I think that's,
- 8:41Speaker 2: you know, been really good for us. Obviously having somebody
- 8:44Speaker 2: like him who's been around the game a little bit,
- 8:48Speaker 2: had had the chance to work with some veteran guys,
- 8:52Speaker 2: and yeah, I mean really just kind of listening to
- 8:55Speaker 2: us instead of him sitting there holding the clipboard making
- 8:57Speaker 2: sure we check all these boxes.
- 8:59Speaker 1: From you know, some plan that was you know, done
- 9:03Speaker 1: made twenty years ago.
- 9:06Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it's really really nice having him
- 9:08Speaker 2: just because you know, he kind of lets us come
- 9:10Speaker 2: up with our own plan.
- 9:12Speaker 4: That's nice. He's he's realizing that you are people and
- 9:15Speaker 4: not just machines or printing on a paper. How about
- 9:19Speaker 4: Kobe Mail. Did you see what he said when he
- 9:21Speaker 4: got sent down? Did you agree with it? Did you
- 9:25Speaker 4: did you hear of guys talking to him about his comments,
- 9:28Speaker 4: which he then came back and apologized for.
- 9:32Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I didn't really you know know, I
- 9:35Speaker 2: guess anything he had said whenever it happened.
- 9:37Speaker 1: I mean, I know he got options and stuff.
- 9:40Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, it's kind it's kind of
- 9:44Speaker 2: a tough spot because obviously, you know, you're trying to
- 9:46Speaker 2: make the club, and when you don't, it's very disappointing.
- 9:50Speaker 1: It happened to me in twenty twenty three.
- 9:52Speaker 2: You know, I felt like I was supposed to break
- 9:54Speaker 2: with the team, had the worst spring training in my life.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Just couldn't get you know, I just didn't have my stuff.
- 10:01Speaker 2: Change up wasn't working right, and that's my best secondary pitch,
- 10:04Speaker 2: and you know that spring training, I just wasn't ready
- 10:07Speaker 2: for the big leagues. And then I got optioned, and
- 10:09Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's crushing. I mean it's it's a
- 10:12Speaker 2: mix of emotions. I mean, you're you know, you're mad,
- 10:15Speaker 2: You're you're sad. I mean, it's it's all kinds of
- 10:18Speaker 2: crazy stuff. So yeah, I mean, you know, obviously guys
- 10:21Speaker 2: might not be in their their best state of mind.
- 10:24Speaker 1: I guess after you get option because you are upset.
- 10:27Speaker 2: But like I said, I mean, really, you know, I've
- 10:31Speaker 2: been in his shoes, so I can see you know
- 10:33Speaker 2: exactly why, like what he might be feeling.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Now if I.
- 10:36Speaker 2: Agree with it, you know, I mean whatever, I mean, yeah,
- 10:39Speaker 2: you need to maybe handle.
- 10:41Speaker 1: It just to make I don't know, there's there's just
- 10:44Speaker 1: a lot of different ways you could go with it.
- 10:46Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, definitely he had the right to
- 10:48Speaker 2: be upset after getting optioned. But like I said, all
- 10:52Speaker 2: you can do is put your head down and go
- 10:53Speaker 2: to work, whether that's Triple A, the big leagues, double A.
- 10:56Speaker 2: I mean, you can't control the roster moves and stuff
- 10:59Speaker 2: that's up to the workanization. It's all you know that
- 11:01Speaker 2: you can do is control, you know, the effort that
- 11:03Speaker 2: you're putting on the field and showing up on time
- 11:05Speaker 2: and being a good teammate.
- 11:08Speaker 5: Listen, I said this at the time, and I'll stand
- 11:10Speaker 5: by my statement. I didn't have a problem with what
- 11:11Speaker 5: he said. I get what he's saying, and if you
- 11:14Speaker 5: actually dig into what he said, he was right. He's like,
- 11:16Speaker 5: I'm in a no win situation here. I dominated a
- 11:18Speaker 5: triple A last year, so if I go back there
- 11:20Speaker 5: and I dominated again. They're like, huh, well he should
- 11:22Speaker 5: have and then God forbid, he goes back and struggles
- 11:25Speaker 5: a little bit. They're like, see, we told you weren't ready.
- 11:27Speaker 5: So I get it now. Again, you can't control what
- 11:30Speaker 5: he said. He should have handled a different way. But
- 11:32Speaker 5: I actually kind of like what he said. I and
- 11:35Speaker 5: I agree with what he said. That wasn't the right
- 11:37Speaker 5: way to handle it, probably not, but he also was
- 11:40Speaker 5: frustrated and go. And you know how it is, Grayson,
- 11:42Speaker 5: after you have a bad start, you have to wear
- 11:44Speaker 5: those ugly orange uniforms and the reporter comes up to
- 11:47Speaker 5: you and says, Grayson, man, you look fat in those
- 11:49Speaker 5: orange uniforms. Yeah, you're like, yeah, you're like.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Not ugly, you're jealous. You're jealous.
- 11:54Speaker 3: We'll put that on the right of hater.
- 11:58Speaker 5: But you're like man to man in all these uniforms,
- 12:01Speaker 5: like Chris Sell took the knife from the scissors to
- 12:03Speaker 5: the uniforms, right like man at this, you know, man,
- 12:06Speaker 5: you know. But they catch you sometimes at bad times.
- 12:08Speaker 5: And I'm sure he's frustrated. So again I had no
- 12:10Speaker 5: problem with it. I hope you look great. I hope
- 12:12Speaker 5: you don't look like a pumpkin in the orange uniforms.
- 12:15Speaker 2: That's it, No, dude, I got to put those uniforms
- 12:18Speaker 2: on for for you know, picture and picture day, videoboard day,
- 12:23Speaker 2: you know, when they get all that content and stuff.
- 12:24Speaker 1: So got to put on the orange pants. I mean,
- 12:27Speaker 1: I like it.
- 12:28Speaker 2: You know, I think I'm a handsome guy in the
- 12:31Speaker 2: first place, but you know, with the orange uniforms on,
- 12:34Speaker 2: that was cool.
- 12:36Speaker 1: Yeah. So some guys, obviously, you know, it's it's just
- 12:40Speaker 1: hard to.
- 12:41Speaker 2: Get used to him because you know, you come up
- 12:42Speaker 2: through the minor leagues or the big leagues. You know,
- 12:44Speaker 2: all you ever wear is light gray pants.
- 12:47Speaker 1: There's just a lot of guys out there that don't
- 12:48Speaker 1: like change. But I love change.
- 12:50Speaker 2: I mean, I love how the uniforms look. I think
- 12:53Speaker 2: there's other guys in the clubhouse that definitely like how
- 12:55Speaker 2: they look. So yeah, I mean it's we always wear
- 12:59Speaker 2: orange on, sad that's something. Whenever we're home, we always
- 13:03Speaker 2: wear orange. Even on the road too, I think we do.
- 13:05Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I like the orange uniforms. I think, uh,
- 13:08Speaker 2: I think they're gonna look good.
- 13:09Speaker 1: I'm ready. I'm ready to see them out there on
- 13:11Speaker 1: the field. And hopefully the fans like them as much
- 13:13Speaker 1: as I do.
- 13:15Speaker 4: There's a lot of get off my long type of
- 13:17Speaker 4: people like AJ so don't even don't even I love them.
- 13:19Speaker 4: I think they're awesome. But one last thing, you guys
- 13:22Speaker 4: just went on your first road trip. What kind of
- 13:25Speaker 4: dress code do you guys have, because there's been a
- 13:27Speaker 4: lot of teams getting on the birds showing the you know,
- 13:30Speaker 4: the walk to the bust in slow motion, and fans
- 13:33Speaker 4: are just like, oh man, dress code has totally changed. Man,
- 13:38Speaker 4: it is like so unprofessional. In my opinion, is like
- 13:42Speaker 4: I love your sweatshirt right now. You should be all
- 13:44Speaker 4: rock dudge on to the to the field anytime.
- 13:47Speaker 2: Well, dude, our manager Brandon Hyde has been really great
- 13:50Speaker 2: with us for traveling. You know, you have some ball clubs.
- 13:53Speaker 2: They're suit and tie every time you get on a
- 13:55Speaker 2: flight with us. Usually the first road trips like pro attire,
- 14:00Speaker 2: like you know, were something business casual, where something really
- 14:03Speaker 2: nice coat whatever that might be.
- 14:06Speaker 1: But like during the year, you know how you know.
- 14:09Speaker 2: One hundred and sixty two games is a grind and
- 14:11Speaker 2: then having to get on airplanes and stuff and what
- 14:14Speaker 2: that does to you that can be really uncomfortable as well.
- 14:16Speaker 2: But you know, Nike comes out with I guess team sweatsuits,
- 14:21Speaker 2: so most of the time we're rocking those sweatsuits and
- 14:24Speaker 2: just a matter of fact, is just being comfortable I think,
- 14:26Speaker 2: you know, kind of when you're traveling, because that goes
- 14:28Speaker 2: a long way too.
- 14:29Speaker 1: You know, guys are trying to recover stuff like that.
- 14:32Speaker 2: I mean, you know, as long as we're wearing the
- 14:35Speaker 2: same thing, and you know, the sweatsuits don't look bad.
- 14:37Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you got the Orioles logo on it,
- 14:39Speaker 2: and you know they're clean looking sweatsuits, and then when
- 14:41Speaker 2: everybody's wearing them, you know, you.
- 14:43Speaker 1: Look good as a group.
- 14:43Speaker 2: But but yeah, I mean, Hider has been really good
- 14:46Speaker 2: with us with traveling, and yeah, we do get dressed up,
- 14:49Speaker 2: you know, a few times throughout the year. We have
- 14:51Speaker 2: themes and stuff like that. We do a lot of
- 14:53Speaker 2: the fun travel themes throughout the year. But yeah, the
- 14:57Speaker 2: sweatsuits are definitely my favorite. You know, I think it
- 15:00Speaker 2: really doesn't matter what you look like when you travel,
- 15:02Speaker 2: as long as everybody's wearing the same thing or something similar.
- 15:05Speaker 1: Yeah, and comfort's cool. Let's keep that in mind.
- 15:08Speaker 5: Hi, Hi, Hider ain't known for his fashion. Off, it's
- 15:11Speaker 5: all right, let's let's hider ain't known for his fashion.
- 15:13Speaker 5: And also May third, I'm doing a Kansas City of
- 15:16Speaker 5: Baltimore game, so I cannot wait to see you in
- 15:18Speaker 5: the full pumpkin.
- 15:20Speaker 1: Yeah, you better get it right there. Yeah, you're gonna
- 15:24Speaker 1: love me in full orange.
- 15:26Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Get the boogs Boogs barbecue ready for a
- 15:31Speaker 3: little Grayson start speedy recovery, dude.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Thanks for hopping on obviously.
- 15:35Speaker 3: It's always much appreciated and people respect that.
- 15:38Speaker 1: Great to hear from you rooting.
- 15:40Speaker 3: Free to get back soon and we'll check in with
- 15:41Speaker 3: you too in a few weeks, all right.
- 15:43Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate that, y'all. Don't have too much fun
- 15:45Speaker 1: with that. Enjoys Yeah, okay, sounds good.
- 15:52Speaker 3: Thanks Grayson,