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- 0:29What's going on, everybody?
- 0:30Welcome to Sunday, Sunday,
- 0:32Sunday night CrossFit talk.
- 0:36I'm really not that in a good mood.
- 0:40I'm trying to play that on TV.
- 0:45Why are you not in a good mood, Scott?
- 0:47Please expand.
- 0:48Because Hail Mary should be
- 0:50outlawed in the NFL.
- 0:55my beloved Chicago Bears,
- 0:56who should not have won the game.
- 0:57Let me put that out first.
- 0:59Somehow their quarterback
- 1:01came alive in the fourth quarter.
- 1:05They got ahead because their
- 1:06defense had kept them in
- 1:07the game the whole time.
- 1:09And then with twenty three seconds left,
- 1:13Jane Daniels hit a couple
- 1:15of short passes and then
- 1:17threw a fifty two yard Hail Mary.
- 1:21To beat my beloved Chicago
- 1:22Bears with no time remaining.
- 1:25It was like perfectly caught in his hands.
- 1:27He just stood there behind
- 1:29all of the people.
- 1:30It just went bounce and present.
- 1:33So the Bears have a lot of
- 1:34players on their team that
- 1:35are six foot tall or taller.
- 1:38Why do they put their five
- 1:39foot nine guys back there
- 1:42to knock down the ball?
- 1:43Oh.
- 1:47knock it down the poor guy
- 1:49jumped as high as he could
- 1:50and all he could do was
- 1:51touch it and all it did was
- 1:53tip it up for the guy in
- 1:54the back of the end zone to
- 1:55catch it so frustrated but
- 2:07I have a rookie quarterback
- 2:08on my team that looks like
- 2:10he's coming alive,
- 2:11looks like he's learning a lot,
- 2:13and hopefully will be very
- 2:15good very soon.
- 2:17Just have to get through his
- 2:20growing pains.
- 2:24On another note,
- 2:26you and I made a
- 2:27last-minute bet that I
- 2:29wasn't even going to make
- 2:29bets on my teams anymore
- 2:31because I kept losing them all.
- 2:33And so I just decided I
- 2:34wasn't going to do it.
- 2:35And you sent me a last-minute bet.
- 2:40And my Penn State Nittany
- 2:42Lions went into Madison, Wisconsin,
- 2:46and beat the Wisconsin Badgers.
- 2:49I had a good feeling.
- 2:50I was like, it's at Camp Randall.
- 2:52We always get this one big
- 2:54win every year against a
- 2:55top-ranked opponent.
- 2:58And I just had a good feeling.
- 3:00And they started off fine,
- 3:01and then we lost it.
- 3:05Yeah,
- 3:05you had me worried when our
- 3:06quarterback went out at halftime,
- 3:09but the backup played as well,
- 3:11if not better.
- 3:16And yeah,
- 3:17super stoked for how they played.
- 3:19Now,
- 3:20who are we going to have against Ohio
- 3:22State next week when that's
- 3:24going to be tough?
- 3:26But that game's at home,
- 3:27so hopefully... Because I
- 3:30live in Columbus.
- 3:30Losing that Ohio State game
- 3:32is awful for me every year.
- 3:34And Penn state loses it.
- 3:36Eighty percent of the time.
- 3:38So I was hoping this year
- 3:40would be different.
- 3:43That's going to be a tough game to win.
- 3:46Yeah.
- 3:47Although they,
- 3:47Ohio state looked terrible yesterday.
- 3:50I didn't,
- 3:50I didn't get to watch their game.
- 3:52They play.
- 3:53So I was at a friend of ours.
- 3:55They had a twenty fifth
- 3:56wedding anniversary yesterday.
- 3:58So I was at their house and
- 3:59they had the game on.
- 4:00They looked they Ohio State
- 4:03looked terrible for the
- 4:05highest paid team in college football.
- 4:07They did not live up to that for sure.
- 4:12I wonder,
- 4:13I don't know what they played
- 4:14yesterday afternoon.
- 4:16Yeah, noon, the noon game.
- 4:18Lex and I,
- 4:19I think we were doing like an
- 4:22obstacle course.
- 4:25Oh, I have that on my agenda,
- 4:27my private agenda.
- 4:27I think that was during the game,
- 4:28so we didn't get to watch it.
- 4:29We were playing, having fun.
- 4:33Julian Iford says Penn State
- 4:35is winning it this year.
- 4:36Ohio State sucks.
- 4:37I'll take that.
- 4:41But anyway, our bet was death by burpees.
- 4:44Oh, originally.
- 4:45No, no.
- 4:45What was it originally?
- 4:46Death by assault bike.
- 4:48Yeah.
- 4:50But you said, I wish it was burpees.
- 4:51And I said,
- 4:52I would take death by burpees
- 4:53as a substitute.
- 4:54Yeah.
- 4:56So at some point this week,
- 4:59we'll see Carolyn do some
- 5:00death by burpees.
- 5:02And I think that's the first
- 5:03sports bet I've won on this show.
- 5:07ever so I will take that as
- 5:09a win because everything
- 5:10else seems like it's
- 5:11falling apart um tonight
- 5:13for me and jamie's probably
- 5:15smiling because their lions
- 5:19lost their beat or whatever
- 5:21the lions killed in their
- 5:23game and now they're
- 5:25another game ahead of the bears yeah um
- 5:33Carolyn,
- 5:33you mentioned that you were doing
- 5:36something yesterday,
- 5:37so I'm going to show that
- 5:39because I wanted to ask you.
- 5:41I know you've tried High Rocks this year.
- 5:44Now are you going American Ninja Warrior?
- 5:48No.
- 5:48I do like playground stuff like this,
- 5:49though.
- 5:53So is it like a ninja gym or
- 5:54just like a playground?
- 5:56It's called obstacle course.
- 5:57I think it's called pursuit,
- 5:59but it's like an obstacle course.
- 6:01There's a bunch of things like that.
- 6:03Like we probably didn't film like three,
- 6:05I mean, eighty percent of it.
- 6:08But I was a little sore this morning.
- 6:10I hadn't done some of that
- 6:11stuff in a while.
- 6:14Can I say?
- 6:14Yeah.
- 6:15Lex found it yesterday for
- 6:16an activity to do.
- 6:17I did the salmon ladder.
- 6:19That was fun.
- 6:20How did that salmon ladder go?
- 6:22I would often get one side.
- 6:26so I was like not pulling evenly.
- 6:28The bar was thicker than the
- 6:30one I had done before.
- 6:32Um,
- 6:34but I didn't want to commit too much to
- 6:38that one.
- 6:38I don't want to fall back.
- 6:39And like, I was like,
- 6:41I was being cautious in
- 6:42what I was doing still.
- 6:48I don't think we're allowed
- 6:49to use our feet there,
- 6:50but it just seemed much easier.
- 6:51I think it was just what,
- 6:57they call it something from
- 6:59bar to bar um by kipping
- 7:02from one to another but
- 7:04yeah it looks awesome looks
- 7:05like a good time yeah the
- 7:07tricycle is my favorite
- 7:08part just going around racing
- 7:12Where is this at?
- 7:13Is this in California?
- 7:14No, in Toronto.
- 7:15Oh, okay.
- 7:15Lex came for the weekend just to visit.
- 7:21And then we'll be going to
- 7:25Scotland in a few weeks together.
- 7:28So she had planned this trip
- 7:31a while back before.
- 7:34So do you guys know Michelle Wonky?
- 7:38she's an american ninja
- 7:40warrior one of the like
- 7:42first women way back in the
- 7:44day um she lives here in
- 7:46columbus just in the
- 7:48neighborhood south of me
- 7:49and she has an american
- 7:50ninja warrior gym here oh
- 7:52cool they messaged us after
- 7:55because we tagged them and
- 7:56then they're like I'll come
- 7:57back for more obstacle
- 7:58course stuff we'll invite
- 7:59you guys to some more
- 8:01sessions and we're like
- 8:02okay I'd like to do it learn a
- 8:07Yeah, super cool.
- 8:08There's a lot of technical
- 8:09stuff that are in that,
- 8:12like in those challenges.
- 8:15So lots to learn.
- 8:19Well, Jamie,
- 8:19you had a tennis banquet today.
- 8:22Last year took like seven hours.
- 8:24Yeah.
- 8:25I want to say it was like
- 8:26four hours last year.
- 8:27It was, let's see,
- 8:29like three hours and
- 8:30fifteen minutes this year.
- 8:32So, I mean, I'm pretty close to on time,
- 8:34so it wasn't terrible at all.
- 8:36Yeah.
- 8:41how'd it go it was good it's
- 8:42the he does the paper plate
- 8:44awards um so he like comes
- 8:47up with the story and draws
- 8:49a picture on there and so
- 8:51he goes through he comes up
- 8:52with a story for every kid
- 8:53and those are what take a
- 8:54while and then there's like
- 8:56a video at the end but yeah
- 8:57it was good it was a nice
- 8:58banquet we eat it we go to
- 9:01msu we eat at brody hall
- 9:02which is like kind like a
- 9:05it's just an it's like
- 9:06thirteen bucks all you can
- 9:07eat and you there's like
- 9:09seven different lines that
- 9:11you can go through you can
- 9:12get a home style you can
- 9:13get a pizza you can get a
- 9:14burger you can get um like
- 9:16an asian inspired um so
- 9:19yeah lots of stuff sounds
- 9:25like it and now senior year
- 9:27tennis is over
- 9:30It is over.
- 9:31Yep.
- 9:31That was that.
- 9:32Well, last week was the end of the season.
- 9:34So, yep.
- 9:35I think he might try to do
- 9:36some winter stuff.
- 9:37I mean, I think he,
- 9:38he's still interested in sort of playing.
- 9:40So,
- 9:41and there's like UTR is universal
- 9:44tennis rating.
- 9:44You get a rating and you can
- 9:45play matches all over.
- 9:47One of our local clubs
- 9:48around here has that.
- 9:49So I'll probably still try
- 9:50to do some of that.
- 9:52Corey nails it.
- 9:54All you can eat right up Jamie's alley.
- 9:56I've seen that girl.
- 9:58Lex and I went for
- 9:59all-you-can-eat sushi tonight.
- 10:00It was fun.
- 10:01I'm full.
- 10:03We did that with my daughter
- 10:04in Pittsburgh.
- 10:06It was the best.
- 10:07So good.
- 10:08I just let my daughter order
- 10:09whatever she wanted,
- 10:10and I just picked off her plate.
- 10:14I paid for it as well,
- 10:15but I just let her make the
- 10:17choices because it was made to order.
- 10:19I was like, just get what you want,
- 10:21and I'll eat off of that.
- 10:25That was pretty cool.
- 10:28Yes, Michigan State.
- 10:31Not going to say the little brother.
- 10:34Well, the game wasn't great yesterday,
- 10:35but started out pretty good.
- 10:44Whoops.
- 10:45Kipping it real says,
- 10:46you know what I do when I'm
- 10:47sad about football or anything?
- 10:49I write a song.
- 10:53Okay.
- 10:57So anyway, that's the sports.
- 10:59It's been a crazy sports week.
- 11:01The World Series has been unreal.
- 11:03The Friday night game one
- 11:04was off the chain with the
- 11:07Grand Slam and extra
- 11:08innings to win the game and the Dodgers.
- 11:10Yeah.
- 11:12not a big dodgers fan but I
- 11:13hate the yankees so uh
- 11:15rooting la at this point um
- 11:18and then what they won last
- 11:20night which was pretty cool
- 11:21uh the new york liberty
- 11:23right after we got off the
- 11:24air it was so close when we
- 11:25were on the air and it went
- 11:27into overtime when we got
- 11:28off the air and then what a
- 11:31finish uh every game was
- 11:34tight off that game could
- 11:36have went that series could
- 11:37have went ten games and
- 11:39still been entertaining
- 11:41Yeah,
- 11:41next year they changed the playoff
- 11:42format to go to seven games
- 11:44for the finals.
- 11:46That'll be much better.
- 11:47Yeah.
- 11:48But college football's been
- 11:50insane this year.
- 11:51Everything's been so good.
- 11:55it's all going to like,
- 11:56we have everything all at once right now.
- 11:58And then now WNBA is over.
- 12:01Baseball is going to be over in a week.
- 12:03Things are going to start
- 12:04going by the wayside and
- 12:05then we'll have less to watch.
- 12:07Hopefully it stays,
- 12:08stays fun throughout the
- 12:10rest of the year.
- 12:13So we're going to start off today's show,
- 12:14the CrossFit part,
- 12:16with just a couple quick announcements.
- 12:18First one is Kelly Baker,
- 12:21Kelly Baker Shirley,
- 12:23a big friend of the show.
- 12:24She was a part of All Access,
- 12:27which Carolyn was a part of last season.
- 12:30She announced this week that
- 12:32she is pregnant with a little girl.
- 12:35And she retired or stepped
- 12:37back from the sport this
- 12:38past season to start a family.
- 12:41So the fact that that happened was really,
- 12:44really cool.
- 12:46And I texted her Friday and
- 12:50had a little conversation.
- 12:51And she's so stoked.
- 12:52It's so cool that this happened for them.
- 12:56I love the little video she
- 12:57put out with her.
- 12:59you know, going through it all,
- 13:00trying to get pregnant and
- 13:01then calling her sister and
- 13:04mom and everyone,
- 13:05and then getting together.
- 13:06I was very cute video.
- 13:09Um, yeah,
- 13:11the video going through it all
- 13:12and all the shots and the,
- 13:15you could see the pain on her face,
- 13:17what she was doing to have
- 13:18the kid and her husband that is a doctor.
- 13:22So the fact that he could
- 13:22administer those shots for her, um,
- 13:25that was really cool.
- 13:28So, uh, and Zach is awesome.
- 13:31So I know CrossFit is saying
- 13:33that he outkicked his coverage with Kelly,
- 13:35but Zach's a great, great guy.
- 13:37Um, super smart, um,
- 13:39and really fun to talk to.
- 13:42He's, he's just an awesome, awesome guy.
- 13:43Yeah.
- 13:45I'm sure they would both say
- 13:46they both lucked out.
- 13:49Yeah.
- 13:49I mean, he is a doctor.
- 13:51Right.
- 13:51Exactly.
- 13:53So.
- 13:55Yeah, yeah.
- 13:57So that was announced.
- 14:00And then CrossFit announced
- 14:02their new YouTube training channel,
- 14:04I think a couple weeks ago,
- 14:06but really started
- 14:07activating it this week.
- 14:10um they've done uh some
- 14:12videos they've done some
- 14:14lives I caught the uh
- 14:17nicole carroll uh I just
- 14:21saw her at an affiliate
- 14:22gathering she's irish yeah
- 14:26is it denise denise yeah
- 14:27yeah so I watched their
- 14:29live it was so good so good um
- 14:35I watched the high school
- 14:38one that talked about
- 14:40sports-specific training
- 14:41and CrossFit because that
- 14:44one interested me for the topic.
- 14:47That was good as well.
- 14:48I watched the one with Chuck Carr as well.
- 14:51And there was one other one
- 14:52that I was going to try to
- 14:53go back and watch.
- 14:54But yeah, they've been good.
- 14:58Yeah.
- 14:59I know...
- 15:00there was a, to be a pro coach, like to,
- 15:03for elite athletes.
- 15:04Yeah.
- 15:05I caught a little bit of that one.
- 15:06I didn't,
- 15:07I wasn't able to get the whole
- 15:08way through, but that was Adrian Conway.
- 15:10And, um, uh, gosh,
- 15:14I am so brain dead after this hail Mary.
- 15:17Um, uh, Justin Madaris is coach Adams.
- 15:20Oh yeah.
- 15:21Yeah.
- 15:23Two of them did that.
- 15:24Um,
- 15:24the little bit I caught was really good.
- 15:26I just didn't get to, uh,
- 15:29watch the whole thing.
- 15:30They have, like Craig said here,
- 15:32they have a lot,
- 15:33a lot of movement videos
- 15:35that got released as well
- 15:36as like scaling different movements.
- 15:39Like they have scales for
- 15:40wall walks and pistols and
- 15:43variations of different things.
- 15:44So a huge movement library,
- 15:48we can call it.
- 15:50that they've added to the
- 15:51YouTube channel so that you
- 15:53should be able to just search a movement.
- 15:55And now hopefully CrossFit
- 15:56comes out like that YouTube
- 15:58channel starts coming out
- 16:00first for people that are
- 16:01searching those videos and technique.
- 16:05I did notice the dumbbell
- 16:06box step up was one of the
- 16:08movements they added.
- 16:11That might've been like the
- 16:12first one that came up.
- 16:13Yeah.
- 16:14Might've been about five months too late.
- 16:17Yeah.
- 16:17Yeah.
- 16:18Uh, but yeah, that would have, uh, uh,
- 16:27everybody keeps bringing up
- 16:28the hail Mary salt in the wound guys.
- 16:30Come on, let me get on with the show.
- 16:35All right.
- 16:35So let's talk about some
- 16:36qualifiers that have been
- 16:37going on this week.
- 16:39Um, what a Palooza qualifiers happened.
- 16:43The second part of them had
- 16:45happened this week and we
- 16:46have the leaderboard from the first part.
- 16:50So I can pull up the
- 16:51leaderboard from the first part,
- 16:53and then we'll talk about
- 16:54the workouts for the second part.
- 16:58Yeah, the leaderboard gets closed, I think,
- 17:00tomorrow night at eight p.m.
- 17:03And then the video review after that.
- 17:05And then here comes the teams of three,
- 17:07I think, soon that will start.
- 17:11So this is the men elite to RX.
- 17:16Not a lot of big names in this part.
- 17:19um leonel franco but if you
- 17:24look at who gets the invite
- 17:25and can bypass the
- 17:27qualifier I think it's like
- 17:28the top seven or eight from
- 17:30last year's waterpalooza
- 17:31you have all of the
- 17:32crossfit games athletes
- 17:33from this year that get
- 17:35invited um so it's normally
- 17:37normal like it's normal to
- 17:38not see as many top games
- 17:41athletes I guess on the
- 17:42leaderboard um because a
- 17:44lot of them do have the
- 17:46opportunity to bypass this
- 17:51Is this the leaderboard right now?
- 17:53This is the leaderboard as
- 17:54it stands right now.
- 17:55Yeah,
- 17:56so that'll get shifted also because
- 17:58there's scores that are
- 18:01already in from this week right now.
- 18:03So those scores are going
- 18:04ahead and pushing back some
- 18:07of the people that were leading last week,
- 18:08if I were to assume.
- 18:09Oh,
- 18:09this isn't a hidden leaderboard until
- 18:12the close?
- 18:14If you go out to Alex Katoulis,
- 18:18I think these names are
- 18:19starting to be the ones I
- 18:20haven't posted for week two.
- 18:22If you go back up a little bit,
- 18:25I think it was the Italian
- 18:29guy or something.
- 18:31Some of these are having
- 18:33their fourth score is in or
- 18:34their fifth score.
- 18:35That's why it's not up to
- 18:36date in terms of what it was last week.
- 18:40Nick Matthews, the first one without
- 18:43The fourth score.
- 18:45No, there's someone there.
- 18:48Pedro Martins.
- 18:49Yeah, I think Pedro Martins was in first,
- 18:51actually.
- 18:52Then possibly Nick Matthews.
- 18:53He's the first one without a
- 18:57fourth workout.
- 18:58And then you'll start
- 18:59getting people in between,
- 19:00like you're seeing George Sterner.
- 19:03He was a teen athlete back then,
- 19:05wasn't he?
- 19:05Or am I wrong thinking that?
- 19:07George Sterner.
- 19:11And then that's a lot of them down here.
- 19:14Okay, so we will not do the leaderboards.
- 19:18What was... I think on the female side,
- 19:28it was the Irish...
- 19:31teenager that was really
- 19:32good um lucy we gotta go
- 19:37yeah lucy campbell is also
- 19:38on the leaderboard she just
- 19:39had a tough lifting wad but
- 19:41she crushed the other two
- 19:42workouts she was just
- 19:44outside the cut line um
- 19:47yeah there's there's a few
- 19:49good names I feel like the
- 19:50field might be I recognize
- 19:53more of the female side
- 19:54names than the men's side
- 19:56but it could be because I
- 19:57have a bias there um
- 20:01Um,
- 20:02so here is the next two workouts that
- 20:05were due this week.
- 20:08Indie workout for you did this Carolyn?
- 20:11No, I did not.
- 20:11Okay.
- 20:13So this was four times, ten, ten, twenty,
- 20:16thirty, forty,
- 20:17fifty wall balls and then
- 20:20five by fifty foot shuttle
- 20:21runs after each round.
- 20:30I like the ascending reps.
- 20:32You're getting that Karen workout with,
- 20:35you know, some running,
- 20:36but not so much running
- 20:38either that you're just
- 20:38doing a bunch of shuttle runs.
- 20:41The best would be unbroken.
- 20:42Yeah.
- 20:45The Indy number five was
- 20:47beginning on an eight minute clock,
- 20:49two rounds, eighteen deadlifts,
- 20:51eighteen pull ups
- 20:52immediately into three
- 20:54rounds of twelve deadlifts,
- 20:56twelve chest to bar.
- 20:58If completed before eight minutes,
- 21:00add four minutes and
- 21:02proceed to four rounds of nine deadlifts,
- 21:05nine bar muscle-ups,
- 21:07immediately into an AMRAP
- 21:10of three deadlifts and
- 21:11three burpee bar muscle-ups.
- 21:14I love that one.
- 21:16I like that one.
- 21:18I would love that one.
- 21:19I did try it,
- 21:21but that would be a very good
- 21:23workout for me.
- 21:24That seems right up your alley.
- 21:26Yep, very much.
- 21:29Pulling gymnastics and deadlift,
- 21:31that's really good.
- 21:34The weight on that is three-fifteen,
- 21:37two-twenty-five.
- 21:38Oh, it goes up.
- 21:40It starts at one-thirty-five, ninety-five.
- 21:43One-eighty-five, one-twenty-five.
- 21:45Two-twenty-five, one-fifty-five.
- 21:47Then three-fifteen, two-twenty-five.
- 21:51That's a good workout.
- 21:52I like that.
- 21:56And then once those two are done,
- 21:58they'll be entered on the
- 21:59leaderboard and the
- 22:00leaderboard will finalize
- 22:01at tomorrow night.
- 22:02They're off to be in by tomorrow night.
- 22:06Yeah.
- 22:06It reminds me a little bit of, um,
- 22:08fittest of the coasts, final workout,
- 22:10just jump rope instead of deadlift.
- 22:12Cause that was pull-ups
- 22:13three rounds for pull-ups,
- 22:15two rounds of chest bar,
- 22:17one round of bar muscle ups.
- 22:19Well, that was my next pull up for, um,
- 22:22cause I know you've been
- 22:23doing fittest of the coast.
- 22:25Sure have.
- 22:27Did you see my score?
- 22:29I have not.
- 22:31Is there a leaderboard on the web?
- 22:34Yeah.
- 22:36Okay.
- 22:36What is the qualifier done for that one?
- 22:41Like, what do you mean?
- 22:42Is the qualifier done for it?
- 22:44So that leaderboard will close Tuesday.
- 22:46So the workout that I just said,
- 22:48the one with the pull-ups, chest part,
- 22:50that one's due Tuesday.
- 22:51Okay.
- 22:53There's one more week of it?
- 22:54This is the last week.
- 22:56This is the last workout.
- 22:59It's been one workout a week.
- 23:00Just like the Open.
- 23:04I would not like this one.
- 23:07No.
- 23:09You wouldn't have liked the double-unders.
- 23:11Look at those double-unders.
- 23:12No way.
- 23:15It was a good workout.
- 23:16At least it would be paired
- 23:18with the strength of mine,
- 23:19but it wouldn't matter.
- 23:21It's not enough of the gymnastics.
- 23:24I would get crushed in this.
- 23:26The masters for this was,
- 23:32it was way too scaled.
- 23:34Um,
- 23:34I honestly don't know why thirty five
- 23:36to at least forty five
- 23:39wasn't doing this workout.
- 23:40They did like ninety less
- 23:44jump rope and thirty less
- 23:46pull-ups.
- 23:47Um, it was essentially a sprint.
- 23:50And I mean, it just, it goes back to like,
- 23:51this is why the masters
- 23:54groups are not improving their fitness,
- 23:56especially their gymnastics, dense sets,
- 23:58because they keep scaling things.
- 24:00And like people can skate by
- 24:03on these workouts that, um,
- 24:05I mean,
- 24:05what you want to be able to do is
- 24:06do fifteen unbroken bar
- 24:07muscle ups at the end.
- 24:08That's how you're going to
- 24:09win this workout.
- 24:10And it was just it was just
- 24:12a little I feel like a
- 24:12little bit too easy in the
- 24:14thirty five and up category.
- 24:17They just keep pushing heavy
- 24:18weights and don't push enough gymnastics,
- 24:21dense sets.
- 24:26But we'll see the scores on that one.
- 24:28Yeah,
- 24:28last week's I crushed last week's
- 24:30workout.
- 24:30I was like four reps behind
- 24:31Taylor Williamson.
- 24:32So she got.
- 24:35I got three hundred sixty five.
- 24:36I got three hundred sixty one.
- 24:39It was the total of our workout.
- 24:43Here is the men's top score so far,
- 24:46fittest to the coast.
- 24:48Is your leaderboard hidden?
- 24:51It is.
- 24:51OK, so are you like that?
- 24:54Do you think you think that
- 24:55the open should have a
- 24:56hidden leaderboard until
- 24:58like the release on the Monday?
- 25:02Or would that just be a shit
- 25:03show of fake scores on the
- 25:05Monday and problems with people?
- 25:08Because, I mean, throughout the Open,
- 25:11when you start seeing scores, you're like,
- 25:12okay,
- 25:12this is not a real score out of there.
- 25:14Right.
- 25:15You start cleaning up the leaderboard.
- 25:16Do you think that the Open could ever –
- 25:20I don't know.
- 25:20Like in one hand,
- 25:21I think it may keep people
- 25:24slightly more honest.
- 25:26Like you aren't seeing,
- 25:27you aren't seeing like the
- 25:28score that you need to try
- 25:29to beat now or what,
- 25:30but would it also like,
- 25:32I'm trying to think,
- 25:33could somebody like not
- 25:35know what a good score is
- 25:36and just do something like
- 25:37absolutely ridiculous, like almost cheat,
- 25:39like too much and put in, but I,
- 25:42I guess those would be like
- 25:43easily identifiable just
- 25:45like they already are.
- 25:46Um,
- 25:48know I yeah I think keeping
- 25:49it private until monday
- 25:51wouldn't necessarily be a
- 25:52bad idea but yeah this it
- 25:57is private until I've been
- 25:58devil's advocate to that
- 25:59whole thing but maybe let's
- 26:01get to that when we talk
- 26:02about what the season
- 26:03should look like a little
- 26:05bit later um so this is the
- 26:09men's leaderboard for
- 26:10fittest to the coast um
- 26:14I know some of these names
- 26:15from semi-finals.
- 26:17Um, my coach at Polaris is in third.
- 26:19Nice.
- 26:22Uh, so that's Alexander majors.
- 26:25Um,
- 26:25so that's pretty cool seeing him there.
- 26:26Yeah.
- 26:28I didn't even know that till
- 26:29I pulled this up.
- 26:30Uh, the pro RX female, um,
- 26:33McKenna insulin that's page.
- 26:35Some ends his training partner,
- 26:37Sabrina Taylor.
- 26:39Taylor,
- 26:40Elena Pomerisi was part of our all
- 26:42access coverage last year.
- 26:45Caroline Klutz.
- 26:48Are you on this leaderboard?
- 26:50I am not on this leaderboard.
- 26:52I probably should have signed up for this,
- 26:53but are people able to do
- 26:55both then leaderboards?
- 26:56Like you said that you're
- 26:57right behind Taylor.
- 26:58Is that,
- 26:59are you just comparing to the
- 27:00individual that workout?
- 27:02Okay.
- 27:02I was just looking at that
- 27:03workout score last.
- 27:04I don't know how old she is, but.
- 27:07Um,
- 27:08so we did the same workout because I'm
- 27:10doing the pro team.
- 27:11Gotcha.
- 27:12So individual or pro team.
- 27:15Correct.
- 27:17Are you not doing masters?
- 27:19Correct.
- 27:19It's because it's different
- 27:20workouts and I'm not,
- 27:21I wasn't trying to mess around with that.
- 27:23It's not, it's different.
- 27:24And like I said,
- 27:25like I would have to do
- 27:26each workout twice because
- 27:28last week's would have been
- 27:29lighter weights.
- 27:30This week's would have been
- 27:31less jump rope.
- 27:32So I had to do the workout
- 27:33two times and I was not
- 27:34messing around with that.
- 27:37So who is your team?
- 27:39Blackout or get out.
- 27:40We're in twelve.
- 27:42How many qualify?
- 27:43Sixteen.
- 27:44Okay.
- 27:46Who is your teammate?
- 27:47Haley.
- 27:49Oh, is she back?
- 27:52Yeah.
- 27:52Oh, yeah.
- 27:53That's not us.
- 27:53That's thirteen.
- 27:54That is black sheep.
- 27:55There you go.
- 28:00Okay.
- 28:02So you guys are back to training together?
- 28:03Mm-hmm.
- 28:04That's awesome.
- 28:05Yep.
- 28:10Um, yeah, this, this I've heard,
- 28:14this is a great event.
- 28:15I tried to go do media there
- 28:16last year and was denied.
- 28:19So I don't know.
- 28:23Um, I may try to go back again,
- 28:27but have you enjoyed the qualifier?
- 28:31Has it been,
- 28:32so sometimes qualifiers are an
- 28:33interruption to training
- 28:35and sometimes that you can
- 28:36fit them into training.
- 28:38Yeah.
- 28:39What about the Wadapalooza
- 28:40ones you could fit into training?
- 28:42So I prefer the way
- 28:43Wadapalooza is two weeks, three,
- 28:46three or four workouts,
- 28:47or I think it was only two
- 28:47workouts this week, but yeah,
- 28:49like you get it and it's like,
- 28:51I kind of hate the ones is
- 28:53as much as like, you say,
- 28:55like you would have even more time.
- 28:57Like the ones that I think,
- 28:58I think legends gave you
- 28:59like three or four weeks for four,
- 29:01four workouts or something.
- 29:02It was absolutely ridiculous.
- 29:04Then you're just like, sure.
- 29:05You could fit that in anywhere,
- 29:06but you're also like,
- 29:09that's when people are doing
- 29:10them three times each, you know,
- 29:12like it's just way too,
- 29:13way too much strategy going into it.
- 29:16And like, I just like get the workout,
- 29:19do it on a Friday and a Saturday,
- 29:20submit the scores, go, um, this, this,
- 29:24I would say, yeah, it's, it's,
- 29:25you just kind of do it on
- 29:26like either a Friday or a
- 29:27Tuesday you pick, um,
- 29:29and go about your training.
- 29:30I've been not trying to like,
- 29:35I'm trying to like,
- 29:36just keep my training exactly the same.
- 29:37So I did
- 29:39I did the throw down workout
- 29:41for training think tank on Thursday,
- 29:43which was sixty burpee box
- 29:45jump over thirty bar muscle ups.
- 29:47And then I did this workout the next day.
- 29:49So, like,
- 29:49I did a shit ton of bar muscle ups.
- 29:52But that's fine.
- 29:53Like, that doesn't bother me.
- 29:55Could I have had a better
- 29:56score maybe if I hadn't
- 29:57done the thirty bar muscle
- 29:58ups the day before?
- 30:00Which sucked because then I
- 30:01saw it kill Taylor and I was like,
- 30:02I want to do that.
- 30:03But I was like,
- 30:03I can't do bar muscle ups
- 30:04for a third day in a row.
- 30:06I was like, I love that workout.
- 30:10So the last thing we'll talk about,
- 30:12and I don't have this in the notes,
- 30:13but Patrick just got back
- 30:15from Germany from the Oslo Throwdown.
- 30:18Great event at an amazing venue.
- 30:20Vendor Village was packed.
- 30:22Over a thousand athletes competed.
- 30:24And I know on the elite teams, my girl,
- 30:27Mathilde Garnes,
- 30:28and her partner won that event.
- 30:32I can't remember his name offhand,
- 30:34but I know they won.
- 30:36So super happy for her.
- 30:38And later Patrick talks
- 30:40about Kristen Holta was
- 30:41back on the competition
- 30:42floor and it's always fun
- 30:44to see her back out there.
- 30:46She's just a legend and super stoked.
- 30:50Anytime we get a chance to see her,
- 30:53her out there.
- 30:53She's incredible.
- 31:00Matilde's partner is Heinrich.
- 31:03So, yeah.
- 31:06I saw a picture on her
- 31:07Instagram of them kissing as they run.
- 31:11It was exciting to see that.
- 31:18CrossFit's killing it in Europe, right?
- 31:20And maybe they're doing some
- 31:23things that we're not doing well here.
- 31:27And that's why.
- 31:30So Rogue have made a few
- 31:32announcements this week.
- 31:35They announced who all the
- 31:36legends are going to be.
- 31:38Pretty much the same as all
- 31:39the other years.
- 31:41And it's always good to see them.
- 31:45But I'm going to pull up a picture.
- 31:49This was early in the week.
- 31:50We talked about it earlier
- 31:51this week on another show.
- 31:54But our very own Carolyn Prevost
- 32:02Got her picture put up by
- 32:03Rogue traversing this very
- 32:06long horizontal pegboard.
- 32:10So I don't want to ask you
- 32:10any specifics about this
- 32:12other than what is easier,
- 32:14the rings to the pegs in
- 32:16the jungle gym that you did
- 32:17earlier in this show or this?
- 32:19They're very different.
- 32:22hard to like it was funny
- 32:24because there was there was
- 32:25like a pegboard that I
- 32:27could have done but there
- 32:28was no pegs there at the
- 32:30place they're just very
- 32:31different um yeah it's not
- 32:35it's not really the same
- 32:36thing because you're having
- 32:37I was having to go up on
- 32:39this uh obstacle course
- 32:41that I was doing with the
- 32:42rings and then across and
- 32:43then back down um it's not
- 32:47the same but and just so
- 32:49the audience is aware
- 32:51The reason I'm not asking
- 32:52her is because if you've
- 32:53watched the show for any
- 32:55length of time at all,
- 32:57Carolyn is very into the
- 32:59integrity of the sport.
- 33:02And anything she knows about
- 33:04something that's going to
- 33:05be in a competition,
- 33:06she will keep to herself.
- 33:08And we as a show will respect that.
- 33:11So even though she's done this,
- 33:13that's why I cannot ask her
- 33:15about it because she
- 33:17believes in the integrity
- 33:18of the sport and would
- 33:19never do anything to break
- 33:20that confidence.
- 33:22that Katie and Bill
- 33:23Hunnegiver have in her to
- 33:25allow like I've had I've
- 33:26had a few athletes reach
- 33:28out for tips on it and I
- 33:30like I can't give any
- 33:31specific and it's like this
- 33:32is the reason why it's
- 33:33being released early so
- 33:35people can figure it out
- 33:37and practice like it's not
- 33:39me to give anything um like
- 33:42it's an honor for me to get
- 33:44chosen to like to have
- 33:46Rogue trust me to test the
- 33:47workouts so I don't
- 33:50want to ever jeopardize
- 33:51anything like that.
- 33:52And yeah,
- 33:53having a fair competition is
- 33:54extremely important to me as an athlete.
- 33:57I hate when there's leaks, um,
- 33:59or people that know things
- 34:00and it's just not fair.
- 34:01So I would never want to be
- 34:03that person that creates a
- 34:05competition that's just not fair.
- 34:06So yeah, I can't talk about anything,
- 34:09but it's there for people to see.
- 34:11And, um,
- 34:12I've already seen that some people have,
- 34:14um, been playing around with it.
- 34:16I think Emma McQuaid posted like
- 34:18her attempt of it.
- 34:20Um, she had it mounted to her rig.
- 34:23Um,
- 34:24if you go to most like Ninja warrior
- 34:26places,
- 34:26I feel like they would have some
- 34:28sort of horizontal pegboard to try.
- 34:32Um, it's not gonna be the exact holes or,
- 34:36but it's, you know, they,
- 34:37they have a couple of weeks to practice.
- 34:41Yeah.
- 34:41It'll make a big difference
- 34:42to have touches on it for sure.
- 34:46I did not get that.
- 34:47Um,
- 34:50CrossFit says,
- 34:52I assumed Rogue only had
- 34:53deadlift content of Carolyn.
- 35:00Yeah, they also says,
- 35:01high school wrestling rooms
- 35:02always had these.
- 35:04Cool.
- 35:06And they also...
- 35:08If you guys remember,
- 35:09I did a show with Hattie
- 35:11Cano where she was training in Bali.
- 35:14During that time,
- 35:15she went to Elphitt in Egypt,
- 35:18and they had these in competition there.
- 35:21They were not this long.
- 35:24Not this long at all.
- 35:26But she talked about it,
- 35:27and she actually made up a
- 35:29lot of ground on this event
- 35:30because a lot of people struggled.
- 35:36So...
- 35:38So not the first time it's being used,
- 35:39but definitely the first time at this.
- 35:40Yeah.
- 35:42I mean,
- 35:42if they struggle with these level
- 35:45of athletes though.
- 35:46Yeah.
- 35:46Yeah.
- 35:49I feel like people have been
- 35:50talking about this movement
- 35:52for a couple of years now
- 35:54after the Egypt one for sure.
- 35:58Or the outfit.
- 35:58What was it called?
- 35:59Yeah.
- 36:01Yeah.
- 36:02And to see, you know,
- 36:04the top athletes in the
- 36:04sport get to do it.
- 36:06It'll be, it'll be good.
- 36:10Well,
- 36:10and what's even to be better is
- 36:12they've also announced
- 36:13they're bringing back the
- 36:14premium streaming package,
- 36:18which I took part in last year.
- 36:22And they say it's going to
- 36:22be better this year.
- 36:24They're adding more angles, more cameras,
- 36:27and more stuff.
- 36:28Yeah.
- 36:30If you did not try this out last year,
- 36:32their premium stream,
- 36:35and you're not going to be in Scotland,
- 36:37it is worth every cent of
- 36:38the twenty five dollars.
- 36:40You get to pick the angle
- 36:42you want to watch.
- 36:43So when we're always
- 36:44complaining about how the
- 36:46stream only shows the same
- 36:48two athletes during an event,
- 36:50it's your choice to move
- 36:51the camera to another angle
- 36:53and watch that with this coverage.
- 36:56you also get to pick between
- 36:58the traditional broadcast
- 36:59and the tailgate broadcast
- 37:02which is um last year was
- 37:05hosted by pat sherwood and
- 37:06he had guests like josh
- 37:08bridges rich froning jason
- 37:10kalipa annie thor's
- 37:12daughter katrin david's
- 37:13daughter and they gave their input
- 37:16yeah into the event the best
- 37:18was josh because he's the
- 37:19one that um did the
- 37:21programming for the event
- 37:22so he could give his input
- 37:24tell stories about what
- 37:25katie made him switch what
- 37:27katie said no to um things
- 37:29like that which made it
- 37:30really really interesting
- 37:33is it josh and chris again
- 37:34this year helping program
- 37:37josh chris and katie yeah yeah cool
- 37:42Yeah.
- 37:43Uh,
- 37:43Craig echoes premium coverage was great
- 37:45last year.
- 37:49Uh, so it was, and it does, uh,
- 37:52it is kind of a man in cast vibe.
- 37:55Um,
- 37:55they'd pay less attention to the action
- 37:57on the floor, uh,
- 37:59and just kind of talk about
- 38:01overarching things about it.
- 38:03Now, if something amazing happens,
- 38:04they definitely like jump into that.
- 38:07Um,
- 38:09But it just gives you an
- 38:10alternative so you're not
- 38:10listening to the same voice
- 38:12the entire weekend.
- 38:15I bounced around a little
- 38:16bit back and forth.
- 38:18It was...
- 38:26Why not make the premium
- 38:27coverage level the coverage?
- 38:28Because they're charging
- 38:29twenty five dollars for it.
- 38:31It probably helps them recoup some funds.
- 38:33If it keeps growing,
- 38:35you give one version for free.
- 38:40Anybody can watch and not pay a cent.
- 38:43And you have the premium
- 38:44coverage helps you kind of
- 38:46offset the cost of the streaming.
- 38:49I think it's a brilliant idea.
- 38:53the NFL does it like, you know,
- 38:55local channels show games every week.
- 38:57If you don't want to watch
- 38:58the Cleveland Browns or
- 38:59Cincinnati Bengals here in Columbus,
- 39:01you have an option to buy a
- 39:02package that allows you to see more,
- 39:10you know,
- 39:11and they do that for all sports now.
- 39:12Right.
- 39:14Yeah.
- 39:14It's been bigger and bigger
- 39:17and you can rewatch it after too.
- 39:19If you like watch the one coverage,
- 39:21like you can rewatch the,
- 39:23the premium one another time too.
- 39:27Right.
- 39:27I think you had a certain date last time,
- 39:29right?
- 39:29Where you could watch all.
- 39:31So the one difference is last year,
- 39:33you could not rewind the
- 39:34premium coverage.
- 39:35Okay.
- 39:37This year you can.
- 39:38Okay.
- 39:39That's a good addition then.
- 39:41And then it, when the event was over,
- 39:43you could then go back and
- 39:44watch replays of it all.
- 39:47Great.
- 39:49But this,
- 39:49this year they're allowing that
- 39:50from the start now.
- 39:52And I think it's because
- 39:53they're in Europe and some
- 39:55of the events are going to
- 39:56start at five in the
- 39:57morning because the premium
- 39:59coverage is not just CrossFit.
- 40:01It's the strong man stuff too.
- 40:03So,
- 40:03and they have strong men come into the
- 40:05tailgate and do stuff as well.
- 40:07And they have a strong woman
- 40:08this year too.
- 40:09They do.
- 40:10Yeah.
- 40:11Yep.
- 40:14And I know the strong man
- 40:16schedule has been released
- 40:17and some of those events
- 40:18start five AM Eastern time
- 40:21here in the States.
- 40:23They haven't announced yet
- 40:24anything on the schedule
- 40:25for strong women or CrossFit yet?
- 40:31All the strong sports, men and women,
- 40:34have been announced.
- 40:35It's just the CrossFit
- 40:36that's not announced.
- 40:37Yeah,
- 40:38and I feel like Spin put out an
- 40:40anticipated timeline with those breaks.
- 40:43It looked pretty legit.
- 40:50Spin's just been finding some
- 40:53some diamonds lately always
- 40:57yeah he works hard he's a
- 40:59detective yeah I uh I
- 41:02talked to him this week
- 41:03because I I asked him for
- 41:04permission for some stuff
- 41:06uh just to be clear on some
- 41:07things so um with that
- 41:10we'll get into the next
- 41:12piece of news um two more
- 41:16positive tests in the
- 41:17masters group sean ramirez uh second time
- 41:24Two and two.
- 41:26He would test a positive for
- 41:28dihydroxy LGD-LGD-LGD-LGD-LGD-LGD.
- 41:35I went,
- 41:35if I'm going to know about steroids,
- 41:37I go to Hiller's channel
- 41:38because the man knows more
- 41:39about steroids than anybody I know.
- 41:42Apparently this stuff is
- 41:43like the no joke steroid.
- 41:46Like it is way more powerful
- 41:48than the GW zero one five one six.
- 41:53This stuff is like serious
- 41:55shit that Murmure has got caught with.
- 42:01Um, disappointing, but not surprised.
- 42:05Very, very.
- 42:06And then Jonathan Adele
- 42:08tested positive for a variety of things.
- 42:12Anastrozole exogenous
- 42:16steroids X and metabolites
- 42:19of GW five Oh one, five, one, six,
- 42:22the typical one that everybody gets,
- 42:25but he tried everything apparently.
- 42:28So, um,
- 42:31They both tested positive.
- 42:34With that,
- 42:34that brings us to three total in
- 42:36the Masters division.
- 42:39What is funny is this week
- 42:41on the episode eight of the
- 42:43behind the scenes of the
- 42:45Masters CrossFit Games,
- 42:47it was not even planned.
- 42:49It was due to have all three
- 42:51of their interviews show up this week.
- 42:56So I do have a trailer.
- 42:58This comes out tomorrow at
- 43:00twelve thirty p.m.
- 43:01Eastern Time.
- 43:02I'm going to play the
- 43:03trailer real quick because not only that,
- 43:06on on a positive note,
- 43:08a lot of the big names of the sport.
- 43:10Like I tried to interview
- 43:12everybody and anybody,
- 43:13regardless of what their
- 43:14place was or anything to
- 43:16get a variety of takes from the weekend.
- 43:19But it also happens that
- 43:23episode eight is the standard.
- 43:25Only the thirty five to
- 43:27fifty four year olds did that event.
- 43:30So it reduced the number of
- 43:32people like in the warmup area.
- 43:34So a lot of the big names of
- 43:36the sport are in this episode,
- 43:39as well as the three who popped.
- 43:42So I just have a little clip
- 43:44to preview tomorrow's episode.
- 43:47Here we go.
- 43:47Watch the original,
- 43:48the first game that was at
- 43:51original Reebok CrossFit club.
- 43:53Still wearing them, still represent.
- 43:54What's going on, man?
- 43:56Ah, really good.
- 43:57So you showed your hat.
- 43:58Yeah, to be faster.
- 43:59To be faster?
- 44:00Yeah, in the run, but no, no.
- 44:04So Will, last time I saw you,
- 44:05you were laying in the back
- 44:07at the Syndicate Crown with
- 44:08a bunch of ice.
- 44:09Oh, sure, yeah.
- 44:09You were able to make it back?
- 44:12Yeah, yeah, we...
- 44:15we committed right when the
- 44:17invites came out to this
- 44:18but I didn't really think
- 44:20that I was going to be able
- 44:21to do it I just wanted to
- 44:21kind of give myself the
- 44:23option in case rehab and
- 44:26everything went well so uh
- 44:27it's been a while since we
- 44:28went back on the floor oh
- 44:32yeah uh feels like riding a
- 44:33bike my friend
- 44:36Yeah, same old stuff.
- 44:38Nerves are the same.
- 44:39It's a little bit different.
- 44:40You know, it's a little less serious.
- 44:42It's more fun, I'd say.
- 44:44Say it again.
- 44:52I'm kidding.
- 44:53Do you want to ask me?
- 44:54We'll take it.
- 44:56We've been to a bunch of these.
- 44:57How's this one different?
- 44:58Oh my god.
- 44:59I'm competing against giants.
- 45:02The guys that are closest to
- 45:03me are this tall.
- 45:03They're huge giant men.
- 45:04Jamie, I'm going to walk with you.
- 45:05How was it?
- 45:05You were moving on the snatches.
- 45:06I needed to.
- 45:14It was like everyone started catching me.
- 45:16Yeah.
- 45:22I'm not sure if it's first
- 45:22thing in the morning, middle morning,
- 45:24afternoon, night.
- 45:26There's no good time to do the standard.
- 45:29Never.
- 45:29Never a good time to do the standard.
- 45:31I love dancing.
- 45:31To be back out here with all
- 45:33these guys is a long time
- 45:35awaited and it feels good.
- 45:37It feels right.
- 45:39Back where you're supposed to be.
- 45:41Back where I'm supposed to be.
- 45:43Pretty good weekend so far.
- 45:44Yeah.
- 45:46So it's in first place for the last event.
- 45:48Yes, sir.
- 45:49What are the nerves like?
- 45:51No nerves.
- 45:52He's here to send it.
- 46:11That is why I love that.
- 46:13That's amazing.
- 46:16That those are just cuts of
- 46:17their interviews.
- 46:19When you see the full thing, they look,
- 46:23it is cringy.
- 46:25Maybe he should,
- 46:26maybe he should have been
- 46:26more nervous about the drug
- 46:28tests because he wasn't nervous about the,
- 46:29the comp.
- 46:32No.
- 46:33Yeah.
- 46:33It is.
- 46:33When you see the full interviews with them,
- 46:35it is so cringy because they talk like,
- 46:39like they have the world by the tail.
- 46:42Um,
- 46:44And the Ramirez one is the worst.
- 46:47So I'm surprised that this
- 46:49is the first time that we
- 46:50have an athlete that is
- 46:51testing positive for the second time.
- 46:53And we're giving another four years,
- 46:55right?
- 46:56At this point,
- 46:57it should be more severe the second time.
- 47:00I don't know why it has to be the same.
- 47:02It should be, you know what?
- 47:04You've done it once, four years.
- 47:07You've done it twice.
- 47:08You're done.
- 47:09Yes.
- 47:10You're done.
- 47:10Like, that's it.
- 47:12Yep.
- 47:12I don't know why it's
- 47:14another same sentence.
- 47:19Yeah.
- 47:20I mean,
- 47:21if he tries to come back in four years,
- 47:24no one's going to respect that guy.
- 47:28You're going to have no trust for him.
- 47:30Not only is it a second time,
- 47:32but if Hiller's correct,
- 47:34he has upped the level of
- 47:36the stuff he took.
- 47:39Every sport is a
- 47:42a scaled up suspension, the more you do it,
- 47:46the longer the suspension becomes.
- 47:51I agree.
- 47:52As everybody in the,
- 47:53is saying lifetime ban.
- 47:55You're done.
- 47:55That's it for CrossFit sanctioned events.
- 47:58Do you,
- 47:58if other competitions want to host
- 48:00you and accept you that's on them,
- 48:03but if CrossFit sanctioned events,
- 48:06like that's it.
- 48:08Second time.
- 48:10Totally agree.
- 48:11Or at least it's like eight years or,
- 48:14you know, something that's significant.
- 48:17Or it has more penalties for
- 48:19repeat offenders.
- 48:22Yeah.
- 48:22I was very,
- 48:23very surprised that it was the
- 48:24same thing.
- 48:26Did it, wait,
- 48:26did it say four years or did
- 48:27it just say that he popped?
- 48:30Um, well,
- 48:32Sean's has not come out cause
- 48:33he's appealing it again.
- 48:35But the other two are past
- 48:38appeals and they both have
- 48:39a four year ban so it's not
- 48:41official that it's a four year ban,
- 48:43I guess,
- 48:43I shouldn't have put that in
- 48:44there like that, but.
- 48:45yeah.
- 48:47yeah.
- 48:53But here's the thing, right?
- 48:56There's people like Jamie
- 48:58and eighty percent of the
- 48:59Masters field who are
- 49:01getting discouraged and
- 49:03don't even want to go
- 49:05compete because why compete
- 49:07if I'm at an unfair advantage?
- 49:09Yep.
- 49:10So if you're doing it twice,
- 49:12see you in the Masters division.
- 49:18Yeah.
- 49:20That sport can't handle it.
- 49:22having the threat of
- 49:23cheaters all the time yeah
- 49:28I don't know it's just it's
- 49:30a joke at this point I just
- 49:32and I feel like everyone
- 49:33thinks that and it's sad
- 49:34because everyone's like
- 49:35well everyone's doing it
- 49:36well everyone isn't doing
- 49:38it but yeah there's a quite
- 49:39a few that are making it
- 49:41embarrassing what did
- 49:43camille's husband say
- 49:44what's his name um thunder
- 49:45bro yeah uh lipson dave so
- 49:49he made a comment it
- 49:52that don't,
- 49:54who wants to see a boring
- 49:57natural competition?
- 49:59Let the people up their T to
- 50:02manageable levels and let's
- 50:04see a good competition.
- 50:05Well, that's not what's happening.
- 50:07The stuff that these people
- 50:08are taking GW five Oh one
- 50:11five six is not testosterone.
- 50:14It's not for no T right.
- 50:17The stuff that,
- 50:19that Ramirez took as
- 50:21apparently a couple steps
- 50:22above that in severity and effectiveness.
- 50:26That is not for low T.
- 50:29But there's a lot of,
- 50:31I'm going to say male
- 50:32masters that are taking
- 50:34testosterone within
- 50:35whatever range that they're allowed.
- 50:38And like Hiller says,
- 50:39like they can pass the,
- 50:41the test and it's a big advantage.
- 50:43Like there's just no way to
- 50:46really catch that.
- 50:47And that's,
- 50:47that's the frustrating part too.
- 50:50Um, but yeah, I,
- 50:58Yeah.
- 50:58I don't know what you do about that.
- 50:59Cause you, I, yeah,
- 51:01it sounds like you can't
- 51:02test that unless you were
- 51:03to do like a. An expensive test.
- 51:06Yeah.
- 51:06Which is never going to happen.
- 51:07But then you're testing less people.
- 51:09Right.
- 51:11Like, I mean,
- 51:12I was glad that they at least
- 51:13tested the top five.
- 51:16Um,
- 51:16it would be nice to test a few at
- 51:18randoms within each division.
- 51:19Like let's say three at randoms.
- 51:23Yeah.
- 51:23Well, as a top five.
- 51:24Yeah.
- 51:25Um,
- 51:30I think what happened this
- 51:32year is and we kind of
- 51:34talked about that on a chat
- 51:36we did but I think Legends
- 51:39is never tested the Masters
- 51:42split off from the games
- 51:43and there were people that
- 51:44thought this is my shot to
- 51:47do whatever I want and
- 51:48succeed and so I'm going to
- 51:53give it a shot because
- 51:54they're probably not going to test
- 51:57And then got there and went, oh, shit.
- 51:58Yep.
- 52:03I mean,
- 52:04Jonathan Adele is not even appealing.
- 52:06Right.
- 52:07No.
- 52:07During the competition,
- 52:09when I saw him compete,
- 52:10I literally sent his story to Lex.
- 52:12And I was like,
- 52:12look at this guy's back in
- 52:14the forty to forty five,
- 52:15forty to forty four.
- 52:16I was like, this is not natural.
- 52:19Like,
- 52:19there's like the way his body was like.
- 52:20I was like, this is.
- 52:23Like,
- 52:23it was so obvious and I'd never heard
- 52:26of him.
- 52:27And I was like, this is bad look.
- 52:32Like, you could just tell.
- 52:35It was... It's sad because, like,
- 52:38he was so obvious.
- 52:40But it's good, like...
- 52:44some of the, like those,
- 52:45like Rudy is getting
- 52:46vindicated because it's come out,
- 52:49but there's as obvious as he was,
- 52:52there are other people that
- 52:53are that obvious that are
- 52:54never going to pop.
- 52:55And it's frustrating as all
- 52:56hell for someone.
- 52:57And then there's people that
- 52:58are less obvious that are
- 53:00cheating as well.
- 53:01So you just,
- 53:02you just can't physically tell,
- 53:03but there's cheating, but it's hard.
- 53:07So I talked to Lynette earlier this week,
- 53:11Lynette Berger, who is Rudy's wife.
- 53:15vindication, man, you know,
- 53:19he finished fourth,
- 53:20he moves up to a podium spot,
- 53:22but it doesn't happen at the event.
- 53:24He doesn't get the metal,
- 53:25like put around his,
- 53:26it's the whole Pat Velner,
- 53:27Ricky Gerard thing, right?
- 53:30Like it happens a couple of
- 53:31months later and what he's
- 53:32going to get it in the mail.
- 53:34Yeah, you lose your moment,
- 53:35you lose your sponsorship
- 53:36opportunity while you were
- 53:38right off the... I mean,
- 53:39not that there's as many
- 53:40sponsorship opportunities
- 53:41in the... But he is one of
- 53:43the few that does get sponsors.
- 53:45Absolutely.
- 53:46Absolutely.
- 53:47There's some coverage that
- 53:48you would have gotten,
- 53:49maybe some interviews after the games.
- 53:52A lot of missed opportunities.
- 53:53It's just too bad.
- 53:55They're just filled with mixed emotions.
- 53:58And I think it's like,
- 54:00why couldn't this have been
- 54:00handled ahead of time?
- 54:03What are you going to do ahead of time?
- 54:05I understand we thought
- 54:07everyone thought he was obvious.
- 54:08There's other people
- 54:09everyone thought was obvious.
- 54:11I would be thrilled right
- 54:12now if I was Rudy.
- 54:15I'm just going to sit here
- 54:16and salt for my fourth place.
- 54:19We know, Jamie.
- 54:21And we've all talked about that.
- 54:23And the point is that... We
- 54:26know what you deserve, Jamie.
- 54:29We know.
- 54:29We got you.
- 54:30I think the difference is
- 54:33Rudy has two gold medals, right?
- 54:36For him,
- 54:36it's mixed emotions because he's
- 54:40had a taste of it.
- 54:41You have never had a taste of a medal.
- 54:43You would love that thing
- 54:44mailed to you and
- 54:45vindicated that someone was
- 54:47called a cheater out of you.
- 54:48I get it.
- 54:50Different perspectives from
- 54:51different athletes.
- 54:55Just like there are people
- 54:55at the games who are just
- 54:56happy to be there and
- 54:58others who want to win.
- 55:01John Young says I fully
- 55:03expect my back to be like
- 55:04that when I'm forty Carolyn
- 55:07and third in my heart Jamie
- 55:10I saw you in person John
- 55:12you're bigger than I
- 55:12thought my muscular he's
- 55:17bigger than I thought he'd
- 55:18be yeah he's jacked he's
- 55:21taller than I thought he'd be too so yeah
- 55:30So yeah, check that out tomorrow.
- 55:31You'll get the full bit.
- 55:36The clung and the crash is
- 55:40different in the full episode.
- 55:42I made that up for the trailer.
- 55:44The full episode is done a
- 55:45little bit different,
- 55:47but still just as dramatic.
- 55:51Should be an exciting one.
- 55:55Yeah.
- 55:56And like I said,
- 55:56all the big names are in this one.
- 55:58You saw Jamie.
- 55:58I finally make one.
- 56:01You were in another one as well.
- 56:02I don't think so.
- 56:03I don't think I've been in any.
- 56:06Facts.
- 56:06I know you were.
- 56:09And you're in one of the
- 56:09ones coming up too.
- 56:12So...
- 56:15yeah so check that out
- 56:16tomorrow at twelve thirty
- 56:16p.m eastern time um I left
- 56:19the line out where jamie
- 56:21talks about everything
- 56:22going to in her workout um
- 56:26but that's really funny so
- 56:29you have to check out the
- 56:29full episode for that so
- 56:32the the next thing we're
- 56:33going to talk about and
- 56:35probably the last thing for
- 56:36the night is there's a
- 56:38bunch of rumors out there
- 56:40A bunch of rumors about that
- 56:42CrossFit is going to go fully online.
- 56:46That is one rumor until you
- 56:48get to the CrossFit Games.
- 56:51There is another rumor that
- 56:53there are companies or
- 56:56entities wanting to compete
- 56:59against the CrossFit Games
- 57:00at the same time.
- 57:06spin found a website I was
- 57:09able to pull it up as well
- 57:12where dubai has a lot of
- 57:14information about a season
- 57:19I talked to jenny from
- 57:20dense updates she because
- 57:22she reached out to dubai
- 57:23okay dubai said that they
- 57:26never sold that um domain
- 57:29name to anybody else but
- 57:32it's fake news interesting
- 57:35But why would you say you
- 57:36didn't sell it to anybody else?
- 57:40Anyway,
- 57:41so they're all rumors and I have no
- 57:43facts.
- 57:44So what I wanted to kind of
- 57:45twist this into is one, is it feasible?
- 57:52Is it feasible that another
- 57:54entity could put something
- 57:56together that would
- 57:58legitimately compete
- 57:59against the CrossFit Games?
- 58:00Other than Rogue, no.
- 58:06I don't think rogue at this
- 58:07point wants to compete against.
- 58:10I mean,
- 58:11people in Dubai would have the
- 58:12money to do it.
- 58:13Like you see,
- 58:14you see soccer players going there.
- 58:16You see golf,
- 58:18like there's different
- 58:19opportunities in Dubai that, I mean,
- 58:22they would have the funding to generate,
- 58:24to do something.
- 58:25Now,
- 58:25I don't know if they would call it
- 58:26CrossFit, like,
- 58:27like they're not affiliated with CrossFit,
- 58:28but I can see like
- 58:31different opportunities.
- 58:33people trying and this is an
- 58:34opportunity as they see
- 58:35that CrossFit has a
- 58:36weakness right now and they
- 58:37have you know they're
- 58:39vulnerable I guess after
- 58:40the games and everything
- 58:41that's happened and the
- 58:41company like this is an
- 58:43opportunity that I think a
- 58:44lot of other people from
- 58:45the outside might be
- 58:46looking to talk and and see
- 58:49if people can just go in a
- 58:50different direction and
- 58:51this is finally the time
- 58:52that they could do it I'm
- 58:57like I wouldn't be
- 58:57surprised to see something
- 58:59come up that's competing
- 59:01with the season of CrossFit
- 59:04I don't know any of the
- 59:05information that people are
- 59:06getting fed and leaked left and right,
- 59:10but.
- 59:12I feel like the problem with Dubai,
- 59:14like I do think bigger
- 59:16athletes would go there.
- 59:17And I mean, they have in the past,
- 59:19it's a pretty good prize person.
- 59:20And like they pay for the
- 59:24athletes to get there, which is huge.
- 59:25So people are totally going
- 59:26to be willing to go,
- 59:27but they've got to do
- 59:28something about their
- 59:28coverage if they want to
- 59:29grow that competition.
- 59:33That's terrible.
- 59:39I really here's my ideas
- 59:43fall on two sides I don't
- 59:45think there's anybody
- 59:45prepared to put together a
- 59:47season to compete against
- 59:49the CrossFit Games if there
- 59:51was there would be
- 59:53information about it by now
- 59:57Because some of the biggest
- 59:59complaints about CrossFit
- 1:00:00are that we never know what
- 1:00:01the season is until it's almost the open.
- 1:00:05And then everybody's
- 1:00:06scrambling to get ready and
- 1:00:08under a new set of rules
- 1:00:09and a new structure of the
- 1:00:11season and blah, blah, blah.
- 1:00:13If I was competing against them,
- 1:00:15I would want to release all
- 1:00:17that information early.
- 1:00:19And be that,
- 1:00:20that's part of my selling point.
- 1:00:22I've heard you in all the complaints.
- 1:00:25We're going to do something
- 1:00:26about it by one.
- 1:00:27Here's a season structure.
- 1:00:29This is what we're going
- 1:00:30with now and forever.
- 1:00:32Let's go.
- 1:00:35Two.
- 1:00:37If you're going to compete
- 1:00:38against the games,
- 1:00:40you need to be fan friendly.
- 1:00:43The one thing that the games
- 1:00:45do not equate into their or
- 1:00:47put into their equation is
- 1:00:49the fans and the spectators.
- 1:00:52And that's why they struggle
- 1:00:53to get people at events.
- 1:00:55Because they don't give two
- 1:00:56shits about us.
- 1:00:58You're talking about the games?
- 1:01:00The games.
- 1:01:02In what way?
- 1:01:04So...
- 1:01:08Cause I feel like the games are packed.
- 1:01:10What do you, what do you mean?
- 1:01:11Sorry.
- 1:01:12So the CrossFit games
- 1:01:12themselves are packed,
- 1:01:13but nothing leading up to it is.
- 1:01:15Okay.
- 1:01:18And even at the games, like it's okay.
- 1:01:22Let's take rogue.
- 1:01:23Rogue does things so well.
- 1:01:25Premium package for
- 1:01:26streaming that they offer.
- 1:01:28It's the second year they're doing it.
- 1:01:29Now the games has never
- 1:01:31attempted anything like
- 1:01:32that to make that more
- 1:01:33friendly for the fans.
- 1:01:36right?
- 1:01:37Two,
- 1:01:38they have the legends competition
- 1:01:39where they have all the
- 1:01:42legends from the past come
- 1:01:44and then they do a happy
- 1:01:45hour meet and greet where
- 1:01:47you can buy a ticket to go
- 1:01:48in and hang out with Sam
- 1:01:50Briggs and hang out with Kristen, uh,
- 1:01:53Holte and hang out with
- 1:01:54Kristen Clever and Becca
- 1:01:56Voigt and all these people
- 1:01:58and just mingle.
- 1:02:00Um,
- 1:02:02When you go to Rogue, it's more open.
- 1:02:05The athletes are walking
- 1:02:06through the stands.
- 1:02:08They're hanging out.
- 1:02:09It's more fun.
- 1:02:13I think there's different pressures,
- 1:02:14though.
- 1:02:14For most of the day.
- 1:02:21There are athletes that sure
- 1:02:23would not want to come out
- 1:02:25and hang out in the crowd.
- 1:02:26But there are other athletes that would.
- 1:02:30But at the games,
- 1:02:31it's kind of shunned upon.
- 1:02:34Then you look at the
- 1:02:35quarterfinals or the semifinals.
- 1:02:38That's where the most pressure is.
- 1:02:41That's where the most drama is.
- 1:02:46And it's never advertised.
- 1:02:48And you don't even know
- 1:02:49about where it is or what
- 1:02:50it is going to be until two
- 1:02:52weeks before the event.
- 1:02:56You can't even get media
- 1:02:57credentials to any of them
- 1:02:59for up until two weeks before.
- 1:03:01So how do you even get help
- 1:03:02promoting stuff?
- 1:03:10If you're not letting people promote it,
- 1:03:12nobody knows about it.
- 1:03:16Yeah.
- 1:03:17I mean, they should, I mean,
- 1:03:17they have the most followers,
- 1:03:19like the games account and stuff,
- 1:03:20and they should be allowing, you know,
- 1:03:22different third parties to,
- 1:03:24to promote their event and to, um,
- 1:03:27share information on it and everything.
- 1:03:29But that part, like, I mean,
- 1:03:31the media side needs to
- 1:03:34promote the game side more,
- 1:03:36but it might not be their goal, I guess.
- 1:03:42I think they're conflicted
- 1:03:43with the affiliate and the
- 1:03:46CrossFit health and then the sport.
- 1:03:48Like,
- 1:03:48it just... They need to let go of
- 1:03:51their ego and let the
- 1:03:52third-party media promote.
- 1:03:53Mm-hmm.
- 1:03:55they don't let us in on
- 1:03:56anything until it's way too
- 1:03:57too late so we can't even
- 1:04:00help them I'm not saying I
- 1:04:03get it they're a small team
- 1:04:04they've said that enough I
- 1:04:05get it and they have other
- 1:04:06priorities right now than than media
- 1:04:09there are there's the
- 1:04:11barbell spin there's savan
- 1:04:13there's uh be friendly
- 1:04:15fitness there is us there
- 1:04:17is all these people out
- 1:04:19there who've been around
- 1:04:20for a very long time that
- 1:04:22would promote what's going
- 1:04:23on yeah there are small
- 1:04:24teams doing great things in
- 1:04:26the space um but let us
- 1:04:30know put out press releases
- 1:04:33so that we can make
- 1:04:34announcements for them
- 1:04:36We're in charge of the sport
- 1:04:36and they can focus more on
- 1:04:38the CrossFit health and use
- 1:04:41the money more for the
- 1:04:42affiliate and what CrossFit
- 1:04:44was actually made for and general health.
- 1:04:49Roger Goodell went on Pat McAfee.
- 1:04:53That is using an independent
- 1:04:55third-party media company
- 1:04:57to promote your sport
- 1:05:00because Pat McAfee speaks
- 1:05:01to an audience that the NFL
- 1:05:02doesn't normally get to.
- 1:05:06Or Roger Goodell doesn't normally get to.
- 1:05:09Let's say that.
- 1:05:13There are plenty of options
- 1:05:14out there for media
- 1:05:15coverage to just take
- 1:05:19simple press releases from
- 1:05:21HQ and to promote your sport.
- 1:05:34I think that the spectators have been...
- 1:05:37something has been lost in
- 1:05:38the equation because if you
- 1:05:40don't have spectators,
- 1:05:41you don't have a sport.
- 1:05:44If nobody's watching the sport goes away.
- 1:05:47Well, if you don't have the athletes,
- 1:05:48you don't have the sport, but well, true.
- 1:05:50They're part of the equation,
- 1:05:51but athletes are figured in to some.
- 1:05:54And I would even say that
- 1:05:55CrossFit probably puts more
- 1:05:57weight on themselves than they,
- 1:05:59and then they have in the
- 1:06:01past and the athletes and
- 1:06:02the fans and the outside media.
- 1:06:12I mean, I've heard them say, like,
- 1:06:13let the athletes do what they want.
- 1:06:14If they don't want to participate,
- 1:06:16play more where they come from.
- 1:06:20There is a difference
- 1:06:21between special athletes
- 1:06:22that people want to come
- 1:06:22watch and the also-rans.
- 1:06:27And you can't just, like,
- 1:06:28throw away the baby with the bathwater.
- 1:06:33but there are a lot of
- 1:06:34people within this space
- 1:06:35that have a lot of experience and like,
- 1:06:37we just need to bring
- 1:06:38people together to figure
- 1:06:40this all out because you
- 1:06:41don't want someone
- 1:06:42completely new that are
- 1:06:43going to continue to make
- 1:06:44mistakes or don't really know how to,
- 1:06:46how to run things just
- 1:06:46because they have money.
- 1:06:48Um,
- 1:06:48like you still want it to be run well
- 1:06:51and have it be sustainable
- 1:06:53because we haven't seen a
- 1:06:54sustainable model that's worked.
- 1:06:57Like the games loses money
- 1:06:58almost every single year.
- 1:07:00Um,
- 1:07:02But there's people that have
- 1:07:03great ideas in the space.
- 1:07:04So it's just like bringing
- 1:07:05people together that have
- 1:07:07experiences on the business side,
- 1:07:09on the marketing side, athletes,
- 1:07:12and figure out what do we
- 1:07:13want the season to look
- 1:07:14like and how do we want to
- 1:07:17go forward with it.
- 1:07:18I just feel like people just
- 1:07:20are on different pages.
- 1:07:22But you and I have talked
- 1:07:23about the premium stream from Rogue.
- 1:07:26I don't know how many people bought that.
- 1:07:28I bought it just to support.
- 1:07:29It's a way of recouping
- 1:07:30money for the stream.
- 1:07:32We know streams are expensive.
- 1:07:34It's a way to become more sustainable.
- 1:07:37But CrossFit isn't even looking at that.
- 1:07:39I don't know.
- 1:07:44I was in Texas,
- 1:07:48but I had bought the stream
- 1:07:50just because I know I would
- 1:07:52want to see if I was home,
- 1:07:53so I wanted that to
- 1:07:54continue the following year.
- 1:07:55So I'm like,
- 1:07:55I'm just going to buy it just
- 1:07:57so that they know that this
- 1:07:57is something that's
- 1:07:58important and we want more of this.
- 1:08:02But yeah.
- 1:08:06Across that says,
- 1:08:06Roger Goodell also doesn't
- 1:08:08make official announcements
- 1:08:09with vague pics of American literature.
- 1:08:13That is a point.
- 1:08:18Too many egos and too many
- 1:08:19people that only care about
- 1:08:20making money for themselves.
- 1:08:25I do feel there is this
- 1:08:26piece of it is that the
- 1:08:29CrossFit Games were always like a club.
- 1:08:33Right?
- 1:08:33And as it attempted to grow,
- 1:08:36people didn't want to let go of the club.
- 1:08:37Yeah.
- 1:08:39Yeah.
- 1:08:47Clooney says,
- 1:08:48do we know for sure the
- 1:08:49game's actually lost money?
- 1:08:52That one gets me every time.
- 1:08:54It's the same as like legends.
- 1:08:56Like when you go through these,
- 1:08:59when you go through these entry fees,
- 1:09:01ticket costs, sure.
- 1:09:03I like,
- 1:09:04I don't know the cost of the venues
- 1:09:05and stuff, but it,
- 1:09:08it would be very surprising to me.
- 1:09:10And Patrick says, yes, but like,
- 1:09:13Are you saying the CrossFit
- 1:09:14game season loses money?
- 1:09:16Because I can be on board with that.
- 1:09:17But I find it hard to
- 1:09:18believe that the games loses money.
- 1:09:22Just that event.
- 1:09:28Yeah.
- 1:09:28I guess I don't know when they say that,
- 1:09:31whether they mean the whole season.
- 1:09:33Right.
- 1:09:33And that is the cost of the
- 1:09:35semifinals mostly,
- 1:09:36which comes back to your
- 1:09:37point of if that was online
- 1:09:39and then they just focused
- 1:09:41on generating revenue with the open,
- 1:09:44the quarter slash semis,
- 1:09:45and then putting on the
- 1:09:47event for the sport side of things.
- 1:09:50Um,
- 1:09:52Yeah, I don't know.
- 1:09:54But I don't know enough about.
- 1:09:56I'm not saying they're rolling in the show,
- 1:09:58but they get a huge title sponsor.
- 1:10:01They get tons of vendors in there.
- 1:10:04Ten, twenty grand a pop.
- 1:10:06Like,
- 1:10:07I think they're I think they're at
- 1:10:09least breaking even personally.
- 1:10:13It's one of those things
- 1:10:14you'll never know.
- 1:10:15I know.
- 1:10:16It took Major League
- 1:10:16Baseball Players
- 1:10:17Association years and years
- 1:10:20of fighting and strikes and
- 1:10:24all that to get the owners
- 1:10:25to open up their books and
- 1:10:26prove to them if they were
- 1:10:28losing or not losing money.
- 1:10:29Right.
- 1:10:30Right.
- 1:10:31We only know what they want us to know.
- 1:10:37So...
- 1:10:40And I understand.
- 1:10:41So Patrick is saying the
- 1:10:42broadcast alone is to five
- 1:10:43hundred K and the venue is
- 1:10:45five hundred K. I get that.
- 1:10:47But there is income as well
- 1:10:48for the from the season.
- 1:10:50And there's income that the vendor.
- 1:10:54And we've seen the vendor.
- 1:10:57Like we know what they pay.
- 1:10:59Those are some big chunks of
- 1:11:00change that vendors are paying.
- 1:11:01And then we want paid judges so that,
- 1:11:03you know, they could just.
- 1:11:07Right.
- 1:11:07I can see like that.
- 1:11:10Income coming in.
- 1:11:12Yeah.
- 1:11:12For sure.
- 1:11:12For five hundred dollars a piece.
- 1:11:14So expensive.
- 1:11:15Right.
- 1:11:15Like.
- 1:11:15I don't know.
- 1:11:22Maybe they'll make money
- 1:11:23with the documentary that
- 1:11:24comes out next year.
- 1:11:27All the DVD sales.
- 1:11:32But theoretically,
- 1:11:33we should get some news
- 1:11:34soon from the season.
- 1:11:36If you look at when the
- 1:11:36rulebook was released last year,
- 1:11:38it was early November, we said last time.
- 1:11:42It was November, I think, last year.
- 1:11:47I don't even know if we're
- 1:11:48even close to that.
- 1:11:50We haven't gotten any
- 1:11:51information on the
- 1:11:51third-party investigation, the rulebook,
- 1:11:55what's happening next year,
- 1:11:56these new leagues.
- 1:11:58It's just kind of been...
- 1:11:59Nothing except for this new
- 1:12:01YouTube channel that's
- 1:12:02launching with the CrossFit training.
- 1:12:05So I guess we're just waiting right now.
- 1:12:08No world rankings too.
- 1:12:12Yeah,
- 1:12:12no world rankings is a big indicator
- 1:12:15that something's changing again.
- 1:12:20And I saw some comments in
- 1:12:21here like the bottom twenty
- 1:12:22never factor in.
- 1:12:24Well,
- 1:12:24that's because we don't have the
- 1:12:25forty fittest people there.
- 1:12:27right right the format we
- 1:12:29have does not bring the
- 1:12:30forty fittest people to the
- 1:12:32crossfit games correct it
- 1:12:34brings people from all over
- 1:12:35the world together to
- 1:12:36compete and in that is some
- 1:12:39of the fittest people in
- 1:12:40the world but if you but
- 1:12:48then you have the idea that
- 1:12:49they're you know trying to
- 1:12:50grow the sport and and
- 1:12:52trying to be as inclusive in terms of
- 1:12:56when someone comes from one region,
- 1:12:57it starts pushing the next
- 1:12:59person and hopefully, you know,
- 1:13:01the sport grows outside of, you know,
- 1:13:04where it began,
- 1:13:04which is in the States and North America,
- 1:13:07then in Europe, Australia is picking up.
- 1:13:10Um, but yeah.
- 1:13:15So I think those are things that like,
- 1:13:18that's another thing that I would,
- 1:13:19I would factor in if I was
- 1:13:20creating my own league, um,
- 1:13:22I was creating my own league
- 1:13:24I would I wouldn't I don't
- 1:13:25need it to be an olympic
- 1:13:26sport I don't need to bring
- 1:13:28people from every country
- 1:13:29right you put the best of
- 1:13:30the best on the field and
- 1:13:31then you grow the sport
- 1:13:33with people around and
- 1:13:35people wanting to watch it
- 1:13:36then eventually it will
- 1:13:39grow throughout um throughout the world
- 1:13:44So John says no world
- 1:13:45ranking is a good thing.
- 1:13:46They were trash,
- 1:13:47but I like the idea of ranking.
- 1:13:49Ranking is in every single sport.
- 1:13:52You play college sports.
- 1:13:53There's a ranking.
- 1:13:54You play professional sports.
- 1:13:55There's a ranking.
- 1:13:56I don't like their system may not be good,
- 1:13:58but there should be some
- 1:14:00sort of ranking of the athletes.
- 1:14:03Yeah.
- 1:14:04And just figuring out what that looks like,
- 1:14:06like,
- 1:14:07but the idea was at least good to
- 1:14:09start a world ranking of
- 1:14:11some sort that goes beyond
- 1:14:12just looking at the games.
- 1:14:13So I think there's a lot
- 1:14:15more to the season than the games.
- 1:14:17It's just what comp should
- 1:14:19we be including?
- 1:14:21How many years and all of
- 1:14:22that need to get figured out.
- 1:14:24But the concept of having that is good.
- 1:14:27Yeah.
- 1:14:28And being able to say, you know,
- 1:14:29you're ranked right now in the world.
- 1:14:31Seventeenth or whatever it is.
- 1:14:34Can help athletes in terms of.
- 1:14:37Sponsorships and just.
- 1:14:39It does make it more professional.
- 1:14:40And it's.
- 1:14:42I think it's important to
- 1:14:42look outside of the games.
- 1:14:44You can't just be like, oh, this,
- 1:14:46the games is this.
- 1:14:47And that's,
- 1:14:47that's your ranking for the full year.
- 1:14:49Like there's so much more than the games.
- 1:14:51Because there's some people in the games,
- 1:14:52like you said, that are ranked higher.
- 1:14:55But.
- 1:14:57I think the spin poll is
- 1:14:59better than the world rankings, though.
- 1:15:01Yeah, for sure.
- 1:15:04And I think that if that was
- 1:15:05refined and defined as right now,
- 1:15:11who do you think are the top people?
- 1:15:14You could do a top-forty ranking.
- 1:15:17Because I think right now it's like,
- 1:15:18who do you think will make
- 1:15:19it to the games?
- 1:15:20Because as we got closer,
- 1:15:21our choices narrowed to those eligible.
- 1:15:27So, but I think that,
- 1:15:30I think the spin poll is
- 1:15:32awesome and gives a ranking, um,
- 1:15:35that's more accurate than
- 1:15:36the world rankings.
- 1:15:39Um, it doesn't need to be a fancy formula.
- 1:15:46I mean, college football is used to, uh,
- 1:15:48a media poll forever.
- 1:15:51They still use it today.
- 1:15:53College football, college basketball, um,
- 1:15:58But that way you could say, well,
- 1:16:02I'm the eighth ranked
- 1:16:03person in the world or I'm the... I mean,
- 1:16:08I feel like that's just the
- 1:16:09leaderboard though.
- 1:16:13There are people that are
- 1:16:14voting that it's just
- 1:16:15opinion base and just who
- 1:16:17they know better.
- 1:16:18And sometimes they're
- 1:16:18putting people that they
- 1:16:19don't know as well.
- 1:16:20So you would need to maybe
- 1:16:22change up and have... I
- 1:16:26don't know if you have different people,
- 1:16:28but
- 1:16:30I do see what Patrick is
- 1:16:31saying in terms of there
- 1:16:32are a lot of biases in certain.
- 1:16:35But that is an argument in
- 1:16:36college football for a hundred years.
- 1:16:38Yeah.
- 1:16:40Right.
- 1:16:40You just know that it exists.
- 1:16:43I complain all the time that
- 1:16:44Penn State gets knocked.
- 1:16:46They had a bye week and lost
- 1:16:47a place in the ranking and
- 1:16:49they couldn't win or lose that week.
- 1:16:51And yet they still lost a
- 1:16:52spot in the ranking.
- 1:16:54I bitch about the opinions all the time.
- 1:16:57it's better than well they
- 1:17:00went team last year so none
- 1:17:01nothing they did even
- 1:17:02counts or like those are
- 1:17:04just stupid rules to this
- 1:17:07world ranking formula um so
- 1:17:15yeah it has biases but it's
- 1:17:16better than the thing they
- 1:17:17put together for a world
- 1:17:19ranking but theirs is objective
- 1:17:26Like, it's just like,
- 1:17:26this is your openness.
- 1:17:27Like there's nothing that you can like,
- 1:17:28it's, there's no,
- 1:17:30there's no opinion base.
- 1:17:31It's just factual.
- 1:17:33So I don't mind that either.
- 1:17:35Right.
- 1:17:37I think there should be
- 1:17:38certain competitions that
- 1:17:39you can accumulate points
- 1:17:40and it goes into this world.
- 1:17:42These are the competitions
- 1:17:43that count towards worldwide rankings.
- 1:17:45Sure,
- 1:17:46but you can't make the games count
- 1:17:48thirty times because
- 1:17:49there's people that aren't
- 1:17:50getting in who are fitter
- 1:17:52than the fortieth person
- 1:17:53that got in and deserve to
- 1:17:55be ahead of them on this ranking.
- 1:17:57It just should be one point
- 1:17:58just like everything else.
- 1:18:01I still think there's an
- 1:18:03increase in the value there
- 1:18:04versus some of the other ones for sure,
- 1:18:07but maybe not as much.
- 1:18:09So John Young is poking the
- 1:18:10bear on a bad night for me.
- 1:18:13Me and friend are usually
- 1:18:15within three to five people
- 1:18:17in literally everything.
- 1:18:17He likes Europe more than I
- 1:18:19like America more,
- 1:18:21but it's better than
- 1:18:21picking Saxon to win.
- 1:18:23I never freaking pick Saxon to win.
- 1:18:27I said he would have a good semifinal.
- 1:18:29That was it.
- 1:18:36my,
- 1:18:36my picks for are usually pretty good
- 1:18:38for the spin pole.
- 1:18:39I would say that Lex and I's
- 1:18:42picks are often very good as well.
- 1:18:48Pretty accurate.
- 1:18:52Um, but yeah, uh,
- 1:18:59I, so anyway,
- 1:19:00I do think there should be a
- 1:19:01world ranking and if you
- 1:19:02want to come up with a formula,
- 1:19:03I'm fine with it.
- 1:19:05But just because Annie had a
- 1:19:06baby last year,
- 1:19:07doesn't mean she lost all
- 1:19:08of her fitness and doesn't belong in it.
- 1:19:11Like there's gotta be a way
- 1:19:12to factor those people in.
- 1:19:15That's all.
- 1:19:18Um, or because Noah went team,
- 1:19:22he lost all his fitness and
- 1:19:24he's not one of the fifty
- 1:19:25fittest people in the world.
- 1:19:28Because Noah is still one of
- 1:19:29the fifty fittest people in the world.
- 1:19:34That's all.
- 1:19:36So anyway, I'm off that soapbox.
- 1:19:40So we've come to the
- 1:19:41conclusion that really we
- 1:19:43don't think there's anybody
- 1:19:44out there that could really
- 1:19:45have a competing league to
- 1:19:47go up against CrossFit at this point.
- 1:19:50One, we're way too late in the season.
- 1:19:53If you're starting from scratch,
- 1:19:54you need to get your shit together quick.
- 1:19:59yeah I mean I feel like
- 1:20:00you'd have to piggyback off
- 1:20:01of the game season use the
- 1:20:03open but then you're
- 1:20:06shooting yourself in the
- 1:20:07foot with a qualifier entry
- 1:20:09fees yeah man there's so
- 1:20:20many comments coming in I
- 1:20:21can't hardly even keep up with them um
- 1:20:28No, we should not include Rich.
- 1:20:30If you're retired, you're retired.
- 1:20:33If he's going to go bike, he can go bike.
- 1:20:37I get what he's saying
- 1:20:39because I do feel like it's hard.
- 1:20:41Do we think Noah's super fit?
- 1:20:42Yeah,
- 1:20:42but I feel like if you aren't going
- 1:20:44to do individual,
- 1:20:44it's even tough to truly rank you.
- 1:20:49If you've moved on to team... Yeah.
- 1:20:58It just seems so last minute
- 1:21:00that we're getting the information.
- 1:21:02Right.
- 1:21:03Yeah.
- 1:21:03So if we found out Noah was
- 1:21:04going to come back into
- 1:21:06individual this year.
- 1:21:09He shouldn't start at a
- 1:21:10hundred and fiftieth.
- 1:21:12Agree.
- 1:21:13If he decides he's going individual.
- 1:21:15Right.
- 1:21:18And again, I'm okay with the formula,
- 1:21:20but just don't ignore some
- 1:21:22of the obvious things.
- 1:21:23Yes.
- 1:21:24That's all.
- 1:21:25Yeah.
- 1:21:33Well, I think that's it for tonight.
- 1:21:35That's enough.
- 1:21:36I need to go cry in my chocolate milk.
- 1:21:40Watch the reruns of the Hail Mary.
- 1:21:45And you know, because I'm a Bears fan,
- 1:21:47you know the minute I turn on YouTube,
- 1:21:49it's going to be every
- 1:21:51YouTube video about the end of that game.
- 1:21:54That's what's going to come
- 1:21:55up in my algorithm.
- 1:21:57for the next forty eight
- 1:21:59hours man three seconds one
- 1:22:07throw anyway alright guys
- 1:22:15don't forget to like and
- 1:22:16subscribe to the channel um
- 1:22:19and man tomorrow is going
- 1:22:21to be a fun episode of the
- 1:22:23behind the scenes of masters
- 1:22:25CrossFit Games.
- 1:22:27If you missed the trailer earlier,
- 1:22:29I'll put it out on Instagram tonight.
- 1:22:33And you can see just little
- 1:22:34clips of the three people that popped,
- 1:22:36plus Will Morad and Jamie
- 1:22:38Latimer and Bronislaw
- 1:22:41Linkwitz and Jason Grubb.
- 1:22:44Bron talking about shaving
- 1:22:45his head to be faster on the run.
- 1:22:48And then it didn't work.
- 1:22:52That still makes me laugh
- 1:22:53every time I hear it.
- 1:22:56All those clips are much
- 1:22:58more extended in the behind the scenes.
- 1:23:02And I think it's probably
- 1:23:03the best episode so far.
- 1:23:06So with that, guys,
- 1:23:08make sure you check that
- 1:23:09out tomorrow at twelve thirty.
- 1:23:10I'll be in the chat as it goes live.
- 1:23:13If you want to comment on
- 1:23:13anything and kind of chat about that.
- 1:23:16Anything else that you think
- 1:23:17we need to know about world
- 1:23:18rankings or a new CrossFit game season?
- 1:23:20Throw that in the comments.
- 1:23:22And with that,
- 1:23:23we will see everybody next time on.
- 1:23:26Sunday, Sunday,
- 1:23:27Sunday night CrossFit talk.