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Pirates conservative with SP, Bullpen Breakdown · Bucco Territory: A Pittsburgh Pirates Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everybody?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Bucko Territory, presented to
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  Speaker 2: you by the Foul Territory Network.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Noah Hiles.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me as always are my co host Josh Harrison
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  Speaker 2: and Platinum.
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  Speaker 1: Key a k a. Mark.
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  Speaker 2: The Pirates are set to begin a three game weekend
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  Speaker 2: series at Wrigley Field. We're gonna talk about the week
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  Speaker 2: that was leading up to this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Series in the Windy City.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about the pitching rotation, the starting rotation,
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  Speaker 2: some early polls mainly inspired by Mitch Keller getting the
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  Speaker 2: hook on on Yeah in Wednesday's Lossaudres.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the bullpen. Is it good? Is
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  Speaker 1: it bad? Do we know yet? Is it fair to
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  Speaker 1: know yet?
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  Speaker 2: And then we'll wrap up the show with our weekly segment,
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  Speaker 2: Jay Hay Now, which we do on every Friday show.
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  Speaker 2: Fellas before where we get started, you want to ask
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  Speaker 2: how are we doing today?
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing great?
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  Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: These City Connect jerseys that they just dropped, we're recording
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  Speaker 3: Thursday night. They are phenomenal. Uh you don't like them?
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  Speaker 4: Oh? I love them? I love them? What what's not
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  Speaker 4: the lack about them?
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  Speaker 2: Noah uh, I think like it looks like something.
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  Speaker 4: Or no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 5: I was gonna ask because obviously it's black. I was
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  Speaker 5: gonna say, is it because you know they already have
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  Speaker 5: a black jersey that could be No.
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  Speaker 1: I just I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I've never really had a problem with any jersey the
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  Speaker 2: Pirates have worn in my lifetime. I didn't even mind
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  Speaker 2: the red sleeveless ones that everyone made fun of, but
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  Speaker 2: this one, like, I don't I don't like the font.
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  Speaker 2: It it looks like, I don't know, it looks kind
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  Speaker 2: of tacky in my opinion. And I might be in
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  Speaker 2: the minority here, I get it, you know, I just
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  Speaker 2: is what it is. I mean, some people think I'm
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  Speaker 2: always hating on the Pirates, so I guess this is
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  Speaker 2: on my brand, right.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just glad that they have like a touch of red,
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  Speaker 3: like the Nike logo. There's like a couple of red accents.
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  Speaker 3: We haven't seen red in a uniform in a while,
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  Speaker 3: so that's pretty cool. And I do like the font.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, my one criticism is it seems like a
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  Speaker 3: connection to just Pirates and not the city of Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's We're not a city We're not a city,
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  Speaker 2: just on a pirate ship in the ocean.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I like the I like the old city connects like
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  Speaker 2: I like the yellow with the PGH.
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  Speaker 1: I thought those were sharp. Yeah, I just I like
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  Speaker 1: the bridge or.
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  Speaker 4: Something right, Yeah. Yeah, and the like faded.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they look better up close for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: These are my least favorite Pirate uniforms I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 2: On it a big objective here.
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  Speaker 4: So.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna ditch that topic. And on the on the
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  Speaker 2: note of ditching things early, we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 2: early pools. Mitch Keller was the subject of discussion Wednesday
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  Speaker 2: when he got the hook after a very efficient outing
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  Speaker 2: what was it five.
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  Speaker 3: Innings, markt six and.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, under eighty pitches through six innings. Mitch Keller, real
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  Speaker 2: quick has been the Pirates best player this year. Easy
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  Speaker 2: for all the talk about O'Neil Cruz, for all the
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  Speaker 2: talk about I mean you could throw Ryan O'Hearn out there,
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  Speaker 2: there have been some others as well.
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  Speaker 1: Mitch Keller through three starts, has a one earned run average.
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  Speaker 2: He and he has only got run support in one
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  Speaker 2: of his three starts.
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  Speaker 3: War, Yeah, pitching war is a little wacky, but he's
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  Speaker 3: he's crushing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Mitch gets the hook. The bullpen comes in,
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  Speaker 2: which we're going to talk about later, but justin Lawrence
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  Speaker 2: gets crushed.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: The Pirates battle back a little bit, but then things
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  Speaker 2: continue to get further out of hand.
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  Speaker 1: I think they what allowed five in the ninth inning
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  Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, it was good.
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  Speaker 2: So they went on to lose the game and the series,
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  Speaker 2: and there was some dialogue about should have should Keller
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  Speaker 2: have been allowed to stay in Mark?
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  Speaker 3: You have the pitching, Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You started this season. Yeah you look, I mean you
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  Speaker 1: take Paul out of the mix.
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  Speaker 2: And this is very consistent across the board, which I
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  Speaker 2: want to actually start off by asking, Josh, should it
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  Speaker 2: be this consistent? Should it kind of be across the
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  Speaker 2: board where hey, this is where every one of our
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  Speaker 2: arms they're all stretched to this length right now, or
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  Speaker 2: should it be a little bit more individual based, because
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  Speaker 2: it's hard to argue that it is anything about the
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  Speaker 2: individual right now.
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  Speaker 5: Of course it should be this consistent. Baseball asked for consistency. No,
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  Speaker 5: I'm just playing No, it really should not be this consistent.
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  Speaker 5: That right there, to me is telling me that you're
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  Speaker 5: going into the game already with a predetermined decision, and
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  Speaker 5: baseball has a funny way of making you, you know,
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  Speaker 5: kick yourself in the foot to say, oh, dang, I
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  Speaker 5: shouldn't have done that, because we've seen the time and
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  Speaker 5: time over again in some moments of you know, the
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  Speaker 5: biggest stage, even in the World Series where Blake Sneil
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  Speaker 5: got pulled due to you know, analytics and early part
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  Speaker 5: of the year. I don't know if you know, I
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  Speaker 5: get it. You want to protect guys, you know, workload
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  Speaker 5: and watch. You know, we don't want to blow you
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  Speaker 5: out in April to not have you in October. But
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  Speaker 5: because as I said, there's gonna be differences from spring
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  Speaker 5: training to the start of season. Everybody's going in a
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  Speaker 5: warm climate. You go start the season, sometimes you start
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  Speaker 5: in the cold climate, and a lot of people don't
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  Speaker 5: realize that it takes a lot more out of you
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  Speaker 5: to stay warm in those coder games. So you can
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  Speaker 5: also understand why some you know, managers may be apprehensive
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  Speaker 5: to say, you know what, you haven't pitched in this
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  Speaker 5: dry condition for the past six weeks, like, you know what,
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  Speaker 5: you gave us five six innings. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 5: a lot of the gut instinct in my opinion for
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  Speaker 5: baseball has been taken away within the past ten years.
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  Speaker 5: It's a safe answer. It's a safe play because, yes,
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  Speaker 5: you have an analytic department that gives you this information,
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  Speaker 5: and yes it makes sense early part of April, you
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  Speaker 5: don't want to over extend guys.
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  Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, a.
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  Speaker 5: Loss in April can also prevent you from a playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, contention.
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  Speaker 5: Don't just look at the last month to where all
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  Speaker 5: man that lost in September. No, it could be a
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  Speaker 5: potential loss in April that was a bad loss based
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  Speaker 5: off of you know, non situational heading or bad defense.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you know, miscommunication in the field. So I
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  Speaker 5: don't think it needs to be this consistent. Yes, you
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  Speaker 5: can go in with a plan, but plans changed because
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  Speaker 5: I mean six innings had seventy five pitches. I mean
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  Speaker 5: that's what the other team is hoping. Man, it's duds,
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  Speaker 5: cruise and please get him out. You can bring somebody
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  Speaker 5: coming in throwing two million. We got a better chance
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  Speaker 5: of facing who's out there right now, because sometimes when
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  Speaker 5: the pitcher's in a zone, the one thing that a
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  Speaker 5: hitting you know, a team wants is you know, just
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  Speaker 5: give us a fresh look. Somebody different. I don't even
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  Speaker 5: care who it is. It's just somebody different because this
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  Speaker 5: dude has our number. So should it be that consistent? No,
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  Speaker 5: But at the same time you understand protecting it. But
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  Speaker 5: you also got to go with your gut instinct and
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  Speaker 5: watch the game and say, you know what, let me
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  Speaker 5: let me ask my guy. Mitch is in a rookie.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Mitch's been around, so that's where you also
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  Speaker 5: how you feel I'm good unless Mitch was like, no,
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  Speaker 5: I'm good, and you understand that. But seventy five pitches,
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  Speaker 5: six innings, that's almost that's something that you might baby
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  Speaker 5: somebody that's like a young guy that's really a rookie,
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  Speaker 5: but not not a guy that's under contract that you're
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  Speaker 5: expecting to go eat innings and help you win ball games.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think what this basically shows me is
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  Speaker 3: there's a big concern in the Pirates organization about their
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  Speaker 3: pitching depth, where they are being as cautious as possible
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  Speaker 3: with who they have in the starting rotation right now,
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  Speaker 3: not to over extend them in any way. Just like
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  Speaker 3: looking at who's available in Triple A and DY, there's
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  Speaker 3: not a lot of the starters that you're too confident in.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you have Hunter Barco in the pen that
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  Speaker 3: you could stretch out and maybe move into the rotation.
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  Speaker 3: But we'll touch on Hunter Barco here in a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: So Yeah, it's just that apprehension is a little worrying.
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  Speaker 3: I guess you have, like Clevenger, you could stretch out
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  Speaker 3: your Kidi, but aren't exactly the same options that you're
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  Speaker 3: getting right now out of this starting five. But no,
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  Speaker 3: what are you thinking about this? I mean I'm interested.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a couple thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with Josh for the most part, where if
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  Speaker 2: there's one person, I think there are two people where
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  Speaker 2: I mean you, I think it's fine to go into
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  Speaker 2: a game. It's fine to go into a game with
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  Speaker 2: a plan. Like I don't necessarily love the idea of
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  Speaker 2: having no plan at all for a starting pitcher, especially
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  Speaker 2: this early in the year, right, Like I don't love
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  Speaker 2: the idea of having the option to let a guy
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  Speaker 2: throw one hundred and twenty pitches in the month of April.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that's smart because I think that just
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  Speaker 2: goes into forget like long term planning, which is also
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  Speaker 2: very important. I just don't think that's good for productivity.
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  Speaker 2: You're you're not gonna have your best stuff that deep
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  Speaker 2: into a ballgame. However, I'm looking at Mitch Keller's pitch
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  Speaker 2: counts in April last year. So his first start of
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  Speaker 2: the season last year was on March twenty eighth. He
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  Speaker 2: threw eighty six pitches there, and then he made five
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  Speaker 2: starts in April. The pitch counts were ninety seven, ninety six,
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  Speaker 2: one oh five, one oh one eighty nine.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, so different. Yeah, it's compared to yeah, this, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Compared to this now.
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  Speaker 4: One guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, I will say this, you could contend that,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what, what's the one flaw of Mitch Keller? Mark,
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  Speaker 2: What is the one thing that people will say prevents
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  Speaker 2: Mitch Keller from being much better than what he is overall?
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  Speaker 3: I mean I was thinking, just like back in the day,
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  Speaker 3: he could never get out of the first inning. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's not that, what are you thinking.
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  Speaker 2: It's that he doesn't have he does not perform as
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  Speaker 2: well in the second half of the season, right, So
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  Speaker 2: maybe they're keeping.
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  Speaker 1: That in mind.
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  Speaker 2: And if that is their approach with Mitch, then I'm
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  Speaker 2: fine with this. If their thought is analytically, Hey, we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna build you up a little slower, not because we're
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  Speaker 2: treating you like Bubba and Braxton, whose workloads we're going
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  Speaker 2: to have to manage all year, but because we want
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  Speaker 2: you to kind of build up a little slower so
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  Speaker 2: you can probably be feeling better come August, because if
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  Speaker 2: you look at your track record, August has been a
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  Speaker 2: horrible month for Mitch Keller in twenty twenty four and
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. I even think he regressed a little
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  Speaker 2: bit in August twenty twenty three as well, So that
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  Speaker 2: might be the reason behind this, And I hope that
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  Speaker 2: that's the reasoning behind this, because if they just have
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  Speaker 2: a strict staff wide pitch count right now, I don't
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  Speaker 2: like that at all, because there's a lot of difference
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  Speaker 2: between a pitcher like Mitch Keller, who has never had
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  Speaker 2: an arm injury, who has been in the major leagues
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  Speaker 2: since twenty nineteen, who has been an All Star, is
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  Speaker 2: a guy who is consistently shown to be capable of
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  Speaker 2: throwing one hundred and eighty if not more innings in
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  Speaker 2: a major league season. There's a lot different than that
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  Speaker 2: compared to someone like Karma Majinski who's never had a
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  Speaker 2: full year as a major league starter, Bubba Chandler, who's
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  Speaker 2: never had a full major league season, Braxton Ashcraft, who's
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  Speaker 2: never thrown, you know, a ton of innings in a
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  Speaker 2: season due to injuries throughout his professional development.
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  Speaker 1: So that's my question.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not accusing the Pirates of doing one or
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  Speaker 2: the other because I don't have the answer to that.
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  Speaker 2: I would just hope that because when you look at
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  Speaker 2: that on the surface, like what Mark showed, it looks
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  Speaker 2: like everyone's kind of being handled the same way. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that that's the best way to go
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  Speaker 2: about it in my professional opinion. And I'm not a
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  Speaker 2: baseball coach, I'm just a baseball writer, but I think
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  Speaker 2: that it's good to have guardrails to a certain extent,
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  Speaker 2: but the guardrails should be catered to the individual, not
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  Speaker 2: the collective whole.
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  Speaker 1: I think that that's.
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  Speaker 2: Something that prohibited pitching from maximizing its abilities. When Josh
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  Speaker 2: was playing for the Pirates. They treated everyone the same
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  Speaker 2: a little too much. And I think the Pirates do
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  Speaker 2: a really good job overall when it comes to pitching development.
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  Speaker 2: They've done a solid job. I think, for the most part,
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  Speaker 2: finding a good way to keep most of their guys healthy.
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  Speaker 1: I like how they've brought some certain guys up in
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  Speaker 1: the system.
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  Speaker 2: I've been vocal about, you know, my support on slow
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  Speaker 2: cooking guys as I've termed it, and the way they've
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  Speaker 2: handled schemes and some of the other guys, the way
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  Speaker 2: they progress them. I think they've done more right than wrong.
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  Speaker 2: But there have been some changes into that pitching room
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  Speaker 2: in this offseason, and this is coach Murphy's first year
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  Speaker 2: overseeing things, and I'll be curious to see the individualization
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  Speaker 2: of this plan because it's too early, I think to
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  Speaker 2: make any draw any conclusions because everyone's only made a
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  Speaker 2: couple of starts. But the data that we're seeing now
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  Speaker 2: looks like everyone's being treated the same. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 2: that that's the case, but if it is, I don't
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  Speaker 2: like it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Joah, no, no, no, I honestly am with you.
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  Speaker 5: And it was going to lead into our next category,
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  Speaker 5: to be honest, because they tie hand in hand, because
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  Speaker 5: you even brung up the whole thing, Noah, of yes,
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  Speaker 5: I have experienced the whole you know, spill of pitch
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  Speaker 5: starting pitchers not going past ninety pitches. I want to
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  Speaker 5: believe it was twenty twelve. It was actually an issue
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  Speaker 5: that we had amongst our team and the staff that
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  Speaker 5: you know, couple veterans you know, took it upon themselves
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  Speaker 5: to talk to the you know, coaching staff about it
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  Speaker 5: because it's one of those things where bullpen phones are loud.
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  Speaker 4: Man, and we.
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  Speaker 5: Would get eighty you know, our STARTU would be at
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  Speaker 5: eighty pitchers and you did and you know, guys getting
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  Speaker 5: the ball back from the picture, catching it and looking
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  Speaker 5: over and the dug aut like, man, I'm at eighty pitches.
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  Speaker 5: That was my first pitch of the sixth inning, and
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  Speaker 5: sure enough, first pitch might be ball wanted get somebody up,
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  Speaker 5: and it's like, you know, it gets to a point
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  Speaker 5: to where the catcher and the picture goes. Man, you
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  Speaker 5: want us to go out there and do a job.
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  Speaker 5: Like at some point you have to trust us. You know,
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  Speaker 5: we've gotten through these first seventy five.
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  Speaker 4: Eighty pitches and I get it.
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  Speaker 5: You get closer to that one hundred, it does gets
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  Speaker 5: you to wear. Okay, fatigue sets in focused, but how
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  Speaker 5: do you expect the guy to learn to pitch in
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  Speaker 5: those moments if you're holding him back from that moment,
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  Speaker 5: and then you get the August or September where yes,
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  Speaker 5: you might have wanted him to be fresh, but he
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  Speaker 5: hasn't mentally been in that situation to pitch deep in
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  Speaker 5: the game. Because we have said, let's hold on to
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  Speaker 5: this book, which leads to the bullpen trust. When you're
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  Speaker 5: taking when you're taking starters out early in the season
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  Speaker 5: as seventy five eighty pitches, that means you're going to
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  Speaker 5: your bullpen a lot. And yes, your bullpen may have
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  Speaker 5: a lot of success early on, but what happens at
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  Speaker 5: the end of the season that bullpen gets overused. But
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  Speaker 5: then now you're wanting starters to go deeper. What if
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  Speaker 5: the starter has a bad start, rough start? Right now
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  Speaker 5: you're going to the bullpen to go to a guy
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  Speaker 5: that might have been a little bit more used than
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  Speaker 5: he probably should have been. Because in April we didn't
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  Speaker 5: let Mitch Keller go out for the seventh inning at
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  Speaker 5: seventy five pitches. You know he's got you know, two
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  Speaker 5: more up downs just based off of our you know,
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  Speaker 5: if it is an eighty to ninety pitch woman, So
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  Speaker 5: that bullpen trust, I don't think it messages with your
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  Speaker 5: bullpen trust. But what it does is sometimes those early
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  Speaker 5: pools lead to bullpen trust because now you have guys
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  Speaker 5: pitching in situations that's like, oh yes, I can come
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  Speaker 5: in after mixtures through six shuddy with seventy five. But
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  Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, whoever come in and follow that is
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  Speaker 5: in some tough shoes because that offense is taking a
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  Speaker 5: deep breath, like, all right, we got this dude out
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  Speaker 5: of here, you know, and you see it time and
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  Speaker 5: time again. It might be somebody come in as the
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  Speaker 5: nastiest dude out the pen and he gives it up
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  Speaker 5: because it's like, I don't care, you might be nasty,
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  Speaker 5: but whatever he had today is just it was our kryptonite.
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  Speaker 5: So in the bullpend, you're gonna keep going to you
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  Speaker 5: guys because starting pitching is what you need. That is
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  Speaker 5: definitely that comes at a premium because I mean, realistically,
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  Speaker 5: bullpen guys, that's why you see them rotate.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: Guys go in and out. Somebody's coming up, somebody's going
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: down there. You know.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: It's the easiest to play with the roster as far
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: as when you need an extra guy, when you need
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: another arm. But at the same time, the bullpen trusts
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: some guys are gonna be in situations that they're not
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: used to. So then now that overuse and then that's
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: why I said, going from that starter to the bull
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: kind of tied end.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: So I know there was a lot to kind of
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: wrap around, but I lived it.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: And when you bring that up, no, it kind of
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: segueyed into me hitting into that bullpen trucks, because I
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: mean those guys sometimes are you know out there in
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: the situation where was like, there's a lot of guys
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: that I played with that never went back to back
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: days and they get to the big leagues and they
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: didn't do back to back. They went back to back
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: to back, and I mean they were baltlin. But come
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: July August, that one up that he comes up. Now
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: he's getting hit because the sinker ain't sinking as much.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: Is split is flat, his slider's flat, and it's like
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: he's not doingything different. He just got a little bit
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: more used, a little bit more adrenaline in the situation
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: where you don't get the cinemato leagues.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just looking at their bullpen.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: To me, the story right now is it's a bullpen
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: of the haves and have nots. You have a handful
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: of guys who are lights out, and I don't think
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: it's very difficult to figure it out right now. You look,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, Dennis Santana's money, he has been since he
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: arrived here, Gregory Soto's been really good, Isaac Mattson has
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: been really good, and Johann Ramirez has been really good.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: So that that's four, and then the.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Other four you're getting into a little shaky territory. I mean,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: i'll call a spata s bae. Justin Lawrence has not
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: been good at all this year. Jose Orkeaty has not
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: been good at all this year. Hunter Barco has been
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: bad for the most part this year. And Mason Montgomery,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say he's in that group, but he's been inconsistent.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, when he's looked good, he's looked really damn good,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: and when he's looked bad, he's looked like the others.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: The problem also with some of this is normally the bullpen,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: like Josh said, is constructed where you have guys with
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: minor league options who can go up and down. That's
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: not necessarily the case versus Pat Arkety's out of options.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Lawrence is out about options and Ramirez is out of options.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: You're not optioning Santana, you're not optioning Soto, and you're
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: not optioning Mattson. So who does that leave. That leaves
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Montgomery and Barco.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Those are two lefties.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so and and and you could say Soto's
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: a lefty.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: He obviously is, but he's a leverage guy. So I
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: mean it's he's a lefty, but like in reality, he's.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Your eighth or ninth inning guy, Like he's he's not
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: a If it's three straight lefties coming up to bat
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: in the sixth inning, you're probably not pitching Gregory Soto there.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: So they're kind of in a tough spot with how
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: they address these issues if they move forward, because someone's
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: either going to have to get DFA or start playing better.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: And I'll throw it over to Mark, I mean, what
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: do you make.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Of the current layout of this bullpen, because like I said,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's a lot of good but also a
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: lot of bat.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's super top heavy. If you can make it
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: to the eighth with you're going to be great. And
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: that's a great feeling. How your bullpen it's that fifth
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: through So I've been.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Thinking if you make it to the seventh, you're good.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, with Mattson and then Soto and Santana and
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: whatever order. Yeah, and so you're feeling good about the
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: back end of that. Obviously, those guys can't pitch every
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: single game, so maybe day by day you might be
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: a little more apprehensive. But yeah, the Justin Lawrence has
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: been a disappointment. His fastball has been pretty bad, and
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: he just can't keep the sweeper in the zone and
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: when he does, he has been hanging it. Yeah, both
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: of those home runs in Wednesday's game were off of
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: his sweeper, which moves like crazy. It's an awesome pitch
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: when he's on. But yeah, we didn't see people hit
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: that like that last year, so that's a little bit
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: of the concern. Mason Montgomery, he's at least limited his walks.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: He only has four walks this year, but he's given
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: up seven hits, so he has like a two point
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: three to six whip right now, so that's a little concerning.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: And Hunter Barco just hasn't really felt like he's settled
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: in yet. Yeah, where you can see like you'll see
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: the the brief glimpses of oh, that's that's some good stuff, Like,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I he's pitching well all that, but yeah, he's given
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: up three home runs and h walked five and giving
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: up seven hits, and that's a that's a tough line, uh,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: this early in the season. So hopefully he gets a
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: little bit more comfy. But yeah, I just the back
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: or like the that lower portion of the bullpen is
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: a little concerning, and I don't know about like if
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: there's really any options in triple A that I mean,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: there's like Evan sisk Is another lefty who's down there
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: right now. Uh not my top option, uh, Brandon Bidoit
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: uh or beat Us. I think it's Badoa just got
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: added to the forty man, I think, right, and has
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: some really really nasty stuff like analytics nerds love him.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean there's limited options, but like
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: you said, like, if we're giving up on these guys,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: they're going to be DF eight And yeah, I don't
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: know if you're ready to DFA Justin Lawrence or anyone
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: else yet.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: So and it kind of ties back to the early
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: point where it's like, oh, well, you have a really
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: good back end of the bullpen, if only you could
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: avoid having to rely on your middle relief this month.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Right, if only there was a way, Yeah yeah.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: If only you could let guys throw like ten to fifteen.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe let's not get crazy here, Josh, yeah.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I And again, like I don't necessarily hate the idea
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: of having a quick cook for some of these guys,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Like like you look at like some abobb A Chandler outings,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: some Abubba Chandler's outings, for example, like he didn't throw
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: a lot of pitches, but when you're seventy ish pitches
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: into a game and you've already issued five walks, like yeah, yeah, man,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: like it might yes, yeah, right, And like the reality
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: is their best middle reliever is a story right now.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Carbon Maginsky moving into the position that Hunter Barco is
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: in makes this team better. So they kind of just
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: got to hold it down until Jared Jones is back,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I guess, or maybe Jared Jones is gonna pitch in
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: relief too. I mean, Ben Sherrington kind of talked about
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: earlier this week about how they're gonna have to get
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: creative on how everyone's used. So I think there are
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: a couple of guys who could be those tweener guys.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: But when I look at this bullpen. I mean you
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: look at the metrics, a lot of stuff they rank
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: in like toward the middle or just past the middle.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: In the league, eighteenth.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: In RLA War, Yeah, seventeenth, and left on base percentage
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: their fifth worst. And fly ball to home run ratio,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: which just shows that like when they're getting barreled, it's
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: not ending well. Yeah, and they're they're allowing they're striking
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: out a lot of guys. So like that's kind of
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: the scouting report coming out of camp is like there
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: is nasty stuff here, but it's just not gelling all
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: the way and I'm curious to see what they do.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: It makes me wonder, like is it worth bringing up
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: like a Mic Clevenger to pitch out of the pen
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: who can cover multiple Yeah, like it you can option
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Barco down. You would have to create a forty man
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: roster spot for Clevenger.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: But it's it's it's stuff like that.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Or maybe they go dumpster diving again, like we've seen
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: them do that mid season plenty of times, where they
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: go waiver wire shopping and they find a guy with
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: nasty stuff and sometimes it doesn't work, but sometimes you
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: find a den of Santana and like This is an
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: organization who has I still think a very good pitching
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: group that's there.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: That's their calling card.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: They recognize traits of good pictures and sometimes it works
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: and sometimes it doesn't. But when you look like you
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: look back to the trade that was made in March,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I think Kyle Nicholas would be a nice piece in
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: this bullpen right now. As opposed to Tyler Callahan, who
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: is in Indianapolis, like he didn't even make the team
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: despite having a spot wide open for him at third base.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Kyle Nicholas would be helping this team probably win more
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: games right now.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just interesting.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: It feels like, you know, Mark, you mentioned you're worry
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: about the starting depth. I personally think the bullpen depth
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: is a bigger concern. I think that's a spot where
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: they're going to have to start making additions, probably before
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: the month ends. And I'm not saying, like, you know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: go out and trade prospects or anything, but you need
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: to start looking at what else is available because if
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: your best options, I mean, Bedoir is an interesting player,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: but he is not proven at all, so like you
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: need someone who's at least been in the show a
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: little bit if guys like Barco and Montgomery, who they
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: have options, those are your only two guys really who
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: can be up down guys unless you want to start
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: dfaming people and.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: The right Yeah, and would you bring Thomas Harrington up.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: That's the name I overlooked when we talked about the
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: starters as far as depth. You know, so there are
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: arms in the system, but.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, as you said, if there are arms, but
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: at the same time, if you're not gonna get them
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: into the six seventh and.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Then you relying a lot on the bullpen.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: And through these first twelve games, as you said, no
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: other sample size, they got some strikeouts, but when they're
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: in the owner getting hit really hard. So maybe, you know,
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: some things change. Baseball is a funny game. Maybe some
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: of that hard contact turns into the outs, or maybe
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: they can limit the hard contact, which is what every
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: pitcher is trying to do. But as you said, something's
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: that you can't go to the end of the month
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: with these same type of bullpen walls because you can't
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: have good starting performances and then not.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Be able to get to the back end of the bullpen.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: You got to be able to lost. You have to
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: be able to bridge that gap.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: All right, Josh.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: For reference, Kyle Nicholas is in triple A right now
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: for Indianapolis or for Cincinnati.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that would be Louisville. He is.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: He's pitched four times, he has a two o eight
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: earned run average over four and a third inning, he
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: struck out seven. So I think it would be safe
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: to say, I know those are triple A numbers, but
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: like Kyle Nicholas would be a better option than some
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: of the guys on this team right now.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: He just would be.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: So we'll see if Tyler Callahan can ever provide that
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: type of value.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Jay, now, all right, bring a nice little into
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: the segment. Jay Hay was gonna just rip the wave
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: of this past opening week m pn C. You know,
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: it started with opening day kind of griff and making
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: you know, his debut, and the Pirates going on to
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: win that and having a nice opening stand and uh,
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: you know, closing it off with you know, announcing the
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: contract extension with Connor. But it's not just about Connor's
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: about the Pirates and just one riding that momentum of
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: you know, to start to the opening of the season.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: They had a great opening stand. You know, I know
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: we've talked about the starting pitching and bullpen and whatnot,
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: but overall, I thought it was a really good job
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: on the Pirates.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: So my jay now was for the.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: Pirates, the team in general, but you know, even throwing
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: a little bit to the organization being able to you know,
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: put this behind. You know, all the media, I know
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: them in general, and not only just Connor, but the
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: Pirates themselves. Are you know, glad to know that, you know,
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: this contract is done, there's no more What are the
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: Pirate's gonna do with Connor? And you know now it's
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: you know, rite that momentum in Pirates keep rocking. So
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: my jay hay now was a great week, great opening
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: week from start to end. Great vibes. Havn't been there,
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: but I can feel the energy, you know, just tuning
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: in and watching things. So that's my that's my kudos
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: for you know, this.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Segment and just to kind of show that what the
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: momentum is like with the fan base and everything right now.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Uh with the City Connect release. I was talking to
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: a friend who lives in Pittsville. Yeah, he went and
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: got he wanted to go get one of the City
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Connect jerseys, and he waited twenty five minutes just to
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: get into the team store, which is just it's ten
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: am off day. There's no like, there's no game even
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: this weekend. They're in Chicago. Pirates fans are lined up
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: twenty five minutes outside PNC Park on a Thursday afternoon
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: just for a jersey release that Noah hates and says sucks.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: It does now the rest of our merch is pretty sick.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I am not going to sit here and say that,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Like I like, objectively speaking, the Pirates black and gold
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: is a sweet color scheme and most of their jerseys
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: are cool. I just think the City Connectors, I love them.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I just don't like.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they look really good on AJP. That was pretty sweet. Yeah,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: that video was awesome. If you guys listen haven't seen
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: that yet, go check out the Pirates social release. Great
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: job sterling on that.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to build off what Mark was saying though real quick. Yeah,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: as much as I just like, you know, the City
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Connect jerseys, and I do feel like we've been pretty
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: critical on this show just of like, you know, the
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: pitching and just kind of highlighting certain things. I do
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: want to take time to say, like, it is more
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: positive around this team than I've ever seen it.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, I.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Remember being at the ballpark when Kutch came back in
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: twenty three. Obviously, I covered the team in twenty four
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: when they bought it the deadline and they were a
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: couple of games away from the playoffs. I covered the
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: team towards the tail end of Josh's time there when
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: they were competing as well.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: But it just it is a little different. I mean,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: they're doing things that fans.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Have wanted to see them do for a very long
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: time for most of my life, honestly, going out and
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: getting all stars through trades, through free agency, promoting guys
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: who can help you win now rather than messing around
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: with some service time nonsense, and then identifying someone who
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: you think can help when you win now and in
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: the future and securing that Like that's that's building a core.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: That's what winning teams do.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: So I give them kudos for that, Like they've earned
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: all this goodwill. Now what advantages because everyone's wearing an
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: ugly city connection. I'm not gonna feel bad for that, No,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: But in all seriousness, I mean, this team does I
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: think have flaws. I still maintain that, Like, you know,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: it was a good homestand, but I think that homestand
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: is gonna be reflective of what we're gonna see this season.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: When they're good, they're gonna look really good and they're
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: gonna be fun to watch. And when they're bad, it's
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: gonna be ugly baseball. It's gonna make pull your hair out.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: That's kind of how this team looks right now now.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: If certain guys develop certain ways, if certain you know
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: players outperform, if certain guys stay healthy, if certain guys
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: come back healthy, they're gonna be a better team, and
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: they might even be a playoff team. But at the
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: very least, like they've earned this goodwill. They've earned everyone's
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: right to be excited. They've earned that line, that twenty
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: minute weight line at the team store on a Thursday
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: on an off day in early April, Like they've earned that,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: and kudos to them that people like at this point
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: of the season last year, people were already checked out,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: which is crazy to say, But in April ninth last year,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: we were talking about bricks and an advertiser. Yeah, because
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: the baseball was so bad, no one even cared, right,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I mean and Manuel Valdez, a guy who just got
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: DFAED was.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Like hitting clean up for this team last year at
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: this point. So they have come a long way.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: They deserve that praise, and it's nice that now, like
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: when we're criticizing them, we're talking about like, Okay, well
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: it be good enough to make the playoffs.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Or will it be good enough to just get by?
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: As opposed to last year where we're at anytime I
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: would provide an outsis it's like I just don't see
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: how this is going to be sustained for a week.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, expectations are completely different.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's why there's the vibes with the cone,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: the welder's hat, you know, the Connor Griffin mania, all
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: of it. Like all this is earned and so kudos
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: to the Pirates for putting it all together.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: All right, just a little final thoughts, Josh, you have anything.
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  Speaker 4: Covered with now? Yeah, So if y'all got anything, y'all
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  Speaker 4: fire away.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'll just remind everyone, if you're listening thirty minutes
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  Speaker 3: have some merch available in our team store. We got
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  Speaker 3: the hoodies, the t shirts, everything suggested last week. You know,
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  Speaker 3: if you want to really bring your cone in a
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  Speaker 3: nice bag, we got a Duffel bag. Show up to
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  Speaker 3: the ballpark, rock in your cone like that. Noah, any
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  Speaker 3: final thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: No, not at all. I appreciate the solo camera.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, may have miss clicked.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's Josh Harrison.
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  Speaker 1: He's applied to key A k A Mark.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Noah Haile, signing off saying thanks for tuning in
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