Latest / Chuck Douglas / Cadidate For Ohio District 7 Bill Mercier
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Greetings, salutations, welcome, my friends, to another edition of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Power Hour on 610 WTVN. I'm Chuck Douglas. You know
- 0:06Speaker 1: who you are, and we take it from there. We
- 0:07Speaker 1: get one hour together, which means I talk really fast,
- 0:10Speaker 1: and you must listen even faster. The number's kind of
- 0:13Speaker 1: meaningless tonight, 821-9886-821-WTVN, because I've got a guest, and he
- 0:17Speaker 1: will be the final guest as we work our way
- 0:19Speaker 1: toward Election Day on Tuesday, November 3rd. I've been, the
- 0:24Speaker 1: last four weeks or so, been trying to bring you
- 0:26Speaker 1: as many candidates as possible, and this is the end
- 0:29Speaker 1: of the road for me, because He's going to have
- 0:31Speaker 1: a Bucks line on Thursday night, programming for the defense
- 0:34Speaker 1: on Friday. And then I've got Pathways Credit Union in
- 0:37Speaker 1: for Money Monday for the first Monday of the month.
- 0:42Speaker 1: So this is the culmination of the last four weeks.
- 0:46Speaker 1: I'm going numerically. Last night, House District 6 was in. Tonight,
- 0:49Speaker 1: it's House District 7. His name is Bill Mercer or
- 0:53Speaker 1: Mercier or William or I don't know. What do you prefer?
- 0:56Speaker 1: What do you like people to call you when they're
- 0:59Speaker 1: talking about you?
- 1:00Speaker 2: We'll go by Bill Mercer, Chuck. All right.
- 1:03Speaker 1: Bill Mercer. He's he's running for the House District seven.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Do you have a political history, Bill? I mean, I
- 1:09Speaker 1: was I was kind of surprised when we were talking about,
- 1:13Speaker 1: you know, what you do for a living and so forth,
- 1:15Speaker 1: because you've got a big brain on you. But but
- 1:19Speaker 1: have you have you sought office anywhere at any time
- 1:21Speaker 1: before this?
- 1:23Speaker 2: No, I haven't. And actually, real quick, I just want
- 1:26Speaker 2: to thank you for having me on the program today.
- 1:27Speaker 2: It's a real pleasure to be a part of your show.
- 1:29Speaker 2: And honestly, it's programs like these that are so important
- 1:31Speaker 2: to help inform people about candidates like me who may
- 1:35Speaker 2: not have a political background and raising awareness around the issue.
- 1:38Speaker 2: So thank you for what you do there. But no,
- 1:42Speaker 2: on my side of it, I have not sought political
- 1:45Speaker 2: office before. I have worked in the legislature back when
- 1:50Speaker 2: I was in college. But this is something that, you know,
- 1:55Speaker 2: I had to sit and think about and think about
- 1:59Speaker 2: with my wife quite a bit before we embarked on
- 2:02Speaker 2: this journey, because these state legislative seats are so critically
- 2:06Speaker 2: important to the future of our community. So, you know,
- 2:10Speaker 2: when we decided to go forward here, you know, this
- 2:14Speaker 2: was a big leap for us, as I said, because
- 2:16Speaker 2: it is my first running as a candidate for public office.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Working inside, you've seen the insanity of the legislature, of
- 2:26Speaker 1: politics in general. Is there an issue? Are there a
- 2:29Speaker 1: couple of issues? What is it that really motivated you
- 2:32Speaker 1: at this point to say, I need to do this?
- 2:34Speaker 1: I need to make this difference?
- 2:37Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So, you know, I'm running because, you know,
- 2:41Speaker 2: as someone who grew up in central Ohio, I mean,
- 2:44Speaker 2: I'm a proud Buckeye alum. You know, my wife and
- 2:47Speaker 2: I got married in this community, you know, and we
- 2:50Speaker 2: share its values. You know, I want our community to
- 2:53Speaker 2: get stronger and not just for everyone today. But, you know,
- 2:57Speaker 2: I've just I've got a son who just turned two
- 2:59Speaker 2: and I want his generation to have an even better
- 3:02Speaker 2: childhood than I did. And I want my son to
- 3:04Speaker 2: feel safe and have opportunities to learn and grow and
- 3:07Speaker 2: ultimately become an outstanding citizen who contributes to our society
- 3:11Speaker 2: and is guided by those same values that I think
- 3:14Speaker 2: were instilled in me. So. You know, the reason I'm
- 3:18Speaker 2: running is, I think, to me, fairly straightforward. I mean,
- 3:21Speaker 2: I don't want to just say, you know, it's like
- 3:23Speaker 2: the citizen legislator per se. But, you know, I do
- 3:26Speaker 2: think we, you know, with term limits, we've got a
- 3:29Speaker 2: lot of different movement within the chambers. And we do
- 3:33Speaker 2: need to start getting some people back in, I guess,
- 3:36Speaker 2: to be cliche and just get back to the blocking
- 3:38Speaker 2: and tackling of good state legislating.
- 3:40Speaker 1: What do you see that's right at the top of
- 3:42Speaker 1: the agenda? Do you get elected? You get in there.
- 3:45Speaker 1: You're sworn in. You figure out where the bathrooms are.
- 3:48Speaker 1: It's time to get to work at this point. What
- 3:51Speaker 1: is at the top of the list of things that
- 3:53Speaker 1: Bill Mercer wants to put in front of the legislature
- 3:56Speaker 1: and see if we can get something done?
- 3:58Speaker 2: Certainly. I think one of the biggest things that I
- 4:01Speaker 2: want to get in front of the legislature, I think
- 4:06Speaker 2: there's two issues. One of them is public safety. understanding
- 4:13Speaker 2: that our men and women in the blue uniforms and
- 4:18Speaker 2: our prosecutors should be working to make sure that our
- 4:20Speaker 2: community stays safe. That is, I think, just fundamental building
- 4:25Speaker 2: block of any great community is both the citizens and
- 4:28Speaker 2: the businesses need to feel like they're in an area
- 4:30Speaker 2: that is safe. And if someone is endorsed by the FOP,
- 4:34Speaker 2: I wear that very proudly in this campaign. I can't
- 4:37Speaker 2: stress enough the importance that these issues need to start
- 4:40Speaker 2: coming back to the forefront and need to be addressed
- 4:43Speaker 2: with some vigor. And the second issue that I would,
- 4:46Speaker 2: I really want to kind of, I'm not going to
- 4:47Speaker 2: say I'm going to fix it, but I definitely think
- 4:49Speaker 2: we need to have some conversations around school funding. You know,
- 4:53Speaker 2: in a couple of conversations I've had with people, you know,
- 4:56Speaker 2: I was back in the legislature when they still printed
- 4:58Speaker 2: bills on legal size paper to distribute for the session
- 5:03Speaker 2: and school funding was an issue back then. And I
- 5:06Speaker 2: think what we have to get back to now is
- 5:08Speaker 2: realizing throwing money at education isn't going to solve the problem.
- 5:11Speaker 2: There's a lot of other issues that need to be
- 5:12Speaker 2: done there. But we do need to tackle this funding
- 5:16Speaker 2: issue and just once and for all get to a
- 5:20Speaker 2: system that's going to allow each kid in Ohio to
- 5:23Speaker 2: have a solid education so that they've got a good
- 5:26Speaker 2: future in front of them.
- 5:27Speaker 1: We are at, what, year 24 since the pandemic? State
- 5:31Speaker 1: Supreme Court issued that directive to the legislature, change school funding,
- 5:36Speaker 1: and it's something that keeps getting kicked down the road
- 5:39Speaker 1: and kicked down the road. And now that we have
- 5:40Speaker 1: this property tax conversation going on at all kinds of levels,
- 5:46Speaker 1: those two things really walk hand in hand. So if
- 5:49Speaker 1: that's an agenda item for you, I have a feeling
- 5:51Speaker 1: that will probably be one of the first things that
- 5:53Speaker 1: you get to stand on the floor.
- 5:54Speaker 2: And argue about. Yeah, I think property taxes definitely will.
- 5:58Speaker 2: And that's a tricky issue, Chuck, because, you know, on
- 6:00Speaker 2: one hand, we do have seniors that we want to
- 6:02Speaker 2: protect and we want to make sure they don't have
- 6:05Speaker 2: to give up their home because of the fact that
- 6:08Speaker 2: the property taxes are running away. Secondarily, if we relieve
- 6:15Speaker 2: that tax burden, we then put it on top of
- 6:18Speaker 2: the working families of the community. So that tax burden
- 6:21Speaker 2: will actually increase. So I think we do need to
- 6:24Speaker 2: find a way to help seniors. But we need to
- 6:27Speaker 2: find accountability for where this money is going and how
- 6:30Speaker 2: it's being spent. And that's the biggest thing that I
- 6:33Speaker 2: want to help drive the conversation with that is, first,
- 6:38Speaker 2: are we getting the best bang for the buck with
- 6:40Speaker 2: the money we have? Then build in the relief and
- 6:42Speaker 2: then discuss what these tax brackets need to look like
- 6:45Speaker 2: after that.
- 6:46Speaker 1: Well, you know, and in the world of nonprofits, most especially,
- 6:49Speaker 1: probably the largest, most recognized nonprofit in Central Ohio is
- 6:52Speaker 1: United Way. And they do what they call results-based assessments
- 6:59Speaker 1: of the things that they fund. I don't see any
- 7:01Speaker 1: reason why that kind of philosophy can't be adopted by
- 7:03Speaker 1: the legislature. Because when you're looking at per capita spending,
- 7:08Speaker 1: look at what Upper Arlington schools spend per capita versus
- 7:11Speaker 1: what Columbus City schools spend. Columbus is outspending Upper Arlington,
- 7:16Speaker 1: but the end results are dismal compared to Upper Arlington schools.
- 7:21Speaker 1: So that kind of outcome based funding of the schools,
- 7:25Speaker 1: I think that needs to be brought to the table.
- 7:27Speaker 1: If you cannot do a better job of educating and
- 7:29Speaker 1: graduating good citizens, we're not going to keep increasing your
- 7:33Speaker 1: funding so that we can pad the teacher retirement system
- 7:36Speaker 1: and so forth.
- 7:38Speaker 2: No, you're right on the money there. You know, the
- 7:42Speaker 2: city of Columbus schools, if I'm remembering correctly, are spending
- 7:46Speaker 2: about a third more per pupil than Upper Arlington. And
- 7:50Speaker 2: that is something I think that needs to be evaluated
- 7:52Speaker 2: and there needs to be some accountability there. You know,
- 7:55Speaker 2: another example I use, I believe it is East Cleveland
- 7:59Speaker 2: Schools up in Cuyahoga County. In the current fair school
- 8:03Speaker 2: funding plan, they're actually, I mean, their funding numbers are
- 8:08Speaker 2: built on when that school had 40% more population than
- 8:11Speaker 2: what it does right now. But there's no mechanism to
- 8:14Speaker 2: make that adjustment, you know, in terms of how their
- 8:17Speaker 2: enrollment has gone. So there's a lot of money going
- 8:19Speaker 2: into a district that may or may not need to
- 8:22Speaker 2: go in there. And that's back to the point I
- 8:25Speaker 2: think you're making there. No one's asking these questions right now.
- 8:28Speaker 2: And as important as school funding is, I mean, you know,
- 8:32Speaker 2: in District 7 where I'm running right now, the three
- 8:34Speaker 2: main districts are Columbus, Upper Arlington and Granby schools, and
- 8:38Speaker 2: they're somewhere around 80, 85% locally funded. And I bring
- 8:45Speaker 2: this up because everyone wants more state funding, more state funding.
- 8:48Speaker 2: But you can go down to Vinton County, which Vinton County,
- 8:51Speaker 2: I think, is only 25% locally funded, or Tremble local
- 8:55Speaker 2: schools in Athens County, it's only 15% local funded, because
- 8:59Speaker 2: the property values in the business area or climate just
- 9:04Speaker 2: doesn't support the funding for those schools. So I acknowledge
- 9:07Speaker 2: there's areas in our state that need help and we
- 9:11Speaker 2: need to do what we can to help those areas.
- 9:13Speaker 2: But if we come back, you know, into central Ohio
- 9:15Speaker 2: where local school districts are funded, you know, 80, 85%,
- 9:19Speaker 2: and we're saying there needs to be more money into
- 9:21Speaker 2: the system. We, we need to, we need to ask
- 9:23Speaker 2: where the money's going for right now, before we start
- 9:26Speaker 2: talking about putting more money into the, into some of
- 9:30Speaker 2: these school systems.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. I agree there. You mentioned, uh, The FOP endorsement,
- 9:35Speaker 1: by the way, this is Bill Mercer joining us on
- 9:37Speaker 1: the LegacyRetirementGroup.com phone lines. He's looking for your vote on
- 9:39Speaker 1: Tuesday as the representative of the Ohio House of Representatives,
- 9:43Speaker 1: District 7. What from, at least your understanding, what from
- 9:49Speaker 1: the state level, the statehouse level, can be done about
- 9:54Speaker 1: those problems you talked about earlier as far as law
- 9:56Speaker 1: enforcement and first responders having support? because the municipalities, you know,
- 10:03Speaker 1: largely have control of that situation and aren't doing well
- 10:05Speaker 1: around most of Ohio.
- 10:08Speaker 2: Yeah. First, we got to start letting policemen do their
- 10:11Speaker 2: job and not bog these brave men and women down.
- 10:15Speaker 2: with just unnecessary paperwork and various different forms that need
- 10:22Speaker 2: to be filled out. Due process is one of the
- 10:24Speaker 2: most important things that I think is out there. So
- 10:27Speaker 2: don't let that be misconstrued in any way, shape, or form.
- 10:30Speaker 2: Of course, and you talk to the men and women
- 10:33Speaker 2: in blue, probable cause is always central to anything that
- 10:37Speaker 2: they start, and they document so much as it is.
- 10:39Speaker 2: But at the same time, with the amount of effort
- 10:42Speaker 2: that some of these prosecutors are making uh, police departments
- 10:47Speaker 2: go through in order to, to bring someone in and, and, and,
- 10:52Speaker 2: and allow, uh, the judicial process to play through on,
- 10:55Speaker 2: on various crimes. Um, like that relationship's actually kind of
- 10:59Speaker 2: becoming adversarial. And so, A, we need to make sure that,
- 11:03Speaker 2: you know, prosecutors are doing what they are supposed to
- 11:05Speaker 2: be doing, which is prosecuting the law. And I think
- 11:07Speaker 2: there's a lot of, the vast majority of them want
- 11:10Speaker 2: to do that, but there are some actors out there
- 11:12Speaker 2: that kind of feel like they're both legislative and judicial officers.
- 11:16Speaker 2: But secondarily, the police officers of our state need to
- 11:22Speaker 2: have the resources, not just training and equipment, but they
- 11:25Speaker 2: need to have the resources necessary you know, in terms
- 11:29Speaker 2: of both medical and mental health protections for doing such
- 11:33Speaker 2: a dangerous job. They need to know that safety net's
- 11:36Speaker 2: there so that when they're out there protecting our community
- 11:40Speaker 2: and something happens to them, both them and their families
- 11:42Speaker 2: are taken care of and they shouldn't have to lose
- 11:46Speaker 2: a wink of sleep thinking that our communities won't support them,
- 11:50Speaker 2: especially when both the officers and their families are giving
- 11:54Speaker 2: so much.
- 11:55Speaker 1: In speaking to somebody from the left side of the
- 11:57Speaker 1: political fence about a week and a half ago, I
- 12:00Speaker 1: was apparently speaking with a demon tongue or something. As
- 12:04Speaker 1: we were talking about law enforcement, the challenges that they
- 12:06Speaker 1: have and the fact that nobody can go to jail
- 12:09Speaker 1: in this town for anything I think they should go
- 12:11Speaker 1: to jail for. And I said, you know, we keep
- 12:13Speaker 1: coming up with these review committees, people to oversee how
- 12:15Speaker 1: the police use force and how the police adhere to
- 12:18Speaker 1: due process. Why do we not have a civilian judicial
- 12:22Speaker 1: review board in Franklin County for judges that continually release
- 12:26Speaker 1: bad guys onto the street? And, you know, just a
- 12:29Speaker 1: few days ago, here's the announcement. Guy runs from the police,
- 12:32Speaker 1: 130 miles an hour, crashes into somebody's house. He gets
- 12:36Speaker 1: community control. No jail time. And I saw nothing in
- 12:39Speaker 1: the news coverage about him reimbursing or paying for the
- 12:42Speaker 1: damage done for the house he drove into. And that's
- 12:46Speaker 1: that is maddening. And I have to wonder, why are
- 12:48Speaker 1: we not setting up a citizens committee to start pulling
- 12:51Speaker 1: the plug on some of these judges that make the
- 12:53Speaker 1: job of the police officers so much more difficult?
- 12:57Speaker 2: Well, it's a good thing to talk about there, Chuck.
- 13:00Speaker 2: But we also, we do have, as both citizens in
- 13:03Speaker 2: our community and the state legislature, we have vehicles that
- 13:07Speaker 2: we can use to try to make some of these corrections.
- 13:10Speaker 2: You know, you bring up a really good point because,
- 13:12Speaker 2: you know, we've had so many cases in the news
- 13:15Speaker 2: over the past, you know, five, six, seven years, you know,
- 13:17Speaker 2: where a police officer may, you know, was in a
- 13:20Speaker 2: very tough position to make a call in a very
- 13:23Speaker 2: short amount of time. And We then try that officer
- 13:27Speaker 2: in public in hindsight and pick apart every single move
- 13:31Speaker 2: that he does. And then in some instances now, these
- 13:34Speaker 2: police officers are now facing scrutiny and perhaps losing their
- 13:40Speaker 2: jobs because of one particular issue or decision. But somehow
- 13:44Speaker 2: or another, prosecutors aren't liable for fraud. Criminals, they're putting
- 13:48Speaker 2: back on the streets or judges are the same thing.
- 13:50Speaker 2: The judges, you know, I think we have to look
- 13:53Speaker 2: at the prosecutor's office first to be real candid with
- 13:55Speaker 2: you before we start looking at judges, because prosecutors make
- 13:58Speaker 2: a lot of decisions on whether or not to bring
- 14:00Speaker 2: charges to court. So we have to make sure these
- 14:02Speaker 2: people who commit heinous crimes are these cases are getting
- 14:06Speaker 2: before the judge without any type of prejudice. and that
- 14:10Speaker 2: the officers and that the citizens who are victims here
- 14:15Speaker 2: are getting their chance in court to make their case
- 14:17Speaker 2: before a judge to make sure that justice is fought.
- 14:20Speaker 2: You know, one of the things that I've talked to
- 14:23Speaker 2: a lot of people in the short and awkward is
- 14:25Speaker 2: they do feel, you know, the lack of presence with
- 14:28Speaker 2: policemen down there. And the only, you know, City of
- 14:31Speaker 2: Columbus's response at that initial point was just to put
- 14:34Speaker 2: more cameras down there. And so we've been talking to
- 14:36Speaker 2: people where cameras can't un-rob you. They can't un-assault you.
- 14:40Speaker 2: they can't un-murder you. And as obvious as that sounds,
- 14:44Speaker 2: we need to put policemen on the street. We need
- 14:46Speaker 2: to have them out there with the confidence that we
- 14:49Speaker 2: have their back, that when they apprehend these individuals and
- 14:52Speaker 2: they book them and bring them into court, that these
- 14:55Speaker 2: citizens are going to be protected by the court and
- 14:59Speaker 2: that these perpetrators are going to be tried and appropriately punished.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Bill Mercer is running for the Ohio House of Representatives
- 15:06Speaker 1: District 17.