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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Thursday, September 23rd. I'm
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- 0:23Speaker 1: welcoming back in Ross Fulton, one of the scheme insiders
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- 0:47Speaker 1: we are going to be looking at the Ohio State
- 0:49Speaker 1: defense on this show. And we're going to be taking
- 0:52Speaker 1: a look at some of the guys that Ryan Day
- 0:54Speaker 1: singled out during his press conference on Tuesday in terms
- 0:56Speaker 1: of people who he was very impressed with. But before
- 0:59Speaker 1: we get into that, Ross, we're just going to start
- 1:01Speaker 1: with some stuff they were able to do to limit
- 1:05Speaker 1: Kent State in the run game. Because I feel like
- 1:08Speaker 1: after the game, there was a lot of, boy, they
- 1:11Speaker 1: really didn't do as much against Kent State as you
- 1:13Speaker 1: thought they would. And you went back and watched it.
- 1:14Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, Kent State didn't really generate anything
- 1:17Speaker 1: on the ground or in the air.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Yeah, and I actually think that they... Ohio State defense
- 1:22Speaker 2: under Matt Patricia actually made quite a few adjustments in
- 1:26Speaker 2: response to the Texas game in both the run game
- 1:30Speaker 2: and the pass game. I would put them under the
- 1:32Speaker 2: general framework of being more aggressive and bringing more rushers.
- 1:39Speaker 2: This first one, as you said, this is a run blitz,
- 1:42Speaker 2: but we saw more of this on Saturday as opposed
- 1:45Speaker 2: to sitting back. These double three tech you sometimes see
- 1:50Speaker 2: from Patricia and it's basically like a, sometimes like people
- 1:54Speaker 2: call it a build a bear because you're, you're bringing
- 1:56Speaker 2: one inside linebacker. He's attacking the a gap opposite the
- 2:00Speaker 2: way the center talks.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Steps.
- 2:03Speaker 2: And so, you know, if you pause it, right, you'll
- 2:05Speaker 2: have a five man front with the linebacker then taking
- 2:08Speaker 2: one of the a gap. And that allows Christian Allegro.
- 2:11Speaker 2: And he, you know, one of those guys that day
- 2:13Speaker 2: talked about is sort of being one of the leaders
- 2:15Speaker 2: of the defense that they're building around. able to then
- 2:17Speaker 2: flow to the football and basically close off all the lanes. And, um,
- 2:20Speaker 2: so I, you know, that you saw, I think quite
- 2:23Speaker 2: a bit of these like different types of five man, uh,
- 2:27Speaker 2: cover one pressures, uh, both in the, as run and
- 2:30Speaker 2: pass responses.
- 2:32Speaker 1: All right. So next we're going to look at one
- 2:34Speaker 1: of the guys that Ryan day talked about as someone
- 2:37Speaker 1: who they really are going to kind of build the
- 2:39Speaker 1: defense around you almost looking as out at looking at
- 2:42Speaker 1: as sort of a foundational piece, uh, And that is
- 2:45Speaker 1: linebacker Christian Allegro, the transfer from Wisconsin.
- 2:49Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we saw how they used him there
- 2:51Speaker 2: as an inside linebacker, flowing and off the ball. On
- 2:56Speaker 2: the ball, he was pretty disruptive again, and they obviously
- 2:59Speaker 2: like him in this Arvel Reese role in the penny
- 3:03Speaker 2: or odd front, for lack of a better term. But again, schematically,
- 3:07Speaker 2: this is another five-man cover one pressure. They played a
- 3:12Speaker 2: bunch of cover one against Ball State as well before
- 3:15Speaker 2: obviously doing very little of that against Texas. And so,
- 3:18Speaker 2: you know, we'll see, I mean, Illinois has a pretty
- 3:21Speaker 2: successful passing offense. And so it'll be interesting to see
- 3:23Speaker 2: how they approach that. But I just thought, you know,
- 3:26Speaker 2: just there's like more bodies near the line of scrimmage,
- 3:30Speaker 2: more pressuring, you know, pressuring the offense. And so, you know,
- 3:36Speaker 2: here they bring a letter off the edge. He's just
- 3:38Speaker 2: very aggressive coming downhill and a pretty impactful. And so,
- 3:42Speaker 2: you know, I see why, Ryan Day pointed that out
- 3:46Speaker 2: and we'll talk about Riley Pettijohn here in a little bit.
- 3:49Speaker 2: I think, and Allegro sort of touched on this, you know,
- 3:52Speaker 2: one of the things I, in my opinion, like Allegro
- 3:55Speaker 2: and Pettijohn have been the two best linebackers by a
- 3:58Speaker 2: pretty clear margin thus far, but they both have sort
- 4:01Speaker 2: of been playing the same kind of position, you know,
- 4:04Speaker 2: Arville Reese position, if you will, playing like Sam and Will.
- 4:07Speaker 2: And so see how the two of them work together.
- 4:10Speaker 2: you know, how they, how they use the two of
- 4:11Speaker 2: them together on, on Saturday, we saw, I think Reese
- 4:16Speaker 2: or Reese, we saw Pettijohn and Mike and Allegro sort
- 4:19Speaker 2: of staying on the edge, but then Allegro, I think,
- 4:21Speaker 2: you know, on Tuesday talked about that he was playing
- 4:24Speaker 2: some Mike with Pettijohn on the edge. And so I
- 4:27Speaker 2: think they're probably going to, you know, this still is
- 4:29Speaker 2: a little bit of a work in progress and figuring
- 4:31Speaker 2: out how those pieces, those two guys fit together best and,
- 4:34Speaker 2: you know, which position maximizes their strengths.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Next guy that I know Ryan Day is super, super,
- 4:41Speaker 1: super high on is Jay Timmons. And that's a name
- 4:43Speaker 1: that people have heard us talk about for at least
- 4:47Speaker 1: a month or two pretty consistently. But he continues to
- 4:50Speaker 1: be really, really impressive. And not just impressive in one
- 4:54Speaker 1: area of the game. The next two plays, he plays
- 4:57Speaker 1: a significant role in both of those. This first one,
- 5:00Speaker 1: he just comes flying out of the secondary to make
- 5:03Speaker 1: a really good open field tackle.
- 5:05Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Timmons is just, he's really... Like Allegro,
- 5:09Speaker 2: like he flies downhill. And so, you know, the one thing,
- 5:13Speaker 2: the more they can do with Timmons and then another
- 5:16Speaker 2: one of the guys that Ryan Day mentioned, Earl Little,
- 5:19Speaker 2: the more versatility gives them. For instance, like here, they have,
- 5:22Speaker 2: you know, the Little over the slot receiver to the
- 5:26Speaker 2: boundary and Timmons being the guy coming downhill and cover
- 5:31Speaker 2: three and sort of cover one, excuse me, buzz look.
- 5:36Speaker 2: as opposed to like traditionally, like, you know, you might
- 5:38Speaker 2: have your nickel being the guy over the slot receiver
- 5:41Speaker 2: and little in that position. And so they can sort
- 5:44Speaker 2: of rotate the defense more like they could do last year. And,
- 5:49Speaker 2: but this is just, again, obviously a great example of how,
- 5:52Speaker 2: you know, decisive Timmons is then coming downhill once you
- 5:56Speaker 2: within the scheme.
- 5:58Speaker 1: This next one, you get a little bit of a
- 5:59Speaker 1: two for two guys that we have been talking about
- 6:01Speaker 1: already on this show. One is Jay Timmons who comes
- 6:04Speaker 1: off the corner early, and just gets enough of the
- 6:07Speaker 1: quarterback's arm to kind of impact the pass. And the
- 6:10Speaker 1: other guy is Riley Pettyjohn, who is just right there.
- 6:13Speaker 1: That's something Ryan Day has talked about. He is just
- 6:15Speaker 1: kind of in the right spot and can slide off
- 6:18Speaker 1: of blocks and just sort of be a difference maker.
- 6:21Speaker 1: This is the play where Pettyjohn ended up with an interception.
- 6:24Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, I would sort of push back against
- 6:26Speaker 2: the concept that they didn't really do anything different or
- 6:30Speaker 2: new against Ball State. Again, I think Patricia was more
- 6:34Speaker 2: aggressive there. and bringing five man pressures. Um, so, you know,
- 6:38Speaker 2: here you have a fire zone, so it's a three deep,
- 6:41Speaker 2: three under zone blitz, uh, you know, um, Balmanac, always
- 6:45Speaker 2: a great fallen X, put a few, a couple of
- 6:47Speaker 2: these up from the Patricia use on Saturday, but you're
- 6:50Speaker 2: basically looping the, the defensive end, uh, to Tim is
- 6:55Speaker 2: a side inside the defensive tackle. And then, uh, so
- 6:58Speaker 2: you got like a tech stunt going on and then
- 7:00Speaker 2: you're bringing Tim is off the edge. Obviously like he's again,
- 7:04Speaker 2: this is sort of taking advantage of his aggressiveness. So,
- 7:08Speaker 2: you know, obviously I said post Texas, like need to,
- 7:11Speaker 2: you know, I think they're going to need to use
- 7:12Speaker 2: more like four man sim pressures and more five man
- 7:16Speaker 2: fire zones to generate pressure. But I do think you're
- 7:19Speaker 2: seeing with the guys that day mentioned, like it's both
- 7:23Speaker 2: a matter of like the scheme, but then also sort
- 7:25Speaker 2: of like, okay, who are our best pieces? And then like,
- 7:28Speaker 2: what do they do best and how can we maximize
- 7:30Speaker 2: them within the defense? And so I think they're, you know,
- 7:33Speaker 2: using Timmons and then Earl Little, as we showed during Texas,
- 7:37Speaker 2: pretty aggressively to like fit from depth and be impactful.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Something else that would have seemed kind of crazy a
- 7:44Speaker 1: few years ago is the idea that you'd see three
- 7:46Speaker 1: Ohio State defensive tackles on the field at the same time.
- 7:49Speaker 1: It felt like you would generally just sort of see, okay,
- 7:51Speaker 1: they've got their three tech, they've got their nose, you've
- 7:53Speaker 1: got your two defensive ends. That has changed a lot.
- 7:56Speaker 1: We've talked about a bunch of different variations of that
- 7:58Speaker 1: over the last couple of years since Matt Patricia has
- 8:00Speaker 1: shown up, but one of the guys who's been a
- 8:03Speaker 1: difference maker among the defensive tackles this year and somebody who,
- 8:06Speaker 1: who Ryan Day also singled out earlier in the week
- 8:08Speaker 1: is Jason Moore. And this is one where Jason Moore
- 8:11Speaker 1: kind of has to eat a double team and sort
- 8:12Speaker 1: of holds up and is part of, you know, there,
- 8:15Speaker 1: there are several other guys who probably got credit on
- 8:18Speaker 1: the stat sheet, but this was a pretty nice play
- 8:20Speaker 1: by Jason Moore too. Yeah.
- 8:22Speaker 2: I kind of speculated, you know, like Patricia likes to
- 8:24Speaker 2: have like bulk on defense, right? Like he likes Allegro
- 8:28Speaker 2: cause he's a big linebacker. Like he liked, you know,
- 8:30Speaker 2: I thought when he brought in the transfer D tackles,
- 8:33Speaker 2: like that he would want to do some of this
- 8:34Speaker 2: with the penny front with three defensive tackles inside. And
- 8:39Speaker 2: so you've seen some of that, but I like Jason
- 8:41Speaker 2: Moore has to be the most pleasant surprise for high
- 8:43Speaker 2: state this year. Like he, you know, Patricia likes this,
- 8:47Speaker 2: you know, even though this is an actually they're like
- 8:49Speaker 2: bumped into an even look from the penny. Like, you know,
- 8:52Speaker 2: he likes having that head up nose guard and obviously
- 8:55Speaker 2: like more has the most heft of any of those guys,
- 8:58Speaker 2: but he's been playing great. And this allows them to
- 9:00Speaker 2: put John Walker, who's also another transfer who's playing well,
- 9:03Speaker 2: like as more of like the three tech or like
- 9:05Speaker 2: a four eye where I think he's a little bit
- 9:08Speaker 2: more impactful. And so in, you know, again, then using
- 9:13Speaker 2: this sort of three high look, we saw it a
- 9:14Speaker 2: lot against Texas, like basically Earl little serves from that
- 9:18Speaker 2: Aztec position, like Kayla downs is kind of the will
- 9:20Speaker 2: linebacker filling. But this, you know, the last thing I'd
- 9:23Speaker 2: point out, this sort of gets to what I said
- 9:25Speaker 2: about the, like, Allegro and Petitjean like this is a
- 9:28Speaker 2: nice off ball play by Petitjean in terms of uh
- 9:32Speaker 2: filling out inside out they they showed the wonder in
- 9:34Speaker 2: the broadcast where he overran his gap um but you
- 9:38Speaker 2: know I think that this is you know it wasn't
- 9:40Speaker 2: all just like it's not just like he's you know
- 9:43Speaker 2: sort of flying around out there and not playing his
- 9:45Speaker 2: responsibilities I think that would be too much of an
- 9:47Speaker 2: overstatement but again it will be interesting to see you
- 9:50Speaker 2: know in this sort of look like Do they go
- 9:53Speaker 2: if the two of them are together more like do
- 9:55Speaker 2: they do they flip them and play Allegro as this
- 9:58Speaker 2: Mike and a petit john on the edge or you
- 10:00Speaker 2: know even back and forth between that those two.
- 10:03Speaker 1: All right there you go a little bit of a
- 10:05Speaker 1: breakdown of the ohio state defense and the why behind
- 10:08Speaker 1: some of what ryan day said earlier in the week
- 10:10Speaker 1: about guys who might be sort of foundational players for
- 10:14Speaker 1: this year's Ohio State defense. Not necessarily the names we
- 10:17Speaker 1: would have been thinking a couple weeks ago, but it
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