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- 0:00What is going on beautiful people.
- 0:02Lee Hammock, your favorite? You can't have a favorite
- 0:05diagnosed self aware narcissist here with another episode of the
- 0:09Narcissist Code slash mental illness podcast out today.
- 0:12We're talking about narcissistic mothers, the infamous
- 0:16narcissistic mother. Now I know when most of y'all
- 0:19hear the term motherhood, you think of unconditional love,
- 0:25sacrifice. It's somebody being there for
- 0:28you, a safe space and whatnot. But narcissistic mothers tend to
- 0:32be your first predator, your first bully, right?
- 0:36Because they don't sacrifice. They don't give you
- 0:38unconditional love. Everything from a narcissistic
- 0:41mom is transactional. It it absolutely is.
- 0:45It's a tool like today I'm going to give you the perspective of a
- 0:48narcissistic parent and how narcissist view you, especially
- 0:52a narcissistic mother, how they view you, why that narcissistic
- 0:55mother treats her sons and daughters differently, and why
- 0:58you feel like you're dying every time you try to set a boundary.
- 1:02Y'all, first of all, shout out to the young lady who
- 1:05recommended this topic to me on Instagram live.
- 1:07I went Instagram live yesterday and she's like, can you do a
- 1:09video on narcissistic mothers? So I expect her to comment on
- 1:13this and say, hey, it's me because if you don't, no more
- 1:16recommendations. None.
- 1:18No, I'm just joking, but I appreciate her just saying hey,
- 1:20dual content on narcissistic mothers.
- 1:22So in today's video, y'all we're going to talk about narcissistic
- 1:24mothers, how they treat their daughters, how they treat their
- 1:27sons and how they treat their kids overall, y'all, and let's
- 1:29get this hot right into it man. Let's just y'all know I have to
- 1:35keep it hot and ready like a like a Little Caesar's pizza,
- 1:37right? The truth is, narcissistic
- 1:40mothers very rarely, if ever see their children as actual people.
- 1:44They've, they very rarely A pathological narcissistic mom
- 1:48doesn't see their children as an actual person.
- 1:51They see them as a functional tool, as a functional object, as
- 1:55something to help them gain and gather more narcissistic supply.
- 2:00And I know that sucks to hear, right?
- 2:03I'm not saying that they have the inability to love you
- 2:06because I love my children, right?
- 2:07Even before I got diagnosed as a narcissist, I still love my
- 2:10kids. I really, really did.
- 2:12But narcissistic mothers, the especially the unaware ones, the
- 2:15ones that are not trying to take accountability, the ones that
- 2:17are doing this, doing that, they typically don't see you as a
- 2:23functional human being. They don't see you as a person
- 2:25with your own autonomy. They see you as what serves
- 2:27them. You know what I mean?
- 2:29So as a narcissist, like if I, if I were to put myself in the
- 2:31shoes of your narcissistic mother, what I see, everything
- 2:36that you do is a reflection of me.
- 2:41Simply put, everything you do is a reflection of your
- 2:44narcissistic mother. That's why they see the world
- 2:46that they, the way they see it, right?
- 2:48They see like that you see their car, their house, everything is
- 2:52a reflection of them. You are, they see you as an
- 2:55extension of them. If you are doing well, if you're
- 2:58the star athlete, the straight A student, the funny kid that the
- 3:02kid that everybody loves, the pretty child, you are the
- 3:06trophy. You are the trophy, right?
- 3:10They will walk you around and show you off like a prize.
- 3:15Not because they're proud of you, but because they are proud
- 3:18of their own parenting. They're proud.
- 3:20They are proud of you because they're proud of themselves.
- 3:22Look at a good job that I did. You're only this way because I
- 3:26raised you. Look at all the sacrifices I
- 3:28made. You are mine and you look.
- 3:30Y'all see? Yeah.
- 3:31Yeah. She won a trophy.
- 3:33They because of me. Because of my parenting.
- 3:35Yeah. The only reason Because they won
- 3:36because of me. How many times if y'all have a
- 3:40narcissistic mother? How many times has that happened
- 3:41to you? Drop a thumbs up in the comment
- 3:43section. But like, there's a, there's a
- 3:45flip side of that, right? There's a flip side of had a
- 3:47narcissistic mother once. The second that you start to
- 3:51disappoint them or make them look bad, the second you get
- 3:54sick or have a mental health episode or a struggle or
- 3:57something like that. God forbid you got a personality
- 4:00trait that they don't approve of, you go from trophy to a
- 4:05problem. Oh you go from trophy to
- 4:08problematic. They don't.
- 4:11They remember I said they see you as an extension of their
- 4:13arm. Now you are necrotic arm.
- 4:15Now you're necrosis. Now you're necrotic.
- 4:18They got to cut you off to save the rest of themselves right?
- 4:22Like so to a narc mother, when you become problematic, when the
- 4:26world or they start seeing your flaws, you become an
- 4:29inconvenience to them. Like I said, they sometimes
- 4:31they'll cut you off like if you are crying, you're being
- 4:36dramatic. You know, if you're hurt, you're
- 4:38trying to steal the spotlight. You are never allowed to just be
- 4:43you just to have something happen to you.
- 4:45You're not allowed to do that. You had to earn your keep when
- 4:49you're dealing with a narcissistic parent.
- 4:50That's the way it goes right there.
- 4:51Y'all take seriously if you were the trophy or the problem, drop
- 4:55it in the comment section. Y'all drop a trophy or a problem
- 4:57in the comment section. If you feel if you are
- 4:59resonating with the narcissistic mother stuff right here, right?
- 5:04Because as you keep moving on, like like I said earlier, they
- 5:09treat their daughters and their sons differently.
- 5:10First, we're going to tackle the daughters, then we're going to
- 5:12tackle the sons. All right, got it.
- 5:14We want to talk specific about daughters right now.
- 5:17Sons are coming later because the narcissist, I'm going with
- 5:19the daughters first because this, this relationship dynamic
- 5:22tends to be very, very brutal, right?
- 5:27And this is going to suck because a narcissistic mother
- 5:29often sees her own daughter through the lens of envy and
- 5:32jealousy. Very rarely do they see him
- 5:35through with heart, with heart eyes, right?
- 5:37They see them with the angry eyes.
- 5:39You know, the little movies where they have the little
- 5:40flaming eyes, little fire eyes. That's how they see your
- 5:43daughters, right? When you when you are little,
- 5:46you might be their little mini me.
- 5:49They might dress you just like them.
- 5:51They might dress you like a doll that sometimes they live
- 5:54vicariously through their mini me's, right?
- 5:56They treat you how they wanted to grow up.
- 5:59They do. They force you into things that
- 6:00they you might not like, but they wanted to do, they might
- 6:03not have never got a chance to do.
- 6:05And that's what ends up happening, right?
- 6:07But as soon as you start growing up and hit puberty, as soon as
- 6:10you start getting your own attention, your own personality,
- 6:13your own beauty, that you might not look like them, they might
- 6:16see you as looking better than them, which is weird in your own
- 6:19life. The switch flips.
- 6:21They start looking at you different.
- 6:22You become a threat. Imagine looking at your baby as
- 6:27a threat because that's what they do.
- 6:29Suddenly you go from being to meeting me, the best friend, to
- 6:32A to a competitor. Your narcissistic mother starts
- 6:35competing with you as their own daughter.
- 6:39This is crazy. They will suddenly sabotage
- 6:43yourself esteem. They will attack you from the
- 6:44inside out. They'll make little sly comments
- 6:48about your weight, your clothes, your friends, your hair, your
- 6:52eyes, your teeth, your freckles, whatever it can be to mess with
- 6:56you, right? They want to make you feel
- 6:58small. They want to keep you small so
- 7:01they can feel big, right? They're compare and contrast you
- 7:05all the time. But you, let's say you're 1314
- 7:07years old. They'll compare you to them, to
- 7:09them when they were 1314, when I was 13 and 14.
- 7:11I look better than you, which is weird to say.
- 7:14I was already an adult, I already had a job, I already did
- 7:17this, I already did that. I've seen narc.
- 7:19This is going to sound horrible right here.
- 7:22I've seen narcissistic mothers flirt with their daughters,
- 7:25boyfriends or their husbands just to prove they still got it.
- 7:28And sometimes you see the you see the off example that
- 7:31sometimes the narcissistic mom ends up sleeping with their
- 7:34daughter's husband or boyfriend and ruining their own families.
- 7:37Those stories are real, look them up.
- 7:39This is crazy. Like she does like narcissistic
- 7:42mother doesn't want you to be more successful than her, but
- 7:45she wants you to be successful enough to make her look good.
- 7:51It's like, I'm sure I promise you that it's kind of like a
- 7:53damn near. It's kind of like a trap, right?
- 7:55Don't be like like like what's that embarrassing about
- 7:57Goldilocks? It's kind of like Goldilocks.
- 7:59You, you don't be too successful, but don't be too
- 8:03failure Prony don't be too average.
- 8:05Just stay just right, not too hot, not too cold, just right,
- 8:09just in the middle so they feel like they can control you.
- 8:12She wants to be the sun and she wants you to be the moon that
- 8:14only shines when she's allowed. He wants you to reflect her
- 8:17light, not have your own self-sustaining light source.
- 8:21That is crazy. It's hard growing up with a
- 8:23narcissistic mother when you are her daughter.
- 8:25I I I get, I trust, trust me, I understand that and that's why
- 8:29I'm just trying to like raise awareness for that right there.
- 8:31Now we switched the topic hop. Now we put topic hop to the
- 8:34narcissistic mother and her sons, my boys or my male
- 8:44identifying folks. Your trap is going to be a
- 8:47little different, right? You might get the emotional
- 8:51pancestral. You might get the most emotional
- 8:54Pinterest. It's like that.
- 8:56You might get the emotional INCEST.
- 9:00A narcissistic mother often treats her son like a surrogate
- 9:03partner. If she's unhappy with her
- 9:06husband or a boyfriend, or if she's single, she will pour all
- 9:09of her emotional needs into her baby boy, her beautiful,
- 9:12bouncing Golden Boy. You are the one who has to
- 9:16listen to her problems. You become her emotional dumping
- 9:19ground. Your adult mom.
- 9:20You become her emotional dumping ground.
- 9:22You are the one who has to defend her, her horrible
- 9:24behaviors to your girlfriend, to your other family members, to
- 9:28your other siblings, to your wife, to your own children.
- 9:31You have to defend her. You are the man of the house.
- 9:34Before you even had enough, had enough time to grow up.
- 9:37You might be an 8 year old, 9 year old, 10 year old man of the
- 9:40house. That's crazy.
- 9:43Your narcissistic mother may very well put you, and this is
- 9:45not going to be the same for everybody, right?
- 9:46Different, different sons who had narcissistic mothers are
- 9:49going to get different results. But this is just me speaking,
- 9:51just like in generalities and the most likely scenario, right?
- 9:55Your narcissistic mother, my boys, they're going to put you
- 9:58on a pedestal. They're going to tell you you're
- 10:01the only man who will ever truly love her.
- 10:04It feels good at first, right? You can feel proud when you're a
- 10:07little boy growing up. I protected my Mama.
- 10:09You can feel like a superhero, right?
- 10:11But it's not a super. It's not, it's not a superpower.
- 10:14They're putting a leash on you. They're putting a leash on you
- 10:16to make you feel like you out. They're always going to need
- 10:18you. They make you feel super, super
- 10:21needy. Your mother's always the
- 10:23narcissistic mothers will always make you feel like you have to
- 10:25commit to being there for them for the rest of their lives in
- 10:27any way, shape or form that they require, right?
- 10:30The second. And This is why they attack your
- 10:32partners. The second you grow up and you
- 10:35bring another woman home, man, that's when the monster.
- 10:37Y'all seen that Jennifer Lopez movie Monster in Law?
- 10:40That's when the Monster in Law comes out.
- 10:42She doesn't see your girlfriend as a partner for you.
- 10:45She sees her as the thief who is stealing her property, who's
- 10:48trying to take her man away, which is crazy.
- 10:51She will find every flaw that your girlfriend or you'll be
- 10:55like you. You can be, it could be a
- 10:56boyfriend, you can have a boyfriend, right?
- 10:58Your girlfriend, boyfriend, partner, whoever.
- 11:00They're going to find every flaw.
- 11:01They're going to nitpick, they're going to devalue,
- 11:03they're going to do a lot of different things subtly and
- 11:06passive aggressively and and play the victim when it's called
- 11:10out. They're going to start rumors
- 11:11about your partners. They're going to play the victim
- 11:13every time you choose your your spouse over them.
- 11:17Like they want you enmeshed into their life, Like they don't want
- 11:21you to go anywhere. Like your narcissistic mother
- 11:24wants you to be her hero until the day that she passes away and
- 11:28she would burn your entire life down to make sure you never
- 11:30leave her aside, which is tough. I thought there's so many.
- 11:33I'm doing some I-1 on one's over Zoom.
- 11:35I thought there's so many partners who who their husbands
- 11:38are not narcissists. They just have a narcissistic
- 11:41mother who does exactly what I'm talking about right here.
- 11:45There's one woman I talked to years ago.
- 11:47She said her her her husband would her mom would the
- 11:50narcissistic mom would take baths and the husband would be
- 11:53in the bathroom sitting on the toilet.
- 11:54I like that's gross as hell, but that's how she was raised.
- 11:59She oh, this is not weird. I've been doing this since I was
- 12:02a kid. I was sitting in the bathroom
- 12:03mom when my mom takes a bath. What what that's why it's crazy
- 12:10like the the reason this is so hard to heal from is because
- 12:14their voice is always in your head.
- 12:16You feel guilty. Y'all hear the term FOG, the
- 12:19acronym FOG for your obligation and guilt.
- 12:21This is what part I write. Read that book for There's a
- 12:23there's a book called out of the fog by Dana Monistar.
- 12:26Read their book. It's a powerful book.
- 12:27But when you look in the mirror and think I'm not enough, or I'm
- 12:32not, I'm not good enough, or I'm selfish or wanting a day off,
- 12:35that's not you talking. That's your mom's programming.
- 12:38Your narcissistic mother. That's her programming.
- 12:40She built that internal critic within your mind, with inside of
- 12:44your head that stays there long after you move out, long after
- 12:47you leave, long after she passes away.
- 12:50You feel guilty for setting boundaries with your mom because
- 12:53she trained you, Your narcissistic mother trained you
- 12:56to believe that love equals submission, that love equals
- 12:59access you don't have. If you don't give me what I
- 13:02want, you don't love me, right? If you don't give her, if you
- 13:06don't submit to your mom or give her untethered, unlimited
- 13:09access, you aren't loving her right.
- 13:11You're a horrible son. You're a bad boy or bad mom or
- 13:15bad daughter because that's your mom, right?
- 13:18This is crazy, man. And I have really hated anybody
- 13:20who has a narcissistic parent because it's tough as hell to
- 13:23deal with. It really, really is, you know
- 13:25what I mean? But as a narcissist, I'm like
- 13:27that guilt again, that guilt you might feel is a lie.
- 13:30It's program, it's false guilt. I call it false guilt.
- 13:33It's a tool to keep that narcissistic mother or parent in
- 13:37your life for a long time. You're not bad for wanting a
- 13:40life that is free of their control.
- 13:43You're just waking up and it's tough to wake up when you wake
- 13:45up and understand what you went through and why you might be in
- 13:47your own toxic relationship with a narcissistic partner, that we
- 13:51can be crazy too. I might do another video on how
- 13:53narcissistic mothers can team up with your narcissistic partner
- 13:56and perpetuate the cycle of abuse in your relationship
- 13:59because that does happen, right? But anyway, if you're in New
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- 14:07your narcissistic mother and parenting and Co parenting,
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- 14:32Peace.