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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: There is a dream that rests, I think, in the American imagination.
- 0:09SPEAKER_00: And many of us have carried it for most of our adult lives.
- 0:17SPEAKER_00: A house with a porch.
- 0:21a warm afternoon grand children running across the yard and a
- 0:30rocking chair waiting
- 0:33SPEAKER_00: with our name on it you have made it you have
- 0:43earned it you have worked hard raised your family served your
- 0:49church paid your dues
- 0:51and now finally you get to rest I love that image I really do I
- 1:04have thought about
- 1:05SPEAKER_00: that rocking chair more times than I care to admit but
- 1:13SPEAKER_00: Here is what nags at me as well.
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: And perhaps many of us in this congregation,
- 1:23SPEAKER_00: the ministries that we have built,
- 1:26SPEAKER_00: the service projects that we have started,
- 1:31SPEAKER_00: the roles that we have filled so much care and prayers into for decades,
- 1:40SPEAKER_00: well,
- 1:41SPEAKER_00: they are still there.
- 1:43the harvest has not ended and it seems like no one's lining up
- 1:51to take our place so
- 1:58SPEAKER_00: this morning I'm going to
- 2:05SPEAKER_00: stories, both of which we have just heard read.
- 2:09One is about a rabbi walking through villages full of people
- 2:15who have no one to care for them.
- 2:18And the other is about a woman named Sarah who laughed at God
- 2:27because she was sure
- 2:29SPEAKER_00: her season of fruitfulness was over.
- 2:34Now,
- 2:35what strikes me as I read Matthew 9,
- 2:3935-38 is where Jesus is and what he is doing.
- 2:45SPEAKER_00: He is not in Jerusalem.
- 2:47SPEAKER_00: He is not in the temple engaging with theologians.
- 2:51He is out among the ordinary people in ordinary places and what
- 2:57he sees breaks his heart.
- 3:02SPEAKER_00: And it's not their sin
- 3:05SPEAKER_00: It's not their theology.
- 3:07SPEAKER_00: It is their leaderlessness.
- 3:12SPEAKER_00: It is their need.
- 3:14And then,
- 3:15in response to that,
- 3:16he says something that should stop us cold.
- 3:20SPEAKER_00: The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few.
- 3:27SPEAKER_00: So this is not some minor statement
- 3:30Staffing Inconvenience This Is A Crisis Of Care And Jesus Does
- 3:38Not Say Wait Until A
- 3:41New Generation Rises Up To Take Care Of This He Says Pray That
- 3:48The Lord Of The
- 3:48Harvest Will Send Laborers He Is Speaking To The People Already
- 3:55In The Room
- 3:58in Genesis 18 11 through 14 Sarah left because the idea of
- 4:06burying a child was
- 4:09absurd her body had moved way past the season of fertility she
- 4:15was old very old
- 4:18Abram was old very old the train had left the station decades
- 4:25ago so to speak so
- 4:27SPEAKER_00: what
- 4:28SPEAKER_00: What God was proposing made absolutely no biological sense.
- 4:35SPEAKER_00: What God was proposing made no cultural sense.
- 4:41SPEAKER_00: What God was proposing made no common sense.
- 4:47SPEAKER_00: And yet, God says, is anything too wonderful for the Lord?
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: And that question is not just for Sarah.
- 5:01It is for every one of us who has quietly decided that our most
- 5:08fruitful years are behind us.
- 5:14SPEAKER_00: Now, I want to be fair to our younger generation.
- 5:21SPEAKER_00: I see you.
- 5:24there a couple over here some down there a few over here before
- 5:28we go any further
- 5:31because part of our story we tell ourselves is that the younger
- 5:37generation well
- 5:39they're just not stepping up they're not showing up they're not
- 5:44caring and the data
- 5:48SPEAKER_00: as it turns out is more complicated than that
- 5:53SPEAKER_00: There is a Barna Group study that was done in 2025.
- 5:57SPEAKER_00: It's called the State of the Church Report.
- 6:01SPEAKER_00: And it contains what researchers are calling a surprising reversal.
- 6:08SPEAKER_00: For the first time in modern research history,
- 6:13SPEAKER_00: Generation Z and Millennials are now the most regular churchgoers,
- 6:20SPEAKER_00: outpacing older generations.
- 6:23Weekly church volunteerism in that group has also surpassed
- 6:29pre-pandemic levels,
- 6:31SPEAKER_00: rising to 24% of U.S.
- 6:33SPEAKER_00: adults.
- 6:36SPEAKER_00: And here's the detail that we should give us pause.
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: Gen Z leads weekly volunteerism at 21% and millennials at 19%.
- 6:46SPEAKER_00: Wild boomers, raise your hand.
- 6:51SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the old ones in the group.
- 6:55SPEAKER_00: We are just at 9% and elders,
- 6:57SPEAKER_00: which are the folks way older than us,
- 7:00are at 12% Younger generations are actually volunteering at
- 7:05church at higher rates
- 7:06SPEAKER_00: than we older folks
- 7:08There is also data from a Lewis Center report drawing on
- 7:13national congregational
- 7:15study that shows older adults over 65 now represent 33% of
- 7:25average congregational
- 7:27SPEAKER_00: participants.
- 7:28SPEAKER_00: That's what happens when you're Tom when you go on vacation.
- 7:33SPEAKER_00: And it's also fairly complicated, all this data stuff.
- 7:36SPEAKER_00: But it's important you will understand why in a minute.
- 7:38SPEAKER_00: Compared to just 17% of the general population.
- 7:42SPEAKER_00: Okay?
- 7:43SPEAKER_00: So churchgoers our age, 33%.
- 7:46SPEAKER_00: Average population, 17%.
- 7:49SPEAKER_00: So we, the older folks, are overrepresented in our pews.
- 7:56SPEAKER_00: We are concentrating on
- 8:00So what accounts for the gap between these numbers and what we
- 8:07seem to be observing?
- 8:09SPEAKER_00: Well, there actually are a few things.
- 8:14SPEAKER_00: First,
- 8:15SPEAKER_00: and younger generations,
- 8:17SPEAKER_00: let me know if this is true or not,
- 8:19SPEAKER_00: hopefully it is,
- 8:19SPEAKER_00: at least it's what the data shows,
- 8:22SPEAKER_00: younger generations do not engage in the same way as we older folks did.
- 8:31Research from the Millennial Impact Report and BARNA alike
- 8:37shows that Gen Z and
- 8:39Millennials prefer to volunteer on what researchers call a
- 8:45continuum basis.
- 8:48They want to engage in multiple ways rather than serving in one
- 8:53ongoing role.
- 8:55SPEAKER_00: So, let me just check that.
- 8:59SPEAKER_00: Those of you that are millennial and Gen Z's,
- 9:02would you agree that you would prefer to serve in multiple ways
- 9:07rather than engage
- 9:08SPEAKER_00: in one long service project that lasts for 10 years?
- 9:12SPEAKER_00: How many of y'all are willing to commit to 10 years?
- 9:16SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 9:17SPEAKER_00: How many would say, oh, great.
- 9:20SPEAKER_00: I've got a seminary for you.
- 9:23SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 9:26SPEAKER_00: We've talked about that, right?
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 9:30we need to have lunch again alright but would you agree most of
- 9:34you just sort of
- 9:35want to volunteer here and there based on kind of how your how
- 9:39your heart moves you
- 9:40would you agree with that anybody few of you okay cool okay
- 9:44some of you are nodding
- 9:45you just don't want to say that alright this group of people
- 9:49seem to be driven by
- 9:51SPEAKER_00: purpose huh you forgot Gen X Gen X you're coming don't worry Gen X
- 10:01a lot to get through that's why I get myself a little bit more
- 10:03time this morning I
- 10:04can talk for another 25 minutes and nobody will get mad at me
- 10:08so this group is
- 10:09SPEAKER_00: driven by purpose,
- 10:10flexibility and relationship not institutional loyalty or
- 10:19obligation so the
- 10:22structure of traditional church ministry a standing committee
- 10:28who doesn't want to
- 10:29SPEAKER_00: be part of that
- 10:33SPEAKER_00: with monthly meetings or a decade-long commitment.
- 10:37Kind of the one I was asked to commit to when I went to the
- 10:40mission field.
- 10:40SPEAKER_00: They asked me, will you go for 10 years?
- 10:43SPEAKER_00: I was like, of course I will.
- 10:44SPEAKER_00: Who wouldn't do that?
- 10:46SPEAKER_00: Very difficult to happen these days.
- 10:49SPEAKER_00: It's simply not how this group organizes our lives or their service.
- 10:57SPEAKER_00: Secondly, all right,
- 11:00SPEAKER_00: They are carrying enormous weight.
- 11:07SPEAKER_00: Student debt.
- 11:11SPEAKER_00: Housing costs.
- 11:12SPEAKER_00: You can hardly buy a house right now, even if you want one.
- 11:17Economic uncertainty and the particular anxieties of life in a
- 11:23rapid,
- 11:24changing world.
- 11:25SPEAKER_00: They all create real constraints on time and energy.
- 11:32SPEAKER_00: Their obligations are not excuses, older folks.
- 11:38SPEAKER_00: They are real.
- 11:43And third,
- 11:44over a three-year period tracked by Horizon Stewardship,
- 11:48Gen X,
- 11:51SPEAKER_00: increased volunteer hours by 39%,
- 11:53SPEAKER_00: and boomers increased theirs by 36%,
- 11:58while millennials and Gen Z actually decreased their volunteer
- 12:02hours by 16% to 17%,
- 12:07SPEAKER_00: which is a little conflicting.
- 12:09SPEAKER_00: So what does all this mean?
- 12:11So the trend seems to be sustained that traditional ministry
- 12:16service still favors old
- 12:23service as opposed to the way that the younger generation seems
- 12:27to volunteer or
- 12:28SPEAKER_00: participate in altruistic things.
- 12:33SPEAKER_00: So,
- 12:35SPEAKER_00: what this means is that the problem is not a simple,
- 12:39SPEAKER_00: oh,
- 12:39SPEAKER_00: the younger generation doesn't care.
- 12:43SPEAKER_00: It is that they engage differently.
- 12:45SPEAKER_00: They carry different
- 12:47SPEAKER_00: burdens and they may genuinely be called to different forms of service.
- 12:57SPEAKER_00: We have to accept that.
- 12:59SPEAKER_00: Which brings us back to the uncomfortable question.
- 13:03SPEAKER_00: If they're not being called to continue what we began, well then who is?
- 13:12SPEAKER_00: You're not going to like the next part.
- 13:18SPEAKER_00: There are three options, at least three options.
- 13:22SPEAKER_00: First, the model itself may need to change.
- 13:28SPEAKER_00: David Kinnaman of Barna puts it plainly,
- 13:33effective ministry to millennials means helping these young
- 13:38believers discover
- 13:40SPEAKER_00: their own ministry in the world.
- 13:44SPEAKER_00: not merely asking them to wait their turn to take upon themselves hours.
- 13:53SPEAKER_00: And if we want the younger generation to carry the work forward,
- 13:58we need to release our grip on exactly how that is going to
- 14:04look for them.
- 14:07SPEAKER_00: They may not run the exact programs we have built or imagined for them.
- 14:14SPEAKER_00: But they may carry the spirit of it forward.
- 14:20SPEAKER_00: And this is not our failure, friends.
- 14:23SPEAKER_00: This is how movements continue to live on.
- 14:28The brethren who came before us did not pass on identical
- 14:33structures to us.
- 14:35SPEAKER_00: They passed on a vision.
- 14:38SPEAKER_00: And perhaps our task is the same.
- 14:43SPEAKER_00: Second,
- 14:45SPEAKER_00: Their calling may genuinely lie elsewhere.
- 14:51SPEAKER_00: It is worth asking the hard theological question,
- 14:57SPEAKER_00: what if God is not calling this generation to our particular ministries?
- 15:05SPEAKER_00: What if their calling is to digital spaces, to
- 15:10SPEAKER_00: to advocacy movements,
- 15:12SPEAKER_00: to community organizations,
- 15:15to neighborhood expressions of faith that look nothing like
- 15:20Sunday school,
- 15:21SPEAKER_00: but everything like the kingdom.
- 15:26The Springtide Research Institute has documented that many Gen
- 15:30Z young people are
- 15:32SPEAKER_00: not rejecting faith,
- 15:38SPEAKER_00: outside the institutional structures itself.
- 15:44SPEAKER_00: That is a different problem than indifference.
- 15:48It is a condition that may require from us different wisdom and
- 15:55different responses
- 15:57SPEAKER_00: other than frustration or pressure.
- 16:02And third,
- 16:03and this is the one I want to dwell with just a little bit
- 16:06longer,
- 16:08and you're not going to like it God may be calling us back in
- 16:22Sarah laughed because
- 16:23she was certain that her season of fertility and fruitfulness
- 16:28was over and she was
- 16:33SPEAKER_00: wrong
- 16:37The concept of a second season of life has received serious
- 16:43theological attention
- 16:45SPEAKER_00: in recent years.
- 16:46SPEAKER_00: Richard Rohr,
- 16:47SPEAKER_00: as you know,
- 16:47SPEAKER_00: one of my favorites,
- 16:49SPEAKER_00: in his widely read book Falling Upward,
- 16:52SPEAKER_00: which I love the title,
- 16:54SPEAKER_00: argues that the first half of life is primarily about buildings.
- 17:00SPEAKER_00: Building identity, career, family, structure.
- 17:03SPEAKER_00: But the second season of life, he writes, is about something deeper.
- 17:09SPEAKER_00: Finding the actual contents that this container was meant to deliver.
- 17:16SPEAKER_00: In Rohrer's framing, the second half of life is not a winding down.
- 17:25SPEAKER_00: It is a summoning up.
- 17:30SPEAKER_00: Psalm 92 puts it in the language of a tree.
- 17:36SPEAKER_00: They will still bear fruit in old age.
- 17:40SPEAKER_00: 62 now.
- 17:43SPEAKER_00: They shall be full of sap and richness.
- 17:54that's you the psalmist did not promise ease he promised
- 18:02vitality not the vitality
- 18:05of the young never going back there building their containers
- 18:10but the vitality that
- 18:12comes from those who have learned what this container is for
- 18:21our culture has given
- 18:23SPEAKER_00: us aim
- 18:23SPEAKER_00: A powerful narrative about what life is after 65.
- 18:28SPEAKER_00: What it is supposed to look like.
- 18:31SPEAKER_00: It is a narrative of deserved rest.
- 18:35SPEAKER_00: Of striving completed.
- 18:38SPEAKER_00: Of obligations discharged.
- 18:42SPEAKER_00: And I do not want to dismiss that rest is in
- 18:48SPEAKER_00: Holy Sabbath is a gift from God.
- 18:52SPEAKER_00: We are not called to exhaustions.
- 18:57But there is a difference between Sabbath rest and what one
- 19:02Catholic described
- 19:04SPEAKER_00: after his retirement.
- 19:06SPEAKER_00: He said,
- 19:07SPEAKER_00: I thought the perfect retirement was playing golf,
- 19:10SPEAKER_00: traveling and waking up each day with no pressure to do anything.
- 19:18And then after a few months I was bored and began to experience
- 19:24an unexplained depression.
- 19:28SPEAKER_00: He had reached the destination our culture promised and found it hollow.
- 19:35And frankly I've heard this from a lot of people as I've been
- 19:39journeying through this idea.
- 19:42He eventually returned to service helping create a senior
- 19:47ministry program and
- 19:49SPEAKER_00: wrote,
- 19:50SPEAKER_00: My life now has much more meaning and purpose.
- 19:56This is the promise of a re-wirement as opposed to the myth of
- 20:04re-tirement.
- 20:07SPEAKER_00: Richard Rohrer uses the image of Odysseus.
- 20:10SPEAKER_00: Wonderful image.
- 20:12SPEAKER_00: After winning the Trojan War,
- 20:15SPEAKER_00: after completing the first great journey,
- 20:18SPEAKER_00: Odysseus is called to a second journey.
- 20:22And Rohrer names the first half of life as a survival dance
- 20:27using the Odysseus
- 20:28SPEAKER_00: image and the second half as a sacred dance.
- 20:34SPEAKER_00: Many of us,
- 20:35SPEAKER_00: he says,
- 20:35get stuck doing more and more of the first dance because we
- 20:41don't want to stop or
- 20:42because we don't know another way or because the second journey
- 20:47frightens us more
- 20:48SPEAKER_00: than the first.
- 20:50But I think that there is another reason why we avoid the
- 20:54second journey and I
- 20:56SPEAKER_00: think it is one of the most relevant ones in this congregation.
- 21:02We have been told by our culture and perhaps even well-meaning
- 21:07people in our lives
- 21:09SPEAKER_00: that we have done our part.
- 21:15SPEAKER_00: That it is someone else's turn.
- 21:20SPEAKER_00: That we should step back and let the young ones take over.
- 21:25what if that voice as pleasant and reasonable as it sounds is
- 21:32not the voice of God now
- 21:35just let me pause there and say I'm not suggesting that those
- 21:40of us in the second
- 21:41season of life should simply do everything we have always done
- 21:46before holding fast
- 21:49to the reins indefinitely not letting anyone in until we just
- 21:55collapse that is not
- 21:57sustainable that is martyrdom and it is not what I'm calling us
- 22:02towards today
- 22:06SPEAKER_00: Instead I am suggesting something more nuanced.
- 22:12That we take seriously the possibility that God has not
- 22:18finished with us yet.
- 22:22SPEAKER_00: That the wisdom,
- 22:24SPEAKER_00: the relationships,
- 22:26SPEAKER_00: the credibility,
- 22:27SPEAKER_00: the experience we have accumulated over decades of faithful service
- 22:34may be precisely what certain ministries need in this
- 22:40particular moment in history.
- 22:45That our task is not to subside and hope someone younger shows
- 22:50up to take over
- 22:51SPEAKER_00: where we have left off,
- 22:52but to model with joy and intention what it looks like to
- 22:57remain committed to the
- 22:59SPEAKER_00: things that matter.
- 23:03David Kinneman's research shows that millennials who stay
- 23:06connected to the church
- 23:08are twice as likely as those who have left to say that an older
- 23:14believer invested
- 23:16SPEAKER_00: in them personally.
- 23:19Not that an older believer managed a program that they really
- 23:23appreciated,
- 23:25SPEAKER_00: but that an older individual invested in them.
- 23:29SPEAKER_00: showed them when they needed it, walked alongside of them.
- 23:35The mentoring presence of those of us in the second season of
- 23:40life may be more
- 23:42SPEAKER_00: formative,
- 23:43and I would argue that it is more formative for the next
- 23:46generation than any formal
- 23:49SPEAKER_00: ministry structure we could handle it.
- 23:59Carl Vaders a pastor and author who has written extensively
- 24:04about small churches
- 24:06puts it this way senior ministry must be as intentional as
- 24:14every other ministry
- 24:17older Christians can contribute significantly you can build a
- 24:23strong church by
- 24:24SPEAKER_00: focusing on seniors
- 24:28and make sure you get this he is not talking about ministry to
- 24:35us he is talking
- 24:39about ministry through us Psalm 71 gives us the prayer that
- 24:49belongs to this season
- 24:51SPEAKER_00: of life so even
- 24:54SPEAKER_00: to old age and gray hairs of God.
- 24:59SPEAKER_00: Do not forsake me until I proclaim your might to another generation.
- 25:07SPEAKER_00: Your power to all those to come.
- 25:11SPEAKER_00: The psalmist is not praying to be useful until someone else arrives.
- 25:16SPEAKER_00: He is praying to remain a living testimony, a proclaimer
- 25:24SPEAKER_00: a presence until the work of passing on has been completed.
- 25:35SPEAKER_00: I am saying these things because I know that we are in a few moments
- 25:44going into a congregational business meeting to discuss what
- 25:50our plans will be for
- 25:51SPEAKER_00: a large amount of funds we now have as a congregation.
- 25:58SPEAKER_00: An amount that every single one of us,
- 26:01SPEAKER_00: I can say that with utter confidence,
- 26:05SPEAKER_00: would be very excited to have going into retirement.
- 26:15SPEAKER_00: But our calling as a people, as a congregation is not to retire.
- 26:26SPEAKER_00: I believe it is to rewire.
- 26:46I want to close with the words of a discipleship ministries
- 26:51reflection that I think
- 26:53SPEAKER_00: speaks directly to where many of us find ourselves.
- 26:59Retirement from gainful employment does not mark the end of a
- 27:07meaningful life.
- 27:09SPEAKER_00: Instead,
- 27:11SPEAKER_00: It is a kind of rewirement,
- 27:15SPEAKER_00: a shift,
- 27:17where everything we have done until now can lead us into a new
- 27:24and purposeful stage
- 27:27SPEAKER_00: of life.
- 27:29SPEAKER_00: And I would add, ministry.
- 27:34four years ago almost today I was planning on retiring I'm 62
- 27:46getting ready to retire and then
- 27:52Over a two-year period,
- 27:54God rewired me for pastoral ministry in a second season of
- 28:01life.
- 28:02SPEAKER_00: And, like it or not, brought me here.
- 28:10SPEAKER_00: It is what it is.
- 28:16and you know it's been interesting the conversation that I've
- 28:19had along the way but
- 28:21just so we're clear alright I plan on staying alright God
- 28:35willing and with your
- 28:37permission for at least the next eight years which is going to
- 28:43put me at about
- 28:45SPEAKER_00: seven
- 28:46Hopefully I have some sort of,
- 28:49you know,
- 28:49understandable speech at that point.
- 28:53SPEAKER_00: But that's the plan.
- 28:56SPEAKER_00: God is continuing to rewire me in my second season of life and ministry.
- 29:07I am inviting you to let God do the same for you and us as a
- 29:17congregation and may
- 29:20the conversations that we have in a little bit in our business
- 29:26meeting rewire all
- 29:29SPEAKER_00: of us for the future that God has for each of us Amen