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20190814-DriveTime.mp3 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jeff Wars, did you do jackle Jack Warris, did you
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Speaker 1: know Jack Wars? Drive Time? Ryan Sex steps thro John
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Speaker 1: Ohos It actually Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. Good morning,
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Speaker 1: and welcome the Jaguars Drive Time. Wednesday morning, brought to
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Speaker 1: you by Duval Motor Company. Getting ready for the second
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Speaker 1: preseason game against the Eagles on Thursday. That game is
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Speaker 1: brought to you by pet Paradise. Second preseason game here
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Speaker 1: in Duvall. It's still preseason, but guys walking around, it
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Speaker 1: seems like everyone is still really excited even though it
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Speaker 1: is preseason. Yeah. I think a lot of people are.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I'm that Jack dev you know, because
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Speaker 1: we're gonna see uh well, I mean, and I think
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Speaker 1: a lot of fans are a little disappointed that you
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Speaker 1: won't be seeing the starters. So I get that there
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Speaker 1: are some great storylines if you're looking deeper in the
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Speaker 1: depth chart. I am excited about. But I can't sit
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Speaker 1: here and you know, telling people fired up about seeing
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Speaker 1: the backups, because there are people who are rightfully upset
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Speaker 1: that you know, you're coming down here and you're and
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Speaker 1: you're going into a game and you're not going to
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Speaker 1: see the starters. At the same time, there's a separation
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Speaker 1: right now in this league, Brian, that this is the
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Speaker 1: way that teams are going to approach it. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: that's really the overriding issue here is that we're we're
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Speaker 1: living through the transition of the exhibition that used to
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Speaker 1: be called the exhibition season, and then the marketing folks
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Speaker 1: up in the league office that you know, it's easier
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Speaker 1: to sell these games where starters don't play very much
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Speaker 1: if we call it preseason, it's exhibition. Um, I would
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Speaker 1: be a little more interested in it if I were
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Speaker 1: a fan, if if I any think it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: a hundred forty seven degrees, which that that's I mean,
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Speaker 1: I've heard people say that. People the gym this morning
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Speaker 1: to me said, well, I mean, you're making it easier
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Speaker 1: for me not to come by not playing the starters.
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Speaker 1: The fact that there's a it's bonus. Um. It's a
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Speaker 1: little bit of perception issue too. I mean, you've covered
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Speaker 1: and called dred of these you know, at least over
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Speaker 1: the years least. Um, it's not like the starters played
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Speaker 1: a whole lot in Week one and two anyway, they
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Speaker 1: may have played eight to fourteen, so there's always been
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Speaker 1: this disconnect of what people are paying as to what
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Speaker 1: they're getting now since they're not even getting those ten plays. Well,
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Speaker 1: what's interesting is is that last year Doug Morone played
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Speaker 1: the first team offense in the second preseason game. You
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Speaker 1: might recall, well into the second quarter, Uh, well, thirty
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Speaker 1: two snaps, I think is what Blake Portal's got in Minnesota.
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Speaker 1: And that was after a joint workout and member Doug
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Speaker 1: said yesterday and he told our crew last Wednesday that
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Speaker 1: the quality of the work against the Ravens dictated that
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Speaker 1: his guys didn't need as much. He has radically altered
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Speaker 1: his philosophy. He's not the only coach. We're about to
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Speaker 1: go into a collective bargaining um negotiation with the players
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Speaker 1: and the owners. And the owners have made no um
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Speaker 1: qualms about it that they won an eighteen game schedule,
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Speaker 1: and for years and years, the players never had to
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Speaker 1: even think about that. They just took it off the table.
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Speaker 1: But they now have some things that they want money
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Speaker 1: being number one, they'd like the commissioner to give up
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Speaker 1: his disciplinary power. Number two. So because this preseason thing
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Speaker 1: is just it, it's not working for teams anymore. It's
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Speaker 1: tough to sell tickets. I don't expect you're gonna have
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Speaker 1: a huge crowd here in the heat to watch the
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Speaker 1: backups when it's been announced there will be backups everywhere. Um.
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Speaker 1: I think everyone has to take a good hard look
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Speaker 1: at what this is and how it works best. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And I don't think you can be upset because that's
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Speaker 1: what the regular seasons for. That's what the Chiefs game
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Speaker 1: is for. Watch the starters coming a few weeks well,
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Speaker 1: and I think most fans get that they'll be here
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Speaker 1: for the starters. They want to see their team. Um.
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Speaker 1: But the reason people are upset is they're coming out
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Speaker 1: of pocket for it. I mean, and that's the age
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Speaker 1: old argument. Well, although get let's be honest. I mean,
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Speaker 1: what they've done is they've taken the cost of the
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Speaker 1: ticket and divided it over ten games. If you want,
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Speaker 1: they can take the cost of the ticket and divided
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Speaker 1: over eight and put free on each of the preseason games.
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Speaker 1: The cost of the tickets the cost of the ticket.
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Speaker 1: It's just a way for them to to spread it out.
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Speaker 1: It's an accounting tool. It's always been that way. The
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Speaker 1: preseason is just you want to be honest, that's where
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Speaker 1: the owners make all the money. Right, The players don't
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Speaker 1: get a cut. They get a salary in the preseason,
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Speaker 1: they don't get a cut of the gate for this deal.
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Speaker 1: So it has always been a profit center for the owners.
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Speaker 1: Well that was designed years ago when the owners needed
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Speaker 1: a profit center. You know. Now they've got things like
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Speaker 1: this and NFL Network and well, without a doubt, they've
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Speaker 1: got Daily's Place, and they've got the good old kinds
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Speaker 1: of revenue streams that they didn't have before. It's just
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Speaker 1: we've reached that fundamental shift where the phone no longer
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Speaker 1: has to be mounted on the wall. Joe gets it,
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Speaker 1: You don't, right, Well, there was. You don't get it
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Speaker 1: because in your whole life this phone. You've been able
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Speaker 1: to carry it around, haven't you. Kids, Yes, you've been
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Speaker 1: able to carry it around. Yes, did you ever have
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Speaker 1: did you ever have to go downstairs and take the
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Speaker 1: phone off the wall? No? No. The first thing that
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Speaker 1: people did when they called you what what did they say?
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Speaker 1: What do they say? How are you? What's your day?
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Speaker 1: That's the first thing that they were kids, where are
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Speaker 1: you want to talk to you? No? Now they say, hey, Shlann,
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Speaker 1: where are you? I'm in the studio, Mom, leave me alone. Right,
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Speaker 1: it used to be you knew where people called you.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know how we got off on this tangent.
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Speaker 1: My point is that there's this changed lives. We're at
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Speaker 1: a point in in the preseason's existence in the NFL
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Speaker 1: where it's got to change, and it's going to change.
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Speaker 1: I'm still hung up on John being told don't call
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Speaker 1: me when he was just a week one. I used
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Speaker 1: to think that that's what girls thought. My name was,
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Speaker 1: never call me. Get two big things. If you take
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Speaker 1: anything away from my little rant there and that that
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Speaker 1: is is that it's fundamentally now it has to change.
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Speaker 1: The preseason can't stay the same and don't call John.
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Speaker 1: And phones used have to be mounted on walls and
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Speaker 1: they had little things called rotary dials. That's weird. I've
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Speaker 1: never seen that before. All Right, big things. Big thing
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Speaker 1: One is it is hot. It's been basically record breaking
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Speaker 1: heat the past three days of training camp. I spoke
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Speaker 1: to Jared Wilson and yesterday and he told me this
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Speaker 1: is the hottest training camp he's been through and he
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Speaker 1: felt like he was going to pass out. Yesterday we
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Speaker 1: did two and we were doing nothing, so I can
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Speaker 1: only imagine them. We'll get how that that he affects
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. And a little bit big thing too is
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Speaker 1: let's work. So Doug morn has explained his free seas
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Speaker 1: and philosophy and why it's changed. Let's hear his thoughts.
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Speaker 1: I looked at it this way. Is it to get
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Speaker 1: ten reps in the in the first preseason game? Is
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Speaker 1: that better than getting you know, let's say, on average
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Speaker 1: sixty something reps. You know what I'm saying during the
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Speaker 1: week against our once you know ones verse once. So
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Speaker 1: when I went back, I said, hey, I think this
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Speaker 1: is this is is good for our players. And big
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Speaker 1: thing three is how much who needs the reps? And
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Speaker 1: how many do they need. One guy we know definitely
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Speaker 1: needs to take advantage of those reps will beginning on
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Speaker 1: Thursday is Gardner Minshew. What's what's really unusual about him
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Speaker 1: is he can he can take that information and go
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Speaker 1: out on the field and and and really know what
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Speaker 1: you want. And that's unique. A lot of times you
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Speaker 1: have to kind of walk through it, you have to
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Speaker 1: see it, you have to do it, you know. But
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Speaker 1: he's a guy that has an opportunity that you can
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Speaker 1: tell him what you want in the classroom, and he
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Speaker 1: could go out on the field and pretty much know
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Speaker 1: exactly what you want, which I think is a benefit. Again,
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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of times would just be
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Speaker 1: a mentally tough and not not caving into you know, um,
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Speaker 1: you know the stuff on the outside. So that was
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Speaker 1: done rown on government who will most likely get a
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Speaker 1: lot of playing time on Thursday. Let's go back to
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Speaker 1: big thing one. You never want to use it as
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Speaker 1: an advantage or an excuse the heat here in Jacksonville,
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Speaker 1: But you've got to think when Kansas City comes to
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Speaker 1: town that first regular season game. It's been brutally hot
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Speaker 1: this training camp, and that has to be used on
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Speaker 1: an advantage for this team. Yeah, I mean you do
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Speaker 1: hope it's an advantage. I thought that it played a
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Speaker 1: factor in the New England game last year. I think
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Speaker 1: you guys are on the sidelines. He probably got a
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Speaker 1: better feel for it than I did, but it felt
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Speaker 1: like a factor that day. You can use it as
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Speaker 1: a factor. It can't be the only factor though. I
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Speaker 1: just said, what is it six straight days now where
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Speaker 1: the heat index is over Uh? It started off the opposite.
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Speaker 1: This is training camp for the first five days it
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Speaker 1: was very, very cool. And yesterday they broke camp and
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Speaker 1: you know, they all got to go home, and we
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Speaker 1: had reached that point in training camp where that had
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Speaker 1: to happen. You know, there was a skirmish to people
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Speaker 1: have read about with Jalen Ramsey and Chris Connolly, temper
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Speaker 1: start to flare. It just gotten to that point where
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Speaker 1: this team needed to to break and get in here.
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Speaker 1: Joe and I see it all the time. Yeah, without
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Speaker 1: a doubt. Um, I want to go to the last
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Speaker 1: big thing, and that is who needs how much time?
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Speaker 1: You wouldn't think that Nick Foles needs a lot of reps,
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Speaker 1: but I think it's a question worth asking how many
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Speaker 1: does he need in the preseason. There was a column
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Speaker 1: in the Philadelphia newspaper The Inquirer yesterday, and the apologies
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Speaker 1: to the author, I didn't catch his name. He was
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Speaker 1: arguing the point about why Carson went should be played
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Speaker 1: right because each of the last two seasons his season
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Speaker 1: has ended prematurely. He needs the time so that, when
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Speaker 1: you know, I thought it was a well reasoned argument
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Speaker 1: and it made me wonder what you think Nick Foles
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Speaker 1: needs in order because remember now we're talking new lineman,
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Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator, quarterback, receivers, tight ends. We don't even
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Speaker 1: know who's gonna play depending on injuries. I would, ideally,
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Speaker 1: in a perfect world, if there was no injury risk,
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Speaker 1: I would say to get the old system where you
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Speaker 1: had fifteen plays and then twenty five and you built
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Speaker 1: up and then you played a half um. Right now,
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Speaker 1: as beat up as the offensive line is, there's a
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Speaker 1: risk reward factor. You know. It's uh. I don't know that.
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Speaker 1: As much as I would like to see him get
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Speaker 1: twenty reps and get that feel, I don't know that
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Speaker 1: benefit of that is worth the risk of playing a
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Speaker 1: quarterback who has had a little bit of an injury
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Speaker 1: history behind that offensive line. I think in a long run,
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Speaker 1: with preseason games, we're back to the whole concept of
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Speaker 1: how much time you need. Two games ought to be
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Speaker 1: enough as long as you get for a series in
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Speaker 1: the first half of one of those games, as long
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Speaker 1: as you feel like that. As with anything in football,
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Speaker 1: coaches never think they're going to have enough in terms
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Speaker 1: of reps, in terms of prep. They would ideally have
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Speaker 1: forty preseason games if there were no injuries, because they're
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Speaker 1: always worried about things. I think you can probably get
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Speaker 1: it done if he plays a half against Miami. UM,
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Speaker 1: that would get close with some rust still probably going
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Speaker 1: into Kansas City, but not a terrible amount. Well, this
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Speaker 1: is gonna sound crazy to some people, but with all
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Speaker 1: the revenue streams that are there, because the money is
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Speaker 1: the driving factor. Uh, and the injury phobia that exists
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Speaker 1: the game, by the way, where injuries happen every play.
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Speaker 1: I can see the end of the preseason entirely and
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Speaker 1: see it be nothing more than joint practices college football.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not a big college fan. We know that. Uh,
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Speaker 1: they don't have preseason games. They just started playing and
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Speaker 1: they do just fine. And they do just fine. Um.
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Speaker 1: With the way coaches now are designed, the way that
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Speaker 1: they're thinking, get the work in, start camp started in August,
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Speaker 1: and work in August, have joint workouts every other week.
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Speaker 1: However it is that you want to get it done
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Speaker 1: and you don't even play the darn game. I think
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Speaker 1: we're a long way from that because I think there's
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Speaker 1: gonna be still and it's about the money. It's not
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Speaker 1: about the coaches. The coaches would do away with it now.
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Speaker 1: Oh I don't know about that. I mean I think
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Speaker 1: a lot of coaches and especially a lot of personnelity
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Speaker 1: people are even worried about losing the four because of
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Speaker 1: the evaluation process. Yes, you can do enjoying practices, but
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Speaker 1: it's not the same when it's under the lights and everything.
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Speaker 1: I think gms who don't have any power in this
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Speaker 1: sort of thing, I would fight hard to keep it
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Speaker 1: for just to see their guys. Yeah, so you lose
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Speaker 1: your starting quarterback or you lose your starting left tackle
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Speaker 1: and then all you don't play it, but you put
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Speaker 1: it to evaluate the bottom of the roster. They evaluate rosters.
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Speaker 1: You can you don't have to play games to be
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Speaker 1: able to make a good evaluation, the best evaluation. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you definitely see those sides of it as a whole.
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Speaker 1: And that's why I think it's going to be a
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Speaker 1: long time coming before a change like that comes. I
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Speaker 1: ain't going to too I think it'll be a long
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Speaker 1: time where they're going to none. All right, let's go
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Speaker 1: back to big thing two with doun Morons change in
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Speaker 1: preseason philosophy. I think it was important that he went
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Speaker 1: on the record yesterday in the press conference and better
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Speaker 1: explained himself about why he did this change. He kind
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Speaker 1: of announced that he was going to do a change,
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Speaker 1: but he never told us the reason at first, and
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Speaker 1: I think now that we know the reason, it definitely
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Speaker 1: makes more sense to everyone involved. Well, he told us
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Speaker 1: the reason last Wednesday, and we talked about it on
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Speaker 1: the broadcast. It just hadn't gotten public rude to people
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Speaker 1: know it was public as the broadcast is public, it
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Speaker 1: just wasn't written about and talked about in social media
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Speaker 1: to death. Um, it makes sense, and that's why I
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Speaker 1: say the value of preseason games is vastly overrated if
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Speaker 1: coaches are going to use the time and the joint
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Speaker 1: workouts and just use the number of snaps in a
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Speaker 1: total week as opposed to thirty snaps in the game.
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Speaker 1: And that's what he said last week. I look at
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Speaker 1: the reps in a controlled environment in the scrimmage, that scrimmage,
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Speaker 1: the joint practices against the Ravens, and he saw them
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Speaker 1: as more valuable with less risk than the preseason games.
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Speaker 1: At the same time, he's still playing them in week three,
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Speaker 1: so there's still that there's going to be a conflict
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Speaker 1: with not wanting to do away with it. If someone
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Speaker 1: gets hurting week three, you think maybe his philosophy will
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Speaker 1: change maybe because it changed from pretty dramatically, it could
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Speaker 1: change really dramatically. And that's why I'm saying I don't
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Speaker 1: I don't believe in the long term viability of preseason
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Speaker 1: games because coaches philosophies are changing so dramatically, so radically
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Speaker 1: and quickly. You can't help but think if if markis
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Speaker 1: Lee didn't get hurt last year, the starters are probably
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Speaker 1: playing a week two. Probably, yeah, because of that fear factor.
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Speaker 1: Maybe although the guys, the first team offense played deep
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Speaker 1: into the second quarter in Minnesota, no one got hurt. Hey,
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Speaker 1: it's a violent game. Guys get hurt it. Vinny Testiverty
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Speaker 1: and the New York Jets on opening day were thought
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Speaker 1: to be the favorite in the a f C. By
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Speaker 1: the way, that's the best season the Jaguars have ever had.
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Speaker 1: They were thought to be the best team. And on
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Speaker 1: the third series he dropped back and his achilles popped,
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Speaker 1: and the Jets went with Rick Meyer and went six
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Speaker 1: and ten, and they were an afterthought the rest of
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Speaker 1: the season. That happened on the third series of the
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Speaker 1: first game. Who's to say that your star running back
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Speaker 1: doesn't go out and have a catastrophic injury right in
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Speaker 1: the first quarter of the first it happens. It's football.
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Speaker 1: That's where the risk make right, right. Yeah, there's nothing
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Speaker 1: that says, oh, it's the regular season. Now coaches feel
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Speaker 1: better about it because hey, that's what happens. It's football.
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Speaker 1: They look at how do we train better? What do
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Speaker 1: we really need all this time? I'm just saying, if
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Speaker 1: you're not gonna have people in the stance here and
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Speaker 1: you're not when you say, hey, no starters are going,
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Speaker 1: don't want to tuck them to show up expected to
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Speaker 1: be spars, then you start wondering about the overall value
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Speaker 1: in terms of what it costs to put a game
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Speaker 1: up more cot just crazy. My watch and I talked
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Speaker 1: I saw what y'all did a couple of years ago,
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Speaker 1: and just the environment in the place, and you know
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Speaker 1: we watch all on film all the time. You want
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Speaker 1: to play with a great defense, I mean had a
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Speaker 1: great Yeah, you want to play with another group. I
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Speaker 1: just saw everything as a whole, you know, I just
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Speaker 1: I love you know, going in there and like helping
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Speaker 1: a team just you know, create an atmosphere that you
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Speaker 1: know it's successful, and watching you all on defense, just
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Speaker 1: seeing how y'all roll and seeing the leadership when you
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Speaker 1: see him sitting there in that small house. It made
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Speaker 1: me look big, and obviously he is much bigger. He's
18:03
Speaker 1: a big human being, big human being. All right. So
18:05
Speaker 1: when you're ready, oh I've been ready the alright, let's
18:23
Speaker 1: go to ed from Panna v Druft, Florida. I'm in
18:25
Speaker 1: total a cord with the coach's decision. First, it sends
18:28
Speaker 1: a message to the NFL. Second, maybe a superstar comes
18:31
Speaker 1: out of the secondary. The players need repetitions, argument is
18:35
Speaker 1: not valid. Don't think it enough repetitions at practice. It's
18:39
Speaker 1: but soundly mad because that was not the way it was. Well,
18:41
Speaker 1: we've already covered the repetitions thing to death. I think so. Um,
18:45
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of message it sends the NFL.
18:47
Speaker 1: I think, Brian, like you said, I think it's more
18:50
Speaker 1: of a sign of where the NFL is going. It's
18:53
Speaker 1: been a message to the the NFL. The NFL is not
18:55
Speaker 1: going to look at the Jacksonville game, go there a
18:57
Speaker 1: change that gets Dug didn't blay the starters. Uh but yeah,
19:00
Speaker 1: but Sally's always Matt Well And I think we said
19:03
Speaker 1: this the other day. There was a time when we
19:05
Speaker 1: were kids where they played six six preseason games. I remember, Brian,
19:10
Speaker 1: the off season O, T, A. S and all that
19:12
Speaker 1: they used the other two weeks of camp in those
19:14
Speaker 1: preseason games to get in shape, and that was that
19:18
Speaker 1: would never fight it, that was off I remember as
19:20
Speaker 1: a kid, attention to. I was living in Jacksonville, was
19:22
Speaker 1: a big Redskins fan. This was back before there was
19:25
Speaker 1: anything on Sports Center. You'd be trying to read and
19:27
Speaker 1: you look, there's no Sports Center. Well you can't fall
19:30
Speaker 1: sports Center at the point, I mean, like right, there
19:32
Speaker 1: was no social media. I know, you can't believe a
19:34
Speaker 1: world without that. So you're sitting there and you're reading
19:36
Speaker 1: the Times Union, You're trying to get like a little
19:38
Speaker 1: Simmons information and you look and you realize they're starting
19:42
Speaker 1: to play preseason games and it's like July and you've
19:45
Speaker 1: got and it was that's around That's around the time
19:48
Speaker 1: of my birthday. So I was happy, but um, and
19:51
Speaker 1: you realize you've got six weeks until anything starts. It
19:54
Speaker 1: was it was awful. But uh, I don't I don't
20:00
Speaker 1: think the lead is gonna hear a message from this.
20:02
Speaker 1: I think the grand theme of this conversation day is
20:05
Speaker 1: that this is where the league's going. It's going to
20:07
Speaker 1: two and maybe to zero down the road, because it's
20:10
Speaker 1: just becoming something that they can do another way, and
20:13
Speaker 1: I want to clever. I don't think they're going from
20:15
Speaker 1: four to zero. I think they're going from four to
20:18
Speaker 1: two with the thought that it will eventually become zero
20:21
Speaker 1: if they get eighteen games, there's two more revenue streams
20:25
Speaker 1: that offset it. They spend a ton of money to
20:27
Speaker 1: go to Baltimore last week. Right, if they don't have
20:30
Speaker 1: a good house tomorrow night, and if you're saying the
20:32
Speaker 1: starters aren't playing and it's gonna be degrees, then you're
20:36
Speaker 1: not gonna have a great day. You'll have the die
20:38
Speaker 1: hards there. So it becomes financially less viable right to
20:44
Speaker 1: have the preseason games, and I think they're going to
20:46
Speaker 1: head that way. Just write it down that I said
20:49
Speaker 1: it in nineteen and we'll see at what point you say, oh, yeah,
20:53
Speaker 1: he was ahead of his time. I'll put it in
20:55
Speaker 1: a sticky on you remember this, John I next. It
20:59
Speaker 1: doesn't that much to see if you're just looking down
21:02
Speaker 1: the road beyond tomorrow, it doesn't take too much to
21:05
Speaker 1: see how those things change. I am with this guy,
21:08
Speaker 1: ed because Doug Moron told us last week in our
21:11
Speaker 1: production meeting that the valuable reps were on Monday and
21:15
Speaker 1: Tuesday in the Ravens game. He said they were as
21:18
Speaker 1: valuable as preseason games without the risk that to me
21:22
Speaker 1: says they're more valuable. No brainer. All right, let's stay
21:24
Speaker 1: with Ponto Vidra Beach and go with Craig. My question
21:27
Speaker 1: relates to a phrase that I've heard used not only
21:30
Speaker 1: by you, but many in the NFL. The position is
21:32
Speaker 1: open to competition. How many positions the Jags currently have
21:36
Speaker 1: where there is no defensive start definative starter one month
21:40
Speaker 1: before the season starts. Well, I guess Craig Uh and
21:42
Speaker 1: I will agree to disagree because I don't actually use
21:45
Speaker 1: that phrase that much anymore, because there's not a whole
21:48
Speaker 1: lot of competition in the NFL for starting positions anymore.
21:51
Speaker 1: It's usually filled in in in free agency and the draft,
21:56
Speaker 1: the depth chart. It's rare to have a bunch of competition.
22:00
Speaker 1: You gre your coaches to say it, but you're not
22:01
Speaker 1: really competing for the starting job and training camp. Usually
22:05
Speaker 1: there are a couple of situations. This year, a right
22:07
Speaker 1: guard has become a competition. I think strong side linebacker
22:10
Speaker 1: was gonna be a competition, but it's usually positions like that.
22:13
Speaker 1: Not to downgrade those, but a right guard as a competition.
22:18
Speaker 1: You might have competition, uh at the receiver position. To
22:21
Speaker 1: see exactly who will start a d J chart. Chris
22:24
Speaker 1: Conley and u um D Westbrook. But that might be
22:30
Speaker 1: competition for who's on the starting in the depth chart,
22:34
Speaker 1: but we all know those are sort of the three
22:36
Speaker 1: guys who are going to be most in the offense.
22:38
Speaker 1: So a competition and training camp with rare exceptions is
22:41
Speaker 1: sort of a myth these days. Coaches use that because
22:44
Speaker 1: they can't stand up and say, hey, we've only got
22:46
Speaker 1: two jobs open at the start camp. They use it
22:50
Speaker 1: all the time. In fact, Doug has famously said in
22:52
Speaker 1: each of his start of camp meetings, I don't care
22:56
Speaker 1: whether you were drafted, I don't care whether you were
22:59
Speaker 1: a rookie free agent. I don't care what position where
23:02
Speaker 1: you're at. You have a chance to make this team well,
23:05
Speaker 1: and that's how coaches look at it, right, that's but
23:09
Speaker 1: but we don't the roster. Yeah, how many jobs? Would
23:16
Speaker 1: you say? How many jobs? That? Right? But depth chart?
23:23
Speaker 1: No bottom of the roster, Yes, because there are guys
23:25
Speaker 1: like got Diarie Brady and not Tray McBride and guys
23:28
Speaker 1: like that who I think are fighting for. There's probably
23:31
Speaker 1: a spot at most positions open at the bottom for
23:34
Speaker 1: the guy who plays the best on special teams for
23:36
Speaker 1: that one spot, ye not many. All right, let's wrap
23:39
Speaker 1: it up with Rob, who has a story. This is
23:42
Speaker 1: a long one. I don't know if I'm ready for this.
23:44
Speaker 1: I didn't even type it all. I drove up to
23:47
Speaker 1: Baltimore for the first preseason game. I knew most of
23:49
Speaker 1: the starters wouldn't play. I knew to keep my expectations limited.
23:52
Speaker 1: I love being able to see my Jags in person
23:55
Speaker 1: and will always make an effort to see them any
23:57
Speaker 1: time there within driving distance. Well, and I included this
24:01
Speaker 1: because the preseason is a topic and there are fans
24:05
Speaker 1: mad about it, because fans like to get mad about anything,
24:07
Speaker 1: and because it's it's a difficult watch and you feel
24:12
Speaker 1: like you're paying for it, even if they are technically
24:14
Speaker 1: free bright you know, um, all that stuff. I think
24:17
Speaker 1: the best way to approach a preseason game again, I
24:20
Speaker 1: remember when I was a kid. Um, I went to
24:22
Speaker 1: a couple of preseason games when they were in Tampa.
24:25
Speaker 1: When the Skins were playing in Tampa, and I knew
24:27
Speaker 1: they weren't playing and it didn't matter, but as a
24:31
Speaker 1: as a kid, the chance to be in the same
24:33
Speaker 1: area as my favorite team, it was really cool. I
24:37
Speaker 1: think that's how you sort after approach preseason games. If
24:40
Speaker 1: if you want to come down and see people you've
24:41
Speaker 1: been around, be around the Jaguars, be around the environment. Fine,
24:45
Speaker 1: but just know that that's what it's gonna be, and
24:49
Speaker 1: not think it's gonna be a regular season game. Don't
24:51
Speaker 1: come down here thinking you're gonna get like great competition
24:53
Speaker 1: and great drama. That's not what it is. If you
24:56
Speaker 1: can take that approach and enjoy being around it, then
24:58
Speaker 1: it's it can still be a good time. I think
25:00
Speaker 1: that's what preseason games are, right. Yeah, you know, in
25:02
Speaker 1: twenty five years of doing this, there are a couple
25:04
Speaker 1: of preseason games that I remember, right the Hall of
25:06
Speaker 1: Fame game, the first one nine. Uh yeah, I know
25:14
Speaker 1: I've forgotten about that because not a happy night. I remember.
25:16
Speaker 1: I remember a two thousand two we played at the
25:19
Speaker 1: University of Illinois right in Champagne. You were gone at
25:22
Speaker 1: that point, but the Bears were renovating Soldier Field and
25:24
Speaker 1: so the preseason games were there and that was that
25:27
Speaker 1: was that was fun. That was different. It was new. Um,
25:30
Speaker 1: but there are there are so few of those. They
25:33
Speaker 1: just they come and they go. In two thousand five
25:36
Speaker 1: or six, no us, it was two thousand seven. We
25:38
Speaker 1: went to Green Bay and that's a special setting, right.
25:42
Speaker 1: I think you could have it without the preseason games,
25:44
Speaker 1: you know, but they have a special setting up there.
25:47
Speaker 1: Not many people don't remember them. They don't remember the context,
25:50
Speaker 1: they don't remember the outcome. They move on. They don't
25:53
Speaker 1: hold as much value as some would like you to believe.
25:56
Speaker 1: They used to hold a lot of money, but now
25:58
Speaker 1: even they don't hold that. Yeah, Nick Fole setted himself
26:01
Speaker 1: in his press conference that you don't really ask guys
26:03
Speaker 1: about training camp in a few weeks because it's such
26:05
Speaker 1: a blur that they don't remember. We won't talk about
26:07
Speaker 1: it at all once the regular season begins, unless something
26:11
Speaker 1: happened in a particular camp than that really does anymore.
26:14
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26:16
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Speaker 1: He's always typing. We call it the busiest man in
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, that's you. Ready for Ashlyn? Ask is
28:49
Speaker 1: there anyone you're worried about not making this team at
28:53
Speaker 1: this point, it could even be an employee. John, it
28:59
Speaker 1: could be you. I'm always already about that. Is there
29:05
Speaker 1: anyone you're worried about not making this team? There was, Yeah,
29:13
Speaker 1: you're hesitant. There's this one guy. Well, I want to
29:17
Speaker 1: explain it. It'll all make sense, all right, John, what
29:20
Speaker 1: you got? Um, I can't say I'm worried, and I've
29:24
Speaker 1: always a lot of sleep over the issue. But Uh,
29:27
Speaker 1: I thought at the beginning of camp that at Terrell
29:29
Speaker 1: Prior was having a really good chance to make it
29:34
Speaker 1: Um because of the big body, and I think he
29:36
Speaker 1: still might make it. But he's a name guy that
29:40
Speaker 1: I think will be interesting during that count during that
29:42
Speaker 1: cut down to fifty three. I think we talked about
29:44
Speaker 1: it on Monday, Brian. Um. The fact that if you
29:47
Speaker 1: keep him, you're on the hook for complete salary because
29:50
Speaker 1: of his years in the league and just because of
29:53
Speaker 1: the numbers that receiver not playing special teams. Uh, he's
29:58
Speaker 1: a guy just signed in I think May so he's
30:03
Speaker 1: the guy I'll watched for that weekend and I you know,
30:06
Speaker 1: he's been nicked up to the last couple of days
30:08
Speaker 1: and hasn't been a full participant in practice, so that
30:10
Speaker 1: it does bear some watching. So I thought a J
30:14
Speaker 1: Can might have trouble with it, even though he signed
30:16
Speaker 1: a three year deal right um, because will Richardson is
30:20
Speaker 1: likely to win that spot. And when you put a
30:23
Speaker 1: J Can next to will Richardson, a canis started sixty
30:25
Speaker 1: two games including the playoffs. Um, so he's had some
30:29
Speaker 1: success in his career. But size wise they are so
30:31
Speaker 1: completely different. And I keep hearing that it's it's will
30:34
Speaker 1: Richardson's job to lose, that he has looked that good. Um,
30:39
Speaker 1: and they've moved Can and they're working him. But Can
30:42
Speaker 1: has six million dollars in dead money, six million that
30:45
Speaker 1: they would absorb this year, and I think they have
30:46
Speaker 1: about eight and a half million total. He's going nowhere.
30:49
Speaker 1: But if money wasn't the factor, I would wonder if
30:52
Speaker 1: there weren't some young guys who might not surplant him,
30:56
Speaker 1: young guys with potential and a much lower salary cap figure.
30:59
Speaker 1: There's also a factor there. He can snap. So coaches
31:04
Speaker 1: like to have three centers around that they trust. Uh
31:07
Speaker 1: Tyler Shatley Can, Well, there's a guy. Then Shatley is
31:10
Speaker 1: a guy who uh will have to defeat Can because
31:14
Speaker 1: Shatley is only making a million dollars and I think
31:17
Speaker 1: there's only a hundred thousand of that. That's dead money.
31:19
Speaker 1: When you get to the numbers game of how many
31:21
Speaker 1: you're going to keep active on game day and who
31:23
Speaker 1: they're going to be, and do you want a guard
31:25
Speaker 1: and a tackle or do you want two guys who
31:27
Speaker 1: can play tackle? You know you have to kind of
31:29
Speaker 1: figure this thing out. Shatley could be a guy who
31:32
Speaker 1: could be left out of the mix depending on how
31:34
Speaker 1: it rolls. And they both make it both way center
31:37
Speaker 1: and done much that the other day. All right, next, Ash,
31:40
Speaker 1: ask your biggest takeaway from our days at training camp
31:44
Speaker 1: as a whole, and John, you can't say it was hot,
31:47
Speaker 1: because yes it was hot. Your biggest takeaway player person
31:52
Speaker 1: experience from training camp? Um, I won't say, well, miss
31:58
Speaker 1: those three hour days on the field, but there were
32:01
Speaker 1: some good times. Um what John, I'm ready, I'm gonna
32:13
Speaker 1: say the deep ball and uh I, I've got a
32:17
Speaker 1: couple of emails saying, well, it sounds like the offense
32:20
Speaker 1: is out playing the defense and I don't know that
32:23
Speaker 1: that's true. I mean, we talk a lot about the
32:26
Speaker 1: offense in training camp because it's it's the easiest thing
32:30
Speaker 1: to see and it's what stands out. There's no hitting,
32:32
Speaker 1: so you don't talk about the defense as much you
32:34
Speaker 1: do the offense. We also talked about the offense. It
32:36
Speaker 1: looks better than last year, and I think the big
32:39
Speaker 1: area that it looks better is the fact that you
32:41
Speaker 1: are seeing them consistently. Once or twice a practice. You'll
32:45
Speaker 1: see DJ Chart get open or Chris Conny get open
32:48
Speaker 1: or DD get open that you hadn't seen before. And
32:51
Speaker 1: they make the deep past look easier and more and
32:54
Speaker 1: more routine than it was in the past. So they're
32:57
Speaker 1: gonna do it. They believe they can work the ball deep.
33:00
Speaker 1: Uh so I think you're gonna see that more. Has
33:01
Speaker 1: a been impressive in training camp At times I don't
33:04
Speaker 1: even I don't even show it to you. But philosophies change, right. Um.
33:09
Speaker 1: Two years ago we talked about Doug Morone and an
33:12
Speaker 1: old school camp. Remember they went to New England and
33:15
Speaker 1: all the pictures were shocked and and the media to
33:19
Speaker 1: what they're doing updowns in the NFL. I mean this
33:22
Speaker 1: was old school at a time when old school was
33:24
Speaker 1: long gone. Um, Dougs Camp is radically different. He did
33:30
Speaker 1: not play starters in the first preseason game and is
33:33
Speaker 1: not playing them in the second preseason. Philosophies changed. There
33:36
Speaker 1: was one point, I forget whether it was Heeling Cole
33:38
Speaker 1: or Tyree Brady, took a wicked shot on the sideline
33:42
Speaker 1: from one of the Ravens defensive backs on a long pass,
33:45
Speaker 1: and everyone that I was standing around all NFL people
33:48
Speaker 1: are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, look at it. But that
33:51
Speaker 1: was what that was what practice was, right. You hit,
33:54
Speaker 1: you practiced hitting. It wasn't a dirty hit, it wasn't
33:58
Speaker 1: a cheap shot. It was just too good, solid hit.
34:01
Speaker 1: And people like, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, stay up, stay up.
34:03
Speaker 1: You can't even hit and practice now, right, Philosophies have changed,
34:07
Speaker 1: which is why I'm all in on how the preseason
34:09
Speaker 1: is going to change so dramatically, because the coaches are
34:12
Speaker 1: all in on how practice has changed. They may not
34:14
Speaker 1: want it, but they've accepted it because they would much
34:18
Speaker 1: rather Doug Moron would much rather you rant and rave
34:21
Speaker 1: about what he does or does not do in the
34:23
Speaker 1: regular season than about what he does in the preseason,
34:26
Speaker 1: because all he's trying to do is have his horses
34:28
Speaker 1: at the starting line. Yeah. I think the first time
34:31
Speaker 1: I noticed it was changing is the first day of
34:34
Speaker 1: practice at camp. Everyone lines up for gassers and he
34:37
Speaker 1: cancels them. Hey, last year there was no canceling because
34:40
Speaker 1: you don't want to hamstring, right. I would love to
34:42
Speaker 1: see Tom Coughlin in charge of training camp again, um,
34:46
Speaker 1: if only to see if his philosophy had changed. And
34:49
Speaker 1: I know he wrote a book. I've read the book.
34:51
Speaker 1: Things have changed with him. He understands it. It's not
34:53
Speaker 1: like he's a dinosaur and can't see how the league
34:56
Speaker 1: has changed. But it's so dramatic. It's just that me is.
35:00
Speaker 1: My takeaway from camp is we have now entered the
35:02
Speaker 1: point where dramatic change is not long time coming way
35:07
Speaker 1: off in the future. It's don't be surprised if things
35:10
Speaker 1: change next year or the year after. They've done it
35:13
Speaker 1: with the rules, they've done it with the kickoffs, they've
35:15
Speaker 1: done it. They can do it again. It can be
35:17
Speaker 1: I've started it now, all right. Let's move on to
35:19
Speaker 1: game day preseason Game two presented by pet Paradise. Who
35:24
Speaker 1: needs to have a big game on Thursday? Whether to
35:27
Speaker 1: make this team to prove it to the coaches that
35:29
Speaker 1: they can play to get more reps in the regular season.
35:32
Speaker 1: All on all, Who needs to have a good performance
35:34
Speaker 1: on Thursday, preseason against the Philadelphia Eagles. Yes it will
35:42
Speaker 1: be hot, Yes it's preseason, but John will be there.
35:45
Speaker 1: What more do you need? Yah'll be all right. Um.
35:54
Speaker 1: The obvious choice here is Gardner Minshew. So I didn't
35:56
Speaker 1: go with that. Uh, he needs to play better. I
35:59
Speaker 1: don't know the needs to play better to make the team.
36:01
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be the backup quarterback, but you'd
36:03
Speaker 1: like to see him play better. I'm gonna go with
36:05
Speaker 1: Tray McBride. He's a fourth year guy. Uh, he's a
36:08
Speaker 1: wide receiver. He looked good in practice yesterday. He was
36:12
Speaker 1: lauded by Doug Morone after the Baltimore game. And I
36:16
Speaker 1: think he's a guy because he plays special teams, because
36:18
Speaker 1: he's experienced. I think he has a chance to make
36:20
Speaker 1: the roster. Uh. Signed as a tryout guy in May
36:25
Speaker 1: off of a tryout minicamp, so it would be a
36:27
Speaker 1: heck of a story. But because he's a good special
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Speaker 1: teams player and because he continues to make plays, he
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Speaker 1: might have a chance at that wide receiver spot. And
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Speaker 1: nobody's talked about him yet, No, we haven't. That's I mean,
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Speaker 1: we talked about Tyree Brady and that wide receiver battle,
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Speaker 1: but no, he has not been brought up. So it's
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Speaker 1: definitely a lofty back. All right, go ahead, Brian, I'm
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Speaker 1: going with the dwant. But he had a strong showing
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Speaker 1: with a couple of good pass rushes in Baltimore the
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Speaker 1: other night. But there are numbers there. So he's a
36:58
Speaker 1: big end obviously. And he's battle Dayton Jones, who was
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Speaker 1: a first round pick with Dom Capers in Green Bay
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Speaker 1: and has bounced around the league. But Dayton Jones had
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Speaker 1: a really good week of practice last week, not as
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Speaker 1: good this week from what I'm hearing, But that's a
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Speaker 1: battle smooth, a draft pick and is a guy in
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Speaker 1: general manager and coaches want to keep their own players,
37:21
Speaker 1: so they'd love to keep him. If he has another
37:24
Speaker 1: big night tonight, I'm sorry tomorrow night. I think he's
37:28
Speaker 1: got a shot to make this team. He's had a
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Speaker 1: good camp, he's spend it off challenges, um, but he
37:34
Speaker 1: can't he can't take a deep breath and say well
37:36
Speaker 1: I had a good week. He's gotta put him. He's
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Speaker 1: gotta stack him up and have another one this week.
37:41
Speaker 1: You're right, it's his spot to lose because you want
37:45
Speaker 1: to keep draft picks and because there's something you like
37:47
Speaker 1: about him when you draft him. So it's encouraging. It's
37:52
Speaker 1: really the first time that you've heard the coaches talk
37:56
Speaker 1: about him in this way. Maybe the lights coming on.
37:59
Speaker 1: Maybe he can be good Debt, But I think he
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Speaker 1: doesn't need to play well in these last two preseason
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Speaker 1: if you're playing in the fourth game. It's definitely a
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Speaker 1: start top tweets with Brandon Graham at defensive end for
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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. He has a little story on Nick
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Speaker 1: Foles to start top tweets. He was talking about after season,
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Speaker 1: you know, because he was just saying, you know, pushing
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Speaker 1: through some of the injuries that he had, that it
40:21
Speaker 1: was a little much. And now I was like, man,
40:24
Speaker 1: look at him. Not won the Super Bowl, got him
40:27
Speaker 1: a nice fat contract, you know, and uh, leading leading
40:31
Speaker 1: a great one, the great organization that Jacksone did. So.
40:35
Speaker 1: A former teammate of Nick Foles said that they had
40:37
Speaker 1: a conversation before the start of the two thousand seventeen
40:40
Speaker 1: season the Nick Fole was going to retire because of injuries.
40:42
Speaker 1: And now you think what he would have missed if
40:45
Speaker 1: he did retire all the way back then, especially now
40:48
Speaker 1: being in Jacksonville and starting this two thousand nineteen season. Yeah,
40:54
Speaker 1: he was in a dark place in amity. He wasn't sure.
40:57
Speaker 1: I think there were a lot of reasons from what
40:59
Speaker 1: I've read and and heard Nick say that he was
41:02
Speaker 1: considering giving up the game. Uh, and yeah, thank goodness
41:06
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars he did. And I mean, I don't
41:08
Speaker 1: know how serious the elbow stuff was that has been
41:14
Speaker 1: mentioned with this. I'm assuming that that's okay. I certainly,
41:17
Speaker 1: I hope it's okay. But beyond that, it's a great story. Um,
41:21
Speaker 1: you're listening to him last week when he came to
41:23
Speaker 1: our production meeting, and he talked about just his overall
41:27
Speaker 1: philosophy of of how he works with his teammates, how
41:31
Speaker 1: his his goal is to make you better and you better. Um,
41:35
Speaker 1: you can make me better. But well, I mean, come on,
41:38
Speaker 1: I know I won't into that. One ship is sale, right,
41:43
Speaker 1: But you don't hear football players. You hear select football
41:48
Speaker 1: players talking that way. You mostly hear, well, I gotta
41:52
Speaker 1: be my thing and I'd focus on what I have
41:54
Speaker 1: to do. You don't hear that. Um. I thought it
41:57
Speaker 1: was special, and I think the Jaguars would be missing
42:00
Speaker 1: that because if he is going to do what he
42:03
Speaker 1: wants to do, he's going to have to show his
42:05
Speaker 1: teammates how to do it. He did it in Philadelphia twice.
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Speaker 1: He's got the body of work to be able to
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Speaker 1: do it. As you get the equity of the rain
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Speaker 1: and and the players don't want to use the word reverent,
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Speaker 1: but they are almost reverent towards him and the way
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Speaker 1: that he's done things. He told the story about how
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Speaker 1: Chris Conley had to convince his teammates that it's okay
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Speaker 1: to touch his towel. Conny came over and huddle one
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Speaker 1: of the first o t s and use his hand
42:28
Speaker 1: or used bowls towel to wipe his hands, and and
42:32
Speaker 1: there was like a look of like shock on the
42:34
Speaker 1: part of the other receivers, like you touched the quarterback style,
42:36
Speaker 1: Like dude, He's just you know you can, you can
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Speaker 1: do it right. He's just got this sort of aura
42:42
Speaker 1: about him. And I think football would be less without
42:46
Speaker 1: a guy like that. I think it's great for the
42:49
Speaker 1: game to have a person like that who's had such
42:52
Speaker 1: tremendous success still in the game. Brian, you and I
42:55
Speaker 1: both read his book, and he goes into great detail
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Speaker 1: about that two thousand seventeen season, what he was going
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Speaker 1: through mentally and physically. Definitely worth reading because you definitely
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Speaker 1: understand the journey better and a better appreciation for it now.
43:05
Speaker 1: He's a special guy, there's no doubt about it, and
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are better off having him. Ye and top
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Speaker 1: Feata is basically dedicated to Nick Foles because we have
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Speaker 1: another one from a columist from Philly dot Com who
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Speaker 1: was at training camp practice yesterday and tweeted out this
43:18
Speaker 1: Nick Foles. Nick Foles ran ten fifty yards sprints after
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Speaker 1: a three hour practice in full pads alone after every
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Speaker 1: other player went into the locker room. The heat index
43:28
Speaker 1: is a hundred into degrees. Now this is normal news,
43:31
Speaker 1: dust guys, because we see this every day, we see
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles running alone. But to someone who's visiting the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars who hasn't been used to this, I understand why.
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Speaker 1: It's definitely something we're tweeting in something you're not used
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Speaker 1: to see. He's dedicated. The special ones have their thing
43:45
Speaker 1: that they do, that they believe and this is always
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Speaker 1: something Nick believes he needs and he dedicated to it
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Speaker 1: and to do it yesterday. Uh, I wouldn't do it.
43:58
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. Remember that in Philadelphia he was
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Speaker 1: the backup and all the attention is always on Carson Wentz.
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Speaker 1: So if the reporters from Philly who were here watching
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Speaker 1: Nick are paying attention and seeing things for the first time,
44:11
Speaker 1: it's because in the last two training camps he wasn't
44:13
Speaker 1: the man. And it's of note that now that he
44:16
Speaker 1: has his own team, his approach to us, it's consistent
44:20
Speaker 1: because he tells us that. But the people from Philly
44:22
Speaker 1: are evaluating it, and I think at some point in
44:24
Speaker 1: time this season, people are gonna go, man, it's too
44:27
Speaker 1: bad Nick Foles isn't here in Philly. No, it's true.
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Speaker 1: You think he is the man here. So we're so
44:31
Speaker 1: used to watching every single move he makes. But to them,
44:34
Speaker 1: they're not used to that. I hope he was the
44:35
Speaker 1: backup and the guy who almost left the game behind
44:38
Speaker 1: and and had been there once and had a bad
44:41
Speaker 1: season in fifteen and was a backup in sixteen. Yeah,
44:43
Speaker 1: there's a long history there, but here he starts as
44:47
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl m v P. Completely different for him
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Speaker 1: here than there. Alright, let's wrap up top tweets with
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Speaker 1: Gardner Mints shows Instagram posts. We all saw the hit
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Speaker 1: on the goal line, and we all saw this photo.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't look good. Gardner Minshew does not copy right there,
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Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, Man, I would not want
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Speaker 1: to post that picture of myself. It's not flattering. What
45:06
Speaker 1: does he do? He posted and says but a caption
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Speaker 1: It's a night I'll never forget. I loved it, poking
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Speaker 1: fun at himself. Yeah, I would never post that and tonight,
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Speaker 1: I'll never forget with the foo man shoe. He looks
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Speaker 1: like a quarterback who played in the seventies. Pick one right,
45:23
Speaker 1: I made anyone they had their helmets knocked off routinely
45:26
Speaker 1: and no flags were called. That's kind of an old
45:29
Speaker 1: school photo. And I get the sense that he kind
45:31
Speaker 1: of appreciates that, kind of has that old school swagger
45:34
Speaker 1: about in that seventies style. Um not unlike our own
45:39
Speaker 1: producer Joe Fortunato. I thought if I actually been called
45:41
Speaker 1: that play that I was so surprised I did. It
45:43
Speaker 1: made us all go, we're back in the chain. Yeah.
45:46
Speaker 1: But anyway, anyways, Joy Betty posted it, uh, and that
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Speaker 1: he can kind of enjoy it himself. For him, well look, folks,
45:53
Speaker 1: if you don't know this already, you better laugh at
45:54
Speaker 1: yourself because everyone else is. Yeah, especially after that game.
45:57
Speaker 1: But you feel for him, and hopefully his chin strap
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Speaker 1: tightened this week. I'm sure the message was sent, I
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Speaker 1: hope to the equipment guys. All right, we'll be back
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Speaker 1: on Jaguars Drivetime tomorrow morning giving you a preview of
46:08
Speaker 1: that Jaguars versus Eagles preseason game. We will see you
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Speaker 1: tomorrow