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The Youngest Person In The Room? Good · Divas That Care Network

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  SPEAKER_00: It's Divas the Care Radio.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right now, though, stay tuned for another jolt of inspiration.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to Confidence in Bloom.
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  SPEAKER_01: Today, we're talking about something every woman has had to navigate at some point in her life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Finding your voice, trusting it, and having the courage to use it.
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  SPEAKER_01: My guest today is proof that your age does not determine the size of your voice or the size of your dreams.
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  SPEAKER_01: Chanel is a 16-year-old founder and CEO of Chic and Charmed Boutique by Chanel, a Canadian jewelry brand she started when she was just 13.
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  SPEAKER_01: What began as an idea has grown into a business traveling across Canada, with Chanel showcasing her jewelry at major trade shows and events from Vancouver to Toronto and many cities in between.
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  SPEAKER_01: Her entrepreneurial journey has earned national attention through CTV, global news, city news, radio, podcasts, publications, and even billboard campaigns.
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  SPEAKER_01: But what really caught my attention is that Chanel isn't just building a business.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's learning to stand behind her ideas, speak up, advocate for herself, and take up space in rooms where she may be the youngest person there.
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  SPEAKER_01: And honestly, there's something women of every age can learn from that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So today we're talking about what it means to stand up and stand firm.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome, Chanel.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited to have you here today.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for having me.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm very excited.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, of course.
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  SPEAKER_01: So let's start with tell people where you are in Canada.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, Saskatoon.
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  SPEAKER_01: So and you've been Vancouver to uh Toronto with your with your jewelry.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Vancouver to Ottawa is our farthest, and now we're expanding all through Canada.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we're going to go to Halifax and Fredericton in the next couple months here.
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  SPEAKER_01: So oh, that is so exciting.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm doing a little dance of joy for you.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's so awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now you started your business at just the age of 13 years old.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now at that age, there is, well, there can be a lot of pressure to listen to what other people think you should be doing, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: How did you learn to trust your own ideas and to find the confidence and use your own voice?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, when I first started my company, I was having mentorship from my dad.
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  SPEAKER_02: My dad really kind of guided me and helped me.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think when you do something, it doesn't even have to be in business, it could be a project at home or trying to find yourself.
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  SPEAKER_02: You need support.
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  SPEAKER_02: You need a support system behind your back because it's so difficult nowadays to do everything yourself, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: So my dad helped me kind of get started and showed me all the ropes to entrepreneurship.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I think watching him, you know, he's an entrepreneur himself.
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  SPEAKER_02: So he watching him grow his company helped me kind of start mine, but always him kind of guiding me and showing me what to do also made me grow confidence over time because you know that you have this figure in your life, a big role model.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's somebody I look up to.
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  SPEAKER_02: As I'm doing something that he would always be doing, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Learning from him, you kind of grow with that, and then you believe in yourself because you know that people around you are supporting you as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: And and I'm sure that if he saw something that he didn't believe to be working or that wouldn't work, he was more than likely very vocal about that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it made you consider well, you know, what if, you know, and I'm sure there were times where, you know, well, what if he's wrong?
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  SPEAKER_01: Right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like what what if he doesn't get it, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And and this is not something that he's come across.
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  SPEAKER_01: Maybe I should try it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure there's been, you know, situations in your business where that has sort of, you know, left you to your own devices.
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  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm, for sure, many times.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: So now I'm gonna say when you were young, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Of course, you were not old by any means, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: But when when we're young, and especially when we're entering rooms filled with adults, it would be easy for you to second guess yourself, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, adults second guess themselves.
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  SPEAKER_01: So as a teenager, right, you you must you must have moments where you sort of second guess yourself, or maybe you might even make yourself a little bit smaller than you need to be.
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  SPEAKER_01: Have you ever felt like you needed to prove that you belonged in that room?
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  SPEAKER_01: And and if you did, how did you handle it?
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  SPEAKER_02: For sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: There's many times in my business, and there's different environments that I felt like I wasn't good enough to be in there.
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  SPEAKER_02: Even you could think in school, when I go to school and you're with kids your age, and I'm doing so many different things.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have this business, but I'm also making podcasts and I'm having magazines done and I'm traveling across Canada.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I walk into a room in school and I just feel so judged by all the kids.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you think, you know, Chanel, you shouldn't feel this way because you've done so much, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And in some ways, that you are doing so much more that you should feel like, hey, I'm okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: But sometimes you don't, and that's just with kids, and kids can be cruel, but adults can be cruel as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when you start going to rooms, of course, I had my dad always backing me, but at first I felt like I didn't belong anywhere because I didn't have, I was just starting my company, but I didn't really know my whole identity behind it.
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  SPEAKER_02: When you're starting something, you're not sure what's gonna happen.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you kind of make yourself feel smaller.
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  SPEAKER_02: So if something doesn't go the way you planned it, or if it or if you fail, it's not as big, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's not out there.
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  SPEAKER_02: So once I kind of started making myself kind of bigger, because you have to do all your things yourself to get into a market.
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  SPEAKER_02: When I first started, nobody would let me into a market.
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  SPEAKER_02: They didn't want to deal with me, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: But now people are calling me to go their markets, and people are calling me to go on their podcast.
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  SPEAKER_02: But now I feel like I'm good enough to do these things.
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  SPEAKER_02: But when you first start out and when you're first working towards something, it's really hard.
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  SPEAKER_02: And lots of people, I was just on a podcast before, the guy he said lots of people will stop or not continue their goals because they feel like it's not working or they see the pressure from other people.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I feel like you kind of have to not let the outside noise bug you because people are gonna judge you all the time.
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  SPEAKER_02: When you have your own friends, my friends at school judge me all the time.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's hard, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And we have our friends, there's lots of people.
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  SPEAKER_02: We have friends who don't want to see us succeed.
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  SPEAKER_02: We have adults and people looking that we don't even know about that don't want to see us succeed, but you have to keep pushing for it anyways.
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  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I love that because that doesn't change as we get older.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, we especially the, you know, the the self-talk.
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  SPEAKER_01: I call it the itty bitty shitty committee.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's this is that's how the the committee gets its voice, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Is through all the things that you go through in your life, you know, people are gonna judge you no matter what.
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  SPEAKER_01: And those judgments become your taught self-talk, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And it doesn't matter where you go, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, and you had said something about um uh, you know, I can't remember how you put it, but it was basically, you know, it doesn't go away, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: That voice is always there, and and you know, you already know your friends are judging you.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's that's what they do, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, not of all of that judgment is based on they want you to not succeed or fail, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like a lot of it is I don't know how I'm gonna be your friend once you succeed, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Once you're a big time jeweler and you're known around the world, are you gonna have time for me?
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  SPEAKER_01: They might not want that, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And so they look at you and they're like, well, I hope it doesn't work, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: I hope it doesn't work because I don't know how I can handle our friendship if you're a big successful and I'm little bitty me.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure and I mean they might not think of it like that now, but that's basically where that some of that judgment comes from.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not all of it, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Some people really do want you to succeed and they just don't know how to support you.
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  SPEAKER_02: For sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for sure, yeah, and it's easy to outgrow people as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: And when when you're outgrowing people, even in your career, they think you're outgrowing them in general, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: And of course, that's gonna be up to you on how you navigate that and how you manage those relationships, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: For sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you're gonna learn that along the way, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna you're gonna make mistakes, we all do, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: That's why we're human, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: But that's the joy of of all of it, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: You can look back and go, oh my gosh, I can't believe I let that happen, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's fix that, let's change that, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: For sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, as your business has grown and your so has your visibility.
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  SPEAKER_01: What have you learned about setting?
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  SPEAKER_01: This is a good one, setting boundaries, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because whether it's with customers, it's with other opportunities, or just people's opinions, like we were just talking about, even really on your own, like much about your own boundaries and how you share yourself publicly, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: What have you learned about all that?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, when you start a business, like going back when you're small, you don't really think about all the outside people because you're very small, you're still who you are.
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  SPEAKER_02: The company's not a big part of your identity.
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  SPEAKER_02: But when you start a business, and everybody I talk to who has small business, they'll say their business is their identity.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's who they are, that's who they're known for.
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  SPEAKER_02: If that business was gone, they wouldn't be themselves, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: So you don't have that identity built to you yet.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you don't really worry about when I was young, I didn't really worry about it.
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  SPEAKER_02: But once you start getting public and you start getting more people to look at you, such when you do billboards, like we had a billboard campaign in Saskatoon here, lots of people have lots of opinions all of a sudden, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Lots of people are seeing you, strangers are seeing you, friends, people from school, mutual friends.
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  SPEAKER_02: There's so many, I could keep listing all the people, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And you have to kind of make a boundary of what do you want people to see?
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  SPEAKER_02: Of course, you want to be as real as possible, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: You don't want to be fake to try to get a sale.
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  SPEAKER_02: And when I started my company, that was just not what I wanted.
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  SPEAKER_02: I wanted to be my authentic self, but you don't want everybody in the world to see what's going on behind the scenes, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: We don't need everybody to see what our home looks like or so forth, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: So you have to create a boundary of what you kind of want to put out there.
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  SPEAKER_02: But it is gets really hard because when your business becomes your identity, that's just who you are.
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  SPEAKER_02: You want to post everything about your life and you want people to see that.
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  SPEAKER_02: But you also have to watch with that because not everybody watching wants to see everything going well in your life, right?
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_02: So you have to kind of create a boundary of what you want people to see, how you perceive other people, and also you want to take care of others, right?
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_02: You want to still have a great name.
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  SPEAKER_02: You still want to have your business business.
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  SPEAKER_02: You don't want to be posting what you had for dinner, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: You want to keep it if you're selling jewelry like me, you want to keep it mainly on jewelry, or if you're traveling or so forth, you want to post that.
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  SPEAKER_02: But you have to have some boundaries.
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  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes you can't please everybody in business.
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  SPEAKER_02: You're gonna have some hardships, and people are gonna say stuff about your brand and not like your product, but you have to set a boundary and say, hey, you know what?
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  SPEAKER_02: If they're saying rude things or if something's happening that you don't agree with, you still have to put your word out and you still have to say, I don't agree with this, even if it might not be right what they're saying, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And even for example, when I started my company, when I was playing with my mom's jewelry at the time and seeing what worked well, and of course my dad said, let's do trade shows and so forth, and that's kind of expanded.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I had to find out what kind of jewelry I wanted to expand into.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when I found out what I wanted, of course I wanted bling and sparkles and so forth, but we had competition in Canada, if exactly in Saskatchewan, and we looked at her prices and we looked at what we could price ours.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I said, I want mine to be a quarter of the price of our competition because I want girls my age to be afforded a pair of earrings, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: $100 is not reasonable in Canada with all the things going up.
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  SPEAKER_02: But$15,$20, a girl working at Dairy Queen or McDonald's, she could do that, right?
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_02: So when we first started getting visible, we started getting posted, people had negative comments about my company saying that we are copies or saying that we're ugly or so forth like that, rude things.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_02: I couldn't even imagine why people would say that, even to a kid, right?
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_02: But you can't let that get to you because you have to stand with what you believe in.
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  SPEAKER_02: And if you know that you started that company because for me it would be because I wanted affordable jewelry out there, and people love the designs, people might not understand what you're saying or what you believe in, but you have to kind of show that with your company, and and even in real life, you have to show that with your friends and your family, what you believe in and what you want out there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I love that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I actually really love that because you know it it goes to show, like honestly, for you know, you're you're young, 16 years old, but you you it's almost like you know, this isn't your first rodeo.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, you have learned, you know, that it you you have to you have to play both sides of the fence sometimes, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like you have to be, you know, strong.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I I don't want to say weak, because I don't think weak is the right word, but sometimes you have to listen, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes you have to talk and you have to be heard, but sometimes you have to sit back and you listen.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's very clear that that's kind of where you are, where you've been, because I mean, you I mean, you said it, right?
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_01: If you want kids your age to be able to afford your your jewelry and feel the way you want them to feel, you have to sort of you know kind of back it down just a just a touch, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm I'm curious to know what does your jewelry look like?
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  SPEAKER_01: So I know that uh you said your um competition is is there in Saskatoon with you.
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  SPEAKER_01: I I know I have a few pieces from that company.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'd like to know what your like what makes your pieces different from that designer.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when I started, I seen a huge gap in the market with every jewelry.
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  SPEAKER_02: There was either low quality jewelry for low prices, or there was either high quality for high prices.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I wanted a low priced uh earring or necklace or so forth, but at a high quality.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we use a different clay, we use a waterproofing spray that goes over top of ours, which is very different.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we have different crystals, they're a little bit better.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when you put ours against other competitions, ours actually sparkle a little bit better.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's that waterproofing and the different crystals we use.
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  SPEAKER_02: And of course, that cost is more to have in production, but my goal wasn't to make lots off the jewelry.
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  SPEAKER_02: That was just not my goal in general.
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  SPEAKER_02: My goal was for girls my age to afford a pair, even girls like you or whoever's watching, but was for to inspire other people with the company.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_02: That's why I've been speaking at schools lately and I've been writing a magazine lately just to try to expand and show people what's possible.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_02: But sometimes when you're getting in business, some people get greedy over time and they don't really they watch the dollars over trying to help the community, and that's just not what I wanted.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, I love this.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love that because I think the world needs more of you.
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  SPEAKER_01: The world needs more people that are you know looking out for the general public and not just for their wallet.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: So I love that, and I wish you more than all of the success.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_01: Honestly, I think you know, you you you have a good business model, obviously.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's very clear to you, you know, but it's you're you lead with your heart.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think that you know, we need more of that in the world.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: So yes, thank you for that because it's nice to hear, right?
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_01: Especially from a young person.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's easy, you know, it's easy as you know, when I remember by now, okay, I went to high school many, many, many, many moons ago.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you know, there were there's always the dreamers, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: There's always that person, oh I'm gonna, I'm gonna be rich one day.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: And now every person defines rich differently, right?
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_01: What I you know, what I consider rich today, right, is not necessarily what I would have written defined rich as in high school.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: So as we grow and as we go through life, you know, that definition changes.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um more importantly, our dreams change, right?
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: Our dreams become, you know, what we think, oh, you know, I want to be rich one day becomes you know more of you know how I want to get rich.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: This is what I want to do with my life.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_01: This is who I want to, you know, make happy in my life.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I I wonder, like, you know, as as you are still navigating high school, right?
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_01: I wonder why navigating or advocating, I guess is a better word, for yourself.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um I mean, you have an a an important part of your entrepreneurship.
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  SPEAKER_01: So what I want to know is like, how do you advocate for yourself, you know, and still grow your dream?
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_02: For sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I think it really stems from having confidence back when I had my childhood, really, when I was very young.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_02: My parents were a little bit older when they had me.
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  SPEAKER_02: My dad was 51, my mom was in her late 30s, and I didn't have any siblings growing up because they were all older already.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I think growing up as a as a only child, basically, with older parents, you're always around adults, right?
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_02: All my family was in their 50s and their 60s already.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_02: Most of them have already passed by now.
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  SPEAKER_02: But when you grow up with adults, you kind of mature faster.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I was always like this.
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  SPEAKER_02: Even 10 years old, I was always, I was in my mom's makeup drawer, but I always had heels on, but I always looked a little bit older because I grew up with adults.
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  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't kind of like a regular kid.
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  SPEAKER_02: And even in school, I had lots of friends, of course, but I would mostly prefer to hang out with the EAs or with the teachers during recess because I felt like I understood them more.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_02: I wanted to connect with adults.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's what made me confident because in my childhood, my mom would always, you know, dress me up nice and so forth.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because, you know, when you have a little girl, you want to dress her up, but kids would also judge you, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Because you're not like the rest of the kids.
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  SPEAKER_02: But my mom kind of taught me not to worry about that and just to keep going on yourself and worry about yourself.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that confidence helped me when I entered high school because I didn't really worry about the outside noise.
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  SPEAKER_02: And when I went into high school, I had my company, I had billboards up when I went in there.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I also had that confidence behind with the business, right?
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I knew who I was, I knew what I wanted my company to be, and I knew who I wanted to be in general when I had school, when I had my personal life.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_02: So you also, I think it really stems from your childhood.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: If you grew up with confident parents and knew how to raise you and what to guide you with, you brought that into your high school.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_02: But not everybody has supportive parents like that, and not everybody will.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_02: And when you walk in there, and if you don't have that, it does get really tough.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_02: And it's probably very hard because you don't know how to navigate yourself through those situations.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_02: You haven't been, you know, told that or give advice about that.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_02: But sometimes even if you if you want to achieve something and if you want to keep going and you want to learn these things, sometimes you have to guide yourself.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_02: And if you have that vision, you can do it and you can learn from others, and you can even YouTube videos.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: That's why there's so many tutorials and there's so many different things, and coaching people and trainers of how to guide yourself through life, because there's not just a road that's A to C.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_02: There's so many different roads and avenues to go under, but you can learn and you can achieve what you want to, but you just have to have that little book behind you, even if that's a friend helping you, for example, or if that's a mentor or so forth, right?
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I think your advice there is to lean on the support that you have, right?
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: Trust in it, right?
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_02: And trust in yourself that you can guide yourself and you can learn from things that if you haven't been taught before, and you kind of just don't let the people judging you get to your learning and expanding your range into life because there's so many things to learn about.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: That is so wise.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: Honestly, that is so wise, and I'm so happy that you're sharing that because, well, it sounds to me like your parents did an excellent job in guiding you, you know, in your future.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I mean, you you know where you're going, right?
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you know where you're headed, right?
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: I I hope that you're gonna go into university and expand what you already know, right?
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: But the reality is you don't you probably don't even need to, right?
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: You're probably successful right now, you know, but it's always good to have like more dreams, right?
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like I want more, right?
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's good to have more, especially you're so young.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_02: So having more is like my dad, he always says to have a backup plan.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_02: So my goal is to do my undergrad in business in Calgary when I'm done high school and then go into medicine to be an MD doctor because my brother's a doctor, so that's my end goal.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_02: But like I like my dad said, if the company, let's say something doesn't work out or if it doesn't go well in 20 years, you can still practice as a medical doctor and you still have and you still have that degree.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_02: If you never use it in your life, you can still help others, you can still do something.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_02: But I think as well in life, we have to learn that nothing is forever anymore.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's not like how it was 50 years ago, where our grandparents or great-grandparents had jobs where if they were a nurse, they stayed a nurse for 70 years, and that's just how it is.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: Now, so many things are changing, so many things are going up, and things are happening around us that we couldn't even think that was imaginable 20 years ago.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_02: So we have to watch out for ourselves and guide ourselves through everything.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: And the thing is, once you know something, you know it.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: For sure.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: And you can help others.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: And you can use it in so many different ways, especially like a medical degree.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: Even if you don't have become a doctor and help patients, you can use it for your family.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like you're gonna eventually one day have a family, and that's knowledge that you can take into, you know, that experience, right?
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: So that's yeah, that's great.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_01: I always tell my kids too, you can, you know, you can have all the training in the world, right?
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_01: Doesn't mean you have to use it, but once you have it, you will never unknow it.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: So tell me, was there ever a moment in your journey up till now that you realize that I just cannot stay quiet about this?
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: I need to speak up.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'd like to know what happened and what did that experience teach you about your own strength.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_02: Well, when I first started my company, I was just selling off a Facebook marketplace.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_02: I was very, I was very scared about getting my name out there.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_02: I was scared about at first, I was scared who's gonna judge me, who's gonna see this, who's gonna want to get me in trouble, who's gonna so many things.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_02: You think about everybody and what they're gonna say.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_02: And you in your in your mind, you would probably have 5,000 possibilities, but in reality, there's only one that's gonna happen.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's probably not as bad as you think about.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_02: So I didn't want to get a website, I didn't want to get social media, I wanted to stay very small because I was very scared.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_02: But once I realized that people actually had positive reinforcement on me and actually loved my products, which helped, but also loved who I was and what I was creating for my very small brand at the time, I had that confidence to make those accounts.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_02: And then from there, when you get more positive reinforcement and when people kind of understand your goal that you have with your company and people love that, of course you're gonna have hate comments through them all, but if you're getting more positive comments from that, I wanted to do more.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_02: So I wanted to do interviews on media, I wanted Global News and CTV news and start doing different things and connecting with business owners and doing more shows all across Canada.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_02: When you have some support, even if it's not connected to you, even with customers, when you have that little bit of support, it makes you want to do more as well.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_02: And you feel more confident in to do that.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_01: That is so true.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: That is so true.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_01: I can see, like, I mean, I see you on the screen here.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: So I see your, you know, when you talk about it, it you get so excited, and that makes me even more excited.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_01: Now, you are building a national brand.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, tell me again what the name is.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's Chic and Charm Boutique.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: Sheik and Charmed.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_01: I think when I recorded your intro, I my my lips were a little bit rented, and so I didn't say it quite so clean, but Chic and Charmed.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: She I love it.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: Now, when you are exploring like your speaking opportunities and launching your own magazine, like you said, all before graduating high school, what would you say to the woman or the girl listening who has that same similar dream, but is still waiting to feel confident enough, qualified enough, or ready enough to speak up and go after it?
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_02: I think what you really have to tell is that you can't see an opportunity, but you have to take them when you kind of get them.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like, for example, I know the saying, there's a red car theory.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_02: When you know there's red cars driving by you, you'll see every one of them.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_02: But if you don't look for it, you'll they'll drive right past you.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_02: But you kind of have to see an opening and you have to just kind of go for it.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_02: And every interview I say, turn any no or maybe into a yes.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_02: Turn that thinking like, oh, maybe I'm not ready and do it anyways.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_02: I know it last year I took grade 11 psychology, I was in grade 10, and they actually taught you that you don't feel ready to do something unless you've done it twice.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_02: But how are you supposed to feel ready if you don't even do it once, right?
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_02: So you have to do it anyways and see how it goes.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: If you fail or you don't do something right and you make a mistake, that's perfect because you learned from that and that's life experience you'll have.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_02: But if it goes well and everything goes to what you think you'll go to and you do all amazing things, then it worked out how you wanted it to.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_02: So you can't lose when you take time into yourself and when you start to believe in yourself.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_02: But you kind of have to just kind of step back.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_02: And I think every time when we don't take an opportunity, it's due to what we think people around us will think.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_02: Because at the end of the day, when we think people aren't watching us, we do amazing things.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_02: It look online.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_02: We are so many people are doing amazing things online, but as soon as they think somebody's watching them, they don't want to do something.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_02: And I think you just have to kind of put a shutter around you and put a block up.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_02: Don't don't worry about who's gonna look and who's gonna think, just do it and just see how it goes.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_02: And it might go perfect and how you planned it.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: That is so amazing.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you're reminding me that really confidence doesn't necessarily come or mean that you never doubt yourself.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: You can still doubt yourself, but push yourself, right?
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like you like you said, if you don't do it, how are you gonna know you can?
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: And if you don't do it, how do you know that you you'll even want to, really?
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_01: You might do it the two or three times and go, yeah, I don't know if this is for me.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_02: It's all learning and you learn what you want.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_02: And what you want now is not what you're gonna want in five years, and I know that from experience.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_02: So you just have to try, and if it works and you want it, it'll come to you.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, absolutely.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: Is there anything that you would like our listeners to hear from you today?
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_02: I would.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_02: I always like to say in interviews and podcasts that when I started my company, my whole goal was to create affordable jewelry, of course, and to give back to the community.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_02: But when I started and when we started to make some money, my dad says you have to give back to the community in different ways.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_02: Not just taking money, but also giving it out.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_02: So every October, we donate 20% of proceeds to uh the Breast Cancer Awareness Association here at C95's radio channel, does the marathon, and we give always 20% from our rose opal studs that we unhooped and so forth.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: But when you start to make some money and you start to have a bigger community, you have to give back because it makes you feel good and you're also helping somebody.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for that.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for joining me today, Chanel.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_01: This has been so much fun.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I could chat for hours.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: I would love to know so much more about you.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_01: I think you're amazing, honestly.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_01: I think for the age that you're at, your dream is it's it's gonna take you places.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you so much for sharing that with us.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you so much for having me.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes confidence is simply deciding that your voice matters enough to be heard, even when you're nervous, even when someone disagrees, and even when you're the youngest person in the room.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's something we can all carry with us.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_01: If today's conversation made you think about where you might be shrinking, staying quiet, second guessing yourself, or putting your own voice at the bottom of the list, I invite you to pause and get curious about that.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: That's a big part of the work I do with women too.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_01: Helping them reconnect with their own voice, trust themselves, and move forward from a place of confidence rather than constant second guessing.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_01: You don't have to become someone else to become more confident.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it's just about coming back to you.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: And that is exactly what we do here at Confidence in Bloom.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: Because confidence isn't something we arrive at, it's something we grow.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: Until next time, keep blooming.
• 29:35
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• 29:36
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• 29:39
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