Latest / Financial Survival Network / Golden Opportunities: Navigating Fed Rate Cuts and China's Metal Buying Spree - Phillip Streible #6062
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- 0:00So a lot of people were prepositioning for those fat interest rate cuts. Historically,
- 0:04after the first futter reserve cut in an interest after an interest rate hiking
- 0:09cycle, gold on average has rallied about six percent within the first thirty days.
- 0:14We haven't seen the cut yet, so we haven't seen that kind of
- 0:16reaction. A lot of people were front running that, so that's part of
- 0:20the reason why we were going up. Also, China was a significant buyer
- 0:24of precious models of the gold market, as well as many other central banks.
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- 1:02Carrie Letz and with us today is Phil Strabo and it's great to have
- 1:07you back on. Phil. So, Hey, we've been waiting for these
- 1:11FED rate cuts. How much longer are we going to have to wait?
- 1:15Here? Phil, Well, we're probably gonna have to wait till the end
- 1:18of the year. I mean, it's a far cry from the one hundred
- 1:21and fifty basis points of the six inches straight cuts that they were expecting at
- 1:25the start. It just appears that the inflation continues to remain sticky in at
- 1:29elevated levels, pushing out those expectations. I personally thought that the FED would
- 1:34have made a rate cut around the May the June meeting. There still is
- 1:38the June meeting coming up right around June twelfth, but just for political reasons,
- 1:44they would make that cuts out propel you know, markets a bit higher.
- 1:48But if the Fed's going to stick to their guns, they're going to
- 1:51wait till September December. So right now cm FED watch tool only has about
- 1:55fifty bases points factored in this year. All right, So hey, I
- 2:00once read in Baron's they said the FED is doing what it does best,
- 2:04which is getting a president reelected. Here. You know, we've seen these
- 2:09leaks. We know what Chairman Powell, who his preference is for president.
- 2:17You think they're just gonna say damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead. They
- 2:23I mean, I'm with you one hundred percent, because Trump already said that
- 2:27he would have replaced Powell, and you know, towards the ender, he
- 2:30said he should have after the fact. But you know, so Powell does
- 2:35have some job security that he's got to work on. They really would need
- 2:38to cut rates in order to propel equities to new all time highs. But
- 2:42the problem is is that you're fighting this double edged sword with inflation going higher.
- 2:46So I'm not sure what they could do because a lot of the things
- 2:50are out of their hands. They can't control, like whether with the grains
- 2:53or you know, this bird fluid that's affecting meats, or problems in the
- 2:58Middle East with right energy prices were natural disasters for that sake, because that
- 3:04was a big component of CPI and insurance rising. But yeah, I think
- 3:07the Fed's going to try and do what they can do in order to get
- 3:10it done. It's just going to be too little, too late, though,
- 3:13I think equities will come down before then. Yeah. Hey, so
- 3:17so basically it's too little too late, is what you're saying, right one
- 3:22hundred and ten percent. I mean it's showing up in the data right now.
- 3:24We're already seeing you know, consumer confidence levels come down, GDP come
- 3:29down, We're seeing the unemployment rates tick up, We're seeing the jobs numbers.
- 3:32They finally disappointed here on the last one. The Fed's going to wait
- 3:36for the next one. If they do get a disappointing number, you know,
- 3:39before they could make another move. But sixty four percent chance that they
- 3:43do cut rates in this September meeting, and only about a ten percent chance
- 3:47that they cut in the June meeting. Only ten percent. And June is
- 3:52right around the corner here, Phil, Yeah, it's fallen quite a bit.
- 3:54They do we next week will have some more inflation data outsp I,
- 4:00PPI. I haven't looked at the breakdown of that. I do know that
- 4:03the CPI data would have come in a little bit lower, and they can
- 4:06get some you know, rents and things like that down, But they can't
- 4:11get the rents down until they can get people buying again, you know,
- 4:15taking longer term stabs on mortgages, and with a rate of over seven percent,
- 4:19that's tough to perceive. So we're just going to have to wait and
- 4:23see on that as well. Okay, so this is kind of bad news
- 4:28here for the markets. Maybe do you think gold has already anticipated this or
- 4:34and that's why it's kind of reached level. It's not going any higher right
- 4:39for this moment. What's your take on it. So a lot of people
- 4:42were prepositioning for those fat interest rate cuts. Historically, after the first futter
- 4:46reserve cut in an interest after an interest rate hiking cycle, gold on average
- 4:51has rallied about six percent within the first thirty days. We haven't seen the
- 4:56cut gets so we haven't seen that kind of reaction. A lot of people
- 4:59were front running that, so that's part of the reason why we were going
- 5:02up. Also, China was a significant buyer of precious models of the gold
- 5:08market, as well as many other central banks. They just don't like the
- 5:11debasement of their own currencies and are trying to divest themselves from other foreign currencies.
- 5:15It seems like everybody's always is an enemy right now with someone else,
- 5:19so they're trying to just pair off some of those currencies. At the moment,
- 5:24it's easy to park it into a hard asset like the gold market,
- 5:27but gold really is stuck here between a rock and a hard place. We
- 5:30need to get back over twenty three point fifty then I think we can break
- 5:33out to the upside. See twenty four hundred, will start talking about all
- 5:38time highs again. Key level support twenty three hundred on the downside in about
- 5:43twenty two eighty, which is a fifty day moving average below it. Okay,
- 5:46so that's gold inflation. What's your take on inflation? You know,
- 5:54I always love these headlines, Phil It's said experts surprise by higher than the
- 6:00expected inflation number. I mean, who are these experts? Have they got
- 6:03their heads and totally in the sand or up their butts? I mean,
- 6:09if you're you know, like working in commodities, you know, we trade
- 6:13all the different asset classes, everything from your meats, your energy, is
- 6:16your your grains and things like that. We even trade softs. Where you
- 6:19saw cocoa rech record highs. You bet, like if cocoa prices are going
- 6:24up substantially like that, the trickle effect is going to with higher input costs,
- 6:30higher labor costs as well. Everyone's demanding more pay here for their work,
- 6:34what little work they're doing, it's going to have to be pushed on
- 6:38as someone else, and it's always pushed onto the little guy. Those higher
- 6:41inflation costs. So you know, just going out to dinner, it seems
- 6:44like you can't go anywhere right now for two people without dropping close to a
- 6:47one hundred dollars for just a subpar restaurant nowadays. So this inflation is definitely
- 6:53it's sticky. It's hanging around, and I think that the FED getting back
- 6:56to a two percent level, I think is it's just not going to happen.
- 7:00I think that they're gonna have to rave us, you know, raise
- 7:02the white flag and lift those you lift the floor up a bit and say
- 7:06two and a half percent could be the new you know, inflation target.
- 7:11Yeah, so you know, and fast food inflation is even higher. It's
- 7:15up seventy three percent. I can't even imagine going. I haven't been to
- 7:19McDonald's in forever. But then again, it was the dollar menu back then,
- 7:23and if they do still have items on a dollar menu, they probably
- 7:26need a microscope in order to see how big, you know, what you're
- 7:29getting is. So it just seems like they're sneaking the inflation anywhere they can,
- 7:33you know, bottles of pop and things like that. Even a beer
- 7:36is a little bit smaller than what it once was. You're not getting those
- 7:40twelve ounce curls anymore. It's probably more like eleven point eight or eleven point
- 7:44five. Yeah, that's called the shrinkflation. Right there you go, and
- 7:48it's shrinking like before our very eyes, and nobody's fulled. Like when you
- 7:55get a toilet paper, a roll of toilet paper or bounty and it's like
- 8:00literally three three squares on it. You know, Like who they trying to
- 8:05fool here? They can't fool anybody, I mean, you know, I
- 8:09mean, I guess maybe somebody out there where you know, you're getting you
- 8:13know, some of these higher inflation costs may be offset by government assistants,
- 8:18so certain people might not be feeling it in other ways. But I know
- 8:22for the working middle class, they're really you know, it's really crunching into
- 8:26them. I mean a lot of people are just in jobs where it's fixed
- 8:30their their their compensation is not tied into inflation whatsoever. And we've already started
- 8:37to see wage growth come down just a bit, so they'll start to feel
- 8:39it again, especially if we start getting you know, a Middle East conflict
- 8:43that builds up, you start getting the higher gasoline, higher crude oil prices.
- 8:48That's where people really feel it at the you know, at the pump.
- 8:50First. Hey, so what about the election, not about who's going
- 8:56to win or whatever, but what is that doing to the economy me Now,
- 9:01so generally when you do in an election year, the S and P.
- 9:05Five hundred usually bumps around for the first one to two quarters and then
- 9:09you see ramp and fiscal spending in order to try and you know, create
- 9:13some enthusiasm in the marketing, try and get the equity the's going higher.
- 9:18Typically after the first quarter into the second we rally about seven percent on average.
- 9:22But it looks like US equities already factored that all in. I believe
- 9:26that it's going to be more of a volatile session from here on out.
- 9:31You know, we'll see how some of the policies we haven't gotten those breakdowns
- 9:33that we toreally historically get where it says, you know, if if ex
- 9:37president is elected versus why these are their agendas, these are the different sectors
- 9:43that will be impacted the most and benefit from it. So we'll have to
- 9:48see what you will have to just you know, wait and see here.
- 9:50I mean, we do know who the two candidates are, so we have
- 9:52some clarity from there, but it just seems like, you know, these
- 9:58candidates are really distracted at the moment then with their own problems going on and
- 10:01not really able to express what they're going to do with the economy. Hey,
- 10:07So you know, the interesting thing about this election, without getting into
- 10:11the political aspects, is you have two people who are actually president running for
- 10:16president, so you pretty much know what you got with them. And you
- 10:20know, I think the last time it happened was Grover Cleveland in the eighteen
- 10:26seventy five election. Correct me if I'm wrong. And you know, it's
- 10:30interesting there's so many parallels from that election. Cleveland, major controversy, He's
- 10:37from Buffalo, New York. Interestingly enough, so New York presidents. Cleveland
- 10:43had hired a stand in person for him to avoid the draft in the Civil
- 10:48War. And you know, Trump basically had some kind of medical issue that
- 10:54didn't seem too major. There's there's a lot of rise a corruption and a
- 11:01lot of instability, and you know, it's it's just interesting to see the
- 11:07historic parallels here. It definitely is. I mean, let's go see how
- 11:11it plays odd. I mean it's going to be it's gonna be pretty uh,
- 11:16pretty wild once we get closer to those times. I mean, Trump's
- 11:20got some work, He's got to do right now with these you know,
- 11:24with these trials and things like that. But if he can get that behind
- 11:26him, even though it just seems like they're going to drag this out as
- 11:30long as possible to him from uh, you know, going out and meeting
- 11:33with with folks and and you know, rally and yeah, all in the
- 11:37show trials, you mean you talk about yeah, hey, look a little
- 11:43later the Trotsky, you know, just the it's just crazy. You never
- 11:48thought I'd love to see it, But hey, we don't want to get
- 11:52into politics here. This is a family show after all. So looking down
- 11:56the road, what else? What else are you seeing here? I mean,
- 12:01we made it through March without a crash, We made it through October
- 12:05and September without a crash. Is there a crash down the road here?
- 12:09So like just looking at the hard numbers, I mean, stocks continue to
- 12:13show some strengthen May the dollar is strengthened, you know, as it is
- 12:16recording. We've seen about six straight trading sessions, the only one on the
- 12:20green screen on the green at the moment, and it's extended its longest winning
- 12:24street since twenty twenty four. The SP's rallying dine out of the last you
- 12:28know, twelve days in the Nasdaq is about one percent from record highs.
- 12:31So if you just looked at that specifically, it really looks like a good
- 12:35picture. If you look technically, I think that equities are going to round
- 12:39off and we'll see a lower high on the charts. I think a lot
- 12:43of people you know, are digesting this sell and may and go away.
- 12:46I mean, you think about it. If US equities are already putting up
- 12:50this five to nine percent as of this recording, why not take that money
- 12:56off the table some bit and ship back to those money market ounce where you
- 13:01know, people aren't getting four and a half to five percent on their money
- 13:03without taking any real risk. So it puts you in a pretty good place
- 13:07going out through the summer when things can get pretty vilid. So we have
- 13:11been tactically taking some shorts here and there for our clients, both on the
- 13:16wealth management side and then also on the future side. We're on the wealth
- 13:20management side, we use spider puts for a small percentage of the portfolio to
- 13:24try and just soften even out some of these selloffs and these ripples that we
- 13:28have in the market. But I think the fifty moving to average on the
- 13:31S and P is a key test fifty that would be fifty one eighty six
- 13:37and anything north of fifty two fifty, I think it's a little froppy in
- 13:39the market, all right, So hey, what's your take on the Tesla.
- 13:43It's all the turmoil with that stock that's been happening. It's been pretty
- 13:50It amazes me. I mean, it'd be just straight with you. How
- 13:52many people hate the CEO but drive the car. It seems so like him
- 13:56a critical it's kind of funny, but you know, I don't I think
- 14:00you can county line must down. He has ways to come, you know,
- 14:03come back. And I think that Tesla really switched itself, you know,
- 14:07from this EV vehicle company to more of a growth stock. Again,
- 14:11that guy is uh is highly intelligent, has a number of irons in the
- 14:16fire, and I wouldn't count him down in any way. So I think
- 14:20that any significant correction on Tesla, I think our good long term buying opportunities.
- 14:24It just they've they've already established themselves as the leading maker and in the
- 14:31z V vehicles. I think anyone else who tries to enter just you know,
- 14:35just can't live up to what they've already built. And I know that
- 14:39China's you know, growth of them purchasing Teslas and things like that. You
- 14:43know, it has been fading off in the number of other competitors over in
- 14:48China is starting to grow. But I think once you're a Tesla on or
- 14:50you're probably one forever. Yeah, I could not agree with you more there.
- 14:56You know, I just tappen. I like a Musk and I drive
- 15:00a Tesla. Not because I think I'm saving the world, because it's a
- 15:03ridiculous notion that you can save the world within by driving an EV. It's
- 15:09going to take a little more effort than that, for sure, But driving
- 15:13experience wise, nothing like the Tesla. The new full self they call it
- 15:18supervised full self driving. You know, it really is close to the point
- 15:24where it's going to drive the car for you and you'll kind of watch it
- 15:28and make sure it doesn't It's kind of the point now where it drives the
- 15:33car and you watch it make sure it doesn't get into problems. I mean,
- 15:37there's issues with it, but there's if you're patient and you don't mind
- 15:41the car driving slower than you would otherwise and coming to full stops at stop
- 15:46science because the government made them do that. As long as you're okay with
- 15:50that, basically the thing will drive itself with few exceptions. So interesting thing.
- 15:56I just want to get your take on that. They Phil been great
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- 16:37enjoyed having you on. Good luck be trading. We'll talk to you again
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