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NFL DFS Week 7 Sunday Shippers | Main Slate DraftKings & FanDuel Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go.
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  Speaker 2: Clear for liftoff.
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  Speaker 3: What's up, everyone?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamboline here, a.k.a. Toe Tagging Tambo, back for another
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  Speaker 1: edition of Sunday Shippers here on the Shipping Nation YouTube station.
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  Speaker 1: Got Hoop, got Title with me as usual, going to
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  Speaker 1: be breaking down all things Week 7. I'm so happy
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  Speaker 1: to be here, Hoop. Week 7 is the week I win, right?
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  Speaker 1: Week 6, it's Week 1 through 6. We'll see what happens,
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  Speaker 1: but Week 7, always.
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  Speaker 2: A good one.
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  Speaker 1: We've got more data. We've got DVP rankings. We've got
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  Speaker 1: all the stuff up on the site that people know
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  Speaker 1: and love based on being a little bit deeper into
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  Speaker 1: the season. But 10 games, a lot to go through here. Hoop,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on, my friend? How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, solid slate. I mean, I like these sort of
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  Speaker 2: slates more as the season goes on where it's the
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  Speaker 2: 10 games and it's not 13 games. And then like
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  Speaker 2: you feel like you're missing out on some stuff like
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  Speaker 2: this is a solid number. We got a lot of data,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, for the first six weeks of the season.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a good, good slate. I mean, big prize
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  Speaker 2: pools everywhere. And this slate kind of reminds me of,
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  Speaker 2: what was it, a couple weeks ago, Lions-Cardinals game where
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  Speaker 2: everyone wants to just load up there. We have another
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  Speaker 2: one of those games and it happens to be with
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  Speaker 2: the Lions again. The Lions, my Lions, titles Packers going
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  Speaker 2: at it. Big boy total, like 55, 56. So anything
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  Speaker 2: else you do on this slate has a chance to
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  Speaker 2: be a little bit different. So I think it's definitely
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  Speaker 2: a good one. We know where a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: ownership's going. We know where a lot of even one-offs
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  Speaker 2: are going. People are going to want a piece of
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  Speaker 2: that game over everything else. So it's by far the
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  Speaker 2: best game on the slate. I mean, tons of different
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  Speaker 2: plays within that game. So it reminds me of that slate,
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  Speaker 2: I believe it was two weeks ago with the Cardinals
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  Speaker 2: and the Lions and was able to, I think we
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  Speaker 2: can take what we learned from that situation and apply
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  Speaker 2: it to this week. So excited for the slate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. It's definitely a big game that we're
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  Speaker 1: going to be talking about. It's your guys' teams, like
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  Speaker 1: you said. So we've got Packers at the lines. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get to that one. It's the second last game we'll
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  Speaker 1: be covering on the slate. There is a bit of
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  Speaker 1: late swap opportunity, late swap opportunity, as I like to
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  Speaker 1: call it, with that Rams-Raiders game being right at the
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  Speaker 1: same time there. So we'll talk about that when we
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  Speaker 1: get there. But title, my friend, I'll bring you in. Yo,
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  Speaker 1: Free Money Sunday. How you feeling, buddy?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, feeling good. Feeling good as I sound, but ready
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  Speaker 3: to make some money. Go Brewers. Yeah, I had quite
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  Speaker 3: the night yesterday, but ready to roll.
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  Speaker 4: Free money Sunday, nothing better. A lot of money to win.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, I hope it goes like it was two
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  Speaker 4: weeks ago. We had Hoop, myself, and Rio, top three,
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  Speaker 4: or I mean, we didn't really get much, but three
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  Speaker 4: in the top 20 for the Millies.
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  Speaker 3: So let's hope we can run that back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, three in the top. I think it was top 17.
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  Speaker 1: Cut those three spots off. We won't even say it.
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  Speaker 1: But the funny thing is they were posting in the
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  Speaker 1: Discord last night. Rio and Hoop are fourth and fifth.
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  Speaker 1: and you're I think 25th or 24th or something in
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  Speaker 1: the um the $ 20 milli like you're combine your top
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  Speaker 1: three week scores and you get the prize like 10
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  Speaker 1: grand for first obviously just win the million who gives
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  Speaker 1: a shit about the leaderboard but my point being you
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  Speaker 1: guys are all up there which is nice to see
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  Speaker 1: so they were showing that off last night in the
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  Speaker 1: discord were you sweating the uh the brewers game.
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  Speaker 4: Last night I watched one out I was at a
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  Speaker 4: wedding so yeah yeah I was trying to have the
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  Speaker 4: phone away and everything but I did watch the last
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  Speaker 4: out and A lot of controversy.
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  Speaker 3: It seemed like a coin flip to me. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what was right, what was wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Eventually, technology will answer that question. I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: you guys have any takes on the check swing or not.
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  Speaker 1: It's so hard to tell in those situations, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure that sooner than later on X, we will have
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  Speaker 1: a demonstration made with AI that shows us what the
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  Speaker 1: Sims say. And, you know, pick one game and there's 50,000
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  Speaker 1: simulations of it and hear this, that and the other.
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  Speaker 1: But who knows? It's at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: it's two nothing brew crew. My people here are cheering
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  Speaker 1: hoop title in Rio, potentially. They're giving away 10 grand
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  Speaker 1: grand scheme overview for this 10 game slate.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of touched on a little bit in the opening
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  Speaker 2: with the, the lions and Packers game in the afternoon window.
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  Speaker 2: We saw it a couple of weeks ago, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of pieces that people want to get a lot of
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  Speaker 2: stacks that want people want to get to. And that
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  Speaker 2: will kind of, you know, dictate the ownership and really
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  Speaker 2: roster construction of, on the slate. So I think it's
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  Speaker 2: a very important aspect. Now that, that lions Cardinals slate
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  Speaker 2: was a little bit different because I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: you guys, I'm sure you guys, I know you guys
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  Speaker 2: remember this. There was no other games anywhere close within
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  Speaker 2: like 10 points. I think it was like Packers bears
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  Speaker 2: started creeping up and that's actually, I think what you
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  Speaker 2: ended up needing. And that was the stack that Tambo
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  Speaker 2: you were on, but we do have other spots that
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  Speaker 2: are appealing from a fantasy perspective, another big game total
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  Speaker 2: in Atlanta sitting at 50 and, But the pieces that
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  Speaker 2: are a little more expensive, I'd say overall, you can
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  Speaker 2: get some of these little cheaper pieces in the Lions
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  Speaker 2: and Packers with the tight ends being cheap. We have
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  Speaker 2: some wide receivers that are a little cheaper. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it is going to dictate the entire slate, but definitely
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  Speaker 2: at quarterback. I mean, you look at the quarterback position,
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  Speaker 2: Jordan Love is going to be one of the highest
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  Speaker 2: or is going to be the highest on quarterback. Um,
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  Speaker 2: and then golf is going to get some ownership too.
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  Speaker 2: So you're looking like a lot of ownership at the
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  Speaker 2: quarterback position there, but what's the one thing we know
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  Speaker 2: about quarterback? We beat it to death. We talked about
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  Speaker 2: it every single week. Ownership always gets spread out. So
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  Speaker 2: it's not, even if you do like those guys, it's
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  Speaker 2: not to a point where it's like, man, I got
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  Speaker 2: to fade them. You know, we have love at like 18%.
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  Speaker 2: Like that's less than one fifth of the lineup. So
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  Speaker 2: it's like, you can still play love, uh, even though
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  Speaker 2: he is getting a good chunk of ownership, Jerry golf,
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  Speaker 2: much lower owned in that game, but getting ownership. So,
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  Speaker 2: quarterback it just remains undefeated where even if you think
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  Speaker 2: someone's going to get like super popular it just never
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  Speaker 2: ever happens so if you like Jordan Love on this
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  Speaker 2: slate fire away at Jordan Love so that's the one
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  Speaker 2: thing I will say but there's other quarterbacks that we
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  Speaker 2: can talk to talk about running back position to me
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  Speaker 2: it's been pretty similar like all season we have a
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  Speaker 2: couple high price guys that are in good spots and
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  Speaker 2: then a lot of like 6k ish guys that are
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  Speaker 2: pretty appealing to Same thing here today. We got Jameer Gibbs.
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  Speaker 2: We got McCaffrey. We got Bijan. Then we got guys
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  Speaker 2: like Woody Marks. We can now add Braylon Allen to
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  Speaker 2: the list of solid mid-tier running backs with Brees Hall
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  Speaker 2: being ruled out, Chuba Hubbard, Bucky Irving. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: guys we can play here. It seems like it's been
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  Speaker 2: very similar all season. A few high-priced guys, a chunk
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  Speaker 2: of guys in the 6K range that look very appealing today. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, ownership, I guess the one that probably gets
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  Speaker 2: the most is going to be McCaffrey. And that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of what we're showing as well, just because he got
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  Speaker 2: back to catching a shit ton of passes and they
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  Speaker 2: don't have any wide receivers this week, which we'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about in that game. So he's going to end up
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  Speaker 2: getting the most. And, you know, I think it's another
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  Speaker 2: situation with Jameer Gibbs, who's clearly just, I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: best running back in football. Ownership is going to come
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  Speaker 2: down on him because he's got the big boy price
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  Speaker 2: tag and there's a lot of other appealing options. So
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  Speaker 2: that's that's a very important talking point, I think, as
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  Speaker 2: we go through the show. Jameer Gibbs and what happens there.
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  Speaker 2: Wide receiver, we have some cheap options in the Tampa
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  Speaker 2: Bay situation with Ibuka being ruled out. They'll get a
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  Speaker 2: majority of the cheapish ownership. And then what's everyone going
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  Speaker 2: to want to do when they spend? They're probably going
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  Speaker 2: to want to hit up the Lions Packers. So that's
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  Speaker 2: an important talking point. Get to tight end. George Kittle
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  Speaker 2: going to be very popular with all those 49ers wide
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  Speaker 2: receivers out. And then you got Laporta and Tucker Craft
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  Speaker 2: in that Green Bay Detroit game where people are going
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  Speaker 2: to go so again like Detroit Green Bay is going
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  Speaker 2: to dictate a lot of ownership on the slate it's
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  Speaker 2: going to dictate a lot of roster construction but there
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  Speaker 2: is other spots so I think it's a it's a
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  Speaker 2: nice situation where if you like Detroit Green Bay you
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  Speaker 2: can still play it we just taught you know Jameer
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  Speaker 2: Gibbs is a perfect example of that game like when
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  Speaker 2: are we going to get Jameer Gibbs at maybe sub-20%?
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  Speaker 2: We're showing it right around 20%. When push comes to shove,
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  Speaker 2: it could be high teens. So that's a situation to attack.
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  Speaker 2: Both quarterbacks in that game getting owned, but not to
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  Speaker 2: the point where it's like, man, it's too much. I've
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  Speaker 2: got to stay away. So we've got a really good
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  Speaker 2: dynamic slate, and we'll get into it more, obviously, when
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  Speaker 2: we go game by game and find some situations to
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  Speaker 2: attack here on the slate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did listen to it all. I was reading
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  Speaker 1: your shirt at the same time. I didn't even realize
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  Speaker 1: your hoodie until now said Green Bay sucks, which is
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  Speaker 1: awesome for when we get to that game later. But
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  Speaker 1: I like how you broke it down. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I can do a better job of it. It's more
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  Speaker 1: the last part to me of what you said. And
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  Speaker 1: we'll get to that, especially because the first game title
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  Speaker 1: that we're going to get into with you is 49ers
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  Speaker 1: and Falcons. But a lot of what's going on in the,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Ted Hurst stuff when we get to
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  Speaker 1: it in the third game, the George Kittle stuff, the McCaffrey,
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff dictates the lineups that just fit Green Bay, Detroit.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know how people are going to be
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  Speaker 1: playing it, but I think there's going to be some
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  Speaker 1: spots where whether you like it or not, if some
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  Speaker 1: things bust. in the early morning, you kind of know
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  Speaker 1: where everybody is going. If someone has Ted Hurst, it's
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  Speaker 1: very common for them to have a Jameer Gibbs or
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  Speaker 1: that game stack or something around that, that gets in
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  Speaker 1: there versus on its own. So I think it's just
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  Speaker 1: going to be a fun one to break down, but
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  Speaker 1: I'll start with you title. We'll, we'll get right to it.
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  Speaker 3: 49ers.
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  Speaker 1: At the Falcons. We know about CMC's ownership. We know
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  Speaker 1: about George Kittle's ownership, no Mike Evans, no Debo, et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: But the more interesting thing to me is that Bijan
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  Speaker 1: broke everyone's hearts last week and they're all just ready
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  Speaker 1: to go right back at 8,500 bucks at home against
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  Speaker 1: the 49ers, et cetera, et cetera. But give us your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts here on this first game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it shows that pricing is relatively tight on DraftKings.
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  Speaker 4: Like the Gibbs, like that savings you get from Bijan
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  Speaker 4: to Gibbs is hitting optimals and going to raise ownership
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  Speaker 4: quite a bit. I'm hoping that people in Moonwalks back
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  Speaker 4: a little bit because people get scared and there are
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  Speaker 4: so many options. I'm going to go right back to them.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, last week, the game flow was just so bad.
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  Speaker 4: And obviously they came back. The final score won't show it,
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  Speaker 4: but the bears jumped out to such a big lead.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they almost threw in the towel and then
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  Speaker 4: Drake London and stuff out, but they didn't have Bijan
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  Speaker 4: for the drive. And then they had to just throw
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  Speaker 4: the ball and it just was the worst script for him.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, they're implied for 24 points. It's
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  Speaker 4: a two point spread at home. So I'm going right
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  Speaker 4: back to Bijan. He's still one of the most talented
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  Speaker 4: in the game. He can catch a lot of dump offs.
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  Speaker 4: I think in this matchup McCaffrey, nothing bad to say
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  Speaker 4: about him. And kind of like Hoops said, these guys
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  Speaker 4: are getting ownership, but ownership's relatively spread out, I guess,
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  Speaker 4: in the sense of no one's shown to be above 50%.
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  Speaker 3: Ownership or anything on the slate like that.
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  Speaker 4: So McCaffrey, like a little under 40, I can get
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  Speaker 4: 45 or 50% McCaffrey.
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  Speaker 3: They're just so beat up at the skill position.
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  Speaker 4: That's why George Kittle and McCaffrey, the whole offense, is
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  Speaker 4: going to run through them, and they're implied for 27 points.
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  Speaker 4: So it's chalky, but McCaffrey, Bijon, Kittle, I do prefer
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  Speaker 4: using them in at least like two, at least two
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  Speaker 4: of them in non Jordan love or Detroit stuff. Cause
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  Speaker 4: once you plug in Jordan, love to Matthew golden, then
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  Speaker 4: McCaffrey and Kittle, you're just going down the same path.
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  Speaker 4: So it's good chalk, but I would be conscious on
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  Speaker 4: how you use them with the rest of your lineup.
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  Speaker 4: If you're doing a lower own stack, a quarterback and
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  Speaker 4: all that.
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  Speaker 3: Sure. George Kittle looks great.
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  Speaker 4: And I do like to tight on lineups quite a
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  Speaker 4: bit this week due to the tighter pricing and And
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  Speaker 4: that's the one position like wide receiver. When you're dumpster diving,
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  Speaker 4: they do not match up at all compared to those
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  Speaker 4: tight ends that you're looking at in the three K range.
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  Speaker 3: Just throw the route person parts. It, participation man.
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  Speaker 4: Like I said I definitely am still drunk a little
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  Speaker 4: bit but definitely I didn't even realize hoop shirt until
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  Speaker 4: you said that so yeah not fully locked in but
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  Speaker 4: DFS I'll figure it out two tight end lineups I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna play a good amount of kiddo Bijan and McCaffrey
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  Speaker 4: I'm definitely going right back to it and then yeah
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  Speaker 4: because I'm doing that both quarterbacks are definitely gonna be
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  Speaker 4: in my pool at low ownership as well and you
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  Speaker 4: definitely can and I almost want to pair McCaffrey and
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  Speaker 4: Dijon with the quarterbacks, since they do have a lot
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  Speaker 4: of pass catching ability and Dijon too, like a screen
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  Speaker 4: can go 60 yards. Pennix didn't even have to really
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  Speaker 4: do anything. So yeah, I liked this game quite a
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  Speaker 4: bit to kick it off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Lots of good stuff. I think the last part,
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  Speaker 1: particularly interesting. Some of my morning stuff today, just the
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  Speaker 1: last run waiting. I was waiting on the Brees Hall
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  Speaker 1: and the Puka news. We got it a little bit early.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to it later, but just to note it,
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  Speaker 1: that it sounds like Brees Hall is unlikely to play.
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  Speaker 1: So that talks about, you know, who mentioned earlier with
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: Braylon Allen, another guy that comes into play that also
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: can pull away from some of these other upper tier
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: running backs, just to be clear as well, because, you know,
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: that was in, you know, before we have Woody Marks,
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: who we'll get to later, but now with the Braylon
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: Allen thing being a potential piece there. That's something. And
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: then obviously Puka likely to go now. Again, not sure
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: what that means for if it's a big Puka day,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: but it obviously affects some of the other things on
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: this slate. Brings another stud at $ 8, 400. Again, we'll get
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: to that later on. But the stuff I was going
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: to say, Hoop, this morning that I was running was
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: going to a little bit of this, you know, Penix, London, Pitts,
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: with using... Like, how can we use the chalkiest guys
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: on the 49ers in a different way? And to me,
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: that's part of it. So I'm not... I'm advocating that
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: everybody should do it, but I'm thinking about from a
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: game theory perspective and on this slate and how I'm
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: handling it. I do think there is some interest here.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Like Drake London is not really getting any ownership at 7,500.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: He might get 10 to 12 to 13, whatever he
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: ends up at, but it's not much. So if people
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: are playing Bijan and they want that stuff on the
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: other side, I also think who just give me your
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: take on this. We could see the first 49ers letdown
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: of the season here. It's look, we know why the
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: guys are chalky because they're just banged up everywhere, but
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: The total still looks good for them on the road,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: but I don't know. It's an interesting spread to me.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: What do you think?
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't hate that call. I mean, 49ers just
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: rolling right now. Falcons been up and down and coming
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: off an ass kicking. I know the score last week
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: indicates it was a close game. It was not a
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: close game. Like they're down by Falcons are down by
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: three touches, but they're down by like 24 in that
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: game against the bears. So they're coming off what I
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: would consider an ass kicking. So it does seem like
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: the typical NFL game, sort of a letdown spot, West
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Coast going to East Coast, one team rolling, one team
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: coming off, the home team coming off a loss where
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: they got beat up pretty good. So I could see
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: it in terms of DFS. Like, the individual plays here
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: are great. Like, McCaffrey, phenomenal. I mean, they have nobody,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: and we saw it last week. Like, you know, the
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: number of carries we were spot on with in that
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: showdown game. Like, they're not going to give them a
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: ton of carries, but with these guys out, they have
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: to give them– a ton of looks in the passing game.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: So he's just a phenomenal play at that price tag.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: George Kittle with everyone out. Phenomenal play. B. John Robinson.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: And the one thing that you kind of talked about
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: is how even coming off a bust, like people are
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: willing to go back to these running. I think it's
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: just the top running backs in the NFL. Like in
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: everyone's eyes, it doesn't matter like what they did the
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: week before. They're so good. Bijan, one play, 70 yards.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: So they get the free pass for sure. And I
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: would say rightfully so. I think these guys are so elite.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: So he's a great play. Drake London's a great play.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: And I don't know. I love them all individually. I'm
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: going to play a ton of them. But I just,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know. There's no way to really get different
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: if you're playing these guys. These are the four best
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: individual plays in the game. The only thing I will
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: say is only way I'm looking at playing this, not differently,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: but just playing it in a way with some lower
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: ownership is Brock Purdy. Like continues just to always come
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: in at like 5% owned. And it's probably the case today.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: We're showing seven. He's been the best quarterback in the NFL.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: They're projected to score 26. I want to be overweight
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: on Brock Purdy today.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I like this too. I'm never the betting guy. You
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: guys know this, but the anytime touchdown for London, today.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I really liked that one. I think this is the
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: spot right here. So, um, you know, that's good. The
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: one thing I'll say a couple of just ways that
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: you guys covered it. I mean, this is a great spot.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Like you said, for these San Francisco guys, particularly, I
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: think a couple of ways to get different. One is
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: if you also want to slice and dice the Bijan ownership,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: if you're going to play Bijan and no San Francisco guy,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I think you just get away with playing. If you're
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: hoping for that letdown spot, play the Falcons D with
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Bijan at 2,200 bucks. If you're not on those San
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Francisco guys makes a ton of sense to me. From
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: that perspective, again, certain type of lineup that you're in,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: but just think about it when you're out there building.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: And then on the other side, I guess I'm still
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: getting some Christian Kirk and or Jordan Watkins, not both,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: but when I'm not playing the other guys there, those
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: are like Jordan Watkins is a hundred bucks more than
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: tez johnson 300 bucks more than hurst later on doesn't
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: project near it but it's really only like two to
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: three points off i know it matters but it's not
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: that crazy to think about if you're building a lineup
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: like something with let's say brock bowers at the tight
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: end and you're not playing george kittle you're kind of
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: thinking about okay if brock bowers is going to crush
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: george kittle who's going to get the san francisco stuff
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: could just be cmc and i know people have that
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: too i'm just noting you're kind of spending similar money
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: in those spots all right this is a game where
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: the total dropped massive based on, you know, where it
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: opened at, at least, uh, I think it opened at
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: 52 and a half. It's down to 46 and a
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: half now title going to the Bengals Ravens. No Lamar
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: was the big news here, but we still have AFC
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: North battle. It's in Baltimore, still a tighter spread. You
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: got Burrow, you got Chase, you got Higgins, you got
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Zay Flowers, Jacoby Lane, Eric Henry. There's still some names
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: in this. And I don't know if this guy's crazy
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: or not, but Jacoby Lane, I mean, I think he's
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: crazy based on my team fandom, but Jacoby Lane said
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: there's not much difference going from Lamar to Huntley. Like
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: he said it in a way, he meant it. Like
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: the offense doesn't change that much. We just got to
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: go out and do our job, but it came across
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: like they're equals. I don't think that's the case, but
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: go ahead and take this game away.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: That's what I'd want to be saying in my locker
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: room as a receiver with Lamar going to be coming back.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: And trying to get the ball. Yeah, I mean, the
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: total drop.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: It's night and day with Lamar and Huntley in the
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: sense of the pace of play and just how the
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: Ravens want to play. They want to take the arrow
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: to the football, give it to Derrick Henry, limit possessions,
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: and that's not good for DFS. So not a game
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: I like much really at all. I'm not even going
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: to really waste too much time. I'll say T. Higgins,
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: probably my favorite's. If you want the cornerback receiver matchups,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Humphrey follows Jamar Chase. You get the discount from Higgins.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Good price for Higgins on FanDuel as well. But yeah,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: I don't like this game really.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: I would like to stack it up if I'm doing
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: it though, Hoop, I think. I'm kind of like where
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: title's at, but if I'm doing it, it's a unique
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: build on this slate. If you go like Joe Burrow,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Chase- Zay or Joe Burrow, Chase Higgins lane, or something
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: like that, or Andrews going up against Cincy. I mean,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: we've seen that too, but I think if I want
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: to get a $ 8, 100 Jamar chase to the house, I
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's a Jamar chase day. If that's the case,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: he's had some big games against the Ravens in the past.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I do worry a little bit about the pace to
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: titles point getting Huntley in there versus getting Lamar in there.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: But that's where I also think hoop, you just got
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: to If you're going that route, like I am, you've
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: got to build accordingly because I want the guys that
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: are going to speed it up. So it's like I
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: want Burrow, Chase, Jacoby Lane. Let's see Jacoby Lane get open.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: He had four targets off IR last week from Huntley
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: as well. So let's see if we get something like that,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: and that's what would open it up. We'll talk about
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: that more when we get to the Green Bay-Detroit game
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: later as well. But what's your thoughts here on the Bengals-Ravens?
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Just wish. Lamar was playing, it would make the game,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I guess the slate even so much more exciting, I think,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: just because now we have another game where we know
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: we'd have two low on quarterbacks. Like Lamar would have
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: been low on Joe Burrow is going to be low on,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: and you just have such higher potential to drag Cincinnati
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: into that offensive battle mode a little bit more, you know,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: one big shot to Zay flowers and he scores. And then,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: you know, Joe Burrow to chase on the other side,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I just with, with Lamar not playing, I just don't
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: see much of that going on in this game. And
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the total obviously dropping indicates that as well. You know,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I think at this point, Derek Henry's great, but I
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: think he feeds off of Lamar Jackson. Like he had
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: what 17 carries for like 50 some yards last week.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Seven carry 17 carries for 58 yards. You know, Cleveland's
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: run defense is pretty good. It just sucks all the
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: excitement and fun out of this game. and it was
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: going to be low-owned with Lamar, and it's still going
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: to be low-owned. I don't think the ownership overall changes much,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I guess, in this game, but the only thing that
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: did change is the total drop, if that makes sense
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: to you guys. These guys all would have been similarly owned,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: besides Zay Flowers. If Lamar Jackson's in, Zay Flowers' ownership
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: is going up, but everyone else is going to have
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: similar ownership. The only thing that changed is the total drop,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: so we're just losing potential points here. I'm definitely going
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: to have some Jamar Chase, some T. Higgins, And I'm
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: with you. Like, I think, you know, I probably want
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I want a game stack if I'm playing this one.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: If I am playing Burrow, I want, you know, Zay
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Flowers on the other side. Maybe they do find a
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: way to push him a little bit. So I want
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: some Burrow for sure. I mean, he's got two of
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: the best weapons in the NFL and Chase and Higgins.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Ownership on Joe Burrow has to be, man, you know,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: we got it at like three, four percent. And he's
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: got it right. Yeah, that's accurate. So it's like he
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: gets to throw the ball to Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: And you look at this slate, like that's probably the
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: best one-two punch on the slate. And the quarterback's coming
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: in low. So I want some of this side. It's like,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: but it would just have to be Zay Flowers, I think,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: on the other side. I will have some Derrick Henry, though, too.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I'm going to include him in my 150. It's very low-owned.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're talking, again, probably less than 5%. No,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I guess no. We're showing like seven or eight. So
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: either way, like three touchdowns is still in play for
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Derek Henry, but it's going to be, I think much
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: harder for him to get there with Lamar out. So
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: not super excited about this one, but when I can
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: get burrow at no ownership and he gets to throw
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: the ball to chase and Higgins, I'll be in on
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: some of that for one 50.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my final thing I'll say here, and we'll move
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: on to the Bucks at Panthers, and I'll stay with you, Hoop,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: in a second, just to note it, is that when
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: you have... Look, a game like this has opportunity to
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: speed up. When you have Chase, when you have Higgins,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: when you have Zay Flowers, Derek Henry, Jacoby Lane, we're
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: not putting these lineups out... in saying we know what's
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: going to happen. That's what, you know, we've always talked
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: about this at Ship and Nation, you know, picks and
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: plays versus the process. Obviously, we're very process-oriented, process-focused. It's
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: you're building for the what if, right? Like the other
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: thing too, this thing dropped to about 47 points. That's
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: still one of the highest totals on this slate, like
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day. So, you know, it
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: could have been a hell of a lot better for sure.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Would we want Lamar in? Yes. But there is a
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: way this thing speeds up and goes back and forth
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: and you get one of those division battles that aren't,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: the slog or the slug fest or whatever you want
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: to call it back and forth. You actually get one
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: that it just speeds up quick. And then we get
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: that back and forth and just have some fun. It's
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: not like either of these teams have shown phenomenal defenses
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: yet to start the season. It's not the Ravens of old.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: The Bengals definitely don't have a good one. We get
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson revenge too, by the way, I forgot about
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: that today too. I don't know if he actually believes
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: there's any revenge there, but just to note it. So Anyway,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting one for, you know, the
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: what if on this slate, but play it accordingly, play
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: it for it actually getting there and speeding up. That's
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the main focus. So Hoop, I'll go to you. Bucks
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: at the Panthers. Talk about a one-two punch. I know
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: we're going to talk a ton about Hurst and Tez
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Johnson and Godwin. Nobody there on the other side with
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Igbuka out. Not sure who to go to, you know,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: from options. But I think a lot of people this
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: week think the one-two punch is Bryce Young, Tet and
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Coker because been pretty condensed over there as well. What's
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on this game?
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's my favorite game. When you take
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: everything into consideration, it's my favorite game on the slate
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: for multiple reasons. I guess with Ibuka out, it opens
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: up a ton of opportunities at the wide receiver position.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: You have three now potential cheap guys, and some are
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: getting more ownership than others. I mean, Ted Hurst is
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: going to get a lot, but man, you got Godwin, Hurst, Johnson,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: three cheap wide receiver options. And then basically a full
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: punt at tight end in Kate Otten as well. So
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the reason I like this so much is I can
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: load up on this game and then I can get
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: whatever I want, anything I want. I can get some
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Jamar Chase. We talked about it in that last game.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: You can get some Jamar Chase. You can get some
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Derrick Henry if you want. You can load up on
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Atlanta Sam Fran. You can load up on Detroit Green Bay.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: So I love this. all over the place. There's just
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: so many, the reason I like it so much, there's
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: so many different ways to play it and it's all
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: super affordable. So you've got all these cheap guys on
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay side, right? Baker Mayfield had been terrible
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: even prior to the injury, but no one's going to
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: play him today. People are going to play his pass
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: catchers for sure. People are going to play all those
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: wide receivers and Otten, but no one's going to play
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Baker I'm going to keep them in my 150. I
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: think this game just has a chance to go off.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: In on the Tampa Bay passing stuff, Baker's an uncomfortable click,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: but again, I'm playing 150 lineups. I will get some
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: just because I'm playing all these pass catchers, and then
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: you have a running back in Bucky Irving that is
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: in play too, so love that. The Panther side, less
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: owned outside of Coker. Coker's going to get ownership. Specifically,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: FanDuly's really cheap, but You nailed it, man. Like, it's
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: now a condensed offense. Like, when have we said that
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: about the Panthers? We got two wide receivers in Ted
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: McMillan and Coker. And then, you know, Hubbard's been the
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: main dude, and he's looked very good. Slight favorites at home.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: And you can throw Bryce Young in the mix at,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: you know, he's going to get some. We're showing eight
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: or nine, sub-10%. Like, man, you can overstack this. You
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: can single stack it. You can run it back. can
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: play this game in so many different ways, but every
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: single way you play it is cheap and you can
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: get exposure to anything else that you want on the slate.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: So that's my favorite part about this. Even if you
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: go the most expensive route in this game, the most
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: expensive route in this game is Bryce young to Ted McMillan.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: And that's not even all that expensive. And you, and
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: if you do run it back, you're immediately going to
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: get a cheap guy on the other side to run
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: it back with. So no matter how you play this game,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: You can get exposure to the studs on the slate.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: You can correlate it if you want. You can play
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: this single stack with one run back and then just
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: load the wagon Detroit Green Bay if you want. So
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I like a lot of this game. I think it's
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: the best game on the slate.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I think it's definitely one to target. Good call out there.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And like you said, even if you go like Bryce Young, Tett, Coker,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Irving and spend the most money on both sides and
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: skip the cheap wide receivers, you still have tons of
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: money left over and things that you can do. This, Avery,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I think was a valuable comment because it's so true, right?
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Hoop said it himself. Obviously, they didn't even look good
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: when they had Baker and Igbuka, really. But again, this
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: goes back to my previous comment from the game before.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: We're building for the what if today. And I think
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Sean said it best. I bet you everybody out there
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: is getting this right now when they're building their pools out.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: You're getting a lot of Hurst and Otten and Godwin
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: and maybe Tez, whatever. But you're like, where's Baker in those? Well,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: first off, it's probably more in your Bryce Young stacks
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: because you're more likely to get like Bryce, Tet, Coker,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and then Ted Hurst or something where you're getting them
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: as one-offs. or two of them together as like a
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: block because they're cheaper, right? The combo pack I always
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: talk about. But I think title, if you go to
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: this game and stack it up, just, you know, Baker, Godwin, Hurst, Coker, oh,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: and now I can fit the best running backs. I'd
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: be thinking about the tournament that you're playing with that
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: angle of attack. I'd want to like do at least
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: something a little bit different because yes, then you can
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: just fit all the top running backs on the slate. It's,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: it's a miniature version to me of like showdown when
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: everyone's like, we'll put the cheap captain up top and
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I can get everyone. It's not about being duped. You're
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: probably not going to be duped or you, you know,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: you'll be one or two off, but you're just boxing
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: yourself into a very, I.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Think, let me, let me just, let me just touch
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: on that point. Cause I think it's important. I think
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: the logic on that is correct, but it's the other side.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Like if you go Bryce Young, Jalen Coker, and just
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Ted Hurst, right? Because he's probably going to be popular
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: on that side. That's where you need to start being
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: careful with what you do with the rest of your lineup,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: because it is going to look very similar to, and
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: that's like the highest owned pieces in the game. So
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: The Baker side, I wouldn't be as worried about, but
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: definitely the Bryce Young to Coker side, I'd be a
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: little worried about how you build the rest.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: That exact one you said is definitely high-owned. Like if
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: you went with just Bryce, Tet, Coker, Ted Hurst, and
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: then filled in the rest of the pieces, definitely the
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: same idea. But I'm saying when people are going– Baker, Hurst,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Otten with Coker, and then they can fit CMC, Gibbs.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: They're just getting the same big boy running backs in there.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I'd be still looking to try and do something a
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: little more balanced with some of these guys. I also think, Title,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: that just playing Bucky and the Bucks D could be
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: a way to go today as well. Just something like
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: that where you're just getting different there and he's a
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: little bit more than Woody Marks and Allen, but you
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: can also play them together. You could play them in
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: that type of setup where you can over-stack some more
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: expensive wide receivers and build differently overall. But what's your
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: thoughts here on this game? A lot of options here.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have too hot of a take, too
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: much different from you guys.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: It's getting ownership. Play it intelligently, like you're saying.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Once you start plugging in Otten, Ted Hurst, Bryce Young, Coker,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: then they probably want to get away from some of
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: the McCaffreys of the world or George Kittle, like we
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: talked about, some of the Packers stuff, because it's getting
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: a lot of ownership. I mean, I'd be lying if
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: I wasn't nervous. How about, yeah, Baker has looked terrible. Buccaneers,
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: 20% own of multiple of these guys. But it comes
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: down to, especially wide receivers, terrible. You get a lot
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: of value when you play these guys to be able
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: to spend up for the studs on the slate. So
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: roster construction-wise, it works. And there's not too much opportunity cost.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: So that's why Godwin Hurst would be my favorites. A
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: little over Kate Otten because of that bad wide receiver position.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: My favorite play in this game. No surprise if you've
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: been watching. It's the Coke man. Jalen Coker is a
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: complete stud. I'm going to keep rolling with them. Like
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: Coop said, too cheap on FanDuel. I still think he's
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: too cheap on DraftKings. But I think Tet for half
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: the ownership definitely makes sense. So I'm going to Bryce
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Young stuff. And then Bucky separated the most he has
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: all year last week from Gainwell, 85% of snaps. If
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: you just play Bucky in this game or Bucky's Buccaneers defense,
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: like you said, then you're not playing Ted Hurst or
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Kate Otten or Godwin.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: You can leverage a lot of stuff. If they do,
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: just get it done. on the ground.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: The problem is like that Hurst could still go like
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: four for 45 and that 8.5 points is enough. Mainly
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: probably in smaller field stuff, not Millie stuff, but yeah,
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: he's just so cheap and makes a lot of work.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: So no hot take in this game.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The Bucky squared could be good. I like that
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: call too. And you said the way you said it,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: shout out to man, be Mitch poker. That's a, you know, August, 2025,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: the one K main event in your own Scottsdale, half
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: a Millie shipper. Congrats to him. Welcome in.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: That's the scorch man.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's crushing it, man. Love to see it. Appreciate
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: you being here with us on this Sunday morning. Let's
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: keep it moving, Tidal. I'm going to stay with you.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: We've got the Giants at the Texans coming up next.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: We talked off the top. I know you did the
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: cash game countdown this week. You got Woody Marks, $ 5, 600
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: on DraftKings, like nobody behind him. I think, you know,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: the matchup solid at home, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: But go ahead here. Take us away with this one.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Texans at home versus the Giants.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you hit it.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Woody Marks, 5,600, big home favorite, minus 120 to score,
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: not much competition. It's, yeah, I'm loading up Woody Marks.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: But again, I keep, like, we're talking about some of
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: the chalky plays, and that's why the individual roster construction
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: means a lot more. I think Nico Collins is also
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: a very elite play, and I'm definitely playing him with C.J.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Stroud.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: You can play all three of them, too, if you
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: want to put Woody Marks in there. But how does
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Woody Marks fail today?
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Probably... C.J.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Stroud's getting it done through the air, big plays, and
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Woody Marks isn't getting the touchdowns.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: So I also love Texan defense. It was very good
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: for J.J. McCarthy. I was cheering for him last week,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: and I still am cheering for him.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: Never want to root against people, especially he's had terrible
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: success to start his career. But I have not forgot
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: which McCarthy I've seen in the past, so I am
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: loading up. on the Texans defense for sure. And then, yeah,
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, Malik neighbors, Isaiah likely no one wants to
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: play him at all. Cause they're implied for 16 and
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: a half points. I mean, they're just going to get peppered.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: And like I said, McCarthy actually looks solid. He gave
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: likely a chance neighbors is just getting peppered. So I
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: love to see that ownership on guys that have absolutely dominated.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: It's very condensed on that side as well. So yeah,
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: at ownership really only Woody marks is getting some. And
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: I think this is a, one of the sneaky games
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: that I'm going to be in a 27 and a
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: half points.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Texans aren't applied for. That's a lot of points.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we love it. Stroud, Nico Collins. Also, I know
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: they got a bunch of other stuff like tank tails
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: coming back. They picked up Marv Harrison, whatever. But I
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: liked our guy Rio in the value report this week.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Hebrew cheetah. He put in there with Jalen Knoll. And
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: he said, you can't put it. Can't put that back
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: in the box when you got that, man. I don't
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: care what else is going on out there. Not like
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: anybody else has been doing much besides Nico. So I
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: like that. You can run a trip. You can run the,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: you know, the double with Stroud Collins. noel you can
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: also use neighbors on the run back uh alex and
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: i talked about it yesterday hoop you could also run
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: something like stroud collins neighbors but still play likely and
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: then just you know it hope that there's enough going
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: on in that game to be able to make it
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: work still like a unconventional stack that way but what's
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: your thoughts here on this game.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Hoop uh i mean obviously the main talking point here
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: is uh woody marks i think phenomenal play on the
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: slate uh David Montgomery sucks, cheeks, whatever you want to say.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Like that's the one signing. It's the one, yeah, buns. Yeah,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: buns will go with what the kids say. It's the
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: one signing and everyone like got so excited about, you know,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: David Montgomery going to the Texans and he went super
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: high in best ball drafts. Title knows this. And I'm
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: just like sitting back. It's like, have fun with that.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Like he's not good. And now he already got injured.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Like Woody Marks is the better running back. And now his,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: you know, pathway to a massive workload is huge. phenomenal
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: play at home favored by a ton but I kind
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: of like what title threw out there is like CJ
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Stroud Nico Collins and Woody Marks just give me what
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: could be this entire offense like let's say they go
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: out and score 35 and it's you know two to
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Nico and then you know Woody Marks gets two on
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: the ground I think that's very possible and there's runbacks
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: on the other side bleak neighbors Isaiah Likely like everyone's
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: stroking JJ McCarthy because he threw what 200 and some
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: yards in the floor like if you're an NFL backup quarterback,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: like what an ideal scenario, you're down a shit ton,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: just come in the game and just chuck it, just
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: come in and chuck it. And that's what he did.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: And any backup quarterback in the NFL could come in
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: and do that. And he did it. And, you know,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like to me, it doesn't really change
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: anything for this offense. Neighbors in on likely in on
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: definitely a lot of Woody Marks, but I kind of
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: like what, what title said there, if you're going to
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: hand build this one, like give me Stroud, Nico and
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Woody Marks. pick neighbors and likely on the other side.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: I hope there's a little, you know, pushback from the Giants,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: which we saw last week. They're willing to continue to
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: throw it all the way through and keep their guys
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: out there. So I'm in on this one. Woody Marks,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: a premier play on the slate.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mind this either. Avery said it like
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I prefer Nico in it to the way title said
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: to build it. But I'm just saying the guy does
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: have like four or five receivers that he could throw
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: to today. So if you go with with that, he's.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Really good, by the way, to imagine like he was
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: his exit from the playoffs last year is probably one
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: of the worst quarterback performances of all time. And, you know,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: kudos to him for coming back. He's looked solid to
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: start the year.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, for sure. I was going to say, Jordan,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: welcome to the show, my friend. We posted that in
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: the Discord this morning when it came out. He's like
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: just waking up. But you got Stroud, Woody Marks. The
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: other thing, too, a lot of talk about the J.J.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: McCarthy 243 yards or whatever it was in the fourth quarter. Um,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: you know, there's, it goes two ways here. I was
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: going to say, you know, from yesterday, what I talked
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: about was like, first of all, he might not need
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: to do that. He's, I mean, he's unlikely to do
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: that as everybody knows, but also he could be likely
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: to use Isaiah and get it to neighbors and still
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: have enough yards. And then you use somebody like marks
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: on the run back. But alternatively, you kind of want
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: the guy who's just throwing the ball enough that you
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: can pick up 243 yards in a quarter when you've
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: got the Texans DST down there and be able just
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: to pick that off. There's going to be so many opportunities.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: That's the thing, too. It's not really like I get
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: what people say, like it's a backup, but he was
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: probably always they got him to bring him in so
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: that they're going to want to use them. But they're
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: going to let him do whatever and let him chuck
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: it around. They're going to want to see what what
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: he's got and continue that way. So there could be
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities for the Texans. D today, people
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: know it. They're landing there and they're going there, but
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: it's it's honestly, um, kind of like hoop always talks
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: about with, with quarterback ownership, these a little more and
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: a little bit higher, like the Titans that, but even
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: this week, there's the Titans, the jets, the Browns, the dolphins,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: the Texans. So it is still going to be a
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: little bit spread out there, or if you want to
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: take a stand on a D, uh, I prefer the
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: pay up one when a lot of people are paying down.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I like the Texans in this spot. All right, title.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I'll go back to you next game here. Vikings at
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: home versus the Colts.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much a pass.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: I will say, though, Kyler or always Justin Jefferson and
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: then Kyler's 5400 skinny stack. It's very low owned. Eventually,
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Kyler's maybe going to get it done with his legs.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: When I do play him, I want to take a
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: shot because he hasn't been great. But when I play him,
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: I want him to be low-owned. I want Jefferson to
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: be low-owned, and then I can jam chalk around it. So, yeah, Jefferson, Kyler.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: If I need a run back, probably Keenan Allen at 4,800.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: He got peppered last week. Yeah, like JT, I just
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: really can't do it at six and that point. Dogs,
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: very low-owned for sure, but the opportunity cost at running back,
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: you can't miss when you're spending up.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: So not for me. Jefferson, Kyler, just Jefferson, Keenan Allen. Yeah,
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: I don't love this game, though.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Hoop, I'll kick it over to you here. The Jefferson
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: stuff is at least interesting. Sub 10 and probably, you know,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Moonwalks back even further, I think, at 7,300. But Kyler's 54.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: He's 73.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: It's what?
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Is it the exact? Let's see. 300. Very close, right?
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Obviously a Stroud, Nico Collins lineup could be a Kyler
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Jefferson lineup. So thinking about it from that perspective, but
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I think we like neighbors a lot more. And Danny Dimes,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Danny Dollas was not to be for us last week.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: That was bad.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: No, that was bad. Just Jefferson for me in this one, really.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Maybe I get some Kyler in my 150, but. With
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: the Colts, I mean, such a brutal spot. I mean,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: just getting their ass kicked this season, just lost to
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: the Titans, and you have to go on the road
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: and play probably the best defense in the NFL, and
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: they're talking about trading their players already. It's just such
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: a bad situation. I think the Vikings absolutely destroy the
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Colts here, but I just don't love the fantasy pieces.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: So I'll have some Jefferson because... Kyler will just chuck
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: it up to him. I mean, really, the only success
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: they've had this year, it was like he was triple
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: covered in the end zone. And Kyler said, yeah, fuck it.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I'll just chuck it up to him. And Jefferson's so good.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: He just came down with it. So just him and
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: maybe a little Kyler in 150, but no interest in
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: the Colts. But the cheap pieces, I guess I should say,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: I don't mind the Keenan thing. And then maybe these
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: cheap tight ends just to throw in because double tight
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: end is pretty valuable today.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Are you talking about Will Mallory over there?
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Mallory, yeah.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: I'm fine with some Mallory. I mean, those guys can
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: goose egg and you can still win a shit ton
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: of money.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I like even when you're talking about Kyler and playing him,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: you're still calling him little Kyler. I'll just take a
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: little Kyler.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: I forget.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Remind us, is Kyler tall and do you like.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Him as a quarterback?
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: The people are wondering. So now someone said right here,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: who confirmed Ross, who confirmed not Kyler's biggest fan.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: It sucks for them. They have probably the best defense,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: but at some point Kyler's going to have to do
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: something down the road here in the playoffs. And he's
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: just not capable.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: They said they're getting him a booster chair out on
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: the field so he can roll up and get it
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: up over the top. This is title's nickname, Sully. He
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: came up with this a while ago. And I think
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: last week he was close to this statement. It was
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: like maybe a little bit different, but he said he's
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: like less than a penny last week. He had the
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: call right, but we didn't, I at least did not
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: put it together enough with the Titans defense on the
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: other side. You can do it this week though, a
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: hundred bucks more than those Texans at much less ownership.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: I would say probably if you are paying up, is
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: the Vikings D but title, um, anything else to add
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: on the Danny Penny stuff? I know you already talked
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: about Tyler Jefferson, et cetera, but the Danny Penny's nickname
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: is yours.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I got, it's one thing I got
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: right last week, but so much I get wrong. I
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: can't victory lap that. So no, nothing.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Buns.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Take us into the next one. Then we got dolphins, uh,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: on the road going into play in the New York jets.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: What do you got with this one?
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Braylon Allen stuff, like Jordan just woke up
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: and mentioned, his ownership's going to be roughly around 20%. But,
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard to argue a guy that really
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: doesn't come off the field as four-and-a-half-point favorites at home.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: It's another cheap guy in the similar range of Woody Marks.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: I think Garrett Wilson, that only makes him a better
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: play because you're getting more leverage off of Braylon Allen.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: And when he fails, it's probably because of Garrett Wilson.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: So have a decent bit of interest there, both defenses
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: for sure. At the end of the day, it's the
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: Jets and the Dolphins. So I can get to both
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: defenses for cheap, man. Outside of that, it's like with
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: Caleb Douglas and stuff returning. I don't know how much
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Malik Washington, maybe if you want to take a shot
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: on Caleb Douglas, he is a little more expensive than
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: the Buccaneers stuff, but a lot of hype in the
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: preseason had a good week one.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: It's kind of tough, though, coming off injury.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: I'm just trying to make an ownership case for these guys,
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: and I'm going to apply it for 17 points. I
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: think Braylon Allen's good, but he's going to be owned.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: Pairing him with the Jets' defense makes a lot of sense.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: If you don't play either of them, I think Dolphins'
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: defense makes some sense for very cheap, and then Garrett
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: Wilson's the one sub-10% is good leverage off of Braylon
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: Allen and can get peppered in the spot.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Garrett Wilson one is interesting because obviously it's
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: going to be now a really solid leverage option on
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: that team when Braylon Allen picks up steam as we
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: get closer to lock. So don't think anyone was on Wilson.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Don't think many can get to him. And now it
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: would actually make sense to do so if that's the case. Also,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: like you said, like they're not some crazy team total or,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: you know, expectations, but he can catch eight to 10
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: balls and it can rack up and who knows what
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: that looks like. So I think that one's actually really interesting. Uh,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: both these are definitely in play, but I think the
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: one on the other side is also flipping the game
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: script here is going to, uh, Ollie Gordon with the
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: dolphins D and especially on FanDuel. There's a stone minimum
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: on FanDuel 3k. Ollie Gordon's only 6k over there, which
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: is less than the $ 6, 300, or maybe he's even more
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: of their Braylon. I don't know. He's 6,300 on FanDuel.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: But anyway, just for the general thought process here, Ollie
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Gordon with Wilson, secondary stack, any of that stuff. Other
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: than that, I don't have much interest at all. Hoop,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: what do you got with this one?
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Braylon Allen, Garrett Wilson, Jets D, and that's it. I
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: think Garrett Wilson's a phenomenal play at, what, probably 5%.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: You can do whatever the hell you want against the Dolphins.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: And Braylon Allen– he had the one good game, but
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: it was like a, it was a 20 yard touchdown
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: at the end of the game. Like this dude just
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: jams it in there and gets stuffed constantly. So maybe
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: they do have to start passing it a little bit.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: And I think Garrett Wilson is an elite play on
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: the slate at like 5%. But yeah, that's it. Man.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I was trying to see what did he end up doing?
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Who did he play? Man. Didn't they just play? Didn't
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: he play Gonzalez? Wasn't it the Jets?
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: The Jets played the Patriots, yeah.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what did he do against him? I forget.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Who, Garrett Wilson?
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: I don't think he did too much.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, their offense didn't really do shit. He did, yeah,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: six targets, four for 44. So that's it.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, four for 44. It wasn't much against them. But
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: why I was thinking of that was because obviously, you know,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: coming out of that and now, like you said, the
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: line you said that I liked was they're going against Miami.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want. So it's like that's
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the other thing I'm thinking about here. And now that
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: it actually comes to fruition of– it being a leverage
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: option on this slate with hall unlikely Allen's ownership going
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: to steam up at 5,900. It's a little bit more money,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: 600 bucks more, but it's at the wide receiver position.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: So you can move it over.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: One other thing. I don't know. Do you guys in,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: in one 50 or a Millie maker type stuff, like
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: any interest in like now looking at this with Gino,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: he's got his full arsenal of weapons. I mean, which
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: is a little crazy to say, but he's got Garrett
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Wilson that a Mark Cooper dude looked really good last week.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: He's the one that had the big game. Adonai Mitchell
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: is in as well. Sadiq's in there. He's got everyone. Like,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe for 150, not the worst idea.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Remember Amari Cooper?
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Now we've got Omar Cooper.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Omar Cooper.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Omar Cooper. Who's going to have the better injury title?
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: He had a massive game last week. Cooper did, like,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: he went bonkers.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: He zapped, yeah.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, Amari Cooper was a DFS god at some point.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: He had slates where if you didn't have him, you
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: were not winning money. I just keep.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Remembering CSU Ram used to be posting average Amari after
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: he'd make, like, the biggest catches or something because he
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: loved him and people kept making fun of him saying
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: he sucks or he's average. And then he kept posting
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: that every time. It was funny.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Now that I'm thinking about this, I got to get
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: some Gino because like Braylon Allen's got definitely going to
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: get some ownership, but cheap running back. He's not foolproof.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Like he can fully bust. They're playing the dolphins. Like, yeah,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: I'm going to play some Gino stuff now.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: So Gino Garrett Wilson, who do you prefer? Go to
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: the Cooper guy or with Mitchell? What are you thinking now?
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean that Cooper looked really good. I don't know. Like, yeah,
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: any of that. And then just don't run it back
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: and hope, they do all the damage and Braylon Allen
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: doesn't do shit, which is very possible.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Gosh, we'll see.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that one title.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: You, I doubt I get there. I, his G knows
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: my Kyler Murray, I guess, but I mean, Kyler's 2%
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: versus 6%. So I guess you can't really compare as much,
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: but I, it's hard to click Gino, but if there
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: was ever a matchup to do it when your favorite
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: at home and Braylon Allen's getting ownership. So I get
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: it that way. I just, well, just playing Garrett Wilson's
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: enough for me to leverage it.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Just go Gino, Gino Garrett.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: And then you don't got to mess with all that
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: other stuff. And then it's cheap.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: That's probably what I would do if I did.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: Because like guessing on the Cooper, they're going to be
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: just so, so low owned. Like even if they have
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: great games, like we talk about all the time, you
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: don't need to be perfect.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: Like just.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: Him carrying or getting three touchdowns, even if it's one
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: to Cooper, one to Mitchell, but Garrett has the bigger day.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: No one's going to play Gino stuff anyway. So probably
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: not for me, but I don't hate it.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Who knows about Gino Smith and Millie makers.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: So yeah.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: He'll never go broke playing Geno Smith hoops.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: He can't.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Anything else here, title, that we missed? If not, you
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: can take us into the Browns Titans.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, but is this the Budkins Day, Hoopster? Is
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: this the Budkins Day?
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Is that a real question? That's one of those rhetorical questions,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: I hope, right? If there was a spot, let me see.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: But is another guy back now, too?
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, this ain't, this ain't the spot.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like just the conception owns Cardinal Tate's
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: kind of the dead range at wide receiver. Like they're
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: getting a little bit of ownership, but I do think
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: people are just going to go to the buck stuff or,
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: or spend up a little more. So yeah, wide receiver
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: ones on their team take out there at the end,
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: not necessarily, I guess at the end, but he had
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: a big game last week.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: I think both are fine.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: Titans defense is going to get some ownership. My favorite
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: way to play it is with Tony Pollard.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: If they, to have success and get turnovers, get good
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: field position, good game script.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: I think that is what Tony Pollard needs. And yeah, 5,300
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: is a really, really cheap price tag. So yeah, I'm
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: actually more interested in this game than I probably feel
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: comfortable with, but it's the individual Concepcion, Tate, Pollard, Titans defense.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: And I don't hate going Browns defense as well. Too
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: bad team just going to the lower own side. So yeah, actually,
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: I guess a little bit of interest. Curious what your
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: guys take on it.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got the Discord rivalry hoop from last week.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: It was the battle of Deshaun Watson or Cam Ward stacks,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: and now they play against each other. So I talked
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: about it yesterday with Leverage Lane and Blickle and I
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: went back and forth on it, but I prefer the
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Watson side. You know, you got Boston, Concepcion. I know
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: they've got Jerry Judy, but it's kind of been those two.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: He's picking up catches. They have Fannin, et cetera. I
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: know you could stack it differently, but if I'm doing it,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I like it just Watson, Boston, Concepcion, Tate, or Wandale,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I guess. But Tate is the guy that, Like Tate-Boston,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: even a secondary or Concepcion-Tate or something like that. You
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: could do that. Tate is boom bust, but he's been
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: a good boom when he gets his stuff. So I
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: like that angle of it here. Hoop, are you doing
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: anything with this game besides the defenses?
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just some individual defenses. Yeah, some individual. I will
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: be careful about the Titans. It looks like they're going
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: to be very popular on both. Don't be careful. I'm
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: just saying they're going to be highly owned on both sites,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: FanDuel and DraftKings. Fine with some Pollard. Tate, actually, he's
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: my favorite part of this game. Cam Ward is buns,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: but he knows to throw the ball to his best
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: wide receiver, and he's been doing that. Concepcion, I'm fine
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: with on the other side. It's just fillers, just shit
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: to throw in my lineup kind of stuff. Not overly
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: excited about any of it.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: We didn't get the Spears news yet, did we, for
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: behind Pollard today? Not that it's like crazy important. I'm
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: just curious. Title, did you see anything?
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: No, I don't. I did not see anything. And I
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: just looked and.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I still have not seen anything.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, Tony, man, like when's the last time we've
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: needed Tony Pollard? Like now I'm looking at this.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: He's 5,300.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: I know he's getting ownership, but like when has he
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: ever been on a winner? Has he ever been on
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: a DFS winner? Like that's the thing I think.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I think last year we got him once or twice,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: at least on FanDuel.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Where he just jammed touchdowns or something like that.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: But to Tidal's point, if everyone's playing the Titans, I
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: like either mixing it with Pollard and then skipping over
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: these receivers in the back and forth, or I like
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: stacking the Browns and going against them that way.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: He is even cheaper, though, on FanDuel. He's like $ 5, 000.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: I think on FanDuel, too.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: And with no Brees, that has to lower Pollard's ownership
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: a bit because Braylon becomes more popular. Woody Marks is
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: right there. He separated the most from Spears last week. Like,
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: Pollard didn't play over 55% of snaps first six– or
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: five games.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: 76-24 last week. Plus 130 to score.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: So painful. It just seems like just the most blah
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: play of all time. Like, what– I struggle with that.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: It's like, you got to think about the rest of
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: the slate. Obviously I like the call, but it's at
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's, there's a lot of
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: other ways that can go. And you only, you only
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: have to play two running backs, right? A lot of
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: people are playing three, but it's a big too tight
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: end week on draft Kings on fan duel. Typically people
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: play for those touchdowns. So it is more three running
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: back lineups, but there's plenty of running backs in that
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: pool of where your three come from that could outdo Pollard.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: So you do have to really kind of like him and, and,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Somebody said it, Adam A. Teal said Pollard higher owned. Yeah,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: he almost, almost all the Titans are higher owned on FanDuel.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: And there's our resident FanDuel guy, Hamwich said, imagine clicking
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: on Tony Pollard's name. But people like Robinson, they like Tate,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: they like Pollard, they love the Titans D. And that
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Titans D boosts them as well.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to booze Tony Pollard. Thanks, Ham.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: He might be the new Buckins. What's the name that
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: goes with Pollard that we can make fun of? I
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: What's worse than talking about this much about tony pollard
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: is having to hear this a thousand times today i'm
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: i'm i might go with titles idea and just nap
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: through some of it and come back so i don't
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: have to listen to this shit all day like i
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: don't care it's so annoying and just got to hear
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: it after every single catch and play and oh man
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: uh man by the way side note because we're getting
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: to the afternoon games anyway we're there But there's going
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: to be a lot more. There probably already is. But
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot more Manning casts and stuff.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Some of these commentaries are just painful. And people don't
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: want to listen to them anymore.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: They say the same shit over and over. It's literally
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: the exact same stuff they say over and over. It's like,
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: let me have a line and just replace player A
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: with player B and say the same thing. And it's
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: just like the entire.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: There was somebody a couple weeks ago that posted it,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: and they said you'll never hear it. Maybe it's Collinsworth. Yeah,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: they said, like, you'll never listen to him again the same.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: And he just kept saying that everyone, to your point,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: he just replaced it.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Wasn't it Troy Aikman, I think?
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: Was it Aikman?
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Aikman.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: He kept saying, like, this is one of the most
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: phenomenal things you'll see in the league, or they're one
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: of the best at this you'll see in the league. Like,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: everyone's the best at everything, every time he says it.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: It's like, come on. no no tapes no trash no
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: nothing you got to talk some shit on there man
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: i don't care and then that's.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Why too stiff like they gotta like call out these
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: coaches when they make poor uh like call out the
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: like you gotta you gotta make it more entertaining it's
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: just it's too stiff Yeah.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: Well, that's why like the best is Brady. Not from,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's the best commentator. We're not getting
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: into that, but I'm saying the guy that doesn't give
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: a shit because what are they going to do? First
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: of all, fire his ass. He's got so much going on.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: It doesn't even matter. So when he says like piss
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: missile or shit on camera and they're like, oh my God.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: And other people are like, well, I couldn't say that
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: because I'd lose my job. It's like, that's how anybody
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: watching football talks. Like I don't care.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Just play to the.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: People, man. It's so brutal. But anyway, I digress. We've
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: got three afternoon games, Hoop. I'm going to start it
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: off with you. The one that's going completely overlooked and
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: probably for good reason, outside of a little bit of
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: chatter I'm hearing on Bo Nix, but it's the Broncos
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: at the Cardinals. There's not really anybody on McBride this week.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: You know, we're not talking about Michael Wilson. Maybe title
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: will be when we get there, but we're not talking
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: about him. No Brissette. No. I mean, people with Bo Nix,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: they're just talking about it. It's like Trevor Lawrence in
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: week one, which he ended up to have a good game,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: but no one could figure out how to stack it
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: or felt comfortable doing it. You know, you got Waddle.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: You know, you got Sutton. You know, you got Franklin.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Like there's guys there, but I don't know. What are
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: you doing with this one?
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, same thing with the Broncos all last
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: year and this year. It's like just tough to play it.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: And it's just so blah, such a blah offense. Nothing
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: has happened. They probably win this game and they have
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: multiple running backs. They'll still mix in all these random
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: pass catchers, but they're winning games, but doing nothing exciting offensively. And,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't think the Cardinals are going to
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: offer much pushback or anything to keep them going. I mean,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: they beat the Rams last week, but what was it?
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Six field goals. Like they never got in the end
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: zone and Denver's defense is good. Off this one. I mean,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: the only path I see to playing this one is
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: you need to make a pivot from the afternoon and
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: you want to get on something that no one else
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: is on. And still, I don't even know if I
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: like it. I just find like random pieces and Detroit
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Green Bay or the Rams Raiders, I think overcoming here.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: So no interest at all. I don't care.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: I think late swap is how I get there to
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: your point. Nailed it. Because, you know, if there is that,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: you know, Cardinals let down off a Superbowl esque win
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: for them of beating the Rams. And now back at home,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: you know, you got Broncos right there. It's not like
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: they're going far. Like you, you got a chance here
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: inside fast track, et cetera, maybe, but I don't know, title. What,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: what are you thinking here? I am hearing a little bit,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: like I said, a little bit of chatter on the
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: bone next stuff. What do you think?
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: It's because he's 5K, and then he has the clear
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: guy and waddles 5-5, like buying the dip, like people
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: like to say. Unfortunately, sometimes it keeps dipping. It doesn't work. But, man,
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: that price is really low, and you just skinny it.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: You know where to go, and the ownership's really not
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: getting there as well. So, yeah, I just naturally, I guess,
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: going to plug my nose and play some of that.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: And then the runbacks, you can go Bourne. You can
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: go Michael Wilson. To be honest, though, probably my favorite
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: route to go is– not run anything back because this
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: defense is legit, but.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah 5k bow 55.
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: Waddle if we if we do that week one people
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: would be going crazy so we'll.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: See Yeah, Bo Nix, Waddle, Randy Moss Jr., Michael Wilson.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Get them in there and see what happens and hope
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: for the best. I'm sure there's some math experts out
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: there that could just quickly tell you what that converts to.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Like if you have, I don't know, like Goff, Jamo,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: and craft or something. Maybe it can convert to Bo Nix,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Waddle and Wilson using the flex box. People are playing
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: double tight end and stuff. I'm sure there's something like that.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: I guess the one thing I didn't hear from either
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: you much was like bam night, $ 4, 100. Any, any thoughts
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: there title? I know with Algier and et cetera, but what,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: what are you thinking?
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, for me, like he is really, really cheap,
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: but I guess, cause I like Pollard a lot more
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: than you guys. I like Woody marks. I like Braylon Allen.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: And I, To be honest, I think I'd rather just
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: play some tight ends in that range. So I do
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: not like picking on this Denver defense, probably a negative
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: game script.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: It's a no for me, but yeah, I'm curious to
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: hear your guys' take.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: I've got nothing else with that one. Like I said,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: it's just really tricky based on everything else on the slate,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: on both sites. I get that he's 4,100 on DraftKings,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: but even then, do we need it? I don't know. Well,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: I guess I'll find out the hard way probably if
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: it happens because That's the main thing, but there's still
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: other stuff going on. And just again, late swap stuff
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: getting here for sure. Remember that this game starts earlier,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: 20 minutes sooner than the last two games, everybody. So just,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: if you're looking at your late swaps, look about a
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: half hour in advance, see where you stand. And then,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: you know, start with the highest dollar lineups, make some
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: decisions from there. and, and go down the board, but, uh,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: I'm going to save it like I did last week
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: hoop because, uh, it's the biggest game on the slate.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to go to you first on Rams
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: at the Raiders, unless you had anything else to add
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: on the Broncos cards.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: No, no, sir. Um, I think one of the most
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: interesting pieces of the slate is the, the Puka stuff. Uh,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: you know, no Devante Adams, uh, for long period of time,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: which is unfortunate and, Very unfortunate for my best ball
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: teams because I have a lot of Devonta Adams. That
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: hurts a little bit. But in regards to the slits,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: no Devonta Adams. The first assumption is Puka is going
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: to be a million percent owned. Everyone's going to be
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: on him. And not the case because of this questionable tag.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: But sounds like he's good to go. I think he's
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: good to go. And I had no reason not to
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: believe it. And the guy just had a game. where
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: he got like 45 targets. It was insane. What was it?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: It was a very, obviously not 45, but 24.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: 24 targets.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. 24 targets. You'd assume he's coming in at massive
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: ownership today, but you know, we have it at 12
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: and that's kind of the industry standard. So this guy
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: has the upside for like 15 to 20 catches in
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: this game. They need to win. Like God, very disappointing
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: start to the season. Like this is a very important
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: game for them. And the other wide receivers are Mumfield, Whittingham, Whittington,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: a plethora of tight ends. Like, I just have to
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: be way overweight on Puka. I think he's a phenomenal,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: phenomenal play on the slate. Kyron Williams, a solid play.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: And then on The Raiders side, Trey Tucker's coming off
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: the big game. You always have Brock Bowers. They're not
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: as interested. I don't think I'm going to play any Gentee,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: to be honest with you. But to me, this is
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: all about Puka. And if that number stays true, which
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: I think it will, because everyone's going to want to
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: load up on Packers wide receivers and Lions wide receivers,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Puka just has to be one of the best plays
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: on the slate.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Title, I'm going to get your takes on this game,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: but real quick, I just have a late swap thought.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: It's close. I did the rough math in my head.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm not the expert, just trying to
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: whip it together quickly. But if you could go, again,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: it's all just, I think this one's easy because it
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: depends on what your stuff does in the morning. But
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: if you were just thinking out loud here, would you
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: go Love, Watson, Kraft, and Amun-Ra? So Love, Watson, Kraft, Amun-Ra,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: really good stack with a nice run back. Or Cousins, Tucker, Bowers, Kyron?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: You know the answer definitely the packers all.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Right we'll get to that game soon take us take
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: us into your thoughts on this one with the puka
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: spot i think if i'm going with puka obviously late
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: swap spots but i think what the ones i'm starting
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: with will mostly be with um puka in stafford builds
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: i actually want to play for the big game but
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: we'll see what uh what happens from there give us
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on this one.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah i mean stafford four percent we have stafford i'd
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think Stafford to Puka is an elite play,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: and then you can add in Tyler Higby and Kobe
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: Parkinson at tight end. Again, they run a lot of 12,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: 13 personnel. No Terrence Ferguson. Higby, someone asked in chat,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: was it Sully? Yeah, I prefer Higby. He out-snapped him.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: Seems to be the preferred target right now, but still
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: a small sample. I think both of them are very
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: much in play. Stafford doubles. And then if I'm not
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: going to Puka or the pass catchers, I do think
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: Kyron at 7K is in a good spot. Like, he
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: was complaining last week to the press about like not
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: being out there. So can't get in game for all that.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: He's still out snap quorum 72 to 28, which was.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Wider than his comments.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: So he cut you off, but squeaky wheel or it's like,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I remember I told you I had quorum. He didn't
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: play after six minutes in the third and they're trying
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: to win the game. So they put Kyron back out there,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: but yeah, he was then after the game to play,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: like you need me out there.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: He was out there way more than I thought. When
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: I saw that comments, then I looked, I was like, huh,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: that's pretty interesting. But, Yeah, so the Rams are supposed
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: to score 26 points. That's the same as the Packers,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: pretty much the same as the Texans, and these guys
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: are not getting ownership.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: So Kyron, when I'm not playing the.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: Puka and Stafford and all that, but I think Stafford, Puka, Higby,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: Parkinson are elite, elite plays.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: Don't need a run back. You can't play Brock Bowers.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: It's obviously expensive.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: If you do so, I'm going to keep playing a
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: little Michael Mayer and bumping him. He's better with Brock
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: Bowers on the field. Like Brock Bowers, he requires so
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: much attention. that just go out to the flat block
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: and release just little routes. And he's really good. He
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: got paid for a reason. So don't hate him at
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: tight end. No one's going to, no one's.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: Going to play.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: And it is the last official slate before Halloween. The
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: next one is a week after. So you get the
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Michael Meyer in there. Now, Avery mentioned it. If you're
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: not playing any Rams and just cause there's stone minimum
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: on draft Kings, I actually am. I do have Raiders
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: in the pool. I saw it this morning, like a, not,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say a lot, but it's a healthy share
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: of like, it's, it's in there for sure. Cause if
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: you're not on that stuff, but also in a portfolio,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: I got that in some lineups, but then I got
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Ram stacks in other lineups. So it's kind of like
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: putting you in that position where you can do what
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: I always call portfolio manipulation, right? You're manipulating your portfolio
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: to cover, angles, knowing that some of it's going down,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: hoping that some of it is going up. But if
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: you think Cousins, Tucker, Bowers, you were waiting actually on
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Mike Washington Jr. News. Gent, he was getting the touches
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: again last week. It looked like he was going to
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: have a good game. It didn't turn out to be
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: a great game. But if you think who that they
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: can keep in this game at all and get that
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: back and forth, it's kind of the similar thing. Or
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: if we, if you think Arizona can flop because they
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: got the win against the Rams last week and not
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: come through and, you know, now this week's a bad
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: week for them. You could see the Rams bounce back here.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: This is a pretty big total on the road. And
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: so I think like just stacking it up from that perspective,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: I still do like, you know, Stafford, Puka, Higby, one of,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: you know, Bowers, Gentee. If you're going the other side,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: I like Cousins, Tucker, Bowers, one of, you know, put
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Kyron in there. Even with Puka back, I think Kyron
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: was still, you know, when there was before, I forget
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: who it was, I think it was Adams the first time,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: but he was still getting some catches, right? Because, you know,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: they're lacking receivers. Now they have Puka back, but just
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: of note. And then Mumfield is the same price as Tez,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: 200 bucks more than Hurst. When you look at the
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: cheap guys, From earlier, I think that's more in stacks,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: the way I would want that. Anything else from what
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: we talked about there, Hoop, that you want to talk about?
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: If not, we got the premier game that we saved
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: for the last, Lions at home versus the Packers.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really good spot for the Rams. And,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: you know, we talked about them just to tidy this
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: one up, like we talked about making the afternoon pivot.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Like if you're looking to, to make some moves and
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: talk about the Denver stuff, just go to the ramps,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: like in any, any capacity. Like if you have to
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: get off like green Bay, it just seems it has
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: to be just really, really good spot. They need to
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: win play the complete ass. That game just seems so
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: weird against the Cardinals. Like I don't know. I'm not
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: a full on conspiracy person, but that just, that just
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: reeked of something bizarre. I think they, bounce back in
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: a big way. But yeah, so you got the Packers-Lions.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Sorry, one last thing, because I don't want to cut
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: you off, but before we go to the last game,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: this is the most important one. I wanted to add
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: one more thing about that. There is actually, to your point,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: there's actually some... spots i would think to still hold
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: on obviously if you have chalk that's dead in the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: morning but i'm saying if you have a lineup that
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: gets there in the morning and you're like oh man
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: i love this lineup should i switch from the rams
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: to the packers i would still be thinking about what
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: you actually like because if i got the morning stuff
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: and i still have stafford puka higby and something else
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: like i i might be willing just to hold the
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: ground i think it's a really good spot here and.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Like what do you guys just what do you guys
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: just said it's like there's they're projected to score very
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: similarly to the Packers and the lions in terms of
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: total points on the slate.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Go ahead. And it's a more consent can consolidate an
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: offense too. Like the Packers, there can be random shit
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: that pack pops up. Same as the lions. You have
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs in the mix on the Packers, like with
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: the Rams, assuming Kuka's healthy, you know, it's mostly Kyron
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: Kuka and two tight ends that will do all the damage.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: Most likely.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry. Go ahead with the Lions game. Take us
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: into this one, preview it, break it down from your perspective.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: But we talked earlier, a big thing about this game
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: is there's actually tons of ways you can go and
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: then you just said it again. Like there's options here
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: that you can roll out and ways to build differently
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: within this game. We'll talk more about it, but give
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: us your first run at it.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, looking at it on the Packers side,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: I think that the Packers side gets more ownership. Well, okay.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: Let me, let me phrase it like this, not necessarily
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: more ownership. They're getting more ownership than they normally get
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: right in a neutral sort of situation. Follow me on this.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Cause it might not make a ton of sense, but
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: in my head, I'm trying to lay it out. Like,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: the Packers owned ownership is much higher than it normally is.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: The Lions offense always gets this sort of ownership that
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: they're getting. Amonra is always 15 to 20%. Goff is always,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: you know, for the most part, five to 10%. Jameer
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Gibbs is actually getting less ownership than he normally gets.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: Sam Laporta, more ownership than he normally gets. You go
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: to the Packers side, everybody on this offense is getting
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: more ownership than they normally get. Jordan Love, highest owned
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: quarterback getting more than he normally does. Christian Watson getting
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: more ownership than he normally does. Definitely an age boy,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Matthew Golden getting more ownership and the same with Tucker Kraft.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: So I guess when I look at this, I prefer
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: the lion's side for that reason, because nothing's really changing
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: in terms of where they're typically at on these slates.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: They're getting ownership like they normally get in a neutral
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: sort of, sort of spot. So like, love you know
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: probably 15 to 20 percent golf eight nine ten percent
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: so i love going to the lion's side over the
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: packer side as my primary stack i want run backs
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: obviously but you have way you have so many more
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: different ways to do it on the lion's side um
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: you have obviously golf you can go to amandra laporta
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: and then jameson williams just has to be a phenomenal
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: play on the slate like Nobody is really on him.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: I think it could even come down to the ownership
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: a little bit. Like, he's the forgotten guy on this
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: Lions side. And, you know, I think they're going to
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: continue to feed him with these big shots. It hasn't
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: fully worked out. He did have the big game a
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: couple weeks ago. They're going to want him as involved
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: as possible. So I love Jamison Williams. And then we
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: already talked about it with Jameer Gibbs. Like, the way
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: this slate is kind of shaping up, At $ 9, 800 for
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: a running back, you have Christian McCaffrey, $ 2, 000 cheaper. You
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: have Bijan, $ 1, 500 cheaper. Jameer Gibbs at, I'm guessing now,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: after we talk through all this, like upper teens, has
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: to be a phenomenal play. You can play him with
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: Goff if you want. Just say, give me Goff and Gibbs,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: and maybe that's the path to the entire offense. So
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: love this entire line side. I like it more. than
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: the Packers side because of ownership and where the ownership
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: is normally at with these guys. But, you know, still
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: playing a lot of love. Christian Watson, Golden, and Tucker Kraft.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: You can do the over stack. You can do it
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: in a lot of different ways. The one way this
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: game fully fucks everyone is the guy coming back from
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: suspension that you can't play really. it's going to be
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs. If Josh Jacobs comes in here and has
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: a big game, there's going to be a lot of
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: pissed off DFS players because you can't really play him.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: He sounds like he's going to get his full workload.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: The comment just came out where he's going to get
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: normal starting back, running back role. So Josh Jacobs has
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: a big game. There's going to be a lot of
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: pissed off people in the afternoon slate. Can't really play him. But,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: you know, back to the overall point of this game,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: it's really good. I prefer the line side though.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was 47 minutes ago. It said, expect to
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: get normal allotment of reps for starting running back in
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: week seven. Don't always trust the news. We've talked about
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: it a bunch. It's part of it. But when I'm building,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: I'm building accordingly. I will be playing Josh Jacobs here.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: I think it's a way if you're not on this
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: game in the afternoon, it's like Hoop said, how does
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: it bust? That's definitely a way that it can bust.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: I also think the late swap stuff is going to
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: bring Gibbs down now. Like yesterday, I was saying he
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: might be a little bit higher, but now with Puka in,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: and if people need to move things around in the afternoon,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: I think if we end up seeing high teens to
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: his point, that wouldn't surprise me. He's probably, I think
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: he's a little over 20 right now. And then if
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: things change up and they will, then he probably comes
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: down a little bit in the Puka news and all
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: that stuff too. But the big thing for me, title.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: And Braylon Allen, just to throw that in the mix
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: to the Braylon Allen news, it's, it will definitely bring
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: it down because you go from, nobody playing a Jets
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: running back to probably 20% of the field. And we
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: have double tight ends in play this week, which is
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: going to limit three, you know, running back lineups, which
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: will bring overall ownership at the position down as well.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: Agree on all that. I should know this is important.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: We could have mentioned off the top, but everyone was saying,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Jacob's not on FanDuel. Jacob's not on FanDuel. They did Adam.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: He's 6,800 on FanDuel. So don't forget that. I want
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: to make sure we point it out for you guys,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: but title, my big thing I was going to point
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: out here and who mentioned earlier. So JMO, uh, is
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: 200 bucks less than Golden, who might be the highest
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: owned guy in this game, actually, when it's all said
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: and done from an ownership perspective, 200 bucks less. And
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: he's the guy that would actually speed it up. He's
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: the guy that would get this game flying back and forth.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: So I love the Goff stack. I talked about yesterday
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: on Leverage Lane. You can go Goff, Amonrod, Jamo, and Laporta.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: and then pick your guy on the other side. I
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: still think Golden's ownership– again, I hate a high-owned wide
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: receiver on his own, but I get in the game stacks.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: He can also speed it up as much as Watson can.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: I think that was another thing last week. Wasn't it
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: on the Island game?
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: Did we have a– Sunday night against the Cowboys, Golden
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: and Watson couldn't catch.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they both couldn't catch, but it's like, it's like
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: people always just assume like Watson's the guy that's the,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: you know, the get open guy. Golden is getting open, man.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: Very open. And he dropped like two touchdowns and had
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: one already. So it's like, he could add more, but it's,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: it's fine. I get that's where the ownership is coming from,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: but how many people are choosing between him or Williams
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: or how many people are putting them together in that
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: setup and skipping over the Gibbs and the crafts and
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: the other guys that are popular in this game. So
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: how are you thinking about this one when you're building it?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I want a lot of exposure to it,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: and the nice thing is there's a plethora of options.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: It's Kraft, Laporta, Amonra, Golden, Gibbs, J-Mo. Like, there's so many.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: I'm on the Packers side more for the sense of
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: I think it's more condensed because I think it's really Golden, Watson,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: and then as the deep threats, and then Tucker Kraft.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: The one guy that no one has mentioned yet that's
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: one of my favorite plays on the slate at ownership
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: is Savion Williams.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to cut in, but I was like,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: hang on, I'll just let you know. I'll let Title
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: take that one.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been my boy.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: He's an absolute monster in college, and they just haven't
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: unleashed him. And he played over 50% of snaps, two
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: design rushes. They can get him the ball in a
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: lot of different ways. But the main thing on this
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: whole slate, A, you're getting exposure to a game that
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: you want. It's a very high total at very low ownership.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: And it's right by the buck stuff. The Kate Ottens,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: the Ted Hurst, all of that. It's just a clear
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: pivot at a fourth of the ownership or whatever it is.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: I think Savion is a very good play. I guess
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: I'm a little worried with Jacobs coming back in the
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: sense of like, did Savion just play so much because
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: they couldn't run the football at all and they needed.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: And now that Jacobs is back, are they going to
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: pound it more? And is it going to slow down
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: a bit?
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: But when he's showing hardly any ownership at this price tag,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: I'll definitely take a shot at it. Savion's he's definitely
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: my guy. So yeah, I think this game is elite.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: Like everyone does. I prefer the Packers side, but yeah,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: Savion's the guy at ownership.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: And then Gibbs, too.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, if he is 20%, I just– he's plus–
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: what is he? Minus 400 to score, and I think
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: he's like plus 140. Let me get the exact number.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: Minus 400?
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, plus 140 to score two touchdowns. I mean, Gibbs
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: is just– he's a cheat code out there. So, yeah,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: it's– I want to manually bump Gibbs. Like, when you
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: click Bijan and you click McCaffrey, it feels nice. But
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: the security, it doesn't feel– like, McCaffrey back in the
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: day is now what Gibbs is now, it feels like. Like,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: we've seen these other ones bust. The price tag, I'm glad, yeah,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: it's getting up there a little bit. I still think
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: it's too cheap. The nature of the slate, though, that's
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: kind of where Savion comes in for savings, too.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: So, yeah.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: Man, if, if Jacobs is getting normal workload and even
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: getting some catches and stuff like that, that's going to
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: be pretty crazy. So again, build accordingly, but it's really
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: hard to stomach. I know for a lot of people
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: out there that are thinking like, we'd have to go
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: back to this and what's he even going to get
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: and all this, you just, you don't know. But if
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: you're not building for that game stack, that's definitely a
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: way to still account for it. well, you know, taking
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: care of business on your, the rest of your roster.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: I also think it's crazy to go back to that
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: Gibbs conversation. Quick hoop is like you mentioned earlier, the
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: green Bay or sorry, the Detroit Arizona game. And then
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: somebody mentioned too, with no Lamar on this slate, it
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: kind of did put us back into that territory because
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: that would have been the other game that had the
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: 55 or 54 point total, whatever it started at. Maybe
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: it's better. You know, again, it went down because of Lamar,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: but maybe there's more talk about it. People bet it,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: whatever they think it's going to happen. So, everybody that week,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: I remember wanted Gibbs and they could play Gibbs and
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: McBride really easily. And it's like dynamics, but it's not
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: like we don't have cheap wide receivers. We named a
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: ton of them on here. It's not, we have cheap
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: running backs, Braylon Allen and Woody Marks and all this stuff.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: So you could get, but it doesn't feel like as
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: many people want to play golf and craft and it's
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: way cheaper. Craft is what? 3000, like 2000 and change
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: less than McBride was on that slate, different slates, but
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: price points for price points. It's, Still a lot less
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: than that. And you could just play that as a
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: way to get a hold of that game as well,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: I think. And doesn't seem like it's super high on
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: more people are on the stacks and the passing.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: Games yeah i fully agree with you on all that
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: i just have one other thought on the uh josh
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: jacobs thing like if you are if you are on
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: other stuff today, let's say you're, you know, you're not
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: really loving the, this Packers line, not loving it, but
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: you like something better and you're building teams that doesn't
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: include a lot of Packers lions.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs becomes a really good play in those lineups
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: because you're going to need lions Packers to, to bust.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: So it's probably more if you're hand-building teams and looking
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: for correlation, but yeah, just talking through it with you guys,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: the way that this game goes South in a hurry,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: not South, but doesn't fully get there is via Jacobs
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: or via Jameer Gibbs, right? Where Jameer Gibbs just gets
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: everything for the Lions. So, you know, in lineups that does,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: does not have a ton of Packers Lions, like to me,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: Jacobs and Gibbs are even more appealing. Obviously it's easier
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: to play Jacobs because of the price. But yeah, that's
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: just one other thought that I had. And then, yeah,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: the Savion Williams, I mean, he's, free on both sites
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: so it's that scenario where even if he does bust
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: you're still alive to to do well and he's 4k
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: on fan duel which you never see like a 4k
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: playable wide receiver for the most part uh makes roster
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: construction much easier over there and it won't be highly
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: owned either i mean people still aren't aren't going to
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: go down there and play him a ton.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask you too. Somebody had a
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: good one here. Our guy neighbors, Steven neighbors. What's a,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: what's Detroit talk radio saying on any, anything over there?
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: I'm sure.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They're stroking it for sure. But it's like, to me,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: it doesn't really change much. Like you got, you got
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: to do something and there's still like 10 other guys.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, like people think, I don't know
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: what the overall perception is, but you know, they look
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: better against the Cardinals. That's the freaking Cardinals, man. This
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: is the Packers. It's much, much different. So, Show me
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: today that your secondary is decent, and then I'll believe it.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: But for now, I'm under the assumption that this secondary
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: is still buns.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Gibbs Lions DST is the other side. It's a
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: more expensive version of the Jacobs Packers. But if you
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: wanted to go that route, you'd again be going against,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: to Hoop's point, a very popular Jordan Love, a very popular...
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: watson a golden etc etc so i don't know there's
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: some interesting lineups out there just to think about but
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: in that same vein like if you're going um you
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: know gibbs and lions d to go up against a
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: popular jordan love and golden and watson and craft you
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: could also put a watson boston tate in that lineup
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: from earlier going up against a very popular titans defense
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: right down there and then you're doing the same thing
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: inverted with the ability to afford it and build around it.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: So anything like that that you can do, I'm always
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: thinking about things like that, especially in smaller fields. It's
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: you're just comboing it up to leverage multiple ways, but
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: it's in a intelligent way, if you will. That's the
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: way I'm thinking about it for this one. So, Tidal,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: any other stuff to add? Anything else you want to
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: talk about here?
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: Two people asked about Jacobs and Gibbs together in the
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: same lineup. Yeah, I just looked at SaberSim. If you
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: click on their names, our partner Optimizer over here, they
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: do show Correlation. um it's negative 0.02 which is very
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: minuscule gibbs is just so elite in such home run
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: upside where i think you can totally do that um
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: because gibbs is not just your traditional running back so
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: if you're on jacobs i wouldn't be worried not to
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: play gibbs with them uh one there was one other
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: oh yeah hoops the guy to ask this question that
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: he's gonna say over stacks definitely in play.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's certainly, it's definitely in play. I mean, it's
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: got a 56 total. You know, how do you go
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: about doing it? For me, it would be the golf
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: side of things. It would be more like, you know, golf,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: Jamison Williams, for sure. You'd probably have to avoid the
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: Gibbs because it gets too expensive if you include Gibbs.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: So it'd probably be like golf, Jamison, and then.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: Fabian's free. That's a way to help.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: Fabian's free on the other side.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: So you'd play him. And then, yeah, I'd say like
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: I do golf with two or three and then two
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: or three Packers on the other side and hope this
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: game just goes nuclear. And the nice thing about overstacks
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: with the Packers, like they are taking absolute shots down
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: the field. So like, I mean, it's like perfect. Like
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: you need the quick scoring. They are taking absolute shots
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: down the field. And then on the Lions side, Tambo
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: brought up a good point earlier with Jamison Williams. That's
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: another way to get this game moving quickly, a shot
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: to Jamison. So I definitely would want to include Jamison
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: in any game stack and then Savion Williams and then
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: one or two of Watson and Golden because this game
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: could speed up in an absolute hurry. It could because
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: you have nonstop shots from the Packers all season. They've
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: seen how you beat the Lions. You beat the Lions
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: with those shots down the field. Their secondary is complete trash.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: And then the Lions with Jamison Williams.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: There's athletes all over the field. All over the field.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: Both coaches are going to keep their foot down.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: They always say it's hard to see these games bust
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: and then they somehow find out. But, man, I– It's
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: really hard for me to see this game fully busted.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: That's the thing about this game. We talk about it
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: so much, but it's important. People are like, oh, but
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: everyone's going to be on it. Okay, here's one. We
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: just talked through it, and I love this now. Let
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: me explain one to you. Jordan Love, Christian Watson. Sav Williams.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: Cause I want them in the stack and now I
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: don't need no cheap loser that, you know, some one
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: off from another game. I'm not saying they're losers, but like,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: I don't want to play them that way. I'd rather
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: play Sav in the stack, Tucker craft grown man shit.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: And then JMO on the other side, instead of golden
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: for 200 bucks less, I got a four one. You're
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: telling me that that can't be four or five touchdowns
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: in this game. And who has that five man with
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: a four one with no touchdowns. no Gibbs, no Amin, Ron,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: no Laporta and no golden by the way. But you know,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: I just talked about it. If you don't think that
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: could really happen, take one guy out of it.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: I don't care.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that can definitely happen. This game
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: is just going to be a potential for that type
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: of stuff. Back and forth. We got our stack ranking
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: on the Packers side. We know why love is owned.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: It's just, how can you get different with him? So yeah,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: Same as always, not who you play, it's how you
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: play them. It's the same with the games. It's not,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: you know, you can move to a different game if
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: you want to just be like, I'm just going to
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  Speaker 1: hope that game fails. Oh, nobody else is going to fail.
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  Speaker 1: It could, but it's like there's ways that you could
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  Speaker 1: also just play it differently and play it to win.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's important to think about as well. Hoop,
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  Speaker 1: any other thoughts on this game or final thoughts on
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  Speaker 1: the slate from you?
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  Speaker 2: A hell of a slate really. Now that we've talked
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  Speaker 2: through it all, I mean, just a ton of different options,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: ton of ways to go. And like the, the value
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  Speaker 2: on the slate opens up the world in terms of
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  Speaker 2: what you can actually build and build uniquely as well. It's,
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  Speaker 2: it's clear where a lot of this ownership is going,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a couple things that definitely stand out to
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  Speaker 2: me now that we've talked through this, I just think
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  Speaker 2: Jameer Gibbs has to be upper teens, low twenties. And, again,
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  Speaker 2: insane to me because yes, these 9,800, but someone put,
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  Speaker 2: put in the chat earlier, peak Christian McCaffrey, they had
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  Speaker 2: his price well, well into the 10 K range. We
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  Speaker 2: were playing 10 K like the Gibbs has performed better
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  Speaker 2: than McCaffrey was doing. So if Gibbs is going to
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  Speaker 2: be right, even around 20%, that's insane to me. Like
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  Speaker 2: it's just a load up spot, uh, in, in all
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  Speaker 2: sorts of formats. And then the Puka thing is definitely
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  Speaker 2: standing out to me. Um, You know, I think it's
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  Speaker 2: a situation where he's had this questionable tag all week.
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  Speaker 2: People are going to like this Lions Packers game that
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: spends like Puka at to me, like in this spot
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  Speaker 2: should be like 25 percent owned. It's coming in like
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  Speaker 2: half of that. So that stands out to me as well.
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  Speaker 2: But again, overall, it's a it's a really dynamic slate.
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  Speaker 2: And I think we're going to get the job done today.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: Someone's getting all the way up to the top in
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  Speaker 2: this thing.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be nice. I will say that comment was really
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: solid too. When you think about like McCaffrey at his peak,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: obviously incredible. And I think Gibbs is, you know, one
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: of the best fantasy players, fantasy points, scores, that type
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: of player that you want on a DraftKings format of
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: all time. But now we also have other ways to
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: afford him. Like we didn't, when McCaffrey used to be 10K,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: I'm reminiscing a lot this week. It's been like 10
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: years I put up the other day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when he was 10K, he was like 40%. Everyone just...
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: The lineup came preloaded. Everyone was just playing them, and
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: he was like 40% owned. Now Gibbs... is a little
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: cheaper and less owned. And we have the value, like you.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: Said, values that we never used to have a $ 2, 500
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: tight end. You can play like more people understanding double
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: tight end defenses, right down at 2k flat. Like you,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: you got all kinds of ways to go about it
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: to fit them. So it shouldn't be because of price and,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just always bit too much. And I like
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: this guy a little bit. If you actually like Gibbs,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: there's a way to get to them and you can
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  Speaker 1: find it. So title, any final thoughts of you on
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  Speaker 1: the slate in general?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a great slate.
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  Speaker 4: And if you're in first after the noon games, don't
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  Speaker 4: be counting your money yet.
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  Speaker 3: These afternoon games can explode. So, yeah, good day of football.
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