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Wired To Hunt Podcast #236: Rut Radio 9/26/18 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This is episode number two hundred
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Speaker 1: and thirty six, and today in the show, we are
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Speaker 1: here again with another radio report, getting updates from across
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Speaker 1: the country on the latest white tail activity, conditions, behavior,
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Speaker 1: and the tactics that are working right this very moment.
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Speaker 1: All right, and welcome to this week's episode of Wired
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Speaker 1: to hunts wrote Radio, brought to you by Onyx. This
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Speaker 1: is your host spent anymore. And on the other side
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Speaker 1: of the line is Mark, who is yet again slacking
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Speaker 1: in front of a computer, so have him on his
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Speaker 1: cell phone. How's it going, Mark, you know, doing the
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Speaker 1: best I can here man. I'm driving home to Montana
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Speaker 1: right now. Um been l cutting over the past well
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Speaker 1: for five days, I was l cutting, and then I've
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Speaker 1: had a day and a half meetings and then it
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Speaker 1: was right to the truck and onto the road, try
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Speaker 1: and get home times, spent a little time in the
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Speaker 1: family and then be ready for the Michigan Archery opener.
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Speaker 1: So I'm very excited about all the aboves. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: don't take back the slacking thing. How do you feel
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Speaker 1: about the Michigan opener? You will be hunting on Monday? Correct? Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: Michigan opens on Monday. I'm really excited about it. Last
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Speaker 1: time I checked the weather, I've been. I've been as
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Speaker 1: long as the fifteen day outlook has been available. I've
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Speaker 1: been checking it out, and it's pretty good as far
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Speaker 1: as it gets not too hot. Um, it looks like
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Speaker 1: we're gonna have like just below averaged temperatures maybe, which
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Speaker 1: is usually a great thing. The only downside is that
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Speaker 1: those temperatures have been in place for a while now,
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Speaker 1: so it's gonna be like almost a week of like
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Speaker 1: sixty degree temperatures leading up to the opener. It's not
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Speaker 1: like it was really warm and then all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden we had that front hit. I think that usually
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Speaker 1: those temperatures I know you're not necessarily believe are on this,
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Speaker 1: but I feel like you get some that best activity
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Speaker 1: right when the change occurs. Just after the change. There's
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Speaker 1: not so much change in this situation, so I think
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Speaker 1: it'll be pretty decent. Um. It definitely bad, but I'm
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Speaker 1: not looking at it as like one of those blessed
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Speaker 1: cold fronts that get everything up and moving. Uh. So
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Speaker 1: that's my high level thought process at least. Yeah, a
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Speaker 1: lot of the people that I've talked to have referenced,
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Speaker 1: like today September as being one of the days to
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Speaker 1: be out there because this is at the beginning of
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Speaker 1: that cold front rout. Fresh people were talking about as
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Speaker 1: well that we're providing reports. So uh, you know, if
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Speaker 1: you're listening to this, the end of this week is
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Speaker 1: is going to be pretty solid or people are optimistic
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Speaker 1: at least for for that cold front. Hunting it right now? Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think, Um, it's a great time of being the woods,
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Speaker 1: you know, for people's seasons that are just opening. It's
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Speaker 1: really nice because you've got the limited hunting pressure since
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Speaker 1: mostly no one has been out up to this point,
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Speaker 1: plus the good weather. I mean, this could be one
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Speaker 1: of your better chances of the year, at least before
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Speaker 1: the rut. So I'm gonna when I'll be hunting one
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Speaker 1: of my better early season stands and uh take a
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Speaker 1: stab on the Holy Field property and that doesn't work out,
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Speaker 1: I'll kind of back out and reassess the plan. But
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Speaker 1: opening night will be highly anticipated. Evening Master. Sure, Well,
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Speaker 1: I have not been hunting for a while now. I
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Speaker 1: think it's been over two weeks probably since I've been
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Speaker 1: in a tree stand. And like I said last week,
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of saving up those wife vacation days because
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Speaker 1: I'll are burning them here as soon as we get
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Speaker 1: off the phone. I haven't an a little punt this weekend, um,
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Speaker 1: and then after I get home from that, it is
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Speaker 1: like craziness until December. I have I don't know if
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Speaker 1: we've talked about this, but I have nine buck tags
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Speaker 1: this fall, so I will be busy once yea, once
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Speaker 1: we hit mid October, like then through December, I will
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Speaker 1: be maximum amount of haunting. So that is why I've
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Speaker 1: kind of taken my foot off of the gas pedal
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Speaker 1: for right now. I guess that's reasonable. If if your
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Speaker 1: wife's gonna let you go chase nine buck tack down,
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Speaker 1: I suppose you could take a few weeks off on
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Speaker 1: the front end to give her a little time of attention.
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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. So on this week's episode, we
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Speaker 1: talked to Dave Bechtel from Chase Nation TV in Wisconsin.
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Speaker 1: Then we go to Tennessee and from down south hunting
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Speaker 1: it's Adam Cruz, and then we talked to Jake greg
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Speaker 1: Is from Daybreak Ranch in South Dakota and then from
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Speaker 1: Louisiana Bowl Hunter in Louisiana is Kyler Moppert, all Right,
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Speaker 1: sound like a great diversity of characters in areas. I
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Speaker 1: like that. I'm looking forward to hearing this one, especially since, um,
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Speaker 1: especially since I'll be actually hunting now white It's been
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Speaker 1: a little bit kind of like you, I had a
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Speaker 1: three weeks break from white tails, and that's kind of
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Speaker 1: been hurt my soul. So I'm ready to get after it.
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Speaker 1: So one thing I wanted to bring up was that
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Speaker 1: Jake from South Dakota brings it up on this week's episode.
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Speaker 1: He also brought it up in a rout Fresh report
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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, and for me when he when
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Speaker 1: he said this, he was kind of a lightbulb moment um.
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Speaker 1: Last year, the night before I killed that big buck,
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Speaker 1: which is two days from now September, the night before that, UM,
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Speaker 1: I had a couple younger bucks, like two and a
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Speaker 1: half or three and a half year olds, come towards
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Speaker 1: the cornfield and they bed down before they got there,
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Speaker 1: and they basically stayed there until evening and then got
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Speaker 1: up and moved around. The next night, I saw it
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Speaker 1: again with a younger buck that he had came out
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Speaker 1: and bedded until like thirty minutes before shooting light ended,
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Speaker 1: and got up and went into the corner and it
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Speaker 1: was just like a really weird um and a kind
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Speaker 1: of a transition, betting that they had done right at sunset.
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Speaker 1: And Jake brings that up on this week's episode to
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Speaker 1: how that's something he's seen in the past, and he's
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Speaker 1: already seen it two or three times this year, and
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Speaker 1: we haunt similar areas. Now we're a few hundred miles apart,
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Speaker 1: but when I say similar areas, I mean big agriculture.
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Speaker 1: So if that's something that you've seen before, this is uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, really fascinating me that we both witnessed this
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Speaker 1: now kind of that end of September thing, uh slide
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Speaker 1: into my d M S. I'd love to to get
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Speaker 1: more reports on this same thing. Is that something you've
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Speaker 1: ever seen, Mark, that you've noticed bucks kind of going
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Speaker 1: into like a micro bed right before sunset? You know,
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I have to. I've heard of
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Speaker 1: similar stuff like that. I mean it makes sense. I've
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Speaker 1: seen like Doo's bonds definitely do that. I've seen like
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Speaker 1: a fawn or Doe come out feat for a little
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Speaker 1: bit and go use me, then go back in bed,
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Speaker 1: like just inside the edge of the timber or the cover. Um.
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Speaker 1: But I can't say I've seen Bucks do that, at
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Speaker 1: least not off the top of my head. So that's
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Speaker 1: the trust thing I order. I'm serious that that's about
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Speaker 1: it makes. I mean, I can sort of understand it.
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Speaker 1: They're going to move out survey of the situation, but
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Speaker 1: they're not quite ready to go out to the wide
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Speaker 1: open yet, so they're gonna hold off a little bit
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Speaker 1: because it's kind of like just prolonged the transitionary period.
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Speaker 1: I mean, is that kind of how you're staying it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Jake goes into more detail on it in the episode,
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Speaker 1: so you know, we don't have to go into it
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Speaker 1: too much more. But it's a trend that I'm fascinated
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Speaker 1: in tracking if other people have seen this too, like
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Speaker 1: this betting after the betting before going to food, so
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Speaker 1: that that's something that you know, with these late September
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Speaker 1: early October hunts, I'd be interested if other people witnessed
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Speaker 1: it all as well. Very interesting. I will be interested
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Speaker 1: to hear what he has to say about So maybe
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Speaker 1: we should shut up and get our run the party,
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Speaker 1: guest intrbutors on the line, all right, talk to you
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Speaker 1: next week. Mark. Thank you Spencer. Before we get to
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Speaker 1: our first update, let's pause for a word from our
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Speaker 1: we are joined by Dave Skinner, a land specialist out
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Speaker 1: of Kentucky, and Davy is going to be telling us
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Speaker 1: about what to look for when buying a property with
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Speaker 1: intentions of early season white tail hunting in Kentucky. Our
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Speaker 1: season comes in in September, and if you're looking specifically
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Speaker 1: the line first is Dave Bechtel out of Wisconsin from
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Speaker 1: Chase Nation TV. Now, Dave in Wisconsin, what would you
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Speaker 1: say the bucket activity has been lately on a scale
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Speaker 1: of one to ten on a steel one king at
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Speaker 1: say either a five or six. Right now the opening
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Speaker 1: part of the season, UM is extremely hot, UM higher
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Speaker 1: tempters and we normally have had UM so that's shut
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Speaker 1: down a lot of activity. And just this last week
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Speaker 1: we hit a cold front and gears started to be
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Speaker 1: on their feet. It's not super crazy, but now but um,
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Speaker 1: within the last couple of days they're starting to see
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Speaker 1: some people seating gear and a lot more activity. I
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Speaker 1: mean we've had a twenty degree difference within the last
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. You took advantage of that cold front. Dave,
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Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about that setup where you
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Speaker 1: shot that nice white tail. Yeah, it was an area
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Speaker 1: that had scouted a bunch next to the season and
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Speaker 1: it's it's actually pretty sweet. It's a cameracks swamp up
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Speaker 1: a ton of cat tails, a ton of water that
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Speaker 1: puts up to a bean field and then has a
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Speaker 1: treeline that is just loaded with oaks. So it's a
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Speaker 1: perfect scenario as far as if they're in the oaks,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna be a getting them on the tree line.
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Speaker 1: But if it's in the bean field, you know you're
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Speaker 1: right there. And I was set up in a speeding area,
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Speaker 1: were on a transition right, Um, you know, when it
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Speaker 1: worked like clockwork, I ended up seeing a nice buck.
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Speaker 1: I thought the hunt was over and then next thing
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Speaker 1: I know, um, here this block came. He came right
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Speaker 1: out of the cat tails. Um but ten to fifteen
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Speaker 1: minutes before close and I was fortunate enough to make
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Speaker 1: a good shot at him, and you know, I had
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Speaker 1: a twenty yard recovery. So had those oaks not been there,
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Speaker 1: do you not think you would have had a chance
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Speaker 1: at that dear, I personally think he would head it
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Speaker 1: into the bean field. I do um a lot of
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Speaker 1: the oaks have dropped and then they were dropped in
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Speaker 1: leading up to the season. I do think there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of the ones on the ground right now. Um,
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Speaker 1: But I think he was probably working his way to
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Speaker 1: those beans. Um, because a lot of those um, we're
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Speaker 1: getting hit still. You know, I do a lot of
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Speaker 1: driving around at night, right before dark when I can't hunt, um,
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Speaker 1: trying to get a good gage on where I'm seeing gear.
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Speaker 1: And I was still catching a lot of deer out
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Speaker 1: in the bean field. Um. But with the temperatures being
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Speaker 1: the way they've done, they seem to be coming through
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Speaker 1: the beans. I mean right at dark. I mean, if
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Speaker 1: you're not set up within a certain range of the
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Speaker 1: bed or in the stage eunier, you of leading into
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Speaker 1: the to um, you're not seeing them. You mentioned on
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Speaker 1: that hunt that you saw another buck as well. Were
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Speaker 1: these two deer hanging out or are all the bachelor
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Speaker 1: groups around you broken out? They came in separate, um,
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Speaker 1: completely the separate. They were not running together. Um. My
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Speaker 1: wife is actually hunting on the edge of another bean
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Speaker 1: field not too far from me, and she had and
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Speaker 1: then something him with the figure block, and then I
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Speaker 1: had to um at the death that actually did come
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Speaker 1: through together. But I don't necessarily think they were in
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Speaker 1: the classroom groups still going. I mean, have you found
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Speaker 1: any signmaking start to appear then or do you think
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Speaker 1: we're little ways off that yet? As far as scrapes
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Speaker 1: and drubs, um, I have found some rubs um, not crazy. Uh,
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Speaker 1: few rubs have not been searching as of yet. You know.
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Speaker 1: On then in the beat it's strictly hunting and a
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Speaker 1: lot of areas and they go into It's either I
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Speaker 1: hang and hunt sum or I'm going in to kill um.
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Speaker 1: So I haven't done a lot of venturing just because
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Speaker 1: when the time has been right, I've been going in
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Speaker 1: to kill. Going forward. Then a six week or so,
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Speaker 1: what do you think that buckettivity is going to be
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Speaker 1: on a scale of one to tend in Wisconsin, skill
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Speaker 1: is one of ten. I think it's gonna start picking
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Speaker 1: up a bit. I would I would say solid six.
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Speaker 1: It's possibly even the seven year pulled front moving in.
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Speaker 1: I know Friday, we're supposed to have a more class
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Speaker 1: women in the highest fifty six. So Friday night with
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Speaker 1: the unit in the words I can start point. Congrats
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Speaker 1: on the great dear Dave, and thanks for joining me
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Speaker 1: and can alright and joining us on the line. Next
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Speaker 1: is Adam Cruise from Down South Hunting Podcast Tennessee. Now
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Speaker 1: Adam in Tennessee. What would you say the bucket activity
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Speaker 1: has been lately on a scale of one to ten.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, based off of troke cameras that I'm
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Speaker 1: running on our private farm in the southern part of Tennessee, Uh,
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Speaker 1: the movement's actually spiked, and I would put it around
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Speaker 1: a seven or an eight at this moment. Why do
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Speaker 1: you think that movement is spiked recently? You know, I
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Speaker 1: think it has a lot to do with where troke
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Speaker 1: cameras are positioned. Uh they're on side of sides of
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Speaker 1: ridges that hold all out of acorns, generally speaking, And
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Speaker 1: I think we've got these cameras and really good good
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Speaker 1: spots this year. A few weeks ago, we were barely
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Speaker 1: getting any bucks on camera at all, just maybe a
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Speaker 1: doe here and there. And then within the last week
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Speaker 1: or two, I'm getting hundreds of pictures of different different bucks.
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Speaker 1: I've probably got five new bucks that showed up on
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Speaker 1: camera within the last week. Not all of them are
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Speaker 1: mature bucks, but you know, just a ton of deer activity.
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Speaker 1: And I really think it's around, uh, the fact that
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Speaker 1: the acrons are now dropping and those deer kind of
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Speaker 1: moving into these traditional spots that they're in at this
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Speaker 1: time of year. How about other food sources? Do you
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Speaker 1: think the deer right now we're ignoring food plots and
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Speaker 1: soybeans stuff like that. I think it all depends on,
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Speaker 1: you know, what the situation the plot is. So on
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Speaker 1: the soybeans side, you know, if they're still green, Uh,
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Speaker 1: the deer will definitely be hitting them. And if if
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Speaker 1: I had access to stilly beans right now on on
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Speaker 1: some private ground, that's exactly where I would be hunting
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Speaker 1: until they turn brown. You mentioned you run around a
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Speaker 1: lot of trail cameras. That movement that you've been seeing,
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Speaker 1: is it mostly daytime or nighttime? It's about fifty fifty actually,
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Speaker 1: But when I say the of daytime, it's really it's
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Speaker 1: in that that dusk and dawntop situation. So right right
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Speaker 1: at first shooting light, we'll have deer hanging around for
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Speaker 1: maybe twenty minutes, and then kind of the same scenario
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Speaker 1: at the back half of the day, the deer starts
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Speaker 1: showing up maybe twenty minutes before the shooting light ends. Uh,
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Speaker 1: And then I'm getting some pictures of some dose dur
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the day. But as far as
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Speaker 1: the buck movement, there in the middle of the day.
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Speaker 1: I'm not getting just hardly any It mostly is at
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Speaker 1: night and then right there at first and last light.
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Speaker 1: So if we were trying to get in on these
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Speaker 1: deer right now in the morning, it would pretty much
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Speaker 1: be impossible unless we picked their their right bed that
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Speaker 1: they were going to, and then we might be able
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Speaker 1: to have some success. Really, the way to arrow a
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Speaker 1: buck right now is to actually be able to hunt
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Speaker 1: those evenings and get in there on them. Is that
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Speaker 1: something you think will change over these next few weeks
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Speaker 1: or our acorn is going to be the focus for
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Speaker 1: a while. It's gonna be my focus all the way
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Speaker 1: through October, really, and that's my main food source that
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Speaker 1: a hunt on on my private private land, and i'm
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Speaker 1: public land. I got some other areas that I can
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Speaker 1: hunt where there's some corns that's standing right now, and
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Speaker 1: as soon as that's cut, you know, I'm gonna be
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Speaker 1: heading hitting there as fast as I can and hopefully
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Speaker 1: beat everyone else there. Are you seeing any kind of
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Speaker 1: ruddy activity in the woods to this point as far
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Speaker 1: as scrapes or rubs, I'm not seeing any scrapes or rugs,
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Speaker 1: But I am getting some some deer on camera sparring,
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Speaker 1: which is always really fun to watch and have have
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Speaker 1: pictures of that. Well, how do you think the weather
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Speaker 1: changes things this time of year if we get a
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Speaker 1: good cold front or if a warm front comes through instead.
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Speaker 1: You know, this time of year, I'm just not certain
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Speaker 1: that the weather has that much effect when it actually dips,
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Speaker 1: But when it's hotter, I think that can really play
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Speaker 1: in a hunter's favor if you have a good source
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Speaker 1: of water and you know where your deer are bedding
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Speaker 1: and how they're getting to the water, plus being there
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Speaker 1: where food is nearby. So if you have that combination
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Speaker 1: of those three things, the food, water, and bed I
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Speaker 1: mean you've got a recipe for success. And really this
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Speaker 1: time of year, I think is it is one of
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Speaker 1: the easier times a year to kill a good buck
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Speaker 1: in the state of Tennessee. Uh, that's when I've traditionally
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Speaker 1: had the best encounters and killed my best deer. So
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Speaker 1: I'm really excited what the next couple of weeks brings.
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Speaker 1: And I the hot weather doesn't bother me because I
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Speaker 1: know where, I know where they like to go get
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Speaker 1: through water. Going forward, then the six week or so,
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Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket activity is going to
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Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Tennessee,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's gonna probably stay in that six
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Speaker 1: to seven range. Uh. The temperature, like I said, I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure that it has much effect on deer movement
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Speaker 1: right now. It's actually but it is. It is kind
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Speaker 1: of lower temps than it has been. So if nothing else,
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Speaker 1: that excites me, and it gets wants me to get
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Speaker 1: in the wood more, you know, having to fight that
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Speaker 1: hundred degree temperatures and all that sweat coming down, and
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Speaker 1: that's not usually that much fun. We look forward to
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Speaker 1: hearing your updates on Doalla South hunting. Thanks for joining me, Adam,
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Speaker 1: Hey appreciate it. Spencer's truly pleasure, Sir, alright, and joining
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Speaker 1: us on the line. Next is Jake Gregg is from
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Speaker 1: Daybreak Ranch in South Dakota. Now, Jake in South Dakota.
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Speaker 1: What would you say the buck activity has been lately
18:31
Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten right now in
18:35
Speaker 1: central South Dakota. I'd probably say the the buck activities
18:40
Speaker 1: around us six out of ten. And I say that
18:43
Speaker 1: because they're still kind of transitioning from shedding their velvet
18:48
Speaker 1: into their fall ranges and and you still see some
18:51
Speaker 1: badsh with groups together and a lot of a lot
18:54
Speaker 1: more nocturnal movement. Yet all the crops are still standing
18:58
Speaker 1: for the most part. Uh So I would say it's
19:02
Speaker 1: still it's probably a six out of ten. Do you
19:04
Speaker 1: think those crops are gonna be coming out anytime soon?
19:07
Speaker 1: And how does your strategy change once the combines get going. Yeah,
19:12
Speaker 1: we've had some some actually wet weather lately and that's
19:16
Speaker 1: kind of delaying the harvest a little bit. Some of
19:19
Speaker 1: the soybeans have been harvested already, and I know there's
19:22
Speaker 1: corn fields that are ready to come out, and actually
19:25
Speaker 1: some that were cut for silage already, so that that
19:28
Speaker 1: changes strategy a little bit. That's holding a lot of
19:31
Speaker 1: the deer. The corn and sunflowers are holding most of
19:35
Speaker 1: the deer at least are right around here for us.
19:38
Speaker 1: And as those started to come out, those deer will
19:40
Speaker 1: kind of slide into the next best cover nearest to
19:43
Speaker 1: that typically, and so you might be looking to hunt.
19:47
Speaker 1: If you're hunting field edges before, you might might be
19:51
Speaker 1: hunting more of those cat tails, slews or or you
19:55
Speaker 1: know all the bandoned farmyards where the deer slid away.
19:58
Speaker 1: You know, a quarter mile from of that field where
20:00
Speaker 1: they were living to the next best cover. Are you
20:04
Speaker 1: finding any signmaking yet? Yeah, just the last three or
20:09
Speaker 1: four days, we've really noticed more more rubbing posts that
20:13
Speaker 1: we put out for the deer getting getting hit hard,
20:16
Speaker 1: and these shelter belts have have rub lines starting to
20:19
Speaker 1: pop up along them, and then and there's scrapes or
20:23
Speaker 1: for stumbling onto too, so they're definitely starting to to
20:27
Speaker 1: work those rubs and scrapes. Well. A few weeks ago, Jake,
20:32
Speaker 1: you rotor report for rut Fresh, and you talked about
20:35
Speaker 1: how when the crops are still standing like this, that
20:39
Speaker 1: the bucks tend to do this thing where they have
20:41
Speaker 1: a like a transition bedding that they get up out
20:45
Speaker 1: of their bed late in the evening, they'll bed down
20:47
Speaker 1: someplace else before dark, and there's an opportunity there for
20:50
Speaker 1: hunters to get a chance at mature. Do you talk
20:53
Speaker 1: about that a little bit? Sure? Yeah, Actually witnessed it
20:57
Speaker 1: happened last night. I was sitting on uh dug out,
21:01
Speaker 1: a water hole tucked inside of a sunflower field, and
21:06
Speaker 1: two bucks came in there, and one came and actually drank,
21:10
Speaker 1: the other one never did drink, but uh laid down
21:14
Speaker 1: right at the end illegal shooting. He actually bedded down
21:18
Speaker 1: right there in the grass next to the dugout, so
21:22
Speaker 1: we see that a lot um an. It makes difficult
21:26
Speaker 1: to kill deer, especially when they're doing something like that
21:30
Speaker 1: where they might might be killable for the last half
21:34
Speaker 1: hour of the day, but you've got to be really
21:36
Speaker 1: right in their bedroom to do it, and right now
21:40
Speaker 1: their bedroom is typically inside of these crop fields, so
21:43
Speaker 1: it makes it pretty difficult unless you got a really
21:46
Speaker 1: nice tucked away spot where that buck feels secure and
21:48
Speaker 1: he's gonna get up and and maybe feed and just
21:51
Speaker 1: stretch his feet. Seems like they'll you know, they're feeding
21:55
Speaker 1: all day inside of a corn or sunflower field, snacking
21:58
Speaker 1: and bedding down, and it's almost like they just have
22:02
Speaker 1: to get up and move. But they're not, you know,
22:04
Speaker 1: they're not confident enough to go out in the open
22:08
Speaker 1: where they might not be so secure until after dark.
22:12
Speaker 1: So we actually see a lot of our better dear
22:17
Speaker 1: kind of in these secluded, uh tucked away spots inside
22:21
Speaker 1: of a crop fields. But that's something that you won't
22:24
Speaker 1: see as much once those crops don't come out correct. Well,
22:30
Speaker 1: they can do it all fall, but you really see
22:34
Speaker 1: it now when when the crops are standing and they
22:38
Speaker 1: they don't really have a mission to be on per se.
22:42
Speaker 1: So here as the fall progresses, those bucks will will
22:47
Speaker 1: be more on the move and and and more killable
22:50
Speaker 1: on their feet longer. But in the summer we see
22:52
Speaker 1: that the most, when it's warmer, especially where they're they're
22:57
Speaker 1: like I've like I said, it's almost like their version
23:00
Speaker 1: of cabin fever. They just can't stand to be hidden
23:04
Speaker 1: in that crop field any longer, and they need to
23:06
Speaker 1: get out and move, but they don't want to move
23:08
Speaker 1: where they're headed for that evening quite yet. Going forward,
23:12
Speaker 1: then in the sixt week or so, what do you
23:14
Speaker 1: think that buck activity will be on a scale of
23:16
Speaker 1: one to ten in South Dakota. I think from here
23:19
Speaker 1: on out it should only get better unless we get
23:22
Speaker 1: some really hot weather or something that might might make
23:25
Speaker 1: them move less. I would say in the next week
23:28
Speaker 1: or so, i'd probably be uh seven or so out
23:31
Speaker 1: of ten. And and all those bucks are they're callable.
23:36
Speaker 1: But with this cold weather I thought that they would
23:38
Speaker 1: be even more visible. But they're still moving pretty late
23:41
Speaker 1: in the evening and and then you have to be
23:44
Speaker 1: pretty lucky to catch them right first thing in the morning,
23:48
Speaker 1: before they make it back to where they're going to
23:50
Speaker 1: spend the rest of the day. So I would say
23:52
Speaker 1: a seven out of ten for now. Well, good luck
23:54
Speaker 1: to rest the season, Jake. I know you're gonna kill
23:57
Speaker 1: a couple of good days this year. It's not even
23:58
Speaker 1: a matter of if it's just in So thanks for
24:00
Speaker 1: joining me. Hopefully you two Spencers appreciate it all and
24:05
Speaker 1: joining me on the line. Last is Kyler Moppert from Louisiana.
24:09
Speaker 1: Bowl Hunter in Louisiana. Now Kyler in Louisiana, what would
24:12
Speaker 1: you say the buck activity has been lately? I'm scaled
24:15
Speaker 1: one to ten, well a scale of one to ten
24:18
Speaker 1: for our open areas are going to be Area ten,
24:21
Speaker 1: Area three, Area seven. Um, we've got a pretty a
24:26
Speaker 1: pretty substantial buck activity for this early in the season
24:29
Speaker 1: because number one, those are the only areas that are open,
24:31
Speaker 1: so only about maybe a quarter of the state is
24:34
Speaker 1: open for hunting. But the reason why that is is
24:37
Speaker 1: because that population of deer is more of a coastal
24:40
Speaker 1: population that is um in a different ret cycle. They
24:45
Speaker 1: read a lot earlier in the year than some of
24:48
Speaker 1: our other deer we have in the state, it would
24:50
Speaker 1: be comparable to maybe a Florida ret cycle of a
24:52
Speaker 1: lot of their swamped here. So UM, on a scale
24:55
Speaker 1: of one to ten, I'd probably put it about a
24:57
Speaker 1: five or six right now with the heat, a lot
25:00
Speaker 1: of oppressiveness with the weather and just being out in
25:04
Speaker 1: the woods and uh not being easy for them to
25:07
Speaker 1: want to move, pick up and move during the day.
25:09
Speaker 1: But um, the other parts of the state, UM, I
25:13
Speaker 1: would probably put it about a five or six, mainly
25:17
Speaker 1: because there's no hunting pressure on them, but they're still
25:20
Speaker 1: not moving just because I mean it's still been a
25:21
Speaker 1: hundred degrees down here. But the season opens up on
25:24
Speaker 1: Monday the first for the rest of the season as well. UM,
25:28
Speaker 1: So this time of year, you know, people aren't exactly
25:32
Speaker 1: that gung ho about getting out in the woods because
25:35
Speaker 1: of you need about seven thermo cells and almost an
25:38
Speaker 1: a C unit strap to your back. But if you
25:41
Speaker 1: can get out in the woods and you can sit
25:43
Speaker 1: in an area where you know you've got some um,
25:46
Speaker 1: some rutted bucks moving through or you've got some bachelor
25:49
Speaker 1: groups moving through that and haven't broken up yet, and
25:52
Speaker 1: you've got a pretty good chance of uh seeing something.
25:55
Speaker 1: And how did those setups vary for those guys who
25:57
Speaker 1: are maybe hunting the route right now versus everyone else
26:00
Speaker 1: who has an open or coming up on Monday. UM.
26:04
Speaker 1: You know, so we we are a uh, we are
26:06
Speaker 1: a state that does have legalized feeding UM. And this
26:09
Speaker 1: is something that we actually talk a lot about on
26:11
Speaker 1: on our podcast that We've got UM. That's kind of
26:15
Speaker 1: a hot topic for a lot of people in the country.
26:17
Speaker 1: Some people like it, some people don't. But the thing
26:19
Speaker 1: that's interesting about Louisiana is that we hunt areas that
26:23
Speaker 1: is so thick you have zero percent chance of ever
26:27
Speaker 1: doing any type of spot and stock, any sort of
26:30
Speaker 1: setting up on observation stands. And we're hunting thickets where
26:33
Speaker 1: you might only have one small hole to put an
26:36
Speaker 1: arrow in, and so UM, you've got to be able
26:39
Speaker 1: to bring those deer in close without having to track
26:41
Speaker 1: them all the time. But the setup is gonna be
26:44
Speaker 1: UM pretty much the same. If you can attract the dose,
26:47
Speaker 1: then you probably and it's the rut um you can
26:50
Speaker 1: probably bring in some bucks in behind them. So what
26:52
Speaker 1: I and what a lot of people do is, UM,
26:55
Speaker 1: we're hunting a hundred yards from the feeder UM or
26:59
Speaker 1: hunting a hund yards from where weever, wherever the food
27:01
Speaker 1: sources that we're putting out, and we're trying to let
27:05
Speaker 1: the doose pass and then focus in on the bucks
27:07
Speaker 1: that may be behind them right and kind of get
27:10
Speaker 1: out of that circle if you will, that that circle
27:14
Speaker 1: of vulnerability around your feet are where a buck might
27:17
Speaker 1: not come into. Get out behind that and hope that
27:20
Speaker 1: you're on the right trail for them coming in. Do
27:23
Speaker 1: those different deer populations in Louisiana react to weather differently?
27:28
Speaker 1: Say you were to get a huge rainstorm for a
27:30
Speaker 1: few days, or if a cold front comes in, do
27:33
Speaker 1: you notice those two different populations acting differently when that happens. Absolutely? Um,
27:40
Speaker 1: you know, I would say rain is our number one
27:43
Speaker 1: motivator for getting getting deer up and moving. Um. We're
27:47
Speaker 1: pretty uh, we're pretty level. When it comes to weather.
27:50
Speaker 1: It's gonna either be hot or it's gonna be hotter.
27:53
Speaker 1: We don't have a whole bunch of cold fronts coming through.
27:56
Speaker 1: We don't have a whole bunch of, um, you know,
27:58
Speaker 1: huge temperature swings until maybe into December, late January, Um,
28:03
Speaker 1: but early in the season. If you're gonna hunt from
28:07
Speaker 1: now until Thanksgiving, you pretty much know you're gonna be
28:10
Speaker 1: in a short sleeve shirt and uh in ninety degrees
28:14
Speaker 1: that you're gonna be hunting in once the sun comes up.
28:16
Speaker 1: So um, like I said, it's pretty pretty uh stable
28:21
Speaker 1: as far as weather for us. Unfortunately it's stable on
28:24
Speaker 1: the hot end. Um. But because of that, the deer
28:29
Speaker 1: you do see a lot of um, I wouldn't say
28:32
Speaker 1: a lot of it, you do. You do see primarily
28:34
Speaker 1: very crepuscular deer where they are only moving in the morning,
28:38
Speaker 1: they're only moving in the evening, and there's not a
28:40
Speaker 1: whole lot of hour or two after sunrise, hour and
28:43
Speaker 1: two before sunset. It is like right there with the sunset,
28:48
Speaker 1: right there with the sunrise. So a lot of very
28:50
Speaker 1: short hunts. Sometimes you know, it's not really worth it
28:53
Speaker 1: to get out there at one in the one in
28:54
Speaker 1: the afternoon. At the time of year, a lot of
28:57
Speaker 1: times you can climb up at four thirty five o'clock
28:59
Speaker 1: hunt for an hour and a half until it gets
29:01
Speaker 1: dark and um and if you don't see anything in
29:03
Speaker 1: that time periods come back the next morning, you know.
29:06
Speaker 1: Going forward then in this next week or so, what
29:08
Speaker 1: do you think that bucket TVT is going to be
29:10
Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten in Louisiana, Skeller
29:13
Speaker 1: one of town. I think it's going to say the
29:14
Speaker 1: same thing. It's gonna say a four or five. Um.
29:18
Speaker 1: Just this type of year, this time of year, with
29:20
Speaker 1: um type of weather patterns and the heat that we have,
29:24
Speaker 1: it's hard to expect them to get up and move
29:27
Speaker 1: until another month or two down the road. It's great intel, Kyler,
29:31
Speaker 1: good luck on your approaching opener, and thanks for joining me.
29:35
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Thank you, And that concludes this week's episode
29:39
Speaker 1: of Wired to Hunt's Radio. Thank you to Dave, Adam, Jake,
29:43
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30:04
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30:06
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