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Know the Enemy - Georgia Tech · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  And welcome back to TV Boundary Corner Podcast, a part of the
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  soul after a crushing the feet. Oh man, I got to throw this one
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  up real quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Probably. And the Hokies do have another
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  15 yard penalty, yes. Yes, we do.
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  It's. Literally as any Anytime we say
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  a line, the Hokies just got another personal foul or.
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  It led to a touch. Some sort of dumbass.
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  Penalty. It led to a touchdown.
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  We will hit that later. But Tally, you shaking your
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  head, you ain't saying anything. What you doing man?
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  Man, it ain't nothing to say, man.
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  You know, we fought a coach. We know what we in for.
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  It was bad Saturday, you know, I'll just start by saying the
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  guys that are playing are playing hard and I know we'll
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  touch on some stuff later on 100.
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  Percent. But tonight, before we get into
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  that, as always, we are going to get to know the enemy with a
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  funny son of a bitch already. I'm going to say we were talking
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  before he jumped on. He made me laugh numerous times,
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  tried to make me feel better one time.
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  I don't know if that's going to work right now, that's going to
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  work right now. But anyway, hey, wreck talk.
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  Put him on the line, put him in the video chat.
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  He is our Georgia Tech guy. How's it going?
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  Love the headband by the way. You had to put the headband on.
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  I was sweating with anticipation to get on here.
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  So I played pickleball with the Clemson fan Pigskin Pete, and I
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  thought, hey, put the headband on, man.
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  Like, look, I know about misery. No one knows misery like rec
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  talk. And when you have a channel,
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  people don't realize how low the lows are, right?
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  Because you'll be doing a live stream.
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  Everyone is hate watching you. So you go from like 100 people
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  to 300 that are just there to trash you.
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  And that is the life of YouTube, I guess.
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  But yeah, how you guys doing? Yeah.
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  Man, right now I'm trying to figure out exactly to what
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  degree that I get to be a hater for the rest of the season.
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  Because when when you got a team like Virginia, Texas, like at
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  some point you're just trying to like pick people in the college
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  sports world. Who am I going to hate on?
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  So I can feel a little bit better about my situation.
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  And you brought up a good one just before we jumped on here.
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  Oh. God, yeah.
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  What you. All saying you were like listen
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  y'all ain't. You're not blue to Bill with
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  North Carolina. I mean that he doesn't have a
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  Blue 2. Sponsorship is a crime against
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  humanity in and of itself. Two different people have tried
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  to make documentaries on this complete shit show that is Tar
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  Heel Nation and both have been canceled.
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  One because of his 23 year old girlfriend.
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  I mean this. Who could have seen that this
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  wasn't going to work out? The man that hadn't coached
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  college football. And this is true.
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  I'm not even making this up. I'm a certified ball knower.
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  I couldn't have wrote that by myself.
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  That's all the way over there. I'm all the way over here.
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  He hasn't coached college football since before we landed
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  on the moon. These guys are addicted to
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  hiring geriatric patients that parade around as head coaches.
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  So I don't know. I mean, at least you're do you
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  are doing better than that you. Know what?
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  It could always be worse. We can all we can always we can
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  always be a little bit further in the cellar.
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  It's, it's it's just one of those things that's frustrating
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  the the time in college football that this is happening to
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  Virginia Tech seems to be not not the best time, but hopefully
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  we can get things get the ship righted with with some new, new
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  staff coming in here and things like that.
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  But. We got, we got to put this up.
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  For right now. Man, that, that guy right there,
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  man. My, it's like my dad told me
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  because I, you know, I was an idiot, girl.
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  I still am an idiot. My dad, you said, boy, there's
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  something bad wrong with you, you know, and he just kind of
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  stopped having anything to do with me for a minute.
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  There's something bad wrong with Jeff Collins.
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  In fact, I saw on your message boards before he went to North
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  Carolina, you, some of your fans were tossed around hiring them
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  as DC. You called me before you hired
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  Jeff Collins. We'll do that.
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  Well, let's get into it because we got to talk about your team.
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  And as these two teams get ready to meet down in downtown Atlanta
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  Saturday afternoon, 3:00 will you be in attendance?
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  Yeah, I'll be there. I'll be in Atlanta.
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  I'll be. In fact, we gifted some tickets,
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  so I'm going to go around. There's a guy that's an idiot
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  that sat behind me the other during the Clemson game and
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  yelled for the backup quarterback to come in.
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  So I'm going to go tell him, give him the old what's there,
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  Fred? But I'll be there.
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  Nice. Tally, did you decide?
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  I know you've been playing with driving over from Huntsville.
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  Are you going to go? Yeah, still on the fence.
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  I don't know just yet. We'll know for sure tomorrow.
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  I don't. Know we're talking about it.
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  It's only a 2 hour drive, so he just wakes up that morning.
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  He wants to go, He'll drive and find a ticket.
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  I'll let it go. There you go.
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  You need a. Ticket go to the strip club.
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  Go to the strip. Club over there.
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  I've got 4 tickets now if you want one.
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  Well, me and my wife was going to go, so I may need, I do.
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  I may need to, yeah. I will talk with you a little
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  bit after the show for sure. Yeah, they, they're closing down
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  all the, all the gentlemen's establishments we like, but I, I
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  will find some for you. Look up Claremont Lounge.
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  That's where we'll end up going with.
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  The two meetings of the Live from the Boundary Corner podcast
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  and Rec Talk go downtown Atlanta.
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  There has to be photos of this tally, so please, please I'm.
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  Going to tell you right now there ain't going to be no
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  pickleball playing. I got I got one good thrust in
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  me and then I'm done. I.
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  Fall out under no pressure you admitting this live on the
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  Internet for everybody the. Pickleball is done.
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  Yeah, man. Well, it's like Vegas, you know,
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  I won't tell nobody. I mean, if you don't so.
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  Let's pull this back in. I don't know how I'm I'm
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  cracking up over here. Yeah, so Virginia football.
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  Well, let's talk about y'all man, because I'm, I'm, I'm going
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  to start on offense because good Lord almighty Haynes King.
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  You know what tally you said? Say what you said a few weeks
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  ago about Haynes King and why you loved him so much, about how
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  he's. Playing tough.
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  He's a tough motherfucker, man. Like he just wants to win.
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  If I was our coach or whoever is running the team out every week,
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  I would put videos of Hayes King on the screen and say Kyron,
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  either you do that or you got to come sit down, buddy.
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  He is running the ball. If he has any opening, he is
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  running the ball and they don't want to hit him.
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  I don't even know how big the kid is, but I do know that
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  defense don't want to hit him after about two quarters.
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  So may not be the conventional way to use a quarterback.
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  But he is a Georgia Tech legend by how he plays football.
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  Got to love him man. Yeah, man.
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  So, so rectal, what are you feeling this year?
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  Any different? I mean, part of all he, he is
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  playing unbelievable. He is like what Tally just said.
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  He is playing. Like in five years, when he
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  walks back in the stadium, it's going to be like, there's the
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  God. Holy fucking shit.
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  It's Haynes King. Yeah.
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  Yeah, I mean, he's a guy that walks in a room.
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  His wiener's been there for 10 minutes already.
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  You know, he's one of them type guys.
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  And here's the thing, Haynes King is a phenomenal player and
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  I might catch shit from my own fan base.
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  He's not really a quarterback like he does throw and he has
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  had serious injury issues. He's just, he's a certified ball
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  player. He's just a ball player.
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  He's a tough son of a gun. You don't really know what
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  you're getting with them. Sometimes, though, like, you
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  know, we did lose against Georgia last year.
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  But I mean, he had like 400 yards of offense against Georgia
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  by himself, won the game against Colorado, spotting them three
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  turnovers by himself. But like then we just refused to
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  play for 1/2 against Wake Forest for some reason.
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  So I don't know, like my thing with Haynes is like he's never
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  going to be 100% healthy. Like he's going to be something
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  but maybe is 80% now is Max. It's like in NCAA 26 y'all play
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  that he you don't know how red he is.
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  Sometimes it's just like the sun just burning there.
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  But now he's a good one. And you know, we have a really
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  good backup, too, if we do have to use them.
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  And Aaron Philo broke Trevor Lawrence's record in Georgia and
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  high school. You got some good supporting
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  cast members and Jamal Haynes and Malachi Hosley at running
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  back. One guy you probably don't know
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  about is a guy named Isaiah Canyon.
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  That's a place wide receiver. He's he's a OK now.
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  Go ahead and roll on him because it was one of the guys we wanted
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  to talk about was Isaiah Canyon. And I mean kid, I mean y'all got
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  him straight out of high school. What second year?
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  True sophomore. Already.
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  This year, man. He probably would have played
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  before now. He tore his labrum his senior
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  year in high school. But he's just big.
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  Like, as bad as Clemson is right now, like their defense has that
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  probably at least five guys are going to get drafted off their
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  defense. And he was dragged.
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  All of them. He was dragging them.
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  He's 64, probably 2-10, something like that.
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  We haven't used them quite as much.
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  Eric Rivers, he was all American.
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  That came out of FIU that we kind of swapped with.
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  We lost Eric Singleton, junior to Auburn.
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  So offensively, like if we hit on all cylinders, like we got
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  guys that can play. I think we're first in the
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  conference and sacks allowed. We've given up the least amount
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  of sacks. Y'all.
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  Are like top 15 in the country and sacks allowed.
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  Y'all are unbelievable. Yeah, and part of that is an
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  artifact of the offense that we run.
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  You know, I'm not saying we have the best offensive line in the
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  country. Miami might might have that.
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  But yeah, the the problems for Georgia Tech are going to be
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  defensively. There are definitely things you
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  could exploit on us defensively. Well.
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  Let me Well, you probably ain't going to have to worry about it
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  much this week. I'll go ahead and tell you.
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  Let me throw one other name out there on office because you
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  mentioned him, but I want to ask how important it is this year is
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  Malachi Hosley because Haynes was here last year and Hanes had
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  a great season. How much, how important is it
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  for what y'all do to have that basically third runner on the
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  field that can do whatever he wants whenever he wants?
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  Because if you ask me, watching all the games, we know what
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  Hanes is going to do. We know what Hanes is going to
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  do. But when you have that third guy
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  and it's like, you know what? We still can do.
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  We can still run it right at you with our third guy, and he's
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  just as damn good as these first two.
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  Yeah, that's not just a Georgia Tech thing.
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  I mean, every team in the country's got to have three
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  running backs that can go and you're going to, you're going to
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  have three. Well, you need to, if you're
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  going to have sustained success, you need 3 running backs and go.
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  One of them's going to get banged up at a minimum for any
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  team throughout the season. But yeah, Jamal hangs.
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  He actually pulled something, I don't know how serious it is in
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  warm ups before. Wait.
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  So we'll see. He didn't have a good game last
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  week, but Malachi Hosley, the guy that came out of Penn, I
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  think he's from Roswell, GA or something like that, Roswell
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  Alpharetta. He he's a guy that as soon as
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  they put like pads on it, practice like he just started
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  running by people. He's not big, but he's really
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  important. And then you get into we get
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  like Chad Alexander back, Trollane Maddox, some other guys
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  that you know, can distribute that load because you can't just
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  bang Jamal Haynes for, you know, all game.
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  You know, you got to, you got to take some weight off his
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  shoulders. Yeah, I mean.
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  Yeah, and you, like you said, you got a, you got 2 running
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  backs there that can, can make a little bit of noise for you.
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  Let's pull back a little bit and talk about the offensive
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  coordinator, Buster Faulkner. When it when it, when it comes
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  to scheme and game plan. Like what does he bring to the
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  table? I know you know, he's a
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  coordinator. He also coaches tight ends for
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  y'all right? So what?
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  What's his? What's his biggest yeah benefit
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  that he brings to the team from a scheme standpoint?
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  So he so it is interesting usually your OC is your
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  quarterbacks coach at almost every school.
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  We have Chris Winky, though, on staff that's really good with
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  quarterbacks. Buster.
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  One thing that he does like and if you watch Georgia Tech at
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  all, almost every play has motion in it lot of motion to
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  get as much information from the defense as you can like the guys
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  running with the slot to the other side of the field.
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  All right, they're probably in man right.
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  He also does a lot of very, I don't know if innovative is the
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  right word. He does a lot of interesting
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  things in the run game, like he'll pull a tight end and
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  tackle on a play on like a quarterback power or something.
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  So Buster is very good at tailoring to the strengths of
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  his teammate. The way he uses Haynes King is
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  ideal for the most part. Like, yeah, you're going to you
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  might stuff some of this power option stuff situationally, but
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  he's going to find a way to to get Haynes King is his rushing
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  yards. And then you know, some
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  interesting past concepts on the back end of it, right, Like
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  throwing it, throwing it deep to damn.
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  I can't remember his name now. We just talked about a big 6
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  foot 4 kid, Isaiah Canyon, right, stretching, stretching
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  the field and then and then running it back on the
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  quarterback power. So I think he calls, you know, a
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  really good game for the most part.
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  Didn't didn't really show against weight last week.
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  But I mean, look, Buster's one of the most popular names and
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  and coaching hires right now and he was last season as well.
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  Nice. Any anything else on offense?
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  Anybody else on offense we have not mentioned that jumps out to
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  you? You've mentioned a bunch of
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  names. I mean, I wanted to talk about
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  Haines King, obviously Jamal Haines and Hosley and he threw
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  up Canyon. And I was like, well, as there's
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  a guy I wanted to hear about and now I'm hearing, well, he's 64,
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  he's 215. He ragdolls defensive backs,
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  yes. Yeah, I mean, I guess the the
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  only other thing I'll say, and I don't even know what to to make
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  of this is in more than one press conference, Brent Key
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  said. Yet, you know, the more hurt
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  Haynes King is, the better he plays, which has been true.
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  It was true way, you know, it was true.
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  Like as soon as he starts pulling this dumb and ass
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  routine, he'd ends up running for 45 yard touchdown or
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  something. So take make that what you will.
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  It seems like he just got that gamer button.
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  Like as soon as he is in those crunch time situations he makes
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  the most of it and just gets gets the job done.
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  It's what Tally has said numerous times.
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  There are certain guys, they're never going to make it pro.
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  Now you're in the area of college football, right?
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  You can make a shit ton of money and you can submit your
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  legendary status. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
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  Look at Tim Tebow. He he was never going to be an
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  NFL starting quarterback for any length of time.
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  He's one of the greatest college football players ever, though.
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  Yep. Yep, not a lot.
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  Let's flip over to defense for a little while here and I want to
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  make something completely didn't know until I started doing my
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  research this week. You guys flipped DC's Tyler
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  Santucci, Georgia Tech after one year after coming over from Duke
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  and Elko's tree comes to y'all has a solid season.
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  Well, first of all, maybe he wasn't a solid because he went
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  up to Baltimore and their defense is absolutely shit right
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  now and he's in linebackers coach up there.
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  So maybe it's him, maybe it's not.
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  But y'all go hire Blake Giddy and his safeties coach up at
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  Texas basically for their deep run last year.
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  And he'd been there with Sarkeesian for the last three
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  years. What difference you're seeing on
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  the defensive side of the ball this year, just with Gideon, or
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  is it more, you know what, he steadied the ship and we're
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  still rolling? So Brent Keys had more defensive
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  coordinators than years than he's been head coach at wards
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  attack. So we we brought over or we kept
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  Andrew Thacker, who was a Collins hire for whatever
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  reason. Now I get why our defense was
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  the cornerstone of Keys interim year.
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  He basically assaulted him on the sideline of the Bowling
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  Green loss and then we fire him, promote Kevin Sharer to DC, fire
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  both of them. So he had two DC's in the same
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  year. Then you talked about it.
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  We bring in Santucci, who I didn't even learn his name until
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  he was already gone. I thought his name was Santucci
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  and he was really good, though he came from Duke.
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  He was a linebacker's coach. Our linebacker play had been
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  atrocious up to that point. Blake Gideon came in, which was
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  really exciting for us as Tech fans because we're we're really
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  good or most of our defensive talents in the defensive
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  backroom. Blake Gideon played defensive
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  back when he was at Texas. They had one of the best pass
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  defenses in the country as far as what I've seen from him and
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  and he's never called plays before too.
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  So there there is some learning curve in this for him.
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  Really. The Georgia Tech defense has
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  been been but don't break and they've been really good at
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  times like turning the ball over three straight possessions to
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  start a game. I don't know that I've ever seen
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  that I was melting down, especially because I bet
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  Colorado fans I would drink a 40 year old Coke if they won that
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  game and I was like, Oh my God, I might have to drink a 40 year
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  old Coke. But they gave up three points
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  off those 3 turnovers. I mean a point, a turnover is
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  pretty good. They have been lit up.
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  The The thing is we don't have a pass rush right now.
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  We have to be near last. I think we're 16th in the
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  conference and sacks. So, you know, we've got to be a
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  little more creative with how we drop stunts and blitz, blitz
• 21:59
  packages. But as far as what I've seen
• 22:02
  from Blake Guinea, if you look at the rankings, right, 65th in
• 22:05
  total defense, it's been bend but don't break.
• 22:10
  OK, All right. And I mean, that's kind of the
• 22:13
  same style that we try to play, but we've been breaking a whole
• 22:15
  lot so. Oh yeah?
• 22:17
  Well, that would just be break. It wouldn't be.
• 22:19
  It would be No, it's, it's bend and then break and then crumble.
• 22:24
  Yeah, it's, it's the whole 9 yards there.
• 22:26
  Let's flip over to. The you're right, you're you're
• 22:29
  you're 15, not 16. Both 2.
• 22:31
  The two of the North Carolina schools are worse than y'all
• 22:33
  would getting sacks when we played already.
• 22:36
  Yeah, we got. Blue to build.
• 22:38
  Blue to build. All right, so yeah, let's let's
• 22:41
  flip it over though. So we got, we got these, we we
• 22:44
  learned here about the the new DCA little bit.
• 22:47
  Let's talk about that defensive line.
• 22:50
  I'll let you jump in with a couple guys that you like.
• 22:52
  I know we had kind of circled Jordan Vandenberg as kind of
• 22:56
  being the guy on the interior there, but is there anybody else
• 22:59
  you want to talk about and let let the fans know about on the
• 23:02
  Georgia Tech defensive line? Yeah, Vandenberg's good.
• 23:05
  He came from Penn, like squats, like 600 something pounds or
• 23:09
  something. You know, he's really the leader
• 23:10
  on the defensive front. We lost a ton last year on the
• 23:13
  defensive front. In fact, he's the only one
• 23:15
  that's really played any meaningful snaps.
• 23:17
  It's returning this year as opposed to last year.
• 23:21
  The old money from Texas Tech took Rommelo height.
• 23:24
  They seem to be doing fantastic right now.
• 23:26
  Another one. This is interesting, a kilo
• 23:29
  stone. He's also a defensive tackle
• 23:32
  left Georgia Tech to go to Ole mess and now he's transferred
• 23:35
  back to Georgia Tech No, it was in consecutive season so one
• 23:42
  season he left to get Ole mess played down there next season he
• 23:44
  came back to play for Georgia Tech.
• 23:46
  He's been really good for us he's I want to say he's been
• 23:50
  banged up. I know he's had to come out of
• 23:51
  games sporadically. King season says Gideon has done
• 23:56
  solid through five games for a guy who is a first time play
• 23:59
  collar. But bad for how much we paid
• 24:02
  him. Well I don't know man.
• 24:03
  What are we paying him like 800,000 a year?
• 24:05
  I mean the the highest paid coordinators are defensive
• 24:08
  coordinators. I think there's ADC that makes
• 24:10
  over 3 million or something. That's it's it's Knowles of Penn
• 24:15
  State. We know because he was going to
• 24:16
  get paid for 1.8 million by us if he hadn't fucking went on
• 24:19
  that run with Ohio State. There you go.
• 24:22
  Yeah. Yeah, see.
• 24:25
  Yeah, I mean where we're weak on that defensive front is at the
• 24:28
  end and that's where if you want to be really strong on defense
• 24:32
  and you could pick one position to be really good at, it would
• 24:35
  be a defensive end. I mean the the less you have to
• 24:38
  cover, the better, right. You don't have to be that great
• 24:41
  and in your defensive backfield if you can get to the
• 24:43
  quarterback and that's great of problems for us.
• 24:46
  Like Wake was able to just run simple go routes, split, you
• 24:50
  know, Wake was running cover 2 and split the safety and corner
• 24:54
  at the boundary multiple, multiple times.
• 24:56
  We just weren't able to get there.
• 24:57
  So some work to be desired for sure on the defensive front,
• 25:05
  which again is making over a million a year, OK.
• 25:09
  Still don't matter like. That's the one we had to make.
• 25:13
  But now I'm just going to say the main person that everybody
• 25:17
  sees or in my opinion, it kind of jumps off the page on your
• 25:20
  defense is your linebacker. I mean, it looks like he's out
• 25:24
  of a horror film. Face paint everywhere, got the
• 25:27
  big cowboy collar. I mean, how has he been playing
• 25:32
  this year and and what do you think about him?
• 25:35
  He's been playing well. I mean, he is a menace as far as
• 25:39
  run stops concerned like and and just like open field tackle and
• 25:43
  getting a guy on the ground really good Blitzen.
• 25:46
  But he can be exposed in coverage.
• 25:49
  You know, anytime I see him matched up on the slot with
• 25:52
  somebody, 'cause, look, usually your slot receivers, your
• 25:55
  fastest receiver, like a smaller fast receiver, He he gets
• 26:00
  exposed a lot. That happened last year.
• 26:01
  It's happened a few times this year.
• 26:02
  But Efford, I mean, look, any any dude that wears a cowboy
• 26:06
  collar and I didn't even know they made those anymore.
• 26:08
  I I mean, I didn't see anyone wear that until he did.
• 26:12
  Yeah. So I mean, you got something
• 26:15
  going on. Hey, real quick, there's another
• 26:17
  linebacker. I I've kind of noticed a couple
• 26:20
  times he transferred over from Oregon State and he's, he's
• 26:23
  great and pretty high in PFF and all categories tackling
• 26:26
  coverage. And that's Melvin Jordan the
• 26:29
  4th. Where is he lining up?
• 26:31
  Like is he primarily weak side or is he playing like some of
• 26:34
  the outside linebacker? I'll be honest with you, I'm not
• 26:39
  sure I would assume he he's outside.
• 26:41
  He seems like a more athletic guy like him.
• 26:43
  We have three more athletic linebackers in like EJ Lightsley
• 26:46
  that came in from UGA last year, Melvin Jordan came in this year
• 26:51
  and then a guy named Jackson Hamilton that came in from
• 26:55
  Louisville. And we've, we, we, we do a
• 26:57
  pretty good job at rotating situationally those guys in like
• 27:00
  if we, you know, they bring out four wide receivers, we're
• 27:03
  probably going to bring E Ford off and put Jordan in or EJ
• 27:06
  Lightsley in. OK.
• 27:08
  So he's he's more of a coverage oriented linebacker.
• 27:12
  Maybe, I don't know. I'll be honest with you, I
• 27:14
  haven't paid that much attention to it.
• 27:16
  I've been oogling over Haines King and and stuff like that.
• 27:20
  As you should, as you should. We went to last one, Brian.
• 27:26
  Yeah. I mean your secondary, I know
• 27:28
  you talked about there was some, you know some problems there as
• 27:30
  you as Wake was coming in, especially the inability to get
• 27:33
  get pressure on there and you know some coverage breakdowns.
• 27:35
  But you know, we kind of circled Amari Harvey cornerback, but
• 27:41
  want you to talk about him a little bit, maybe some of the
• 27:43
  other guys in that secondary that have been some some
• 27:46
  playmakers for you. Yeah, Mari Harvey's good.
• 27:49
  I didn't really know how good he was until I I played NCAA 26 and
• 27:53
  that he scored like 14 points a game as a defensive back.
• 27:58
  But now he's been good this season, really good in coverage
• 28:02
  together as a ton of experience, which is which is needed.
• 28:05
  Another guy that I'm really high on is a guy named Clayton
• 28:08
  Powley. We in the past we've been so bad
• 28:11
  at linebacker, like more toward his sophomore year that he had
• 28:15
  to play linebacker. So he's a big, you know, £200
• 28:19
  plus safety. We actually interviewed him on
• 28:21
  the channel his freshman year. He came out of Westlake, which
• 28:24
  is where Cam Newton came out of in Georgia.
• 28:27
  So that they're a football factor.
• 28:29
  We've got a few kids out of there, but Clayton Powley really
• 28:32
  good at at being a run stopper out of safety.
• 28:36
  Just just reading the reading the offense and knowing where to
• 28:39
  be on the field. I mean, hell, probably more than
• 28:42
  half of playing defense is just knowing what spot you need to
• 28:46
  get in. Yeah.
• 28:46
  Oh, A. 100% being at the right. Spot doing the show lady, sorry.
• 28:56
  So so going into this game Saturday, obviously y'all are I
• 28:59
  mean. What?
• 29:00
  This might be the first. Time ever in this series with
• 29:03
  Y'all and us going back to 2004 that anybody's ever been this
• 29:09
  big of a favor in this game. I think it's it was 14 1/2 is
• 29:12
  where it started. I am not sure where it is right
• 29:14
  now. It's a lot.
• 29:15
  Of points. That is a shit ton of points,
• 29:18
  but where is your? I mean, is there, is there a
• 29:21
  concern as you're looking through your team through the
• 29:24
  lens of, OK, we're undefeated, top 18 in the country, we're
• 29:28
  leading the ACC. Is there any fear right now?
• 29:33
  Like we're going to fuck this up?
• 29:35
  Where are you standing going into this game?
• 29:38
  Yeah, I mean, look, do I think there's only 12 teams in the
• 29:42
  country better than Georgia Tech?
• 29:43
  No. No, I don't.
• 29:45
  Georgia Tech has the benefit of a very easy schedule this year.
• 29:49
  I mean, you look at their wins, where is the big quality win
• 29:53
  you'd say for Georgia Tech? They don't have one.
• 29:56
  You thought Clemson, maybe. But Clemson, you know, you can't
• 29:59
  get out of their own way. Can't you know they can only
• 30:02
  beat Troy in North Carolina, which is not a great resume.
• 30:05
  And yeah, I'm I'm certainly scared.
• 30:10
  Like never bet. Georgia Tech is a favorite.
• 30:12
  First of all, I hate sports betting.
• 30:15
  And I in fact, years ago I told my dad like, I think I'm going
• 30:19
  to take Ole mess on the money line over Alabama.
• 30:21
  This what he told me this for all you guys listening, he said
• 30:24
  well, I guess if you're tired of giving your ex-wife all your
• 30:27
  money, you can give the rest of the bookie.
• 30:29
  All right, so don't don't bet on sports.
• 30:32
  These guys know what they're doing and if you have to bet
• 30:35
  don't bet tech as a favorite. Go watch last week against
• 30:38
  weight Tech's a team that plays to the level of talent that is
• 30:44
  across from them. Like they'll they'll go beat
• 30:46
  Miami last year, you know, and then lose to Virginia Tech.
• 30:51
  You know, not to crap on Virginia Tech, but you'd think
• 30:55
  if you can take care of Miami, you should have been able to
• 30:57
  take care of Virginia Tech. And we had injury issues and all
• 30:59
  that. I get it.
• 31:01
  I they kept showing a stat during the weight game.
• 31:03
  He's like 9 and one nine and one against ranked ACC opponents
• 31:06
  after that win and 9 is 8 against unranked ACC opponents.
• 31:12
  So we it's almost like he holds stuff back for teams that, you
• 31:17
  know, that are these big marquee matchups that I hope that's not
• 31:21
  like a a thing that continues with them.
• 31:23
  But this is the exact type of game that Georgia Tech stumbles
• 31:27
  in. And it's been a little while
• 31:28
  since we beat y'all. When was the last time we beat
• 31:30
  Virginia Tech 21? You beat us in 2021.
• 31:35
  That was first, first season we I think that was A1 score.
• 31:43
  Hold on, I'm 90 since years A1 score loss.
• 31:47
  Yeah, when when you. Said the stuff with the with all
• 31:50
  when he said the stuff with like holding back for the good teams.
• 31:54
  I I was getting Fuente vibes for yeah, the hokey fans.
• 31:58
  I was like, OK, well, because Fuente always, you know, put out
• 32:01
  a good team, even you win or lose.
• 32:03
  It was a good game against the quality opponents and, you know,
• 32:06
  you turn around and lose a bunch of games you had no business
• 32:10
  losing. And yeah.
• 32:12
  Yeah, I mean, it's wild. It might have been 2022.
• 32:16
  It was his interim year, I think because we didn't play the year
• 32:20
  before last and you beat us last year.
• 32:23
  That was that was when we had Pyron who ended up transferring
• 32:26
  out and broke the collarbone and whatnot.
• 32:28
  But yeah. I think Pyron came in in the
• 32:30
  game. Y'all beat us too though.
• 32:32
  Yeah, we started Gibson, who I call cinder block feet and he he
• 32:37
  transferred to Georgia State and and lost that that competition.
• 32:41
  So, yeah, but yeah, no, this this game does scare me.
• 32:45
  The only silver lining for me is it's in Atlanta.
• 32:48
  Like I, you know, no matter how down Virginia Tech might be, I
• 32:52
  mean, I think Blacksburg can be a tough place to play.
• 32:56
  Always laugh. So what it what's your big key
• 32:58
  this week? I know what you said to play the
• 32:59
  level of competition. What's the one thing if you say
• 33:02
  if I look at this, if if I get blackout and drunk pass out,
• 33:06
  forget what happened Saturday and if I wake up, there's one
• 33:10
  stat line I'm looking and said if we did that, then we won the
• 33:12
  game. Combined rushing yards of Jamal
• 33:15
  Haines and Haines King. If I knew that number, I would
• 33:18
  tell you if it's above 160, I would say 99 times out of 100,
• 33:23
  Georgia Tech's going to win that game.
• 33:25
  And that's that's not just a Virginia Tech thing.
• 33:27
  If Georgia Tech can get their rushing yards in, they tend to
• 33:31
  beat whoever they're playing. Got it, Tyler.
• 33:34
  Anything else you want to ask Mr. Rick?
• 33:36
  Talk here tonight, Sir. No, man.
• 33:39
  I mean, he's giving us a lot of information.
• 33:41
  He's he's the blow. He's been very nice to us today.
• 33:44
  So I mean, I appreciate him being on it.
• 33:47
  And Red. Stomped on our grave or
• 33:49
  anything. Told us we were better than UNC.
• 33:51
  I mean, what else can you ask for?
• 33:53
  Well y'all don't do. Having three touchdowns, almost
• 33:57
  running. Y'all don't do dumb stuff like
• 33:59
  other fan bases do, like lose everything that's good about
• 34:03
  your team and say you're going to be better this year.
• 34:04
  Like, I don't know, Colorado. Or hire a bunch of people that
• 34:08
  have never coached before and say because they were good NFL
• 34:12
  players, that's going to mean something.
• 34:14
  Yeah, I mean, I hadn't done any of that.
• 34:16
  Right. Hey man, we're checking all the
• 34:19
  boxes. Then I.
• 34:19
  Was going to go ahead and get a. Fucking coach.
• 34:21
  Natty incoming. Hey, oh God, don't we wish?
• 34:27
  Don't we wish? Well, listen, Rick talk, dude.
• 34:30
  We talked with you last year. If you were fun then, you're fun
• 34:35
  now, Tally. Tally is going to hook up with
• 34:38
  you. Because if Tally comes to
• 34:39
  Georgia Tech and y'all go to the Claremont Club and do all this
• 34:42
  stuff, I want pictures because I had a feeling it's going to be
• 34:45
  one of those nights. Y'all don't.
• 34:46
  Remember, you should look up Claremont.
• 34:48
  You're not going to want to. You're going to want pictures.
• 34:52
  You're. Not going to want to look up
• 34:53
  Claremont. My own it's you don't even go
• 34:55
  there for gratification. You go there for entertainment.
• 34:58
  OK, this is, I mean, what would the dive bar equivalent of of
• 35:05
  the titty club be? I don't know.
• 35:07
  That's what it is though, OK. All right, all right.
• 35:11
  The dive bar equivalent of the titty.
• 35:13
  Club, just just. Write that down.
• 35:15
  Just write well. Listen man, we appreciate you
• 35:19
  taking a little bit of your time this evening.
• 35:21
  Talk with us on Georgia Tech, Give us a little background.
• 35:24
  Tell everybody where they can find you in.
• 35:26
  When will you be going live to talk about this game from
• 35:28
  y'all's perspective? Yes, you can find me.
• 35:32
  Just search Rec Talk on YouTube. I'll be there talking trash
• 35:35
  about someone. I just did a video on old
• 35:38
  Bluetooth Bill and how I told you that wasn't going to work
• 35:40
  out and people didn't want to listen to me.
• 35:42
  And I've been more right about North Carolina than their own
• 35:44
  fans for the past three years. You can find me on Twitter.
• 35:49
  Yeah, man, you can find me on Twitter at Rec under score Talk.
• 35:53
  Because some porn bot hacked my other account so I lost that
• 35:57
  one. As far as when I'll be going
• 35:59
  live, I don't know. Probably at some point that
• 36:02
  night. I usually will stream the like
• 36:04
  the late late game that night. So like whatever the 1030 game
• 36:08
  is. I did convert to Mormonism in
• 36:10
  exchange for a win against Wake Forest.
• 36:13
  I I converted to Christianity earlier in a previous season and
• 36:19
  so my soul is pretty cheap. It ended up working out.
• 36:22
  Explain how we beat weight down 20 to 3.
• 36:25
  So usually BYU plays at 10:30 and I'll stream them.
• 36:29
  They are not playing. Are the referees Mormons?
• 36:31
  Is that is that what's going on? Well.
• 36:34
  First of all, I wouldn't question the power of Joseph
• 36:37
  Smith on the stream like that. I mean, you're welcome to, but
• 36:41
  that's the only thing I can accredit it to.
• 36:43
  So you're converted to Catholicism Next time you'll
• 36:45
  play Notre Dame. I would know, first of all,
• 36:48
  first of all, Notre Dame, you got Jesus overlooking your
• 36:52
  stadium. When was the last time they they
• 36:55
  went to a natty last night and win it.
• 36:57
  They hadn't even won a postseason game prior to that
• 36:59
  since, I don't know, Lou Holtz was there or something.
• 37:01
  So it's a little suspicious to me.
• 37:03
  Oh God. I love it I love it Rick talk
• 37:09
  great talking with you man. We hope that we continue to play
• 37:12
  y'all so we can bring you on every year for 40 minutes so
• 37:16
  unfiltered entertainment. Take care of yourself and
• 37:20
  appreciate it man. What?
• 37:22
  By the way, UNC evidently just made a statement about Bill
• 37:25
  Belichick. I got it up here.
• 37:29
  This is from the UNC athletic department.
• 37:31
  I am fully committed to the UNC football program, to UNC
• 37:35
  football in the building here. Bill Belichick, Coach Belichick
• 37:39
  has the full support of the Department of Athletics and
• 37:42
  University. Bubba Cunningham.
• 37:45
  Therefore, after they lose and get squirrel stomped this
• 37:48
  weekend, he's going to get fired.
• 37:50
  It's a guarantee now. If you got to make a statement,
• 37:54
  you got the full support. You don't have the full support.
• 37:57
  Yeah, if you have to come out and make a statement like, hey,
• 37:59
  you know, his girlfriend is not actually coaching the team and,
• 38:03
  you know, he isn't actually asking for concession money
• 38:06
  before the games, it's not a good look, man.
• 38:08
  I mean, I don't. Can you imagine watching Jeff
• 38:12
  Collins coach at Georgia Tech and say I want that, I think and
• 38:18
  hiring them. I mean, these guys are addicted
• 38:20
  to paying buyouts like some crackhead over here in downtown
• 38:23
  Atlanta. I ain't never seen nothing like
• 38:25
  it. They ought to.
• 38:26
  Just do sports betting the they would lose less money just
• 38:31
  flipping a coin on the spread than than their buyouts.
• 38:34
  They're paying coaches anyway. Talk to you guys later.
• 38:37
  Appreciate it man, have a good one.
• 38:39
  Appreciate it. Oh my God, deep breath here.
• 38:42
  You know what? They may feel a little bit
• 38:50
  better for the next few minutes at least before we get over.
• 38:55
  Don't. You can keep looking at you can
• 39:00
  keep looking at UNC stuff and understand that the man who made
• 39:03
  that statement's name is Bubba and laugh at that.
• 39:07
  Bubba. Bubba Cunningham.
• 39:08
  Bubba Cunningham Oh my God. Alrighty, well, I think we don't
• 39:13
  have shovel tonight, so we're going to roll on and let's just
• 39:18
  talk about Saturday and let's tell the truth because you know,
• 39:23
  versus Wake Forest, there's a 30 to 23 loss.
• 39:28
  And what went well? Well, right now we aren't UNC,
• 39:33
  we aren't Oklahoma State. I was going to say we aren't
• 39:36
  UCLA, but God damn it, look what they went out and did on
• 39:40
  Saturday afternoon. Yeah, man.
• 39:42
  It's but y'all, y'all bronze owe me 30 years, Tal, You've owe me
• 39:47
  about five years now. I'm a pretty optimistic
• 39:50
  individual, right? Pretty optimistic.
• 39:52
  Positive. Yeah.
• 39:55
  I can't find shit on Saturday that went well and it won't just
• 39:59
  because we lost there. Was a lot.
• 40:02
  There was a lot like that. Yeah, I mean, the best thing you
• 40:06
  could say is like the running game in the first half was
• 40:09
  decent. Not not spectacular, but not
• 40:14
  awful. We went away from it too much.
• 40:18
  Kyron still threw more than he needed to, for for as
• 40:23
  inefficient as we were passing the football, we still threw the
• 40:27
  ball way too many times. Good tally.
• 40:31
  Agreed. Agreed.
• 40:33
  No, I think the only thing I can say that went well was the kids
• 40:37
  that are getting in the game are playing hard.
• 40:39
  And I don't see people that are in the game quitting.
• 40:42
  You know, we're just taking tons of plays off.
• 40:46
  I think they're playing hard. I just think we're not a good
• 40:49
  team. I mean, that's, that's, that's
• 40:53
  all I can say about. I mean, we, we got some people
• 40:56
  that are playing that probably shouldn't be playing, but I feel
• 40:59
  like that 90% of the kids that are getting in the game are
• 41:04
  playing hard. So that's what I will say about
• 41:07
  what went well. Not much.
• 41:10
  Well, the only thing is, and this is what I get any more
• 41:12
  pissed off about and I'm going to go Randy here for a second.
• 41:17
  What pisses me off is I couldn't find a damn thing in my opinion
• 41:20
  that went well and we lost about 7 points.
• 41:23
  I I could not find anything like I'm trying to say what did we do
• 41:26
  good? What, what, what, what, what do
• 41:28
  we do good? I don't see anything that went
• 41:30
  well. Watch most of the games.
• 41:33
  Well, Curtis, we can go to flip the flip the pivot to the next
• 41:37
  thing and say what went bad and it'll tell you why you lost by 7
• 41:42
  after you couldn't find that much.
• 41:46
  Number one we'll start with is fucking penalties.
• 41:49
  That's what went bad. Penalties went horrible.
• 41:54
  Man penalty penalties are what are what are they doing?
• 41:57
  So the the problem that I'm seeing with the penalties, like
• 41:59
  penalties are penalties like you're going to get penalties in
• 42:01
  the game. We're getting penalties
• 42:04
  absolutely kills, drives it. It either takes points off the
• 42:07
  board or gives them points to go on the board, gets us out of
• 42:11
  field goal rate. Like we get penalties at times.
• 42:15
  We cannot afford to get penalties all the time, all the
• 42:19
  time. How many drives it was?
• 42:22
  I was trying to do the count 17 points right rough in the past.
• 42:28
  Seven more. I killed 17 roughing the passers
• 42:33
  extended the drive. They would have had to punt or
• 42:35
  go forward on like 4th and seven unsportsmanlike that would have
• 42:39
  ended the drive. 7 special teams over to center.
• 42:45
  Although I I was going to bust you whole, but then it was like
• 42:49
  I looked at where that they only threw that damn flag because
• 42:54
  they missed a field goal and they he had it slightly shoulder
• 42:57
  over to center. That's the only reason they
• 42:59
  threw it. If he makes it, they don't throw
• 43:01
  the flag. So but that's 17 points and when
• 43:06
  you lose a game by 7, you just want to throw shit like that
• 43:09
  because it's like take all that off the board, it's a 10 point
• 43:12
  win. Yeah, I think we had one more,
• 43:15
  though somewhere. I can't remember what it was.
• 43:18
  I could not bring myself to go back and watch any of that game
• 43:22
  because it was so bad, like how I felt.
• 43:26
  But I feel like it was one more thing that we did, extended a
• 43:30
  drive for them or something that we hit somebody.
• 43:37
  Is that it right there? No.
• 43:39
  That's the rough of the passer, Brian.
• 43:41
  What else? What else went bad on Saturday?
• 43:44
  Because I'm going to try to find it.
• 43:45
  Because I found the rough of the passer.
• 43:47
  I'll find the other ones in a second here.
• 43:50
  I mean, you know, the, the second bugaboo on top of the
• 43:54
  penalties is not finishing drives, man.
• 43:59
  We're, we're getting historically bad in terms of
• 44:03
  getting in the red zone and not being able to, to get a
• 44:07
  touchdown in the process. We're kicking too many field
• 44:11
  goals. We're, we're, we're, we're
• 44:13
  letting drives fizzle at the wrong times, whether it be
• 44:16
  because of those penalties or because of bad execution or, you
• 44:20
  know, inconsistent play call. There's just, there's so many
• 44:23
  reasons that we're just fizzling out when we get in the red zone.
• 44:26
  And you know, some of that's on Kyron, some of that's on, you
• 44:29
  know, other areas of the of the offense.
• 44:31
  But at the end of the day, if you're not scoring touchdowns
• 44:35
  when you drive the field, you're falling behind, man.
• 44:38
  You can't leave that many points on the field consistently and
• 44:41
  expect to win football games. Jordan Bass ran somebody over in
• 44:45
  the second day or two. I don't know if it led to
• 44:48
  points, but. I think, I think I know what
• 44:51
  you're talking about like that was API and I do think it, I
• 44:54
  think it ended up in a field goal.
• 44:56
  So that would have been another three points.
• 45:00
  Can I say this defensively though?
• 45:04
  Y'all, if you want to go to NCAA stats, guess who's dead last in
• 45:09
  red zone defense. And I'm talking about dead
• 45:12
  fucking last. I'm talking about tied with the
• 45:15
  most opportunities and literally cannot stop a score inside 20
• 45:20
  yards. That's us dead last.
• 45:24
  Well, we can't score inside of the 20 either, Curtis.
• 45:27
  Yeah, another thing that went bad.
• 45:28
  We're we're bad in in the red zone both ways and it hurts.
• 45:34
  It hurts. Because Saturday, you look at
• 45:37
  John Loves field goal, what were they like, 31?
• 45:41
  Yeah. 313334 Yeah, You start doing that math, it's like, wait
• 45:46
  a second, that means you were like snapping that ball.
• 45:50
  It's about a six yard snap, right?
• 45:52
  Y'all both played 6 yards. That means you were.
• 45:55
  Inside your 15 three times. The last one you were inside the
• 46:00
  tent. That was the IBM.
• 46:05
  Can't push the ball in. And I, and you know what I got
• 46:08
  to, I got to throw a disclaimer out there because I said
• 46:11
  something about Murray and I didn't mean to talk about him,
• 46:17
  even though, you know, I got to come back and give my man an
• 46:20
  apology. I haven't really watched him.
• 46:22
  I finally he jumped off the the page this past game.
• 46:25
  But I think whoever what he's #9 right.
• 46:31
  Yeah. IBM is number 9.
• 46:33
  So the other corner of safety that's been playing is he #8 no,
• 46:38
  not 8, that's Christian Ellis. Whatever number was the one that
• 46:41
  wasn't turning his head, I think it was Brown.
• 46:45
  Caleb Brown. Yeah, Brown's not.
• 46:47
  Playing right now. Yeah, I know.
• 46:49
  But I'm saying in in the first couple of games, in the early.
• 46:53
  Season. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 46:54
  yeah, yeah. That's who I was thinking Murray
• 46:57
  was. I got to, I got to tell my man
• 46:59
  Murray that hey, man, I apologize.
• 47:01
  Didn't mean to come at you thinking about Breon Murray.
• 47:04
  It was actually Brown that was screwing up.
• 47:08
  But anyway, yeah, we are still had.
• 47:12
  Murray gave us a good, you know, IBM had gave us a good
• 47:15
  opportunity to go score some points, get a pick, trying to
• 47:18
  get to the end zone. When he didn't get to the end
• 47:19
  zone, Curtis text me and say we ain't going to score, we're
• 47:22
  about to kick. I did text you that when he
• 47:24
  didn't get in. 33 plays later, 3 plays later, what happens?
• 47:30
  We kicking a foot? The field goal from the fucking
• 47:32
  10. Wait a second, didn't we get a
• 47:34
  penalty too on that drive to back this up a couple yards,
• 47:37
  yes. We did.
• 47:39
  We got a couple on. On 3rd and it was like third and
• 47:41
  one or third and two or something, we get a penalty,
• 47:44
  takes us back to like the seven or eight.
• 47:46
  Curtis if the drive started with first down, we got a penalty on
• 47:49
  it. That's bad.
• 47:52
  That's bad. That's bad.
• 47:54
  Pitiful, Brian, what about this? Because we we mentioned Congress
• 47:58
  play, we talked about that a little bit more, but and I don't
• 48:01
  think Hasbro's won't get fixed this year.
• 48:04
  No, I mean, you know, some of the elements that we we were
• 48:07
  expecting to have have are no longer in the game, two of them
• 48:13
  in particular. And they're not going to be
• 48:17
  coming back. They are off the roster and it's
• 48:21
  hard to absorb that type of loss and expected to be consistent
• 48:26
  because even the guys behind it, if they Got Talent, they you
• 48:29
  know, there's a reason they're behind there.
• 48:30
  They may not be ready for one reason or another.
• 48:32
  And we just can't we can't get after the passer.
• 48:36
  And that was already a problem because we were still working in
• 48:42
  a somewhat inexperienced secondary behind Dante Lovett,
• 48:45
  who is also no longer playing on this on this football team.
• 48:49
  So you have a bad combination of a lack of pass rush and a
• 48:54
  secondary, particularly a cornerback group that is pretty
• 48:59
  inexperienced, and it's starting to show.
• 49:01
  And you know when you add into that Christian Ellis being out
• 49:04
  this game, that that that put them in even deeper bind.
• 49:10
  So you're not a lot of good. And now, and I'm going to say
• 49:14
  this and make people mad, we're O and three at home.
• 49:19
  O and three and unless you beat Cal in three weeks, 2 weeks, 2
• 49:27
  weeks, there's not going to be a home win this year.
• 49:32
  Yeah. There's not going to be a home
• 49:33
  win this year. That is just being brutally
• 49:37
  honest. Barring a miracle.
• 49:40
  Barring a miracle, you ain't being Louisville.
• 49:43
  You ain't, we ain't being Miami. So be prepared for that Friday
• 49:49
  night game. Better be the Super Bowl for the
• 49:51
  kids. All right, I'm going to go with
• 49:53
  my what did anything happen that we weren't prepared for?
• 49:58
  Me and Tali sat here and I confidence and said we're not
• 50:01
  winning this game. But for me, my thought was Damon
• 50:06
  Claiborne is going to run over us.
• 50:07
  He's going to have 120 yards, 2 touchdowns.
• 50:10
  All the kids from King William going down there to watch him
• 50:13
  are going to see it. Well, he gets hurt.
• 50:16
  They don't have a running game. He goes for 29 yards.
• 50:20
  We keep them to 90 yards on the ground.
• 50:22
  You tell me we kept that team to 90 yards on the ground.
• 50:25
  It was like, well, we won the game.
• 50:28
  Like now, you lost and they scored 30.
• 50:33
  Where did those points come from?
• 50:35
  Points come from. They couldn't.
• 50:37
  Win the ball, but it goes back if you can't, if you can't pass
• 50:40
  rush and you got inexperienced cover guys.
• 50:44
  Even those ducks that were getting thrown out of the
• 50:46
  backfield there were getting home.
• 50:49
  You dropped at least three interceptions that I saw.
• 50:56
  Just not good, man. Just not good.
• 50:57
  And again, there's no disrespect to the coaches.
• 51:00
  No, I mean no disrespect to the kids that's playing, but it's
• 51:04
  like you fired your head coach because he wasn't getting it
• 51:07
  done. And you've had, I think we've
• 51:10
  had four or five defensive starters that have been out
• 51:15
  that's not playing or, you know, leaving and maybe 6 or 7, two
• 51:20
  deep guys. I mean, you almost got to hold
• 51:23
  you've. You've lost almost half of your
• 51:25
  two deep in one way or another between guys that are Portland
• 51:29
  and guys that are injured. Yeah, right.
• 51:31
  So it's like it's never an excuse.
• 51:33
  You definitely want to go and win a game, but for me, I'm
• 51:36
  like, I'm still watching, I'm still getting upset when we
• 51:40
  don't win. But realistically, taking a step
• 51:42
  back, looking at things, I'm like, man, these kids, right?
• 51:45
  They can't win. They can't win together.
• 51:46
  They don't know how to win. I mean, you've been under a
• 51:49
  coaching staff that doesn't know how to win and now you got kids
• 51:53
  that don't know how to win. You know, they just, they don't.
• 51:56
  But again, we can talk a little bit.
• 52:00
  We ain't going to stay on that long, but we can talk a little
• 52:03
  bit about the landscape of college football and coaching.
• 52:07
  It's coming up. I think Curtis messaged me
• 52:09
  earlier today and said we ain't got to talk about it now.
• 52:13
  But if. Yeah, he said, we ain't got to
• 52:15
  talk about it now. But if you had one person that
• 52:18
  you're looking at as head coach, who would it be?
• 52:20
  And I thought about it because I throw different names out to
• 52:23
  Curtis all the time, sometimes playing, sometimes, you know,
• 52:27
  just bouncing it off to see what he says.
• 52:29
  And then I was thinking to myself, really, I don't know.
• 52:32
  I really do not know because I really feel like any name that
• 52:37
  you throw out, it's going to be a a crab in a bucket in four
• 52:42
  more weeks because it's going to be some coaches, more coaches
• 52:46
  get fired. It's going to be more coaches
• 52:48
  get shuffled. So it's like who who do you look
• 52:51
  at? Somebody put Jimbo in the in the
• 52:53
  in the chat again. We going to answer all the
• 52:57
  coaching things, but I, I don't know.
• 53:01
  I don't know how I feel about it.
• 53:02
  Well, we're not answering that for two reasons, because next
• 53:04
  week we have to talk about this game and all y'all who have been
• 53:08
  willing to talk about coaching for the last month, next week's
• 53:12
  going to be a week because we're going to let you come on and you
• 53:16
  going to put your face on screen and you don't say who you want
• 53:19
  to be The next head coach. College book of the Virginia
• 53:21
  Tech opies I've got. Mark it down.
• 53:24
  Mark it down. Save the coach.
• 53:26
  Batter for next week. We are thinking it's Monday
• 53:29
  because we've got things going on all our lives that where it
• 53:32
  ain't going to be a Tuesday. Wednesday.
• 53:34
  Bryan, by the way, you didn't respond.
• 53:35
  Is Monday good next week? For you, Monday is great.
• 53:38
  Monday next week we're going to talk about the Georgia Tech
• 53:41
  game. Maybe something good.
• 53:45
  I highly doubt it, but bring who you think you want the head
• 53:49
  coach to be. Why did I say give you all a few
• 53:51
  weeks? Everybody was all over John
• 53:53
  Summerall's ass. I want the Tulane coach.
• 53:56
  He looked like shit against Ole Miss, didn't he?
• 53:58
  Anybody talked about him anymore.
• 54:00
  But why not? Why don't you go with him?
• 54:02
  He's a good coach. Now he looks like crap.
• 54:05
  Somebody saying James Franklin, you got somebody in mind?
• 54:09
  You're going to come here and you're going to see it live on
• 54:11
  there and it's going to be recorded.
• 54:13
  So if you say something, really something stupid, everybody in
• 54:17
  the world that watches our program is going to know and
• 54:21
  we're going to reveal ours too. We're going to reveal our tally.
• 54:24
  You got five days, you got 5 days.
• 54:27
  Think about who you want, who you want, and you can make it
• 54:30
  realistic, unrealistic. So that's next week.
• 54:33
  This is what I'll ask though. This is what I'll ask the the
• 54:36
  chat when you come next weekend to talk about your coaches.
• 54:41
  At least give us some background on why you picking this coach,
• 54:45
  why you think they'll be good. Give us something.
• 54:47
  Don't just come in here and say Nick Saban.
• 54:50
  It can be unrealistic, but at least give us something.
• 54:54
  Hey, I think Saban could come in.
• 54:55
  He could build a program up. He may do it for two years.
• 54:58
  Take it on as a, you know, take it on as a as a project.
• 55:02
  He's from West Virginia. Have some kind of substance
• 55:05
  behind it if you're going to pop on.
• 55:07
  I get it, man. We'll run a space just to talk
• 55:09
  crap. So when we get on air and we
• 55:11
  want to do some talking, still don't mind talking crap, but I
• 55:14
  just want a little bit of substance.
• 55:16
  If you're going to come on, give me a little bit of reason why
• 55:18
  you pick that person. What you what you're feeling.
• 55:22
  Somebody said James Franklin. I'm hearing James Franklin's
• 55:25
  buyout is $50 million. OK.
• 55:30
  It's probably not going to be James Franklin.
• 55:31
  So Pat Fitzgerald. Me selling out, hey, I want to
• 55:36
  say this because you said it about bringing the sauce.
• 55:39
  The last time we did this, people would have got on,
• 55:42
  brought the sauce. Y'all brought it that that was
• 55:46
  one reason when this happened, I didn't want to do it right then
• 55:48
  because you need to see how things matriculate.
• 55:50
  You need to see other coaches being fired.
• 55:52
  You need to figure out OK, who's who's a realistic option.
• 55:56
  And next week we're going to be about a month and a half out
• 55:58
  from when it's going to be announced.
• 55:59
  It's not going to be beforehand. The only way it's going to be
• 56:02
  beforehand is if it's a coach not coaching right now.
• 56:05
  That's the one let's do for him. All right, last piece what we
• 56:09
  can do better moving forward and I'm going to throw this to
• 56:12
  Brian. First tally you go second all.
• 56:15
  Right. We love Kyron.
• 56:18
  We've interviewed him. He is a hell of a young man,
• 56:21
  nice as he can be, plays hard. But should there be a
• 56:26
  quarterback change before some point this season?
• 56:31
  This for me. This is you first, then Tally
• 56:34
  can chime in. At this point, I say yes,
• 56:39
  because at, at this point we know what Kyron is and what he
• 56:44
  isn't. We, we've, we've seen enough
• 56:46
  tape at this point where I don't think we're all of a sudden
• 56:50
  going to see a different football player roll out there
• 56:54
  next week. Now what what he does is that he
• 56:57
  does have games where he is playing confidently and can can
• 57:03
  play a notch up. But the issue that we have has
• 57:07
  always been consistency. And we haven't found the recipe
• 57:14
  to to to get him to a point where he can play his best
• 57:19
  consistently. And I think at this point, it's
• 57:23
  probably better served for us to figure out what we have behind
• 57:27
  him, regardless of who the next coach is, because there's going
• 57:30
  to be conversations of who you can keep, who you can pay, all
• 57:33
  these things. And you got two guys behind him.
• 57:38
  Correct me if I'm wrong. Both of them have remaining
• 57:40
  eligibility. So I'd at least want to see what
• 57:44
  they have. I'd like to see what they can do
• 57:47
  with the roster that's remaining for this team because obviously
• 57:51
  they don't have they're they're not coming into this like Kyron
• 57:55
  where where they've, they've worked with some of these guys
• 57:58
  for, you know, a couple years at this point.
• 58:00
  And you know, they, they're, they're coming in fresh.
• 58:01
  I'd like to see what they can do with some of the talent that's
• 58:03
  already on the roster because we know Kyron's not going to be
• 58:06
  here next year one way or the other.
• 58:08
  So. Now, Kyron's a senior SO.
• 58:11
  Yeah, exactly. So he's not going to be here one
• 58:12
  way or the other. Exactly.
• 58:13
  So at at the end of the day, I'd like to, I'd like to see some
• 58:19
  new blood in there and just see, see what if that can bring a
• 58:22
  little bit of a spark to the offense.
• 58:25
  Yeah, no, definitely. Even if you just doing it for a
• 58:28
  series or a couple of plays and trying to throw some different
• 58:32
  wrinkles in. I mean, you got to do something.
• 58:36
  You got to try to go win some games.
• 58:37
  You got to go try to, you know, give some kids the opportunity
• 58:41
  because everybody's, you know, vying for a position, whether
• 58:44
  it's at Virginia Tech or if it's at William and Mary, you know,
• 58:47
  whatever. If they're thinking about
• 58:49
  transferring to, I will say if I'm the coach and I'm leaving
• 58:53
  Kyron in, I'm not. He's not passing the ball 30 * a
• 58:57
  game or 25 * a game. I think his sweet spot for me
• 59:02
  passing the ball is probably 15 to 20 * a game.
• 59:07
  And guess what you're going to be doing on those other plays?
• 59:09
  You're going to be running it. You got to, you got to.
• 59:13
  I mean, if you're going to look right now, Hanes King has 108
• 59:18
  pass attempts, 74 completions for 758 yards.
• 59:24
  Again, that schedule has been easy, but still, you still got
• 59:28
  to go out and win the games. You know he's got 3. 100 he's
• 59:31
  got 3 touchdown passes. Yeah, he's not, he's not, he's
• 59:36
  not a passing. He's not a like like, Rick Talk
• 59:40
  said. He's not really a quarterback,
• 59:41
  you know, He's a football player.
• 59:43
  He just goes out and does what needs to be done to win the
• 59:45
  game. Now Kyron, on the other hand,
• 59:47
  almost has 100 more pass attempts than him, you know, and
• 59:52
  that's great. We're not getting anywhere with
• 59:53
  this crazy. Not at all, and I know.
• 59:55
  They got an extra 197. Still.
• 59:57
  Yeah, and I'm with y'all on this and I think it's more for the
• 1:00:02
  fact of for wrangle and pop than anything.
• 1:00:05
  And I don't care who plays and who doesn't.
• 1:00:08
  Or both of them play. You got to be fair to those
• 1:00:11
  guys, they came here, they expected to be backups and then
• 1:00:14
  expect to compete in the future for the job If, and you don't
• 1:00:19
  know if they're going to be able to stay here or not, right?
• 1:00:22
  You don't, You don't because we don't know who the coach is yet.
• 1:00:25
  At least get them some game film and everybody's like, well what
• 1:00:30
  about winning the game y'all? We ain't doing.
• 1:00:35
  It we ain't doing it. We ain't five and one in
• 1:00:38
  struggling. We're two and four.
• 1:00:42
  It's it's one of those things where at some point, you know,
• 1:00:46
  I'm not saying cut losses, but you need to look at up and down
• 1:00:49
  the roster, like what's happening on defense with like
• 1:00:51
  Chambers and Robinson playing over young older guys, JoJo Crim
• 1:00:55
  playing over some older guys, a couple different Brett Clatter
• 1:00:58
  Brawl's playing a couple older guys.
• 1:01:00
  Well, eventually you've just got to be to the young guys.
• 1:01:02
  Like, listen, go out there and play because if you're not here
• 1:01:04
  next year, at least you've got, you know, 5000 snaps of game
• 1:01:09
  film where you can go show somebody.
• 1:01:11
  Hey listen, this is what I am. Yeah.
• 1:01:13
  Let me ask you this because I mean, we're, we're getting to a
• 1:01:17
  point now where just doing the math and looking at the schedule
• 1:01:22
  and I know the schedule is what it is, but when you look at it,
• 1:01:27
  you don't see a a lot of wins left on this on the schedule.
• 1:01:30
  So the one goal that potentially is still on the table is highly
• 1:01:35
  unlikely, which would be making a bowl game, right?
• 1:01:37
  So that's highly unlikely at this point.
• 1:01:40
  So the next best thing is to get the guys that have remaining
• 1:01:43
  eligibility a whole lot of snaps or as many snaps as you can get
• 1:01:48
  them. I I, I don't necessarily like
• 1:01:50
  you want to win the game. Yes, you want to go out there
• 1:01:52
  and put your best out there. Yes, every week, but at the same
• 1:01:55
  time you want to see what you have because this we're playing
• 1:01:58
  the long game at this point. Not that this season doesn't
• 1:02:01
  matter anymore, but the outcomes of this season matter a whole
• 1:02:06
  lot less than what's coming in 2026 and in the future. 100% All
• 1:02:13
  right, So real quick, I mean, we, we talked with Rhett talk.
• 1:02:19
  Y'all got a key for this week? A key, A key.
• 1:02:26
  What's the key to a if if the hope if we're sitting here next
• 1:02:29
  Monday before we'd go into coach talk and we're like holy bleep,
• 1:02:33
  we did it. How do we do with Brian Siegel?
• 1:02:35
  What's the key? The the key is going to be when
• 1:02:39
  they get inside the 20, you force them to kick for three,
• 1:02:43
  and when we get inside the 20, we're scoring touchdowns because
• 1:02:46
  we've been awful in both directions.
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  If we do that with any degree of competence, we'll at least make
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  that a game. Haynes King's health and us
• 1:02:59
  having somebody having a God game and like Stewart had
• 1:03:05
  against North Carolina State, that's the two things.
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  Somebody having a crazy game, running the ball because it's
• 1:03:11
  not going to happen in the past. And then and then the receiving
• 1:03:14
  yards and Haynes King. I don't want nobody to get
• 1:03:17
  injured. I'm just saying how Haynes King
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  plays and like Rick Talk said, it's a lot of times where, you
• 1:03:25
  know, he could get banged up a little bit.
• 1:03:28
  So his health and thus running. But he also plays better when
• 1:03:35
  he's when he's nicked. So if he's going to get nicked,
• 1:03:39
  he's got to get nicked enough to get out the game.
• 1:03:42
  Yeah, if you if you've asked. Me how to win this game, He
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  needs to pass the ball like 40 times.
• 1:03:52
  If Hank's Kings passed the ball 40 times, then we have a shot
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  because that tells me we stopped.
• 1:03:59
  We slowed them down enough running and we did what Brian
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  said. We scored a couple touchdowns
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  inside the red zone. So now they're like, all right,
• 1:04:08
  we got to pass the ball. 40 times if he throws it 40 times,
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  then that that's what I'm saying the rails, well, that's what I'm
• 1:04:16
  saying his. Highest this year is 28.
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  That was against Clemson. But what I'm saying is if he has
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  to pass that much again, that was a three-point win against
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  Clemson. If he has to pass that much,
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  that's our only chance. If you tell me he's at like 18,
• 1:04:32
  Oh God. It's going to be it's they
• 1:04:34
  going, they going to easily cover, easily cover 14, Yeah.
• 1:04:39
  Because, because at that point if like Wreck talk was talking
• 1:04:42
  about, you look at the, the Russian attack, they're, they're
• 1:04:44
  going to be easily over that, that 160 mark that he was
• 1:04:47
  talking about, there'll be somewhere north of 200 in those
• 1:04:49
  rushing yards if he's only throwing 18 times. 100% All
• 1:04:54
  righty, Brian, I, I put on there, let's talk about the
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  portal. Fuck the portal.
• 1:04:59
  We'll talk about the portal next week and we got a little more
• 1:05:01
  time. Fuck that portal.
• 1:05:03
  Fuck the portal right now. Next week, let's get
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  predictions. Is anybody predicting to win?
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  I'm not. No.
• 1:05:11
  Dally. No.
• 1:05:14
  I mean, I'm, I'm respectable. I'm tempted to to say Georgia
• 1:05:18
  Tech covers Georgia. No I think I think Virginia Tech
• 1:05:22
  would cover it. May be a 14 point game.
• 1:05:24
  It was a 14 1/2 last we checked. It was.
• 1:05:28
  Hold on. That's what it opened at.
• 1:05:30
  Let me see where it's at now. Hold on, let me get to my out
• 1:05:33
  here. That indicates how much it's
• 1:05:35
  going. To be, they'll RIP my heart out
• 1:05:37
  and lose by, you know, 14 points or 10 points or something crazy
• 1:05:42
  like that. 14 1/2 Fourteen and a half Fourteen and a half 14 1/2
• 1:05:46
  Is it? 10 to 14 point game is what I
• 1:05:49
  think Georgia Tech's winning. 10 to 14 Georgia Tech Good point
• 1:05:53
  here by King season. He did throw 42 times in a game
• 1:05:58
  they should have lost. That was against Wake.
• 1:06:00
  They're 42 times. All right, well, let's get to
• 1:06:04
  it, Brian. Let's look at our gambling picks
• 1:06:06
  because, you know, why not? We ain't got much else to do.
• 1:06:10
  Why not? So.
• 1:06:12
  We're looking like the Hokies out here, man, What the hell?
• 1:06:14
  All right, well, Tally and Tally and Shelton could come back to
• 1:06:19
  500 this week. I'm truly looking like the
• 1:06:21
  Hokies. We not coming back.
• 1:06:23
  I know I'm not. So how did how did I go?
• 1:06:27
  Actually 500 last week. That was unexpected.
• 1:06:31
  If you bet with me last week for the first time since I think
• 1:06:34
  week 1, you would have at least broke even. 100% who knows
• 1:06:41
  Brian, you went all, you went a couple of sideways ones and it
• 1:06:44
  works sometimes. I think you took you took UVA,
• 1:06:48
  that was 1, you took UVA and what was your other one?
• 1:06:54
  Hold on. Blank and Jafferdin hang on a.
• 1:06:55
  Minute averdin here, where is it?
• 1:06:57
  I got it wrote down somewhere. Miami Miami saved you the two
• 1:07:09
  biggest rival puts Brian in 500 last week.
• 1:07:13
  Well, this week, by the way, we, we, we talked about it when we
• 1:07:17
  were chatting. Tal, I think you said it or
• 1:07:19
  maybe Brian, y'all said one of y'all said it.
• 1:07:21
  Like, holy shit, there's a bunch of good games this weekend.
• 1:07:24
  A ton of good. Games, yeah.
• 1:07:26
  At least what, four or five? Ranked versus ranked.
• 1:07:30
  Yeah, right, Four or five ranked versus ranked couple, 5 huge
• 1:07:33
  rivalry games. And I'll start it off and I am
• 1:07:37
  going to the biggest rivalry game this weekend at the Texas
• 1:07:42
  State Fair in the Cotton Bowl, the Red River Shootout.
• 1:07:46
  You ever call it a rivalry? You're not a fucking college
• 1:07:49
  football saying go away, go away.
• 1:07:52
  I wish I could change my bet based on the news that literally
• 1:07:55
  broke an hour ago and I sent you all the message.
• 1:07:59
  Like damn it, John Matee is now questionable to play.
• 1:08:05
  John Matee is Oklahoma's quarterback who's been balling
• 1:08:07
  this season before he fucked up his thumb, but we.
• 1:08:10
  Did you take Texas? I'll go ahead play.
• 1:08:13
  Texas, I think, because if Matee wasn't going to play, I think
• 1:08:16
  Texas had a chance to win this game.
• 1:08:18
  I'll have to stick with it because that's what you know,
• 1:08:21
  when we when when we make our picks at the time it's time to
• 1:08:25
  make the picks. That was my knowledge.
• 1:08:27
  Texas 1 1/2. Please don't let Matique play.
• 1:08:32
  Y'all can beat Texas by a point without Jon Matique playing and
• 1:08:37
  still get a win. Texas.
• 1:08:41
  Sheldon Rd. letter right along with you there bud.
• 1:08:44
  Tally you. Texas.
• 1:08:50
  And even without the information on quarterback, I went OU here I
• 1:08:54
  think. That you did.
• 1:08:56
  I thought it was going to be a scraper by OU.
• 1:08:58
  Regardless, I I haven't liked what I've seen from Texas at all
• 1:09:01
  this year so far so. They trash.
• 1:09:04
  They do, right? They're trash.
• 1:09:06
  I mean, they got stomped in the swamp by the Florida team.
• 1:09:09
  So yeah. All right, next game is who's up
• 1:09:15
  next, Sally. Hi, Lee.
• 1:09:20
  I'm definitely going to be a LSU fan for this game.
• 1:09:25
  I hope they win by 40 points because I'm a hater and one of
• 1:09:29
  the things I want to hate on is South Carolina.
• 1:09:31
  But I am taking South Carolina in this this point spread just
• 1:09:37
  because I want LSU to do that. And unless you that defense
• 1:09:41
  hadn't looked that great to me. I mean, offense, the office
• 1:09:43
  hadn't looked that great to me, so I don't think they're going
• 1:09:46
  to score enough points to beat them by 10 points.
• 1:09:50
  Yeah, when we were when we were doing the picks for this and,
• 1:09:54
  and and Tally dropped his and I was like, you know, he gave his
• 1:09:57
  justification. I was like, OK, so we're we're
• 1:09:59
  in full hate mode at at this point that that's all we have to
• 1:10:05
  cling on to for the rest of the season is being haters.
• 1:10:07
  And I'll, it's fun. As depressing as it is, it's at
• 1:10:12
  least a little fun to hate on that.
• 1:10:13
  But I think South Carolina's going to keep this one close
• 1:10:16
  enough to to cover there. But I do think LSU takes the
• 1:10:19
  victory, so I'll take South Carolina as well.
• 1:10:25
  I'm going to take South Carolina as well, but for for another
• 1:10:30
  reason. A no Smyers out Garrett.
• 1:10:33
  No Smyers not playing anymore this year.
• 1:10:36
  He's done done. Yep.
• 1:10:38
  And I think 9 1/2, and by all means, I mean South Carolina
• 1:10:45
  could have been in Missouri the other week.
• 1:10:48
  South Carolina could easily be 4 and one right now.
• 1:10:50
  I think they cover and I think they got a chance to like pull
• 1:10:54
  off a massive upset down in Death Valley.
• 1:10:58
  I mean, I mean, because if you shame the first thing you throw
• 1:11:04
  is just throw the line like they ain't got a starting
• 1:11:06
  quarterback. And they say they're going to be
• 1:11:07
  just about 10 points. Yeah.
• 1:11:10
  Shelton, I think he rode along with us.
• 1:11:12
  That is a across the board. That's a BCP suite baby.
• 1:11:16
  Yep, next is Shelton's pick. Not here.
• 1:11:21
  BYU, Arizona. Arizona, the unranked team at
• 1:11:27
  home getting the 1 1/2 points. An 8:00 game out of 1030 game by
• 1:11:34
  the way. So this will not be rec talks
• 1:11:36
  game of the week that he live streaming.
• 1:11:38
  But Sheldon, what did he say? What did Sheldon say?
• 1:11:41
  Sheldon's riding with Zona Tally.
• 1:11:45
  I'm riding with Zona as well. B Ron All.
• 1:11:50
  Right. Not so fast, guys.
• 1:11:52
  I'm gonna go with this. I'm gonna go with the Mormons,
• 1:11:54
  man. We had we had them come up
• 1:11:57
  earlier. Might as well ride with them,
• 1:11:59
  baby. All right.
• 1:12:01
  I'm going Arizona too, and here's why.
• 1:12:04
  Unranked team. Y'all know who BYU is playing
• 1:12:06
  next week? Who we got?
• 1:12:08
  They play in Utah in the Holy War.
• 1:12:10
  Their mind is not going to be on play in Arizona.
• 1:12:13
  Their mind is going to be playing Utah at Utah next week.
• 1:12:18
  They are going to stumble, lose their undefeated record before
• 1:12:21
  they go to the Holy War. Arizona plus 1 1/2.
• 1:12:26
  Ryan, where's our last stop on this wonderful trip?
• 1:12:32
  Oh, you know where we're going. Eugene, OR.
• 1:12:36
  Yes, Sir, yes Sir. This is probably the marquee
• 1:12:40
  matchup of the week. I was kind of fighting back and
• 1:12:46
  forth on this one, even with that line.
• 1:12:48
  But ultimately where I landed is I think it's going to be about a
• 1:12:51
  touchdown victory for Oregon. That hook was a little too much
• 1:12:56
  for me. I think Oregon's going to roll
• 1:13:01
  them. I don't think I think I would
• 1:13:03
  have taken this at 9:00 or 9 1/2.
• 1:13:05
  Oregon rolls up there. Indiana crashes back to earth.
• 1:13:09
  They're truly first. We saw what happened last year.
• 1:13:12
  They beat shit out of everybody. Then they had to play a big boy
• 1:13:14
  and they got thumped. They going to get thumped again.
• 1:13:18
  Yeah, I got to go Oregon. I can't really.
• 1:13:22
  I can't really choose any Indiana games.
• 1:13:26
  I think it was Jason last year. Was it Jason or Robbie J?
• 1:13:31
  Jason, that would throw. Throw some in there, yeah.
• 1:13:33
  Yeah. Yeah, it was.
• 1:13:36
  Robbie, Robbie was a hater. He's like, he's like anytime
• 1:13:39
  Indiana's on here go against them because they don't win the
• 1:13:42
  big games. So Robbie's who I'm talking
• 1:13:44
  about then? Yeah.
• 1:13:45
  So Robbie said there was pretenders last year, not saying
• 1:13:48
  they're pretenders this year. I just need to see more for me
• 1:13:51
  to put them on the on the win column, on the on the spread
• 1:13:54
  all. Right, so there it is.
• 1:13:58
  There's all our big screeners. A little short episode this week
• 1:14:02
  because I do believe in next Monday we're going to probably
• 1:14:05
  go a full 2 hours easy. 2 hours because we'll talk about the
• 1:14:11
  Georgia Tech start. Jumping on start talking about
• 1:14:13
  the coaching. It's going, it's going to go a
• 1:14:15
  little bit bad. So there's some new folks in
• 1:14:17
  here, Brian. Just tell them what will happen
• 1:14:19
  next week so they're prepared. Yeah, so next week, what we're
• 1:14:23
  going to do, we're going to have, we're going, you know,
• 1:14:25
  recap what happened with Georgia Tech.
• 1:14:27
  We'll, we'll, we'll break that down.
• 1:14:30
  And at some point in the episode, I will drop the link to
• 1:14:34
  join the stream as people, you know, click the link.
• 1:14:38
  They'll come into the the green room there and we'll try to work
• 1:14:42
  you on as, as quick as we can. Try to come in, make your .2 to
• 1:14:47
  3 minutes, something like that. Try to try to be succinct, get
• 1:14:50
  your point across, but but definitely, as Tally said
• 1:14:53
  earlier, come with come with some, some credentials, some
• 1:14:56
  backup as as far as the reasoning and and all that.
• 1:14:59
  Don't just, you know, throw names at a wall and say, all
• 1:15:02
  right, see you later. Exactly.
• 1:15:04
  All right. With that being said, Tally, we
• 1:15:07
  turn it in early tonight. Let's get some sleep, boys.
• 1:15:09
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• 1:15:13
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